Despite Harvey-Clemons drama, Georgia brings in strong class
ATHENS — Greetings from Butts-Mehre Heritage Hall. Yeah, I’m still here.
Been an interesting day, as you may have noticed. It looked like it was going to be a nice smooth national signing day and a largely positive one for Georgia. The Bulldogs had gotten good news on two of their main targets early in the day, missed out on a couple of other targets later, and coach Mark Richt and Rodney Garner told us all about what was right about the 2012 recruiting class early in the afternoon.
The plan then was to breakdown the class, disseminate all the information, write it up for our readers and get home in time for a late supper.
But then that letter-of-intent for Josh Harvey-Clemons went AWOL. Apparently the young man’s grandfather and legal guardian did as well. And though we all watched the highly-touted outside linebacker from Valdosta tell a national television audience he intended to sign with Georgia, the Bulldogs’ couldn’t announce him as a signee and we haven’t been able to put a bow around the 2012 recruiting class.
And that’s where we are. It appears that Georgia’s coaches have headed home as well as all of UGA’s sports communication staff. So even if Harvey-Clemons decided to send over a signed letter-of-intent at this point I don’t think there will be anyone here to see it. (Note to Harvey-Clemons — If you’d like to email it to me as an attachment, please don’t hesitate to do so at ctowers@ajc.com. Thanks).
So what does it all mean? Not much in the grand scheme of things, in my humble opinion.
Without a doubt, Harvey-Clemons is a major prospect and could become a great college player. But as far as the 2012 class is concerned, of all the positions Georgia was pretty well set at, I’d say the position Harvey-Clemons plays is the most solid one. The Bulldogs signed more defensive end/outside linebackers (4) than any other one on Wednesday. It was for that reason I was frankly surprised when I heard Harvey-Clemons announce Georgia.
Michael Carvell, our capable recruiting correspondent, has a relationship with Harvey-Clemons and his family. So I’m going to leave it to him to get to the bottom of this issue. In the meantime, here are some things I do know about Georgia’s 2012 class:
1. It’s pretty good, but not great.
Rarely are you going to ink just 18 players and have the class characterized as exceptional. But don’t sell this group short. Georgia doesn’t lose a lot from 2011 and this one goes a long way toward addressing whatever voids existed.
“I feel like we were able to meet our leads,” said Rodney Garner, Georgia’s recruiting coordinator since 1998. “I think we covered everything across the board. Sometimes I think the public may look at it one way while we have some things we’re doing from a standpoint of roster management that we may be doing with our current team. We’re going to shift some guys around to fit our needs that we feel may better benefit our scheme. . . . We’re really excited about where we’re at.”
At last check, Georgia’s class was ranked No. 5 by ESPN, No. 6 by 247Sports, No. 12 by Scout, No. 19 by Rivals and No. 20 by Tom Lemming. Take it for what it’s worth.
2. Georgia needed more offensive linemen
I still don’t believe the Bulldogs have adequately addressed their depth issues on the offensive line. In a perfect world, you need a good 15 scholarship linemen to practice and compete at a level that’s going to give you plenty of guys ready to play. But that’s ideally. As Georgia proved last year, you can get by with fewer than that. And at least two of the three guys they got seem to be of the ilk that can help right away.
“Let me tell you something: Offensive line is a huge priority,” Richt said. “But the thing is, if you’re going to try to sign the best you’ve got to recruit the best. There are times when you hit it on the head and there are times when you don’t win the battle. We’re going against a lot of great programs but, I guarantee you, the guys that we’ve got are highly sought-after and guys we think can really help us.”
Theus (6-6, 292), a five-star-rated prospect, is expected to compete for playing time at left tackle. Beard (6-4, 300) is a junior college transfer who is already enrolled in school and figures to compete at both guard and tackle. Greg Pyke (6-6, 315) is a big guy out of Baltimore.
“First of all those guys are physically big men,” Richt said. “They are physical enough to compete right now. . . . Those guys I think have a tremendous shot to compete. John, in particular, is one heck of a player and he has a great chance to play for Georgia. He just has to stay healthy, learn what to do, nothing’s given but he’s definitely going to throw his hat in the ring. Guys like A.J. Green we’ve had in the past and Matthew Stafford, guys who are highly thought of at their positions. John is in that category to me.”
Richt also wanted to remind Georgia fans of redshirted linemen such as Zach DeBell and Xzavier Ward.
