Charles, Rambo struggling over NFL early-entry decisions

ATHENS — There was not a ton of news to be found Friday at Georgia’s Outback Bowl media briefing at Butts-Mehre Heritage Hall, but a lot of interesting commentary and discussion. We determined that tight end Orson Charles, saftey Bacarri Rambo and quarterback Aaron Murray (yes, you read that right) turned in their paperwork to be evaluated by the NFL for the draft. We also learned that outside linebacker Jarvis Jones did not fill out said paperwork. He’s sticking with his earlier declaration to return next season, despite multiple All-America awards and the becoming the SEC sack leader.

I’ll have more details in a later report but, in a nutshell, it seems as though Charles and Rambo are really struggling with their decisions. Murray, eligible to be drafted as a redshirt (or third-year) sophomore, said he’s not really contemplating an early leap at this time but was just curious to see what NFL scouts  had to say about his game and how it might eventually translate to the pros.

In the meantime, head coach Mark Richt reiterated his devotion to remaining at UGA as long as the school will have him, confirmed he never heard a peep from Texas A&M or Penn State and expressed gratification for what was characterized as an imminent contract extension. He also talked about re-opening the tailback competition on the grounds of poor production the last third of the season. And it sounds as though he expects Isaiah Crowell and everybody else to be eligible to participate in the Jan. 2 game.

Following is a transcription of Richt’s remarks followed by some comments from a few players.

Head Coach Mark Richt

Opening Statement:

“It is a great day for the University of Georgia in that it’s graduation day. We had a lot of student-athletes graduate today. We had 10 today from football. A couple of them had been playing pro football for a few years and came back and finished up. We’ve been averaging about 19 football players a year graduating over the last 11 seasons. We’re just so proud of them, and it’s fun to see those guys at the tail ends of their careers and seeing their families and the young men themselves be so excited about getting that sheepskin. Congratulations to all of those guys. Everybody else got to practice today. It was a great day, beautiful. It felt like the first day of spring ball. There was a lot of lively competition. I think we had a little scrap here and there. There was just a great spirit about everybody. I thought the effort was great. I thought we got better today fundamentally and at a competitive level. You definitely either get better or get worse, and I think we got better today. That was nice.

“We know we’re in for a tremendous challenge. I’m aware that (Michigan State) is pretty hungry for a bowl victory right now, but they have a lot of maturity and a lot of winners to go get after it. So we have to make sure we are ready to get after it too.”

On whether motivation for a bowl game:

“This game has a bigger feel, having a dual purpose and a dual motivation. We want to win this game for a lot of reasons. We’d like to finish with 11 wins. We’ve had seven other teams do that and we’d like to be the eighth team. We would absolutely love for our seniors to walk out of that locker room with a smile on their face. It’s hard to get all excited at the end of your career if the last game you played was a loss. It’s tough. You’re sitting there hugging everybody’s neck and wishing them the best. It’s going to be the last time that team is going to be together, and we want that to be a great victory. It’s also the first game of 2012, and the way everything is set up in the BCS system, I think how you finish has something to do with how people see you when the season begins the next year. I think it’s important for the future too to play well and try to get the victory. There are a lot of reasons why we want to win, and they have the same motivation. They have a great football team and a great group of players and coaches. You turn that film on, and you immediately see that you are playing a well-coached bunch of guys who get after it. We better be ready.”

How last year’s bowl experience might help this year:

“It was just so different a year ago, just the overall spirit of the team by the time we got to that one. We were all professional and we all wanted to do our best. It was hard to have a lot of life. It was a battle. Out there today if you saw those guys, they were fired up about playing football. They were enjoying each other and had a great day. I think we’ve learned to understand that we get to play in a bowl game; we don’t have to play in a bowl game. I think the guys are excited about the opportunity. I think overall this team has taken on a much more positive outlook on things from the very beginning starting last January.”

On whether Richt and Orson Charles have discussed Charles’ future:

“I’ve not. I would imagine every junior in the United States of America is kind of wondering when is the time and when is not the time. When the regular season is over and there is a little lull between that and the bowl game, I think some of those guys are thinking about it. If you’d been out there watching practice today, he was just soaking it in and enjoying being at Georgia. He’s just kind of an upbeat guy who is just enjoying the experience right now. I’m sure somewhere along the line he’s going to sit down and figure out what he wants to do.”

