John Kasay steps back into retirement as UGA reduces strength staff
ATHENS — John Kasay has slipped back into retirement.
Kasay, 68, came out of retirement a year ago to assist new strength and conditioning coach Joe Tereshinski Jr., with a restructuring of that program. A former player and assistant coach under Vince Dooley, Kasay had served UGA as director of strength and conditioning for nearly three decades.
“We asked John to come out of retirement on a part-time basis last January and help us through a transition period in our strength and conditioning program,” Georgia spokesman Claude Felton said. “He graciously accepted and has provided everything we hoped for in supporting Joe Tereshinski as we moved in this new direction. That transition period has put us well down the road in our strength program and John has stepped back into retirement with our sincerest thanks. He has many talents with his background and it’s not out of the question he could be asked to assist us with other projects in the future.”
Kasay’s move was a proactive one. A new NCAA rule goes into effect in August that will limit to five the number of coaches that a team may employ on its strength staff. In addition to Tereshinski, Georgia already has Rex Bradberry, Thomas Brown, Tony Gilbert and Keith Gray working full time in that capacity. UGA is not expected to name a temporary replacement, Felton said.
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WDE
January 18th, 2012
10:28 am
DGD!
BG
January 18th, 2012
10:32 am
GATA Kasay!
Newman
January 18th, 2012
10:35 am
Kasay came down to play football in 1963 and hasn’t left. Thank you Coach Kasay.
Atticus
January 18th, 2012
10:39 am
When is UGA going to wake up and move into this century with respect to S&C? Alabama and LSU are so much better conditioned its scary. It’s the worst kept secret in the industry. Multiple games including MSU the opponents said our team was gassed in the 2nd half.
Atticus
January 18th, 2012
10:40 am
And I love Joe T but explain to me why he is the MOST qualified person in the country for this job.
Spaceman Spiff
January 18th, 2012
10:42 am
@ Atticus
Really, do you have to troll? Go back to your tech blog sites with the rest of the cry babies.
Inlet Dawg
January 18th, 2012
10:42 am
Thanks for bringing our team strength back.
fan
January 18th, 2012
10:42 am
Atticus its called depth and UGA didn’t have much this year. LSU and Bama were two deep at every position.
Atticus
January 18th, 2012
10:45 am
I am a UGA grad Spiff with the idiot name. Explain to me why UGA is the best? Fan I agree with you but just like hoops, just like Bobo and things in the past, we accept less than the best.
Atticus
January 18th, 2012
10:47 am
If you think our conditioning is even close to Bama’s you are fooling yourself.
Carew Rowell
January 18th, 2012
10:49 am
What will help our conditioning more than anything else, is a offense that can run the ball, sustain a drive and stop turning the ball over so much in big games. That would keep the defense off the field and fresh for the 4th quarter.
But, what do I know; I’m a mere fan.
Dap01
January 18th, 2012
10:51 am
Why don’t UGA simply ignore the NCAA rule? Alabama does.
JB
January 18th, 2012
10:55 am
I am encouraged on offense for once ( Bobo here to stay, we’ve must just deal with that) We have 4 OL that redshirted last year. We have 4 maybe 5 coming in this year on the OL, 2 of whom look really good.
We have 3-4 coming back from last years roster. For a change, we have some numbers…and maybe better talent there. We have 2 new RB’s coming in to push what’s coming back. And then there is Murray, who has some downside, but a ton of upside. WR’s are very good. Told Rome at TE will make us forget Orson pretty quick….Throw this with the 9 on D coming back and another year with Coach T, for what it’s worth, it light years ahead of where we were, looks like a good year coming.
Danno
January 18th, 2012
10:58 am
Missouri 42, UGA 10
WDE
January 18th, 2012
11:01 am
@Danno what are you smoking?
Destin Dawg
January 18th, 2012
11:05 am
Nutrition is way up.. great buffet.. 2012 lots of Junkyard Dawgs coming back to play for Grantham… now lets get the offense up to speed !! need depth 2 deep.. and No Seniority system !!
Nom Nom Nom Chucks Taylor, or Norris if he is avaliable
January 18th, 2012
11:20 am
“If you think our conditioning is even close to Bama’s you are fooling yourself.”
AMEN
Nom Nom Nom Chucks Taylor, or Norris if he is avaliable
January 18th, 2012
11:22 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/375714-alabama-footballs-ace-in-the-hole-strength-coach-scott-cochran
This is a real strength and conditioning coach. Not just some old arsewipe who thinks you should run suicides until you puke.
Yes, I am talking to you JT.
Jim
January 18th, 2012
11:26 am
When we get offensive players coming back to play their senior year under Bobo, then we will have turned the corner and there will be light at the end of the tunnel. We need a QB rotation that will not miss a beat if there needs to be a change in the first quarter. We have wasted 3-4 star QBs for far too many years. I hope it doesn’t spill over to the runniung back tallent we have coming in. This bull about us being good in two years is getting old. It’s time the sky quit falling on the poor old dawgs. Sure hope we can save some money on oxygen next year!
