Vince Dooley says losing Isaiah Crowell ‘best thing to happen’ for Bulldogs
ATHENS – Isaiah Crowell getting arrested and kicked off the team may have been a blessing in disguise for the Georgia Bulldogs.
So thinks former Georgia coach and athletic director Vince Dooley. I was interviewing Coach Dooley on Monday for another project I’m doing for the AJC when the subject of Crowell came up. Crowell, a rising sophomore and former 5-star recruit who was the Bulldogs’ leading rusher last season, was dismissed by head coach Mark Richt following Crowell’s arrest on felony weapons charges. Crowell has since transferred to Alabama State, an FCS program in Montgomery, Ala., and started classes on Monday.
That chain of events may help the Bulldogs in the long run, Dooley contends.
“I don’t want to put any pressure on them, but losing that guy may have been the best thing to happen to them,” said Dooley, who coached the Bulldogs to six SEC championships and one national title in 25 seasons. “It was a bad-apple type thing, if you ask me.”
“Bad apple” was the second term Dooley used to describe Crowell’s effect on the team. The first was more effective but he asked me not to use it.
Dooley said Crowell undoubtedly is a talented football player and probably was the Bulldogs’ best option at tailback. But the negative effects as far as being a troublemaker and a distraction far out-weighed any skills he brought to the field, Dooley said.
Now that Crowell is gone, “That kind of thing will unite a team many times,” Dooley said. “Historically when things like this have happened in the past, they tend to have a unifying effect on teams. They go on to have an even better season than they were predicted to have.”
Georgia, of course, is generally considered the favorite to repeat as the SEC Eastern Division champions and play in the SEC Championship. That is, if the Bulldogs are still able to field a team. With Crowell out and linebacker Brandon Burrows’ recent decision to transfer in search of more playing time, Georgia has dipped below 70 scholarship players heading into next season. The NCAA allows 85.
At least one person agrees with Dooley. Alabama State coach Reggie Barlow said the last three SEC teams that sent high-profile transfers to play for him — Florida, Auburn and Alabama — went on to win national championships the following season.
Dooley recalled that Georgia had a great player that left after the 1958 season and turned pro as a junior — very unusual in those days — and that rallied the rest of the team, which went on to win the 1959 SEC championship. Dooley could not immediately recall that player’s name, though I deduced it must have been center/linebacker Dave Lloyd, who was drafted in the fourth round that year by the Cleveland Browns. I couldn’t find anyone who knew for sure, but you get the point.
“This guy was a heck of a player, but he was a real problem on the football team,” Dooley said. “When he decided to leave, Coach [Wally] Butts went into a depression; he knew he had lost his best athlete. But as it turned out it unified the team. That often happens.”
Dooley also offered what I thought was one of the more insightful observations I’ve heard about Crowell as a running back last season. As we all know, Crowell’s toughness was questioned as he often pulled himself out of games or found himself sidelined with minor injuries. Dooley thought there might have been a good solution for that.
“Looking back at it, he would have been a great second-half running back,” Dooley said. “I never wanted that guy around in the fourth quarter if he started the game, because it seemed like he’d had enough by then. But I would’ve loved to have him around in the third or fourth quarter if he hadn’t played any to that point. Imagine once the defense gets tired and he comes in. He could’ve been a superstar second-half player. Herschel [Walker] got stronger in the fourth; this guy got weaker. So I would’ve waited until the second half to play him. He was pretty doggone good when he was fresh. That might’ve been a good idea looking back at it.”
Dooley has always had a great football mind.
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395 comments Add your comment
merbertmoover
July 9th, 2012
2:45 pm
Under two months to go…..cannot wait….
Bulldoga Fan
July 9th, 2012
2:46 pm
The team and IC need to move forward and use this as a learning experience to grow from personally and professionally.
All parties will account for there actions, but “he and or she who is without sin, cast the first stone.”
FalconUGAFan
July 9th, 2012
2:47 pm
@Goldenrod..What would you know about class? Yep nothing.
Observer
July 9th, 2012
2:48 pm
It has become clear that personal character is never considered in the recruitment process.
Martin the Calvinist
July 9th, 2012
2:49 pm
Goldenrod, I wouldn’t be throwing out the word cesspool in reference to Athens knowing what seems to happen on a daily basis around Tech housing…….just sayin’
dmr
July 9th, 2012
2:51 pm
GOLDENROD is obviously a BLITHERING IDIOT who has never met coached Dooley. Goldenrod is one of those bleeding-heart lefties who thinks that when life isn’t fair, it is always someone else’s fault.
Crowell has G-d given talents. He still has a chance to make something of himself and I hope he does. The problem isn’t that Crowell grew up having it rough. The problem is the morons who went on to let him think it was okay to break rules and be a burden to his teammates and then use others as an excues.
Plenty of people have had it rough. Ask Warrick Dunn about losing his mother and taking care of his entire family.
Dooley has plenty of class. It’s when you talk to an idiot like Goldenrod, that you find out that when you tell someone the cold, hard, truth, the only thing they can do is try to turn on someone else.
Hey Goldenrod…GROW A PAIR AND GROW UP!
Martin the Calvinist
July 9th, 2012
2:52 pm
BTW, the last two times Tech has won the ACC in football, they have had to vacate the title……Tech sucks! There won’t be another dominating Tech football team for a long, long time……
BigDawg
July 9th, 2012
2:52 pm
Golden Tool, GT has a lovely safe campus, vibrant support of its football in a massive stadium, beautiful coeds, and alumni who run Olympic games and serve as Governor, no wonder you are once again on our blog. hahahaha!
corkylovesbeer
July 9th, 2012
2:54 pm
if dooley didn’t have 34….he would have been fired
Columbus
July 9th, 2012
2:56 pm
Character is and was considered. It was well known he had some growing up to do and he was still in the process but certainly not there yet obviously and who knows may never be. Schools still wanted him despite his immaturity. Its more about maturity and growing up and putting down the weed and having fun than character. Like Georgia’s top recruit recently said” everybody isnt brought up the same way. He obtaned some bad habits hangups along the way. that he needs to let go of and get some emotional growth. Lets not judge unless we walked in his shoes. MANY kids who grew up where and how he did turned out MUCH worse than smoking weed. Stone casters.
Beast from the East
July 9th, 2012
2:56 pm
Losing any player, much less the #1 rated RB coming out of high school, is NEVER a good thing. I think he certainly deserved to be dismissed, but there is no way any rational person can spin this as a positive thing…unless you’re looking through red and black glasses.
@spencaman
July 9th, 2012
2:57 pm
I guess Goldenrod’s comment was taken down prior to me reading this article. Oh well, would love to have seen it to give my opinion. #GATA
gomdawg
July 9th, 2012
2:57 pm
Crowell is in the past let’s leave it there. Let’s talk about the real Dawgs .55 days and counting GO DAWGS 2012
King Pellinore
July 9th, 2012
2:57 pm
Agree with Vince. However, it is disturbing that this continues to be a pattern with the program. How much effort and time is wasted on players who we know have questionable character, and have very little chance to make it in a big time college environment?
Nate the Great
July 9th, 2012
2:57 pm
I am honestly expecting a major let dow of a year. I love UGA, but I do not expect any more than 9 wins. I hate UF, but I really think they will take the east because of too many distractions.
Assessment for 2012:
1) Defense will play well, but not what people are expecting.
2) Offensive line will be MUCH more stout than anyone expects and look better because KM is the real deal!!
3) These off the field mental lapses will continue onto the field and will cost us a few close games.(UF, TENN, and Vandy…we will win in both Columbia’s).
4) CMR is back on the hot seat for not winning more with a cupcake schedule.
IMO. There is a reason the AJC (or anyone for that matter) hasn’t hired me to make predictions!!!!
4)
Dawggone
July 9th, 2012
2:57 pm
OOPS you had it right I was wrong. Hope Coach Dooley is correct in his thinking. It could happen.
Roger
July 9th, 2012
2:58 pm
When will these coaches learn that when a player want the number “1″ it is all about them, and not the team. We’ve seen this many, many times. And … why would Richt allow two players to wear No. “1″ last year – apparently he just doesn’t get it.
claytondawg
July 9th, 2012
3:01 pm
@Goldenrod…”Dooley is a classless mutt.” You really have exhibited utmost stupidity. Vince represented UGA with more class during his 25 or so years tenure than ANY OTHER coach has or will ever coach in the SEC. I’ve met and spoken with him personally several times while at UGA and out of college. Each and every time, this man was a gentleman throughout those conversations. Actually, one of the few people who talk and look you in the eye with answers. Show some “class” of your own; think before you spout off inane rants.
dawgs1966
July 9th, 2012
3:01 pm
Nobody asked you, Vince. Maybe you’ll tell us why you cut your political aspirations – so quickly.
sfeet
July 9th, 2012
3:02 pm
Dear AJC,
We’re all tired of hearing about Mr. Crowell. Enough already. I know, “then don’t read the article”.
Also, next fall, don’t succumb to temptation and report stats from Alabama State football games. We. Don’t. Care.
gomdawg
July 9th, 2012
3:06 pm
THANK YOU sfeet will said.
Ogeechee Dawg
July 9th, 2012
3:07 pm
Time to move on …however, the AJC will find a way to print 10 more stories over the next 2 weeks regarding UGA and IC.
gomdawg
July 9th, 2012
3:07 pm
well said
Real GT Fan
July 9th, 2012
3:08 pm
Obviously, Goldendouche doesn’t speak for GT. Vince Dooley epitomizes class. UGA would do well to find a new coach with half the class of Dooley. If they did, this stuff wouldn’t keep happening in Athens.
FLA DAWG
July 9th, 2012
3:08 pm
Coach Dooley is on the mark with every statement he made in my opinion.
I am also glad Crowell is gone. I seem to recall problems with the guy as soon as he showed up in Athens last year.
As far as the team coming together because of adversity, I hope that is the case. We sure need something to have these guys execute like a team for a change.
Newman
July 9th, 2012
3:09 pm
It was indeed Dave Lloyd. He went on to be an All-Pro for the Eagles.
gomdawg
July 9th, 2012
3:09 pm
AJC its because there is nothing to write about in Atlanta and the bumble bee’s
ozzfest
July 9th, 2012
3:09 pm
Imagine how GEORGIA would have dominated the 70’s and 80’s IF “bad apple” and “offensive bozo” Vince Dooley had not been the coach. Take away 1980, 1981, and 1982 and Dooley’s winning % was less than JIM DONNAN’S while at UGA.
Taste that apple.
LaGrange1975
July 9th, 2012
3:10 pm
I am sorry, but Georgia will not win a National Championship in football this year. I am disappointed that coach would say this. Those teams such as Florida, Alabama and Auburn have championship calibur teams regardless. Every year we do the same thing as fans of UGA. We try to find some technicality that will crown us champions this season. And when it doesn’t happen, we give up on the superstars that broguht us promise of a bright future. My wife who graduated from Alabama mad a great point. She said, “Ya’ll (Georgia) turn on your players too quickly. How in the world can you kick a player off of a team before he is even found guilty?” As a Georgia Alum and fan I am more embarressed by the way we kick our players under the bus at every sign of trouble. I know some of you are going to read this and tell me how wrong I am, but honestly I don’t care. Also, there is no way anyone can tell me that kids at other schools don’t have problems with their behavior as well. The difference is Athens seems to be the only one that goes out their way to find it.
Lastly, I am tired of people’s lives being ruined over victimless crimes. The constitution gives us the right to bare arms. For those of you ready to blast me, I do understand that having an altered serial number is illegal. For us to be such a free country we have some of the most idiotic laws. The one I hate the most is our drinking age. What sense does it make that we can send a 17 year old to die in war for this country but that same 17 year old can not legally have a drink of alcohol. BTW, I graduated from UGA
BG
July 9th, 2012
3:11 pm
I wonder what Vince thinks about his son keeping Da Rick Rogers on the team at UT? Rogers is a bad apple all he way around.
RHall55
July 9th, 2012
3:11 pm
The real question to Coach Dooley should have been: “How many changes would you make on this present coaching staff?” I will include Mike Bobo on that list; sure Vince would that include Bobo’s name but his play calling failures have cost UGA too many games!!
gomdawg
July 9th, 2012
3:11 pm
Crowell when he was out of the games he was on his cell phone . That told me enough about him he was not even watching the game . NO TEAM PLAYER DON’T NEED A KID LIKE THAT
lawzoo
July 9th, 2012
3:12 pm
Georgia is generally favored to win the east? Yeah because of the manipulated schedule. Ole Mess? At home? Carolina gets LSU on the road?
Wasn’t supposed to be that way. Slimey !
UGA = Yawn
July 9th, 2012
3:13 pm
It was a pattern under Dooley too. That is why he didn’t mention any ‘patterns’ or any decent journalist would have podded him further. How anyone can pick UGA when Spurrier is a coach of one of his rival SEC teams is beyond me. Spurrier will hit 3-in-a-row against UGA this year on his way to many wins over UGA – just like he did when he was at the U of F.
RHall55
July 9th, 2012
3:14 pm
If Will Friend does not get at least (2) OL commits @ Dawg Nite…..please send him packing!! Must be more productive on the recruiting side or we will continue to hear that the OL has a depth problem!!
Jim
July 9th, 2012
3:16 pm
The phrase “We WILL run this state” is one of the more pathetic Tech “Battlecry” I’ve yet to hear. 1) It’s a play off of a UGA phrase. 2) It further implies your inferiority. Have a sense of pride about you man and come up with something better on your own…smh.
gomdawg
July 9th, 2012
3:18 pm
LaGrange1975 , I do see where you and your wife are coming from, but a player that has been in trouble and was given rules to go by , out at 02:30 and coming from a smoking bar where mariyuana
was being smoked he choose to be there . and as i stated earlier on a phone during a game , not watching the or caring who wins. NOPE SORRY I GLAD HE IS GONE.
dawgfan
July 9th, 2012
3:18 pm
LaGrange1975 – you may be a UGA grad but your still a DUMBASS.
Dawg Haus
July 9th, 2012
3:20 pm
Crowell was a gamer when he felt like playing and the Dawgs will definitely miss his abilities on the field. That being said, a few decent carries aren’t worth the damage a kid like this can do to a locker room. Coach Dooley is probably right.
BAD DECISION!!!!!!!
July 9th, 2012
3:22 pm
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
UGA should have kept Crowell.
AK should have kept Petrino.
Bottom line, it is all about wins. No one cares what issues Alabama had last year, it is all about the trophy.
You are idiotic (and in denial) to disagree.
Bad decision, Richt!
ZinoDawg
July 9th, 2012
3:23 pm
Hey Bigdawg – you forgot to mention 10 out of the last 11! No more telling stat concerning the state of The State than that!
LaGrange1975
July 9th, 2012
3:23 pm
@dawgfan. You don’t know me. I offered my opinion and that’s what it is. I do not mind debating with anyone on this forum, however, I refuse to allow you to call me out of my name. Apparently, you have nothing intelligent to offer to this conversation so therefore I will not stoop to your ignorant level. For those of you who disagree with me then I can respect that. For those of you can only respond with an insult then you can “fill in the blank _______________________. Thank you.
LaGrange1975
July 9th, 2012
3:29 pm
@gomdog, I understand your position about the phone. No player should be allowed to have a phone during a game unless there is some type of emergency or outside family issue that is going on. As far as getting in trouble, when I was in school, I did some crazy things. I am glad that I had some adults around me that didn’t give up on me just because I made a few mistakes.
