Spurrier, Richt still disagree over how to tally division standings
DESTIN, Fla. — South Carolina football coach Steve Spurrier continues to pitch his proposal to count only intra-division games in deciding the SEC East and SEC West champions.
That way, Spurrier said, “you’d have a true division champion to play the other division champion” in the SEC title game.
Spurrier raised the idea after his Gamecocks went undefeated against SEC East opponents last season, but finished second behind Georgia in the division because of two losses to SEC West foes.
Spurrier said several SEC coaches support his proposal, which was discussed on the first day of the league’s annual spring meetings here. But the proposal seems an extreme longshot at best.
“I think that will be brought to the table for athletic directors to think about,” SEC commissioner Mike Slive said. But asked his opinion of the proposal, Slive said: “I think it’s hard for me to think about a conference game that doesn’t count.”
Georgia coach Mark Richt good-naturedly rejected Spurrier’s proposal.
“I think every man has a right to his opinion,” Richt said. “If it gets changed, then good for him, I guess, this year. I don’t know if he’d feel that way every year, but [based on last season] he’d probably feel good about it.
“I don’t think it’s going to change. I’ve always said, for me personally, tell me what the rules are at the beginning of the year and let’s go play by them.”
The current system penalizes in the SEC East standings the teams that play the stronger cross-division opponents, Spurrier argued, citing Tennessee’s annual game against Alabama.
LSU coach Les Miles previously has agreed with Spurrier’s position. But Alabama coach Nick Saban said that under Spurrier’s proposal, “then we’re really not an SEC. We’re really just an East and a West. So why would we even play the games?”
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RealDawg
May 30th, 2012
12:55 am
Let it go. USC has averaged 5 losses a year since 2000. Changing the rules will not make you relevant. Winning will.
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birddawg92
May 30th, 2012
12:56 am
It’s a silly proposal. What if an SECE or -W team goes 5-1 in its division but loses the other 2 cross-division games, while the team in defeated in its division WINS the rest of its games? Are you seriously going to make a 5-3 conference record team vs. a 7-1 conference record team division champ? Absurd. SOS is just PO’d that even he can’t escape the Chicken Curse. We should’ve beaten ‘em last year anyhow.
Mountain Dawg
May 30th, 2012
5:38 am
All it will take is for the chickens to lose to a couple of East teams and you won’t hear any more whining from the Head Chicken.
Auburn Grad
May 30th, 2012
6:58 am
Any other leagues that only count Division games; NFL, NBA, MLB, NCAA?
FLDawg
May 30th, 2012
7:05 am
Just allow Couch Superior Vandy game to count as an SEC West opponet.
This kinda of move would make the SEC East look like a panzy.
PapaDawg
May 30th, 2012
7:10 am
I can’t believe I’m agreeing withn Saban on something. Why didn’t spurrier bring this up while he was at Fla. I think the OLD ball coach is showing signs of early dementia.
Alphare
May 30th, 2012
7:12 am
I am not sure I definitely like CSS’s idea, but I am definitely against a #5 ranked team vs the #1 ranked team for SEC Champ.
Last year, the best ranked SEC teams are: LSU/BAMA/ARK/USC/UGA.
Why should #5 UGA play #1 LSU for SEC Champ? That’s just idiotic!
Hairy Dawg
May 30th, 2012
7:15 am
That stupid Visor Boy just not liking that Dawgs own East. We make his team pay this year by beating chickens into poop. Coach Richt knows how Dawgs best and will expose Stevie Wonder as long in tooth hack he is. USC got lucky to Dome for once and that was LAST time they ever get there cause Dawgs have best porgram.
Go Dawgs!
Beast from the East
May 30th, 2012
7:22 am
I’m with Muschamp, Saban and Richt on this one. All conference games should count. Spurrier Is making himself look like a whiner on this one. Take care of business against a mediocre Auburn team last year and this would never have been brought up by him. Sour grapes from the Head Ball Coach.
Alphare
May 30th, 2012
7:36 am
If we count other division team as half, while inner division as 1. It should acchieve what CSS wants and also cover Saban/Richt/Susch’s concern.
RJ
May 30th, 2012
7:37 am
The comparison of Reggie’s 50 game win percent vs Murray’s so far 37 game win percent is a poor comparison. See how this year pans out which I believe will make believers of true Dawg fans. Either way it’s on Murray and the players around him to have a great all around year.
sportzfan
May 30th, 2012
7:41 am
@Hairy Dawg & Mountain Dawg, Spurrier hasn’t lost to a SEC East team in two years, so how is it that the Dawgs are the power of the East?
Of course Saban doesn’t agree with Spurrier, because the Tide plays Tenn. every year and the Vols have been down for a while. LSU & Vandy both agree with Spurrier and of course the weaker teams in West are not speaking up because they want their East games to count because the competition is weaker than their West schedule.
The SEC East needs to rotate all teams in West and not be locked in with any certain team…..as in UGA & Auburn, Tenn & Alabama…..I can assure you Dooley would like to rotate away from Alabama.
Paladawg
May 30th, 2012
7:46 am
Well, there you go again. Waaa, waaa, waaa. If you can’t get your way, change the rules.
Paul in NH
May 30th, 2012
7:56 am
I agree with Richt et al on this one. However, if and when the SEC goes to 16 teams things will really get interesting. They will likely stay with 8 games (have to schedule the OOC wins to get as many teams in bowl games as possible), meaning 7 games in Division and 1 out of Division. That’s when Spurrier may get some company (DD?) asking for only Division games to count.
bubba4dawgs
May 30th, 2012
7:57 am
Visor Boy knows he can rule the East by beating the likes of UGA, Tenn and Florida. He wouldn’t have to worry about the strength of the SEC in Alabama, LSU and Arkansas. He believes he can consistently win the weaker East. This should entice UGA, Fla. and Tenn. to gear up for him. It seems his confidence over them is overwhelming! It’s time the weak 3 show him how strong they can be! GO DAWGS!!
BKbroila
May 30th, 2012
8:00 am
SPURRRRRRIIIIIIEEEEERRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU THINK VISORS ARE COOOOOOOOOOLLLL??????
JB
May 30th, 2012
8:13 am
Can someone get SS some cheese to go with that whine? Sheeesh!
HBTD!!!
Braddawg
May 30th, 2012
8:17 am
USC held it’s own destiny until it lost to many games and lost the tie breaker to UGA. National Rankings have no bearing on who plays in the SEC Championship.
On another note, Alabama didn’t even get to play in the SEC Championship Game, and we all know when that happens, You can’t play in the NCG.
gdawginkalamazoo
May 30th, 2012
8:19 am
So a “quality loss” won’t count anymore?
Bogey
May 30th, 2012
8:27 am
Come on Steve. You’ve had Arkansas as your permanent West Division opponent while Fla had LSU, Tenn had Alabama and Ga had Auburn. Now you will give up Arkansas-they will play Missouri as permanent cross division rival–and pick up Texas A&M. Advantage: South Carolina. Quit crying and play the games.
Alphare
May 30th, 2012
8:30 am
CSS sees a problem, and he wants to fix it. Nothing wrong there.
Why would a #5 ranked conference team play with the #1 ranked conference team for the conference champ? The #5 ranked team should have no business in it.
If you even fail to see a problem there, don’t ridicule CSS, ridicule yourself instead.
Tony
May 30th, 2012
8:35 am
If Spurrier and Garcia dont lose to a HORRIBLE Auburn team this year would we even be having this discussion? I mean South Carolina Fans sak up you lost the east quit bitching and move on. You will not win the east anytime soon either.
Boat
May 30th, 2012
8:37 am
Do you think Spurrier would be pushing this if they’d handled their business against a mediocre Auburn team in Columbia?
Boat
May 30th, 2012
8:38 am
Sorry, Tony. Didn’t notice you made the exact same point just before me. Great minds think alike.
Gulf Shores Dawg
May 30th, 2012
9:00 am
Spurrier, want some cheese with that whine, crybaby…
Beast from the East
May 30th, 2012
9:02 am
Alpharetta,
The conference isn’t decided by rankings. It’s decided by wins and losses within the conference. There give are no official rankings within a conference. Just standings based on your conference record. I still think all conference games should count toward those standings. Maybe they can give the division games more weight???
flo-ri-duh
May 30th, 2012
9:04 am
Spurrier is always whining. Just win your games, quit making excuses, and shut up! If the
Game Crocks had beat a mediocre Auburn team last year they wouldn’t be crying now. Besides they beat UGA last year on just plain LUCK. UGA had over 100 yards more offense. This year UGA is going o crush Spurrier and he will whine again. Perhaps it is time for the OLD ball coach to consider retirement to the Ole’ horse pasture.