“People tend to forget about guys like that,” he said. “Ward has probably put on 40 pounds and he’s been getting healthy. He looks good, big, tall, kid who’s very athletic. . . . Before you know it he’ll be competing for us.”
3. Misses at wide receiver weren’t critical.
Georgia fans surely are bemoaning the choices of wide receivers Cordarrelle Patterson of Hutchinson (Kan.) CC (Tennessee) and JaQuay Williams of Sandy Creek(Auburn) to go elsewhere. But the reality is it is far from devastating. The Bulldogs are well-stocked at the position and they will be in a position to reload next year.
“Here’s the deal on that: We know we’ve got a pretty good bunch of guys already,” Richt said. “We’ve got some veterans making plays. Of course, TK [Tavarres King] had over 200 yards in our last game and we’ve got some other guys. [Rantavious] Wooten and Marlon Brown had great camps last year, then they got sidetracked by injuries and some freshmen came through and made a bunch of plays for us. So we know we’ve got some play-makers there and I think a lot of the recruits knew we had a lot of play-makers there.”
Richt went on to say they expect big things from the one receiver they landed, Blake Tibbs of M.L. King.
4. There’s some pretty good quality in this class:
Georgia landed two prospects that garnered 5-star ratings from at least one of the national recruiting services in Theus and running back Keith Marshall of Raleigh. They also landed the top-rated players from four states based on various rankings – Theus (Florida), Marshall (North Carolina), outside linebacker Jordan Jenkins (Georgia) and cornerback Sheldon Dawson (Tennessee). In addition several other players are expected to make an immediate impact, including fullback Quayvon Hicks, kicker Marshall Morgan of Fort Lauderdale and punter Collin Barber of Cartersville.
5. Georgia pulled major coup getting North Carolina’s top two running backs:
CBS national recruiting expert Tom Lemming lauded Keith Marshall and Todd Gurley for putting egos aside and both deciding to come to the same place. Marshall is considered the top running back prospect in the nation according to several recruiting services but Lemming isn’t sure whether Gurley isn’t better. And together he thinks they’re an unbeatable combo.
“To think you could get the top two running backs from anyone else’s state, that would be very difficult to do,” Richt said. “These guys have a very good friendship. To think I like about them both is they’re both very high character young men. They are extremely talented. They’re both already physical enough to play this game and they’re both highly motivated.
“There aren’t many running backs any more who come in thinking I’ve got to be the only guy. I don’t think anybody wants to be the only guy. Because if you’re going to carry the ball 25-30 times a game in our league, it’s not healthy for you. It’s not good for you. You want to be with guys that can share the load with you to keep you healthy and keep you fresh throughout any game in any given season. I think these guys are special backs and we’re excited about it.”
6. Of course, Marshall and Gurley will be joining Isaiah Crowell, Ken Malcome, Richard Samuel, Carlton Thomas and Brandon Harton in Georgia’s backfield. Richt does not think that’s too much depth.
“One year we had Thomas Brown, Danny Ware, Kregg Lumpkin and Knowshon Moreno at one time,” he said. “Lumpkin is in the NFL, Danny Ware is in the NFL, Thomas Brown was in the league, and, of course, Knowshon as well. We were loaded up pretty good but it didn’t seem to hurt those guys in their careers.”
Here’s Richt on a few other topics:
On fans . . .
“I want to mention is the Bulldog Nation. Our fanbase generates so much excitement. When you talk about our fanbase, our guys understand it’s a real thing. They even mention it after they commit to Georgia, they just felt overwhelmed by the amount of love they’re getting from people just wishing them well or talking to them at the grocery store our on social media or something of that nature. They’ll say, “I didn’t realize how much the Georgia fans love their team.’ That’s a big part of us being able to recruit so well.”
On 10 of 18 signees coming from out of state . . .
“The bottom line is we’re trying to find the very best players, period. We know we have one of the greatest states in the country to recruit football. . . . Our philosophy is, if you go out of state, they better be special. They better be a special player; they better be a special person. That’s how we feel about these guys. But by no means do we ever want to slight the state of Georgia.”
On slow start in recruiting . . .
“I think ‘the noise’ probably hurt us a little on the front end. But once we had the season that we had, we did something we hadn’t done since the early 1980s, winning 10 in a row, and returning a lot of players and all that. I think maybe some of the guys in a wait-and-see decided they were very comfortable with where Georgia is now and where Coach Richt and the staff are. I think that had a little something to do with it.”
On the day’s events . . .
