ATHENS — Georgia’s John Jenkins swears he doesn’t know if he has an insurance policy on himself against career-ending injury. But the projected NFL draft first-rounder told reporters Tuesday he planned to check on it this week.
Playing Georgia Southern will do that a defensive lineman. The Eagles, who play the Bulldogs Saturday at 1:30 p.m. at Sanford Stadium, run the exact same triple-option offense that Georgia Tech runs to such great effect. Their head coach, Jeff Monken, has been with Tech coach Paul Johnson since they were running the “spread option” together at Georgia Southern back in 1997. And an integral part of that system is the cut block.
So with their SEC Championship goals on hold for now, the Bulldogs will get two weeks worth of being blocked at the knees. Preparations started with a rare full-pads practice Monday night and coach Mark Richt said Tuesday they might practice in full pads all week. All of it is to prepare for array of cuts and chops they will experience.
“I really don’t like that type of offense where they just chop your knees and they grab your leg and roll up on you and hold your leg,” said Jenkins, Georgia’s 6-foot-3, 358-pound, all-star noseguard. “That’s no fun. I think it’s cheating. . . . I can’t knock what they do. They do it legally. But it shouldn’t be legal.”
Or, as senior cornerback Sanders Commings so eloquently put it: “It sucks, to be honest.”
Cut-blocking and Southern’s triple-option dominated Tuesday’s discussions at Georgia’s weekly news conference. So give this to the Eagles (8-2, 6-2 SoCon): They’re clearly in the Bulldogs’ heads.
Richt was asked how having to feast on two weeks worth of option might adversely affect the Bulldogs, who will be facing nothing of the sort when they play in the SEC title game on Dec. 1.
“We’ve just got to worry about that when the time comes,” he said. “We can’t do anything other than defend who we’re going to play. So that’s what we’re doing. when that’s through, we’ll change gears again. . . . It will be vastly different, no doubt about that. But if we don’t focus on it now we’ll get embarrassed badly.”
Last year, Georgia lost defensive end DeAngelo Tyson to an ankle injury due to a cut block against Georgia Tech. Richt was asked if leg injuries were a bigger concern over the next two weeks.
“I think if you play aggressively and we do a good job of simulating it throughout this week and next week, we’ll be fine,” he said. “The thing of it is, down linemen get cut all year long. It’s not that different as much as it is for the guys on the perimeter. It is somewhat different; there’s probably more of it. But they do get cut all the time.”
Not like this, Jenkins contends.
“You get it, but you don’t get it often,” he said. “And this team has perfected the art of cutting. I mean, look, they chopped Alabama in half last year. . . . It’s one thing if you’re in high school. At the college level, that’s people’s livelihood. It’s a different way to look at it when you’re toying with people’s livelihoods. I’ve read stories about people getting cut the wrong way and they no longer can play football. They’re using football to feed their family, so it’s kind strange and different.
Here’s some other comments from Georgia coaches and players on Tuesday:
GEORGIA COACH MARK RICHT
Opening Statement . . .
“We’re playing Georgia Southern this week, and we normally play them about every four years. That’s been the routine. Every time they show up I kind of wish we didn’t set it up. They’re just a very good football team – one that causes all kinds of problems for us, especially defensively to try to defend their running game and their offensive team. They mostly run the ball. When they do throw it they average about 22 yards a completion, so they’re very effective when they do throw it. They’re a running football team. They average over 400 yards a game rushing. They actually had 529 yards rushing last week, so they’re just very good at what they do. Up front, both lines are not the biggest guys that we would normally run up against, but they are very athletic. They are perfect for what they do. They do a lot of zone blocking, but they’ll get to the second level and work on the cut blocks. They do a lot of speed sweeps, and they need a lot of guys who can run and hit, and they have a bunch of those. They do just a great job overall.
“Georgia Southern is led by Coach Jeff Monken, who has done a super job. They have the third-best winning percentage in the history of college football behind Michigan and Notre Dame. They’re used to winning, and I’ve been saying it all along: when you play teams that are used to winning, they are very difficult to beat. They show up with a great plan, they have tremendous habits, and they’re used to winning. They’re coming here to win the game. I know that’s their plan. I’ve actually looked at some of their comments from the last ballgame, and what they are thinking about coming into this game. You could tell they’ve got a mind to come and upset Georgia, so we know we have a great challenge ahead. It’s good to be back home between the hedges, and we’re looking forward to seeing our fan base at the Dawg Walk. We’ll be ready to play.”
On Georgia’s defensive front . . .
“I think it takes a total team effort for your defensive line to look good as far as your defensive effort. If everybody is playing their gap responsibilities like they’re supposed to – I’m not talking about just down linemen; I’m talking about linebackers, safeties fitting into the right spot – I think it helps the D-line. The D-line could be playing pretty well and if other guys are missing gap responsibilities, some big runs will pop. It’s just like offensive linemen. You kind of get blamed every time there is a sack, but a lot of times it’s a back not blocking somebody or a quarterback holding the ball too long or even a guy running the wrong route and the quarterback holds the ball because of it. I think it takes everybody to make everybody else look good. They are big and physical, and they do usually eat up a couple of blocks, especially the two big men inside. Garrison Smith has been very strong at the point, so I think it all works together. I think they’re doing pretty much what they’ve been doing all year long.”
On preparing for Georgia Southern and Georgia Tech prior to the SEC Championship…
“We just have to worry about that when the time comes. We can’t do anything other than defend who we are going to play. So that’s what we’re doing. When that’s through, we’ll have to change gears again certainly as far as the mentality. Some of the schemes and responsibilities will be vastly different, there’s no doubt about that. If we don’t focus on this we’ll get embarrassed badly.”