DIT
July 9th, 2012
3:29 pm
Out of curiosity, why is it when people on these blogs have nothing intelligent to say to turn to name calling?
John
July 9th, 2012
3:30 pm
LaGrange, your wife is as clueless as you, Crowell was given many chances and yes Alabama went thru a lot of lean years, and they also kick their kids under the bus like every other school does, you only hear about it more because you live in Georgia. UGA doesn’t need more dummies on the team.
BillS
July 9th, 2012
3:31 pm
@LaGrange1975, I concur with your rant about our liquor laws. Whose fault is that? It’s the Georgia legislature. Blame them and their lack of courage and ethics for outdated, antiquated, contrarian laws.
corkylovesbeer
July 9th, 2012
3:36 pm
Lagrange1975,
I agree with your comments. We do turn our backs on the players in a heart beat. I also graduated from ga. The ACC police are major league _______________ fill in the blank. Most of the ACC police are envious of the students.
JFKDawg
July 9th, 2012
3:36 pm
Hey Bad Decision. You should also add Bad Geographer. Its AR, not AK as in Alaska you dufus.
LaGrange1975
July 9th, 2012
3:37 pm
@John, No my wife and I are not clueless. We just understand that you can’t turn your back on someone everytime there is a sign of trouble. I don’t care what was reported about this kid in the past. What we are talking about here are the weapons charges. If it is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty then his spot should have been held until he either admitted that he did wrong or was found gulity.
Also, when I was his age, trust me, I stayed out late partying as well. That’s what college kids do. I just don’t understand why so many people are forgetting what they themselves did at the same age. So no, my wife and I are not clueless. We are just not a bunch of hypocrites who get on a forum and act like we live these perfect lives.
Swamp Thing
July 9th, 2012
3:39 pm
UGA won the SEC East last year, and might again this year and “It’s not the economy, Stupid – It’
s the cupcake schedule. SOS beat every team in the SEC East last year and didn’t win it. How did BAMA magically disappear from UGA’s schedule this year – must be cheaper to go to Missouri then Tuscaloosa. Food for thought – UGA will lose to Vandy this year – we all know how their coach loves UGA, and that’s not all – UF might lose to Vandy too. USCe is the best team in the SEC East…
LaGrange1975
July 9th, 2012
3:43 pm
@John, no my wife and I are not clueless. We just understand that we were once these kids age and made some of the same mistakes. I am so glad that I had adults around me that did not turn their backs on me just because I made a few mistakes.
Trust me, when I was his age I stayed out late partying myself. That is what college was about. The thing that I hate is the people getting on these blogs trying to act as if they have never made some of the same mistakes some of these kids are making. The bottom line is, none of us are perfect. We all make mistakes.
Rick James
July 9th, 2012
3:44 pm
@GTBob
He is probably right. Unfortunately, he would be right about most of the other UGA players as well. UGA at this point isn’t a few rotten apples, it is a bad tree. If something significant doesn’t change then it will stay that way
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Surely if things are as bad as you say Tech will win in Athens this year right?
Beast from the East
July 9th, 2012
3:44 pm
Swamp Thing,
As a fellow Gator, I find your comment about UGA’s schedule embarassing. In case you didn’t know, the league office sets the conference schedule, so UGA is just benefiting from the luck of the draw this year and last. Truly unfair to criticize any team over their conference slate.
Anh Nguyen
July 9th, 2012
3:45 pm
52 Days until college football!
dt4c
July 9th, 2012
3:48 pm
IMO if I were Dooley I would never again consent to an interview with this writer. By bringing up the fact that bad apple was Dooley’s second choice of a word IMO it violated a confidence. It should have never been stated.
LaGrange1975
July 9th, 2012
3:50 pm
Thanks Corky. @BillS, I agree.
bad apples & romantic hash browns
July 9th, 2012
3:51 pm
`
…. the ‘best thing to happen’ for Alabama State also ?
aDumbGuyAlumni
July 9th, 2012
3:52 pm
Scoreboard aside, UGA has had more arrests, felons, and players in hot water than anybody in NCAA football in the last 5 years. Kudos to CMR on that. He’s really trying hard to get those kids out of the ghetto and I don’t see anybody else putting out that much effort to do so since Miami back in the day.
Vampire Bill
July 9th, 2012
3:53 pm
Dooley is right on with his assessment especially the 2nd half part. I wish Richt would think outside the box a little.
Swamp Thing
July 9th, 2012
3:53 pm
Beast of the East – How I remember those great days as a 28 year season ticket holder – and I know the the league sets the schedule – but I find it interesting that BAMA was gone and it wasn’t OLE MISS. It’s not embarrasing at all..
steve
July 9th, 2012
3:55 pm
This is a kid that wore an Alabama hat on his official visit to Auburn, because “it matched his outfit”.
That should have raised some flags about his character.
bad apples & romantic hash browns
July 9th, 2012
3:55 pm
Can Dooley give Bobo
some offensive lessons about the running game ?
7576DAWG
July 9th, 2012
3:58 pm
LaGrange1975
My last Quarter at Georgia was Dec.1975 and had to Graduate with the June 1976 Graduates.
I’m sure what happened was Mark Richt call Crowell into his office and asked him did he know who’s gun that was and when Richt was convinced that Crowell knew about the gun in ANY manner had no recourse but to kick him off the team because he can’t be on the team if Adams kick’s him off the campus for violating a policy where you are AUTOMATICALLY kicked out of UGA.
If students were allowed to carry a gun on campus whether it was on their person or in their car we would have dozens of gun fire incidents every year.
When you and I were brought up we were taught properly how to handle any gun and respect it’s power but today’s kids are taught by computer games and have no idea how destructive a gun in the wrong hands can be.
Dawg Haus
July 9th, 2012
3:58 pm
Swamp Thing, Bama was replaced by Missouri because Georgia went to Oxford last season and the Rebels owe the Dawgs a trip to Athens. The Bama series was just pushed back a year.
GTBob
July 9th, 2012
4:00 pm
Surely if things are as bad as you say Tech will win in Athens this year right?
No, Tech has very little chance this season. UGA’s problems aren’t enough to drag them down to Tech’s level, they are just bad enough to keep UGA from ever jumping to a championship level.
bad apples & romantic hash browns
July 9th, 2012
4:01 pm
8-5 Missouri was 6-1 at home last season.
BiggDawgK
July 9th, 2012
4:01 pm
Another thing that Coach Dooley touched on that had disturbed me even before IC was arrested was his ability to pull others into his “crimes”. Unlike others who have been in trouble IC always managed to drag someone down with him. Luckily he didn’t do so this final time. Considering IC never had much to say and seemed to have zero personality, he sure seemed charismatic when it came to seducing other players into his hi jinks.
Swamp Thing
July 9th, 2012
4:02 pm
Beast From the East – How I remember those days and T-Shirts that your name comes from. As a 28 year season ticket holder, I know the conference determines the schedules – usually 5 or so years in advance – but with Mizzou and Texas A & M coming in the SEC, schedules were quickly changed..UGA has a great influence in the SEC, and how BAMA was gone (haven’t played them in 3 years) and Missouri was scheduled makes me wonder why OLE MISS wasn’t dropped.
EricADawgFan
July 9th, 2012
4:02 pm
LaGrange 1975
I agree with you totally.
Chip Towers
July 9th, 2012
4:03 pm
Newman: Thanks. I knew somebody on here would know.
Beast from the East
July 9th, 2012
4:04 pm
Swamp Thing,
Luck of the draw. The only team that I would be believe that has that much influence is Bama.
LaGrange1975
July 9th, 2012
4:05 pm
@7576DAWG, you make a valid point. The issue is we need to get back to teaching the value and use. However, I do not agree that there would be more gun violence if more people had them. I can give a lot of stats but I don’t want to bore you.
SOUTHGADAWGG88
July 9th, 2012
4:06 pm
LOL.Vince knows all about questionable “characters”…I’m kind of surprised he would even make that statement on record.
Sussex Club
July 9th, 2012
4:06 pm
Hope those two freshman running backs from North Carolina are good apples and play like
Marcus Lattimore.
Nate the Great
July 9th, 2012
4:07 pm
@ LaGrange1975
July 9th, 2012
3:37 pm
——-
Who’s to say they didn’t interview the other players in the car and his friends on the team to get better info than what has been released? CMR gives kids A LOT of slack and does his due diligence before doling out punishment. IC might have admitted guilt to it to CMR and lied to police. Ever think of that?
PS Ask your wife what she thinks of Duron Carter. He’s a problem child that CNS has just turned loose and so did OSU. Kids get chance after chance to the point where it becomes disrespectful to the coaching staff to be out at 230am REGARDLESS of what you are doing. Plus, how many times was he suspended last year for smoking pot? 2-3xs? He wreaked of weed and you still think he deserves another chance? Where exactly is the line in the sand drawn? If you can’t set rules and limits the children that are our fb players will walk all over you and never grow into the men you expect them to be in life.
DirtyDawg
July 9th, 2012
4:07 pm
Hey Lagrange, Richt, McGarity, et.al., didn’t turn their back after just one mistake. The kid wasn’t just a bad apple, and I can imagine what other term Vince was using, he was leading a posse down the wrong path. You and I don’t know what else they had put up with, but when you reach the ‘last straw’, enough is enough. Zack Mettenberger pulled a sexual assault and lied about it to his coaches…gone. Damon Evans embarrassed the school and the athletic program…gone. Isaiah Crowell just didn’t seem to understand what it meant to stop being a punk…gone.
Trueblueeagle
July 9th, 2012
4:09 pm
What happens to the other four players that were with IC? Maybe this will help them stay in school and stay out of trouble.
Aldi Truth # 40
July 9th, 2012
4:14 pm
Vinces first choice of word rhymes with bug.
UGA Insider
July 9th, 2012
4:16 pm
Billy Payne:
I hope you read the AJC. Leadership is BADLY needed up here. You are a leader who commands respect. I don’t see anyone up here like that at present. McGarity is in WAY over his head.
Old Dawg
July 9th, 2012
4:17 pm
Well said, coach. It’s sad that Crowell threw away his opportunity at UGA. I hope he learns from his mistakes.
It’s shame that players are under more scrutiny now than in the past, but that’s the era we are in. You would think that current student-athletes would realize that and try and walk a straighter line. At the same time, all of us did stupid things at that age. So we shouldn’t be so quick to judge.
7576DAWG
July 9th, 2012
4:17 pm
LaGrange1975
I would think most if not all COLLEGE campuses have a very strict policy about carrying a gun on campus. I have daughters 20 and 22 years old and I have taught them properly how to use a gun but if they were allowed to carry a gun , because of a permit, they would be carrying one right now instead of pepper spray. And my policy would be: Girl’s you know if you are being threaten so if you are, don’t hesitate or it may be too late and shot to kill.
LaGrange, how many other parents would have the same instructions if gun laws were that lax?
Nate the Great
July 9th, 2012
4:18 pm
LaGrange1975
July 9th, 2012
3:43 pm
@John, no my wife and I are not clueless. We just understand that we were once these kids age and made some of the same mistakes. I am so glad that I had adults around me that did not turn their backs on me just because I made a few mistakes.
Trust me, when I was his age I stayed out late partying myself. That is what college was about. The thing that I hate is the people getting on these blogs trying to act as if they have never made some of the same mistakes some of these kids are making. The bottom line is, none of us are perfect. We all make mistakes.
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When you were his age, did you have a full ride on football with a great chance of becoming a top 10 nfl draft pick? If he came here to party, then he really shouldn’t be on a fb scholly and maybe foot the bill for tuition like you or your parents did. College for IC was a chance to make millions in signing bonus as a rookie, not all about “partying” like it was for you. No offense but every kid that signs up for SEC football knows that it is the minors for the NFL. This goes with the territory of being so hotly pursued as a hs recruit.
If I’m on an academic scholly and screw up, guess what they do…YANK THE FREAKING SCHOLLY!! Come on man! Get with it and quit making excuses for “innocent until proven guilty” crap!!
CMR did IC a favor. He allowed him to transfer before the start of fall and not sit him for an entire year until the court sorts it all out. Did any of this ever cross your mind before you started bashing CMR with your wife?
LaGrange1975
July 9th, 2012
4:19 pm
I still haven’t seen where this young man was found guilty in a court of law. I still say Innocent until proven guilty. After this comment, I am done. I will just read.
dawg fan
July 9th, 2012
4:22 pm
go away dooley, you are not relevant anymore!
SecGuy
July 9th, 2012
4:25 pm
LaGrange1975, your points are not crazy. IMO, had it been up to Richt, Crowell would still be on the team. McGarity is calling the shots on discipline now.
Hand it to Herschel
July 9th, 2012
4:26 pm
IF Dawgs win both road games in Columbia they run the table & play for the BCS title ! Woof Woof Woof Sic “em
All Saints
July 9th, 2012
4:27 pm
In tribute to our beloved martyred Saint Jan Kemp, let’s all bow our heads for a few moments of silent prayer. Thirty years ago, this courageous young lady risked everything to expose the corruption and academic fraud instigated by Vince Dooley, sleazy practices that continue to this day under Mark Richt.
And now, let us all pray for Saint Jan…
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Thank you, you can now resume your normal activities.
Nate the Great
July 9th, 2012
4:27 pm
LaGrange1975
July 9th, 2012
4:19 pm
I still haven’t seen where this young man was found guilty in a court of law. I still say Innocent until proven guilty. After this comment, I am done. I will just read.
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And we can just allow him to waste another year until we figure out what we already know…he is guilty!! Lets keep him around so he can’t move on with life and the AJC writes a “new” article about him once ever two weeks until he is found guilty in a court of law? That would be better? I take it you are not in PR…
beebee
July 9th, 2012
4:27 pm
oh you poor widdle georgia fans. y’all gonna suffer through a 5-7 season and will be at each others’ throats, and richt’s throat too!
And the Jackets will be laughing at ya all the way till next season!
Ha haa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
4:28 pm
I pointed this out when Richt suspended Ealey, that 6.6 yards per carry, in the 4th quarter, and Ealey’s 4th best in the NCAA 4th Quarter td’s, was something to think about.
true, Crowell did only average 4 ypc in the 4th quarter, he was no Washaun Ealey.
But, as long as you have a QB that turns the ball over 30 times a season, having a great 4th quarter rb like Ealey, isn’t an advantage.
Murray pretty much is the greatr equalizer to great running back productivity.
And remember, Richt rotates 5 running backs, so it won’t really matter who averages what, they’re sitting the bench for 60% of the game, regardless of whether they lead te team in td’s, like Ealey did in 2009, or top 5 in the nation in 4th quarter td’s, like Ealey did in 2009, or 6.6 ypc, like Ealey got in 2009.
Applicable TV/Movie Quote
July 9th, 2012
4:28 pm
From the film Barcelona:
Woman (Shootings in America): You can’t say Americans are not more violent than other people.
Fred: No.
Woman (Shootings in America): All those people killed in shootings in America?
Fred: Oh, shootings, yes. But that doesn’t mean Americans are more violent than other people. We’re just better shots.
The Diesel
July 9th, 2012
4:32 pm
I am sure ol Chip didn’t bring up the question about IC.Hey Chip why can’t you write about something else.IC has moved on.Why can’t you.
The Diesel
July 9th, 2012
4:33 pm
Hey Chip,how about some articles about the Dawgs,you know the players that are getting ready for the season.Thanks Chip,you are a heckuva journalist.
Damon Evans
July 9th, 2012
4:34 pm
How many white dawg fans would live next door to an African American?
Doug
July 9th, 2012
4:35 pm
What happened to the UGA basketball team the year after Domminique left?