UA Grad
May 30th, 2012
9:07 am
I deeply respect Coach Spurrier as the second greatest SEC football coach, but I don’t like the way he does business or his style. Nut up and win your games. Ga had the better SEC record, and they went to the Dome. Sure, they had an easier schedule, but that was just the luck of the draw. Quit the whining. Beat Auburn and you were there. Period.
flo-ri-duh
May 30th, 2012
9:08 am
Every game played between SEC teams has always counted since the very beginning of the SEC and now Spurrier wants to change the rules. I have a better idea. Move Spurrier to the west division and THEN count only division games. What excuse would he come up with then?
RxDawg
May 30th, 2012
9:10 am
“I think it’s hard for me to think about a conference game that doesn’t count.”
Honestly what else is there to say about this stupid topic? It will turn some of our SEC games into non conference games…. no No NO
Old Dawg
May 30th, 2012
9:11 am
I agree with Saban, Muschamp and Richt, it’s a conference schedule, not a division schedule, that decides a division champ.
How simple can it get?
Shocker
May 30th, 2012
9:12 am
There is a reason that Steve Spurrier was just voted the most hated coach of all time. Not sure who put together the poll but it was shown on Sportscenter and Spurrier was the winner by far. What a whiny cry baby
flo-ri-duh
May 30th, 2012
9:12 am
Isn’t Spurrier just admitting he can’t win the east division under the current rules? So, he is going to take his marbles and go home….. crying all the way.
Fred Sanford
May 30th, 2012
9:13 am
Oh, my heart. It must be the big one, I’m coming to see you Alice. I actually agree with Saban: “then we’re really not an SEC. We’re really just an East and a West. So why would we even play the games?”
flo-ri-duh
May 30th, 2012
9:16 am
Hopefully Vandy will kick Spurrier’s butt this year – and maybe Kentucky. He deserted Florida for a failed turn at the NFL and then went back to coach at a competitor. He DESERVES to lose.
flo-ri-duh
May 30th, 2012
9:19 am
It’s this Obama culture – everyone is a victim. Sorry I don’t buy it. Spurrier quit playing the victim card and play by the same rules EVERYONE else plays by. Love seeing the OLD ball coach squirm. Must be that red hair dye #2 soaking in to his brain.
cdpridg
May 30th, 2012
9:22 am
Stevie boy just needs to put a sock in it…what a poor loser! This has been the format for 20 yrs. Give Stevie a paccie….for decades until last year Auburn has always been stronger than Arkansas…..how does Stevie feel about that. What a moron he obviously is.
bucket
May 30th, 2012
9:24 am
@ Alphare – since you want to go by rankings I guess you were screaming for UGA to be there in 2007 when UGA ended the season as the #1 ranked SEC team?
Nick
May 30th, 2012
9:26 am
Schedules change and rotate. Teams are up and down. This would not and should not work out every single year. There was a time when Alabama was really bad. There was a time when LSU was bad. With the exception of the perennial cellar dwellers, all the teams that are currently the tops or even in the middle have had down years. And Saban is right, if they don’t count, why play them at all? The fact remains, had USC played in the Dome that night, they’d have gotten wallopped too. Probably worse!
Dawg Bite
May 30th, 2012
9:26 am
Of course all conference games should count. But whoever made the suggestion…… one full game in your division, one-half for a win in other division, maybe not a bad idea? It all goes back to the fact you need to win all of your games period, or the most. Do not lose to a bad team in the other division…USC did and it cost them. SS, quit trying to change the rules to cover your failings of last season!
Alphare
May 30th, 2012
9:26 am
Beast,
“The conference isn’t decided by rankings. It’s decided by wins and losses within the conference.”
Why cannot that be change if it doesn’t make sense, I am sure some Pro formats only count division games instead of entire conference games.
Also, even if you count conference games, there is different way to count them, such as 1/2 or 1/3 instead of 1 for cross-division games.
USC beat UGA head-on last season, have the same number of wins-losses, and ranked higher than UGA. The fact that UGA was selected tells me the rule should be changed. That’s CSS’s point.
jonk
May 30th, 2012
9:29 am
I don’t know what to say Steheeve Spurriher might as well just play with all D2 schools and get all the wins for Sec east, whiny old fart.
Buckeye
May 30th, 2012
9:37 am
This confirms the dogs play in the SEC!SEC! LEAST!
JB
May 30th, 2012
9:40 am
Enter your comments here Richt won’t say it, he has to much class, but Steve, you control your wins. Just win them and quit whining…..Just like Saban said in 2007 ” you gotta win the conference to play in the NC…..Then last year he thought you didn’t. Spurrier, line up and win, the rest takes care of itself.
bucket
May 30th, 2012
9:43 am
With all the changes that are coming in college football this entire discussion may be pointless on the national scene. If the changes are instituted the way the SEC wants, then why would they want to continue playing the SECCG? Unless the SEC caves and agrees with the format of only conference champions playing in the national playoff, then I see no reason to continue playing in the SECCG. Actually, the SECCG is already meaningless if you take last year into account. What advantage did LSU gain by playing in the SECCG? No one exalts them as winning the SEC because they lost to a conference team that didn’t play in the SECCG. If anything Alabama gained an advantage by not playing an extra game.
CSS has a point in that not all SEC teams play a common schedule. However, I doubt CSS would be complaining if the shoe were on the other foot, he is just trying to yank on CMR’s chain. The fact of the matter is that SCU had a mulligan with the Arkansas game because of the tie-breaker over UGA. The SEC East title came down to a common opponent from the SEC West that both UGA and SCU played @ home. You can’t get anymore even a chance than that! SCU lost at home to a very beatable Auburn team and UGA beat the Tigers soundly. Game over.
Dawg Haus
May 30th, 2012
9:50 am
Stevie, all you had to do was beat Auburn, a team that Georgia annihilated, to get into the Dome.
bucket
May 30th, 2012
9:51 am
“The fact that UGA was selected tells me the rule should be changed. That’s CSS’s point.” Uh, you don’t get selected to play in a conference championship game. That is something that a team has to earn by their play on the field. UGA had a better won/loss record in-conference than South Carolina. “Selected” is what happens with the BCSCG and bowl games.
Beast from the East
May 30th, 2012
9:59 am
Alphare,
Once again, it’s not rankings. While UGA and USC had the same same win/loss total, UGA had the better conference record. One of their losses was OOC. As I stated earlier (along with several others), if USC had taken care of business against Auburn then we wouldn’t have heard a peep out of SOS.
Gary
May 30th, 2012
10:02 am
With that approach there is a good chance that an SEC champion would not make the playoffs if it takes conference champions in the top 6. Say USC wins the east but looses to Bama and LSU in the process. In a rematch USC beats LSU at the SEC championship game. USC would probably be ranked 8 or 9 with 2 losses behind a slew of 1 loss teams. No playoff game for the SEC champ. Very short sighted of the ball coach, but I am guessing he only has a year or two left to care before he finally retires to spend more time at Agusta National.
UGA Insider
May 30th, 2012
10:04 am
Spurrier lost to Auburn at home. UGA trounced Auburn at home. Spurrier is a bad loser. If we don’t beat USCe this year I say fire CMR immediately after the game! No excuses this year.
Douglas
May 30th, 2012
10:06 am
Wow…you know..just a few years ago, UGA played in the east against Florida, Tenn., etc. and also played LSU and Bama in the same year — I didn’t see Spurrier complaining then. Spurrier is just frustrated because he cannot coach USC up enough to win the overall SEC championship. So now he looks for an easy way out. And little twinkie guy: I’m sorry but UGA should have beaten USC last year…you were good but you were also lucky in that game.
Gary
May 30th, 2012
10:08 am
I love people who say the SEC Championship is meaningless. Have you ever been to the game? I know a lot of Georgia fans who were crushed by a game with no meaning. I know a lot of LSU fans who were overjoyed with an amazing second half performance in a meaningless game. Seem like the players really stepped up for a meaningless game. I am sure a lot of them are very proud to hang the banner on their stadium and wear that ring on their finger. Meaningless? It is the second biggest game of the year everyyear. It is bigger than the orange, rose, fiesta, or sugar.
Alphare
May 30th, 2012
10:10 am
Spurrier did win. You thought UGA won lots of game to be East Champ last year? actually, Spurrier won as many, plus, he beat UGA head-on. Better yet, he won all East division games.
Actually his team ranked better than UGA.
But on a technicality, his team didn’t get to play in SEC Champ game. Also on a technicality, UGA got to play in the SEC Champ game.
Beast from the East
May 30th, 2012
10:17 am
How is it a technicality that UGA went 7-1 in the conference and USC went 6-2? And one last time, rankings do not factor into conference standings…only wins/losses. UGA had the easier path with their West division schedule last year. That changes from year to year and every team will benefit at one time or another.