“Quite franky, I’d like to have no buzz on signing day. I’d like it to be the most boring day. I’d like to get the max number we can handle, get them all committed and get all the faxes thjrough by 9 o’clock. Everything’s lovely. That’s how I’d like to have it. But fans like that last-second drama.”
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DC
February 1st, 2012
10:14 pm
Looks like UGA got Sanduskied by Clemons’ family.
Zumadawg
February 1st, 2012
10:15 pm
FINISH THE DRILL!!
When it gets down to the dogs and maybe one or two other shcools being considered by a recruit, why is it that we just don’t seem able to close it out?
beanster
February 1st, 2012
10:16 pm
I don’t think CMR is lying when he says that “most” highly coveted RBs don’t want to be the “only” guy at an SEC school. They all think they are the next Barry Sanders and that they risk injury if they’re asked to carry the ball 20 times a game. That seems reasonable to me.
phil
February 1st, 2012
10:17 pm
Fire Lobosolo!
jojo
February 1st, 2012
10:18 pm
oh he–, just wait and see what all these Dawgs can do. You might just be surprised. .
Lowcountry Bulldawg
February 1st, 2012
10:24 pm
Chip-
See if you understand this and can expand on it if so. TY!
If I just understood Randy Shannon correctly since UGA looks to leave 7 scholly’s on the table this year if 7 or more players graduate the program next January ‘13 they can count scholly’s backwards. Those graduating 7 players then will count to the “empty”12 scholly’s we did not use. This would then allow CMR to sign the 25 alloted players plus an additional 7 players in 2013.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
February 1st, 2012
10:25 pm
So we could thus sign 32 players in 2012? This is the Randy Shannon theory….
THE REAL PHIL
February 1st, 2012
10:37 pm
For all those who don’t think the coaches understand the running game I would propose that Gale Sayers carrying 40 times couldn’t have gained 100 yards against a good defense with the O-Line we had last year. Now since two of those 5 were in the Senior bowl, the reason why that line sucked so bad is up for debate, but it did. If you CAN’T run the ball you have to throw it. I would also submit that continued running up the middle against Michigan State when we COULDN’T do it was the reason we didn’t hang 50 points on them as well as the reason they were allowed to get back in the game. I would also submit while some of the QB’s mistakes all year were boneheaded, most were caused by poor O Line play.
And you can’t FORCE kids to come to your school. If they want to go somewhere else, that’s where they go, this isnt a draft where you get a turn to pick who you want. Some kids want to play for a school they have grown up loving, no matter anything else. Some kids want to play on a National Championship team and feel like AL gives them the best opportunity to do that. For instance the Tomlinson kid. He either didn’t know or didn’t care that the only reason he had a scholarship available today was that Saban had taken one from a kid who had been committed for 11 mos. He just wanted to play for Alabama because he see’s them win on TV. He may be a high character kid, but he didn’t care about the character of his head coach. Some kids want an engineering degree so they go to Tech. Some kids like the sun so they go to Miami. You can’t force anyone to come play at your school.
Actually CPJ had a great line about how he ranked his recruiting classes by how many games they win. Florida had the number one recruiting class in the country 2 years ago. Didn’t help much last year did it? If that’s how good their number one class can do, think about how good their number three class will be.
UGA got some spots they needed. There were lots from last years class that either red shirted or played little that will be just like getting new players. Everything will be ok. As long as some schools don’t engage in the same “roster management” concepts as Saban does for ethical reasons it will be difficult to recruit with AL. The only hope is that people will see how he treats other peoples children and not want anything to do with him when it comes time for them to deal with theirs.
On another note, can you believe that JUCO WR went to TENNESSEE??? REALLY? Why not OK ST?
Joe
February 1st, 2012
10:48 pm
Where did the Dalvin Tomlinson commit to?
Delbert D.
February 1st, 2012
11:21 pm
7 running backs plus the walk-on guy? Something has to give. Or go.
bitter dawgs fan
February 1st, 2012
11:35 pm
i WILL SAY THAT———-REAL QUALITY————IN THIS CLASS
————-shows from top to bottom——–except for the punter who takes out mail boxes with a
————————-baseball bat———–kids————–let clemons and freak pa go—-
———–this guy is just like scam newtons grand dad—————spot light junkies
—never made it as a baller———–so they have act as if they are being recruited———-please
————————go f@#$% yourself—————–grand dad
57Cat
February 1st, 2012
11:48 pm
I was really surprised to see theColquitt County PK Luna commit to Valdosta State. Great pick-up for the Blazers, but I figured Luna a sure D-1 kicker, with that leg.