Daytona Dawg
January 18th, 2012
11:27 am
Atticus – I totally agree with you. I thought it was a very strange move last year, but never commented on it. I went to UGA (90-94) and majored in Exercise Science and then went to grad school in Memphis and had an internship with the S&C staff there. It was absolutely no secret that UGA was waaaaaay behind in S&C. No secret at all. I remember talking to Mack Strong after he had been with the Seahawks for only a few months (summer of 94) and he talked about how far behind UGA was.
I even took one of Coach Mrvos weight training classes (anyone remember those?) while at UGA and it was terrible.
Georgia has plenty of money to get someone top notch….I’m just not sure if they’ll know them when they see them. I don’t mean to be so negative, it’s just that this is the side of football that I really know. Everyone else on the coaching staff is getting better & better (at least on the Defensive side), so I’m hoping Richt and McGarity do it right. Go Dawgs!!!!
LawDawg
January 18th, 2012
11:34 am
I had no idea that Tony Gilbert and Thomas Brown were kicking around on the UGA staff. That is awesome.
Dr. Phil
January 18th, 2012
11:43 am
I don’t know about overall team conditioning, but Crowell would perform better if he gave up his smoking habit.
Buckhead Bulldog
January 18th, 2012
11:45 am
“A new NCAA rule goes into effect in August that will limit to five the number of coaches that a team may employ on its strength staff” – can’t they find better things to do? Just another example of how the NCAA oversight operates in a very bush league manner.
LawDawg
January 18th, 2012
11:47 am
Jim – what the heck are you talking about? Andrew Luck and Matt Leinart are unusual. If you grade out as a first-round talent as a junior and leave, that is just expected. Do you really think Stafford should have come back? Knowshon? Orson?
They would have been crazy to. This says nothing about the state of the Georgia program. It happens everywhere, UGA just happens to have more first-round draft picks than most teams. In fact, it probably says good things that we can create first-round talent in three years.
Danno
January 18th, 2012
11:49 am
I am not smoking anything. I am just jealous of the fact that my team can’t beat UGA…
Atticus
January 18th, 2012
11:52 am
I just like to say stupid things. It doesn’t matter that the D is undermanned. How dare they not be able to play a whole game with very few, if any, rotations!
ugak9s
January 18th, 2012
11:59 am
I also wondered, why is JT coming back when he didn’t do a good job before, and MR brought his own man to take over. What ahppened?
Never the less, I think we need a special teams coach just as bad…………..
Spaceman Spiff
January 18th, 2012
12:10 pm
@ ugak9s
While the Dogs need a special teams makeover, they can’t hire one because of the NCAA-placed coaching limit…
Hey wde...
January 18th, 2012
12:26 pm
…if you watched what Mizzou did to UNC then you would understand why they will blitz UGA next year – just saying that until UGA learns to play tough on both sides of the ball then we will not have much success against teams that can move the ball at will – aka AR, LSU, Boise State, AL, Mizzou, SC, etc – all teams with winning records whom we have proven to be unable to beat for whatever reason, most likely being that we are outcoached, outschemed, and out-conditioned…
Kerryb
January 18th, 2012
12:41 pm
We will be two deep next year after this recruiting class so there will be no more gassed defense next year.
Kerryb
January 18th, 2012
12:43 pm
Hey wde…
January 18th, 2012
12:26 pm
…if you watched what Mizzou did to UNC then you would understand why they will blitz UGA next year – just saying that until UGA learns to play tough on both sides of the ball then we will not have much success against teams that can move the ball at will – aka AR, LSU, Boise State, AL, Mizzou, SC, etc – all teams with winning records whom we have proven to be unable to beat for whatever reason, most likely being that we are outcoached, outschemed, and out-conditioned…
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As Bugs Bunny use to say, “what a moroon”
Kerryb
January 18th, 2012
12:44 pm
Mizzou blitzed UNC because they were a weak ACC team last year. They will be dealing with a totally different animal next September. With UGA’s defense they will not be able to hang in this game.
wpww
January 18th, 2012
12:50 pm
Our video coach became our strenght coach!!! nuf said!
7576DAWG
January 18th, 2012
1:10 pm
John Kasay sure does have my thank’s and admiration , at 67 or 68 year’s old that was a huge sacrifice .
beanster
January 18th, 2012
1:15 pm
Partly just playing devil’s advocate here, but I am not sure “lack of depth” should be to blame for our 2nd half problems. I think it’s safe to assume it is the defense Dawg fans are referring to when we see our guys “gassed” late in the game, so below are D starters and back ups. All saw enough of the field last year to be included in the “depth” of our D.
Starters Backups
DEs: Abry Jones, Tyson Garrison Smith, Derrick Lott
NG: J Jenkins Geathers
OLBs: C Washington. J Jones C Vasser, R Faloughi, Ray Drew
ILBs: Ogletree, Herera, Robinson, Gilliard, R Wilson
DBs: Boykin, B Smith, D Swann, Q Harrow, C Sanders, C Moore
Ss: Rambo, Commings, S Williams, C Norman and B Sailors (mainly ST but solid backups)
Granted there were injuries that kept all 26 from being able to go every game. But as stout as the starting 11 were backed up by a whole bunch of hungry-to-play, young talent I have a hard time believing it was LSU’s 3rd string that did us in or MSU’s for that matter (did MSU’s starters ever even come out of the game?). We are a solid two-deep and with this year’s class we should be three-deep in some positions in 2012. Boise State didn’t whip us (esp. in the trenches) because they had more bodies than we did. USCe didn’t outscore us because they were fresher. Lack of depth didn’t make AM throw picks in the 2nd half of the SECCG or the bowl game.