Sissy Dawg
May 30th, 2012
10:21 am
I think it is a great proposal. Champion of a Division ought to be the team in the Division that has the best record against the Division. Georgia always somehow gets a wimpy schedule. If they played Alabama and LSU every year, they would automatically have two more losses and never ever get into the SEC title game..
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
10:22 am
I always thought the Ol Tired Ballcoach was a perfect match for the lame-crocks. The coach and the fans,are just a bunch of cry-babies. My question is, WHICH WAS A CRYBABY FIRST, SPURRIER OR THE LAME-CROCK FANS? That’s kinda like asking which came first, the CHICKEN OR THE EGG???
Alphare
May 30th, 2012
10:24 am
Just checked the Bible again, SEC Champ rule is not in there. That tells me the rule is a man-made rule.
Some Pro formats only count inner-division games, and don’t count cross-division games.
SEC is known for thinking-ahead. Why cannot they think ahead and change the current rule? Such as count cross-division as half, 5th best team within the conference cannot play in conference champ game, or adopt what Spurrier proposed(count cross-division games as 0 instead of 1/2 as I proposed).
Just for you to know, man-made rules can be changed. There English words such as “reform”, “adapt”, “change” etc. There are also English “stubborn”, “outdated” etc.
GTBob
May 30th, 2012
10:26 am
It makes a lot more sense then what they have now and is more reasonable with 7 teams. It would also take away the obvious benefit that some teams have with their permanent cross division rival. Florida always has to play LSU. UGA always has to play Auburn. That isn’t exactly equal.
Chris
May 30th, 2012
10:32 am
All of this is absolute B.S., and Steve Spurrier is full of it. If his team had only one SEC lost and it was against an east rival, and that particular east rival had two SEC losses, all against west teams, Spurrier would want the rule changed back where all SEC games count.
You stupid, ignorant S.C. fans that agree with Spurrier are just reaffirming how dumb you really are.
gt4ever
May 30th, 2012
10:36 am
Richt wishes he was 1/2 the coach Spurrier has become… Maybe one day, but it would seem that Richt is still cutting his teeth… Just imagine Spurrier as the UGA coach, with the same talent.. I have no doubt UGA would already have several MNC…
SiddyBoy
May 30th, 2012
10:37 am
A coach can win a lot of games and championships and still be a loser. That’s Steve Spurrier !!!
Alphare
May 30th, 2012
10:37 am
I have a scenerio for you guys to chew on:
About the recently added SEC-Big12 bowl game. As the current rules states, that bowl game may happen once in a decade.
Let’s say we change the rule so that SEC-Big12 bowl will be played every year. The new rule I propose is: loser of SEC Champ game vs loser of Big12 Champ game.
With the new rule in mind, do you still want the 5th best SEC team to play in SEC Champ game?
Sam Robards, Dawg Fan
May 30th, 2012
10:41 am
If Spurrier had managed to beat a 7-5 Auburn team in Columbia last year (WITH Marcus Lattimore, no less), he wouldn’t be proposing this idea. That’s a fact.
And who’da thunk it? I actually agree with Nick Saban.
RTR22
May 30th, 2012
10:41 am
Much ado about nothing. Play who you play and each game counts. Almost June thankfully and Sept is in sight. Roll Tide
Neutral
May 30th, 2012
10:44 am
@Gary and others
You are sooooo correct. If Spurrier had beaten Auburn by 1 point then SC would have been in the SEC championship game. P.S. That is the same Auburn team that UGa beat by almost 6 TDs…and played “reserves” most of the second half. The bottom line is SC and Spurrier CHOCKED!!!
MurfDawg
May 30th, 2012
10:45 am
The Ole Ball Sack is taking his hatred of UGA to a new level. He is not just a whiny cry baby, but the ultimate, Grand High Boo Hoo of all the whiny cry babies in the world.
Here are the new rules for crowning the SEC East champion:
(With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy)
If you beat East Carolina at home,
you should be the SEC East champion.
If you beat a team that has a Dragon as a mascot,
you should be the SEC East champion.
If you beat the mighty and fearful Wofford Terriers,
You should be the SEC East champion.
If your coach throws his visor more than five times a game,
you should be the SEC East champion.
If your coach still has nightmares about being sacked by Bill Stanfill,
you should get a new coach with a real set of cajones and play by the same rules as everybody else and learn a little sportsmanship when you lose.
Carolina you deserve better!!
DirtyDawg
May 30th, 2012
10:48 am
Hate to admit but Saban’s right…if the games between the SEC East and the SEC West don’t count against Conference standings, why schedule them at all? Might as well do more Sisters of the Poor…then again you couldn’t get folks to come see em.
Neutral
May 30th, 2012
10:50 am
I bet Spurrier won’t bring this up in several years when the Dawgs are playing Bama and LSU……and SC is rotating with Ole Miss and Miss. state.
Switzerland
May 30th, 2012
10:52 am
hey neutral….chocked??? buy a dictionary dbag!
shankit
May 30th, 2012
10:53 am
Let’s carry this over to Baseball.
Scratch the sweep by Cincinatti and the
Braves would be near the top.
gt4ever
May 30th, 2012
10:55 am
Yikes, a lot of very insecure UGA fans….
shankit
May 30th, 2012
10:56 am
Spurrier ain’t got no class.
He don’t pay his golf bet losses.
Still waiting in the locker room at
the VCC for him to get back from
his car to pay Rodgers and Grant.
shankit
May 30th, 2012
10:58 am
Dang, Stanfill, we might have been better off to have
let him beat us.
Gator Mike
May 30th, 2012
11:02 am
All SEC Games should count, and Spurrier is off base on this subject. He seems to think So Car is going to rule the East forever which I seriously doubt. Perhaps he is simply looking at his own time clock in how much longer he will be in Columbia. I hope he never wins another SEC Title even though he is a Gator.
Neutral
May 30th, 2012
11:03 am
@Switzerland
A “choke” is when you have a championship in hand…all you need to do is hit an easy chip shot like beating Auburn
A “chock” is when you duff or shank the chip shot and then try to change the rules to declare yourself the winner…..even though you choked. Get it? Love and kisses, your favorite dirtbag
Delbert D.
May 30th, 2012
11:07 am
Spurrier appears to be playing mind games. All SEC games should count. One big thing facing college football is Slive’s contention that conference championships don’t matter.
Neutral
May 30th, 2012
11:09 am
@gt4ever
Yikes, a lot of bored GT fans reading UGa blogs…..
shankit
May 30th, 2012
11:10 am
Spurrier should be happy he didn’t have to play LSU.
He would have been 10-2 instead of 11-1.
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
11:14 am
I loved it when CMR said “I dont know if he’d feel that way every year ” Wow, Richt actually used a Spurrier Jab AT the Tired Ol Ballcoach! Classic Shot Across The Bow. SOUTH CAROLINA, YOU COULDN’T EVEN BEAT AUBURN!!!
gt4ever
May 30th, 2012
11:15 am
@Neutral
Just an avid sports fan… Kinda humorous to read about all this jealousy with Steve Spurrier.. Hey, just face it… Spurrier will go down as one of the BEST in the business… These insecurities are funny, but SAD…
Neutral
May 30th, 2012
11:16 am
Decory……that is a “lawyer” you quoted. Enough said!!!
Dawg Haus
May 30th, 2012
11:18 am
It’s good to see Richt take subtle shots at that old hack, isn’t it, kingdaddy?
Neutral
May 30th, 2012
11:19 am
@GT4ever
Gotcha and I agree. Spurrier may go down in history as one of the biggest jerks in the history of coaching, but to your point….he is also one of the all-time greatest coaches.
Neutral
May 30th, 2012
11:24 am
@kingdaddy
Right on brother!!!!
Tide Rising
May 30th, 2012
11:26 am
Spurrier has a point. South Carolina should have played in the seccg last year. They did in fact play one of the 3 SEC west behemoths in Arkansas while Georgia escaped having to play Bama, LSU, or Ark. And its a sure bet UGA would have lost to all 3 of them probably by blowout proportions. I can’t really blame the ole ball coach for being mad.
Techies
May 30th, 2012
11:27 am
What are you tech fans doing on this site? You know that part of Tech’s NCAA punishment for Tech’s 2nd major NCAA probation this century is no venting. Bad Bugs! Tech Cheaters get off and shut up!
cdpridg
May 30th, 2012
11:28 am
Ole ball sac….have a tissue….loser…
Walker
May 30th, 2012
11:29 am
I guess Steve will want to change this again when the schedule changes and Ga. is playing Al. and LSU. and he has the other teams. Look at history and he didn’t complain when Ga, was playing those teams and he was playing the others. He is a crazy old coach who can’t remember what he does form year to year.