On Orson Charles’ place among the tight ends in Georgia history:

“Orson is a very talented guy. He’s not like a big giant guy when it comes to blocking, but he blocks bigger than he is. Because he’s not this big lumberjack, he’s a sleek receiver. He can run routes, he can change direction, he can catch the ball .You can split him out and play receiver. You can keep him at tight end and he’s legitimate. Some guys will line up in the tight end position, but they’re not tight ends in my opinion because they can’t block like they can. Some tight ends will flex out as a third receiver, but they’re not really a third receiver. This guy is a legitimate third receiver and a legitimate blocker. We try to take advantage of those guys best we can and hope to continue to do that.”

On Richard Samuel’s status:

“We expect him to play in the game. He got some run polish, I guess it was today. We weren’t ready to go full bore with him yet, but we expect him to play. I would imagine when we get to the bowl site he would do everything would be my guess from what I’ve heard from Ron (Courson). He may go full speed tomorrow. I haven’t talked to Ron yet.”

On whether he would consider moving Samuel or another tailback to fullback next year…

“No, of the bunch of tailbacks right now, we would not put anybody at fullback. Richard I would definitely not put at fullback, none of those kids. If they came and asked me and begged me, I don’t know. I don’t see those guys as being the fullback type.”

On how much Richard Samuel has been missed while injured…

“Richard has been around the program a while. This is his fourth year. He’s got some maturity about him, and that group had a lot of inexperience. When he was in there they were just a little more grown up. There was more stability there and more maturity there, so we definitely missed him. Just as a player he’s a powerful back. He had a couple of great moments before when he played tailback, but as far as a game his last game he played when he got hurt, I think that was his best performance. I think he thought it was his best performance. Sometimes you need one of those games to give you the confidence to do it every single game. I think he was just hitting his stride and he got slowed up. I would say by the time we play the game he will have run the ball enough and changed direction enough. Hopefully he doesn’t have much rust on him at all.”

On having an open competition at running back…

“Do you guys think anybody established themselves as a solid starter at the tailback position? I’m not seeing that. Competition is a good thing, so I’m looking forward to it.”

An update on Mike Gilliard’s progress towards returning to action from injury…

“I just saw him walking on the field here towards the end of practice. He did have a boot on, but he was not on crutches, he wasn’t very ginger. His gait was good, and if you didn’t look down below his knees you would say he was just walking normal. So I thought that was a good sign, but I have no idea for what that means for practicing in the next couple of days. Richard (Samuel) we expect to play unless there is some kind of set back. Michael we are hoping he can play.”

On player’s he has coached throughout his career, if there has been a more scrutinized player than Isaiah Crowell…

“I won’t talk specifically to Isaiah’s notoriety, but nowadays the way the recruiting process is guys become bigger than life before they even walk on the campus. That’s a tough responsibility for anybody to try to live up and to feel like you are just a regular guy when all of a sudden every move you do make somebody has got a comment on it or an opinion about it. That’s got to be tough. I’ve talked to Isaiah. I’ve talked to other guys like (Matthew) Stafford, (Knowshon) Moreno and A.J. (Green) about learning to deal with the notoriety, the celebrity of it. I get to live with certain things, but you have to know that when you walk out the door to grab a bite to eat or something more than likely someone is going to come up to you and speak to you and maybe want an autograph, a picture or something like that. It’s just kind of part of the thing, and you just kind of used to the fact that people watch you and are interested in what you say and do. That’s tough on a kid that young. I’m pretty much of a full grown man I think most of the time. That’s kind of hard to get used to myself, but I don’t want to start a speech.”

With exams wrapping up this week is everyone going to be eligible…

“I have not talked to our academic people yet. I asked a bunch of kids today how they are doing and everybody seemed to be thinking things went well. I know going into it there weren’t any major concerns but there’s always a chance somebody blows up. Going into these rounds of exams it wasn’t like we were holding our breath on anything.”

On if grades will be posted at a certain time that he knows of…

“I’m sure they will, but I don’t know when the deadline is and I have not asked. Two days ago I started at 6 a.m. and got in at midnight. Yesterday, we practiced, went straight to the airplane, recruited and got in after midnight, got up went to graduation, did practice and came here, so really I haven’t had much time to do anything other than recruit and coach.”

