ATHENS – On the day that Georgia football coach Mark Richt’s protracted contract extension was finally finalized, the Bulldogs took steps to make sure that Greg McGarity remained their athletic director beyond that.
As expected, Richt received a new five-year contract that will extend his agreement with Georgia through the 2016 football season. The new deal — in the works since the second week of this past December — was announced during a special meeting of the Georgia Athletic Association’s executive board, which convened via teleconference call Thursday evening.
What wasn’t expected was UGA President Michael Adams’ announcement that the board had also approved his motion for a two-year contract extension for McGarity through December of 2017. McGarity, Georgia’s AD since August of 2010, also received a salary increase from $460,000 to $500,000 in 2012 and $550,000 in 2013 and beyond.
“I’ve watched him make some tough personnel decisions this spring and have been impressed with how he has handled that as well as the negotiations with the football coach,” said Adams, who will retire as president in June of 2013. “I just felt like it was important for the benefit of the athletic association and the university that we get him locked in at a time that was slightly longer than the head football coach. That would well position the university for any changes that might take place in the future.”
The financial terms of Richt’s new deal stayed basically the same at $2,811,340 per year. However, the Bulldogs doubled Richt’s performance bonuses, meaning an SEC championship would be worth $200,00o to him and a national championship could mean $800,000 extra.
“That’s among the top in college football, if not the top,” McGarity said of the incentives.
The most notable change was the penalty for Richt leaving of his own volition was reduced from $2 million per year under the old agreement to zero under the new deal.
“I think it’s just Greg’s philosophy on the contract,” said Richt, who has been Georgia’s coach since 2001. “It’s not something that I was asking for; it’s something that he had suggested and I said that’d be fine. The bottom line for me is — and I think I’ve been here long enough for everyone to understand this — Georgia is my home, Georgia is where I want to be, Georgia is the only job I’ve ever wanted and that hasn’t changed.”
Conversely, the amount Georgia would owe Richt should they fire him was reduced from $2.4 million per year to $800,000 per year for the three new years on the contract. In other words, UGA would have to pay him $4.8 million if he was fired following the 2012 season ($2.4 for 2013 and $800,000 for each year thereafter). But it would be $800,000 a season beyond 2013.
“My philosophy is life is too short and I don’t think somebody should be anchored down somewhere because of financial concerns,” McGarity said of buyouts. “People are going to twist it and say whatever they want about it. But I’m just telling you the truth about it: Between Mark Richt and myself, there’s no monkey business here. This is an agreement that was reached between us. Mark’s excited about this; I’m excited about it and we’re going to move on from here.”
As for his own extension, McGarity didn’t have much to say.
“I don’t like talking about that,” he said after the board meeting. “It’s awkward for me. I’ve always said it’s an honor and privilege for me to be here as athletic director. I get to come into an environment with a great staff and a great work force that loves what they do. It’s reassuring to know that the president and the board feel confident in the direction we’re moving as a staff.”
Richt is the dean of SEC coaches in terms of being at the same institution for the longest time. He is 106-38 (.736) in 11 seasons at Georgia. He has earned more than $21 million over that period.
“I think it’s an A-plus,” Bob Bishop, UGA’s longest-tenured member of the executive board, said of Richt’s new deal. “I think it’s great. He’s done an excellent job and deserves it.”
Richt said he has tentative plans to celebrate the new deal.
“As soon as Coach [Mark] Fox figures out a date and time, he and I are going to the Waffle House,” Richt quipped. “That was like a month ago but I don’t think he’s forgotten about it and I haven’t either.”
“I feel like a very blessed man,” he added.
NOTE: McGarity said the three-year contract extension for defensive coordinator Todd Grantham has been finalized and will be announced on Friday.
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Hey Techster
June 7th, 2012
4:29 pm
first
SCDawg
June 7th, 2012
4:31 pm
Better late than never. Now we can get back to serious issues at hand…there are still a lot of things to get done before August.
GATA!!!!!