Dawg in gatorville
May 30th, 2012
11:30 am
Spurrier is an idiot, it would make the other games worthless in the standings and kill the atmosphere. Him citing the annual game between Alabama and Tennessee, Well memory serves that Auburn has had a few teams over the years that were pretty good and no one complained at UGA that they had to play Auburn every year, and just a few short years ago the schedule lined up just right to assure that UGA would have no chance at the SEC. I can not wait for the SC game this year. If the Dawgs are men with a spine they will beat the gamechickens by 2 td’s.. Go Dawgs!
Death Penalty
May 30th, 2012
11:31 am
When the schedules for last year were originally set Tennessee wasn’t too far removed from being good and Alabama wasn’t too far removed from being really bad. The rotating cross-divisional opponents is what makes the current system as fair as possible. Nobody knows who the “stronger” teams are going to be in any given year – they’re just guesses until they suit up and play. Spurrier’s idea is inherently flawed and paints his as a 60-something yr. old baby. I’m embarrassed for him.
Dawg Haus
May 30th, 2012
11:33 am
Tide Rising, Spurrier has a point because it benefits him this particular year. The time will come when Georgia will have to play both Bama and LSU (a la 2008) in the same year and I can guarantee you nobody will hear him crowing about this then.
shankit
May 30th, 2012
11:34 am
What has happened to the rivalry with the Gators?
Where are all the Gaters?
All we have now is a bunch of chickens
Dawg Haus
May 30th, 2012
11:35 am
Agreed, Death Penalty!
JacketTed
May 30th, 2012
11:35 am
Spurries’s age is showing. This is a horribly thought out idea. Flawed from every angle.
I have a Question??????
May 30th, 2012
11:38 am
When did Spurrier become a Left-Wing Bed-Wetter?
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
11:39 am
Tide is going out
You should be worried about UGA. S.C. played 3 SECw teams and were 1-2…UGA played 3 SECw teams and was 2-1… We both played Aub. and Miss.St., while S.C. played Arkansas and got drilled at home, UGA played LSU, YOU IDIOT, ON THE ROAD (ATL.) Who would you rather play, Arkansas or LSU? Take your UGAbashing back to Alabama and worry about how many games you’re gonna lose this year! I see at least 3!!!
DawginLex
May 30th, 2012
11:41 am
To coach Spurrier:
It’s real simple son.
From the time you played Georgia last year, you played common opponents of Georgia except for Arkansas.
You lost to Arkansas
If that was your only other loss, because of beating Georgia head to head, you still win the East.
Then, because of your silly loyalty to a drunk QB who should have been kicked off the team earlier, you lost to AUBURN AT HOME. We beat auburn 45-7 and could have scored 70 on them.
YOU LOST TO AUBURN
That is not our fault
That is not the SEC’s fault
It is your fault
Man up and quit whining
sukkit
May 30th, 2012
11:43 am
Tide Rising, you know your argument is weak when you have to refer to Arkansas as a “behemoth.” That’s like saying South Carolina is a “behemoth.” Arky and USCjr are the Members Only jackets of the SEC. They’re having their brief moment in the sun but will be yesterday’s news faster than you can say, “Tanneyhill’s got cool hair.”
Tide Rising
May 30th, 2012
11:45 am
Dawg Haus,
Yes. But at that time in the future where UGA has to play say both Bama and LSU in the same year it won’t be fair to UGA just like it wasn’t really fair to USCeast last year. I’m not saying that we should turn the whole system upside- just that its a consideration.
Les Miles feels the same way also since in years past they always had Florida as their traditional cross division rival. Back when Fla was at its peak and pretty much ruling the east as well as the conference it really wasn’t fair that LSU had to play them every year while Bama, Ark., and AU usually got a pass on playing the gators. It usually meant an automatic loss for LSU which is one reason why they never even made it to the seccg until 2001.
Neutral
May 30th, 2012
11:48 am
Just a few years ago LSU, Arkansas and Bama feared playing Florida, Tennessee and UGa. This same (spurrier) argument could have been made by those “west” teams in the mid 2000’s. The SEC schedule is cyclic and in 2-3 years Spurrier’s rule change would be to UGa’s advantage and SC’s disadvantage. I vote for Spurrier’s rule change, but let’s wait until 2014 so we can get prepared for the change…and when we are playing the tough teams again!!! My money says that Spurrier would want his proposed change in place this year……and he would vote against his own proposal if the changes took place 2-3 seasons from now.
shankit
May 30th, 2012
11:49 am
If this passed, would it apply to basketball, golf, tennis, gymnastics,
etc.? Or would it just apply to Spurrier coached teams?
Tide Rising
May 30th, 2012
11:50 am
sukkit,
The last 2 years the only regular season losses Ark. has had were 2 losses to Bama, a split with LSU and a split with AU including a loss to AU’s national title team in 2010.. Otherwise they have steamrolled everyone in that time span. Programs ebb and flow but for the past couple of years Ark has been a conference and national power and most certainly superior to anyone in the east. Those are the facts sir.
Q
May 30th, 2012
11:50 am
God, Spurrier is such a little putz………
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
11:51 am
Lex
Man up and quit whinning, really, you realize you are refering to the biggest crybaby in the SEC? (NEXT TO J.FRANKLIN!) Crying is part of The Ol Whiners game! Its how WOMEN OVERPOWER MEN, LOL!! All I’m saying is Good Luck getting him to stop blubbering…
Tide Rising
May 30th, 2012
11:56 am
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
11:39 am
Tide is going out
“You should be worried about UGA”
kingdaddy,
Now THASS FUNNY!!!!
Hmmm
May 30th, 2012
11:57 am
So what happens one day when the east rises and Florida, Tennessee and Georgia become powerhouses again like Alabama and LSU are now. Does the ole ball coach change his mind? Guess he is thinking about the immediate future and his retirement legacy.
South Carolina & Spurrier
May 30th, 2012
12:04 pm
Spurrier and the chickens just got placed on a 3 year Probation for paying football player to live in a nice hotel which caused SC to loss many scholarships for punishment. Why is Surrpier spending time with things he can not change.
cdpridg
May 30th, 2012
12:05 pm
tide…since you know so much about Arky football….which is funny…i guess you would then know that they have had a soft schedule the past years..playing on rotation KY..Vandy…and a down and out UT team. propping Arky winners of NOTHING and historically since being in the conference about the 8th best program makes you look like the joke….but then again your name is tide rising
PMC
May 30th, 2012
12:05 pm
What’s the point of having divisions if the division record does not matter?
That said, Last year is on South Carolina, all they had to do was win thier games. They didn’t. Pobrecito. Maybe if they weren’t housing players in local hotels they could win those games.
PMC
May 30th, 2012
12:06 pm
Spurrier has a good point though, Division games should count more than conference games, otherwise there is no point of being in a division.
cdpridg
May 30th, 2012
12:08 pm
Spurriers time is about up…he is frustrated with coaching in Columbia and is desperate. Realization has hit that he cannot change 100 yrs of losing. A hair better than average is as good as it gets for Spurrier in Columbia
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
12:09 pm
What’s up Dawg Haus & Neutral!
Now,@ EBB TIDE…If you ignore the facts (which you do because you probably aren’t even an Alabama fan) S.C.14—MISS.ST.12, UGA24—MISS.ST.10(SOUNDS LIKE UGA WAS BETTER)…OK, if that didn’t do it for you, how about S.C.13—AUB.—16, UGA45—AUB.—7…(SOUNDS LIKE UGA WAS BETTER AGAIN!) You EBB TIDE aren’t a very smart person if you think UGA didn’t do a better job against the West, than S.C.! PLUS, you’re very immature and don’t need to mess with an Alpha Dawg…
cdpridg
May 30th, 2012
12:10 pm
PMC…yeah it is a good point…until Ole Miss rotates on to schedule
follow the money
May 30th, 2012
12:23 pm
tide rising making partial truths to illustrate his point. If we peel back the onion we will see the whole truth. Truth, the SEC played 2 permanent cross division rivals prior to the 2003 season. Auburn played UGA and UF, LSU played UF and UK, Bama – played UT and Vandy (yes, vandy! how about that home office in birmingham?) How about that? Bama propped up their conference schedule with their annual “rivalry” with Vandy and LSU with Kentucky.
Spike 80DF
May 30th, 2012
12:34 pm
Spurrier lost to Auburn last year and they weren’t one of the supposed “big 3″ from the West.
They didn’t play LSU or Bama either so quit whining. They played Arky and the Dawgs played Ole Miss, get over it.