The link to the article posted by Nom Nom… at 11:22 a.m. about Bama’s guy, Scott Cochran, the guy who predicted our funeral in the ’08 blackout, is downright scary. This what the competition is doing….until UGA adopts a similar philosophy we’ll continue to scratch at their heels.
Bama Fans LOVE Krystal
January 18th, 2012
1:36 pm
I heard Dre’ was in Krystal looking for someone passed out
abe lincoln
January 18th, 2012
1:43 pm
I have been told that Coach Richt is aware of the short comings of the strength and conditioning program. Also think that the A.D. will help to fix the problem.
The Dogfather
January 18th, 2012
1:43 pm
I hear ya wpww. Not to subtract any positives from coach T – but coach Kasay was his coach. Many Great ideas that become practice were hatched back in that “Family Dorm” in McWorter.Many others took credit for them. I say we raise the ol’glass And give many THANKS to the ol’ tough arse himself. Thanks Motherkasay
Gambs
January 18th, 2012
1:45 pm
UGA’s S&C program has been sub-par in the SEC for years now. It started going downhill under Van Halanger, and it hasn’t recovered. UGA didn’t beat a ranked team last year, and there’s a darn good reason for it. It’s not that they weren’t talented enough to do it. They just weren’t conditioned enough to do it.
slydog
January 18th, 2012
1:48 pm
It’s time for the strength program to be revamped, cut all these ties to your buddies, and do what’s best for the program. Now, maybe in Year 2 of Joe T’s program, the team will show improvement in conditioning overall. But he is on the verge of retirement himself, and there are no comparable personnel on staff currently with his experience. By using the “eye” test, Alabama and LSU’s players are just bigger, stronger, and in better cardiovascular condition. It’s not magic, just an effective program. If Georgia’s goal is to win the SEC Championship only and nothing else, then Georgia should at the very least copy what the winners are doing.
tide roll
January 18th, 2012
1:57 pm
Following UGA football has a nightmarish quality about it doesn’t it? Richt and Bobo, like two Freddy Kruegers on the loose, are guaranteed to strike again. AND Uga fans don’t know when or where, only that it’s guaranteed to happen. Will it be the field goal call vs. Central Fla., or the field goal vs. Mich St.? Will it be a first half of the SEC championship followed by the 2nd (35 – 0, LSU)? Will it be the evaluation of Cam Newton as a tight end, or losing MIKE DAVIS to SEC EAST rival South Caroilina? When will they strike again? Is there anyway to prepare for it? Is there a way to avoid the dang shock to the system those two bring? It’s all just too much to take. .
Hey, tide roll
January 18th, 2012
2:09 pm
Did you note that Bama won a NC starting more white offensive linemen than Georgia?
Talking about Cam Newton, you were the one that made the ludicrous charge that Saban did not go hard after Cam because he assumed he was a lock to UGA in 2010. Did that cause you some trouble with the Bama fan base, insinuating that Nicky was either lazy or stupid in Cam’s recruitment?
Still waiting for you to admit that maybe AJ McCarron is better than Philip Sims.
DawginLex
January 18th, 2012
2:12 pm
tide roll won’t answer my question regarding the skin color of a particular Alabama offensive lineman who was rated as the top OL in the country and attended a private Christian school.
DawginLex
January 18th, 2012
2:13 pm
Who much to everyone’s surprise, decided to return for his senior year at Bama and delay a locked up 1st round draft selection.
RHall
January 18th, 2012
2:14 pm
What qualifications do each of these individuals have to be on the strength staff? Please list each!!! Was not Joe T a video guy?? C’mom Man!!
Hairy Dawg
January 18th, 2012
2:15 pm
Maybe we can steal John Kasay’s kid away from the Saints and let him be our kicker next season? I know he’s 42, but surely we could find a way to get him some eligibility.
DawginLex
January 18th, 2012
2:15 pm
slydog
Georgia already copied Florida and added a full time nutritionist
Year 2 was always my prediction for the results to truly begin showing
Troof
January 18th, 2012
2:18 pm
At Bama, Coach Cochran is the Monster Maker. Bama’s S&C program makes boys into men. That’s why the SEC fears Bama.
old dog
January 18th, 2012
2:36 pm
Can’t speak for now, but I know for a fact the players feared Coach Kasey back in the ’70’s.
cmdawg99
January 18th, 2012
2:40 pm
To make room for a new OC. Go Dawgs!!
Buckhead Bulldog
January 18th, 2012
2:40 pm
Does anyone know much money JT receives as the head of S&C? 60k or so?
WDE
January 18th, 2012
3:05 pm
@Hey wde…yeah I watch Mizz play a terrible ACC team, and then watched most of their team leave. They are about to get welcomed to the SEC anyone picking them to beat UGA by 30 is impaired.