If it is gratifying to be having contract extension talks…

“Oh yeah. I know I had a comment that went out, but I love Georgia. It’s a great place. It’s our home. I want it to remain our home for a long time. I’m thankful that Georgia wants me to be here, and I certainly want to be at Georgia and now we just got to talk about terms and all that kind of thing. All the talks we’ve had have been very positive and upbeat. It is about the head coach sometimes because if the coach’s contract is long enough everybody has a little bit of peace and has a sense that there is stability within the program. All that is going to happen, but there are other things that we talk about too. Student-athlete welfare stuff or maybe we can do this or that. He might see something that he would like me to improve and I might say we want to work on some kind of facility issue. What I’m saying is we’ve just had some great talks, not only about extending my contract, but what can we do to be the ‘Best in America’ type talks too, which is exciting. There are no great details to talk about, but it’s an atmosphere of sensing the excitement of what the future is holding for Georgia. I feel like we’ve created a lot of really positive momentum and just want to keep it going. We want to do everything it takes to keep it going.”

On if his future has been something he’s had to address in recruiting…

“There’s been some that have just come out and said ‘I’d like my son to go to Georgia, but I’m not sure what is going on’ maybe in the summer or after the second game of the year. So there were some people that would just come out and say that, and there were others that maybe through the high school coach would say ‘coach, if everything was set he would have done it a month ago.’ You hear some of that type of conversation going on. Now that everything is real solid in that way I got a feeling there will be a few guys that were kind of holding back or maybe deciding on another school or rethinking what they are doing because they feel really good about what is happening at Georgia right now.”

If UGA has been playing catch up in the recruiting process because of that…

“Yes. I guess that’s a good way to say it. We really felt like we were going to have a really good class or had the makings of a really good class. We knew the more we won the better chance we would have to nail a great one. I think we still have the potential for a really great class.”

If midseason enrollees can participate in bowl practice…

“They can but we are not going to do that. What happens is if the underclassmen participate in a bowl practice they can’t play in these all-star games, so that’s kind of stopped that a little bit. The other thing is that it used to be that they not only could practice on your site they could go to the bowl with you. They used to be able to get bowl gifts. Now it’s a little different story. Those guys might have taken the bowl trip rather than playing in an all-star game and they had to weight that out. I think it’s good. I don’t think they can gain much by practicing once or twice. It’s awkward. They don’t know what they are doing. They’re not going to be confident. I don’t think it’s a good idea.”

Injury updates for Derrick Lott and Drew Butler…

“Derrick sprained he ankle in practice yesterday. Drew, he sprained his ankle out and about I guess. What happened was he had those shoes you get for tuxedo nights and they are kind of slick and slippery. He slipped, but I don’t know exactly how it happened. You can ask him, but something happened where he slipped because the shoes were kind of slick and it tweaked it.”

On what he is doing to turn special teams around…

“First of all, we know we have got to get better. It’s two things in my opinion that it could be – either what we are doing schematically or its who do we have on those teams. I guess it could be a third thing – are they actually doing what we are asking them to do. In all those areas we must improve. I think there’s going to be a high sense of urgency on our special teams to become more than just decent. We need to become really good. That’s one of the biggest things is that we try to become one of the top teams in the league and the country in special teams play. There will be some very heavy discussions about it. We’ll probably do more special teams work in the spring than we’ve done in the past. We knew we had a great punter, great kicker, holder, snapper and all that kind of thing, but we also knew we had some youth on some of those teams. We lost (Akeem) Dent, (Darryl) Gamble, (Demarcus) Dobbs – I’m trying to think of some of the other guys that were on some of these guys that were on that punt team – they were guys that could protect, escape and run and tackle a guy in the open field. We lost a batch of those guys and we were a little shy on linebacker depth and all that kind of thing, so we just have to keep recruiting those kinds of guys. If we got to put a bunch of starters on defense on some specials or starters at wide receiver or whatever you got to do – tailback. I don’t care what position, we got to get the best guys out there and understand how crucial it is.”

