ATHENS — There was not a ton of news to be found Friday at Georgia’s Outback Bowl media briefing at Butts-Mehre Heritage Hall, but a lot of interesting commentary and discussion. We determined that tight end Orson Charles, saftey Bacarri Rambo and quarterback Aaron Murray (yes, you read that right) turned in their paperwork to be evaluated by the NFL for the draft. We also learned that outside linebacker Jarvis Jones did not fill out said paperwork. He’s sticking with his earlier declaration to return next season, despite multiple All-America awards and the becoming the SEC sack leader.
I’ll have more details in a later report but, in a nutshell, it seems as though Charles and Rambo are really struggling with their decisions. Murray, eligible to be drafted as a redshirt (or third-year) sophomore, said he’s not really contemplating an early leap at this time but was just curious to see what NFL scouts had to say about his game and how it might eventually translate to the pros.
In the meantime, head coach Mark Richt reiterated his devotion to remaining at UGA as long as the school will have him, confirmed he never heard a peep from Texas A&M or Penn State and expressed gratification for what was characterized as an imminent contract extension. He also talked about re-opening the tailback competition on the grounds of poor production the last third of the season. And it sounds as though he expects Isaiah Crowell and everybody else to be eligible to participate in the Jan. 2 game.
Following is a transcription of Richt’s remarks followed by some comments from a few players.
Head Coach Mark Richt
Opening Statement:
“It is a great day for the University of Georgia in that it’s graduation day. We had a lot of student-athletes graduate today. We had 10 today from football. A couple of them had been playing pro football for a few years and came back and finished up. We’ve been averaging about 19 football players a year graduating over the last 11 seasons. We’re just so proud of them, and it’s fun to see those guys at the tail ends of their careers and seeing their families and the young men themselves be so excited about getting that sheepskin. Congratulations to all of those guys. Everybody else got to practice today. It was a great day, beautiful. It felt like the first day of spring ball. There was a lot of lively competition. I think we had a little scrap here and there. There was just a great spirit about everybody. I thought the effort was great. I thought we got better today fundamentally and at a competitive level. You definitely either get better or get worse, and I think we got better today. That was nice.
“We know we’re in for a tremendous challenge. I’m aware that (Michigan State) is pretty hungry for a bowl victory right now, but they have a lot of maturity and a lot of winners to go get after it. So we have to make sure we are ready to get after it too.”
On whether motivation for a bowl game:
“This game has a bigger feel, having a dual purpose and a dual motivation. We want to win this game for a lot of reasons. We’d like to finish with 11 wins. We’ve had seven other teams do that and we’d like to be the eighth team. We would absolutely love for our seniors to walk out of that locker room with a smile on their face. It’s hard to get all excited at the end of your career if the last game you played was a loss. It’s tough. You’re sitting there hugging everybody’s neck and wishing them the best. It’s going to be the last time that team is going to be together, and we want that to be a great victory. It’s also the first game of 2012, and the way everything is set up in the BCS system, I think how you finish has something to do with how people see you when the season begins the next year. I think it’s important for the future too to play well and try to get the victory. There are a lot of reasons why we want to win, and they have the same motivation. They have a great football team and a great group of players and coaches. You turn that film on, and you immediately see that you are playing a well-coached bunch of guys who get after it. We better be ready.”
How last year’s bowl experience might help this year:
“It was just so different a year ago, just the overall spirit of the team by the time we got to that one. We were all professional and we all wanted to do our best. It was hard to have a lot of life. It was a battle. Out there today if you saw those guys, they were fired up about playing football. They were enjoying each other and had a great day. I think we’ve learned to understand that we get to play in a bowl game; we don’t have to play in a bowl game. I think the guys are excited about the opportunity. I think overall this team has taken on a much more positive outlook on things from the very beginning starting last January.”
On whether Richt and Orson Charles have discussed Charles’ future:
“I’ve not. I would imagine every junior in the United States of America is kind of wondering when is the time and when is not the time. When the regular season is over and there is a little lull between that and the bowl game, I think some of those guys are thinking about it. If you’d been out there watching practice today, he was just soaking it in and enjoying being at Georgia. He’s just kind of an upbeat guy who is just enjoying the experience right now. I’m sure somewhere along the line he’s going to sit down and figure out what he wants to do.”