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
12:34 pm
I think i see the problem here, it was right in front of my eyes the whole time! The KEYWORD being tossed around by ALL the Whiners here is “FAIR”. It’s NOT FAIR! It’s ONLY FAIR! Before you know it, everyone will get a TROPHY, because well, it’s FAIR.LOL…Ok people, we’re going to have to make half of every team, made up with women, because well, it’s only FAIR! I could go on but I’m sure this is boring you too! FAIR is a term made up by LIBERALS so they can EMASCULATE MALES IN AMERICA! Man up Spurrier, quit your insessant crying! You’ve got all the S.C. fans crying too…
uscjimi
May 30th, 2012
12:35 pm
This isn’t the idea that was explained to USC fans this offseason. It was that inter-division games would count as 1/2 games and divisional games count as full games. With the entry of two new teams into the conference, the system for conference scheduling is going through change anyway. It makes sense to consider alternative ideas when considering change rather than after change has been made. USC will still play each east division team every year, as will every other. Which teams cycle onto and off of one teams schedule would still effect the standings, just not as much.
bsg3003
May 30th, 2012
12:40 pm
I don’t see Spurrier’s point. No one made this argument when UGA was passed by UT in 2007, No one made this arguement in 2008 when UGA had to play AU, UA, and LSU in the same year. But low and behold the year when Spurrier ends up losing to Aub and Arky it’s a huge problem with the conference -A “Technicality”
Spurrier how bout you just nut up and win ALL of your games. UGA and USC finished with the same record. We beat Aub they didn’t. Conversation over
follow the money
May 30th, 2012
12:41 pm
Since 14 makes everything so difficult, they conference needs to move to 4 – 4 team pods with a conference semifinal and conference champ game. They also need to move to 9 game conf schedules. Then scheduling would be much easier. you play 3 within pod, 3 cross pod permanent and 3 cross pod rotating. This would yield a home/home with every conference team within 6 years. You could balance the pods (and I would do it without regard for location since this will be for football only) so that rivalries are maintained.
BG
May 30th, 2012
12:44 pm
Every SEC game should count. Spurrier is just a sore loser. Spurrier should have beaten Auburn and then he could have played in the SEC championship game.
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
12:46 pm
Spike80DF
Thanks for reminding me about Ol Miss. Let’s see, that would make UGA 3-1 against SECw…
@ Low Tide
If UGA got to play LSU TWICE!!!!! I’m positive we would have split the series…Hope to see them again this year, because I doubt Alabama will make the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AGAIN THIS YEAR! GO DOGGIES…
Vampire Bill
May 30th, 2012
12:52 pm
If non conference games become unimportant then you will see teams resting their starters more and I think the overall quality of football will suffer. But maybe not, as more players will have a chance to play.. who knows?
Paul in NH
May 30th, 2012
12:54 pm
Alphare
May 30th, 2012
9:26 am
I am sure some Pro formats only count division games instead of entire conference games.
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You might be sure, but you would be wrong. ALL pro formats in the US count all games (NFL, NBA, MLB, WNBA, NHL) – they may use division games in the event of tiebreakers, but that is it.
All of the European leagues (EPL, La Liga, Serie A, DL, etc) count all games. Cricket counts all games. Rugby counts all games.
All pro leagues have games that don’t count – they call them pre-season, exhibitions, friendlies, etc.
ummm duh?
May 30th, 2012
12:55 pm
Ok for the genius who keeps posting that since Georgia was only the 5th ranked team in the SEC they shouldnt be able to play in the championship game, you do realize that South Car was just the 4th ranked team right? Think before you type please
Randall "Pink" Floyd
May 30th, 2012
12:56 pm
As much as I enjoy the permanent cross-division rivals, eliminating them would put more teams from the other division on the schedule year in and year out, and eliminate the need for the Spurrier’s of the world to cry for diaper changes.
ummm duh?
May 30th, 2012
1:01 pm
Conference championships dont really matter when deciding a national title. Not all conferences are equal. Sorry thats just a fact. If so then maybe Conference USAs champ deserves a spot in the playoff too? I mean after all, they are the champs of a conference right? Fact is that the 3rd best team in the SEC could be the champion of most other confs out there. Playoff should be based on team rank. Do you really think any of the other conference champs were better then Alabama last year? If so youre dreaming
Paul in NH
May 30th, 2012
1:11 pm
There are some interesting comments about how it’s going to be tough when UGA has to play Alabama and LSU in the same season. The only way that is going to happen is if they play one of them in the SECCG. With an 8 game schedule, 7 in Division and Auburn out of Division there is no room for 2 other cross Division games.
Argentina Blue
May 30th, 2012
1:11 pm
All conference games should count. However, how about just having one fixed inter-divisional game in the SEC and ACC? For Georgia it would be Auburn and for Georgia Tech it would be Clemson. That would free-up the teams to resume some of their old non-conference rivalries on an annual basis. The Jackets could play Auburn every year and the Dawgs could do the same with Clemson. They’re natural rivals anyway and there’s no reason for them not to play.
charliedawg
May 30th, 2012
1:12 pm
Let’s see if the ‘Ole Whiner’ likes the idea so much that he’s willing to implement it when UGA plays Alabama or LSU when they don’t play one of those teams as their rotating West team. I bet the ‘Ole Whiner’ aka ‘King of the Off Season Indefinite Suspension’ would have a different opinion.
Do you know if Gene Chizik has spoken up and said, “Gee Steve, all you had to do was beat my crappy team at home last year and you would’ve gone to the title game. UGA put the water boys in to avoid running up the score for Pete’s sake.”
Alphare
May 30th, 2012
1:21 pm
I agree all conference games should count. That’s why you are in the same conference.
But inner-division games are more important. Otherwise, what’s the point to be in the same division (except scheduling)?
So I say count division game as 1, cross-division as 1/2, with head-to-head as the tie-breaker. Apply this rule to last year, USC should play in SECCG.
7576DAWG
May 30th, 2012
1:32 pm
Spurrier is not wanting a true division winner. The reason you have to count all of your games that you play in the SEC is because a true division winner has got to be decided from the entire seasons conference record. If South Carolina had not had Lattimore playing last year at hos peek, Georgia would have won the game by 3 touchdowns even with Murray’s panic collapse give away demonstration.
If you don’t count all SEC games when deciding the division winners then every good team would be a fool not to schedule their hardest games early in the season just in case their best player tore an ACL and couldn’t play the rest of the year. I agree that the best team in the East was South Carolina last year up until Lattimore got hurt but after that South Carolina was not the best Eastern team and did not deserve to be the Eastern Division winner just because they beat Georgia early in the year.
Beanie
May 30th, 2012
1:42 pm
It doesnt matter beat Auburn USC. UGA did by 4 TD”s!! Reggie Ball vs Georgia 0-4. Aaron Murray vs Georgia tech 2-0!!!
georgiasouthernalum
May 30th, 2012
1:43 pm
When will UGA play Bama, LSU, or Arkanas? and why do they play Vandy every year? Its because they can’t beat a good team 0-5 against top teams! Its the Schedule that saved CMR job not that UGA was any better and not a top twenty team.
mreed14
May 30th, 2012
1:43 pm
A lot of people fail to see that the power balance in the SEC switches back and forth. The West is stronger now but that wasn’t the case a few years ago and a couple of years from now the East will be stronger again. Spurrier loves to make a big stink when things don’t go his way but if the shoe had be on the other foot he would be all for counting games against the west. Saban is right that if only division games count towards a champion then why play those games against the other division.
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
1:43 pm
It sounds to me like some posters on this blog ,are AFRAID to play out of conference teams, so they want to change the rules…Why didn’t ALL OF YOU THAT WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES, SAY SOMETHING EARLIER??? Why now? Can’t you losers just come on out and TELL THE TRUTH? This makes y’all look so weak. YOU SISSYS DON’T BELONG IN THE SEC, IT’S A MANS CONFERENCE AND THERE IS NO ROOM FOR SISSYS…HAVE SOME PRIDE MAN! The rotation was in your favor before, be patient and it will come around again. Saban and Richt are right and if you are a crybaby, you don’t matter anyway.LOL…
mreed14
May 30th, 2012
1:48 pm
maybe you should stick to talking about furman and wofford….UGA plays Vandy every year because they’re in the eastern division of the SEC like Georgia is. Don’t talk about things you really don’t have a basic understanding of georgiasouthernalum. Can’t wait to drop 50 plus on the eagles this year.
Jim
May 30th, 2012
1:51 pm
USC was not the better team at the end of the year. They had so many injuries that Spurrier thought about playing his son.
Josh Smith for 3
May 30th, 2012
1:53 pm
SC could have clinched the division against a weak Auburn team, at home, and WITH Marcus Lattimore. Instead they scored 13 total points and lost by a field goal. Sour grapes indeed.
