Georgia QB Aaron Murray in line for All-SEC honors as sophomore
Aaron Murray has passed for 14 TDs and 2 interceptions in Georgia's last four games. (UGA photo by Elizabeth Wilson)
ATHENS — Greetings everyone. Sitting here waiting for Georgia to take Woodruff Practice Fields for another SEC Championship workout. I’m working today on story about Bulldogs quarterback Aaron Murray.
I’ve been taking a look at some of the best UGA quarterbacks of the past and some of the best quarterbacks from around the nation this season to try to get an idea of where Murray might stack up. A consensus preseason All-SEC selection, Murray appears to be the most likely choice for postseason All-SEC quarterback. If so, that’s quite an accomplishment for any quarterback in this league but especially for a sophomore.
I asked Mike Bobo, Georgia’s offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach (and a former UGA quarterbaback himself), where he thought Murray might stack up since he’s been around.
“I still think he’s so young,” Bobo said. “He has a tremendously high ceiling still because there’s a lot that we can improve on each week. He’s still performing at a high level. As far as guys I’ve had here, I don’t want to rank them but I will say he prepares harder than anybody I’ve ever had, hands down. I think that’s why he’s had a lot of success and I think he’ll continue to do that. Where he ranks, where everybody thinks of him as a quarterback here or in the SEC or nationally, that’s yet to be determined. He still has two more years after this year.”
I’ll just share with you some of lists I’m working with. You tell me about the job you think Murray has done, how you think he’ll do against LSU’s daunting defense and maybe where you believe he might stack up this year and in UGA history.
UGA’S TOP 10 SEASONS
Note: There were a couple of seasons where a particular quarterback may have had more yards. But I picked seasons where the TD-to-interception ratio was impressive as well. These are not ranked. They’re listed chronologically. . . .
Year–Player———–Yards—TDs—INTs
2011–Aaron Murray—-2,698—32—10
2010–Aaron Murray—-3,049—24—-8
2009–Joe Cox———–2,584—24—15
2008–Matt Stafford—–3,459—25—10
2005–D.J. Shockley—–2,588—24—5
2004–David Greene—–2,508—20—4
2002–David Greene—–2,924—22—8
1999–Quincy Carter—–2,713—17—6
1997–Mike Bobo———2,751—19—8
1993–Eric Zeier———-3,525—24—15
FIVE OF NATION’S BEST 2011
Player, school, year—- Comp. %–Yards–TDs–INTs
Russell Wilson, Wisconsin, Sr. —72.7–2,692–28–3
Robert Griffin, Baylor, Jr.——-72.6–3,678–34–5
Case Keenum, Houston, Sr.—–73.2–4,726–42–3
Kellen Moore, Boise St., Sr.—–73.1–3,194–38–7
Andrew Luck, Stanford, Sr.—–69.9–3,170–35–9
SEC’S BEST in 2011
Aaron Murray, Georgia, So.—–61.0–2,698–32–10
Tyler Wilson, Arkansas, Jr.—–63.1–3,422–22–6
A.J. McCarron, Alabama, So.—-66.7–2,400–16–5
Jarrett Lee, LSU, Sr.————64.6–1,306–14–3
Connor Shaw, S. Carolina, So.—-65.5–1,218–12–6
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Paul Johnson isn't building anything
November 30th, 2011
3:58 pm
Aaron Murray 0-7 vs all teams finishing top 25 all years he has been here.
run up my stats vs teams not 1 of which is ranked in any poll
November 30th, 2011
4:00 pm
Lose every game to every team who ends up Top 25.
That makes me what ?
The best quarterback ?
Says who ?
Bitterness stings
November 30th, 2011
4:07 pm
The first (two) posters…..What a BITTER Tech fan who stalks this blog in hopes of a chance to spew his drivel
Bitterness= Aaron Murray lighting up Tech’s defense for 7 TDs in only 2 career COFH games.
62-39-5….. and growing!!
GO DAWGS!!!!
Get Your Facts Straight
November 30th, 2011
4:07 pm
Georgia has faced four teams this year that were ranked at the time: Boise State, South Carolina, Auburn, and Tech. In those four games, Murray has a 14-3 TD/INT ratio. Which means that hes doing a good job against quality teams as well. Get your facts straight.
bitter QB
November 30th, 2011
4:09 pm
its all about how you finish————- from plant city to the big stage——–just saying
BigDawg
November 30th, 2011
4:11 pm
GT, envy and jealousy rule you just like UGA! Nice stadium and safe campus you have there. NOT! Go join your tickle pile!