On his thoughts on his name being connected to other jobs…

“(Texas) A&M got bigger than life…I had not been contacted personally. Anybody who could have possibly represented me in any way, shape or form, never said to me A&M is interested. I don’t know where all that came from. That was interesting to me to have that much smoke and no one that I know of got contacted on it. I have not heard a thing or word from Penn State. I’ve never been a guy to try and leverage a situation because the first day I got it here I said I want to be at Georgia. I said I wanted it to be the last coaching job I have. I’m very interested in winning, doing things the right way and stability for my family. I got to see at Florida State the benefits of stability in a coaching staff. I got to see the benefits of guys playing five years ago, six years ago, seven years ago, eight years ago, and coming back and seeing coach (Bobby Bowden). Seeing people he knows, loves and trusts it’s great. I’ve coached with a couple guys along the way that have never seen a class go from freshman to senior in their whole career. They never stayed four or five years anywhere long enough to see a guy through to the end. You see guys like Ben Harden and Justin Anderson and all these guys like Bruce Figgins. You see them in their house when they are 17-year-old kids and then you see them all grown up ready for life. I enjoy that a lot. That’s a big part of why I coach. You don’t get that if you are always looking for something better. There’s always going to be something that might look better, but for me, there is no place that is better.”

On if it gets irritating to have his named come up over the years in regards to other coaching jobs…

“I personally don’t think it’s become that big of an issue. I’ll answer this. Have teams contacted me? Yes. Have people contacted my agents in the past? Yes. But I’ve always behind closed doors, behind the scene said you know what I appreciate your interest but I like it where I’m at and I don’t have any interest. So a lot of things haven’t become a big deal. I haven’t said let me go fly there and take a look. I’ve never done that. I’ve never really wanted to do that because I care about our recruiting class currently. If I know in my heart this is where I want to be then I don’t want to play a game for any reason. All I’m asking is for everything to be as fair as we can. I want to give Georgia my best, and I want Georgia to give us its best.”

On reflecting back to his playing days and the bowl game selection process being more open compared to now bowl games being more structured and which way he likes better…

“All I know is when I was a player we went to one bowl when I was at Miami. It was the Peach Bowl. That was a big deal. We froze our rear ends off. We got a Peach Bowl watch. I gave it to my dad. But I don’t know. I think one that I would be for – and I might get in trouble for this but I hope not – I think it would be interesting to rotate some of the BCS games. Where the SEC may go to the Sugar Bowl this year, go the Fiesta next year and whatever and have people do that. But there is such tradition in the SEC with the Sugar Bowl and the Pac-10 and Big Ten or 12 or whatever they are called now going to the Rose and all that kind of thing. I don’t know if that will ever happen, but I think that would be interesting for fans, players and coaches to have a different destination, a kind of built in rotating destination.”

If there are any concerns with the defense from the second half of the LSU game…

“A lot of the issues were special teams related and turnover related. There’s some times we just got gapped out on a run and it went to the house. I don’t think we left there with problems we can’t solve at all.”

GEORGIA PLAYERS

C Ben Jones:

  • On playing Michigan State – “It’s going to be a great challenge. Michigan State has one of the top defenses in the, so from an offensive standpoint, we are looking forward to the challenge.”
  • On playing in a bowl game — “It’s been nice weather all week and we’re looking forward to going to Tampa. We are really excited to go down there and experience everything that the Outback Bowl has planned for us. I think it’s going to be a great bowl game for me. It’s been a rollercoaster during my time at Georgia and I’m really excited about finishing off my career here with a bowl game.”

S Bacarri Rambo

  • On getting back to practice – “It feels good to be back on the practice field. Everyone had a good break and had a chance to give their bodies a rest after a long season. We’re excited to be back out there and continue to get better and work on fundamentals.”
  • On stopping Michigan State’s offense — “We have to get in the film room and learn their offense. When we watch film, we have to pick up on some of the key things about their offense. Once we get out on the field, we just have to continue to play our best. We have to run to the ball and continue to do things that we have done all season. Everyone needs to focus on doing their job and not trying to do too much. Michigan State has good receivers and a really good quarterback. He is a guy that shows a lot of leadership and makes good decisions with the ball.”
  • On playing the last game of the season – “We have to go out there and leave it all on the field. This is the last game of the season for us so we don’t have anything else to look forward to. We have to go out there and give our all for this team and the fans.”