THE Dixie Redcoat Band
June 7th, 2012
4:32 pm
I think he has to win a minor bowl game before 2020!
DouglasDawg
June 7th, 2012
4:48 pm
Lets play ball!
Beast from the East
June 7th, 2012
5:17 pm
It is truly amazing how long it takes to get these contracts finalized. Even when all parties agree on the basic principles and structure, it still can take months to go through all the details, buyouts, morals clauses, etc. Even though it was way before my time, whatever happened to a firm handshake while you looked someone in the eye and came to an agreement? I guess I already know the answer to that…lawyers.
WHEN ??
June 7th, 2012
5:30 pm
WHEN does Georgia Tech get to leave double, secret triple, NCAA probation for systemic lying and cheating?
Black-N-Red
June 7th, 2012
5:44 pm
rankly, I’m pretty fed up with all of the Richt apologists with their lame whining that all schools have the same problems with their athletes. That’s utter garbage. UGA has so many athletes arrested and suspended or dismissed outright because Mark Richt recruits low class dummies with no moral code, no sense of teamwork, and a “me first” attitude that’s like a cancer to the team.
And really, all Richt cares about are the big bucks. Nothing else matters to him.
You are a model MORON, please crawl back under your rock.
Really?
June 7th, 2012
5:44 pm
I wonder why saban only drug tests players when he needs to free up scholarship room? Too bad that tuscaloosa cop that settled out of court with bama had a no talk clause in his settlement. He made claims that he had been threatened after being orderered to release nearly a dozen players over a 2 year period that he had deatined for reasons ranging from dui to attempted rape. I guess we’ll have to wait until someone wants more payoff money than bama boosters are willing to pay. Considering anyone associated with that cesspool in allybammer has nothing at all to be prous of other than bama football, we may never get to hear the truth.
we cover up rape better than anyone roll tide.
Ex-Contributor
June 7th, 2012
5:50 pm
How many national championship rings does Saban have? How many does Richt have?
drbasic
June 7th, 2012
6:07 pm
@ Ex-Con
Really????
So then,to lie and coverup for A ring is more important than being of moral Character? You sir are off balance!
Dawgnation does not need your support, stay an ex-contributor
Forever Dawg
June 7th, 2012
6:16 pm
Idiots…if they’re not complaining about the schedule, they’re complaing about the players or coaches, how about shutting up and supporting the program. UGA is no different than any other school, everyone play’s two or three small schools (look at the schedules) and has players getting arrested for DUI, smoking pot, etc… Georgia’s problems are prominent here because we’re in Georgia, LSU’s problems don’t make the paper here but are headline news in New Orelans. So quit complaining about everything, if you don’t hav anything positive to say just SHUT UP!
WDE
June 7th, 2012
7:40 pm
Forever Dawg..well said !!
WDE
June 7th, 2012
8:00 pm
The name is Maggie,=troll and a bad troll at that….
RedHat
June 7th, 2012
8:10 pm
Hmmm.
McGarity got a raise? For what? The football team has gone 0-9 vs. ranked teams during McGarity’s tenure.
Adams got bamboozled.
Richt gets to leave for $0 buyout? Wow, McGarity got out-negotiated on this one, looks a bit like an amateur. This is embarrassing.
RJ
June 7th, 2012
8:13 pm
It is documented that CMR contributes/donates a lot of his money to other worthy causes. The guy try’s to help other people and do the right things and he gets Maggie pie in the face. Says a lot about today’s morals of what is important in the grander scheme of things. I believe in UGA and proud we have a leader who conducts himself with character and dignity. I can’t same the same for some of the bloggers.
The Tide is trolling and nothing can stop it
June 7th, 2012
8:17 pm
LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!
West Coast Dawg
June 7th, 2012
9:24 pm
It seems to me that the idea at Ag Hill is to make all of those folks happy. I too wonder why McGarity got a raise. For what? We have a football program that beats all the Little Sisters of the Poor and loses to the ranked teams, everyone except Auburn. So last year’s record against the ranked is 1 win and 4 losses. Not particularly impressive, say what? I’d take Nick Saban in a heartbeat even though he is no hail fellow well met. He doesn’t need to be. He just wins.