GTBob
November 30th, 2011
4:14 pm
Murray appears to be the most likely choice for postseason All-SEC quarterback.
Of course he is. The SEC isn’t exactly a strong QB conference right now.
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
4:16 pm
Aaron is doing great and everybody knows that. Not only that, but our protection has been weak at times this year. If you protect Murray, he can pick any D apart. The great thing is that our receivers are all back next year, except White, so we are loaded for bear. If our O line can protect him Saturday, then I expect a lot of points for UGA. If not, it may be tough. I sure hope we have some schemes in place to get him away from the big LSU rush…Go Dawgs.
bitter kirk herb street
November 30th, 2011
4:17 pm
at espn we dont show love to UGA——only the ohio st—–cars planes and trains——the best
————————for our gangsters—–aka—–cryer meyer
ARdawg
November 30th, 2011
4:18 pm
“Of course he is. The SEC isn’t exactly a strong QB conference right now.”
GTBob
Wahhhhh Wahhhhh Wahhhhh And STILL better than the AllCupcakeConference
Army Strong
November 30th, 2011
4:18 pm
I’ll take a 10-2 QB any way you slice the stats
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
4:20 pm
Bob, one would think you would have developed some respect considering the spanking Murray put on your boys on Saturday. We were so far down the depth chart at TB that it was the freshman player’s first start at UGA. So sitting on our passing game, Murray gashed you with four TDs, and now you hate and boast away…hard to follow is a charitable description.
dawgfan
November 30th, 2011
4:21 pm
GTBob, everyone can’t have a rocket-armed talent like Tevin Washington on their squad. LMAO!!
Georgia Tech=JOKE today, JOKE tomorrow, JOKE forever.
You are dismissed.
george
November 30th, 2011
4:22 pm
i like murray,but i would pick wilson from arkansas as the conference qb. murray sure has a great future though.
Seriously
November 30th, 2011
4:23 pm
bitter QB – its all about how you finish————- from plant city to the big stage——–just saying
Murray is from Plant HS in Tampa, not Plant City- clueless
dkg
November 30th, 2011
4:25 pm
The verdict is still out on Murray. I think that he eventually will become a great quarterback. Do I believe he should be an all sec qb quaterback? Yes. God knows what he would be doing if he were in the ACC with their weak defenses. I would also like to see Abry Jones, Jarvis Jones, A. Olgtree, Boykin and smith make all sec honors for the work they have done on our defense.
Bad Dawg
November 30th, 2011
4:25 pm
In five seasons when Mark Richt played a quarterback starting for the first time, Georgia went 41-23 (.640), with one 10-win season. That would have been senior D.J. Shockley, who played regularly in previous years behind David Greene, leading the Dawgs to a 10-3 record and the SEC title. In the six seasons in which Richt has had a returning starter at quarterback, the Dawgs are 65-13 (.833) with one SEC title and four SEC East championships.
UGA Alumnus
November 30th, 2011
4:26 pm
Go Dawgs!
better than a lot
November 30th, 2011
4:28 pm
Each on of those top 5 Qb’s in the nation play is SISSY conferences. Murray plays a man’s game in toughest conference. He should get it just for being a starter in the SEC
UGA Alumnus
November 30th, 2011
4:28 pm
I’m still campaigning…
Let’s end the generic internet tradition of posting “First” on these blogs and replace it with
a real Bulldog tradition of posting, “Go Dawgs!”
Let’s start this tradition! And join me in the campaign!
Go Dawgs!!!
Pigskin History
November 30th, 2011
4:28 pm
Murray is solid at third place in the SEC this year. He’s the best QB in the East Division.
Top Row Dog
November 30th, 2011
4:30 pm
Well AM has beaten two ranked teams in last 3 games and MSU plus UF were ranked at one time this year. Fact is he has beaten 6 bowl bound teams.
The streak lives CMR always wins 10 games with a returning QB.
Born2Bark
November 30th, 2011
4:32 pm
Murray does a great job when he is well protected. Last year and the early part of this year he was on his back a lot or not comfortable in the pocket. Notice the games he has when he has a little time.
Junior Samples
November 30th, 2011
4:33 pm
techsters are saying uga played a mediocre schedule ….and leading the pack of all the medocrity is ga tech. while your coach was out frying fish uga was putting his foot on your neck.