On whether it’s an advantage to play Georgia Southern before Georgia Tech…
“A lot of time it’s a matter of making it fit everybody’s schedule. We had the open date there, and we have to make sure it fits Georgia Southern’s schedule as well, and it just ended up working out that that’s where it got placed. I think if you’re going to play that type of offense twice in a season it’s probably better to do it back-to-back rather than in game four and game nine. You kind of go back and forth on a certain mentality, and if we can maintain the same mentality for two weeks in a row instead of having to go back and forth, it’s probably not a bad thing, but we’ll see how the results end up.”
On the play of linebacker Michael Gilliard thus far…
“Michael has really grown all throughout his career. I think he’s gotten better every single year. I think he’s taking on the responsibility of being a good senior leader. His body year by year has gotten a little bit bigger, a little bit stronger, and a little bit faster. He certainly has a great knowledge of what we’re trying to do, and he plays physical. He takes on blocks well, he doesn’t jump around things, and he understands the gap responsibilities and plays them well. I think he’s doing a very nice job for us.”
On Gilliard making adjustments throughout the season . . .
“I think everybody understands that whatever role you have, you have to play it well, and you have to play it with the right type of attitude. I just see a bunch of guys that are enjoying playing defense right now and enjoying the success that we’ve had lately. Michael’s certainly adjusted very well.”
On potential injuries that could occur to the defensive line as a result of facing triple-option offenses . . .
“I think if you play aggressively and we do a good job of simulating it throughout this week and next week, I think we’ll be fine. The thing of it is, down linemen get cut all year long. It’s not that different as much as it is for the guys on the perimeter. It is somewhat different, and I’m not going to say that it’s not, but there’s probably more of it, but they do get cut. There are times when people are trying to run a zone play and one guy is engaged on the nose guard and the other guy is trying to cut him off. Or even sometimes a guard is trying to get up to a linebacker, but the responsibility of the nose guard is not to let him get there, but the center behind that guard has the job to cut the guy off. The goal sometimes is to cut the nose guard with the center. A lot of times offenses aren’t even trying to have a guy high and a guy low, but it just happens. That happens to those guys more than you think, all throughout the year.”
On Tavarres King’s importance to the team . . .
“We love TK and what he’s been doing on the field and off the field. It’s just the type of person he is and the type of leader that he’s been. We think the world of TK, and I’m very confident that he’ll end up getting drafted and have a good pro career. He’s been very crucial, and we’ve counted on him. That flanker position, we count on that guy to make some big plays for us and he has. We expect him to be able to get deep, we expect him to be able to stretch the defense, and he’s just done a very good job of that. I’m proud of him.”
On Georgia Tech being able to see how Georgia defends against Georgia Southern this week…
“I’m not worried about Tech right now. We can talk about that next week. We know obviously that these teams are similar in their offensive styles, but all we can do is line up and defend whomever we’re playing. That’s all I’m worried about right now.”
On injured linebacker Chase Vasser…
“Chase’s situation is that he’s still not coming around with the shoulder injury. We’ll just see kind of see where it goes. He’s just not healthy right now.”
On the progress of freshmen kickers Collin Barber and Marshall Morgan…
“It’s a tough job to be a true freshman. I think when you’re being recruited, you’re so excited thinking, ‘Oh, I’m going to get to play. I’m going to be playing in the SEC and I have a chance to start as a freshman.’ It’s really exciting to think about it when you’re being recruited and you’re signing and you’re preparing all summer long. Then you get in the games and you realize how crucial some of these situations are, and if you struggle, (you realize) how many people have an opinion on you. It’s different for those guys I’m sure from anything they’ve ever experienced. So they just need to know that you believe in them. They need to know that you think that they’ve got what it takes, and they do. Both of those guys, I think, are very talented. The more that they smooth out, the more that we’re going to see what they really can do on a consistent basis. They care what people think and what coach thinks, and they should care what their coaches think. They should care what people think, too, but they can’t get too concerned about that. They just have to focus on their job and block everything out. That’s not easy to do, but that’s what they’ve got to do. I think they’re getting better at that.”
On the importance of Todd Gurley and Keith Marshall’s coming through at tailback this season . . .
“It’s huge. I’ve got faith in Ken Malcome. I thought Ken was really coming on, and he is. He’s a good player and he’s helping us win, no doubt. But Keith and Todd are very talented guys obviously, and they’re both very mature guys. They both kind of fed off each other in a very positive way, as roommates and as friends from high school. They had this vision, like we’ve talked about, of working together and playing together and maybe taking a little bit of pressure off of each other. Both of them are having supreme true freshman seasons, so it’s been huge. It’s been a big part of our ability to run the ball the way that we’ve run it, and I think we’re only going to get better at it. We don’t have a senior lineman in the bunch. We only have Tavarres King and Marlon Brown as the only two seniors on the offensive football team, so hopefully we’ll get better at it as time goes on.”
On not getting distracted with the current BCS race . . .
“I don’t worry about it. I don’t because I can’t control it. If you worry about stuff you can’t control, you’re really wasting your time and you’re going to make yourself crazy a little bit, so I can’t control it. I can only control what we do on a weekly basis. It’s just like when we lost the first game to South Carolina. Once we lost it, we couldn’t do anything other than control trying to win and hope something good happened, but we weren’t going crazy about it. Of course it happened pretty fast this particular year. Last year it took a long time, but it’s the motivation of still having your goals out in front of you. When it’s mathematically possible to win the East, there’s still hope, so you keep grinding and trying to reach your goal. If it came a time where we could not possibly win the East, then it takes a little esteem out of you and we would have had to find ways to motivate in new ways to reach our goals.”
TAILBACK KEITH MARSHALL
On increased confidence as the season goes on . . .
“I feel more confident now, for sure. I’m more confident in the playbook. I know my assignments, I can play more freely, and I’m not as worried about making sure I’m doing everything right.”
On his and Todd Gurley’s performance as freshmen . . .
“We feel great about [our season], but the bigger picture is the team. I think we complement each other well. It’s kind of cool (to be called ‘Gurshall’) to be compared to the greatest ever. It’s cool.”