LB Christian Robinson:

  • On playing Michigan State – “I’m really excited to play Michigan State. I was a freshman the last time that we played them and I didn’t get to play. I think this game is going to be a great matchup because of the style of offense that they run and the defense that we have. There is a lot of motivation for both sides. We are both playing for respect and to end our seasons on a high note. These two teams match up really well on paper and I am excited to see how that translates on the field.”
  • On getting back to practice — “We have had a lot of free times to finish up exams and wrap up the semester. Now, we are getting in the groove of bowl practices. We’ve had great weather this week, so practice hasn’t been as rough.”
  • On playing in a bowl game – “The biggest difference in playing in a bowl game and regular season game is that there is a lot of stuff going on. We don’t have school, so it’s about playing football and enjoying the experience. This is a big trip for us. I love going to bowl games because we get to be with the seniors for one more trip and one more game. I’m ready to go out there and make some memories.”

CB Brandon Boykin

  • On bowl preparation – “You have a lot more time to prepare for a bowl game than you do for a regular-season game. The environment is a little more laid back because we have some time to enjoy ourselves before the game. Once the game starts though, we have o handle business. We are going to treat this like any other game but still enjoy the experience.”
  • On Michigan State – “Michigan State is a great team that is evenly matched on paper. They have a great defense and a lot of explosive players on offense. They have a great group of wide receivers and an experienced quarterback, so we have our work cut out for us. We’re excited to get the chance to play them.”

206 comments Add your comment

John

December 16th, 2011
3:27 pm

UGAKev

December 16th, 2011
3:29 pm

UGAKev

December 16th, 2011
3:39 pm

There’s always going to be something that might look better, but for me, there is no place that is better.” AMEN coach

Spanky

December 16th, 2011
3:44 pm

I just heard that Hutson Mason will be transferring. Even though he’s really impressed me, I can’t blame him! Go Dawgs!!

mark

December 16th, 2011
3:44 pm

i can’t believe richt didnt say they were gonna hire a special teams coach !!!!! are you kidding me?? with that being the only bad spot on our team, cost us 1 if not 2 of the 3 losses….and almost cost us the vandy & fla game…..!!!!! are you kidding….????????

G-Dawg

December 16th, 2011
3:45 pm

3-2-1…..here comes the haters!!

Spike

December 16th, 2011
3:49 pm

Orson, One more year, baby!!

LHarding Dawg

December 16th, 2011
3:52 pm

Give him his 3 year extension and a raise. DGD. Great interview. Come on in haters!

RiffRaff

December 16th, 2011
3:54 pm

I really hope Charles returns for one more year.

Mitch Cumstein

December 16th, 2011
3:56 pm

It sure would be nice to hire a special teams coach and an offensive coordinator.

Bobo is a DGD however, a DGOF he is not. I think he lost the SECCG by putting the offense in bad situations that the defense couldn’t bail them out of.

Learn the game Mark

December 16th, 2011
3:56 pm

So Mark, if you hire a special teams coach, which coach do you want to drop? Do you know the rules? Seems not.

VinnyD

December 16th, 2011
3:56 pm

I think Orson will leave, I see Rambo staying one more year. Jarvis didn’t even turn his paperwork in to the NFL, that is amazing.

Augusta dawg

December 16th, 2011
3:57 pm

Murray? Really? He needs another year for sure

McDawg

December 16th, 2011
3:57 pm

i bet Rambo goes

WDE

December 16th, 2011
4:01 pm

Great article ! Go Dawgs !

hartdawg

December 16th, 2011
4:02 pm

Mark Richt is a class act. All those fans who were ready to put him out to pasture should be ashamed. GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Murray ain't going...

December 16th, 2011
4:03 pm

…nowhere – the other two are probably as good as gone – Charles should be no lower than a second rounder, and may even sneak into the first; Rambo will probably be a 2nd to 3rd rounder, as he still has miles to go to be higher, though he did come on strong at the end of the season. He is still raw and will surely benefit from one more year and building on this year, but time will tell –

This is akin to the Stafford year where after UGA was picked to be #1 and tanked they would have been lights out if Stafford and Moreno had come back – next year’s team could also be lights out IF everyone comes back, but at least these two will not, so that will leave some pretty significant holes to fill, especially at tight end and on the corners in the secondary.(Rambo can be replaced more easily)…

Top Row Dog

December 16th, 2011
4:03 pm

Crowell made his grades and is practising well today. Don’t believe all the Internet rumors.