Pigskin History
November 30th, 2011
4:33 pm
He looked pretty good against NMSU.
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
4:34 pm
I think it is safe to say that his performance Saturday will be a key factor. If he has a great day and wins, he is probably the undisputed leader. If he has a great day and loses, then we’ll see. If he has a terrible day, he could lose some luster.
GTBob
November 30th, 2011
4:35 pm
Honestly, who is Murray’s competition? Aside from Aaron Rodgers little brother I have trouble remembering who the other SEC QB’s even are.
Cmon man
November 30th, 2011
4:46 pm
@gt bob how can any tech fan honestly speak on qbs? Washington completed more passes to uga than he did to tech. And lets not forget tech started reggie ball for 4 yrs. Speaking on qbs is foreign territory for tech fans you should stick to talking about sat scores or campus robberies.
Bad Dawg
November 30th, 2011
4:48 pm
I would relatively agree with GT Bob. It appears as if the SEC has only the 3rd best quarterback conference behind the Pac-12 and Big 12 but besides Arkansas and Tennessee (when they had Tyler Bray starting and Justin Hunter healthy) most teams in the SEC are more balanced or run heavy. So it is still yet to be seen how good the qb’s are not to mention the east being down this year. According to the stats:
rank att comp pct yds yds per att long td int sack qbr
114 Morgan Newton, QB UK 174 83 47.7 793 4.6 46 8 7 18 93.1
88 Jordan Rodgers, QB VAN 202 104 51.5 1498 7.4 73 9 9 10 119.6
86 Chris Relf, QB MSST 171 102 59.6 1083 6.3 44 9 7 11 122.0
43 John Brantley, QB FLA 224 132 58.9 1912 8.5 83 10 6 13 140.0
37 Connor Shaw, QB SCAR 171 112 65.5 1218 7.1 55 12 6 19 141.5
30 Tyler Bray, QB TENN 247 147 59.5 1983 8.0 81 17 6 11 144.8
25 Tyler Wilson, QB ARK 407 257 63.1 3422 8.4 68 22 6 23 148.7
23 AJ McCarron, QB ALA 294 196 66.7 2400 8.2 69 16 5 11 149.8
14 Aaron Murray, QB UGA 331 202 61.0 2698 8.2 75 32 10 24 155.4
*per 14 passing attempts in each game listed from the best to the worst
Statistically Murray has the best qbr but all things considered it is misleading as well as other stats
He has gotten better though and one of the best qb’s in the sec in my opinion
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
4:52 pm
BadDawg, part of the problem is the level of play in which they compete. Four of the top five Ds, and five of the top ten, are SEC. It is a tough place to play offense.
bruce mac
November 30th, 2011
4:54 pm
So, GTBob how do you think it is going to work out next year when he is a junior and the game is in Athens. Sorry man, the futre of UGA is bright and your school, OH WELL??? At least you can lead the ACC in rushing and go to some obscure bowl game and lose as usual.
Pigskin History
November 30th, 2011
4:55 pm
@CHDawg
Good point. In addition, a ball control style of offense with a strong running game does not enhance a good quarterback’s statistics.
sammiamm
November 30th, 2011
4:57 pm
He looked GREAT against Tech. And he will again in 2012, and 2013.
We have that, at minimum, to look forward to.
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
4:58 pm
True, Pigskin. That is one reason why Bama’s QBs don’t jump out at you. When you have Ingram and Richardson, who needs a QB? Humor intended…
Bad Dawg
November 30th, 2011
4:59 pm
Come on now GTBob do not be so oblivious I am trying to be reasonable with you. To say the SEC has no qb’s is a little ignorant all things considered not to mention the SEC recruits the best qb’s. Auburn has Kiehl Frazier who does not start yet but was highly recruited, Aaron Murray was the #3 qb coming out of high school as well as guys like Hutson Mason and Christian Lemay waiting in the wings. Alabama has A.J. McCarron who was one of the top 10 qb’s when he came out as well as the highly touted Phillip Sims. Florida’s John Brantley also highly touted along with Jeff Driskell and Jacoby Brissett. Tennesse’s Tyler Bray one of the top Qb’s coming out of California etc. etc.
There is no shortage of talent my friend but SEC offenses are not exactly built to be high powered passing attacks except for Arkansas and maybe Tennessee. I am sure if they played in the Big 12 where they pass 60% of the time and choose whether or not they want to play defense there numbers would be inflated as well.