And no kudos to Athens’ Buddy Bishop. He got us Ray Goff leading a friend of mine to say if we were trying to achieve mediocrity, we succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.
Jason
June 7th, 2012
9:29 pm
Doesn’t look like Greg McGarity gives one care if Mark Richt decides to leave on his own accord! Also makes it alot cheaper to fire him. If I’m Richt, I think this new contract extension is just for recruits, not really because I’m wanted, wow!
Big time?? Not
June 7th, 2012
9:40 pm
Adams is a dick
dogdawg
June 7th, 2012
9:45 pm
we are undefeated against Flerdy with mCGarity as AD.
bardawg
June 7th, 2012
9:54 pm
To excontributor, if your permanant residence isn’t under a rock, it certainly should be. UGA is much better off without your caliber of supporter.
6-18 Against End of Season Ranked Team Since '05
June 7th, 2012
10:01 pm
Great……by the end of the 2017 season, my moniker for this blog will be “12-36 Against End of Season Ranked Teams Since ‘05″
…..sigh!!!
6-18 Against End of Season Ranked Team Since '05
June 7th, 2012
10:03 pm
having said that, I agree with you Jason, McGarrity could fire Richt after ‘13 season at will with minimal financial impact…..yea!!!!
Dawg1
June 7th, 2012
10:13 pm
Must be ‘hater’ Thursday…
Good to see this is behind them…
Go Dawgs!
flo-ri-duh
June 7th, 2012
10:38 pm
One thing not mentioned. Has the defensive coordinator signed his extension?
give me south georgia
June 7th, 2012
10:59 pm
I’m fine with Richt being the UGA football coach indefinitely. I think the man has principles and for me this is enough. Well I hope he has principles.
Never for money/always for love/cover up and say good night.
Reality
June 7th, 2012
11:18 pm
For the guy knocking the Richt apologists ———- face it….the issues are at all schools (colleges, high, middle and elementary) and all around this country— these behaviors are the results of poor family structure and modeling
Reality
June 7th, 2012
11:20 pm
Ex-contributor – from your name it sounds as though you don’t support UGA anymore and have made a decision to go in another direction – but your concerns and comments here make it seem like your still hanging on —- get off the tracks – no one is begging you to come back.
bubba4dawgs
June 7th, 2012
11:43 pm
What has Ex-contributor contributed so far??? It sounds like zero to me!
Forever Dawg, well said!! GO DAWGS!!!
RedDawg
June 7th, 2012
11:58 pm
I’m happy for Richt he runs the program the right way. I believe he will be like his mentor Bowden it will take forever but he get his one day. I back Richt and always will he’s a Dawg and always will be. I can’t think of a HC i would replace him for. GO DAWGS!!!
ARdawg
June 8th, 2012
12:23 am
Congrats to Richt and McGarity. You’ve earned it and enjoy. It’s got to sv<k to be McGarity and have your success tied to just the football team but, hey, it is what it is
Troup Co. Dawg
June 8th, 2012
1:44 am
We go the tools to Satisfy!!! Keepin’ the dream alive!!! Win it all! Go get the Gatorade bath!
trueUGAfan
June 8th, 2012
3:18 am
Reading these blog posts, it d
7576DAWG
June 8th, 2012
5:07 am
Jim Donnan got fired because he couldn’t beat Tech, something Richt has had no trouble doing. For me I don’t care if we ever play Tech again . As long as Richt wins 10 games and can beat Tech he will keep his job. In the past that was the important benchmark or guide as to whether the Georgia was successful or not. It will be interesting to see if McGarity changes the rules now that Adams will be leaving.
sprouse27
June 8th, 2012
6:29 am
CMR is certainly a man of character, and so is the Pope. Both would win about the same number of games coaching Georgia.