On Orson Charles’ place among the tight ends in Georgia history:
“Orson is a very talented guy. He’s not like a big giant guy when it comes to blocking, but he blocks bigger than he is. Because he’s not this big lumberjack, he’s a sleek receiver. He can run routes, he can change direction, he can catch the ball .You can split him out and play receiver. You can keep him at tight end and he’s legitimate. Some guys will line up in the tight end position, but they’re not tight ends in my opinion because they can’t block like they can. Some tight ends will flex out as a third receiver, but they’re not really a third receiver. This guy is a legitimate third receiver and a legitimate blocker. We try to take advantage of those guys best we can and hope to continue to do that.”
On Richard Samuel’s status:
“We expect him to play in the game. He got some run polish, I guess it was today. We weren’t ready to go full bore with him yet, but we expect him to play. I would imagine when we get to the bowl site he would do everything would be my guess from what I’ve heard from Ron (Courson). He may go full speed tomorrow. I haven’t talked to Ron yet.”
On whether he would consider moving Samuel or another tailback to fullback next year…
“No, of the bunch of tailbacks right now, we would not put anybody at fullback. Richard I would definitely not put at fullback, none of those kids. If they came and asked me and begged me, I don’t know. I don’t see those guys as being the fullback type.”
On how much Richard Samuel has been missed while injured…
“Richard has been around the program a while. This is his fourth year. He’s got some maturity about him, and that group had a lot of inexperience. When he was in there they were just a little more grown up. There was more stability there and more maturity there, so we definitely missed him. Just as a player he’s a powerful back. He had a couple of great moments before when he played tailback, but as far as a game his last game he played when he got hurt, I think that was his best performance. I think he thought it was his best performance. Sometimes you need one of those games to give you the confidence to do it every single game. I think he was just hitting his stride and he got slowed up. I would say by the time we play the game he will have run the ball enough and changed direction enough. Hopefully he doesn’t have much rust on him at all.”
On having an open competition at running back…
“Do you guys think anybody established themselves as a solid starter at the tailback position? I’m not seeing that. Competition is a good thing, so I’m looking forward to it.”
An update on Mike Gilliard’s progress towards returning to action from injury…
“I just saw him walking on the field here towards the end of practice. He did have a boot on, but he was not on crutches, he wasn’t very ginger. His gait was good, and if you didn’t look down below his knees you would say he was just walking normal. So I thought that was a good sign, but I have no idea for what that means for practicing in the next couple of days. Richard (Samuel) we expect to play unless there is some kind of set back. Michael we are hoping he can play.”
On player’s he has coached throughout his career, if there has been a more scrutinized player than Isaiah Crowell…
“I won’t talk specifically to Isaiah’s notoriety, but nowadays the way the recruiting process is guys become bigger than life before they even walk on the campus. That’s a tough responsibility for anybody to try to live up and to feel like you are just a regular guy when all of a sudden every move you do make somebody has got a comment on it or an opinion about it. That’s got to be tough. I’ve talked to Isaiah. I’ve talked to other guys like (Matthew) Stafford, (Knowshon) Moreno and A.J. (Green) about learning to deal with the notoriety, the celebrity of it. I get to live with certain things, but you have to know that when you walk out the door to grab a bite to eat or something more than likely someone is going to come up to you and speak to you and maybe want an autograph, a picture or something like that. It’s just kind of part of the thing, and you just kind of used to the fact that people watch you and are interested in what you say and do. That’s tough on a kid that young. I’m pretty much of a full grown man I think most of the time. That’s kind of hard to get used to myself, but I don’t want to start a speech.”
With exams wrapping up this week is everyone going to be eligible…
“I have not talked to our academic people yet. I asked a bunch of kids today how they are doing and everybody seemed to be thinking things went well. I know going into it there weren’t any major concerns but there’s always a chance somebody blows up. Going into these rounds of exams it wasn’t like we were holding our breath on anything.”
On if grades will be posted at a certain time that he knows of…
“I’m sure they will, but I don’t know when the deadline is and I have not asked. Two days ago I started at 6 a.m. and got in at midnight. Yesterday, we practiced, went straight to the airplane, recruited and got in after midnight, got up went to graduation, did practice and came here, so really I haven’t had much time to do anything other than recruit and coach.”