BobDawg
January 18th, 2012
3:12 pm
TIDE ROLL makes sure the speed limit stays 55 on their side of I-20 so “Boss Hog” can fill his ticket quota!!!! DawginLex, he hasn’t answered any of your questions because he is really a “silent UgA” fan and won’t admit it… How else does he know so much about Athens and the goings on…. He Loves UGA!!!!!!
slydog
January 18th, 2012
3:16 pm
“Still waiting for you to admit that maybe AJ McCarron is better than Philip Sims…”
To counter, AJ McCarron may be a “safer” player over Phillip Sims. It’s the ‘ole fundamentals vs playmaker argument. Saban has never, ever, played or started a mobile QB or, at least, a guy who moves around well over a game manager. And no, it’s not a color thing. Ryan Perrilloux wasn’t a “mobile” QB nor was Jamarcus Russell (uughh!!)
slydog
January 18th, 2012
3:17 pm
@BobDawg
It’s painfully obvious he is a UGA fan and a CMR detractor.
slydog
January 18th, 2012
3:25 pm
And speaking of game managers, I think this is what Richt/BoBo is trying to turn Murray into. But he’s better with a moving pocket and staying in motion versus standing “tall” in the pocket (lol) and “shooting” down the barrell. I don’t believe Hutson Mason is necessarily a “better” player than Murray, but he suits what Richt/BoBo wants better. Murray just has the “stars” to justify his extra opportunities. If Richt/BoBo spent the summer with Sean Payton and the Saints, they would have a better idea of how to use their current personnel. I’m no coach, but just sayin…..
Go Dawgs!
January 18th, 2012
3:29 pm
When it comes to the S&C program, all it takes is a simple eye test.
When you look at Bama’s players from top to bottome they simply look bigger, play faster and appear to be stronger. Granted depth has a little to do with it, but look at top players from Bama and LSU, those guys don’t take a whole lot of plays off, so the depth arguement is a bit overated.
Our guys look and play strong for about 2 1/2 Quarters. Depth or not THAT’s conditioning.
The thing that’s disheartening is Joe T’s sole job was “get stronger in the 4th qtr” I have to say as the season wore on it seemed to me that we were actually weaker this year than last.
Joe T is an old school trainer and while his methods may have worked in the past they are outdated. Dave VanHalenger was cutting edge in the late 80s and 90s and I suspect he rested on his laurels too long, which was why Joe T was a bit of a head scratcher as his methods are older than DV’s.
While I think addressing nutrition was a big help, there are so many new cutting edge techniques to build strength and indurance that fly in the face of conventional wisdom but ARE MUCH MORE effective. I’m 43 and train, and would consider myself more of an old school weight trainer, and I’ve been humbled and had to eat crow after trying some new techniques that one of the trainers at my gym put me on.
My point is from a scientific point we know today much more about the human body than we ever have and a lot of things that were thought of as taboo in strength training yesterday are actually cutting edge today. We need a S&C leader that will embrace that, do their homework, find out what others are doing, study and keep out program fresh. Anyone with one good eye can see Bama’s S&C staff run circles around ours. It’s sad to admit as an avid Dawg fan, but it’s the truth.
ole dawg
January 18th, 2012
3:56 pm
Look people, not saying that we couldn’t improve our S&C but it is not like Joe T is stuck in a cave over in Athens and has no idea what other SEC schools are doing. I would say that EVERY SEC school knows exactly what type of workouts are being done at every other SEC school. You can’t protect that info. in today’s world. Also, I am certain that Joe T has access to any type of consultant that he wants to sit down with. His job is to simply make certain that the guys are doing the work. He doesn’t have to invent a workout program all by himself. You would be ignorant to think that.
Go Dawgs!
January 18th, 2012
4:05 pm
Ole Dawg, I’m not saying Joe T’s necessarily stuck in cave, but the fact of the matter is your eyes don’t lie and when you look at our players and compare them to the Bama’s, LSU’s and Texas’ of the world there is a stark contrast. Some of it may be in the players we’re recruiting, but much of it has to do with the S&C. You simply can not deny that. I’m not saying Joe T is a BAD S&C coordinator, I’m just not convinced he’s at that elite level we need to get where we want to go. There’s a lot more to S&C than just making sure guys show up at the gym and yelling “C’mon!! one more rep!!!” I see a lot of guys who show up at the gym everyday and put their 1-2 hours in and have little to show for it.
Dawg_Mike
January 18th, 2012
4:07 pm
@GoDawgs! : PRECISELY.
slydog
January 18th, 2012
4:17 pm
@GoDawgs!
You hit the nail on the head. Before this year, when people were complaining about our players being gassed, I saw it as more of an off the field / on the field discipline issue. Too many arrests and too many dumb penalties and turnovers equals no concentration equals bad coaching. This year, the team definitely started out strong and gassed out at the end of every single game except Auburn. But even in that game, Auburn clearly was worn out before the kickoff. I hate to speculate, but Georgia would have beaten Boise, LSU, and Mich St. if they were prepared to “win in the 4th quarter.” It shouldn’t take two years. It should have taken three months. However, taking the S & C program as a whole, it may take take two years to catch up to Bama and LSU.