thenumber34
June 8th, 2012
7:02 am
UGA will win a NC under Richt and when we do, it will feel sweeter than most as Richt will have done it the right way and a way in which all of we Georgia fans can be proud. The journey, my Bulldog brethren, can be as much fun if not more fun than the destination.
keeping it real
June 8th, 2012
7:23 am
Hope I’m wrong, but I think the $800,000 bonus for the national championship is pretty safe.
tell me again
June 8th, 2012
7:25 am
Some of you forget how long UGA had gone without an SEC Championship PRIOR to CMR….before CMR came, UGA really WAS a mid level SEC program….we have had some average years recently…..but all in all we are always in the hunt. We are close and we have done it the right way with the right man. And for Alabama – if a police officer EVER arrested a football player in that state he might as well resign, sell his house and move his family to another state because you just don’t do that in ALYBAMMER. If the Bama football players had to contend with the scrutiny and drug tests the UGA players do, ‘Bama couldn’t field a rugby team because they would all be in jail. If you’ve ever been to Alabama for any length of time and seen the wonderful people there, you know it’s true. Some of the posters here are just total idiots and children ~ the real Dawg fans are proud of the football program and the integrity it operates under – and we are proud of all of our teams. Our athletic department, overall, is one of the most profitable and envied in the country. And for all of you Tech A** Hol*s – we have more departments nationally ranked academically in both the public and private classifications than you have muggings on North Avenue. And now that UGA has started its engineereing school, in a few years, you Tech idiots will also be second in the state in that department. UGA – Once a Dawg, ALWAYS a Dawg…HOW SWEET IT IS!
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SickandTired
June 8th, 2012
7:52 am
Great. Adams andMcGarity have finally succeeded in institutionalizing mediocrity. Hail be to Mark Richt. A good man no doubt but not up to the task of arranging shipment of a crystal football back to Athens from a national championship game. That task is reserved for only the best coaches in the SEC.
Moobs Johnson
June 8th, 2012
7:59 am
So axing the Gymnastics and Women’s Golf coach gets you an extension as AD in Athens? What about all of the other under performing sports? Beating nobody of note and losing to anybody in the Top 25 gets you an extension as football coach? Mediocrity is alive and well in Athens.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
8:16 am
10 game season used as a benchmark for having a solid program is NOT Mcgarities doing,. That has long been the standard in the world of college football. Still is, despite some of our fans tryign to act like they are personally so much excellent than to “settle” for what the rest of the world knows to be true. Is that championship? no. Is it “great” ? no. Will that win trophies? no. But taking the emotions and personal opinion away, a college coach keeping his job because he acheives 10 wins on a normal basis is exactly what should happen.
The reason that is important, the 10 win standard, is that is the jumping off point FOR trophies. You have to have 10 win team(s) to ever have 12-14 win team, and I don’t mean that as simplistic as it sounds.
Not one single Georgia fan or administrator has ever said or believed that we ONLY want to win 10 and no more, but obviously you would keep a coach that can do it over time, if you ever want to go any further. At Georgia, anyway. Some folks want to pretend that we are somebody else and are going to go out and see who the higheest paid HC we can lure from (whereever) or turn em am burn em till we find our superhero. Thats not going to happen.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
8:23 am
McGarity got a raise because he was still being paid what a rookie first year AD get. Now that he has extablished that he is up for the job, it’s appropritate to pay him according to what SEC AD are paid. Grow up folks, and welcome to the real world.
You can sit and make theoretical point about trophies from your couch, which is fine, but the actual folks dealing with the actual business of the AA have a bit more to deal with.
Vince
June 8th, 2012
8:31 am
Jello Yackets—-Get your facts straight!! Neither Mr. Forkner nor Mr. Rogers has ANY affiliation with the North Ave. trade school. That is an old wives tale. You have to be smoking bath salts to make a statement as stupid as your last sentence. We are all laughing—-ALL DAY!!!!!
Vince
June 8th, 2012
8:34 am
Also, it is Alumna–not Alumnus.
The Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
June 8th, 2012
8:55 am
Celebrate good times, come on!