If it is gratifying to be having contract extension talks…
“Oh yeah. I know I had a comment that went out, but I love Georgia. It’s a great place. It’s our home. I want it to remain our home for a long time. I’m thankful that Georgia wants me to be here, and I certainly want to be at Georgia and now we just got to talk about terms and all that kind of thing. All the talks we’ve had have been very positive and upbeat. It is about the head coach sometimes because if the coach’s contract is long enough everybody has a little bit of peace and has a sense that there is stability within the program. All that is going to happen, but there are other things that we talk about too. Student-athlete welfare stuff or maybe we can do this or that. He might see something that he would like me to improve and I might say we want to work on some kind of facility issue. What I’m saying is we’ve just had some great talks, not only about extending my contract, but what can we do to be the ‘Best in America’ type talks too, which is exciting. There are no great details to talk about, but it’s an atmosphere of sensing the excitement of what the future is holding for Georgia. I feel like we’ve created a lot of really positive momentum and just want to keep it going. We want to do everything it takes to keep it going.”
On if his future has been something he’s had to address in recruiting…
“There’s been some that have just come out and said ‘I’d like my son to go to Georgia, but I’m not sure what is going on’ maybe in the summer or after the second game of the year. So there were some people that would just come out and say that, and there were others that maybe through the high school coach would say ‘coach, if everything was set he would have done it a month ago.’ You hear some of that type of conversation going on. Now that everything is real solid in that way I got a feeling there will be a few guys that were kind of holding back or maybe deciding on another school or rethinking what they are doing because they feel really good about what is happening at Georgia right now.”
If UGA has been playing catch up in the recruiting process because of that…
“Yes. I guess that’s a good way to say it. We really felt like we were going to have a really good class or had the makings of a really good class. We knew the more we won the better chance we would have to nail a great one. I think we still have the potential for a really great class.”
If midseason enrollees can participate in bowl practice…
“They can but we are not going to do that. What happens is if the underclassmen participate in a bowl practice they can’t play in these all-star games, so that’s kind of stopped that a little bit. The other thing is that it used to be that they not only could practice on your site they could go to the bowl with you. They used to be able to get bowl gifts. Now it’s a little different story. Those guys might have taken the bowl trip rather than playing in an all-star game and they had to weight that out. I think it’s good. I don’t think they can gain much by practicing once or twice. It’s awkward. They don’t know what they are doing. They’re not going to be confident. I don’t think it’s a good idea.”
Injury updates for Derrick Lott and Drew Butler…
“Derrick sprained he ankle in practice yesterday. Drew, he sprained his ankle out and about I guess. What happened was he had those shoes you get for tuxedo nights and they are kind of slick and slippery. He slipped, but I don’t know exactly how it happened. You can ask him, but something happened where he slipped because the shoes were kind of slick and it tweaked it.”
On what he is doing to turn special teams around…
“First of all, we know we have got to get better. It’s two things in my opinion that it could be – either what we are doing schematically or its who do we have on those teams. I guess it could be a third thing – are they actually doing what we are asking them to do. In all those areas we must improve. I think there’s going to be a high sense of urgency on our special teams to become more than just decent. We need to become really good. That’s one of the biggest things is that we try to become one of the top teams in the league and the country in special teams play. There will be some very heavy discussions about it. We’ll probably do more special teams work in the spring than we’ve done in the past. We knew we had a great punter, great kicker, holder, snapper and all that kind of thing, but we also knew we had some youth on some of those teams. We lost (Akeem) Dent, (Darryl) Gamble, (Demarcus) Dobbs – I’m trying to think of some of the other guys that were on some of these guys that were on that punt team – they were guys that could protect, escape and run and tackle a guy in the open field. We lost a batch of those guys and we were a little shy on linebacker depth and all that kind of thing, so we just have to keep recruiting those kinds of guys. If we got to put a bunch of starters on defense on some specials or starters at wide receiver or whatever you got to do – tailback. I don’t care what position, we got to get the best guys out there and understand how crucial it is.”