On the differences between high school and college football . . .
“It’s definitely different. I’m not running as much or taking as much of a beating as I did in high school.”
QUARTERBACK AARON MURRAY
On moving into top-5 in SEC in career touchdown passes…
“I’m just blessed to be on this team, and to have Coach (Mike) Bobo allowing me to show off my talents. I’m lucky to have my receiving corps, my running backs, the linemen – it makes my job easy.”
On Gurley and Marshall . . .
“We want to be balanced, they give us balance. They can run the ball, eat up the clock, make big runs. It’s unbelievable. It feels like the Oregon offense sometimes, how they break through with those big 40, 50, 60, 70-yard touchdown runs.”
On Georgia Southern’s defense . . .
“They play a pretty straight-up defense. Of course every team has their array of blitzes and packages for third down and things like that, and we’ll have to be ready for it. This will be a big challenge for our offense. Against this type of team, you don’t get a lot of possessions, so we need to make sure when we do get the ball, we give our defense a break, first of all, have good drives and make sure we put points on the board.”
LINEBACKER CHRISTIAN ROBINSON
On facing two triple option offenses in consecutive weeks . . .
“I think it’s a good thing the way this works out. It gives us an opportunity to work on the same thing for two weeks in a row. A big thing for this week is that we’re going to have to knock them back and then stay on your feet and make plays. Obviously we’re going to go against cut blocks so getting to play against it two weeks in a row will allow us to get better at playing against that block.”
On Georgia Southern’s rushing offense . . .
“A lot of people don’t understand that the people that go to Georgia Southern ran this triple option in high school as well, and they’re some of the best guys at executing this style of offense. No body else, that we’re aware of, runs this type of offense except for them and Georgia Tech. They have great athletes; Johnathan Bryant has the speed to take it to the house at anytime. Jerick McKinnon, their quarterback, is good at what he does so we have to be prepared for the best athletes for this type of offense.”
On preparing for the triple option then preparing for a more traditional offense . . .
“It’s difficult, but at the same time it still helps you with the fundamentals of football. A lot of the time defending this style of offense comes down to the most basic fundamentals of football of just being in position, making tackles, and knocking them back. That’s how you defend this offense and that’s how you win games. It comes down to turnovers and big plays. You just have to be able to stone this offense and get the ball back in your offense’s hands.”
LINEBACKER AMARLO HERRERA
On Georgia Southern’s offense . . .
“They have the players that are the best fit for their style of offense. They have guys that allow them to convert on third down and on fourth down and keep the ball in the offenses hands and keep the clock running.”
On facing two triple option offenses in consecutive weeks . . .
“I think it’s beneficial for us to face two of the same offenses back to back, because it allows us to build off of this week and correct the mistakes that we may make in this game. It allows us to go back and look at the mistakes we may have made and then correct them which allows us to get a step ahead of our opponents because we have more experience of what we need to do better.”
On preparing for the triple option before SEC championship . . .
“You really have to take it one week at a time. We’re going to have to look at, and prepare for these two weeks differently then we’re going to go back and get back to what we usually do against a regular style of offense. It’s not very frustrating, it’s just football. We have to be prepared for anything at anytime and be ready to go against different styles, so we just have to play fast and make fast decisions.”
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the_athenian
November 13th, 2012
4:01 pm
I wish we were playing Georgia Tech first so we could be better prepared for Southern.
Honey Badger Has the Munchies
November 13th, 2012
4:02 pm
FIRST
Honey Badger Has the Munchies
November 13th, 2012
4:03 pm
Dang it!
AJC Editor
November 13th, 2012
4:15 pm
GSU? Oh, you meant Georgia Southern aka “GS.”
Dawglasville
November 13th, 2012
4:19 pm
There is no way to start putting anything in for Bama now. One week to preparte for Southern. One week for Tech. One week for Bama and let the chips fall.
Ed
November 13th, 2012
4:22 pm
I don’t get the part about how two weeks of defending the option will negatively impact Georgia’s defense when they play Alabama and its pro-style offense. It’s not like we haven’t been playing more traditional offenses all year long, and practicing against a pro-style offense every day since practice started.
If anything, I would think it would be a big relief and a big confidence boost to face a non-triple option team after two weeks of defending against that hell.
dawgfan
November 13th, 2012
4:24 pm
While I do agree that cut blocking should (and probably will become) be illegal, right now it is. The propensity for injury is higher, but part of it’s effectiveness is defensive linemen get sick of it and don’t go as hard to avoid injury. I just hope that Dawgs don’t quit on it and get embarrassed by the option. Georgia has handled it well the last few years, so I still think Georgia should be fine. Get through this week and next, then focus on Bama. Go Dawgs.
Ed
November 13th, 2012
4:24 pm
Is there any evidence that defensive players are more likely to get injured against the triple option? If so then Tech’s offense must have amassed an impressive body count in the last 5 seasons, but if they have I haven’t heard about it.
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AltamahaDawg
November 13th, 2012
4:30 pm
I actually saw a post some weeks back from a tech fan who declared that UGA playing GSU would benefit Paul Johnson more than our coaches.
Because then HE gets to see how we would defend the triple option. (Because appearantly he doesn’t know how teams defend him every week for he past 2 decades)
Hopefully not a tech fan who will be designing anything that people need to not fall on thier heads.
Josh Nesbitt
November 13th, 2012
4:37 pm
Jenkins knows all too well about how to twist ankles
Paddy
November 13th, 2012
4:41 pm
Ed………you are right. My guess the percentage of injuries from regular blocking patterns causes more injuries than cut locks. It is not the cut block that causes injury, it is the chop block that does the damage. And no one player can chop block. Thats why you rarely see the penelty called.
It (cut blocking) is a legal part of the game...