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
4:35 pm
What Dooley neglected to mention, was Murray’s 2nd half decrease in production and accuracy.
Murray in 1st-4th quarter td’s: 7, 17, 5, 6,
24 td’s -1st half
11 2nd half
Murray’s accuracy in 1st-4th quarters: 66, 58, 57, 56
Murray’s interceptions:
1st half 6
2nd half 8
JoeyHanie
July 9th, 2012
4:35 pm
I think this team suprises everyone. I personally think the runningback situation will be better with out IC. There wont be a choosen one, like in the past, and a talent wasted. See Knowshon redshirt…… Keith Marshall and Todd Gurley will run wild, while Boo Malcome and Richard Samuel get the tuff yards…..4 fresh backs at all times. I’m ok with that
Holy Guacamole
July 9th, 2012
4:37 pm
LaGrange – I might agree with you except for the obvious that your statement is missing (and frankly, we don’t know), IC was given chance after chance to follow the rules. I really don’t think that CMR wanted to lose him and his talent. It just seems like IC couldn’t follow the rules and stay out of trouble. Where do you draw the line? How many chances do you give him? I’ll bet he got plenty.
McDawg
July 9th, 2012
4:41 pm
i don’t care how tough you are- a high ankle sprain is a high ankle sprain and for a tailback its pointless to play at 75%
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
4:41 pm
Richt’s going to rotate Malcome, Samuel, Marshall, Gurley, and Harton, they’ll all get plenty of reps, regardless of their productivity.
It’s “the Georgia way”.
Note;
That’s why Carlton Thomas and Ealey both transferred.
Doug
July 9th, 2012
4:45 pm
Yes, someting positive, every now and then, would be a refreshing change!
Holy Guacamole
July 9th, 2012
4:45 pm
Macon sportswriters are better than the AJC anyway. I offer the following:
http://www.macon.com/2012/07/06/2086919/georgia-moves-on-without-heralded.html
ARdawg
July 9th, 2012
4:48 pm
Lagrange1975
Welcome to the blog there guy. I think your wife’s remarks miss the boat. Giving up on players too early? There was considerable discipline problems with IC last year that was never made public. If it were his first occurrence, yeah, you and your wife would have a point. Fact is, there was more, and even more that was public. The kid had his opportunity and choose to blow it. Now Saban might be willing to give a potential superstar more chances. I’m pretty proud of Richt for taking the position he has. No one player is bigger than the team
Gone but not forgotten
July 9th, 2012
4:49 pm
Let’s see now… Vince Dooley’s “remedial studies” scam cost UGA a cool $1,000,000 plus attorneys’ fees when UGA lost the case filed by Jan Kemp. Why don’t you ask Dooley why he didn’t testify in the trial, and why he suddenly dropped his plans to run for US Congress.
Good questions, to be sure.
Grinner
July 9th, 2012
4:50 pm
Macon writers must be on the UGA payroll, they just type sweet nothin’s. They’re not journalists, more like volunteer UGA pr reps.
bottom line
July 9th, 2012
4:51 pm
The good news is, Dooley is correct: Less is more, with Crowell gone.
The bad news: The head coach is still doing the empowering and he remains.
saban
July 9th, 2012
4:51 pm
Dre Kirkpatrick carried a gun everywhere he went. We worried about him the whole time he was at alabama. Luckily he never “got” in trouble until after he left tuscaloosa. Some coaches just can’t keep them in line like i can.
Aldi Truth # 41
July 9th, 2012
4:53 pm
“Dooley always had a Great Football mind” Yeah and just proves Bobo and Richt cant coach on the fly or make the needed adjustments.
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
4:54 pm
Maybe we should just let Murray play in the 2nd quarter, since he threw 17 of his 35 td’s in that 1 quarter, and never threw more than 7 in any other quarter.
sherry
July 9th, 2012
4:54 pm
I am not sure you can win national championship. But, getting rid of Crowell needed to be done. I am glad to see him go. These young men to realize that they are handed a free education, doing what they love and still can’t appreciate it. I am sick the whining time to move on. GO DAWG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AceDawg
July 9th, 2012
5:00 pm
UGA should indeed think of its football players as role players more often when the situation lends itself to that approach. So simple, so genius. Dooley needs to get Richt and Bobo’s attention on this. There may be players on the team right now like that.
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
5:01 pm
Seems like I remember all the players talking about how great the team would be in 2010, since all the “cancers” were gone.
Getting rid of the team’s favortie leader, Mettenberger, didn’t unify the team, the team went 6-7 the next season.
So, losing one of your best most popular players, can also destroy a team.
bham dawg
July 9th, 2012
5:03 pm
@AceDawg… if people think that crowell is the only one that carries a gun on our football team they are sadly mistaken, and that goes for and college not just UGA.
JoeFann
July 9th, 2012
5:04 pm
Great insight from a great coach. However, Chip, this is a Bulldogs blog. As Mr. Crowell is a FORMER Bulldog, and no longer matriculating at UGA, I’d be happy not to see any more articles about him. No ill wishes, but let’s please focus on the current team.
Go Dawgs!
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
5:05 pm
Hutson Mason finished 3rd in the SEC in pass efficency.
Murray was 7th.
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
5:06 pm
that is, 2nd half pass efficiency, in the SEC, accordng to cfbstats.com
Hutson Mason, UGA, 3rd
Murray, UGA, 7th
Bama Mike
July 9th, 2012
5:06 pm
Vince still needs to come out and admit that Hobson’s knee was on the ground prior to the lateral way back in 65. Yes my dawg friends some losses do sting for a long long time. But old Vince is an ok guy in my book.
78Dawg
July 9th, 2012
5:08 pm
I think the word Dooley used first had to be “dumbass.”
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
5:09 pm
By the reaction of UGA team leaders like Cornelius Washington, I think it created a rift in the lockeroom, as half were behind Crowell, and half were behind Richt dismissal of Crowell. Crowell was very popular, he had 3 or 4 players with him in the car when it happened, for example.
Funyums Munchies
July 9th, 2012
5:10 pm
Richt needs to line up the players and say look to your left and right – two of you will be thrown in jail by the end … LOL.
Truth
July 9th, 2012
5:12 pm
Zinodawg…you’re quick to spout off 10 out of 11 over GT, but some how you never remember 18 out of 21. That’s how much the Gators OWN you mutts. Don’t quote one stat without the other!! You’ll always be Gator bait!! Yummy!!
Joey
July 9th, 2012
5:18 pm
“if dooley didn’t have 34….he would have been fired”
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How so, corkey? He had won 3 SEC Titles before Herschel got out of high school. When you don’t know UGA history, just don’t post and show that ignorance.
Thanks in advance.
Yeah.....
July 9th, 2012
5:21 pm
I’ve always thought having the SEC freshman of the year get kicked off the team is a good omen…..or maybe not so much?
corey simon
July 9th, 2012
5:24 pm
Vince has no idea what he is talking about as usual
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
5:26 pm
Murray is very good in opponents red zone, 21 td’s, 0 int’s. But he is terrible on his own side of the field.
So why not let Mason or Lemay handle the team form the 20-40 yard line, since Murray threw 1 td, and 6 int’s there last season?
Dooley might be on to something there.
corey simon
July 9th, 2012
5:27 pm
UGA football program should join either the Big East or MEAC. Things will get ugly fast in athens.
corey simon
July 9th, 2012
5:30 pm
@ JuniorsFarm
Dooley is not on to a thing! I guess you have to have some kind of hope for your dogs. QB is another issur for the dogs. This is not going to be a very productive season for them dogs!
JB
July 9th, 2012
5:31 pm
Someone on here posted a list of Georgia players for the last four years, signed, on the team, that are gone now. That list doesn’t include these two players in the last week or so. The list is alarming. We seem to sign some talented players, but the lunch pail types, the pollack types, the thomas brown types, the quality second teamer’s, seem to be missing. Roster management and loyalty to under performing assistants are two of Richt’s biggest weaknesses. Game planning and game day adjustments of late would be there also.
Ghost
July 9th, 2012
5:34 pm
Juniors Farm, Clueless one . Ealey didn’t have a choice was asked to transfer, Thomas transferred because he would’ve gotten zero carries.LOL at the Mason 2nd half stats Hutson played in 4 games all in the 2nd half. NM State, Coastal Carolina, Auburn, LSU.
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
5:34 pm
Hey……the Dawgs are a “shoe in” to win the national title this year now….just ask the South Alabama head coach. He and Mikey know……sounds like perfect logic to me…..send a great player to S. Bama…..and the coach will guarantee you a national title that year. Yeah boy!
Dante Phillips was denied his appeal to gain entry into the University of Florida. I wish him luck….but I hear his HS transcript was….well…..somewhat questionable. He will most likely end up at Miami…..they will take anyone as a private school…….but guess who is after him in the SEC…….Ole Miss……imagine that…..with all their high standards for accepting only the highest performing student athletes from other programs.
Holy Guacamole
July 9th, 2012
5:35 pm
More BS on here than you would find in a cow barn.
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
5:39 pm
“Lol.. You can carry a fire arm in Alabama, georgians can’t but we can…”
@See Rock City….
Letterman says…….#1 reason for staying the hell out of Alabama…….is……”
SOUTHGADAWGG88
July 9th, 2012
5:39 pm
The school get’s way more out of the deal than the players.UGA football revenue for 2009 was 72 million dollars according to Forbes.Let’s say it cost UGA 40k a year for each football player’s scholarship..that comes out to about 3.4 million for all 85.This means that off of ONE year UGA would be able to fully fund 85 football scholarships for the next 21 years.When you consider the fact that only half of all signed players ever graduate from college and it’s tilted even more to the school’s favor.UGA is also 2nd in the nation in profit margin at 50 million and doubled the profit margin of 10 other SEC programs.When it comes to spending on it’s football program UGA ranked 7th in the SEC
behind Bama,LSU,FLA,ARK,SC and AUB.
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
5:40 pm
Holy Guac…..
I don’t know…..I spent a lot of time at my cousin’s farm growing up……and there was a lot of BS in that cow barn…………
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
5:41 pm
……….actually……it was a horse barn……but doesn’t change the point.
Dawson Dave
July 9th, 2012
5:42 pm
Character is the last thing Richt considers when recruiting. It’s how fast they can run and how high they can jump. He would recruit from state prisons if it was within NCAA rules.
Gemini103
July 9th, 2012
5:43 pm
Enter your comments here
flea bitten dawg
July 9th, 2012
5:45 pm
No worries, this team has plenty of depth at the felon position. Someone will step up and shoot this team in the foot. But as usual, hope springs eternal in the cesspool. FBD out!
Gemini103
July 9th, 2012
5:45 pm
What about the two professors that still have there job
Devildog
July 9th, 2012
5:50 pm
It was Lloyd. Look at the size of the offense that year:
LE:Jimmy Vickers, 6-1, 190, Jr.
LT: Riley Gunnels, 6-3, 232, Sr.
LG: Pat Dye, 5-11, 190, So.; Billy Roland, 5-11, 205, Jr.
C: Dave Lloyd, 6-3, 220, Jr.
RG: Mike Anderson, 5-10, 205, Sr.
RT: Nat Dye, 6-3, 218, Sr.
RE: Gordon Kelley, 6-3, 200, Jr.; Bill Herron, 6-1, 201, Jr.
QB: Charley Britt, 6-1, 178, Jr.
LH: George Guisler, 6-0, 185, Jr. ; Fred Brown, 5-10, 172, So.
RH: Don Soberdash, 5-10, 184, Jr.
FB: Theron Sapp, 6-2, 201, Sr.
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
5:51 pm
Ealey, the top producing td guy in 2010, transferred because Richt wouldn’t make him the premeire back, Ealey just didn’t feel the vibe anymore for UGA, read the ESPN interview. Thomas was the leading yard per carry rusher, he left too because Crowell and the other backs like Samuel and Malcome were getting too many unearned reps. And Logan Gray, an Elite 11 transferred because he beat Murray out over 2 springs, and didn’t feel like he was given a fair shot, read his exit interview on ajc.
Entitlement has been a core issue for Mark Richt for years.
Rev Cleodus Jackson
July 9th, 2012
5:51 pm
When you set the bar higher by having one of the toughest substance abuse policies in the nation, you’re obviously putting yourself in a position to show up on the radar more often. I guess the alternative is to lower your standards like everyone else …..
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/web/COM1199883/index.htm
Granted, the SI article mentions nothing about weapons charges, leaving the scene of an accident, trading jersey’s/signatures for free tattoos/food/other gratuities, or getting caught with a honey in your car (ahem) or on your motorcycle.
chicken boy
July 9th, 2012
5:51 pm
It has all turned into a media circus event. If that Crowell guy would have been playing in 1946 he would have had his teeth knocked out and probably put in the hospital. Good that he is gone—he was way too fragile. Richt is still at UGA but that may not last much longer if the big one does not come soon. And that will be hard to do with LSU and Alabama hanging around. A few more months and we will find out who is who.
David M.
July 9th, 2012
5:53 pm
In a totally unrelated matter: What’s happening in Minnesota with the Caleb King assault case?
CaliDawg
July 9th, 2012
5:53 pm
When UGA was preseason #1 a few years back and had the toughest schedule in the nation…where were all the schedule excuse makers then? Play them one at a time and see where we end up.
ASU
July 9th, 2012
5:56 pm
We welcome you Mr. Crowell at Alabama State University!! GO HORNETS!!
Ghost
July 9th, 2012
6:04 pm
Junior, Logan couldn’t supplant Joe Cox, much less Murray, he switched to WR and when he left played WR at Colorado, Ealey was lazy and was asked to leave.If you believe Thomas is anywhere near the RB that Crowell, Marshall, Samuels .you are sadly mistaken. But you believe Gray was a better choice than a qb that was Elite 11 MVP.
James
July 9th, 2012
6:09 pm
Ahhh.. Lagrange….1925? Are we gonna talk about this years football class or debate bullshax? Let’s talk about something relevant like rice or sweet yams. I raised more hell at UGA than any of you yolks and I will tell you I never had a damn weapon. Gimme a “fill in the blank” break. This kid is a f’n “fill in the blank”.
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
6:10 pm
Let’s examine Dooley’s bad apple theory.
Rambo tested positive for drugs after Spring break.
Rambo only had 2 of his 8 interceptions against the 4 ranked teams.
So, All American Rambo, as part of the bad apple theory, would then be kicked off the team.
I guess you have to kick off all the secondary starters who got into trouble too.
Yeah, that will make the team SOOOO much better.
fishook dawg
July 9th, 2012
6:10 pm
Dooley’s son has already thinking of getting Crowell to come room with D. Rogers. I’m sure he can show Issiah how things are done the Tennesee way.
Really?
July 9th, 2012
6:11 pm
Did Allybama State make IC check his gun at the door?
UGA = Yawn
July 9th, 2012
6:12 pm
How ironic. I wrote earlier about the fact that it’s odd they would pick UGA when they have to play South Carolina and Spurrier every year. Then I came home from work and CBSSports Nework was replaying the SC / UGA game from September. The last 4 minutes were outstanding!!! THWG!!! Spurrier will beat you every year.
Blbbulldawg
July 9th, 2012
6:16 pm
So, we now have 70 or less scholarship players, and people think we can survive a season undefeated? Ha! Mark Richt has fooled us all for too many years. Start demanding we get a real football coach. I wonder, if we could get Jon Gruden right now, how many of you would say that is an immediate upgrade? Honestly, I bet most dawg fans would easily trade. What say you?