On his thoughts on his name being connected to other jobs…
“(Texas) A&M got bigger than life…I had not been contacted personally. Anybody who could have possibly represented me in any way, shape or form, never said to me A&M is interested. I don’t know where all that came from. That was interesting to me to have that much smoke and no one that I know of got contacted on it. I have not heard a thing or word from Penn State. I’ve never been a guy to try and leverage a situation because the first day I got it here I said I want to be at Georgia. I said I wanted it to be the last coaching job I have. I’m very interested in winning, doing things the right way and stability for my family. I got to see at Florida State the benefits of stability in a coaching staff. I got to see the benefits of guys playing five years ago, six years ago, seven years ago, eight years ago, and coming back and seeing coach (Bobby Bowden). Seeing people he knows, loves and trusts it’s great. I’ve coached with a couple guys along the way that have never seen a class go from freshman to senior in their whole career. They never stayed four or five years anywhere long enough to see a guy through to the end. You see guys like Ben Harden and Justin Anderson and all these guys like Bruce Figgins. You see them in their house when they are 17-year-old kids and then you see them all grown up ready for life. I enjoy that a lot. That’s a big part of why I coach. You don’t get that if you are always looking for something better. There’s always going to be something that might look better, but for me, there is no place that is better.”
On if it gets irritating to have his named come up over the years in regards to other coaching jobs…
“I personally don’t think it’s become that big of an issue. I’ll answer this. Have teams contacted me? Yes. Have people contacted my agents in the past? Yes. But I’ve always behind closed doors, behind the scene said you know what I appreciate your interest but I like it where I’m at and I don’t have any interest. So a lot of things haven’t become a big deal. I haven’t said let me go fly there and take a look. I’ve never done that. I’ve never really wanted to do that because I care about our recruiting class currently. If I know in my heart this is where I want to be then I don’t want to play a game for any reason. All I’m asking is for everything to be as fair as we can. I want to give Georgia my best, and I want Georgia to give us its best.”
On reflecting back to his playing days and the bowl game selection process being more open compared to now bowl games being more structured and which way he likes better…
“All I know is when I was a player we went to one bowl when I was at Miami. It was the Peach Bowl. That was a big deal. We froze our rear ends off. We got a Peach Bowl watch. I gave it to my dad. But I don’t know. I think one that I would be for – and I might get in trouble for this but I hope not – I think it would be interesting to rotate some of the BCS games. Where the SEC may go to the Sugar Bowl this year, go the Fiesta next year and whatever and have people do that. But there is such tradition in the SEC with the Sugar Bowl and the Pac-10 and Big Ten or 12 or whatever they are called now going to the Rose and all that kind of thing. I don’t know if that will ever happen, but I think that would be interesting for fans, players and coaches to have a different destination, a kind of built in rotating destination.”
If there are any concerns with the defense from the second half of the LSU game…
“A lot of the issues were special teams related and turnover related. There’s some times we just got gapped out on a run and it went to the house. I don’t think we left there with problems we can’t solve at all.”
GEORGIA PLAYERS
C Ben Jones:
S Bacarri Rambo
LB Christian Robinson:
CB Brandon Boykin
206 comments Add your comment
FLA DAWG
December 16th, 2011
6:49 pm
Rambo considering the NFL now!?
Way above his talent level. Maybe in a year.
Charles is a much stronger possibility for early departure to the NFL but he’d benefit from another year at UGA in my opinion. Of course I want Charles to stay to watch this guy play Great Dawg Ball next season so I’m a little biased.
7576DAWG
December 16th, 2011
6:57 pm
Jones is smart to stay one more year . A lot of scout’s still have their doubt’s if his neck thing is okay since there was a difference of opinion between Southern Cal doctor’s and the doctor’s at Georgia. If he can stand up physically one more year it will end any doubt’s and should make him at least a middle first round or higher draft choice. Already knowing the 3-4 won’t hurt either.
Law Dawg
December 16th, 2011
6:58 pm
Rambo is crazy to think he would be a Top Draft Pick. Someone needs to set these kids straight. Their egos are out of control. If he left early, he would be lucky if he got drafted at all. You don’t leave early unless you are a lock to be a First Round Draft Pick or you know you are going to fail out of school. I think Charles is worthy of thinking about leaving but he is no First Round Lock.