Go Dawgs!
January 18th, 2012
4:22 pm
Another point to add about Bama’s S&C, ESPN did a story on their program and I can promise you with some of the innovative stuff they were doing, (which I’m sure what they showed was just the tip of the iceberg) we’re not doing those things at UGA.
Like it or not (my weight training brethern back me up on this) when it comes to weight training, most of us who’ve done it for any period of time have done our homework and read countless articles, taken advice from trainers, friends, or guys in the gym who looked like what we want to. What happens next is after a period several years you tend to weed down to exercises and routines that you are COMFORTABLE with. You may change up the routine and exercises that you are comfortable with here or there for muscle confusion but at the end of the day YOUR personal philosophy once established is very hard to break and your willingness to change is even harder. It’s because of EGO. All weight trainers have one and if you are pleased with your results you stick with YOUR philosophy. You only seek out change, advice or a better way of doing it when you are either new to the sport, or hit a plateau. PERIOD. As long as Joe T thinks what he’s doing is working he’s not going to change, regardless of what he sees anyone else doing. Just like any other trainer. What seperates the elite trainers from the mediocre is they are ALWAYS looking for better way to do things and never rest on their laurels that what they are doing today is going to be the best way tomorrow. They strive to be innovators.
big dog
January 18th, 2012
4:26 pm
doggs rock
truedawg
January 18th, 2012
4:27 pm
ok, AM is good, but not great..time will tell. I’m pleased for the first time in 4 year we went forward instead of backwards!! Why be down now??!! yes Bobo could be better, and the OL and running game..but hey we looked better, and look even better this coming year!! IC and AM have shown greatness..and that they can get better. Lets just see what this year brings. More competition at QB and RB will make everyone better. And the OL should be better this year and that will help in so many ways!! GO DAWGS!!!
truedawg
January 18th, 2012
4:32 pm
It hurst to say it but “Go Dawgs” has a point, he’s good but Joe T isn’t elite. We’ll see if the team looks better after two years under him. But trainers and coaches are only part. PLAYERS have to have the drive and will to win. I have to quote Tebow with his workout ideas..”somewhere, someone is working harder than me.. I must train harder” And to quote Mr. Walker ” the ball ain’t heavy” . Work now is what wins in the fall. GO DAWGS!!
big dog
January 18th, 2012
4:33 pm
what is a dawg
ole dawg
January 18th, 2012
4:39 pm
Don’t disagree with you Go, just believe that Joe T has access to any type of outside sources and training to set up the workout routines for S&C that he needs. I believe he was picked because he could be trusted to make sure the players were not slacking. Remember, he has access to players when the coaches do not. I believe a big part of his mission this past season was to get rid of slackers. Again, I do not disagree that we could make improvements.
big dog
January 18th, 2012
4:44 pm
Jo T is old School need to go young
Paddy
January 18th, 2012
5:16 pm
The coaches just need to go to U Iowa. Rated strongest and best conditioned football team 4 out of the last 5 years. they have no interest in reps. Their interest is lifting the most weight you can with many different exercises. Used to be call country strong.
reality check
January 18th, 2012
5:20 pm
SC has been an issue for some time now. We band aided the problem last year and every one sold us on things were better and how much they were in better shape. Well the LSU and MSU games proved otherwise.
In fact we have brought back former players who learned in THIS system. Whom that’s like bringing back communist to change the soviet union.
I think this is a KEY area for sure. We need healthy diets and strong work outs. Finish the Drill…. o wait that’s old school.
Columbus
January 18th, 2012
5:21 pm
You little young babies are funny! We are lucky to have Joe T. Personally I would rather have Kasey onboard instead the other 4 but I guess he wants to relax and I dont blame him. Hopefully he will continue to advise in some capacity. Can he work for free if he wants? Probably not. The strengt hand conditioning program is on the right track and if you had been there analyzing the results last year, you would know that. UGA did not lose to the ranked teams because they were not in condition in 2011. That is so funny. UGA lost because A) Boise ST. was better first game of the year with all their veterans by a mile. Turnovers and special teams lost the SC game. LSU was MUCH better overall and Murray cost us the Michigan State game. MSU defense and their QB were awesome also. You say strength and conditioning is why UGA lost to ranked teams? You are wrong. UGA did not lose one game for that reason. The reasons above and not making second half adjustments, especially on offense.
reality check
January 18th, 2012
5:21 pm
“ole dawg” good word.
Stinger2
January 18th, 2012
5:22 pm
Surprised that no one has blamed UGA S&C issues on Bobo.
chaingangdawg
January 18th, 2012
5:29 pm
A lot of you dont know this but mizzou is losing 11 starters!!