Alphare
May 30th, 2012
1:55 pm
Spurrier’s formula:
1. inner-division games are the most important, count as 1
2. cross-division games are the 2nd important, count as 0
3. out-of-conference games are the least important, count as 0
Current SEC formula:
1. inner-division games are the most important, count as 1
2. cross-division games are the 2nd important, count as 1
3. out-of-conference games are the least important, count as 0
My proposed formula:
1. inner-division games are the most important, count as 1
2. cross-division games are the 2nd important, count as 1/2
3. out-of-conference games are the least important, count as 0
If you feel all games should count for something, here is a new formula:
1. inner-division games are the most important, count as 1
2. cross-division games are the 2nd important, count as 1/2
3. out-of-conference games are the least important, count as 1/4
7576DAWG
May 30th, 2012
2:00 pm
Spurrier would have a legitimate argument if he had not had control of whether his team represented the SEC as the Eastern winners. All he had to do was beat Auburn. When South Carolina beat Georgia that meant that South Carolina had to lose TWO games and Georgia would have to not lose any more SEC games which ended up happening but South Carolina can only blame themselves.
Spurrier’s request will never be approved.
LHarding Dawg
May 30th, 2012
2:04 pm
The bottom line is all conference games should count or you don’t have a conference. Also, one reason for increasing the number of teams in the SEC (TAM & Mo) was to negotiate a better TV deal. That’s is going to be hard to do if all conference games don’t count the same. Personally I think it’s an insane idea.
georgiagirlinsc
May 30th, 2012
2:04 pm
Let’s get one thing straight…. UGA lost one Eastern Division game to USC and they handed them the win with mistakes. But the loss stands as much as we all hated it.
UGA won the Eastern Divison title by winning more games as was the rule, Spurrier is doing what Spurrier does trying to make things better for himself. I don’t blame him but I agree with Saban in that it wouldn’t be the SEC if cross divison games didn’t count.
United the SEC is the best conference in the country. Period, end of story. East or West the SEC is the best.
I love my DAWGS and our Coach. GO DAWGS!
LHarding Dawg
May 30th, 2012
2:09 pm
Every year Spurier has a different rant. Last year he wanted to pay his players out of his own pocket, this year he wants to change how the SEC counts their games. Both suggestions were, of course, voted down. I wonder what next year brings.
the evil genius has done it again
May 30th, 2012
2:16 pm
got everyone all stirred up.
what he did was take another shot at georgia….whom he hates more than anyone……and everyone is all riled up about it.
what richt should have said is “we don’t need these rule changes. if coach spurrier could beat vanderbilt or auburn, he wouldn’t have anything to whine about.”
georgiasouthernalum
May 30th, 2012
2:20 pm
We scored more points on NC than anyone did in the mighty SEC. It was a better game SEC Chumps
truedawg
May 30th, 2012
2:22 pm
are you kidding me? sour grapes turn to WHINE!! Steve’o you should have beat auburn..plain and simple..you lost to the worst auburn team in 5 years. You did what chickens do..laid an egg. You didn’t hear any coaches from the west crying about div games back in the 90’s or early 2000’s did you? Steveo hates UGA, always has becuase he couldn’t play at UGA.., then couldn’t beat UGA as a player. Get ready for a beat down by the hands of the dawgs this year visor boy. If Steve wants to go to the SEC game, buy a ticket cry baby!! GATA!!
GO DAWGS!!
DOGGIE IN NC
May 30th, 2012
2:28 pm
Alphare – those your legs, or are you riding on the back of a chicken! I live in NC and can see the big L on your forehead from here! Folks, the reason the chickens are whinning is not because of last year – it’s because they expect it to happen to them again this year. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of loosers! GO DOGGIES!
Spurrier is in Your Heads
May 30th, 2012
2:29 pm
When you arrive in Columbia the 1st week of October, look out for the fake punt. Melvin Ingram ran over one poor little fella like he was still in the Pee Wee leagues…76 yards for the Halftime lead.
Oh, yeah…Ingram also had the game-clinching TD in the 4th quarter when your QB coughed up the ball thanks to Clowney’s Heimlich maneuver.
AdMan
May 30th, 2012
2:29 pm
Hey Steve…you want some cheese with that whine? Does anyone really think he’d be singing the blues if he thought he could possibly beat Georgia this coming season. Word on the street is Lattimore has healed up after his knee injury last year but is now slow as a turtle….and Spurrier knows it.Carolina might win nine games this year but they WON’T beat Georgia….you can take that to the bank! Spurrier has become an average coach in the SEC and he hates it…..nobody is scared of him anymore……His idea of good coaching is to discredit and put down his rival coaches…he shows absolutely no class when he does this….
Spurrier is in Your Heads
May 30th, 2012
2:45 pm
The funniest thing about Ingram’s 76 yard TD was Coach Richt threw a temper tantrum on the sidelines…he threw his notebook practically to mid-field in disgust. SMH Watch the replay…
DawginLex
May 30th, 2012
2:51 pm
None of this will matter after SC loses to Arkansas,Georgia and florida
Grantham's the man
May 30th, 2012
2:53 pm
Funny. I never heard Spurrier complaining about how unfair it was for him and his Florida team when they had a bye week before the Ga- Fla game for about 10 years running.
Never heard him complain in the years that Ga has a much tougher schedule.
Old Ball Coach needs to quit looking into the mirror,and worring about his last few years.
Dawg Haus
May 30th, 2012
2:59 pm
Too many people these days are worried about changing the system to make it work for them. Most of the time, it’s a lot easier to just learn the rules and play by them.
Dawg Haus
May 30th, 2012
3:00 pm
Good to hear from you, kingdaddy! Hope you’re doing well.
Obama Sin Laden
May 30th, 2012
3:14 pm
Who really cares what the old ball sac..i mean coach thinks
Rick James
May 30th, 2012
3:28 pm
Spurrier stills holds a grudge against Georgia for beating his Florida team in 1966 and knocking them out of the national title game.I guess he will just add last year to his list.All his team had to do as beat Auburn and he’s in.He’d rather dwell on losing to Arkansas and Georgia’s schedule.Winning controls your destiny,you loss to Auburn.Get over it.
DawgBrain
May 30th, 2012
3:29 pm
Spurrier has whipped our Dawgs too much. He has earned the right to speak anyway he pleases,unfortunatly.
Mayo
May 30th, 2012
3:44 pm
He cries no matter what. He’s too old to grow up. Shut up and win ‘em all or sit down and take your med.
just a fan
May 30th, 2012
3:49 pm
Hey this is off topic but I havent been on as much since spring practice ended I heard something about Alec Ogeltree getting suspended but wasnt sure how many games or if in fact he did get suspended
shankit
May 30th, 2012
4:16 pm
Braves move back into first place.
Interdivision sweep by Cincinatti does not count.
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
4:23 pm
Spurrier is really looking for a reason to quit football and get the heck out of Columbia. He’s tired and he sees he has no chance this year either. Dang-it why does UGA always make The Tired Ol Crybaby want to throw his visor. One of these days he’s gonna poke someones eye out with that thing. As long as hes crying, I’m happy…
rbirealty
May 30th, 2012
4:25 pm
Was Spurrier crying when South Carolina didn’t play Alabama and LSU and still didn’t win the East? Come on dude, shut up and have your team win MORE SEC games than every other team like 2010 and it’s not a problem. By the way, we beat Auburn and you didn’t. We weren’t whining about losing to SC because we knew you all still had to keep winning. We did so don’t talk about it, be about it!
Jono
May 30th, 2012
4:26 pm
Remember, before there was an East and West, that was the format. TOTAL CONFERENCE RECORD SHOULD STAY. Just win ALL your conference games and quit whining.
GATORS BACK in '12
May 30th, 2012
4:31 pm
SOS is whining and UGA winning when everyone is down in the East and playing the easiest schedule in SEC history shouldn’t be new news. The only time they have even won the East is when UF had Zook, South Carolina had Holtz, and Fulmer was in the tank. Then the west didn’t have Miles, Petrino or Chizik. They had Tubberville at AU and Saban at LSU. Thats it.
Even with that to consider all of their bumper stickers, t-shirts, and banners don’t have “champions” printed on them. Georgia might (and I emphasize might) win the East again because of their schedule (although none of the wins they are inking on their schedule are anywhere close to guaranteed), I wouldn’t be surprised to see those choke artists lose 4-5 games.
Now here come the crusted jabs about jean shorts and a 1 year winning streak in Jacksonville.
snake
May 30th, 2012
4:32 pm
I think Saban and Richt are right. Go figure. The east and west SEC are the same conference.—Get over it and play ball!!
UGA Grad
May 30th, 2012
4:33 pm
What happens in a few years when the tide turns and the rivalries are no longer the top teams (remember when, Alabama, Auburn,LSU were not strong) and Tenn., Florida, and UGA were the teams to beat. The strength of the teams will always change thru time. Maybe they should just let Steve schedule his teams the year before and then he could pick the weakest teams in the SEC each year. I would think if anyone would be complaining it would be the second place team in the west the last couple of years. They probably should have been in the championship game. But that will change in a few years when the power of teams shift. What if Steve had won every game including the teams in the west and then had lost to Georgia in the east and missed out because of that one loss? There is always going to be something to argue about. Leave it the same.