Ga
December 16th, 2011
7:01 pm
Jay rome isnt faster than OC. He.has a ways to go but he will be a good player if he in the weight room and gettin faster and better witj blocking
WOW....Now a Whopping 3-10 Against Ranked Teams
December 16th, 2011
7:04 pm
yeah….we beat the 10 teams we were SUPPOSED to beat, and all 3 games where the opponents were any good (including the absolute beatdowns by Boise and LSU)….and now what?
We’re 2012 national champs???
LOL….no so long as the “Great Underachiever” (Richt) is our head coach
falconfever74
December 16th, 2011
7:21 pm
wow! I cant believe anyone would say aaron murray is a joke. name another sec quarterback that is better(maybe wilson from arkansas). Look at his numbers and this is only his second season starting in the most dominant nfl ready conference, Might i add he did what he did this year with no proven weapons on the outside, once again wow!
kybodawg
December 16th, 2011
7:21 pm
as soon as richt signs his extension he needs to turn around and hand the pen to grantham
Smart like a fox
December 16th, 2011
7:22 pm
sure …go for it….after all you play for UGA…and their in the SEC !! that makes you a top 10 right there
DrDawg
December 16th, 2011
7:23 pm
Come on Rambo and Charles. Stay home and get us an NC. We can do it. Put off becoming a zillionaire for one more year and get that NC Ring! This is your last chance.
The OC
December 16th, 2011
7:45 pm
How many was Charles called for a holding penalty in critical situations? Hint, it was waaaay more than just one time. I say good riddence.
bitter mur-fee;s--law
December 16th, 2011
7:48 pm
why is HUDSON MASON—not starting??
bitter mur-fee;s--law
December 16th, 2011
7:50 pm
just saying —–MURRY—-cant beat good teams—–look who we lost too this year
big john 340 lbs
December 16th, 2011
7:50 pm
Orson is a team guy and always has been. I’ve thought all along that he would be a Dawg for 4 years.He’ll be back.
Rambo will want to come back to be a part of the defense that leads us to the SEC championship next year.
Mark my words!
bitter mur-fee;s--law
December 16th, 2011
7:54 pm
@falconforever74—–his stats are against weak teams—–lost games
——————1. boise st
——————-2. south carolina
——————-3. LSUUUUU
——————–4. MICH ST
—————————————-6 TD’S IN ONE GAME AGAINST NEW MEXICO ST—–PLEASE
CEPH
December 16th, 2011
7:58 pm
7576dawg Remember you said Richt doesn’t have a agent??? Did you read in the above article where he said teams had contacted his agents> There’s nothing like being on top of it is there!!!
Do you have any more little tidbits that you could share with us?
Wes
December 16th, 2011
7:59 pm
Murray is good against weak teams only. Like i said he hasn’t won a big game yet.
Music City Dawg
December 16th, 2011
8:44 pm
Hey Spanky – what’s your source about Hutson leaving UGA? If you’re going to start a rumor, quote your sources or be quiet!
B'dawg
December 16th, 2011
9:17 pm
I really hope Hutson stays. And I really hope that in the spring, they figure out that Murray isnt going to get us there(NC). I just dont think Murray is a SEC qb. He is a good qb, but he is just not an all SEC qb in my opinion. Sure he won some games, but he has cost us some games too. Maybe Im wrong, but thats what I saw this year. I
Technically Speaking
December 16th, 2011
9:21 pm
Ha! You never hear about Tech players leaving early. They know the value of an engineering degree far outweighs any job in the NFL.
Go Jackets! Buzz buzz…buzz buzz!!!
Rationale
December 16th, 2011
9:51 pm
Murray filing his paperwork? My word. They will laugh themselves silly when they see his paperwork. That says all about him that we need to know. No wonder he never got any better on his deep passes. He is way too overconfident in himself. I hope they bring his attitude back to earth and he will work on his very obvious shortcomings.
OkieDawg
December 16th, 2011
10:23 pm
@Technically Speaqking : Ha! You never hear about Tech players leaving early. They know the value of an engineering degree far outweighs any job in the NFL.
You are an IDIOT!!! Completely and Totally! … GEEZ
this dawg want hunt!!