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
5:01 pm
On the what if front…what if we hadn’t lost Harmon and Sturdivant this year? We could have kept Glenn and Anderson at guard and I think we would be undefeated with a top ten offense, in addition to our top ten D. We have done pretty well as it is. Should’a, could’a, would’a, but it hurts to think about it. Maybe seasoning the young guards makes us that much better next year?
Bad Dawg
November 30th, 2011
5:03 pm
Good point CHDawg how could I forget about those nasty SEC defenses. Thanks for helping my argument though.
What do you think GTBob?
kevin
November 30th, 2011
5:03 pm
I see that GTBob is back on the interwebs gracing us with his idiocy again.
ARdawg
November 30th, 2011
5:07 pm
Reasonable with Bob? Preposterous. Bob is only about bending, twisting and manipulation of facts. This is the same Bob declaring the 6-0 GT nerds were headed to the BCS *reminding*
FAN
November 30th, 2011
5:07 pm
what happen to LSU QB last two years of stats nothing change still the same JEFFERSON
TampaDawg
November 30th, 2011
5:09 pm
Paul Johnson isn’t building anything
November 30th, 2011
3:58 pm
Aaron Murray 0-7 vs all teams finishing top 25 all years he has been here.
———————————–
But shockingly he has been there without a red shirt for less than 2 years.
And the “finished in the top 25″ is kind of deceiving. But let’s analyze how we got here, shall we.
First, it was Aaron Murray has never beaten a team with a winning record. Beat the Gators, and they had a winning record at the time.
Second, it was Aaron Murray has never beaten a ranked team. Beat Auburn when they were ranked in the BCS.
Third, it was Aaron Murray can’t beat a decent team without a running game. Hard to say, but Tech at least ranks as a decent team and it’s easy to say, we had no running game for that one.
Now it’s Aaron Murray has never beaten a team that finished in the top 25 in ALL his years. Well, considering this year isn’t over, it’s still a possibility and a good one at that with a bowl win or, Heaven forbid, a SECCG win. In all his years? that’s funny stuff right there.
GTBob
November 30th, 2011
5:10 pm
Bad Dawg, I have no doubt that there are guys in the SEC who were highly recruited. It doesn’t mean they are doing much now. Go take a look at the national passing statistics. There are no SEC quarterbacks near the top of any category. You may be right, the run heavy mindset of the SEC probably influences that but you would think someone from the SEC would emerge as a big time college QB on a national level.
TampaDawg
November 30th, 2011
5:11 pm
GTBob
November 30th, 2011
4:35 pm
Honestly, who is Murray’s competition? Aside from Aaron Rodgers little brother I have trouble remembering who the other SEC QB’s even are.
———————–
From a guy who’s favorite team plays in the ACC, that’s pretty funny. Well, if we are talking good QBs you can leave Tevin Washington out of it.
Bad Dawg
November 30th, 2011
5:12 pm
Give GTBob a chance kevin although he is a tech fan. I respect his presence because it keeps me from “drinking the kool-aid” if you will. If everyone on this blog agreed then it would be no fun. I welcome the “trolls”, haters, techies, etc…
TampaDawg
November 30th, 2011
5:13 pm
At number 7 in the nation in one VERY important statistic is Aaron Murray with 32 Touchdowns!
GTBob
November 30th, 2011
5:13 pm
ARdawg, I am still waiting for you to find the blog where I said GT was going to the BCS title game. You can easily make me disappear forever if you find it.
GTBob
November 30th, 2011
5:14 pm
Well, if we are talking good QBs you can leave Tevin Washington out of it.
This I agree with. If Tevin is QB next year then I might take the season off.
BILLY JACK
November 30th, 2011
5:14 pm
More all sec players than just Murray Georgia will place Boykin cb kr JJones LB B Jones C CGlenn T DButler P OCharles TE posibility of Rambo 2nd team and MMitchell offensive player of the year.
Pigskin History
November 30th, 2011
5:15 pm
“you would think someone from the SEC would emerge as a big time college QB on a national level”
Ckeck out a Monday Night game now and then. Plenty of decent SEC QB’s playing in The League.
BILLY JACK
November 30th, 2011
5:15 pm
I meant Mitchell off freshmen of the year.
TampaDawg
November 30th, 2011
5:17 pm
LOL GT Bob, I don’t think you have to worry about that. Days will lock that up I think. Please don’t take this the wrong way though, but with that offense, it’s hard to imagine it helps out much. That being said, if they try to evolve, Days is lights out better than Tevin.