Columbus
February 2nd, 2012
12:39 am
Chip, you are the best and hardest working at AJC. Bradley and Schultz should learn from you brother!
Columbus
February 2nd, 2012
12:50 am
kool-aid. Crowell was hurt with an ankle swollen like a SOFTBALL and you and the rest of the fans BOO HIM when he gavie his ALL but could not continue? You should have APPLAUDED him! An injurt like his takes a GOOD YEAR TO FULLY HEAL BUT HE KEPT PLAYING WITH EVERYTHIGN HE HAD! IT RIPPED HIS HEART OUT WHEN HE WAS BOOED! His ankle was SWOLLEN the size of a SOFTBALL!
Crowell is the BEST back on the team Marshall is fast but Crowell has VISION and can cut on a dime and take it to the house. He was a TRU freshman coming from a lower classification and playing in the SEC. Can you imagain what Crowell would have STILL domne had he not gotten his ankle injured EARLY in the season?! He kept playing on a bum ankle. He is a RUNNING back with a hurt ANKLE! You people BOO HIM? You should HONOR HIM! How you people treated himn should be criminal and it is actually worse. You ripped his heart out with your assumptions abotu him that were not true. he had a bad ankle most of the year but KEPT on playing as a RUNNING BACK! You people NEED to make ammends and give him a LOT OF LOVE to repair the damage you done to him UNFAIRLY and UNDESERVEDLY! If he does not get injured this year, he migth run for 1,600 years. He can get 100 in the first half alone and EASILY! If he can tote the rock and do so healthily and was a featured back and get most of the carries he might hit 2,000 yards! You people have not even seen what ALL he can do and with some experience in the SEC, man he is the best back in the conference all-around. he has speedm escapability, can cut on a dime and has VISION.
His ankle was the size of a softball and he tried and tried and you people booed him and ripped his heart out because he got hurt early, then again in the same spot and could not recover with an injury that takes a good year to fully heal. You OWE CROWELL a HUGE apology and a LOT of LOVE UGA fans. Yopu treated him based on your ignorance of the facts and so UNFAIRLY. Sad UGA fans. VERY SAD.
MORONS
Preston
February 2nd, 2012
1:26 am
The running back situation is going to be incredible because of the competition. I was overly concerned about the OL position until I read that there were a few guys redshirted and injured last year that will be back to contribute. UGA really doesn’t have any glaring weaknesses next year except an unproven kicking game. But who knows? Blair Walsh was far better in his first two seasons than his last two so we’ll see what happens with the new guys. And we all know that the defense will be nothing short of awesome!
A-Ville Ranger
February 2nd, 2012
1:29 am
This class doesn’t address needs, not completely, or even close. We lose much of the defense after this season and we’re going to be very thin on that side of the ball.
Preston
February 2nd, 2012
1:33 am
I smell a fish in the JHC scenario. Why the hell would he make the announcement and then fail to send in the fax? And his grandfather wasn’t happy about it or something? Hmmmmm……If he signs with another school, the NCAA will be all over it!
Preston
February 2nd, 2012
1:37 am
A-Ville, it looks pretty loaded on the defensive side of the ball to me. Where on the defense do we look threatened? I agree that there’s really no excuse for having that many leftover scholarships and so few offensive line needs but the defense doesn’t look bad at all.
Columbus
February 2nd, 2012
2:03 am
Now Granpa will have to hire someone to bail people out of jail for him…..he just cant let his grandson go without getting that Florida money he was counting on! Whether it was Miami, FSU or UF. Him trying to change the boys mind. its HIS life gramps. Not yours. You better sign the letter. Your church is watching. God led him to UGA now let him go….
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
2:27 am
February 1, 2012 at 9:41 am :
Mark Richt violates NCAA regulations in a Major Infraction :
“I’m sure glad [Josh Harvey-Clemons] – he became a Bulldog,” Richt told ESPNU during its live recruiting broadcast. “He’s a great kid and he’s so versatile. He can play inside linebacker, outside linebacker, he can rush the passer and, quite frankly, he’s quite a wide receiver, too.”
13-1 February 1st, 2012 11:00 am
“OLB Josh Harvey-Clemons out of Lowndes Valdosta 6′ 4″ OLB & WR ranked # 2 OLB in the nation moved us all the way from # 17 to # 13 by himself in Scout.com Rankings this morning. He has not sent in his FAX yet.”