December 16th, 2011
10:25 pm
Rambo and Murray are total idiots to think they can play in the NFL. Rambo has never impressed me, and he is terrible in run support. He hasn’t hit anyone since he got knocked out hitting the Auburn receiver in 2009. He want be missed if he decides to leave. The same can be said for missing in big games Murray. This guy is so overrated, and he always finds ways to help his team lose games. He averages 3 turnovers, either ints, or fumbles in every big game this past year. Good Q.B’s don’t do what this guy does in big games. He single handedly lost the S.C. game. As for Charles, he isnt big enough to block in the SEC as a t.e. Want miss him at all either, Jay Rome is bigger, and almost as fast. Good luck to the 3 most overrated players on the team. But if any of them think they are ready for the NFL, maybe we should call them the 3 stooges. Because that’s what they are. When you can’t beat a single team on your schedule that you weren’t favored to beat, and when you lay an egg against the 3 best teams you played, you arent leaders, and you certainly arent talented enought to play in the nfl. But, as a UGA fan, we can only hope that all 3 leave. Lemay and Mason are better than Murray right now, and Rome will be better than Charles in a year, and Moore will make all UGA fans forget about the most overrated safety in UGA history,
Joseph
December 16th, 2011
10:38 pm
To Rambo and Charles,
Your teammates need you. Come back to UGA next year and finish this off right! Win the National Championship, get your degrees and then turn pro. The pros will be there for you both. You both have the opportunity to do something great and continue to be a part of something truly great. It will be the thrill of your lives up to this point. In keeping with the speech in Braveheart, leave now and you will move on with your lives, but looking back at your lives years later as you are old and gray, will you then be willing to trade all those years for one chance, just one chance, to go back and win it all, for yourselves, your teammates, your friends, your coaches, your families, for Georgia! You both know the answer, Go Dawgs!
this dawg want hunt!!
December 16th, 2011
10:45 pm
Mich.st has a top 10 defense, can’t wait to see big game Murray lay another egg. Will bet anyone he will have at least 3 turnovers, and Bobo will get his lunch handed to him again. Will be the same ole, same ole, with Richt, Bobo, and Murray. UGA will never win a big game with these 3 clowns running the UGA offense. You would think McGarity was smart enough to realize that the 10 wins were against inferior competition, but haven’t been impressed with him either. UGA always gets the second best, whether it be in head coaches, asst. coaches, 5 star players, and now A.D. Florida has Foley, and UGA gets 2nd best in McGarity. This guy has done nothing to impress anyone other than schedule a beatdown with Boise St, and now he is about to put the UGA program another 5 or 6 years from ever reaching it’s full potential. If Richt hasn’t won a N.C. after 11 years, he never will. So it it obvious that UGA’s A.D. doesn’t have the same goals as the Florida A.D. Typical mediocre goals from the A.D. to the head coach to the fans at UGA.
kybodawg
December 16th, 2011
10:49 pm
why wouldnt mason leave. he is to good to sit behind murrary and face it the only way bobo gives a guy a chance is if somebody is hurt or suspended. look at the guys who filled in for ogletree, and dallas lee would not have played without gates being hurt. we play five guys on the line and wear them out. you develop depth by giving guys who practice good a chance. thats why playing conservative when we get up by 14 hurts. you dint let young guys get to play.
Bad Dawg
December 16th, 2011
10:53 pm
Aaron Murray is the next Joe Cox! LOL
@sportsguru95
December 16th, 2011
10:55 pm
Charles will benefit from another year, but if he decides 2 leave, he will be a 1st round pick! Teams took away Charles! He had a great year! Yes I agree it could have been a little better, but what r some of u expecting 1000 yards! Bobo called a good game vs LSU, if it weren’t for a few drops hos play calling would have scored 21 in a half! Dawgs will be a explosives team in 2012! Competition breeds Champions! Go Dawgs!!!
Bad Dawg
December 16th, 2011
11:03 pm
By the way this dawg want hunt!, Orson Charles is projected as a second-round pick and Rambo a third-round pick, according to Rob Rang, senior analyst for NFLDraftScout.com. Aaron Murray was told to stay in school as long as he can (just kidding or am I?)
drbasic
December 16th, 2011
11:05 pm
@ scorekeeper…..if you are giving 32 points, i have a paypal account…name the wager, can cover what ever you want
@ this dawg want hunt (wtf is that)…….same for you. i will gladly take your bet on the turnovers, put
your money where your mouth is.
Rationale
December 16th, 2011
11:10 pm
I’m glad to see that I am not the only one that sees Murray as being over rated.