Search your soul! Hire Gruden!!! Secretly offer him!
Do it! Please release us from the false hopes of the Richt era…
Dean
July 9th, 2012
6:16 pm
This sure makes you doubt if Mark Richt even gives one thought to character and intelligence with the guys he recruits.
http://www.redandblack.com/sports/running-back-position-a-revolving-door-for-bulldogs-due-to/article_da276c92-c2c7-11e1-ae4d-001a4bcf6878.html
Ghost
July 9th, 2012
6:18 pm
LOL, have to play Spurrier and SC every year, 2011 1st time Spurriers hasn’t lost 5 o6 games in a season since he arrived at South Carolina, SS is 3-4 vs UGa while at Carolina, the most tradition-less program in the SEC.
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
6:18 pm
Anyone watch THE OPENING 7 on 7 games…….
…..and the future Florida Gators DB commits (Dre Bell, Nick Washington, Keanu Neal) eat up the passes that the future Georgia QB threw? Each one intercepted him….at least once…and knoked numerous passes he three down. Bell and Neal played on the championship team and excelled in every game they played. Florida defensive secondary is going to be really, really good for a lot of years to come…..and it is going to be very, very good this year.
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
6:19 pm
Carlton Thomas had a 4.95 ypc average, Crowell’s was 4.6.
Yet Thomas got 7 carries a game, to Crowell’s 15. Samuel averaged 2.9 yards per carry yet got more carries than Thomas, who got 4.95 yards per carry. Thomas transferred.
Ealey had 11 td’s, averaged over 5 ypc, but Richt gave him less than 150 carries.
Crowell had 5 td’s, averaged 4.6 ypc, but Richt gave Crowell 180+ carries. Ealey was easily the hardest worker on the team in the best shape, as he averaged 6.6 ypc in the 4th quarter.
Ealey transferred.
Logan Gray & Mettenberger, were both Elite 11 QB’s, who both outperformed Murray over Spring scrimmages and G-Day, but both saw Murray named the starter. Both transferred.
Lemay & Mason both outplayed Murray this Spring & G-Day (Murray only completed 50% of his throws for 2 td’s in the 3 Spring scrimmages). Murray is still named starter.
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
6:20 pm
Dean….
I think Richt did just fine this year with Marshall and Gurley……both high character guys. About time….right.
Kendell Jones
July 9th, 2012
6:21 pm
After reading a lot of comments above here, I find there are a lot of people who are posting for the sake of posting acomment to get thier psuedens in print. I have always been a Dawg fan, and as I remember Crowell he wasnot worth the salt that kept him going. He was LAZY. He wanted to be the star, but didn’t want to put out the effort to be star. I am glad he is gone. And as far as the small school that picked him up, I hope he won’t show how unworthy he is of playing even for a small school.
dee
July 9th, 2012
6:24 pm
Vince’s season is OVER…………..
Ghost
July 9th, 2012
6:25 pm
Junior, Mett was kicked off the team. Washaun was asked to transfer.Ealy hard working thats the funniest thing you’ve posted.
Troup Co. Dawg
July 9th, 2012
6:28 pm
Reuben Foster is coming and bringing all his friends….there is a bond that can’t be broken…..all you haters can not explain it! He is a genuine and humble person who has all the skills…I think he knows how to stay out of trouble as well ! If you were to put him at Tailback he would be the Next HW !! there, I said it and don’t regret it! Although I know he will be on defense! Go Dawgs !
JuniorsFarm
July 9th, 2012
6:30 pm
That is incorrect, Ealey had a discussion with Richt, and asked to be transferred according to the ESPN journalist.
Are you saying you know more about how Ealey left, or are more credible, as an anonymous blogger, than an ESPN journalist who interviewed him right after it happened?
Cmdawg99
July 9th, 2012
6:31 pm
If you can’t make it through college with out a misdemeanor or worse a felony. You don’t deserve to play college sports. What a wasted opportunity! Sad, but true. There is another scholly going to a well deserved walkon player.
KJ
July 9th, 2012
6:35 pm
“Spurrier will beat you every year.”
Oh look, someone else who’s only been watching football for 2 years.
Pitbull
July 9th, 2012
6:43 pm
What is it about either attending Tech or being a Tech fan than brings out the hatred and animosity in people? I am so glad I passed up on going there.
I know we have beat Tech in 10 of the last 11 games and that has to get to you, but does it really justify the crudeness and ugly character exhibited by Tech posters to these blogs?
It must feel terrible walking around with all of that hate built up inside and in the end it will hurt you the most as your life progresses. Wait and see.
As for IC. I am glad he is gone because his attitude was a detriment to the team. Somebody else will stand up and carry the ball and score touchdowns for us.
That said, this is still America and we are all innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of our peers. There are a lot of legal questions yet to be asked and answered by attornies before a verdict can be rendered.
Anyone can be arrested and charged with just about anything especially nowadays. But providing the evidence to support a guilty verdict in a court of law is another thing.
I personally do not care for IC, but when questions are asked about who else had access to the car, who else recently drove the car, what is the history of the handgun, etc. there may be a lot of people who owe that young man an apology, not that any of you will be big enough to give him one.
And at least he didn’t facilitate the sale of 100 pounds of pot.
Cmdawg99
July 9th, 2012
6:46 pm
When I was in college our coach informed us in the beginning if we had a “run-in ” with the law. We could kiss our scholarship good-bye. We didn’t have guys hitting girls or hit-n-runs or shaving the sn off a gun. I wonder what message “if any” is relayed to these kids? Regarding this issue? Just sayin and asking? Go Dawgs
Ghost
July 9th, 2012
6:46 pm
Junior, Wake up Richt gave him an unconditional release , he could’ve transferred anywhere.Why no takers? Ga Southern didn’t want him. Coaches don’t give players they want to stay unconditional releases. He was lazy and didn’t want to compete.Washaun was talented , but thought much more of himself than the Georgia or for that matter any SEC or ACC staff did.
JB
July 9th, 2012
6:48 pm
I hope Crowell’s new coach knows he’s only good for about 8-10 carries a game.
Dawg Haus
July 9th, 2012
6:50 pm
KJ, that was good!
Sid
July 9th, 2012
6:53 pm
corkylovesbeer
July 9th, 2012
2:54 pm
if dooley didn’t have 34….he would have been fired
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yeah right
25 seasons, averaged over eight wins a year, won six Southeastern Conference championships and one National Championship in 1980. Georgia record 201–77–10, SEC record 104–42–4.
Get back to your beer and think about your next brilliant comment submission.
PS I sure would have liked to have had Hershel for that 1983 season.
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
6:54 pm
Swamp Thing…..
Since you are all into conspiracy theories concerning why Georgia “had” Bama dropped and not Ole Miss. Well….here is another one for you…..maybe it was not Georgia who “had” them dropped….but Bama….since Georgia has “owned” them in recent years. Maybe you should approach Saban with your conspiracy theory on Georgia’s changed SEC schedule. Personally, I think Missouri paid Bama to tell the SEC to put Georgia on their schedule….and Florida, too, since the Gators are “going to lose to Vandy” this year. Dude….if you are a real Gator…..consider not being one.
Ga Grad '90
July 9th, 2012
6:55 pm
Crowell was not talented, Dooley. He was a gimpy, week, average runner with minimal future potential. Glad to see him go.
Ga Grad '90
July 9th, 2012
6:57 pm
Oh yeah, one more thing @ Sid et al. The best player in college football history is the only reason Dooley is still lingering around UGA. Without #34, Dooley would have been just like his son.
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
7:00 pm
Beast from the East….
I find myself disagreeing with a Gator fan a lot lately. Georgia losing Crowell cannot be anything but a good thing. He was a locker room and practice field cancer…..and such cancers can wreck a football “team.” And I think Marshall and Gurley will more than replace Crowell on offense for the Dawgs….and improve both the locker room and the practice field with their character and effort…..and after 2pm as well….when they are asleep in their respective dorm rooms….showing what true dedicated players do. ONE BIG LESS THING FOR GEORGIA TO WORRY ABOUT THIS YEAR. A bigger problem is their depleted roster….something Florida fans found out about last year. Georgia cannot take any major injuries to key players…other than maybe Murray. Georgia does have….unlike Florida last year….seasoned backups at QB.
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
7:02 pm
Ga Grad….
Crowell was gimpy for a “week?” No, he was gimpy for much longer than a week….I would say….several weeks….maybe a month or two…or a year even….but certainly not gimpy just for a “week.”
Glad to see someone has nearly as bad of typing skills as me.
squat
July 9th, 2012
7:03 pm
Goldie ..Lick my mutts golden rod..
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
7:04 pm
Anyone able to read the article talking about Wiggins trying to get a bunch of recruits at THE OPENING to come to a meeting to discuss all committing to one team…..Ruben Foster came….and left very early. I wonder what that was all about? Sounds like the kid is seriously out trying to twist arms to get people to come to Georgia….as another dream team….but maybe Foster burst his dream out in Oregon.
Nub
July 9th, 2012
7:08 pm
Thoughts on why UGA has 70 football players when the limit is 85?
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
7:10 pm
Ga Grad…..
Herschel Walker was “the greatest player in college football history”????? Based on what???? He is not even the greatest player in SEC history. He was a great college player however….as was Tebow. But neither is the best in college football history. But I would say Tebow would rank slightly higher on that list than Walker……slightly…….but Bo Jackson was better than both….and many in NCAA history….including the murderer from USC……were better than both Walker and Tebow in NCAA football history. Come on, man.
Dog recruiting
July 9th, 2012
7:11 pm
Anyone hearing about good recruiting news that will become public tomorrow? Reliable poster on Dawg Post mentioned it.
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
7:13 pm
@Dog recruiting…..
None of the current Georgia commits will be hanging out with Crowell at South Alabama tommorrow….even though he has invited them their for a “bang of a good time.”
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
7:14 pm
…sorry for the multiple typos in the last post. Typical of me, unfortunately.
gbal
July 9th, 2012
7:15 pm
This COULD worki our favor as VD says….. IF some team leaders will step it up and rally th troops. My concer is that there are not really leaders this day in time who will step up and rally the guys around this setback…. They generally feel that IC was done wrong…… In VD’s days there were more kids with character that recognized right from wron and the consequences…. Not today…. Ive raised 2 kids and know. Hope im wrong but my thougts/ And its not a UGA thin. Unfortunantly we have a mullet wrapper that can not sell papers supporting our team and rather allows the platform for bashing the only ting to write about that will draw a crowd….. Again. A change in character from the Dooley/Furman days to current day bloggersss…i mean sports journalist…. Good day GATA Dawgs
TampaGator
July 9th, 2012
7:17 pm
@Nub……
That is what happens when people ignore rules, disobey laws, don’t go to class….or complain because they don’t work hard enough to get above 3rd string and blame the coaches for it. Of course…..Georgia could go get 15 walk ons and give the all schollys to immediately solve the program. But I think they are focusing instead on recruiting players with higher character….which they should have been doing already….and maybe even teaching character and responsibility more to them when they get on campus….instead of thinking kis with poor economic and social backgrounds will just always do the right thing because the coach believes in Jesus.
Is logic out of vogue on here?
July 9th, 2012
7:20 pm
Let’s see. Coaches in the SEC are fired if they don’t win big enough. So Richt will deliberately play an inferior QB while leaving a better one on the bench? That makes a lot of sense. I guess Saban, Spurrier, Miles, etc. are all dummies for selecting Murray as one of the two best QBs in the SEC (as chosen by the coaches).
This may be a difficult choice for some, but I will take Richt’s judgement when it comes to QBs, over some computer jockey, unless said jockey has tutored two Heisman winners, an NFL #1 draft choice, and one of the winningest QBs in college history.
tony
July 9th, 2012
7:23 pm
I think Mr Richt need to win a national championship this season in order to build creditability due to the mistakes he has made @uga. I think his mistakes have contribute to players leaving the program and players having a nonchalant attitude.
I think favortism was his biggest mistake. Everything within a team must be merit-based. Rewards and even punishments must be commensurate to output and performance. If a leader plays favorites, then he is compromising the long-term health of his team.
snellville jacket
July 9th, 2012
7:25 pm
The Big Dawg has spoken and the best thing that could happen is no matter what team any player who was dismissed not accepted to any other school.
red and black
July 9th, 2012
7:33 pm
I agree totally with dooley on it being best for the team. IC was in Athens for the sole purpose of making it to the NFL asap. he never has any real loyalty to UGA; he wimped out at the first sign of a little injury and let his team donw both on and off the field he then claimed “I have learned from my mistakes and will be better for it.” Instead of being true to his word, he then turned around and screwed up again. I think the older guys took him under their wing and tried to bring him around, but at some point the other guys get sick of busting their buuts for a prima donna who cares nothing for the team. The old saying goes, Fool me once shame on you; fool me twice shame on me….I am sure that is exactly how the coaches and team feel…
Double Zero Eight
July 9th, 2012
7:34 pm
If this does not wake Crowell up, nothing will.
He will spend a year at Alabama State, and transfer
to Alabama the following year.
gbal
July 9th, 2012
7:41 pm
yea red and black., only the young guys hanging with IC…. Who look to his character issues as being OK…. Just the times folks and unfortunantly accepted bu socioty today… Look what we have in our top office of the United States of America…. A rock star.
Hair E Dawg
July 9th, 2012
7:41 pm
Musa Smith also would get stronger as the game went on…
gbal
July 9th, 2012
7:52 pm
High character coaches just cant seem to get the performance out of the high % of low character atheletes these days. Not saying its wrong for CMR to run a staff, but they just don jeehaw….
BehindEnemyLines
July 9th, 2012
7:53 pm
re: “That’s what college kids do” … Let’s try not to throw all of them under the bus with the poorly raised criminal element, m’kay? Various & sundry criminal acts are indeed common, but they aren’t quite universal just yet either.
Fulmer cup
July 9th, 2012
7:53 pm
Dooley doesn’t have sense enough to know that the Dwag teams are full of nothing but bad apples.
Look at the Fulmer Cup standings and see who’s on top most years! Who saw the Dwag baseball parent get arrested for fighting at his son’s baseball game? All over the national news! Lots of bad apples associated with the Cesspool! But heck, who cares. Winning is the most important thing…too bad they’re not good at that either! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
gbal
July 9th, 2012
7:56 pm
D. Dooley another CMR type…. and on the other extreme, L K seems to be able to relate with his low character persona… Checik fits…..
gbal
July 9th, 2012
8:00 pm
BEtL… not throwingng them all under the bus, but unfortunantly kids seem to follow the lower character kids as role models now days… Its hhow they have come up and what they see every day. … Just very low percentage of high character leaders now days. Lot different that the Dooley daysssss.
Valdosta Cat...
July 9th, 2012
8:02 pm
IC was a Dawg…. We loved him when he choose the Bulldawgs over Bama. We should respect the young man and pray he get’s his life together beyond football. These recruits see these post about them and their friends or old teammates. They post things about fairwether fans…see J. Jenkins and C Washington facebook and Tramel Terry interview regarding fans on espn.com. If a player decides to move on or get kicked off the team pray for the best for that one time DAWG and let it be. Move on to Dawgs and new business. Either way, I wish him well and hope he get his life together and breaks records at A state. UGA Dawgs will be alright with or without him!!!
gbal
July 9th, 2012
8:03 pm
A whole lot more universal than the Dooley days… I mean a whole lot!!!! Ben listening to Boortz lately whith the problems with socilty and crime…. He is dead on and this is the same problem with college atheletes now days. The problem does not discriminate and group of people, including college atheletes.