________________________________________________________
At
9:41 am
yesterday Mark Richt violated NCAA regulations regarding speaking about a recruit before he signed with the team. There is no coach in the history of mankind who makes this type of mistake.
Yet, please not an hour and half later, I was all over this that we still did not have his FAX at
11:00 am
indeed still not so the next day on 2/2/12, not yet.
If a casual fan such as I can recognize that Josh Harvey-Clemons has not signed at 11:00 am, how is it possible that Mark Richt could make this very high-profile, error ?
Mark Richt has done some of this in recruiting just flaunting himself to the NCAA. Expect to see major repercussions on this one; as it is we who are meddling in the recruiting of the highest-rated player in this # 3 state over-all for sending such recruits on to the NFL.
I am not so sure, all these added up, that this will be swept under the rug as a Secondary Violation again. Taken as a whole, this has to stop Mark Richt, sir. All of us cringe when you make such glaring errors in the manner in which you recruit, sir.
A-Ville Ranger
February 2nd, 2012
2:51 am
Preston, we didn’t have the depth to hang with the better teams defensively in 2011. We lose most of our starters after this season. From the combined 2008/2009/2010 seasons we only have 17 defensive players still on roster. Of those 17, 4 may never play meaningful minutes. We will be very thin on defense by next year.
Yellow Maggot Killer
February 2nd, 2012
3:24 am
@ bitter dawgs fan — Glad to see some INTENSITY FROM OUR OTHERWISE TEPID FAN BASE.
@ Columbus — CROWELL is a head case ! ! ! Won’t even ride a BIKE. Let’s just call him Glass Man ’cause he breaks so easily. You probably want to honor draft – dodgers who fled to Canada as ” Veterans” . And you’re talking about HONOR him.
All we heard about was O-line OHHH SOO BIG ! ! ! Stone Mt. is big but doesn’t
move well. That line can’t BUST AN EGG ! ! ! Add to that Bobo’s each play takes 4 seconds to develop .
You likely wish RAY GUMP was still coach ! ! !
When will you people see that we have embraced MEDIOCRTY ! ! !
ALSO REMEMBER w/ Tech it’s not what people know , it’s what we haven’t heard . . .
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
3:59 am
Chris Sanders Defensive Back played vs Boise State recording a tackle after being burned repeatedly in the loss as a direct result there-of, then he played against USCe in that loss, then he assisted on a tackle, burned vs lowly Coastal Carolina. At this point into 2011 season, he never got on the field again all season long, all DNP. This is what we base our hope to replace not only Brandon Boykin at CB but also now too for the 1st several games, Sanders Commings stemming from his arrest charges ? I am sorry, but I do not see it yet. I presume you do not either ?
Providing us a URL Link where Malcolm Mitchell is listed as a recruited as a Cornerback when we all know he was recruited as a WR, does little to disprove the theory that you know anything about our Defensive Backs’ weakness as demonstrated in the last bowl game, vs Boise State, vs South Carolina and vs LSU. There were many other games as well, and yet, we really did not face the top-passing teams, did we ? We were exposed in the Secondary, and you run in here to share with me a URL Link by the AJ-C that Malcolm Mitchell is 1 of the highly-rated cornerbacks we recruited last year, you say did not play and are waiting in the wings. So, far, both have played; 1 not in Secondary one play; and the other wishes he had not see the plays he did play 2011 burned every single pass.
Corey Moore, who played Free Safety 2011, also did not redshirt and in fact played in all 12 games last season. He recorded exactly one tackle on a missed assignment against New Mexico State, and that is the sum total of his 2011 season besides a blocked punt on special teams vs Coastal Carolina.
Is there somebody else recruited as a Defensive Back in 2011 you were referring to, perhaps ?
Quintavious Harrow is listed at Strong Safety and was recruited solely so that Mark Richt could run his vacant tailback formation NCAA Recruiting Violation for Isaiah Crowell, whom Columbus is in such man-love for. If he hits the field, we are in deep trouble. They would throw the football at him as soon as he trots on the field, as they did against every other defensive back recruited here last year, all of whom played and none of whom were redshirted, as you reported.