Here’s to the school that should be a powerhouse, continuing to be a non-factor.
flo-ri-duh
June 8th, 2012
8:57 am
And when are they going to get Grantham signed? Grantham vs Van Gorder………… two hot heads – going to be interesting.
Whopper Dawg
June 8th, 2012
8:58 am
That 2011 football schedule was a wondrous thing.
Gulf Shores Dawg
June 8th, 2012
8:59 am
Whiners and haters (aka tech fans, with some redneck AU, Gator & Tide fans mixed in)….CMR is a rock at UGA and McGarity is too…It is well known UGA is as tough as it gets on it’s athletes and Bama hides their’s under the rug…we know that…went to all of Foley, AL high school games that Julio jones played in and his family was as poor as dirt…but somehow he has dozens of expensive tailored suits at Bama???hmmm…Tuscowloosa PD just takes the drunks to Saban…it’s a fact.
Vince
June 8th, 2012
9:01 am
Crap–I meant Alumni, in referencing the “two” men. I realize Alumna is feminine. Thanks
flo-ri-duh
June 8th, 2012
9:01 am
Tidey Bowl for the Tide this year when they come back down to earth with 3 losses and an ole fashion beat down by last years SEC Champs – the LSU Tigers. My bull dog is still excited every time he sees that Saban “gnome”fire hydrant in the back yard. Hose it down for me again baby!
Gulf Shores Dawg
June 8th, 2012
9:02 am
CMR and Grantham are special and UGA is on a roll…haters beware…YOU ENERGY VAMPIRES! Your Mom didn’t love you, so sorry…
Joey
June 8th, 2012
9:09 am
I get the feeling McGarity doesn’t get that thrill up his leg for the 10-Win-Season as some do. 10 wins might have been a standard back when the season was 10 or 11 games. Not now. Not with 13 and 14 games.
24 Div 1 teams won 10 games or more last season. We had the most losses with 4.
Maybe Richt puts it all together this season. The schedule won’t be so friendly the next couple.
Joey
June 8th, 2012
9:17 am
Gulf Shores, no doubt he’s a good man, yes, but I would disagree abou the “special” comment. Special coaches don’t lose games at a rate that Richt has the last 3 seasons – especially with the talent that he has at his disposal.
I would say that special coaches beat teams that they shouldn’t beat, occasionally. It’s been a long time since our guy has done that.
Instead, he tends to lose games that he shouldn’t every season.
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Dap01
June 8th, 2012
9:23 am
I am glad it is finalized. I am tired of reading about it in the headlines every few days.
Crap
June 8th, 2012
9:23 am
Vince: We’re good, and I meant to congratulate you on your response to the Yacket.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
9:50 am
NOBODY gets a thrill up thier leg over 10 wins. Where does that come from? It’s easy to dispute an opinion or claim if you inflate it beyond reality to start with. And you are simply wrong to try to say its not a “standard” still. Expanded schedules logically mean more chances to mount losses as well. More injuries, more stress. It averages out. Winning 75%+ of your game over the long haul will always be a “standard” by which college football coaches careers are judged historically.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
9:55 am
You know how it bothers when folks tell you that you hate Richt and want him fired, when you say thats never been what you claim? It’s exactly the same when folks say that 10 wins is not a bad season in the big picture (as the whole world knows it is not,) and you lecture them how it’s not championship caliber.
THE Dixie Redcoat Band
June 8th, 2012
10:00 am
How many major schools have made offers to our coaches..hmmmm. Think about it people.
bham dawg
June 8th, 2012
10:29 am
i like the terms of the new contract. he didn’t deserve a raise. doubling the incentives only should just light a fire under richt to prove the naysayers wrong. it’s time to put up or shut up. our time is now dawg nation. 2012 is richt’s time and the junkyard dawgs are back. See yall in Miami.
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June 8th, 2012
10:34 am
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AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
10:38 am
24 Div 1 teams won 10 games or more last season. We had the most losses with 4.
I find several things wrong with whatever that point was. But I guess I should ask first, what was the point? That of the 10 win teams we are the worst?