November 13th, 2012
4:44 pm
…get over it an move on to beating whatever comes your way, and man up, just as they did against Vandy and UF…
Paddy
November 13th, 2012
4:54 pm
Chip……….I thought Tyson’s injury was from a vicious clip not a cut block? But that is what I remember seeing, but I may be wrong on my rememberng of the play.
G-Dawg
November 13th, 2012
5:01 pm
If they cut block..just fall on top of them with a knee or elbow in their lower back when they take your legs out.
Bulldogs for Muschamp Lifetime Contract
November 13th, 2012
5:04 pm
If they cut block and injure one of our players like last year, I hope we run a toss sweep toward the Tech sideline with 2 OL and Lynch leading the way and run out of bounds and break Coach Fish Fry in half.
AltamahaDawg
November 13th, 2012
5:06 pm
Better yet, just don’t overcommit, and avoid the block altogether.
GTBob
November 13th, 2012
5:14 pm
Awe, are UGA players afraid of getting hurt? Football can be a rough sport sometimes.
just sayin
November 13th, 2012
5:15 pm
cut blocking is dirty and dangerous. If a player does this, he should immediately be thrown out of the game and the team penalized. Ga Southern got this practice from Paul Johnson, a known cut block teacher. The last two years this dirty practice ended the season for 2 UGA players when they played Ga Tech. Richt should be in the ear of the officiating crew big time to watch for this practice.
Delbert D.
November 13th, 2012
5:18 pm
It’s interesting to look at the stats for the Alabama-Georgia Southern game last November 19. Alabama led 24-14 at the half and won 45-21 with starters playing the entire game. Alabama played 27 players in addition to the 22 starters (against LSU in 2011, they played 29 players in addition to the starters.) Alabama scored the final TD on an AJ McCarron to Brad Smelley with 44 seconds left in the game.
Georgia Southern gained 303 yards rushing on an average of 7.7 yards per attempt. Dominique Swope gained 153 yards at 8.5 per attempt. 4 other backs had a total of 12 carries at 17.5, 9.6, 8.3 and 7.5 yards per attempt respectively. QB Jaybo Shaw ran for 26 yards on 7 carries.
Alabama gained 272 at 5.6 yards per attempt. Trey Richardson ran for 175 and 2 TDs.
Alabama had long runs of 26 and 22 yards; GSU had runs of 82 (TD run by Swope), 37, 26 and 22.
Shaw of GSU completed 1 of 5 passes, and it was a 39 yard TD. McCarron was 14-19 for 190 yards and 3 TDs.
GSU’s other TD was a 95 yard kickoff return in the 3rd quarter.
Paddy
November 13th, 2012
5:19 pm
G-Dawg……your solution to the cut block sounds like it may bring alot of Dawg penelties. It sure would not stop GS or GT. That is the way they are taught to block for their offense.
Paddy
November 13th, 2012
5:21 pm
just saying………What is CMR going to say to the officals? Watch out for that LEGAL cut block. lol
GTBob
November 13th, 2012
5:22 pm
Richt should be in the ear of the officiating crew big time to watch for this practice.
I am pretty sure the officiating crew will just remind Richt that cut blocking is legal and that he should teach his team how to handle it.
Reebok
November 13th, 2012
5:23 pm
Cut blocking is legal. It’s chop blocking that’s illegal, and that’s where a player is more likely to get hurt.
Dawg
November 13th, 2012
5:23 pm
Stay on your assignments and be safr
Paddy
November 13th, 2012
5:26 pm
just saying…….I believe it was Erk Russell that taught the cut block to CPJ. It was the Ham Bone offense that thrieved on the cut block.
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Mike S
November 13th, 2012
5:27 pm
just sayin….I had heard that UGA had a lot of so called fans that were not very knowledgeable. Did that group elect you their leader and send you to this blog?
DAwg in Sewer
November 13th, 2012
5:31 pm
Bamerss bealkts usess byess 100.
7576DAWG
November 13th, 2012
5:33 pm
I know we can’t avoid Georgia Tech but we can sure as hell not schedule Georgia Southern. If one of our guys get hurt it will be on whoever scheduled them in the first place. If that is McGarity then I hope he will think twice about doing it any more. The risk reward is not there when we could schedule any 2A team to take their place.
Delbert D.
November 13th, 2012
5:41 pm
As Coach Richt said, every team cut blocks. It is legal, it can be effective, and it is taught at every level in football. The “rolling body block” is the first technique I remember from my youth league days many decades ago. Smaller tailbacks very often cut block onrushing linemen and linebackers on passing plays. Keith Marshall in particular did it against South Carolina, as he was outmatched by Clowney and Taylor in the few times that the passes weren’t play action with no fullback. I don’t recall any particular cut blocks by Gurley on pass plays.
Terrell Davis went from 6th round draft pick to NFL and SuperBowl MVP running behind Alex Gibbs’ zone/cut blocking. Warrick Dunn extended his career with the move to Atlanta with Gibbs’ blocking technique.
Flounder
November 13th, 2012
5:42 pm
“It’s a different way to look at it when you’re toying with people’s livelihoods.”
Oh, big John … its just as dangerous to take the field against a 6′-6″ 325 lb crybaby. Get over yourself and accept the fact that there are different strategies to the game.
THE UGA formerly known as RUSS
November 13th, 2012
5:45 pm
Cut block…chop block…..GS…GT….. Beat the stew out of both.
Dennis
November 13th, 2012
5:50 pm
Is Jenkins being paid? With that attitude just sit out the rest of the season and wait on the draft. That is what He looked like He was doing anyway until being called out before the UF game.
ARdawg
November 13th, 2012
5:53 pm
Yeah I believe Tech would have been a better warm up for Georgia Southern. We really need to tweak that scheduling better, ya know?