Damian Swann, back-up cornerback ahead on the Depth Chart of Jordan Love who doesn’t know his middle name or birthday and now has left the program after that arrest on campus including shooting off fireworks 2 days after July 4. As for Damian Swann himself, he recorded 2 solo and 1 assisted tackle for minus 3 yards against New Mexico State cupcake whom he Started against and no other stats all season playing in 11 games. This is probably your cornerback replacing Brandon Boykin. Scary ? Who replaces CB Sanders Commings in the 1st several games including Mizzou ? It’s this guy Damian Swann. I am sorry this team has issues at defensive back.
Jordan LAWRENCE Love, such a hard middle name to remember LAWRENCE born December 31, 1990, such a hard date to remember too, played cornerback against Coastal Carolina making 5 tackles and now has returned to his mama in Virginia.
Nick Marshall Cornerback, also was not redshirted per your post to the contrary and recorded 5 tackles in 13 games played 2011. I presume he will play back-up cornerback to Branden Smith, who hasn’t been overly impressive himself in defending the pass, now has he ? Good on offense, but our secondary was burned all season long, even against all those 10 in a row, cupcakes. Remember ? Any of this coming back to you ?
Devin Bowman, his brother Michael is a Junior WR this up-coming season for NC Alabama, having played in 4 games his freshman year and made all of 1 catch since, combined. Devin Bowman is the only player redshirted 2011 who was recruited as a defensive back. He played on the taxi squad at cornerback, and was lightly regarded.
Blake Sailors a special teams’ specialist is one of many walk-ons which kept us from signing today some more players to assist at Defensive Back and OL. He hasn’t played much cornerback, so we don’t know how he would do at such a position against the likes of Alabama in The SEC Championship Game, now either, do we ? Or for that matter vs the fine QB Steve Spurrier settled in on at USCe, or the vols’ fine QB either, do we ? Vandie can pass the ball. Mizzou has a mostly running QB. We really don’t play anyone in the 12 regular seasons’ games however, it is clear that when we do play against passing quarterbacks, our Secondary is SUSPECT at best.
How important was signing
SHELDON DAWSON the day before signing date commitment the # 11 cornerback in the nation 2012 and a 4-Star recruit, when 6 other SEC teams among many others offered Sheldon a scholarship, when we signed
NO OTHER DEFENSIVE BACK – just Sheldon Dawson
?
According to you, only, not important and he will not play. I don’t think so. He plays against Buffalo bills in game 1, and may even be your starting cornerback.
We have Secondary problems and long-since proven OL problems, especially after losing 4 senior starters on the OL from last season including 3 of whom end up in the NFL, but of course, Columbus tells you that is the fault of puny Aaron Murray that 3 of his OL end up in the NFL while himself, for his part, Aaron Murray has 1 yard a carry for 7 carries every game, 21 fumbles in 27 games, 22 interceptions in 27 games and 56 sacks in 27 games, recording 41 percent of his starts as a LOSS 11 of 27 games LOST. Yeah, Columbus, that sounds like the OL’s fault. Not.
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
4:10 am
A-Ville Ranger,
Correct, sir.
_________________
Yellow Maggot Killer,
Does it take 4 seconds for one of Mike Bobo’s plays to develop ?
Or, is it that our QB holds the football too long, with poor footwork, inability to go through his progressions and knows he throws the football not sliding into open lanes from a position which is often deflected at the line of scrimmage, and otherwise behind the receivers or over-thrown ?
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
4:34 am
Lowcountry Bulldawg February 1st, 2012 11:17 am
“do realize we signed 5 DB last year and that does not count Harrow. DB was not a priority this year.”
Lowcountry Bulldawg February 1st, 2012 12:54 pm
“Dawson – a 3 star player flipping from Vandy to UGA hardly would seal the deal in a Top 10 class. I think it was already a Top 10 class, but that comment was pretty funny.”
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
4:36 am
Lowcountry Bulldawg February 1st, 2012 2:20 pm
“Last years signings…
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/02/02/2011-university-of-georgia-commitments/
You will see the high number of DB’s.”
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
4:44 am
On the other hand, Old Dog is GREAT…
Old Dog February 1st, 2012 5:54 pm
““13-1 is under-performing ?”
10-4 is underperforming, especially when you nearly let Vandy beat you, and you gave SC and MSU victories (one in a bowl).”
____________[Can't argue that 1 either Old Dog, sir.]
Old Dog February 1st, 2012 5:56 pm
““assuming Aaron Murray’s Heebie-Jeebie Yips were a Sophomore Slump”
What was his first year, the Freshman slump? What about the Junior slump?”
____________________________[Good stuff Old Dog, sir.]
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
5:29 am
Jeff Schultz,
Jay-Walking ?