- ON the 10 wins side, half those teams are not anybody we remotely care about. We are looking at winning 10 games as a minumal standard in our world, not the mountain west. BTW, that less than 20% of all teams that did. They can play 15 games and I am saying that wold still be the same.
- On the loss side, how many of those teams’ only losses were to a top 10 team? A couple, a few? w Doesnt that simply state that we were worse than a few teams in terms of who we couldn’t beat? Is that some revelation?
-further, IF they won 10 games and did NOT have 4 losses, they obviously they didnt play as many games as we did. So other than the interesting piece of trivia that Georgia was the only 10 win team to play in a conference championship game, I’m not sure what you can concluded from that.
You point being that if we had only played in 13 games, and lost only 3 games, and not the extra one to the #1 LSU at the time, somehow that makes up look better by comparison to the rest of those?
JB
June 8th, 2012
10:40 am
The bonus incentives are a pretty safe bet. don’t think they need to ” fund them”………And yes I hate to say that, but the SEC is a much tougher place than when Mark arrived,,,,,,,,,,,,,,And what will change after 11 seasons?
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
10:49 am
Just to clarify, I am not disputing that back when they only played 10 regular games, that 10 win was a lot better. But in those days, 8 games was considered not too shabby (which is what we are calling 10 now). Then it was 9 a few years later when they expanded the schedule. So your point that the scale has changed is correct, I am just saying that it’s been taken into account.
Joey
June 8th, 2012
10:50 am
I agree on all points, bham dawg. It is the time to make it happen – with the ‘12 schedule, while not easy, certainly it will only get harder the next couple of seasons.
I say, if we win at Mizzou, and somehow pull out a win vs SC, it can be done (getting to Miami), but a loss to either will doom those hopes.
What bothers me is it seems all the losing doesn’t matter as much these Bulldogs as it did with Richt’s early teams, who seemed to hate, just despise losing. They were in every single game – never got beat badly, until ‘06 (?). Getting routed was out of the question.
It may be perception, but that isn’t the mindset now. I keep thinking back to Stafford sitting on the bench in Jax, late in the ‘08 game, smiling and cutting-up, while we were getting embarrassed on national tv. That wouldn’t have happened in ‘01-’05.
Perhaps Richt has lost his motivating touch with this generation of athletes.
Vince
June 8th, 2012
10:54 am
Crap—Thanks. Any condescending comments about the trade school for boys is always a treat for me!
Ghost
June 8th, 2012
10:55 am
Joey,
I am not comparing the two as coaches , but I would think that Bear Bryant was special, and from 1968-1970 he was 20-13 -1, every program goes through down phases.
Joey
June 8th, 2012
11:02 am
Haha, you are so tuned in to defending Richt, you dwell on the tiniest bit of criticism for 59 minutes. Take a breath – he’s our coach for eternity, I accept that, but you may as well accept that if I think he’s not the best coach on the planet, I’m gonna say so.
And when you call 10 wins, still, the “standard,” no, you aren’t taking into account that the scale has been changed. I don’t care how you twist and turn it over for inspection, a 10-4 season is barely “good” and nowhere near “great.”
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
11:07 am
AND NOBODY IS CALLING IT GREAT.
Paddy
June 8th, 2012
11:10 am
Ex-contributor……pls stay that way. Many more are taking your place as contributors as we speak. You are doing the right thing by becoming an ex-Dawg. Temple and Fla International need help, try them. You won’t be missed!
Delbert D.
June 8th, 2012
11:10 am
It would be interesting to see that professor’s client list. Maybe it was a walk-in service, though.
JB
June 8th, 2012
11:11 am
He wins he stays, he loses he goes……………..the MILLION dollar question is, is 10-4 and losing to the only 4 good teams on the schedule OK for Dawg fans?
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Joey
June 8th, 2012
11:17 am
Excellent point, Ghost. But Bear has already won 3 Nat Titles and a had a couple of unbeaten seasons by then. I bet even in those down years, he ever lost to somebody like UCF, UK, and a pathetic Colorado and everybody was gunning for Bama by then.