Jackson
November 13th, 2012
5:56 pm
Just run the ball mixed with short passes for some time-consuming, long drives to keep their offense off of the field.
spider
November 13th, 2012
5:57 pm
did that uga player say it was his livliholld and paid for his food for his family? how much is UGA paying their players??
ugagers are pansies
November 13th, 2012
6:15 pm
of course we all knew that.
cut blocking or what is called ‘zone blocking’ in the nfl is practiced by all nfl teams but “some teams base their entire offense on it, including the NFL’s Washington
Redskins, Indianapolis Colts, Oakland Raiders, Houston Texans, Seattle Seahawks, Kansas City Chiefs and Green Bay Packers”
wha wha wha wha wha. if it was so bad somebody would have done an injury study on it and it would be banned. it hasnt and it aint. so dwags stop your whining already. you sound like a bunch of republicans. oh waite… you prob are. wahhhh.
“Bulldogs for Muschamp Lifetime Contract
November 13th, 2012
5:04 pm
If they cut block and injure one of our players like last year, I hope we run a toss sweep toward the Tech sideline with 2 OL and Lynch leading the way and run out of bounds and break Coach Fish Fry in half.”
you say you ‘hope’ they do it. if past behavior is a precursor for future behavior i fully expect dwag players to continue with the same classless behavior that their fans exhibit.
ill let somebody else remunerate all the times dwag players have done something classless. didnt a few of you dwags try and jaw on cpj a few years back and your yellow belly of a coach gave them a pat on the behind as punishment.
hate to tell ya dwags but your reputation for classless behavior from your fans, players and coaching staff proceeds you.
Honey Badger Has the Munchies
November 13th, 2012
6:24 pm
These blogs seem to satrt out on a good note, people actually discussing football in an intelligent and good spirited manner. And then it turns RETARDED.
Come on guys….
Honey Badger Has the Munchies
November 13th, 2012
6:29 pm
Dennis….good point!
Delbert D.
November 13th, 2012
6:32 pm
Good news: The game is on Channel 2 here in Atlanta on Saturday at 1:30. No other games of interest in the early time slot.
joe jenkins
November 13th, 2012
6:34 pm
GT and GSU are not man enough to block us straight up….thats why they have to resort to cheap and childish under cutting blocking…..Still loving the hit c-rob put on tre mason….lets hope jarvis jones takes out the gsu qb
home&home
November 13th, 2012
6:35 pm
Georgia will beat both of these teams but it won’t be easy in either game. Our looking for the NFL lineman are going to be more worried about cut blocks than making tackles.
As an aside, is there a fan base in the universe more unaware of their place in college football than Georgia Southern? 6 national championships in 1-AA is great but who really cares? I think they honestly think they could compete for the ACC championship next year if they just had 85 guys on scholarship.
joe jenkins
November 13th, 2012
6:41 pm
@flounder…..hey fish…I’m sure jenkins is hungry and would want to eat some fish!!! also nerd your team sucks…get ready to get destroyed again
Delbert D.
November 13th, 2012
6:46 pm
I for one watch the FCS playoffs. Looks like GSU will get in at #6 currently, but Wofford and Appalachian State need to get bids, too. The playoffs expand to 24 teams next season. To hear the FBS presidents and commissioners talk, that must be heresy, or immoral.
George Stein
November 13th, 2012
6:48 pm
Interesting that defenders never think they shouldn’t be allowed to tackle below the waist.
MiamiDawg
November 13th, 2012
6:48 pm
If the Dawgs hit them hard enough earlly and often, chances are they will forget their mommas name much less think about cheap shots. GaSo and tech, both are not at the Dawg’s level.
Delbert D.
November 13th, 2012
6:57 pm
The blocking rules that went into effect this year, quotes from footballscoop.com
Big Ten coordinator of officials Bill Carollo explained, “We’ve basically gone to low blocks [cut blocks] are illegal now with these exceptions: Linemen on the line of scrimmage, they can cut block. Backs in the backfield who are stationary and between the tackles, they can cut low. Not only do we put the restriction on the low blocks on the offense, we’re now putting them on the defense.”
“Once the ball leaves the tackle box, that 6 [yards] by 10 area that’s defined, then the defense can’t cut block. So, it’s a huge learning curve for the coaches to teach the players and equally a huge learning curve for the officials.”
On Thursday, Wisconsin head coach Bret Bielema said, “In all of my years as a head coach, we’ve had more meeting with officials than at any other point. I think the chop rules, offensively and defensively, will significantly affect the game.”
Bielema added, “A lot of it is determined where you are on the field, where you start. For instance, a lot of times we start with a tight end in a hip position to the right, we’ll move him over to the other side. He’s never had any restrictions on if he can go low, cut, or if he can go back across the formation. It’s totally changed. It’s really going to change the game, especially for a team like Wisconsin.”
Jet
November 13th, 2012
7:13 pm
What a crock. Defensive players don’t like it because they have to use their hands to defend the block instead of getting them on the opposing blockers pads. It’s used in every level of football including the NFL. No one complained about it being illegal or dirty when Erk Russell was head coach at Georgia Southern, if they did he would have some choice words in practice about the upcoming opponent. Grow up, it’s a big boys game.
Russell
November 13th, 2012
7:20 pm
Messin with people’s livelihood??? Just how much are the Dwags paying Mr. Jenkins to play fooball?
No. 1 Braves Fan
November 13th, 2012
7:20 pm
Jenkins seems to talk out of both sides of his mouth. He said cut blocking is “cheating”. Next he said “its legal” Then he said “it should be illegal.” In between these quotes ” you can`t fault them”. What a rambling bunch of garbage. Take the day off if you don`t want to play.
No. 1 Braves Fan
November 13th, 2012
7:23 pm
Oh, Joe Jenkins, forgot to remind you to get that insurance policy if you decide to play.
What a panny-waist.
Woofy One
November 13th, 2012
7:25 pm
Just cut block them back.
Rick James
November 13th, 2012
7:30 pm
@GTBob
Awe, are UGA players afraid of getting hurt? Football can be a rough sport sometimes.