Ybor City here we come!!!!!

Right On Time

December 16th, 2011
4:06 pm

They should both stay. They have a slight chance to do something special next year. No reason to rush to the riches unless you are in a position like Staford or AJ.

Murray is not going anywhere NEXT year, much less this year!

CMR will be here for 9 more years. 20 is a nice, round # to leave on and he will have the UGA record for wins.

superDawg

December 16th, 2011
4:10 pm

I hope they all return for a great season next year.Damn good DAWGS all of them.

Destin Dawg

December 16th, 2011
4:11 pm

Dawgs should stay for SEC. champs next year.. then NFL draft stock goes way UP !! Go Dawgs beaT MSU !!

Bama in Atlanta

December 16th, 2011
4:11 pm

That would certainly help if Jones sticks with his original intentions and stays another year. I know some of the pro scouting reports said he would fare better by staying in school one more year since he had to take a year off but I’m sure he still would have earned a nice NFL paycheck by leaving now. Of course, the counter argument is what if he gets hurt again and washes out his pro career. Tough choice but definitely a good anchor to build your defense around if he stays.

I would not be surprised if Rambo declared for the draft this year since his stock is pretty high right now. Charles would not be that big of a loss as long as you have a backup that can block because the stable of returning receivers can take care of pass receptions.

Good luck in the Outback and I’m sure MSU is not looking forward to facing another SEC defense in a bowl game!

Destin Dawg

December 16th, 2011
4:13 pm

Hutson Mason should stay.. he’ll get a chance.. injuries happen !

@Mark

December 16th, 2011
4:14 pm

NCAA will only permit 1 head coach and 9 assistants. The current staff consists of:

Mark Richt Head Coach
Mike Bobo Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks Coach
Todd Grantham Defensive Coordinator/Outside Linebackers Coach
Rodney Garner Recruiting Coordinator/Defensive Line Coach
Tony Ball Wide Receivers Coach
John Lilly Tight Ends Coach
Will Friend Offensive Line Coach
Bryan McClendon Running Backs Coach
Kirk Olivadotti Inside Linebackers Coach
Scott Lakatos Secondary Coach

Mark Richt, as well as many other coaches, prefer to assign different aspects of special teams coverage to his various coaches. I’ll have to agree that whether it’s coaching or execution, special teams is an area that needs improvement.

Dap01

December 16th, 2011
4:14 pm

Chip: Great update. Go Dawgs.

Best AJC has to offer (DOB is good but too much non Braves stuff)

bucket

December 16th, 2011
4:15 pm

As a Dawg fan I hope that all of the draft eligible underclassmen stay and give us one more wild ride! However, you can’t blame a guy for setting himself up for the future if he has a chance to get drafted pretty high. Demetric Evans has proved that you can have a pretty good career in the NFL and then finish school when you are still a young man.

GTBob

December 16th, 2011
4:16 pm

Im not sure what Murray’s evaluation will show but he is insane if he tries to come out this year. This year’s draft will be loaded with QB’s.

Chris

December 16th, 2011
4:19 pm

good that richt didn’t seem to scared of isaiah’s grades. I know im scared!!! Cuz i want isaiah and we need isaiah. He needs to just get his mind right cuz he runs the ball really well when he is in there. Orson charles please come back!!!!
go dawgs

bucket

December 16th, 2011
4:20 pm

After looking at the above list of assistants, IF Richt were to look into hiring a special team’s coordinator I would say that John Lilly might want to polish off his resume.

Chris

December 16th, 2011
4:21 pm

gtbob i think there is a 0% chance he comes out. I think it was just to see where he was

Be a Man about it

December 16th, 2011
4:22 pm

Orson is as good as gone. They didn’t utilize him properly or enough. Really wasted his talents he should have been the undisputed No.1 TE in the country

bill arp

December 16th, 2011
4:23 pm

Richt’s got to let Mason get some quality PT in the bowl game. Just don’t see Murray taking us to the promised land. Too sporadic for me…

Not hating, just sayin…

dawgfan

December 16th, 2011
4:24 pm

Wow. That sucks. Rambo would definitely be a bigger loss because Bobo has never had any clue how to use Orson Charles. I mean look at that guy. Look at the way he runs and catches passes. He’s a linebacker with recievers hands. Who in the hell is going to stop him? I just feel like he hasn’t lived up to his potential with Bobo calling the plays. This guy should be absolutely owning everybody.