Richt has not even gotten in the Big Game, and it’s his own fault – he lost to a average (and decidedly inferior) UF team in both ‘02 and ‘05, and lost to underdogs, SC and UT in ‘07.
Special coaches beat teams they should beat.
Joey
June 8th, 2012
11:18 am
Bear HAD already won……
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
11:24 am
My discussion of 10 games has nothing to do with Richt. I state my opinion on that because I find college football to be an interesting topic to discuss/debate. I would be making this same point about the any coach in our league.I don;t particualrly like Spurrier, but if he is winning 10 games, SC would not be firing him for that. I would be making this point If we hired a guy I absolutely did not like. You are the one that insist on making everything about Richt. As I have tried to tell you, countless times, I debate a topic, or a fact (as I see it).
Joey
June 8th, 2012
11:25 am
Keep reading, AD. Somebody will call me a “hater” and call ‘11 “great” before this thread ends.
JB, you already know the answer to the million dollar question from this die hard Bulldog fan.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
11:28 am
Are you disputing that back when we played 10 game seasons, the standard was 8 wins to be a pretty good year?
Ghost
June 8th, 2012
11:28 am
Joey so has Richt not to the same degree as bear, from 2002 -2008 Richt won 81% of his games and for that period had the highest winning % in the SEC.
Joey
June 8th, 2012
11:30 am
I am a Bulldog fan, not particularly a Richt fan. You are both. That’s fine. We are still both Bulldogs.
Dawgsgone
June 8th, 2012
11:32 am
Are these morons whoi constantly complain about the moral character of UGA recruits so naive as to believe Athens is the only place these things happen? It may shock them to hear that probably every football player signed by UGA had offers from at least 3-4 OTHER SEC SCHOOLS and that all the “good guy recruits” who wound up at other schools also considered UGA. How about armed robbery at AUBURN, off duty policemaan beat downs in KNOXVILLE, girl friend beatings and abuse inGAINSVILLE, not to mention the fun things going on at Arkansas with coaches/staff members and who knows how many un-reported instances of pot smoking, dui, underage drinking, ect. that goes on in EVERY COLLEGE TOWN that is covered up and “handled internally” (sound familiar DD?). I would challenge anyone to go back five years and research every SEC or ACC school and report ACCURATE information about arrests, dismissals, loss of scholarships, suspensions and see where everyone lines up. Until that happens, STFU about any school being better or worse than the other. They all recruit basically the same players with few exceptions and I’m sure they all behave about the same way wherever they are.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
11:33 am
You guys keep saying “the only good teams” last year, as if they were some average barely ranked teams. They weren’t. They were the best teams in the country. We wen’t the best team in the country. How is that so hard to grasp?
Ghost
June 8th, 2012
11:40 am
Joey, funny you mention it but during that span Bama did lose to Colorado, Vandy and Missouri.
And the loss Florida in 05, you blaming Richt for DJ not playing? In 07 LSU won National Championship losing to Kentucky and 5 loss Arkansas team.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
11:43 am
You keep defending your Bulldog fandom to me, I never understand why you feel the need to do that? That’s on you, if you think that’s ever been in doubt.
But AS a Bulldawg fan, and a logical grown man, I just find it hard to believe that you think its a valid plan of action to post 100% negative comment, time after time, going out of your way to turn any discussion INTO an opportunity to post a negative comment about the head coach as helpful or having some desired impact on the out come. Can you explain that to me?
Nobody asks you to be a Richt “fan”, but recognizing that he is one your side, I just don’t understand this plan. The “perception” is that you do it more for your own agenda, that for the football team’s benefit.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
11:46 am
not 5 but here is the past couple of years.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/police-blotter/
Joey
June 8th, 2012
12:01 pm
Ok, Ghost, you mentioned that you weren’t comparing the two, but now you definitely are.
For the record, THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN BEAR BRYANT AND MARK RICHT.