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Yes Bob they are concerned about getting injured.Unlike Tech Georgia has as many as nine NFL draft choices on defense.Its not just getting hurt thats at stake its millions of dollars.But of course your dislike(envy)for Georgia wont allow you to understand that.
Delbert D.
November 13th, 2012
7:44 pm
Gurley made a good point about not having to carry the ball as much as he did in high school, saving wear and tear. Kenjon Barner of Oregon got those 321 rushing yards on 38 carries, plus a couple of receptions for 26 yards. He was 66 yards on 20 carries the next week against Cal. Probably still sore. The Ducks went heavy on the pass in that game with 7 TDs and 395 yards.
SauteeDawg
November 13th, 2012
7:49 pm
I wouldn’t say teams have more injuries by facing Ga. Tech and the triple option, however Ga. Tech does lead the nation every season in penalties for chop blocking which is a penalty.
Delbert D.
November 13th, 2012
7:57 pm
I’m probably wrong, but I recall only 2 chop block penalties against Tech this season. There have been some of the new “illegal block” 10 yard penalties for low blocks going in the wrong direction or outside the 6 x 10 blocking zone. Some low blocks have been called under the new rule, on punt and kick returns, in games I’ve seen on TV for several teams.
Crimson Clyde
November 13th, 2012
7:59 pm
Homeandhome, if you want to see a delusional fan, why don’t you look in the mirror?
Honest to God, UGA has the most under-achieving major college program in the nation. The Dawgs have a great recruiting base, tremendous facilities, a huge warchest, and an army of (literally) rabid fans.
And yet, despite all of those advantages, y’all haven’t sniffed a national championship since Herschel still had one personality.
UGA does, however, have some of the most obnoxious fans in the country. Congratulations.
Instead of begrudging Georgia Southern its little kingdom, why don’t you ask Saint Mark Richt why he can’t why it all with a roster full of future NFL players?
Anyway, the Bama Nation looks forward to seeing UGA in the SabanDome in a few weeks. We’ll show you what a big boy program REALLY looks like.
Gorilla Biscuit
November 13th, 2012
7:59 pm
If you cut block me, you better not leave any fingers sticking out of the pile.
Dawg89
November 13th, 2012
8:05 pm
Cut blocking helps neutralize speed and size differences. Every kid that has played O-line in youth football has been taught the cut block. If a kid isn’t fast enough or strong enough to match up on the defensive player, then he has to cut or get cussed out by the coach for getting beat. GSU and GT cut block because they can’t match up with more physical teams.
George Stein
November 13th, 2012
8:07 pm
Do you have proof of that, SauteeDawg?
A. Bishop
November 13th, 2012
8:08 pm
Hey Nerds, our linemen are worried about getting injured because unlike your second rate “athletes”, ours has a future in the NFL while yours will be picking trash up off the shoulder of I-75.
Delbert D.
November 13th, 2012
8:11 pm
Dawg89 – That is true, as 330 pound O-linemen typically aren’t agile enough for that offense. That (my statement) is also true for the professional teams that employ cut blocking extensively. Alex Gibbs once said that he would never use higher than a 3rd round draft pick on an offensive lineman.
MadDog
November 13th, 2012
8:13 pm
I can’t believe what I’m reading. Are you freakin kidding me???!!! I’m afraid to get hurt, It sucks, My livelihood is in danger… is this football or what? A little unconventional football is not a bad thing. Cut block is effective, chop block is dangerous. Georgia will win the game but why would you seriously preface the game with this crap. The way you get hurt is worrying about this stuff. Hope Ga South has a good showing. They don’t get enough credit for what they’ve accomplished in their division (1-AA/FCS). It’s all relative.
MadDog
November 13th, 2012
8:20 pm
Take this series for what it is. A good game against some good programs in different divisions. A lot of players know each other and its a good atmosphere. Proud to have Ga South Football in the state.
Delbert D.
November 13th, 2012
8:23 pm
The only thing I really take issue with is “then he has to cut or get cussed out by the coach for getting beat”. That may be the case in some high school situation, but as a rule, the line plays as a unit where they know what the other linemen are going to be doing; for example, blocking down on trap plays (not to be confused with blocking low) to double-team one D-lineman and allow the other to fall into the trap of the pulling guard resulting in a wide-open hole. When I played in high school, one season we used low blocking on virtually all running plays, and these were crab block techniques where both hands and both feet keep moving on the ground, steering the defender with head and shoulders at the knees.
come on
November 13th, 2012
8:27 pm
cut blocks are not illegal. they are used at every level of football. the pros use cut blocks as well. the cut is an effective way to open the run to the outside. chop blocks are illegal. the chop is when a lineman is engaged in a block high and another comes and hits him low or chops him in half. the cut block is no more dangerous or illegal than when a defensive back launches like a guided missile at another players knees to make a tackle. uga fans are just whining about nothing and i have seen georgia players use the cut on the run before just watch a run play you will see it. the cut is just part of the game.
Dawg89
November 13th, 2012
8:45 pm
Cuts are legal, no doubt about it. Dawgs just need to get ready to play. I think it is unfortunate to play two option teams right before the SEC championship game. I know the part line is “one game at time”. But, I hope that Grantham is multi-tasking and delegating some this week. I think they would be nuts not to look at bama tape this week.
Delbert D.
November 13th, 2012
8:49 pm
This season, lead blockers such as backs or WRs in motion can block low outside the 6 by 10 foot zone only if they are headed toward the sideline in the direction of the ball. They can’t block low when turned back inside.
Delbert D.
November 13th, 2012
8:52 pm
Dawg89 – I doubt that Coach Grantham is going to show much on defense beyond vanilla, assignment football against Georgia Southern. I imagine that coach Johnson is going to look at every tweak of coverage.
Dawg89
November 13th, 2012
9:05 pm
I hope CTG is sneaking some looks at bama this week. No need for fancy blitzes and zone coverages for GSU.