Spurrier is in Your Head
May 30th, 2012
4:33 pm
BTW, you guys plan on kicking all FGs on 3rd down this season? Just asking…
Plus, you dawgs haven’t figured out the beauty in this…after we wax you in Columbia, if we do stumble against LSU & Arkansas and finish 10-2, you will likely win the East BUT the CFB World will know we are the better team. Your East title will be universally tainted due to receiving a cupcake schedule from the league. Simply Brilliant!
snake
May 30th, 2012
4:35 pm
It is what it is—
scottydawg3
May 30th, 2012
4:39 pm
Buzz……….Why are you on here..In case you didnt know Tech has only beat Georgia 4 times the last 20years……….freakin nerdball
Alphare
May 30th, 2012
4:45 pm
DOGGIE IN NC,
not a rooster fan here. Actually I proposed the rule change before Spurrier did. I did last year. I have been saying for a while the 5th best conference team should never play in the conference champ game, just like the 5th best national team should never play in the NC game.
GATORS BACK in '12
May 30th, 2012
4:51 pm
I love how Georgia never actually loses a game. They are generous (or just plain stupid) enough to “hand games to their opponents”. Here is the clue phone Dawg fans…..ring ring…. IF YOU DIDN’T SUCK ON SPECIAL TEAMS, COULD HAVE PROTECTED YOUR QB, AND HAD ANY CLUE HOW TO STOP MARCUS LATTIMORE you wouldn’t have “handed over the game”.
Georgia didn’t give that game to South Carolina. They just weren’t as good as what you thought they were, and that goes for the start of the season to the end. Need proof? You LOST to every decent team on your schedule. Every last one of them……or should I say all 4 of them.
Just curious…..did we give you the game in JAX last year? As I recall we were pretty much kicking your teeth in until the officials gave you a couple extra chances and your QB
martyboxing
May 30th, 2012
4:54 pm
The gamechickens keep speaking about winning all the games in the east and not going to the championship game. First that team only has one east title in the history of the school and no SEC titles. They have only had a respectful team for the past two years. Georgia would have blown them out last year if the chickens Defense and Special teams didn’t score four touchdowns in a game won by three points. The gamechickens are not a threat in the east or west or even the ACC Retire Spurrier all mouth
bucket
May 30th, 2012
5:08 pm
So Alphare – since you never answered my question earlier and just to be sure: since you are for the best overall team representing their conference and you have been for awhile, you were screaming for UGA to be in the SECCG in 07 when they finished the year ranked #2 in the nation?
The Real Brains
May 30th, 2012
5:13 pm
I understand what Coach Spurrier is saying, however you have to count all the games, and not playing the best teams in the league for 3 years straight( ummmmm UGA) does not make your team the second best team in the league and is pretty poorly done in the league office. We all realize that UF and Tn in other years were pretty good but now the weight has shifted and it looks like UM is going to catch the brunt of the punishment this year in the place of UGA’s normal turn in the rotation.
UGA won the division but their play against ranked teams the past 3 years really reflects how far down they have actually fallen in the SEC pecking order and the National Pecking order.
RE: Martyboxing
May 30th, 2012
5:19 pm
“IF the chickens Defense and Special teams didn’t score four touchdowns…”
Reminds me of an old country parable that simply states, “If my Aunt had onions, she would’ve been my Uncle.”
Stop whining! You gave up 45 pts in your own backyard & lost. Your only quality win last year was…
You lost to every bowl team 1 game above .500. There’s no ‘IF’ in that!!!
bucket
May 30th, 2012
5:20 pm
@ The Real Brains – I don’t see any UGA fans saying UGA was the 2nd best team in the league last year. LSU and Alabama were clearly the 2 best teams in the league, but the conference rules are not set-up to get the 2 best teams in the SECCG, they are set-up to get an East winner vs. a West winner. SCU was 6-2 in the conference last year and UGA was 7-1, thus UGA won the East. Very rarely since the SECCG was conceived has the title game pitted the actual 2 best teams against eachother.
Savannahstang66
May 30th, 2012
6:10 pm
SCar, Spurrier, administration, staff and Fans are the biggest whiners I’ve ever seen…Hopefully one day they can play and W I N by the rules in place rather than whine and change to try and affect them in a positive way…JUST WIN WHEN IT COUNTS SCAR..and none of this matters…
Older & Wiser
May 30th, 2012
6:36 pm
Enter your comments here
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
6:39 pm
If this was a perfect world, everyone would get a trophy, and if the word “if” was a bottle of whisky, everyone would get DRUNK!!!
leftygolfer
May 30th, 2012
6:40 pm
Let’s not schedule the other division if they aren’t going to count anyway and schedule games easy games to pad the record and stats
shankit
May 30th, 2012
6:49 pm
I say pee on the crystal trophy.
Let’s let the SEC come up with their own trophy.
Get back to smash arse football. Let the Big
Ten or twelve, and the PAC 8 OR 10 OR 12 have
the crystal. It will just get broken next recruiting season
anyway. Let’s play smash arse football, Dawgs, bring
on Bama, LSU, Arkansas, etc. It will fill up the stadium.
Let ESPN, BCS, pollsters live with the Rose and Fiesta Bowls.
Winners of the East and West play in the Sugar Bowl for
the South Has Already Risen Bowl.
Older & Wiser
May 30th, 2012
6:52 pm
Spurrier’s proposal actually reduces the odds of having the best two teams in the conference championship game by placing too much emphasis on too few games. First, footballs teams are up and down throughout the season, depending on injuries, suspensions, schedule (bye weeks), etc., so beating the same team in week one or week twelve could say very different things. Sometimes even a good team simply does not show up mentally to play. This factor is more likely to even out when counting all conference games rather than only division games. Second, the best team does not always win. Again, when counting the entire conference schedule things are more likely to even out. Spurrier’s proposal, therefore, relies on faulty assumptions about the relative importance of division victories in selecting teams for the conference championship.
shankit
May 30th, 2012
7:13 pm
I say any state that carries Obama in the upcoming election,’
their state university should not be considered to play in the
Sugar Bowl.
Spike 80DF
May 30th, 2012
7:25 pm
actually shankit, Obama would require all SEC revenue be “redistributed” among all the lesser conferences to level the playing field.
Carolina Dawg
May 30th, 2012
7:30 pm
Pease Spurrier, you showed you could not beat an SEC West team what makes you think you could have do it at the dome.Quite trying to change the rules to suit you . You have taken USC as far as you are going to take them . It will be down hill from here .
shankit
May 30th, 2012
7:33 pm
Editor: I am from the ol’ scooll, a Valdosta Wildcat, Bazemore, Hyder, and
our current coach, Rance Gillespie. I love these blogs, old and retired, but
I am really concerned where college football is going. As a kid, I looked forward
to receiving the Atlanta Journal Constitution paper every Sunday morning to see
where Tech was extending their some 40 game winning streak, and the poor ol’
Dawgs under Johnny (can’t even remember his last name), but they did kick
rated Michigan’s butt. The current situation with college football is now driven
by the Media, Cash, etc. I can remember in 1942 when Georgia won the Harris
poll No. 1, which recognized championships after Bowls, and Ohio State won
the AP NC, which recognized NC’s after season’s end. The Ohio State turned
down a chance to play Georgia in the Rose Bowl (which the Dawgs Typical of
the Big Ten back then. I am old and tired of the current state of college football
especially ESPN, etc. Let’s just get back to ol’ fashioned rivalries, and the
heck with the Crystal trophy. It detracts from the good ol’ days when Tech
was the MAN, pee on Bud Wilkinson.
shankit
May 30th, 2012
7:38 pm
Spike 80DF -RIght on. The distribution would be after taxation.
DawgGrad94
May 30th, 2012
7:45 pm
Boy… Carolina has a couple of good seasons in the past 4 decades and they think they can rewrite the rules to their favor. Aren’t you guys still new to the SEC? Beat Georgia 10 times in a row and then you can have some room for making suggestions. Spurrier will do anything to put himself over UGA… losing that game in 77 never left you, did it Ball Coach. Still a Gaytor punk…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKNTu-EssjU&feature=related
Godawgs
May 30th, 2012
7:54 pm
Every REAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL FAN knows that the reason why Georgia won the East and Carolina didn’t. Carolina lost to Auburn and Georgia didn’t. Spurrier is just mad bc he can’t dominate the SEC with Carolina like he did with Florida.