Georgia tek is guilty of Jay-Walking ?
Georgia Institute of Technology
NCAA PROBATION Football, Men’s Basketball thru 13 July 2015
in-fact,
Back-to-Back Repeat Offenders NCAA PROBATION
Georgia tek.
Of course, if it was UGA instead which it isn’t, the AJ-C would have made statements DAILY about this, however, this is the 1st article on the AJ-C this morning about Georgia tek back-to-back repeat offenders NCAA PROBATION, without of course, mentioning any of this.
Why Coddle Georgia tek AJ-C ? Are not 9 times as many readers, UGA fans than Georgia tek ?
More recruiting violations for Georgia tek today, and since they spend their days on our blog since no one posts to their blogs ever, I feel compelled to point out this AJ-C article I am certain Georgia tek feels is unfair bad press.
WELL, QUIT CHEATING
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
5:30 am
And, telling lies about it.
ole yeller
February 2nd, 2012
6:01 am
I love UGA football and the Georgia High School that produce the talent. I understand that our Georgia young men want to play at the next level. I understand when UGA is loaded at one position that a young man from GHS choses to go out of state, to me that’s not a bad thing. If he stays in state he may be a while before he plays. UGA also recrutis out of state, so, our local talent knows thay are competing agains the best in the USA. I give all our Georgia young men lots of love wherever they play and will pul for their success. Go Dawgs……
RedandBlackDAWG
February 2nd, 2012
6:09 am
LowCountry,
Doesn’t the new recruiting rules implemented by the SEC prevent a school from back signing anymore than 3? I think it does which means a school at most, can have 28 recruits for a single year. I think that this was done in order to prevent schools from signing a mega class of 30+ kids for a year.
If not, what would prevent a coach from signing as many as he could to get to a total of 85 on scholarship one year, and knowing his own roster, know he could get 25 next year, because he would lose that many through graduation, attrition, or dismissals from the team, if you didn’t turn out to be quite the athlete they thought you were when they recruited and signed you, you scholarship is not renewed. I think the number of Gray Shirts is restricted also, to further prevent purging your numbers in order to keep recruiting over the numbers, but under the max of 85. Miami is a perfect example of being able to sign away, until you have a 85 recruit limit reached. Other conferences need to adopt this rule but they will not.
The big 10 I understand is implementing a policy next year, (2013), that will require their member schools, upon signing a recruit, to sign him to a 3-4 year contract, I believe. Imagine the SEC implementing the same type policy. You would see a bunch of creative recruiting and manipulation of the numbers by some of the SEC schools for sure. NCAA wise, it would greatly level the playing field which is why the SEC would newer adopt it, if they had a choice. It would have to be NCAA implemented and I doubt you will ever see that as well. The NCAA is never going to implement anything that might hurt the cash flow, as they know certain conferences and teams are going to stretch the rules as much as possible, but they will keep on winning and thus the bucks will keep coming. While I am dreaming, I sure would like to see them insure that the schools have an open disclosure policy, that covered recruiting as well as the great one, dismissed for violating team rules. It seems like only UGA and Kentucky even make an attempt at that down here.
ole yeller
February 2nd, 2012
6:21 am
Everone should look at the roster for “O” linemen. With the (3) three new recrutis Theus, Beard, Pyke the dawgs have around (15) fifteen “O”linemen. The one’s in camp now have at least one year under Coach friend. The “O”line will be fine and the “O” will be fine. I expect a solid season from the Dawgs.
atltiger15
February 2nd, 2012
6:25 am
LSU had 6 early enrollees, and had to turn down Patrick Miller, but hten Gunner Kiehl flipped and Miller had already enrolled at AU. Not sure what the definite number is…
Word I’m hearing from a highly regarded coach in the Valdosta region, JHC gave Muschamp his word on last visit, grandpops was ok with that, but JHC decides to go to UGA without notifying Muschamp. Pops wants him to be a man and stand up to his word..Thats all…
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
6:46 am
That’s all ?
What it means is we lose Josh Harvey-Clemons, and against his own free will of where he wants to play. I don’t see that as “that’s all.”
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6:56 am
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WalterEgo
February 2nd, 2012
6:58 am
Big Wally,
That “idiot in the White House” was the Harvard law review president whereas my SAT was higher than “W”s.
Look. You may not like the president, but PLEASE learn to not like him for a legitimate reason. He’s smart.
He’s a citizen.
He’s a nice, family man.
He’s a Christian.