Bob
November 13th, 2012
9:07 pm
Got a solution. Greg McGarity, stop scheduling them. And btw, stop scheduling the Buffalos and FAUs of the world while you are at it.
wes
November 13th, 2012
9:44 pm
The NCAA should take notice of this article and what that 358 lb gorilla had to say about the rules.
LOL
Pete Van Weird
November 13th, 2012
9:47 pm
Okay…here we go again….there is a difference between a chop block and a cut block…..but once again your esteemed scribes, who have trouble spelling (and that includes the upper echelon–Schultz and Bark Madley) have, in the interest of sensationalism, neglected to inform. End result: knee-jerk fans are all about “yeah, we gonna murdalize dem bums cheatin on blocks rumble mumble stumble.” Whereforeartthou, Furman Bisher? Y’know, quality in reporting could be as important as quantity.
Pete Van Weird
November 13th, 2012
9:51 pm
….got it….thank you,
come on
Joe
November 13th, 2012
10:28 pm
Big John did not have much trouble with Gtu’s high school sized OL last year-they never blocked him the entire game, he simply dominated.
DeAngelo Tyson, on the other hand, nearly had his career ended by a blatant cheap shot for which the offender should have been removed from the game.
Cut blocking is not illegal, however, when it is taught to guys who are not physically capable of going head-to-head against the guy on the other side, the lines between what is legal and illegl can get mighty blurry.
Morning Reads 11/14/2012 — Peach Pundit
November 14th, 2012
7:25 am
[...] Speaking of those Georgia Southern Eagles, they play Georgia this weekend. Southern gave Nick Saban’s Alabama team fits last year, and while Georgia will win, it will not be the Auburn beat down Part Deux. Oh, the game starts at Cut Block o’clock. [...]
Morning Reads 11/14/2012 — Peach Pundit | Egypt
November 14th, 2012
8:00 am
[...] Speaking of those Georgia Southern Eagles, they play Georgia this weekend. Southern gave Nick Saban’s Alabama team fits last year, and while Georgia will win, it will not be the Auburn beat down Part Deux. Oh, the game starts at Cut Block o’clock. [...]
Mick Dee
November 14th, 2012
8:33 am
” At the college level, that’s people’s livelihood. ” The UGA players don’t realize the other teams are amateur athletes.
Paddy
November 14th, 2012
8:59 am
Woofy One……..you do realize that our Dawgs also use the cut block from time to time. Wake up guys and watch the game correctly before you post such off the wall comments.
Paddy
November 14th, 2012
9:07 am
Delbert D ……….I believe that GT has been called for only one chop block this season. It ’s a rare penelty called, seing how easy it is to see by the officials. Teams with normal blocking patterns also get called for the chop block. It is not a penelty that is associated with the cut block technique exclusively.
BD2010
November 14th, 2012
9:11 am
Crimson Clyde,
Wow bama fans have room to talk huh? i would agree Georgia has fans that get on everyones nerves, but guess what so does bama. Every team has them. Oh and that big bog program looked mighty silly against Texas AM. 1st year in the SEC and they knock off the “best” team in the country.
Paddy
November 14th, 2012
9:48 am
Sautee Dawg…….GT leads the nation in chop block penalties every year? They have one this year. So they must be tied with many other schools. You just made that stat up!!!! Come on, man!
I love biscuits and gravy
November 14th, 2012
9:52 am
If we would have scheduled a Texas or Oklahoma team instead of Georgia Southern we might be higher in the BCS rankings. I am sure they see Georgia Southern as a “major” team lol.
FYI wasn’t Georgia Southern suppose to move up to 1-A?
Dawg Fud
November 14th, 2012
10:22 am
Lots of whining on this blog, most notably Jenkins. He needed to be called out by Shawn Williams before he got his a– in gear this season.
Just saying…
» Morning Reads 11/14/2012 Marvin Arrington Jr.
November 14th, 2012
10:26 am
[...] Speaking of those Georgia Southern Eagles, they play Georgia this weekend. Southern gave Nick Saban’s Alabama team fits last year, and while Georgia will win, it will not be the Auburn beat down Part Deux. Oh, the game starts at Cut Block o’clock. [...]
Morning Reads 11/14/2012
November 14th, 2012
11:24 am
[...] Speaking of those Georgia Southern Eagles, they play Georgia this weekend. Southern gave Nick Saban’s Alabama team fits last year, and while Georgia will win, it will not be the Auburn beat down Part Deux. Oh, the game starts at Cut Block o’clock. [...]
BD
November 14th, 2012
11:46 am
Marshall’s TD run against Auburn was sprung by a cut block on the Auburn LB by the FB…..cheaters….
Winder
November 14th, 2012
12:14 pm
We cut block every single game and on the majority of plays, just like GT and GSU do. They do it more of course. Tech doesn’t get called for more chop blocks than other teams and injuries against them aren’t any higher. I’m surprised how our guys are talking and I hope it is not in their heads.
If our guys are more powerful and skillful at the line we will neutralize GT’s strategy, just as we did last year. The team that dominates the line of scrimmage tends to win, no matter what the offensive strategy. Glad we have GSU as a tune up.
dddf's
November 14th, 2012
12:15 pm
lot of ignorant whiners on this blog. learn the rules of the game and either play by them or don’t play. simple choice. cut blocks are legal and used by virtually every football team in the country
BD
November 14th, 2012
12:21 pm
Correct winder….hard to overcome physical superiority. As for Jenkins, if he plays to not get hurt, he will get embarrassed. Watch tape, learn to use your hands to shed the cut to the ground and stay on your feet. Keep your head up…..watch tape…..watch other DL’s play off cut blocks. If you whine that you don’t want to play against cuts, then you will get cut—–a week or so into NFL training camp.
Archie
November 14th, 2012
1:10 pm
As they say in professional wrestling, it looks as if the writer might have been trying to generate some “heat” for the Georgia vs. Georgia Southern game. Judging from the reactions, it looks like he suceeded! Georgia Southern will not be “jobbers,” I dare say!