Tdawg
May 30th, 2012
8:24 pm
Well for all of you loons that think that SC should have been declared champs. Georgia soundly beat a west conference team (Auburn) that man handled SC. If SC couldn’t beat a lowly Auburn team then it had no business in the dome. Having an over rated Arkansas team punk them out the way they did was embarrassing at best. It wasn’t like they lost to LSU and Alabama for crying out loud. Georgia beat all of their west conference foes and outside of LSU, beat the one team (Miss State) that gave Alabama fit’s. SC finished second in the SEC East and that is where they deserved to finish. Lets say we do as Spurrier suggest. Which may shock you to hear. I agree with him. Only games played in your half of the conference should count against you. Problem with that is though is what if, let’s say Florida and Tennessee were to end in a tie for the east division crown. Let’s say that Tennessee beat Florida and SC beat Tennessee and Florida beat SC. In the tie breaker Tenn would be division camps because of the head to head thing. Why? I’m more impressed with Florida because they beat the team that beat Tenn. I mean why should Tenn be declared division champs when they couldn’t even beat the 3rd or 4th best team in the division. If we don’t count west conference games, then when the division you play in were to end in co-champs, then a playoff game should decide the conference winner. If Alabama deserved a shot at the title when they weren’t even tied for their conference title, then there shoud be a playoff to determined who the real camps are when there is a tie with in the division for the number one spot,. For those that would cry about ending rival games that’s BS. Tennessee and Alabama, Auburn and Georgia can still play. They just wouldn’t count as a conference loss.
Tdawg
May 30th, 2012
8:35 pm
Bucket you don’t have the faintest idea as what the he!! you are talking about. You definitly don’t know a dam thing about SEC football. Except for last season I will grudgingly agree with you about, the SEC championship game evey single year has pitted the two best team’s in the SEC. Name me one other time it didn’t. You show your football IQ with that statement.
Orange12
May 30th, 2012
8:45 pm
I tend to agree with Coach Spurrier. USC beat UGA head-up and lost to two SEC powerhouses who UGA didn’t play. Plus, UGA lost their mancard in the bowl game to Michigan State.
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
8:48 pm
Spike & shankit
What makes you guys think there will be any funds left to redistribute? Lol…4 more years of obamma, and I don’t see how anyone could afford to go to a ballgame. The only people who could afford paying for a ticket would be Government employees , the unions that voted for him and college professors. If I just offended anyone, then that’s too bad. You offended me by putting this POTUS in office…
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
8:53 pm
Orange12
NAME THE TWO POWERHOUSES? Arkansas and???
Orange12
May 30th, 2012
8:56 pm
Yeah Kingdaddy, my bad. I saw it as soon as I posted it and was praying nobody saw.
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
9:00 pm
Orange U funny
Michigan St. WOULD HAVE DESTROYED AUBURN, WHO WE DESTROYED, WHO EMBARASSED S.C. IN COLUMBIA…LOL, ORANGE YOU CLEVER!!! NOPE…
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
9:01 pm
Orange 12
Forget that last post…lol…
Orange12
May 30th, 2012
9:06 pm
Yeah, I lost my credability card.
kingdaddy
May 30th, 2012
9:13 pm
Orange
No bro, we all screw the pooch sometimes. Lots of people waiting for me to mess up, but I do it all the time…Nobody is perfect on this blog…
russell davis
May 30th, 2012
10:33 pm
If they do that then i thank the teams that play for the national championship should have a divison title and not have two teams from the same conference should play !!!!
dawgenuff
May 30th, 2012
10:40 pm
Shankit, It was Johnny Griffith,and don’t you forget it! again!
Cmdawg99
May 30th, 2012
10:42 pm
If you couldn’t beat aweburn what makes you thing you would have beat lsu. The schedules will rotate and we will be playin the alabamas and lsu’s of the world
dawgenuff
May 30th, 2012
10:55 pm
Shankit,your reference to Ohio State turning down a chance to play UGA,is similar to 2007,when USC west turned down a chance to play UGA in the Rose Bowl and instead played Illinois.
Cmdawg99
May 30th, 2012
10:59 pm
Stevie wants only 5 games to matter to help determine a champion. So you can lose the other 7 and play in the championship game. Riiiiiiiight!!!! Better yet if that ever went through, he would play lattimore those 5 games and save him for the conference title game then for the national title. A 5 -7 team could win the whole thing would not help pur current situation.
dawgenuff
May 30th, 2012
11:05 pm
To all who cannot buy a clue, until Missouri and Texas A&M came into the SEC, UGA for 2012, was scheduled to play Clemson,USCe,Alabama, LSU, Tenn.,Florida,and Auburn. As well as Vandy and Kentucky and Ga.Tech Then the schedule changed to include Missouri.
Paul in NH
May 30th, 2012
11:57 pm
dawgenuff
May 30th, 2012
11:05 pm
To all who cannot buy a clue, until Missouri and Texas A&M came into the SEC, UGA for 2012, was scheduled to play Clemson,USCe,Alabama, LSU, Tenn.,Florida,and Auburn. As well as Vandy and Kentucky and Ga.Tech Then the schedule changed to include Missouri.
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UGA replaced Alabama with Missouri. They were not slated to play either LSU or Clemson in 2012.
ibdawg
May 31st, 2012
12:06 am
Seriously Spurrier? I mean, I don’t need more reasons to disagree with you but let’s just start by saying: 46-15-2. If we have to we can bring up some
old numbers you might remember like: 1966 and 27-10. Get over it Steve. Take your 90’s Gator revenge years, your USC retirement golf package and shut up.
Cmdawg99
May 31st, 2012
12:58 am
Hey Stevie. Don’t you want to two best teams playing in the SECCG?…LOL
Cmdawg99
May 31st, 2012
1:00 am
Daggum auto correct
kingdaddy
May 31st, 2012
8:45 am
Doggies, do this for me this morning, turn off everything in your house that makes noise and listen very carefully. That sound you’ll hear will be little stevie crying so loud, we can hear him in Columbia.LOL…”I’ll GET YOU NEXT YEAR RICHT!!!”WAAAAAAAAAAA….
NCDAWG
May 31st, 2012
10:44 am
Spurrier is an dick, but a good coach i admit
icedawg
May 31st, 2012
10:52 am
Doesn’t matter much when you are winning them all. When the shoe is on the other foot, well, that’s a different story. Get an AD like we’ve got that schedules gimmes.
i dropped my fried twinkie
May 31st, 2012
10:59 am
Sorry guys, I’m an idiot.
Dawg '88
May 31st, 2012
12:56 pm
Spurrier got it handed to him about the “division games” only counting.
As CMR said, I am sure that last year he would have liked the rule but if the shoe had been on the other foot….his big mouth would be shut!
And one more thing Spurrier….the difference wasn’t the opponent. UGA played Auburn also. Both played them at home. UGA routed them. SCU lost to them….win that game big mouth and you would have won the East.
Spurrier = Sore loser = All around jerk
Can’t change 2011….suck it up South Carolina and Spurrier!
You revel in the win at UGA…but what good did it do you…none!
2011 SEC EAST Champions…..Georgia Bulldogs!
Bet that stings….stings bad
Dog in Nam
June 1st, 2012
5:08 am
spurrier is not a dick or a jerk, i’ve met him(years ago in nyc, and my former best friend, wayne mcduffie told me many times spurrier was a hell of a good guy, i also found him to be that way) he’s just trying to set up a temporary advantage for his few remaining years, but he’s definitely not a jerk…..and another thing, why does everyone so painfully agree with coach saban….almost all he has are salient thoughts everyday of his life….why would it pain any uga fan to agree with a brilliant man like coach saban. i love coach richt, but if he left us for another job and we outbid alabama for coach saban, he would love to coach uga….why do you think he totally revised ua’s recruiting strategy to make our state his # 1 priority….I like kirby smart, a good friend of mine, but that was all nick saban….and he would love to have all the talent we have in our high schools come to play for him at uga if he were coach here…and he would be for the right money…….he’s right about the east west thing destroying the sec, but then he almost always right….i love uga as much as any of you guys, but get off saban’s back….he’s a very cool guy……i’m bill holmes, bba 1971 uga now living for past 6 years in vietnam….i love coach richt and the dogs and i think we will be hell on wheels this year and for several years to come…..we have great coaches and superior talent……but i can only watch via slingbox set on a cable box at a friend’s house in athens….but i don’t miss a minute of it…i love it…sec stay the same and uga go win the damn thing outright, i believe we can and will this year
DawgBrain
June 1st, 2012
10:43 am
Spurrier may make UGA eat dirt again this year. Wait and see if we pay him back
jalex49
June 1st, 2012
2:56 pm
Much ado-about nothing of importance. This year is another year and to the teams in the East, want to be the champ? Win the games and quit complaining.