Thanks.

Chris

December 16th, 2011
4:25 pm

bill arp he is obviously a great qb justs need to continue to work on his accuracy. He improved aton since last year

Dawg_Mike

December 16th, 2011
4:25 pm

We go thru this every year at this time. Will ____stay or go ?
We hope that ___ will stay but in the end $$$$$$$ will win out. Alway does.

Be a Man about it

December 16th, 2011
4:26 pm

I will take all BETs that Charles is gone…………..

Taco Meat

December 16th, 2011
4:26 pm

I think Orson stays and Rambo goes. That’s just my 2 cents.

@GTBob

December 16th, 2011
4:29 pm

If you will go back and read the article, it states that Murray is just curious, he is not contemplating coming out. After all, it doesn’t cost anything other than a little paperwork. Now, if you want to talk about insanity, I think a trade school fan on a UGA blog, better fits the description.

Be a Man about it

December 16th, 2011
4:29 pm

Gone baby Gone

bubba4dawgs

December 16th, 2011
4:29 pm

Sure wish all the DAWGS would stay and enjoy a fantastic year next year! They will be the favorites in the East and next year in the dome will be different. South Carolina is having their problems, so is Florida and the OL is coming on stronger for next year. More depth in the DL and more experience with the receivers and more depth at running back! The cards are stacked!! GO DAWGS!!! It’s your turn!!!!

Albert Pujos

December 16th, 2011
4:30 pm

Show me the money!!!

slydog

December 16th, 2011
4:30 pm

This really isn’t a struggling decision…lol. Either go for the payday or stick around for the only senior season you’ll have in your life. It comes down to this: Orson Charles’ stock cannot get any higher. It can only get worse. And he is a TE. He does not need to show scouts that he can separate from LB’s, run block, or run precise routes. Rambo, on the other hand, can still move up. He still has to show better coverage skills and consistent hands and play-making ability. He’s not a guaranteed 1st rounder like Charles, let alone a first day guy.

Chris

December 16th, 2011
4:31 pm

i think rambo will stay for sure (key word think). I think there is 60/40 chance OC will go. STAY ORSON WIN A SEC TITLE

Be a Man about it

December 16th, 2011
4:32 pm

I knew he was gone after the Auburn game

slydog

December 16th, 2011
4:32 pm

Murray is simply getting evaluation to see about his prospects for coming out next year. His “size” is working against him leaving, relatively, after season #4. However, Drew Brees works in his favor.

Hard Truth Soldier

December 16th, 2011
4:32 pm

Orson Charles will Stay, I think he and Murray leave next year together, I know Murray has One year left after next, but LeMay to good to keep Locked down. Jay Rome the same way, he was the # 1 ranked T.E. in the Country and is bigger and faster than Charles, Plus Lynch is Ready as well. Georgia will be fine the next three to four years.

tell me again

December 16th, 2011
4:32 pm

The nfl is a huge leap. The money lures a lot of these kids away before they are truly ready. Murray is looking for an evaluation report. Surely he is not thinking of trying to go. He’s not close. Charles and Jones are possibilities but as good as they are I still see them needing another year to grow and mature. But hey, if the money talks it’s hard to walk away. And anyway, as far as evaluating nfl talent, I will say what Schultz used to say on Hogan’s Heroes. I know NOTHING!

Tuck Fech

December 16th, 2011
4:35 pm

I picked up some tickets to the Outback Bowl last week. Looking forward to going down there and representing the Dawg Nation. Michigan State women have cankles.

Chris

December 16th, 2011
4:36 pm

slydog i slightly disagree with that. OC can move up just because he will be the number 1 tight end in next year’s class. On most draft boards he is 2 or 3 (behind dwayne allen) so if he comes back he will be the number 1 tight end in next years draft. The first tight end usually goes late first round (so he is not a guarenteed 1st round pick) and the second and third tight ends go middle and late second. So he can move up in the draft

slydog

December 16th, 2011
4:36 pm

Hard Truth Soldier

What you just said is the #1 reason Charles leaves. He’ll get better coaching in the pros. Thta’s not a knock on CMR and staff. Every athlete gets better coaching and preparation in the pros.