Don’t embarrass yourself with that crap.
And, whatever, AD. Tell you what, you ignore my posts and I’ll do the same. Promise.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
12:12 pm
No I enjoy discussing the topic. I think you know more about the game/history etc, than most. I wish you would keep it on topic though. You just get mad if my opinion doesnt line up with the negative meme of the day, and even when he was never my point, you turn it around as”defending Richt”, and it goes south from there.
I was talking about historical norms in college football, and YOU are the one that made a Richt debate.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
12:28 pm
But I am capable of debating things with myself, and you can simple read along in amusement, if that’s best.
Joey
June 8th, 2012
12:34 pm
“But I am capable of debating things with myself…”
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I fully believe that, and hate to admit it, but I’d probably read every word . . .
Ghost
June 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
Joey, I just pulled bear out of thin air for the hell of it , it could be said for numerous “special” coaches, you made the asinine comment special coaches don’t have 3 year periods like this and I bet they didn’t lose to Colorado or bah blah. .
Joey
June 8th, 2012
12:48 pm
Ghost, my point was that Richt is not “special,” and I stand by that. I said Richt alsways loses games he shouldn’t. Bear, along with many others, all had unbeaten seasons – thus their most talented teams didn’t lose games they shouldn’t have. Even Richt’s best teams did so. That was my point. You brought up the “3 year perio” stuff.
Someone wrote on the Junkyard Blawg this week that Richt is the 6th highest paid coach in the SEC.
I guess McGarity agrees with me that Richt ain’t “special.”
That McGarity guy must be asinine also . . .
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
1:11 pm
Bear Bryant, Vince Dooley……….go.
Joey
June 8th, 2012
1:14 pm
I don’t understand that remark,AD.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
1:21 pm
Following that exchange it does seem that Ghost is correct, The original comment was that special coaches don’t have 3 yrs periods like that…..the second point was never to “colorado in his down year…..and his responce was directly to THOSE point. The undefeated seasons was a 3rd subsequent follow up.
Just talking out loud to myself.
Joey
June 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
I stand corrected – I did write “…the last 3 seasons…” Apologies, Ghost, on that point.
I do think my greater point on the “special” tag, was in the next two paragraphs:
“I would say that special coaches beat teams that they shouldn’t beat, occasionally. It’s been a long time since our guy has done that.”
“Instead, he tends to lose games that he shouldn’t every season.”
I would also add that if “special” applies to head coaches who have won 2 SEC Titles, what adjective would we use to describe the dozen or so that won many, many more?
JB
June 8th, 2012
2:53 pm
This contract smells fishy. Dean of SEC coach’s. Second best winning percentage for active SEC coach’s……………..And no raise and soft buy out? An exit plan may be in play, at Marks request, and this protects recruiting……..And Richt’s wife finished with nursing school next year………..Can you spell full time missionary.
Joey
June 8th, 2012
3:18 pm
I can – full time missionary.
AltamahaDawg
June 8th, 2012
4:22 pm
Pretty safe bet that I would have mis-spelled missionary.
dan
June 9th, 2012
4:25 pm
Mark Richt’s greatest strength is he is great man who values building up his players over winning.
Mark Richt’s greatest weakness is he is great man who values building up his players over winning.
There is value in being process oriented, which I think Coach Richt is. But there is also value in having high goals and aggressively going after them. That is, and always has been, my biggest problem with Richt. I don’t think he’s ever had the GOAL of winning a National Title in his mind, and I for one wonder ” WHY THE HELL NOT??”. I mean shoot Coach you were a part of two National Title teams at FSU, don’t you want that for UGA? Look if Richt wins us a National Title and then wants to slack off like Dooley did his last few years, I’m fine with that. But this “mailing it in mindset” that he had after 2007 after only winning a couple of Conference titles was unbelievable! You can’t just sit around and expect things to happen, sometimes you have to force the issue! I mean c’mon Coach, don’t you WANT to win a National Title? Damn it….
Oh well, Gooo Dawgs…good luck this year!