JAWJeRDAWG
November 30th, 2011
5:17 pm
@ Paul Johnson isn’t building anything.
If out O line blocks for him, Aaron Murray’s good enough to beat LSU!
JDawg1785
November 30th, 2011
5:20 pm
Not only is Murray a stellar quarterback, he seems to elevate the level of play of those around him as well. We’re lucky to have a guy like him leading this offense.
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
5:22 pm
ESPN has a great article on Murray on the college football front page. Sums it up very well. Murray points out that it isn’t about the stats, but about championship wins. I think about how Tebow willed the Gators over Oklahoma when they won the NC, and I have to agree that is the difference between great and the very best. The ability to rise to the occasion, and find a way to win these kind of games makes legends. The article also does a good job of highlighting just how good LSU’s D is, particularly the secondary. Nice phrase, LSU’s secondary is a track team in football uniforms. They didn’t have their best player and they held a very powerful Ark passing attack to just over 200 yds. Worth the read.
kevin
November 30th, 2011
5:22 pm
GT Bob,
The SEC boasts the best defensive conference in the country which accounts for lower QB stats–at least in part. If they played in the Big 12, ACC or some other conference with pathetic defenses, you might have a point. Furthermore, I loved how loved to call it the “SEC LEAST”–that was particularly funny with the East wiped the floor with the likes of Vandy vs. Wake, SC vs. Clemson and UGA vs. GT all on the same day. At least your FSU team beat the Gators. Seriously man, have you ever heard the phrase, “don’t throw stones in glass houses”. Evidently not, since you continue talk trash about teams far better than yours. Have fun licking your own nuts!
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
5:25 pm
Tampa, I think the thing people miss is that it is very, very hard to shut GT down on the ground. They don’t really need Washington to throw except in that rare situation of when they get behind and can’t light the pinball machine on the ground. Just doesn’t happen much. Tech is a good team, and that is mostly because of their awesome running offense.
DawginLex
November 30th, 2011
5:26 pm
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david
November 30th, 2011
5:32 pm
gtboob– ever heard of Cam Newton?
UVA
November 30th, 2011
5:32 pm
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
5:25 pm
“Tampa, I think the thing people miss is that it is very, very hard to shut GT down on the ground.”
Ya think so? Really?
GTBob
November 30th, 2011
5:33 pm
That being said, if they try to evolve, Days is lights out better than Tevin.
I think most Tech fans will be disappointed if Vad Lee is not the QB next season. Days will probably end up moving to another position like Sims did.
Miami
November 30th, 2011
5:34 pm
We didn’t have much of a problem with that. Especially considering the fact that we have a lousy ACC defense.
Bad Dawg
November 30th, 2011
5:34 pm
True GTBob, with the departure of Cam Newton and Ryan Mallett to the NFL the SEC certainly does not have that Heisman trophy candidate or Danny Obrien award winner but I honestly can not see teams changing to a pass heavy attack as it is taxing on your defense for your offense to score quickly (see Oregon and Arkansas). Not to mention Knile Davis (SEC’s leading rusher last year), Michael Dyer, Trent Richardson, Marcus Lattimore at RB (All future 1st round picks at RB) you might as well ride them until the wheels fall off. Also the SEC’s offensive coordinator are more old school in their approach to their gameplan it seems. Play great defense, emphasize fundamentals, win the turnover battle, establish the running game, sound special teams play, and wear your opponent out. This is how LSU and Alabama can score 40 plus point without the most high powered offenses.
ARdawg
November 30th, 2011
5:36 pm
GT Bob
I know you said it, you know you said it and that is enough for me. Sorry guy, I’m old but, I’m not too old to remember
NewnanDawg
November 30th, 2011
5:40 pm
Ahem, to everybody who’s saying that Aaron Murray isn’t all that great, if you look at the stats you’ll see that he has merely 3 less TD’s than Andrew Luck and only 1 more INT on the season and Luck is supposed to be the next first overall pick in the NFL draft. Aaron Murray is a SOPHOMORE. If he people try to say he isn’t a good quarterback after that, then they’re still sore after he lit up the Auburn/Georgia Tech defense.
run up my stats vs teams not 1 of which is ranked in any poll
November 30th, 2011
5:40 pm
My point has ALWAYS been the same.