He’s a capitalist (He want’s LESS progressive tax rates than Reagan wanted).
He is not the anti-Christ (LOL).
I hate responding in sports blogs to political idiots who at best are closet bigots, but again, if you are bound and determined to hate the guy, at least learn to hate the guy for something legitimate.
TampaGator
February 2nd, 2012
7:04 am
Columbus…..
So God lives in Athens, Georgia….and the devil lives in Gainesville, Miami, and Tallahassee, Florida……and all the Florida schools and coaches are trying to pay the grandpa money to get Josh to come to their schools. And Obama is really a radical muslim trying to destroy America and all teachers want our kids to become communists.
AltamahaDawg
February 2nd, 2012
7:08 am
Here’s another good look at the class:
http://www.dawgsports.com/2012/2/1/2763938/Georgia-Bulldog-recruiting-signing-day-review
TampaGator
February 2nd, 2012
7:10 am
……..oh…….I forgot…..I saw God last night during our nightly conversation……and HE/SHE/IT was wearing a Boise State jersey….and Jesus was wearing a TCU jersey…..and Mother Mary was wearing a Denver jersey with #15 on the back…..and the devil tried to get into my vision…..but was wearing a Penn State jersey…..and I told him to go to hell.
MS. Bully
February 2nd, 2012
7:25 am
Miss State signed more defensive lineman (defensive ends) than UGA. You better hope we stay off your schedule the next 4 years.
Nauti-Dawg
February 2nd, 2012
7:38 am
Grandpa Clemons – I’ll work for you for free, so Josh can go to Athens and won’t have to drive up from Gainesville to sign bonds + give you gas money for games. (Does that violate any NCAA rules?)
PS. (unrelated)
Do you know why Spurrier wears that visor all the time?
- To cover the circumcision scar.
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
7:38 am
We are 17-6 vs Missy State including our win over you this 2011 season by 2 and half times your score 24-10 to make your record, Wow now, 7-6 on the season.
So, you run in here and say you signed one more DE than we did for a 3/4 Defense, so we better hope we don’t play you.
I hope we do play you. Can you be our permanent West partner, if Auburn moves to The SEC East after this coming season ?
Fan of the Game
February 2nd, 2012
7:47 am
Is grandpa using his grandson to get benefits? Makes you wonder if he wants the highest bidder to come forward. Call dfacs, this is slavery at its best.
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
7:53 am
I can assure you, his parents, would not have held him hostage from signing with the school of his choice. Unfortunately, they are both rolling over in their graves, while still another day passes with no signature from a 51-year old grandfather who has gone AWOL, while Josh Harvey-Clemons signed the paperwork over 24 hours ago, now.
WDE
February 2nd, 2012
8:05 am
@MS. Bully thanks for the laugh this morning, I spilled my coffee…hope we don’t play you..that is rich!
UGAFAN
February 2nd, 2012
8:09 am
I attended signing day yesterday and it was clear by the questions CMR took from the crowd that everyone is concerned about UGA’s offensive line. His response to questions about OL was lame. The bottomline is UGA, whatever reason, can’t sign 4 and 5 star offensive lineman on a consistant basis and for Richt to say that Theus can come in right away and help is a testament to the problem. Wonder how often you see 5 star freshmen starting on the O line at Bama. They get red-shirted. And I guarantee we’ll continue to see a lot of moving lineman around from defense to offense, etc to fill needs. Something has to change.
13-1
February 2nd, 2012
8:14 am
Mark Richt has done that on his OL starting 2001, and it has never ended, not one year.
WDE
February 2nd, 2012
8:20 am
@UGAFAN with respect I disagree any number of 5 stars start at freshmen, its when you have to start 3 and 4 stars as freshmen that you run into a lot of trouble..truth is that in today’s SEC any first year starter is behind the 8 ball, even if he has been in the system 2-3 years. J.T will have to win a position and if he can well then it was time for him to start…he won’t start because of the number of stars he has.
The Tide is rolling and nothing can stop it
February 2nd, 2012
8:22 am
Congratulations Dawgs! Any mid-tier program would be proud of this class. Way to go!
Matt
February 2nd, 2012
8:24 am
Ya’ll are assuming that this staff will coach the kids up and get the most out of them. You are assuming that the line will be able to block. You are assuming that our running game will be better than it was last year. You are assuming that Murray won’t crap the bed against the good teams that we play. You are assuming that special teams won’t continue to plague us (as it has for years). That’s alot of assuming.