BG
July 9th, 2012
8:06 pm
Crowell would still be on the team at most of the SEC schools.
gbal
July 9th, 2012
8:06 pm
V Cat….. Pray he gets his life in order…. Yes…
Respect…. Your an intitlement nutcase too. You earn respect, it is not just handed to you. Im guessing your……????? Under 26? Am I right, Be honest now.
gbal
July 9th, 2012
8:08 pm
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Ted Striker
July 9th, 2012
8:10 pm
After watching a drunken Coach Dooley groping a coed (skysuite hostess) in the elevators at the south tower skysuites the year before Michael Adams declined to renew his contract, I don’t give a tinkers damn what he says. Coach Dooley was a good coach and administrator however he needs to get off his high horse.
Richt, not Tebow, is Jesus
July 9th, 2012
8:17 pm
Coach gave this young man an opportunity to live his life for Christ and play for the University of Georgia and he rejected both therefore he may burn in hell everlasting while Coach continues to win National Championships!
Gotta go
July 9th, 2012
8:31 pm
Why does the Ajc keep mentioning a linebacker who never played as if he was a key player? Regardless, I am a huge Uga fan who knows this year will be just like 2008…disappointing.
WestOfAthens
July 9th, 2012
8:32 pm
I respect the Man, and i respect his opinion.
Looking forward to what 2012 brings, as mysterious as it may be.
HBTD
WestOfAthens
July 9th, 2012
8:38 pm
“huge Uga fan”
It’s “UGA”, and if you were a “huge fan” you would show support, or at the least optimism, and lack effot on criticism.
Go Dawgs, Thrive
gbal
July 9th, 2012
8:40 pm
Hoping this is a great season no doubt… as always.
But note…. The press is who is giving UGA thes lofty expectations for this season……
The same press will be bashem UGA if they do not meet these espectations.
Will they crtitize themselves for making stupid predictions??? NO.
DO you hear anyone from UGA making these high predictions? NO
Expect a good season and hope for some luck like in 80. But too many holes to fill this year to expect or predict a NC.
UGA Attracts So Much Attention...You Guys Are Obsessed
July 9th, 2012
8:41 pm
To every fan of the opposition, bow down and worship the Dawgs! You know it. You obsess with our program. Our State. Our City…Athens/Atlanta. Our academic ascension. 11th all time in NCAA Division I wins. #1 SEC with NFL players past 11 years. Best campus. Best stadium (not loudest; think Masters (prettiest)). Best city (Athens). Prettiest coeds. Best Logo. Best colors. Best of everything.
Keep obsessing!
Joesnopy
July 9th, 2012
8:42 pm
I said when it first happen UGA was wrong but after thinking about the boy having the three freshmen in the car UGA had to kick him off the team. He understood that rule. The gun thing in Georgia does not worry me as much as having the freshmen in the car. I mean it is legal to have a gun in Georgia. BAD APPLE just like Dooley said. He was on his way spoiling those freshmen. He has to start leading one day. Hope it is soon.
Laughing out Loud
July 9th, 2012
8:44 pm
@ LGrange1975, IC is still innocent until proven guilty in the court system which is yet to be played out. One of the possibilities is that he pleads guilty in the court of law and ends up with only probation. That is the court of law and the way it works in this country, not on this blog. However, IC’s dismissal from the UGA football team is not dependent on his guilt or innocence in the court system. His dismissal from the football program and the university is an entirely different matter and has entirely different considerations. I’ve read comments on this blog regarding Coach Richt blaming him for being to easy going or compassionate in the handling of football players indisgressions. The Coach is the last one throwing a young man under the bus. Yet, when one is dismissed he is criticize for doing so. I personally think the Coach and the University did the right thing with regards to IC for all the reasons they had. However. IC has not faced the court of law yet, only the University program and the Court of Public Opinion. I’m one to allow the leadership of an institution to do their job for I think generally they are professional and do an outstanding job. Although, there are sometimes “bad apples” among the coaches ie Sandusky and that bunch who conspired to cover up criminal behaviour. Georgia is fortunate to have men of integrity at the helm. Proud to be a Bulldog fan even though I graduated from a small liberal arts, Christian college in Tennessee. Just my opinion.
Lizard-King Dawg
July 9th, 2012
8:46 pm
If you lay down with the dogs…. you bound to get some fleas… ba-buy I-ay-ah
flying tiger
July 9th, 2012
8:52 pm
How hypocritcal. uga recruits, pursues, gives these kids everything and fosters some and I said some of this attitude and then when a IC pulls a stunt like this then they pounce on him…they enjoy eating their own. Dooley needs to shut up.. If Richt was the “great” man most of you claim, he would quit bowing to the pressures of this world and stop recruiting alot of the thuigs and riff raff he seems to have had over the years. Look if that is what you want go ahead fine by me, but don’t tell me what a fine fine man he is when he keeps giving schlorships to alot of the guys like IC that he does. Quit being such a hypocrite.
Laughing out Loud
July 9th, 2012
8:55 pm
@ “Richt, not Tebow, is Jesus” what a foolish statement. Surely you can do better than scarcasticly comment on something you know so little about. You “name” and comment reveal your ignorance.
BruceW1978UGA
July 9th, 2012
9:07 pm
One loser here – if he’s still alive is D. Loyd. Looks like he played 10 plus years in the NFL – has probably long since sowed any wrong oaks – now Vince decides to call him out 50 years later. I’m sure he and his family are thrilled.
They knew
July 9th, 2012
9:12 pm
Georgia knew the kid was a P I T A when they were recruiting him, so Georgia got what they recruited… a bum. Next.
Fan of the Game
July 9th, 2012
9:14 pm
The integrity of college football is really suffering. Clemson recruit supposedly said he would sign if Clemson would offer his teammate. It is about give me, give me and give me by these recruits. A monster has been created with this new culture and it is alot like society. It is all about what can you give me with alot of these recruits.
guy
July 9th, 2012
9:18 pm
Dooley saying playing I.C. only in the second half might have been a good idea is a bunch of bull. He should never put his two cents in about things he is too far in the past to understand.
Russ, the Temporary Mascot
July 9th, 2012
9:19 pm
What’s Wrong with This? A photo of Coach Dooley and this headline just below: “Dooley Weighs in on Crowell” “Could Face Prison” Even I know better than that and I am just a little dog.
olddawginsanjose
July 9th, 2012
9:21 pm
Was Crowell given multiple opportunities to step up and be counted as dependable? I think so. Was he driving with several freshmen recruits when stopped? I think so. In my opinion Dooley is spot on in his assessment of IC being the bad apple which starts the spoilage in the barrel. I agree with both VD and CMR. He had to go.
m
July 9th, 2012
9:23 pm
why you be hating on IC?
JB
July 9th, 2012
9:24 pm
Many many regulars on here predicted as the season unfolded last year that Crowell would be a short timer in Athens. Many saw this coming a mile away.Didn’t like work or contact.
Steamer Lane Bulldog
July 9th, 2012
9:31 pm
I am ready to move on from the IC story. The O lines performance will make or break the 2012 season. The Bulldogs have plenty of depth, at TB.
dbc
July 9th, 2012
9:41 pm
Just saw a replay of the 2011 UGA vs. SC game on ESPN U. Still trying to figure out how they lost that game. Murray, Richt and that 4th quarter swiss cheese defense should still be running stadium steps.
bitter spoiled recruit
July 9th, 2012
9:48 pm
thanks coach dooly for telling the truth—-the fragil young generation hood hate to here
anything that points to them being acountable for there bad behavour
——————ole school—put that in your pipe—–SPOILED YOUNG PUNKS
Mak
July 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
Class is not a word that describes UGA football and their low standards. The Hurricans of this decade
JaxStateAlum
July 9th, 2012
10:01 pm
LaGrange1975 I bet you feel the Same about Tra Blackmon!!!! What happened to him… He wasn’t treated fairly either huh???
Dawg Bite
July 9th, 2012
10:14 pm
Who gives a rats arse what Dooley says. One of the most embarrassing things to happen to the University of Georgia happened on his watch. He should have gone back to API back in 1980, and saved us the abuse we took because of his sleazy program. Thank goodness for Jan Kemp to come forth with what she did! As far as his coaching ability, without HW, Dooley would have had zero National titles. Yes, he did win some SEC titles or shared them, but never had to face Bama during most of his tenure. His bowl record was dismal as well.
gbal
July 9th, 2012
10:18 pm
Lookin for four TB’s to poor it on when camp opens to earn play time…. SOmeone set the bar nad run…. Will make all others better.
DawgNole
July 9th, 2012
10:21 pm
Swamp Thing
July 9th, 2012
4:02 pm
Beast From the East – How I remember those days and T-Shirts that your name comes from. As a 28 year season ticket holder, I know the conference determines the schedules – usually 5 or so years in advance – but with Mizzou and Texas A & M coming in the SEC, schedules were quickly changed..UGA has a great influence in the SEC, and how BAMA was gone (haven’t played them in 3 years) and Missouri was scheduled makes me wonder why OLE MISS wasn’t dropped.
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It’s been explained to you repeatedly, dope–even by one of your fellow gators (”Beast”). No SEC team has any say in its conference schedule. Only the conference itself determines the schedules of its teams.
So let it go already. You sound dumber with every post.
Rick James
July 9th, 2012
10:27 pm
@GTBob
No, Tech has very little chance this season. UGA’s problems aren’t enough to drag them down to Tech’s level, they are just bad enough to keep UGA from ever jumping to a championship level
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You never elaborate on UGA’s problems..Tell us what they are.Maybe one of the coaches will read this blog and pass your solutions along..Better yet, why dont you take a one dollar a year consulting job with Tech and get them on track..There has to be a market other AJC blogs for all of your knowledge..
leave it to a dimwit like dmr
July 9th, 2012
10:33 pm
to bring up politics in on a sports blog in the hopes that mentioning the word liberal raises his iq with the rest of the bloggers.
sorry dmr but it didnt work. your still stupid.
Rick James
July 9th, 2012
10:36 pm
@GTBob
One is already gone. He flunked out of school right after Crowell was dismissed. Nothing fishy about that at all.
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My understanding was that the other kids in the car were incoming freshman..How can anybody flunk out if they have not started clasess? Name Please..
What the....
July 9th, 2012
10:42 pm
6 SECs and 1 NC in 25 years??? Had it not been for Herschel, he wouldn’t have the NC and any SECs they won while he was here. Was the beau to lindsay lucky ass play during that time or right before?
What a low bar this school has always had when it comes to football…..Roll Tide and our accounting program is, or was better too.
What the....
July 9th, 2012
10:49 pm
Herchel was the funnest (yeah, so) ever to watch. He would lower that head right on impact. Bill Bates still is wondering what hit him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nc2XsimM90
Cobb Dawg
July 9th, 2012
10:49 pm
As long as we’re recruiting players who are generally from single-parent homes (no dad), this problem will continue. I heard the quote about his mom saying that she only wanted to talk to God. Where’s OC’s dad? 75% of black kids are born to single-parent (no dad) homes. Until this trend reverses, we’ll continue to have much bigger problems in this country than losing a football player. We’ll continue to have the largest population on inmates in the world, the highest crime rates, one of the highest illiteracy rates, etc. Black men need to change their ways.
Jack
July 9th, 2012
10:53 pm
Every bridge needs a bum living under it. Crowell will find his one day.
Mobile Dawg
July 9th, 2012
11:19 pm
IC would be well served to join the Marines, the discipline would serve him well. Those thinking they are above the team are the weak links. I think it goes back to the lack of “strong” leadership of this team.
Dawgsfan
July 9th, 2012
11:21 pm
The first term Dooley probably used was “N*G**R”
Pitchitfield
July 9th, 2012
11:30 pm
Marvin probably believes IC was predestined to be kicked off the team…idiot
Observer
July 9th, 2012
11:53 pm
Could be mistaken, but if DAve Lloyd was on the 1959 team, he wasn’t the best player…..by a long shot.
THAT WOULD BE ONE…….FRANCIS TARKENTON.
Observer
July 9th, 2012
11:55 pm
FRANCES TARKENTON
Von Trapp
July 10th, 2012
12:04 am
Refreshing to hear Vince Dooley give his insight on Crowell. The guy was flat stinkin the team spirit. Team concept was not what IC was about. Good riddance to the brother
blazerdawg
July 10th, 2012
12:07 am
to some earlier comments by lagrange1975 about kids being wild in college and just having fun. yes, we all had fun in college and did things we wouldn’t do in front of a police officer. however, we were not all carrying a weapon that has been altered in such a way as to not be detectable after committing a crime. not saying that IC had any plans to commit a crime, but you just can’t have an untraceable gun. and as far as the gun “being left in the car” by the previous occupant, crowell is an adult. it is his responsibility to know the contents of a vehicle that is in his possession
whiskey breath
July 10th, 2012
12:15 am
Go ahead and pile on the kid bulldykes. The kid would not have been in this mess
If he would have gone to bama. Saban would have provided structure and discipline.
tide roll
July 10th, 2012
12:31 am
What an effin racist. That a-hole has done more to destroy UGA football than a nuclear war mistle.
tide roll
July 10th, 2012
12:32 am
missile
Dog Days Behind Us...Dawg Days Ahead!
July 10th, 2012
12:37 am
Uga was gonna go undefeated with or without IC…good luck to him…he has got the talet and needs to find the right attitude.
Cobb Dawg
July 10th, 2012
12:49 am
tide roll, don’t you have a trailer to get home to (surely you don’t have internet in your mobile home) We don’t really give a “crap” what some inbred from Alabammer thinks about UGA. We’re not just a football team with a second-rate technical school attached like Alabammer or Awbarn.
what of it?
July 10th, 2012
1:08 am
was the first term energy vampire? it was, wasn’t it
I think the best thing that could have happened would have been not wasting to effort on the recruit in the first place
Jimmy
July 10th, 2012
1:23 am
I bet the word Dooley used was dumb***
zeke
July 10th, 2012
2:02 am
UGA might win the East, but, they will not win at The BRICE!! Lattimore will once again run all over you bums!!!
Födelsedagspresent
July 10th, 2012
2:41 am
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nobody
July 10th, 2012
5:44 am
Reckon how incarceration might affect his performance.?..
chicken boy
July 10th, 2012
5:44 am
hmm—yes we all know Richt has character evalutation issues——he is picking all the wrong players———-the other problem is—the players get to UGA and see that there is a good chance with the game plans they produce for the players—-winning is a hard nut to crack——so players get discourged quickly and then of course the NFL thing is there————-Sometimes I have wondered if they should leave college totally separate from the NFL. Let players go to the NFL without going to college. They dont even need to go to school—what is the deal man———————what a circus!!
bitter "spoiled recruit"
July 10th, 2012
5:55 am
good job vince————————-hershal should should have run over crow, show him the proper way a dawg running back runs——————–like boo and samual—-hard up the middle
good luck coach dooly—————————-great writing chip
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BobbyDawg
July 10th, 2012
6:06 am
Running backs like Hershel Walker and Knowshon Moreno don’t come along that often. Crowell doesn’t even come close to these guys. They came to play the WHOLE game. GO DAWGS !
tenn.DAWG
July 10th, 2012
6:17 am
IC was no different than DaRick is here at utk, very talented,but has become a big distraction.Sometimes you have no choice but to cull them out.