Columbus
January 18th, 2012
5:33 pm
@SlyDog. You are wrong with all due respect. UGA would not have beat Boise or LSU. BOISE QB got rid of the ball too fast for that to matter. UGA could not stop them. They were a well-oiled machine that first game with many seniors and juniors. UGA imploded in the second half against LSU o nspecial teams ond Murray turnovers and LSU was the better team and were infamous for coming out the 2nd half and takign games over but UGA jsut started GIVING them the game. I will give you the MSU game to an extent because it was such a close score, that could have made a difference in a close game, but basically UGA should have won but made mistakes(Murray) and MSU had a great QB. So I totally disagree with you except that the S & C needs to CONTINUE to improve in this new direction. I think many of you do not see the ENTIRE picture of why games were lost and saying it was because of strength and conditioning is NOT factoring the ENTIRE many things that are relevant to the outcome of games. You cannot deny that but your S & C argument can definitely be denied. Again it can always get better but UGA has a lot of younger guys and ALSO this NEw program just got going. It did suck the last few years, it was scrutinized and scrapped and a new one in place including nutrituionists and mandatory eating by players on camous and monitoring what they eat. Look for more improvement in 2012. 2010 and the old program are history.
chaingangdawg
January 18th, 2012
5:33 pm
Enter your comments here
UGA76
January 18th, 2012
5:37 pm
I hope they now go out and hire a “state of the art” consultant to setup the program. I don’t think the strength and conditioning isn’t up to an acceptable level. There isn’t an emphasis on “explosion” and that’s a major flaw. Joe T. can administer a given program but I don’t think he can create the program. UGA still ran out of gas in the second half of several games including the first two and last two which were the 4 losses.
Go Dawgs!
January 18th, 2012
5:43 pm
Columbus – what games were you watching?!
Both the LSU and MSU games the Dawgs were all but dominating them until around the middle of the 3rd qtr in each game.
What changed? hmmm, as I recall it appeared to me that they appeared a bit gassed on both sides of the ball. You can play the “depth” card, but answer this- How many plays did you see the Honey Badger, Hightower, or Kirkpatrick take off in the NC game? There were many more on both sides that played the majority of the game.
If you can HONESTLY sit there and say that our players look anything like Bama’s or LSU’s then buddy you need glasses.
Our players were worn out by the 4th qtr in both of those games. Heck even several Mich St players looked to be stronger and in better condition.
And Reality Check- while you put the BASICS out there, it takes more than that.
S&C is one area where old school isn’t cool.
Sheesh get your heads out of the sand people!
Bob
January 18th, 2012
5:44 pm
Another failed experiment in a long line of recent Richt failures. When will Adams quit kissing a$$ and wise up, and use our $3M a year on a coach that will help us actually contend for something?
13-1 SEC East Champions 2012
January 18th, 2012
6:00 pm
Chip Towers January 18th, 2012 12:12 pm
“Flat Tire: No, I deleted your post because it was untrue, just like this last one is untrue. Auburn and Florida were ranked when Georgia beat them this year and the Bulldogs beat No. 7 Georgia Tech and No. 18 Michigan State in 2009. That’s how the official records are kept, not what a team was ranked at the end of the year but what their ranking was at the time of the contest. Granted, Georgia’s record against ranked teams the last three years is poor (3-10), but that’s different than being winless. And I don’t know with what team your allegiance lies but you come in here every day with an agenda to insult and agitate Georgia fans and I get constant complaints about it. If you just want to yell “Georgia stinks” every day, then go to the vent and shout it to the heavens. In the meantime, I’ll reserve the right to delete your posts when they’re inaccurate or just plain mean and spiteful.”
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CENSORSHIP
Internet is about free and open communications. Try going to Wiki today Mr. Towers. No one cares that South Carolina in 2007 was ranked when we played them Mr. Towers. The fact is that they ended up 6-6 and not even in a bowl game. If Flat Tire wants to come in here and say against teams who ended up in the AP Poll Top 25, that Georgia is 0-9 since beating # 13 Georgia tek in 2009, they are welcome to say so, sir. Whether that is Wrong or Not. Since we cannot see his post to see if what he said was or was not true, I personally will take your word for it Mr. Towers that is was not true what Flat Tire wrote.
Now, we delete Flat Tire’s posts that are not true on the AJ-C.
Yes, Flat Tire has an agenda. So, too, do those who say that Only Positive Statements can be made about a team you state here is 3-10 vs ranked teams at game time.
“That’s how the official records are kept, not what a team was ranked at the end of the year but what their ranking was at the time of the contest.”
Then, why does ESPN Chris Low state that it is what the team does over the course of the season, that defines the team as a good win or a bad loss ?
I would be more than willing to discuss this further.
hamstrings
January 18th, 2012
6:01 pm
in terms of S&C, this year was worse than the previous one. gassed in the 2nd half, lots of players lost to injuries. Joe T is doing an “old school” program that doesn’t address how the game is currently played. we had no explosive players this year like we had in ‘02, ‘05, ‘07. we looked doughy. we must train the way the game is played, not the way it was played in 1975.
@sportsguru95
January 18th, 2012
6:04 pm
@ Atticus – S & C is no diff @ Bama, LSU, r UGA! The difference is that Bama & LSU r 2 deep @ every position! UGA has 2 build depth & then U will c a difference! Saban brought s different style of recruting into the SEC, & CMR & others have 2 play catch up! Be patient!