Mark Richt has won 3 games vs teams who finished in the top 10 all 11 years. Les Miles has won 9 vs teams who finished in the top 10 his 7 seasons, and he has another game against such a team to reach possibly 10 in 7 years.
Mark Richt has also had 17 unexplainable losses to teams, none of the 17 of whom would have ended up top 25 had they not beat him his 11 years, and of those 17, 10 still did not end up in the top 25 even after they beat him.
Aaron Murray consistently inconsistent, went 0-5 last season vs teams who ended up in the top 25. He only played 2 this year and sits at 0-2 who end this season in the top 25. Clearly, he is fixing to be 0-3, making him 0-8 vs teams who end the season in the top 25 in his two seasons to-date. He plays in a run conference and has a pass-happy offense. He is deplorable as a runner, and yet nothing there in Chip’s stats to discuss how collegiate quarterbacks do in items such as fumbles, average rush yards and number of carries stolen from the running backs.
I played defensive back. I would prefer to play against Aaron Murray. The reason ? He loses if the game is a game everyone knows is against a team who will end up top 25. If you thought Auburn was going to end the season in the top 25, you lied about what you said about Auburn all season long and all Summer. I was here. Auburn is no good is what you said, repeatedly, and only. Georgia tek, the same. Still today, it is all you can do to talk about Georgia tek only, and how sorry they are.
Excuse me. He has a game vs LSU coming. He plays QB. Let’s judge his game Saturday if you like. Then, see what podunk college we get in what podunk bowl game again this year, like some team who lost to Northwestern a 6-6 squad.
Or, we can take your word for it, that the best wins he has in his career came in the last 2 games vs Auburn and Georgia tek NEITHER OF WHOM ARE RANKED BY ANYONE TODAY – the day you write about them now trying to weasel your way to saying they are great. If they are great, why are they not ranked ? Why will they not be ranked this season when it is over ?
David Greene was great you told me because he won the games as the starting quarterback. Like the wins were all his. Aaron Murray you have a completely different set of stats you want to discuss.
All the while, I am quite consistent.
How did you do against the teams who ended up top 10 ?
How did you do against the teams who ended up top 25 ?
Lose any games to any team who would not have been even top 25 without their win over us ? In other words, if they ended up # 23 with a win over us, they are NOT top 25 without the win. 17 of those in Mark Richt’s 11 years. And, Mark Richt has played Aaron Murray every play of every game.
The jury is not out on Aaron Murray. He has not gotten the job done. If he starts getting the job done, wake me up.
If Aaron Murray were really any good as a Quarterback, since he has been here since the Michigan State Bowl Game practices in 2008, he would be on the NFL Draft Board right now today, and they would be talking about him with the other names you see above by Chip Towers nationally.
Instead, we have 2 more years after this season to watch him play. Last year he was our best player and there was not a 2nd best player. This year, he has overthrown and thrown behind and continued to fumble and throw interceptions and get sacked and run the ball 1 yard per carry, and squeak by horrid opponents, while continuing his trend of having not beat yet a single team who ended up in the top 25.
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
5:45 pm
UVA, I guess your sarcasm indicates you don’t think GT’s running game is that good? UGA stopped them and may have made it look easy to a novice like yourself, but UGA is a top five D UVA. The relatively weak ACC probably makes that a truer statement. At any rate, the point is that passing skills are a pretty low priority compared to ball handling and running skills at Tech. How’s that, sweetie?
Been Around
November 30th, 2011
5:47 pm
I’ve been on these blogs all season long and most of what I’ve heard from the Dawg fans is that Murray is too short, too inconsistent and that they’d really like to see the backup play.
Now that he’s “winning” the LSU game, he’s suddenly everybody’s hero. What happens if he stops “winning” next Saturday?
Dalton Dawg
November 30th, 2011
5:50 pm
Hey GT BOB!
I heard through the grapevine that Vad Lee is seriously considering tranferring. Whats your take on this and since your so knowledgeable on GT give me your view?