Paddy
November 14th, 2012
1:12 pm
Joe………what are you taling about? How can the lines between legal or illegal cut blocks get blurry? There is no such thing as an illegal cut block. That makes no sense. Players going man on man, as you suggested, CAN’T themselves be called for a chop block. It is impossible by rule! Please, somebody buy my fellow Dawg fans a rule book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no correrlation between any one blocking pattern and a penelty for a chop block. In fact the most obvious situation is when players are pass blocking.
dave
November 14th, 2012
1:13 pm
Bama will destroy uga. No way Saban will lose twice in a month.
berry steve
November 14th, 2012
1:35 pm
Joe et al, listen to Paddy, he seems to have a good handle on the rule.
A. Bishop
November 14th, 2012
3:01 pm
Can’t wait for Nov. 24 to shut these stupid nerds up again. When will you learn that your football program doesn’t matter.
Joe
November 14th, 2012
3:04 pm
Check out the first offensive play of the game, at the 2:03 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-gQBJP67Z8
That play is a direct result of physically weak players being taught to compensate for their inadequecies by diving at the opponent’s legs. It’s horrible, but that is what Paul Johnson coaches.
He is a pansy who never played football, so it’s not shocking that he does not care about injuring other players. Of course, it’s also why his defenses always suck.
Robert Tidwell
November 14th, 2012
3:23 pm
Poor, poor fools! They have put their whole future into playing football for a living, and decided to go to a football factory and avoid all legitimate academic exposure. Jenkins will be on the back of a garbage truck if he is injured. Pool, poor fool!
Joe
November 14th, 2012
3:31 pm
Hey, Robert Tidwell. Joe Hamilton would be driving, but he has that DUI issue, so Joe Burns will take the wheel, JoeHam can ride shotgun and AT Barnes will be on the back with Jenkins, how’s that?
You are the fool. Everyone knows that 95% of Gtu athletes ride the M Train and cheat their asses off with all of the frat boys. Gtu’s problem is that they just are not any good at football, so they blame academics. My solution would be to drop down to 1-AA where you belong.
Paddy
November 14th, 2012
3:56 pm
I watched the play you referred to a 2:03. There was no foul on the play. It was a clean block that took our man down and out of the play. My solution would be for you to watchl/leanrn more about football. since you did not play the game it may take some time.
Go Dawgs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe
November 14th, 2012
5:32 pm
Psddy, if you did not see the Gtu player dive into the back of DeAngelo Tyson’s leg, then you are blind.
Paddy
November 14th, 2012
6:42 pm
No,I did not see it but I remember the play. It was a vicious clip, if it was the play that he got hurt. But Joe, we have been talking about cut blocks. Not a personnal foul call. You are getting off the subject. I hope now you understand the difference between a legal cut block and an foul for a chop block. That was the subject of Chip’s article. Go back and read my posts about the subject, it may help. I know what I am talking about when it comes to this rule. It is not about hating the enemy but the fairness of using the cut block as defined by rule. The chop block is so rare I can’t understand all the fuss. If a chop block foul is called it’s always a mistake by the 2nd player. No coach at any level would teach that technique.
Coach
November 14th, 2012
7:30 pm
Is the NCAA going to investigate Jenkins?
Coach Richt is correct, everyone does it, including UGA, and he probably wishes his backs and receivers were more effective blocking on the corner. Gurshall would be unstopable on the edge. Tech just runs the ball more = more cut blocks.
Tim Dawg
November 14th, 2012
10:13 pm
Joe, you are as stupid as the day is long. We cut block just like Ga Sou and GT. If you knew anything about our team, you’d know that 75% of them are special admits. We need to worry about our own farm, not someone else’s.
tommy
November 15th, 2012
1:02 am
I think too much is being made of the cut blocking. This preseason at the ACC meetings, a coach spoke up and asked that cut blocking be made illegal. Johnson then asked all the coaches to tell how many of their players were hurt from cut blocking in 2011. There was not a reply from any coach in other words, no players were hurt in the ACC from cut blocking. I am pretty sure the report is wrong from the UGA game last year that says UGA had a season ending injury from the cut blocking.
Here is another point. All college and pro teams cut block on pass plays. Tech cut blocks on running plays. I don’t believe UGA would be crying about this if Tech had not scored 68 points against a top 25 defense of UNC.
My conclusion: Quit crying. Any players is subject to injury in football. Cut blocking is no more dangerous than anything else.
Paul "Bear" Bryant
November 15th, 2012
7:44 am
Cut Blocking is the foundation of true “Old Man Football”. Hail Southern.
Paddy
November 15th, 2012
7:46 am
Tim Dawg & Tommy…..well said. I think Joe has finally got the message and will now learn how to watch football. If that happens he may become a real Dawg fan worthy of the name! But he is not there now!
old time dog
November 15th, 2012
9:51 am
We just blanked an SEC team. Georgia Southern is not even in the same division much less conference. If it isn’t 60 to 0 we need to hang our heads in shame.
Paddy
November 15th, 2012
10:29 am
old time dog…….can’t see a 60 point margin in this game. Just think Fla Atlatic and Buffalo. I know we are peaking but these guys can play regardless of what division they play.
old time dog
November 15th, 2012
10:52 am
So Paddy, you don’t think Auburn could beat these guys by 3 touchdowns. Auburn is down but they would have to be at least a 21 point spread.
just the truth
November 15th, 2012
11:03 am
I’ll tell you what should be illegal, being a very bad high school student academically, going to junior college and then coming to a big Div. 1 school and majoring in Child and Family Development should be illegal. What he needs to check up on is after ball will he be able to support himself
Paddy
November 15th, 2012
2:46 pm
old time dog……what does Auburn have to do with the fact that I doubt the Dawgs will win by 60 as you hope they do? I do belive Maine Maritime could defeat Newport News Apprentice by 14 if that helps you any. LOL
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