13-1 SEC East Champions 2012
January 18th, 2012
6:10 pm
@sportsguru95,
We have some fine athletes here at Georgia as Chip Towers pointed out in his last blog. Yes, sir. We are short some players around here. We ran off a ton of players last year. Then, we awarded their scholarships to walk-ons. So, since the walk-ons have not played offense or defense, we are short players at the end of games as indicated by Todd Grantham’s quotes to Chip Towers after the bowl loss (again) this season to put us at 7-4 in bowl games.
Yes, we are short players.
LakeDawg
January 18th, 2012
6:11 pm
Thanks John! When I went to UGA, I would see Kasay all over the campus. That guy ran everywhere. All of the time!
LakeDawg
January 18th, 2012
6:19 pm
@13-1 SEC East Champions 2012
re: CENSORSHIP
I couldn’t agree more. It seems Mr. Towers has changed the rules of the board. Now if you’re overly negative toward the UGA program you’re censored. Mr. Towers could have posted that Flat Tire is wrong and explained why he was wrong. AND Flat Tire has a right to give his opinion on how that stat is kept. BTW Flat Tire has stated many times that he counts the final AP rankings as his criteria.
JDawg1785
January 18th, 2012
6:35 pm
Thanks for all your hard work, Coach Kasey! Happy retirement! DGD!
JDawg1785
January 18th, 2012
6:36 pm
*Kasay
Army Strong
January 18th, 2012
8:40 pm
Thomas Brown… DGD. I’m glad he’s back
dan
January 18th, 2012
10:34 pm
Daytona Dawg
“Georgia has plenty of money to get someone top notch….I’m just not sure if they’ll know them when they see them.”
Gosh what a horrible statement. Is it any wonder our fan-base is so content with being second tier? We don’t know what great looks like. Alabama might have sold their soul for a football coach, but you got to say they’re getting their money’s worth and then some on their investment. Richt goes 7-5 and 6-7 and keeps his job? That’s pathetic( and I like Richt).
Thomas Brown
January 19th, 2012
3:20 am
LakeDawg,
Absolutely totally correct, sir. “It seems Mr. Towers has changed the rules of the board. Now if you’re overly negative toward the UGA program you’re censored.” Not sure it is even overly negative LakeDawg. Look at Mr. Towers’ statement closely : “And I don’t know with what team your allegiance lies but you come in here every day with an agenda to insult and agitate Georgia fans and I get constant complaints about it.” LakeDawg, sir, I have no problem understanding Flat Tire’s agenda. He is like many UGA Bulldog fans who are not satisfied seeing in fact 27 teams who accomplished 10-Win Seasons for the 2011 season just completed, not when we are Dead Last with 4-Losses. No 10-Win team 2011 had more losses than we at 4. For the # 11 All-Time FBS 1-A Wins Total team, this is simply Not Good.
I fear the last poster will have his post removed because he presents his agenda and because he might not have said it 100 percent correctly. This is the Internet. The whole entire purpose of the Internet I have been an integral part of my whole life, as many of us have, is the Free and Open Communication of our views. There are entirely too many posters whose only purpose in posting to this blog of Mr. Towers is to censor everyone else from making statements such as dan just did in the last post. What this small minority clique actually have said themselves on the same topic has been Far More Negative than dan just now.
What is so hard to understand about That, Mr. Towers ? Agenda ? The Agenda, Mr. Towers of the AJ-C, should not be to delete Flat Tire’s post because you don’t understand at all what is plain as the nose on Flat Tire’s face that he : (1) Is no Georgia tek fan as they claim everyday in their every mean and spiteful reply to Flat Tire, sir. (2) That Flat Tire does not believe that The SEC was anything but a Down SEC in 2002 when only 1 other team made the Coaches’ Poll Top 25 in 2002, a 4-Loss Auburn. (3) That 2002 was now this up-coming 2012 season a Decade ago, 10 seasons ago; and that 2005, we Ended Up The # 3 team in just The SEC (not # 1) in Every Single Solitary Poll. And, that the 2005 Season was 7 seasons ago now this up-coming 2012 season. (4) What is so hard to understand about Flat Tire’s posts or agenda or whatever you want to call it that Georgia is not doing well, by even Mr. Chip Towers’ admission of he says 3-10 vs teams ranked at game time.
Here is what I know for facts :
(A) We have Lost 9 Consecutive Games vs teams who finished in the AP Poll Top 25, dating back all the way to 2009, which is 4 seasons ago now this up-coming 2012 season, when we beat then Georgia tek who ended up in the Only Polls Published for the 2009 season # 13 in the Final AP Poll. By the way, we Lost 5 games this said 2009 season, and ended up Not Ranked in the AP Poll Top 25.
(B) We have Lost 7 Consecutive Games vs teams who finished in the AP Poll Top 10, dating all the way back to the 2006 season, which is now this up-coming 2012 season, 6 seasons ago, when we beat Auburn who ended up # 9 in the AP Poll. By the way, in 2006 we Lost 4 games including to 8-Loss Vandie.
We haven’t beat a team who finished in the AP Poll Top 25 since 2009; and, we haven’t beat a team who finished in the AP Poll Top 10 since 2006.