UVA
November 30th, 2011
5:50 pm
My only point, CHA CHA DAWG, is that the University of Virginia certainly had no problem stopping the Tech running game. Neither did Miami. Maybe your #5 SEC Defense ain’t quite all that it’s cracked up to be?
kral
November 30th, 2011
6:00 pm
VA did you stop vt
kral
November 30th, 2011
6:02 pm
one game here one game there….best we have done yet..shut down AU…hard time with VANDY ask WF
UVA
November 30th, 2011
6:07 pm
We are an historic institution of academia, but we don’t have a great football program. My only point was that GA Tech doesn’t either.
kb
November 30th, 2011
6:08 pm
Is this a football or a Lacrosse blog, why would anyone from UVA be involved in a football discussion.?
bethlehemdawg
November 30th, 2011
6:09 pm
if Murray is so bad, why are his splits against ap ranked team as good or better than any other category
kral
November 30th, 2011
6:12 pm
can’t argue there…but GT and VA have some sports history to be proud of…but as a academia remember a small sample can lead to a bad diagnosis
Orange11
November 30th, 2011
6:15 pm
“Georgia QB Aaron Murray in line for All-SEC honors as sophomore”
Quit drinking the Koolaid. I haven’t seen him single handedly win a game yet but I have seen him single handedly lose a few.
kral
November 30th, 2011
6:15 pm
enjoyed your win against fsu…thought you endured
UVA
November 30th, 2011
6:15 pm
I’m just reading this blog until Squidbillies comes on. I love me some Appalachian folk humor. Hard to beat Georgia football for that!
Bad Dawg
November 30th, 2011
6:17 pm
Orangle11 I would like to ask who do you think is the best qb in the SEC. I am not exactly sold on Murray either as an elite qb but I am hard pressed to find any others to put into a conversation except Tyler Wilson.
Say Whut
November 30th, 2011
6:23 pm
Aaron Murray is the All-SEC QB. One reason the numbers get gaudier every year is the numbers– as in the number of games played. 13, 14 a year helps.
Orange11
November 30th, 2011
6:24 pm
Jefferson, Shaw, McCarron
kral
November 30th, 2011
6:30 pm
sguidbillies..you mean..academia or condescending and arrogant
Mad Dog One
November 30th, 2011
6:31 pm
gt bob how many acc qb’s were in the top five? Murray could be in that company but isn’t yet. Just for sh@#’s and giggles how many qb’s has turkey neck sent to the nfl that play’s gb? Hope UGA jives LSU their best game if so we have a chaace to wil. Main thing is you have to make it to the game to win the game. Whether we have beaten any team that the DA with way to many words in his name to enter WE ARE PLAYING FOR THE SEC TITLE so STFU. As always GO DOGS &GATA.
Mad Dog One
November 30th, 2011
6:32 pm
Should have been QB.
UVA
November 30th, 2011
6:32 pm
Ahem… We invented arrogance. For us, it is an art form.
SEC_Fan
November 30th, 2011
6:34 pm
A.J. McCarron is the most underrated quarterback in CFB this year. All he does is win games. Boring…
kral
November 30th, 2011
6:35 pm
gosh knows i put a Q for a G ..dang but…no buttes…unless uva looks in the mirror…you AMurray’s qualify even more..
kral
November 30th, 2011
6:40 pm
that makes you proud va …live it
kral
November 30th, 2011
6:59 pm
run up my blog…5:40 WAY to long…can I argue with what you said..no ..was it impressive…no…think about it…COME ON MAN….where would we be without him…1 of about 45-50 that play in a game…you probably believe in the bcs…toothfairy.. santa claus
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
7:05 pm
UVA, why not just say what you mean in the first place? The esoteric and sarcastic responses will produce a similar reply. Looking at the season’s stats, Virginia has a good run defense at number 36 out of 120, so it doesn’t surprise me that they held Tech to under 300 on the ground.
kral
November 30th, 2011
7:10 pm
think about it..Fla…Aub…and other colleges recruit some of the best hs players around them..and nation wide,,,nobody beats a slouch…some are better than others …but on a given night anything can happen…go DAWGS
Joshua
November 30th, 2011
7:11 pm
@ SEC_Fan”A.J. McCarron is the most underrated quarterback in CFB this year. All he does is win games.”- correction all A.J. McCarron does manage the game and hands the ball off left or right to Trent Richardson. He has thrown 16 TDs all year long….Aaron Murray threw 16 TDs in all in the span of one month. McCarron is the Buck Belue of Alabama.
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
7:14 pm
One more point UVA: I watched both UGA/Auburn, and Bama/Auburn and we beat them a lot more soundly than Bama did. That one comparison doesn’t mean Georgia is better than Alabama, though. Auburn could have been flat in Athens, and sharper at home. Bama is their big rival, so they may have played them better. Tech played UVA in your stadium, and they played us at home. Tech hates UGA and buys their players expensive jewelry when they beat us. You are a player for Tech, and you are thinking about the bling CPJ is going to buy you if you beat UGA, who do you play harder?