Chris
December 16th, 2011
11:21 pm
i dont see why people are hating on murray??? how do yall know hutson mason is incredible. Yall r a bunch of idiots
BobDawg
December 16th, 2011
11:30 pm
I remember reading in an old SI issue where coaching staffs visit other programs ( out of conference) to study what that school is doing well in a particular area and the schools are extremely open about sharing info. I bet CMR & staff go on a road trip this winter for special teams
DDPO
December 16th, 2011
11:33 pm
They will both be great in the NFL. Neither one will be drafted lower than the 3rd round. Gotta go…
BobDawg
December 16th, 2011
11:33 pm
This is a good problem with better players in the program doing well with NFL options
Bad Dawg
December 16th, 2011
11:33 pm
Murray’s best game was one of his worst games. Against South Carolina he made plays to win the game and then he made plays to help South Carolina. The kid is too streaky too me. I grade him on the big games (LSU, Boise State, South Carolina, and you can throw in Florida because their defense is respectable). He aided in the loss to South Carolina and he padded his stats versus the weaker opponents. I’m not saying automatically demote Murray but why not open the quarterback competition since he was given the job his first year. Murray has shown that he is inconsistent and Hutson Mason might as well be given a chance to see what he can do too. The win loss column is the most important thing especially against quality opponents and he is not getting the job done if you ask me. You know why UGA fans love David Greene and D.J. Shockley? Because they were winners and got the job done in the big games. If Murray was winning the big games there would not be any questions about the young man whatsoever.
wde
December 16th, 2011
11:48 pm
Bad Dawg you could be a bigger fool but you will have to take graduate courses to get there.
Bad Dawg
December 17th, 2011
12:19 am
wde, You support a quarterback who in two years has put up pretty good stats versus poor teams but lacks the signature wins that all great qb’s have. I did not say he was the worst qb ever but I think UGA could do better at the quarterback position. If you do not think so go back and watch Murray’s games against better defenses and big games. Quit being so emotional and face reality.
Chris
December 17th, 2011
12:32 am
Bad dawg you said uga liked greene and shockley because they won
possible 11 win season thats pretty good to me. Murray is not the problem. Its special team inconsitenty, o line depth, and running back depth
Aaron Murray is not all america ? What a hose job. Absolutely the Best QB in the nation, Heisman Trophy, National Championship just wait 'til next year !
December 17th, 2011
12:38 am
Aaron Murray, a redshirt sophomore, said he submitted his name to the NFL Draft NCAA College Advisory Committee because he was curious to see what they said. “It’s just cool. At the end of the day, it’s nice to see what they say…and maybe motivation to help you work hard in the offseason if that is your ultimate goal to get to the NFL.” The College Advisory Committee provides feedback in public for all to see and read on where they could be drafted.
Here is what they will tell him. Undrafted, no round. Not just because he has only been here now at Georgia starting now 17 December 2011, his 4th season on our campus – having started practicing with Mike Bobo and Mark Richt in preparation for the 2008 Bowl Game vs Michigan State. 2009, of course, he was redshirted – not because we had a great QB ahead of him, but despite the fact that vs Okie State in Game 1 of 2009, it was Painfully obvious to everyone that Zach Mettenberger just had to get on the field that day in which we Lost to a team who did not even finish up the 2009 season in the AP Poll Top 25. Joe Cox, you recall had the flu bad, and of course, he also had the chronic throwing shoulder which kept him out of practices every single week he was ever on our campus.
Aaron Murray is not all america ? What a hose job. Absolutely the Best QB in the nation, Heisman Trophy, National Championship just wait 'til next year !
December 17th, 2011
12:40 am
2010, this is where it became obvious to the NFL and to the NCAA College Advisory Board, that this guy was never going to be drafted in any NFL Draft, ever. He was billed as a dual-threat quarterback, instead vs SEC defensive linemen, we witnessed in horror that (1) he cannot run (2) he cannot hold on to the football when does try to run (3) he is too small to play vs SEC defensive linemen (4) he is way too slow at 4.7 in the 40-yard dash to outrun 300 lbs. SEC Defensive Linemen who are FASTER than he is.