When Flat Tire’s Agenda is Not Allowed, that is to say when Flat Tire cannot makes these statements because his Agenda is Obvious to Everyone Else except for Mr. Chip Towers, that he is Not Satisfied, and states so in Public daily, then this is Pure and Simple
CENSORSHIP.
Further, here are The Official Records showing that Georgia has not been all that great after the 2005 season :
(a) We are in fact # 21 Win Percentage after The 2005 Season. The 2005 Season was 8 seasons ago now this up-coming 2012 Season.
(b) There is Only 1 Poll Published for Every Season, the Final Polls.
(c) It Does Matter whom it is you beat and whom it is you lost to. If the team you Lost to was a Ranked team at game time, is that more relevant than what that team’s entire body of work for that said season, for example South Carolina was a ranked team at game time in 2007; yet, in fact in the only polls published for 2007, you will not find South Carolina. This is because they were in Fact 6-6 and did not even play in a bowl game. Yet we Lost to them. If none of the teams my alma mater beat after beating Georgia tek in 2009 who ended up # 13 in the AP Poll, have finished the season in the AP Poll Top 25, then that is significant to 100 percent of the posters to this blog, no matter how clear their Agenda.
(d) There are Many Sites which show, therefore Mr. Towers, what the team’s record was vs ranked opponents at what some of the sites refer to as EOS Rankings, End of Season Rankings. There are sites which also present TOG Rankings, that is what the team was ranked at Game Time. Unfortunately for Chip Towers, I believe his post may be incorrect and he must delete his own post by his new standards that for a post to be allowed to be posted, that it must conform to his own perceptions of what is true and what is not true because I do not believe that Florida was a ranked team when we played them. In fact, therefore his entire post must be deleted by him for such an erroneous false untrue statement. They were Mr. Towers, not Florida and Georgia tek who were ranked at game time, but Auburn and Georgia tek who were ranked at game time. However, Georgia tek lost wasn’t it 5 of its last 7 games this season ? They got No Votes in either the AP Poll nor the Coaches’ Poll for the 2011 season – you know the Only Poll Published for the 2011 season, the Final Polls. If you need URL Links as to where go find those, let me know ? Auburn Lost 5 of its last 11 games and therefore ended the season Not Top 25 in the Final AP Poll and Not Top 25 in the Coaches’ Poll.
(e) Here is a URL Link where it shows UGA at 0-4 vs ranked teams for the 2011 season. It doesn’t even bother breaking out TOG or EOS, just presents 0-4. It says here that we went 10-0 vs unranked AP Poll teams and 0-4 vs ranked AP Poll teams : http://www.cfbstats.com/2011/team/257/index.html
(f) I can show you 100 more sites just like this one that also present Official Records for the Season breaking out how each team did over the course of the season compared to what that team’s opponents did over the course of their season.
(g) Moreover, your post is “UNTRUE AND INACCURATE” Mr. Chip Towers sir in stating that : “Auburn and Florida were ranked when Georgia beat them this year” ISN’T IT MR. CHIP TOWERS, SIR ?
When only those who dare to agree with us, are allowed to post on Internet blogs, what a boring World this would become.
duronimo
January 19th, 2012
10:29 am
I think we improved this year stamina wise, but how can we be so physical against LSU and get pushed around in the second half. This happened a bunch. We have a ways to go to be able to play a full game in the SEC. UGA is known for play 1/2 games. This applies to the offensive line as well. Our blue chipper, laden offensive line was dominated by smaller better conditioned athletes. Also the backs had to be pulled every other play. UGA is more like an ACC team. That’s why they get beat so often by good teams in and out of the conference.
Shawn
January 21st, 2012
12:05 am
The funny thing about the Cochran guy predicting our funeral is that they were the gassed team in that game. 31-0 at the half and they hung on 41-31. The real reason for the funeral was that we had 28 players that had starting experience out for at least 6 games that year. In that particular game we had a coming out party for a true freshman center named Ben Jones against mount Cody, along with two other freshmen at guards and a defensive lineman at left tackle. That will spell trouble against any team especially an SEC power house. I think we will be in much better shape in year 2 under “Old School” Tereshinski!
Jacket99
January 21st, 2012
9:58 am
Mandelbaum! Mandelbaum!
ugab
January 21st, 2012
10:27 am
Uga just can’t compete with the S&C of Alabama and LSU. I don’t think our S&C competes with teams like Vanderbilt. MR IS NOT A COACH THAT WORKS HIS PLAYERS LIKE THE PLAYERS SHOULD BE TO COMPETE ALL SEASON. LSU HAD THE DAWGS GASSED, AS DID MS. MS COACHES KNEW MR LIKES TO TAKES TIME OFF WHEN MR GETS THE CHANCE TOO. IT GOES WAY BACK TO THE WV BOWL GAME. WE ARE FAT, LAZY AND LOOK TERRIBLE. FOOTBALL IS A PHYSICAL GAME.
RxDog
January 22nd, 2012
8:39 pm
Trust me, our players are just as physically strong as players on any other team, and as far as them being as well conditioned is debatable. Revamping S&C is not a magic bullet that’s going to fix the problems we have….A 500lb bench press sounds nice but it doesn’t translate into football fundamentals….