BobDawg
July 10th, 2012
6:35 am
LAGRANGE1975…. Dude, remember Sylvester Boler during your years??? Fired a gun and was kicked off the team by Dooley also… Starting MLB…..IC needed to go… I’m more worried about the Frosh who were in the car with him… Hope they were scared straight…
BobDawg
July 10th, 2012
6:37 am
LAGRANGE 1975.. I read your comments from the 1st page and remember the ol gun incident with Mr Boler in the 70’s??? Yeah, fired a gun around the jock dorm and was kicked off the team….. Starting MLB… stuff happens like this and you have to “weed” the bad ones out!
Rock
July 10th, 2012
7:08 am
Ok…..Isaiah Crowell may have been a troubled kid in certain ways and he will not be the last. I believe in desipline for doing the wrong thing, especially in a team environment. But as a coach or even a AD, don’t sit their and slam a troubled student that is or was going through something. That guy, bad apple! Yes Coach Dooley, you have a good history @ UGA and you should know better then to slam a troubled student in the media. Your tenure doesn’t give you the right to just say or do as you please. Lead by example and show fellow student athletes how it should be done. Is this to much to ask for? Just my opinion.
phil
July 10th, 2012
7:09 am
Get a life people….
Yolodohu
July 10th, 2012
7:19 am
I am surprised, (but should I be?) that a man, who made his living “coaching” young men, would weigh in with such negative thoughts on a troubled young man. Judge not that ye be judged. If the coach could not have found anything nice to say, then be quiet. Leaders know better.
mike
July 10th, 2012
7:43 am
Word has it that the reason Crowell always seemed to take himself out of games every three or four plays is that he couldn’t catch his breath. He’s a cigarette smoker and you just can’t smoke and play football at that level.
Evanston
July 10th, 2012
7:47 am
Keep in mind that this is the same Vince Dooley who caused Jan Kemp to be fired when she exposed Dooley’s “Remedial Studies,” where athletes could play for UGA for four years while never passing a single college course.
The old fart literally oozes slime.
Taylor Wooten
July 10th, 2012
7:48 am
Nice spin….guess it makes Bulldog fans feel better.
Remember now….we were being told just a month or two ago how great Crowell was going to be, that he was really committed to being a good Bulldog, had really turned over a new leaf, yada yada yada.
The Bulldog Athletic program is so full of propaganda, spin, etc. Got to get those donations coming in.
GT
July 10th, 2012
7:53 am
I love Dooley, but he is leaving one part of this equation out of the formula. Georgia loses someone every year, if that was a real theory they would be Alabama. I think if Dooley was still coaching this same group with Erk on defense they would be Alabama. They got the talent but have very immature ooaches who think showing up looking good getting off the bus or highlight films are more important than winning.
Email Profiling Is Wrong
July 10th, 2012
7:56 am
I’d like to see college football (D1) institute a comprehensive oversight program for incoming freshman. They need a strictly-supervised and regimented routine where their daily on campus activities – in season and off – are laid out for them. This is when you get up, this is when you go to bed, this is what you do in the time in between.
They need a mentor/chaperone/daddy/drill sergeant watching their every move and telling them what to do. Outside of training, practice and games, they need to stay away from upper classmen/teammates – at least until the upperclassmen are graduates of this new freshman oversight program.
Too many young men coming in as big-time recruits don’t pack the gear to make sound judgements about non-football related issues.
If a kid is willing to commit armed robbery or assault a woman, or burglarize dorm rooms, this program won’t help.
But if it keeps numb-nut 18 year olds from smoking dope, driving drunk, driving without a license, driving with a license under suspension, driving without insurance and getting in scuffles in bars, then it could be worth it. The football program retains a valued recruit, the recruit gains some valuable discipline and the police blotter is refreshingly void of arrests involving football players.
It’s all well and good to offer a kid the opportunity to play SEC football (for example) and (wink-wink) get an education. But it’s all-to-often a crap-shoot as to whether that same kid comes in with the maturity and attitude and basic skill set to take advantage of what his athletic talents have made available to him.
Occasional lectures on the pitfalls of straying from the rules clearly isn’t enough. The guys who don’t need to hear it, don’t need to hear it. The ones who do, need to live it 24/7/365.
Delbert D.
July 10th, 2012
7:59 am
Part of the problem is that juvenile records are sealed. Can’t do much of a background check.
Go Jackets
July 10th, 2012
8:08 am
EVERYONE needs to go on Facebook and look up the response to Washingtons facebook rant by Bobby Nettles called “the Entitled diaries”. Kind of puts things in perspective. BTW Dooley IS a class act and well respected on the Flats!
Obama Sin Laden
July 10th, 2012
8:12 am
dit…the same reason politicians call one another names
GT
July 10th, 2012
8:14 am
I bet if Richt went to the Athens Police and said I need a heads up on some of these guys he would get it. That force would probably love a little less excitment.
Fair and Balanced
July 10th, 2012
8:23 am
I’m just glad he is gone. Lets stop talking about him. Move on. We have games to win. Lets get behind this team and have a good time pulling them through to a good season.
Vince Dooley: losing Crowell was ‘the best thing’ for UGA | CollegeFootballTalk
July 10th, 2012
8:30 am
[...] don’t want to put any pressure on them, but losing that guy may have been the best thing to happen to them,” former UGA coach and athletic director Vince Dooley told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. [...]
GT
July 10th, 2012
8:31 am
One other thing this is why Dooley was a better athletic director. People in Athens would come to him with information and he would know how to handle these kids. Bobby Dodd could do the same thing and had community support. They were high school principals on steroids and when you got call into the office it was not fun. This innate intelligence about them is what is different from Rich who is like some worn out space cadet who players and assistant coaches recognize they can play. Bear had that same street sense, like Marlon Brando, in Godfather. You wouldn’t dream of gaming those guys.
BD
July 10th, 2012
8:56 am
The almighty Vince Dooley has spoken. His opinion is the ultimate truth. Just to be in his presence and hear his voice is the most wonderful thing ever. Everyone should aspire to be like him and gain a fulfilling life courtesy of the sweat of others.
Carly
July 10th, 2012
9:11 am
Another felon escapes the Clarke County Jail!!!!
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
9:17 am
That was some really useless prose…
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
9:20 am
They finally let your mom outa jail???
Vince
July 10th, 2012
9:40 am
Coach Dooley knows how to handle young men. His wisdom concerning the human psyche is quite amazing. Wish he were still AD..GO DAWGS
Ray
July 10th, 2012
9:40 am
Yep Georgia is not winning no National Championship games this year or next year.
Not against the like of Alabama, LSU, or South Carolina.
Why because Offense defense wins championships, but if you don’t even have a good offense it won’t matter cause you won’t be seeing the National Championship.
Book it Lose to Mizzou and South Carolina throw in a loss at to Vanderbilt with that too.
UGA Fun THIS weekend
July 10th, 2012
9:41 am
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When: July 14th 3pm – 6 pm
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Ray
July 10th, 2012
9:42 am
Plus for the love of all that is holy go get us a Head Coach that is at least Feared you know.
I still feel like that’s Mark Richt’s biggest problem toooooo DAMN NICE!
When people look at Nick Saban say what you will, but those players fear him or he strikes fear in them, and he never smiles.
Ray
July 10th, 2012
9:43 am
Aaron Murray still isn’t a great QB got exposed by Boise and LSU mostly.
LogicalUS
July 10th, 2012
9:47 am
Not the greatest logic there , Vince.
For that thinking now if only UGA could lose Murray, Jenkins and Mitchell they would really be ready to roll.
Look
RxDawg
July 10th, 2012
9:50 am
Heck of an article Chip. I sure would like to know what that first term was lol. Guess I can use my imagination for that one. It looks like Dooley still keeps up with the team regularly. Good for him. This is also the first article I’ve read that actually makes me feel a little bit better about losing Crowell.
LogicalUS
July 10th, 2012
9:56 am
Not very convincing spin there Vince.
Following that “logic” now if UGA could just lose Murray, Jenkins, & Mitchell they would really be ready to roll.
Look Crowell was undependable and lazy but he was UGAs only SEC quality option at RB for 2012. So UGA is back at square one…no dependable running game putting more pressure on the interception machine QB, Aaron Murray, to force the passing game. That will lead to the same as last season with periods of 3 and outs each game which will lead to more second half collapses by Grantham’s defenses.
So UGA will skate by most of the candies on their schedule but will again struggle against any solid teams they play. UGA fans will once again be SEC West fans hoping for someone to knock off SC so they can back into the SECCG.
Since Vince
July 10th, 2012
9:58 am
Now if we could lose Bobo I would feel much much better.
ugab
July 10th, 2012
9:59 am
Dooley makes a great point.. IC needed to go. I wish the best for the young man.. As for Uga winning a NC??? Not likely! New kicking game, No OL, Suspended players. ETC will cost the dawgs several games.. I am still ready for the season to begin.. I hope the offseason workouts are better than all the other crap that is going on.
Homepage | MrSEC
July 10th, 2012
10:01 am
[...] The University of Georgia football team may be hemorrhaging scholarship players — it’s now right at about 70 — but ex-coach Vince Dooley has no problems with one recent, high-profile departure. In fact, Dooley told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution the dismissal of troubled tailback Isaiah Crowell might just be a good thing for the squad as a whole: [...]
old dog
July 10th, 2012
10:05 am
There were character issues (not to be confused with freshman mistakes) from the get-go. He patted his head (to come out) after every decent tackle, pounded his chest after a fair to middlin’ gain on a lesser team, and was disrespectful to fellow players and coaches. Some folks think he will be really great…..he has the talent but CANNOT take contact, something he did not have to do too often in high school. There is a difference between writing off a kid, and finally realizing that you just ain’t brought in a decent fellow…..the latter is applicable. We will move on, and Dooley was right!
Taylor Wooten
July 10th, 2012
10:06 am
Always DRAMA with UGA football…..
Would make a great tv reality show……the REAL Coaches of UGA football.
DirtyDawg
July 10th, 2012
10:17 am
I still say that if those that claim to be ‘leaders’ on this team – like Mr Washington – had stepped up and ‘explained’ to Crowell how he’s supposed to act and deport himself from the ‘get go’ we wouldn’t be going through this now. It’s amazing how throwing a ‘blanket party’ or two can ‘get minds right’. Of course every now and then you get a ‘Private Pyle’ (Full Metal Jacket) response, but that’s a movie, and peer pressure in the right direction can do wonders.
bob from smyrna
July 10th, 2012
10:19 am
Tech fan here, but an admirer of Dooley (and Richt): hope VD is right…would be a good lesson to other “hot dog” players for all teams. I remember when Peyton Manning left the Vols and then they became national champs. Something they didn’t do with that Manning All the other UT players stepped up, and they became the national champions.
Ed
July 10th, 2012
10:28 am
Does anyone really care about UGA or Crowell? I think not. Enough of this useless information.
Tom Dial
July 10th, 2012
10:33 am
Yes, that player booted in 1958 was Dave Lloyd, a great center and linebacker, but a constant 15-yard penalty. He led the universe in penalties and hostility. Just a nasty player. So sophomore Francis Tarkenton comes along and leads the ‘Dogs to the SEC championship and their last trip to the Orange Bowl, where they beat Missouri. Now we’ve got Missouri coming up in game 2 this season, playing their first game at home as an SEC member. Go ‘Dawgs!!!
Wayne
July 10th, 2012
10:39 am
Who cares what that goofy old man thinks? If CMR lost as many games as Dooley did, he would have been run out of town a long time ago.
Wayne
July 10th, 2012
10:41 am
Dooley a good athletic director??? He hired Ray Goff!! Nuff said…
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
10:47 am
Got to love all of these anti UGA posters on a UGA BLOG. I would never think about waking up in the morning, just so I could go make negative post about any other team on their blog site. Same losers all the time with the same complaints and gripes, no matter what the article is about. UGA must scare the trolls pretty bad this year. I’ve never heard so many crybabies in one place since my kids were in day care, lol…
Tap Out
July 10th, 2012
10:49 am
Typical Dooley…..he shows up with his water hose after the fire is out.
Castle Pines Canine
July 10th, 2012
10:54 am
All I can tell you is that like most of the Players kicked off of the UGA team, they get an offer from LSU. Crowell had that offer and was going to be labled “GUNNY BADGER”
DirtyDawg
July 10th, 2012
11:15 am
They go to LSU unless they get outbid by Auburn. And when will be SEC establish a rule that requires all member institutions ‘honor’ another schools’ discipline dismissals with an, at least, two year ban on a dismissed player from enrolling at another SEC school? As it is, it’s just as if the player decided to transfer and only ’sit out’ one season.
mgdawg
July 10th, 2012
11:20 am
For those of you questioning richts recruiting habits, Crowell was the number 1 recruit in the nation. He could’ve gone anywhere he wanted and if richt wouldn’t have recruited him then everyone would have been screaming at richt.
Having said that the kid admittedly was at a bar where people were smoking marijuana, and less then a year ago this same kid failed a drug test. He had a concealed weapon in his car without a license to do so, and the weapon had been altered in a way not to be traceable. These are facts, Crowell may get out of it, but it will be because of technicalities, not because of innosence.
Von Trapp
July 10th, 2012
11:23 am
Richt gave IC more chances than 3 players to get his act together. Maybe NOW IC will realize the sun doesn’t rise up just for HIS arrogant axx. IC can LEARN from this or go sulk. It’s his call now.
Bill
July 10th, 2012
11:29 am
LaGrange, if you can’t stand the heat, get out. This football player made his own luck. Sorry if you think he should skate. I believe I know exactly why you defend him, but won’t bring it up. Again, if you don’t like what you read on here, go some where else where it’s safe…
Tallydawg
July 10th, 2012
11:29 am
Vince Dooley’s record at UGA wouldn’t merit mentioning without the Walker years. Mark Richt’s record, even over the past few years, puts Dooley’s record to shame. And Richt’s seat is still rather warm.
aw
July 10th, 2012
11:30 am
“They go on to having a better season than they were predicted to have.” Dooley
Maybe they will beat Florida or South Carolina this year. (4-18 against UF no back to back wins in 22 years) Spurrier owns UGA Period!
Maybe they will lose a few games and play for the SEC championship and their fans will talk about how they deserve a place in the National Title game. AWESOME!
Chip Towers
July 10th, 2012
11:43 am
RxDawg: Cancer
Chip Towers
July 10th, 2012
11:48 am
GTBob: Quintavious Harrow allegedly lost his academic eligibility the week BEFORE Crowell was arrested. UGA still has not confirmed his departure.
npgator
July 10th, 2012
11:49 am
Georgia is going to break that National Championship streak for the SEC team that sent a guy to Alabama State.
Brainiac(CMR/UGA fan for life)
July 10th, 2012
11:53 am
@ Corkylovesbeer:
IF, IF, IF !!!!!!!!!
If a frog had wings………………………well you know the rest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get a life dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wally was here
July 10th, 2012
11:55 am
I seem to remember kicking a couple of boys off my team for drinking beer–times do change.
I remember when Dodd kicked a player of his team who was within a yard of two of breaking the career rushing record. I seem to recall reading years later that fellow’s saying that was a wake up call for him and was the best thing to happen to help shape the rest of his life. We just never know how things will turn out.
schmeckdawg
July 10th, 2012
11:58 am
It’s real simple folks. Crowell had no heart!!!!!!!
Dooley: Ex-Georgia RB Crowell was ‘bad apple’ - Daily Sports Digest | Daily Sports Digest
July 10th, 2012
12:01 pm
[...] pressure on them, but losing that guy may have been the best thing to happen to them,” Dooley told the newspaper. “It was a bad-apple type thing, if you ask [...]