Dual-threat out of the way, with his now since 2008 on our campus practicing for the Michigan State Bowl Game 2008 with the team, everyone turned to study Aaron Murray in all his Glory for all these years now in the Big Games against the teams the NFL and College Advisory Board see as teams who ended up these years in the Top 25 a Quarterback billed as the Best QB in The Best College Football League
Bad Dawg
December 17th, 2011
1:08 am
wde, They won SEC championships sir. I am not blaming the teams woes on Murray. I am specifically talking about the quarterback play. There is enough blame to go around with the coaching. Are you seriously mentioning those 10 wins over teams who UGA should have beaten ? I guess you have not woke up since the humiliation in the SECCG. Murray completed 40 percent of his passed in that game and had key turnovers that lead to easy LSU points. That same performance in the South Carolina game with better passing statistics is why the fans are down on him. I am not the only one either check the other blogs and see what they have to say about Murray. I think it is the consensus that dawg nation is not sold on him. I am for an open quarterback competition and I think everyone else should be. Christian Lemay and Hutson Mason should be given a fair chance to show what they can do. If they are no better than Murray then so be it he is our starter.
Chris
December 17th, 2011
1:12 am
ok vs lsu he was going vs the best defense in the country and one of the best in the last 20 years. He had ABSOlUTELY NO RUNNING GAME
Chris
December 17th, 2011
1:14 am
he had no blocking the second half, and our receivers dropped two touchdowns. Murray actually played solid that game. He will continue to limit his turnovers and improve his accuracy. Murray will be competing for the heisman trophy his senior season
Bad Dawg
December 17th, 2011
1:34 am
Sorry Chris you have just dishonored the dawg nation. Murray for Heisman, Are you kidding me? Heisman winners have to be on a team of national championship caliber. If Andrew Luck did not win the Heisman what makes you think Murray will even be considered. I bet he won’t even be first team All SEC. Sorry you gotta put down that kool-aid. Its embarrassing as future UGA alumni to see fans in such a delusional state. Give me some facts on why you think the statement you just made makes any sense.
William
December 17th, 2011
3:44 am
1. It’s this dog won’t hunt, not want hunt.
2. Charles is crazy to stay, money is too good to turn down.
3. Rambo is crazy to stay, money is too good to turn down.
4. Murray is an average QB, nobody said otherwise, but he’s the best we have.
5. Bobo is an average OC, nobody said otherwise, but he’s the best we have.
Just Me
December 17th, 2011
4:43 am
Orsen Charles is a sure 2-3 round projection
Aaron Murray’s height doesn’t fit the NFL mold (thank goodness) so he’s a 5-6 round projection (but I think he will be a very good pro one day despite this).
Baccari Rambo will project high (2-3 rounder in my opinion) and should take the money and run. His name is more marketable than he is as a player (IE 1st team All-American). He’s a special teamer at the next level at best.
Observer
December 17th, 2011
4:52 am
Love the way dawg bloggers dog cuss their players all year long and then suck up to them in December on these boards hoping to influence them into staying as they threaten to jump to the NFL (IE Stafford, Moreno, AJ Green, Rambo). Like what you type matters at all. Hahahahahaha. You will do the same when Crowell becomes elligible, wait and see!
EX GEORGIA FAN
December 17th, 2011
5:04 am
Georgia beats Michigan State by 10 in the Outback Bowl and Bobo is way better than most Georgia bloggers give him credit for. His play calling in the first half of the SEC Championship game was the same as his play calling in the second half. He can not control the execution or the physical domination of the other team! Just the game plan and the percentages of play calling. And he can also recruit QB’s better than any coach in the SEC or country. You idiots are darn lucky to have him, but true to form, Georgia fans would complain with a 12 inch one in their mouths!
EX GEORGIA FAN
December 17th, 2011
5:10 am
Georgia was embarrased by what proved to be a number 15 Boise team and two months later went toe to toe with a number 35 Vandy team. Then, a month later went toe to toe for a half with the number one team in the NATION. How in the world can a Georgia fan in their right mind criticize Georgia ANY Georgia coach? Especially with the number 4 defense in the nation after the number 40 defense with Martinez. You idiots are sounding like Tech fans more and more!
EX GEORGIA FAN
December 17th, 2011
5:12 am
Give Bobo the talent and depth of LSU and Alabama and he will be the best play caller in the NCAA!