Brainiac(CMR/UGA fan for life)
July 10th, 2012
12:04 pm
Sic’em King Daddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They know who they are and one would think with all the trolls, etc., the attrition on UGA blogs would include a fairly large number of suicides seeing as playing on here/there/everywhere badmouthing all things UGA is the only thing most seem to have in their pitiful lives!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brainiac(CMR/UGA fan for life)
July 10th, 2012
12:10 pm
@ Wally was here(11:55am post)
Sadly Isaiah Crowell does not appear to have that type of character even deep down inside. He is a tremendous talent and I certainly would like to see him play on Sunday but without some serious soul searching and willpower it ain’t gonna happen
uga76
July 10th, 2012
12:19 pm
for those who wonder why Richt moved on Crowell before a judge and jury ruled on his charges – I have a hunch that due to his previous issues with drugs he was on a probationary plan that included follow up drug testing for any subsequent missteps. the Athletic Department would have certainly had cause to test after learning of his arrest, and if he tested positive that was the last straw – regardless of whether there is some problem with the police charges.
If the others in the car were also tested, and tested positive, we will not know about it because University policy is that this type of information will not be released. If you recall, the only way we knew about Rambo was that the confided in his high school coach who blabbed in to the media!
the kids have to decide – get on the bus or get off and go somewhere else. I believe we will ultimately conclude that Crowell leaving is a positive.
Milton County will happen
July 10th, 2012
12:23 pm
I see the kingdaddy/Brainiac combo/same person poster is at it again. Sad indeed. I’m embarrassed for you.
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
12:27 pm
Brain
I’m bouncing back and forth to recruiting site and the BB story. Did you read all the carping from the SC TROLL with 20 names who keeps saying I’m you? I told him it was a compliment for me but it might make you mad, lol…
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
12:33 pm
Milton
Is this another one of your names We run the least, lol. Check Brain’s post times and then go to the recruit. site, you will see me. I don’t have to pretend to be multiple posters like you numb-nutz…
Milton County will happen
July 10th, 2012
12:35 pm
Whatever.
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
12:46 pm
Milton Whatever,
I posted on the recruitiñg site (ajc)@12:00; 12:01; 12:09 and 12:15—
Maybe you should apologize to Brain. I don’t care what trolls think but always wondered why y’all needed so many blog names Sybill…
Former Georgia Coach: Isaiah Crowell Getting Kicked Off Was the Best Thing for the Bulldogs | FootBasket
July 10th, 2012
12:48 pm
[...] and then kicked off of the Georgia Bulldogs football team, former head coach Vince Dooley told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that doing that may have turned out to be a “blessing in disguise” for [...]
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
12:55 pm
What’s up Milton County?
When you get busted out in a lie or are just plain wrong, all we get is a “whatever”??? Have you no honor or integrity? No credibility or humility??? No sense of what’s wrong or right??? No moral obligation to be a fair poster??? What kind of man are you Whatever???
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
12:57 pm
Milton County
I’m just funning whit ya bro, no big deal…
cdog
July 10th, 2012
1:04 pm
say what you want to but as long as georgia has Aaron “rubber legs” MURRAY AT QUARTERBACK THEY WON”T WIN ANYTHING
Tweety Bird
July 10th, 2012
1:12 pm
In case you’re still undecided about Crowell’s character, just read a few of his tweets:
https://mobile.twitter.com/iSAIAH_RIP_STEV/tweets
The words that come to mind are mindless, stupid, illiterate, selfish, money-hungry, egotistical, jerkoff, and others too numerous go mention.
eaglenationrising
July 10th, 2012
1:13 pm
At what point do logical minds in our state begin to force some accountibility upon Mark Richt. This is a recurring eye soar yo our program. Our Dawgs are movng dangerously close to the Florida State days of Bobby Bowden. With all due respect, all of Georgia’s problems are thrown towards someone else. A few years ago, everything was Willie Martinez’s fault. Last year, as Boise violated us in the Georgia Dome, it was Mike Bobo’s fault. Now, a problematic 19 year old (who had these kind of issues before we signed him) is getting bashed by the top football authority in the State. When does someone hold Richt to the fire? This piling on is GUTLESS!!!
eaglenationrising
July 10th, 2012
1:21 pm
Chip: Would you kindly write an article about how the academic and arrest issues at Georgia mirror that of Florida State? The only difference is the Seminoles won more than our Dawgs under Richt. I know that it is probably not the best thing for your career to simply tell the truth. However, Mark Richt clearly has an issue with recruiting players with poor character, not to mention an inability to secure the best players within our own state. Coach Richt seems like a good man and his winning percentage is challenging to refute. However, the character issues on his team are alarming. If Ohio State can move past John Cooper (who won much more than Mark Richt), we should at least hold Richt to some level of accountibility. Instead, we bash assistants and teenage players. Interesting.
shape shifter
July 10th, 2012
1:24 pm
Just another sec player in trouble what’s new for all we know the sec goes to the state pen’s to get their players.
GT fan
July 10th, 2012
1:31 pm
“It was a bad-apple type thing, if you ask me.”
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Unfortunately Mr. Dooley, IC was/isn’t the only ‘bad apple’ on the UGA roster. I think it’s GREAT that IC got booted. Maybe, just maybe, it’ll open the eyes of the ‘bad apples’ still on the roster. I don’t feel bad at all for IC … he had everything in his favor, and he blew it.
How many of us former prep/high school athletes would have like to of had IC’s football talent/skills!?
GT fan
July 10th, 2012
1:36 pm
Right on eaglenationrising!
I’ve been saying the same stuff for the past 3-4 years …. doesn’t UGA have overwhelming similar “problems” under MR that FSU had when MR was on their staff????
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Didn’t Jim & Tammy Faye Baker hide under the religious cloth too?
Things that make you same hmmmm …….
cdog
July 10th, 2012
1:36 pm
RITCH CAN’T BE WITH HIS PLAYERS 24/7.IT’S OUR SOCIETY AS THE BIBLE PREDICTED.THE LAW WON’T LET PARENTS RAISE CHILDREN RIGHT WITH AN IRON ROD(BEATING ON BEHINDS) PLUS, MOST PARENTS ARE NOT DISCPLINE SO HOW CAN THEY DISCIPLINE THEIR CHILDREN.THEY ARE PARTYING AND DOING DRUGS MORER THAN THE CHILDREN SO THE COACH CAN’T BE HELD RESPONSIBLE.ITS THIS WORLD SYSTEM THAT CATERS TO CHILDREN TO DO WRONG.
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
1:36 pm
Eagle
OK let’s say you’re right, al
L the bad is CMRs fault. Doesn’t that mean that all the good is his doing also? 10 straight wins and an SECe championship?
BTW, seeing as we have about 70 scholorship players now, who should CMR get rid of next to stop the cancer? You going to do a pre-emptive strike before they get suspended or arrested? Well, who’s next? Who does Richt get rid of now. I wonder if CMR gave IC that gun to protect himself with? Maybe Coach Richt rolled him and those recruits a big fatty right befoore they went on the tttown? Who’s next Eagle
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
1:42 pm
Eaglenation
The fact that GTFan agrees with you should tell you something. He rarely says anything nice or constructive about UGA…
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
1:49 pm
To me, a MUCH more dangerous “bad apple” to the team, isn’t a guy who doesn’t show up for a punishment run, it’s a guy who feels ENTITLED, that he will continue to START and PLAY EVERY GAME, regardless of how he performs. When that CULTURE PERMEATES YOUR TEAM FROM THE LEADER DOWN, you’re sunk. A guy who has never beat out his teammates for his starting position. A guy who got his starting position by DEFAULT after Richt made his challengers so miserable, they transferred (Gray & Mett were both Elite 11 Qb’s).
Aaron Murray will never be benched, regardless of anything, on, or off, the field that he does. It’s just the way it is. The Jets do the same with Mark Sanchez. That ENTITLEMENT culture that Richt has BRED, like continuing to start Crowell after his 2 run ins, like giving Samuel more carries than Thomas even though Thomas had almost a 2x better run per carry, like leaving Murray in after 3 turnovers, is TEARING THIS TEAM APART. At UGA, you don’t EARN more playing time. It’s not a MERITOCRACY, it’s an ENTITLEMENT CULTURE RAN AMUK.
IS UGA A MERITOCRACY OR A CULTURE OF ENTITLEMENT?
Ask Mettenberger
ask Gray
ask Ealey
ask Thomas
ask Mason
ask Lemay
they’ll all say the same thing.
Tenaciousdx
July 10th, 2012
1:50 pm
It might be his first offense but I doubt it will be his last
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
1:51 pm
Cdog
you can discipline children without an “iron rod”. All children and families are different. I hope I never see anyone pull out an iron rod to use on a child. You are right about a lack of discipline and moral character in our kids. More times than not, its a result of low family supervision…
cdog
July 10th, 2012
2:01 pm
kingsdaddy, thats just an expression.iron rod means stern discipline.being firm but fair. the parent has to be in control not the child discipline.never said to use an actual iron rod.read your bible and use common sense.even though some might need an iron rod for real-smile. too many parents give children control. they are just children and have to grow. parents should be grown enough to direct a child in the way they should go but as i said, plenty are worst than the child and need discipline themselves
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
2:04 pm
TrickDawg
How many QBs are being touted for the Heisman this year by the sports media besides Murray?
How many QBs threw for over 3149 yards and 35 TDs?
UGA lost to 4 really good teams last year and could have won two of those.
LeMay will get his shot. Samuel deserves your respect and the bones UGA throws him.
UGA will recover and us fans have to hold it togeather for the team, bro.
Go Dawgs…
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
2:07 pm
Cdog
I’m a Preacher’s Kid, so I understand brother…
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
2:17 pm
Why did Richt start Terishinski over Stafford or Samuel over Thomas? Loyatly, team sacrifices? I don’t know, it wasn’t though because they earned it.
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
2:20 pm
Murray does have some impressive stats compiled in large part against unranked teams, but Murray has never beat out his other QB’s over the Sprimg scrimmages. Murray has never beat a team with more than 8 wins. This is a TEAM sport, I don’t care how many yards and td’s Murray throws against the New Mexico States, how many wins does murray have against the LSU, Mich St, SC, Boise, and so on.
Murray has never won a game against a team with more than 8 wins. In 2 seasons.
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
2:28 pm
Trick
you have the right to your opine, but can you imagine trying to make 80+ kids happy, lol. How about you? Have you ever made a mistake? What if your life was on a TV CHANNEL and a COUPLE-HUNDRED THOUSAND Fans were second guessing every decision you’ve made in the last decade? Think you could make the cut? I know I couldn’t, that’s why I am trying to be patient and understanding. I want to win too, that’s why I’m talking to you and not arguing with you…
LaGrange1975
July 10th, 2012
2:33 pm
@Bill, Read my comments and come again. You know why I posted what I posted? Really? Also, I can take as much heat as the next guy, but I am also educated enough to debate without throwing insults to make my point as some has chosen to do so. Sad part is, some on here blast these kids for their behavior on twitter and other social media. One thing I can say about them (even though I think they shouldn’t) at least they are bold enough to post with their real names and not hide behind their screen names as some own this forum do. As my daughter says “IJS.”
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
2:43 pm
If I were in charge, I would notice how the TEAM does when the QB is playing that game. If you have a guy like Murray, who fell apart in the 3rd quarter in the LSU game, you have to be able to look at Murray’s effect on the TEAM, on the defense, special teams, and offense, and say, you know what, right now, Murray needs to sit, defense is getting a short field or docked 6 points for pick 6’s–they are losing heart, o-line is putting hands on hips at all the sacks, backs arn’t running well because we’re not hitting on the deep pass, kicker is missing field goals because we can’t get close enough, punt returners are getting good looks because we have too many 3 and outs, bottom ine, point spread is trending extreme negative right now the more Murray touches the ball, time for Mason (or Lemay).
You’re looking for team chemistry, during the game, what combination of players increase the point spread, and which ones tend to skrink it in big games?
bitter spoiled recruit
July 10th, 2012
2:50 pm
Coach dooly won 6 SEC CHAMPIONSHIPS AND 3 NATIONAL TITLE’S in 21 years as HEAD COACH at UGA. All the while competeing against the greatest Coach, Coach paul from BAMMA
6 OUT OF 21 AGAINST PAUL –AKA–BEAR BRYANT, was the best of any other team in the SEC.
Coach Dooly is loved by all true DAWG FANS—-kingdaddy is spot on when he is confussed
about all the haters who cant wait every mourning to vent there vial spew about a program trying
to operate with integrety–honesty—honor
TDawg
July 10th, 2012
2:51 pm
Good luck IC but it was time to go. Dooley is a class guy and CMR is an even more class guy. Wish all of our guys acted right but most of these guys got put on a pedestal before they got to Athens. GT has less problems cause their players aren’t very good, simple as that.
bitter spoiled recruit
July 10th, 2012
2:53 pm
the reason I stated 3 national title’s,,in referance too bamma counting 14 N.C.
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
3:00 pm
Hate to prove the ole Coach Dooley wrong, but on this 4th quarter thing running back thing, Washaun Ealey averaged 6.6 yards per carry in the 4th quarter in 2010, and the team went 6-7, so Dooley’s theory about having a great 4th quarter running back didn’t work, because Ealey was rested, from rotating with Caleb King and Thomas, but, in fact, it led to Richt’s worst year in over 20 years of coaching.
We already tested Dooley’s theory, and it led to Richt’s worst year in his career.
Let’s try something else, like having a QB who doesn’t turn the ball over 20 times a season and get sacked 30+ times per year.
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
3:10 pm
Bitter
Son, if you ain’t nothing else, you’re ADGD! GOD LOVE YA…
Milton County will happen
July 10th, 2012
3:23 pm
Dooley’s comments will be used by other schools to turn kids away from UGA. Appeals to the red-neck fanbase; not so much to the urban athlete.
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
3:44 pm
Milton County
That’s really too bad for the uncompromising, isn’t it? If they are that much of a hood-rat, we don’t need them. Coach Dooley isn’t a racist and neither is THE UGA! If you see any colors other than RED & BLACK, PLEASE DON’T COME TO UGA…
kingdaddy
July 10th, 2012
3:59 pm
Milton county
You know any “black” red-necks, I do. I also know several “white” hood-rats. Urban, rural, smalltown, bigtown: the question is, are they football players, not can I get along with the rednecks. If you can’t get along then you dont belong. You worry about B.S…
Milton County will happen
July 10th, 2012
4:09 pm
Settle down kingdaddy. Your Brainiac side is showing.
pcb mike
July 10th, 2012
4:20 pm
UGA gets to reunite quite a bit, don’t they? When it comes to kicking criminals off the team, the Athletic Department gets in more kicking than their place kicker.
PonGT
July 10th, 2012
4:26 pm
Dooley also had a bad apple from the Augusta area that was supposed to be all world, but was eventually dismissed from the team for weapons violations. YES, he did always have a great football mind, and Yes he also knew when to oust the bad apples.
old dog
July 10th, 2012
4:47 pm
@TrickDawg,
If we could get an o-line that was SEC worthy, our QB would look much better……..other teams finally figure out that we can be beat there (the good teams figure it out, anyway) so they stack it up and physically whoop us up front. QB spends 1/2 the time running for his life, and there is NO run game to help….
mambo
July 10th, 2012
6:34 pm
This is why Vince is the man. He knows football players and football. Hope Mark is smart enough to learn from this genius.
Terrible Truth
July 10th, 2012
6:40 pm
When it came out that three of the four passengers with him that night were incoming freshman, I wanted him gone then and there.
Tweety Bird
July 10th, 2012
6:41 pm
We’ve selected this gem as “Crowell’s Tweet of the Day”:
Isaiah Crowell @iSAIAH_RIP_STEV 5h
@LetMe_Csum nig wit a bankroll get da fine h**s
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
6:43 pm
The running game feeds off the deep pass in the Pro Style offense. Teams tend to stack that box with 8 or 9 strong when your QB is no long ball threat, like LSU did, turns into a 1 dimensional type of offense, and that just shuts down the run game. I think Murray completed 39% and had no long passes against LSU, missed on every throw. Hopefully Murray can get that number up to 70% like the Elite QB’s instead of 39%, or else Mason or Lemay can see if they can soften the defenses up by completing more deep or mid range passes. Unfortunately, Murray’s habit are established now, so that’s why Murray’s accuracy didn’t improve in 2011, and that’s why he threw 75% more interceptions in 2011 than 2010, habits are tough to change, and Murray has shown no ability to reverse bad habits. Who knows, a miracle could happen and Murray could wake up and forget about the 2 year habits he has created. But I doubt it.
Aisle #1
July 10th, 2012
6:46 pm
“When it came out that three of the four passengers with him that night were incoming freshman, I wanted him gone then and there.”
It’s simple enough to understand. He had his homeboys in Columbus, and he needed homeboys in Athens. Where else to get them except on the team.
But yes, I think that scared the daylights out of CMR, thinking that Crowell was forming his gang from incoming freshmen.
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
6:49 pm
The o-line blocked great for Hutson Mason, he has never been sacked. Perhaps Murray’s ICE AGE slow deicision making MIGHT be a reason why sacks have doubled vs. Cox/Stafford who both averaged 12-15 sacks per season. Murray’s averaged 29 sacks per season. Mason, with the same o-line, has never been sacked.
Bill T.
July 10th, 2012
6:50 pm
@TrickDawg: Staying with Reggie Ball got Chan Gailey fired. Staying with Aaron Murray for two more years will have the same result for Mark Richt.
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
6:50 pm
The NFL drafted 3 o linemen this year, even though UGA gave up 33 sacks, NFL kind of agreed with me, it’s not the o-line, it’s the QB.
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
7:18 pm
I charted the 2012 G-Day game.
Here’s how the offenses finished with each UGA QB:
1) Mason, +18 points when he led them (2 td’s, 2 pt conv, field goal)
2) Lemay, +16 (2 td’s, 1 field goal, missed 2 pt conv)
3) Murray, +14 (2 td’s)
Lemay has also shown poise now, leading td drives in the last 2 minutes of the G-Day spring game in 2010 & 2011. That’s impressive.
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
7:36 pm
You can’t blame LSU’s pass defense for Murray’s poor performance in that game.
9 different Qb’s in 2012, completed 55% or more against LSU.
Murray hit on 39%.
z-man
July 10th, 2012
8:16 pm
I know one thing for sure all the bad things that go on at Georgia they do it at bama also.The fans and coaches are so insane at this program that you can slap their mother and you will never hear about it.
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
9:42 pm
Team chemistry = point spread/scoring margin
Whichever guys can max out the scoring margin, those are your guys.
I can guarantee you, by that standard, Aaron Murray would not be starting.
Murray’s pretty much a scoring margin nightmare.
Team chemistry, it’s not complicated.
TY
July 10th, 2012
10:00 pm
Dooley is correct about the backs and being fresh in the fourth quarter. Bobo has probably not considered that because the backs in the past have been rotated so much in the early parts of the game they never had a rhythm to really get tired or to get stronger in the end as did Herschel. Rotation of backs or anyone is never good for the sake of just doing it. You have to have a plan..The way Richt and Bobo use backs and QB’s is not the best in the world.
DawgNole
July 10th, 2012
10:03 pm
ozzfest
July 9th, 2012
3:09 pm
Imagine how GEORGIA would have dominated the 70’s and 80’s IF “bad apple” and “offensive bozo” Vince Dooley had not been the coach. Take away 1980, 1981, and 1982 and Dooley’s winning % was less than JIM DONNAN’S while at UGA.
______________________
“Take away 1980, 1981, and 1982 . . .”? Say what?
Definitely a candidate for dumbest, most irrelevant comment on this blog.
Hey, ozzfest, take away all his losses and he’d be undefeated.
Duh!
crossdawg
July 10th, 2012
10:11 pm
If Coach Dooley said it, I sho nuff believe it.
Ted
July 10th, 2012
10:39 pm
Funny how anything that happens in Athens is the “best thing” that could have happened.
bubba4dawgs
July 10th, 2012
10:44 pm
Hi LaGrange 1975! I happen to be La Grange 1955 and my upbringing over these last 75+ years begs to disagree with you! Naturally, you and I came up during a completely different time zone and I didn’t face the likes of marijuana nor alcohol abuse. The kids today are challenged with the temptations of things that can destroy their lives as well as the lives of others. Those who receive the discipline they need at home have a better chance of overcoming the temptations. It appears that Crowell’s errant behavior may have been affected by a lack of discipline. But let’s remember, life is made of choices and he is given a free will to make the right choice. If he continues to make wrong choices, then he simply doesn’t mix very well with those who are making right choices.
No one wanted to see Crowell’s departure become necessary, especially Coach Richt. He has a team to coach and must maintain discipline in order to be successful. Crowell was given every chance!!!! He didn’t deserve any more chances and Coach Richt couldn’t give him anymore chances even if he wanted to. I assure you that Coach Richt wishes him well as we all do but. The University of Georgia and the UGA team will be better off as a result of Crowell’s departure!
I learned my lesson from the La Grange Class of 1955 and pass this on to the LaGrange Class of 1975.
Mobile Dawg
July 10th, 2012
10:55 pm
Have to agree with you 55. I’m a little later in the game, but, I had choices. The company which I was employed by for 27 years gave “random” drug and alcohol tests, mandated by the Federal Government. I never once smoked, or drank excessively, because I cared about my job, future, career, and later down the road my family. The only thing I feel bad for is that more than likely my tax dollars will go to support IC and his likes because they don’t have the same values, or work ethic that I do.
bubba4dawgs
July 10th, 2012
11:03 pm
Tis sad, Mobile Dawg!j I agree with you! The country is in a mess greatly because of this. I wonder how many billions (perhaps trillions) is wasted on it!! Fortunately, this country wasn’t built on the mindset of this cancer! If it was, I shudder to think about where we would be!
Mobile Dawg
July 10th, 2012
11:08 pm
Yeah, unfortunately I don’t have a lot of compassion in my heart for people who don’t want to help themselves. The golden goose is getting really thin. I’m thinking it’s time to start thinking about seceding from the Union again, the people paying the bills are quickly becoming the minority, the minority can’t support the majority much longer.
TrickDawd
July 10th, 2012
11:23 pm
I agree with Dooley, that 2 bad apple can spoil the whole bunch.
Let’s look at Aaron Murray closely. Is he a positive effect, team chemistry wise, or a negative effect?
Look at his record:
0-9 against teams that finish in the top 25 ap poll
It’s GLARINGLY OBVIOUS, to anyone that’s HONEST, that the team, for whatever reason, PLAYS WORSE in BIG GAMES when Murray is the QB.
He has a super negative effect on the team. why? I can only guess at reasons teams don’t rally behind Qb’s: don’t respect him because of the way Richt entitled/entitles/coddles/favors him, like other Qb’s on the team better, feel other Qb’s on the team are better, self defeating habits: turnovers–sacks–missed throws, losing his poise in big games all 9 times, blaming teammates when mistakes happen (his body language is terrible–I’ve NEVER seen Aaron Murray grab his OWN jersey on a missed pass or an interception to say “my fault”–he always looks disgusted and throws his hands on his helmet or up in the air in disbelef like it’s always his teammate’s fault), too preachy/tebow esque, not spending enough time with the guys off the field, narcissitic, could be all or none of those, all I know is, GUYS DON’T MAKE PLAYS for Murray in BIG GAMES.
Could Aaron Murray be the team chemistry bad apple?
Team is 0-9 under Murray against teams that finish top 25 in the AP Poll.
It’s time for a new leader, the chemistry is not there.
TrickDawg
July 10th, 2012
11:27 pm
missed the G. fixed it.
I know others want to have that blind faith in Coach Richt that Murray is the guy, but I’m sorry, in my opinion, and believe, it’s based on a watching every game video many times, and dozens of hours studying the stats, I am sure he is not creating even “good” team chemistry, especially in the bigger games.
LaGrange1975
July 11th, 2012
12:11 am
Greetings to you as well bubba4dawgs . In my life I have seen a lot of things. I stay true to what I said no matter who disagrees. I know that it is human nature for people to say, “well this is the last straw.” If this is the case then Crowell should have been dismissed for what he had already done in the past, etc. I am still one of the few that truly believe in the terms “innocent until proven guilty.” I don’t know if the weapon was Crowell’s or not. But I am arguing that in this case he should be given his “proper” day in court.
When I was younger and in the military, I had a roomate who broke the law. I won’t tell what he did, however, if he had not told the truth about what had happened I would have been accused right alone with him. The part that bothered me the most out of that whole ordeal was when my superiors felt I was involved in the incident. Again, I don’t know if he is guilty or not, but I refuse to convict him until things play out in the courts. Also, I will not talk about the number of chances he had or didn’t have, as all any of us can do is specualte. Lastly, thank you for your well crafted argument. It is always good to debate with someone who knows how to construct a proper argument.
bubba4dawgs
July 11th, 2012
6:44 am
LaGrange1975, well said and I can see your point and will not try to vilify my point any further. You definitely make a valid point about innocence until proven guilty. What we don’t know is what agreement Coach Richt and Crowell had as a condition of his previous violations regarding his conduct off the field. He had a lot of trouble from the very beginning adjusting to campus life, i.e., he couldn’t get to meetings on time, if at all and missed the morning runs, et. Coach Richt couldn’t and wouldn’t detail all that went on with this young man but it appears that he had simply run out of chances and excuses with him. Coach Richt probably realizes that he made a huge mistake by anointing him the ‘prima dona’ of the team with the missing man formation and #1 jersey when he visited the campus when he signed on. this was a huge burden on Crowell, one that probably was too much for him to handle.
I am a fan of Crowell! I hold no ill feelings toward him due to this regrettable outcome of his short career at UGA! I wish him well at Alabama State and will be following is career there! I wish he will be very successful and return to the SEC with another team and even face the DAWGS again. He will then be thankful that his unfortunate experience helped set him on the right path for a successful career. My, what talent!!! I’m glad we had him for the time we did!
Thank You for your comments!! Well said and a most respected point of view!!
LaGrange 1975
July 11th, 2012
6:46 am
You are sooooooooooooo RIGHT. IC’s MOTHER did the best she could in rasiing him to his present level. Whatever he has been targeted on an off the field. I watched the game between Carolina & UGA Tuesday on ESPN and the drunks really cheered him on and they lost the game. Yes ! they are going to miss the hell out of this kid and Vince Dooley needs to shut the hell up!!! He has children ,too and their butts are not perfec! University of Alabama (MR. SABAN)needs to recruit the hell out GEORGIA and the elite should follow him straight to another championship!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel sorry for CMR and his players you fans have taken the game call COLLEGE FOOTBALL to another level !!! VINCE DOOLEY how in the hell can this football program be on the same page with the CAMPUS POLICE and DWAG FANS CONTROLLING everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aaron
July 11th, 2012
11:04 am
But he was framed! You don’t know where he came from!
Barry
July 11th, 2012
5:29 pm
Crowell’s toughness was no doubt a real questionmark. It did not appear that he had much of it. However, my bigger problem with “Crow-Unwell” was when he did take himself out of a game, he just sat on his butt on the bench, or stood somewhere off the sideline showing absolutely no interest in even watching the game much less cheering for whomever took his place – or God forbid – actually trying to “coach up” the substitute when he came out of the game at the end of a series. As the starter he should be able to help the 2nd teamer in some way. He showed more interest in chewing on his fingernails than seeing the game. Perhaps it was a “hangnail” that caused him to leave the game.
Coach Dooley is right – the Dogs are better off without him! He now may become a star in the minor leagues, but we (Dogs) don’t need him.
Vesaversa
July 12th, 2012
9:47 am
BS disciplined start with the Head coach something Mark Reich have lack for years now .You want see much of this on a Nick Saban team or a Steve Spurrier .Come on peoples can’t you see where the problems have really been all these years now ? Mark Reich should get fired if Ga doesn’t win 10 games this year .
Westicles
July 12th, 2012
10:10 am
Crowell was/is a ZERO and an embarassment to the University of Georgia. I’m glad he’s gone. He has already played on the biggest stage of his life, and he blew it with his own stupidity. Alabama State is just another step down towards rock bottom for this loser. You people who want to blame everyone other than Crowell for Crowell’s failure are a huge part of the problem. Stop making excuses for losers like Crowell and start holding them accountable for their own actions.
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Aaron
July 12th, 2012
2:40 pm
“With Crowell out and linebacker Brandon Burrows’ recent decision to transfer in search of more playing time, Georgia has dipped below 70 scholarship players heading into next season. The NCAA allows 85.”
Wow, oversigning doesn’t seem like such a bad thing now, does it?
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Von Trapp
July 12th, 2012
7:45 pm
TEAM was NEVER in IC’s mind. Let some other school baby sit the dude
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Bulldawg Bob
July 15th, 2012
11:19 am
LaGrange and to other OPs that have posted that Crowell is innocent till proven guilty. The only problem with that is that may work in the legal system and the court of law, but not in life. No offense, but I have to disagree with you. What do you not understand? He was in a car, that smelled of weed, with an unlicensed, unregistered, altered serial number handgun stuck under the seat. I’m all for gun rights, but a handgun with an altered serial number!!! Do you not understand that handguns with altered serial numbers are most often or have been used in some sort of illegal activity. He couldn’t go down to Franklin Gun Shop and buy a gun? Yes. Kids will be kids, but we are not talking about some guys knocking back a few beers or toking on some rolled ones. We are talking about a guy carrying around an illegal, altered, unregistered handgun on school property. Have you not been paying attention to what has happened recently with handguns, football players, and college campuses and towns? Just look across the state border to our west and Auburn.
I own guns, and I enjoy shooting and hunting; however, if I get stopped at work or school by security or police, and they find even an registered gun, I can get fired, dismissed, and even charged with carrying a concealed weapon. Even if I can legally carry said firearm, it doesn’t mean that I am not bound by rules and regulations at school or work.
What about personal responsibility? You are telling me that because he is a college kid and UGA needs to win that it is CMR’s and UGA’s fault that they didn’t give this young man another chance? Do you know how many chances Crowell was given before this last incident? Do your realize how much CMR, the coaching staff, teammates, and UGA bent over for this young man, giving second, third, fourth, and fifth chances? This wasn’t Crowell’s third infractrion. It was a pattern of behavior.
Winning at all cost should not be accepted or even taught. That is part of the problem. Yes. Winning is important, but what is more important is doing things the right way. Look at what has happened at Penn State. I suppose you are going to tell me it was more important of Joe Pa and Penn State to win no matter the cost to moral obligation and humanit?.
I wish Crowell all the luck in the world and hope he turns things around, but he was given plenty of chances. It wasn’t like this was this young man’s first or even second brush with trouble. FYI, and before you disrespect a DGD like Vince Dooley for calling a pre-madonna collegiate athlete a bad apple because he was getting in trouble in highschool and continued to get in trouble when he got to college, you should remember what he did and continues to still do for UGA.
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