Joshua
November 30th, 2011
7:20 pm
Mark my word….Aaron Murray will start the season next year as 2012 Heisman Contender. He will finish with 3,200 yds 35 TDs. Sam Bradford finished his 2007 season before winning the Heisman in 2008 with 3,000 yds 36 TDs.
Sam
November 30th, 2011
7:20 pm
Amazing video of a high school senior from Columbia TN who kicks the ball dead straight 75-80 yards in the air. He was successful on 54 of 54 attempts this season….100%. Now he needs a college team. Wants to go to Georgia Tech!!!
Watch for yourself…it is unreal!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_JKwgwFY3g
SEC_Fan
November 30th, 2011
7:21 pm
Joshua,
I don’t know Buck Belue, but I know that you haven’t watched Alabama play this year.
Oh, the jealousy
November 30th, 2011
7:27 pm
1. Dogs win 10 straight
2. Dogs in SEC championship game
3. Aaron Murray soon to be raking in many All SEC QB honors.
I’m loving it.
Preston
November 30th, 2011
7:44 pm
We can’t help it if we knock them out of the top 25 punks! We just win. Let the pollsters do their jobs and we’ll do ours! lol you guys are pathetic with your hate for UGA. The RESPECT is always there though. That’s why you’re here. LOSERS!
Humble Dawg
November 30th, 2011
7:50 pm
Proverbs 16:18
01HAWK
November 30th, 2011
7:51 pm
Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III is the best QB in the country. Luck is not.
Texas Dawg
November 30th, 2011
7:57 pm
Die hard Dawg fan here but I have said it before and I’ll say it again………………………….
MURRY has not won the big game yet!!!!!
He gets VERY inconsistent in the big games……he went 0-18 in the 4th qtr this year in the Fla ame….worst team in fla in years……..
SC he threw a pix six and fumbled one for six…
Bosie……line didn’t block for Crapola
MAKE A BELIEVER OUT OF ME THIS SATURDAY MURRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO DAwgs!!!!
Old Dog
November 30th, 2011
7:57 pm
Why can’t y’all block that SAM from posting? Don’t click on his link – it is a virus!
GoDOGS1
November 30th, 2011
8:02 pm
Sam
November 30th, 2011
7:20 pm
Ummm Sam…you think you got your blogs mixed up. This blog is about UGA not GT. Perhaps,if your kicker kid wants to go to Tech then why not post there? Of course, the way you are bouncing the youtube video all over the place and saying the kid wants to go here or there I can see why you are mixed up.
Idiot Dawg
November 30th, 2011
8:03 pm
Someone help me out. We have a good quarterback in Murray and have 2 more on the bench. We offered another QB Faton Bauta who is a very good athlete. Why? Don’t we have enough QB’s or is this kid that good? If he is, then who do we play Murray’s senior year? thanks
Win P
November 30th, 2011
8:03 pm
When evaulating the qb, there are several other considerations; the quality of the Ol, receivers and opposition. Murray stats look good. I’ve watch most UGA games and very few of the other teams represented in this post. IMO the opposition and the quality of UGA’s receivers have been favorable for UGA this season. OL play seems to have improved as the season progressed. This should be reflected in the # of sacks and “hurried” throws.
The decision to take a sack vs throw away appears to be slow on the throw away option. If you have a 3rd down and 15 yds for a 1st, then the probability of a pass play is high. If protection is not there or more defenders rush than anticipated, then a throw away (that doesn’t result in a penalty) should be a quicker option. The number of yds lost via sacks should indicate if he’s holding the ball too long,while trying to make a play.
I think I’ve detected something in Murray passing performance. If there a 2 or 3 consecutive incompleted passes, then Murrary seems to get frustrated. This is most apparent when the passes are good or fair and the receivers drops them. That may be a receiver problem. If I were Bobo and Murray has two dropped passes “in a row”, then the 3rd attempt would be a high % completion pass, even if it’s only for one yd. to the receivers with the best hands. I’m too hard on T.K. but there are times he will drop the ball even if handed to him.
will
November 30th, 2011
8:18 pm
How has GT finished the regular season the last decade GT man? 1-10
Humble Dawg
November 30th, 2011
8:24 pm
@01HAWK
Can’t argue with it. Too bad he plays for Baylor. It’s kinda like when that Flutie kid played for BC.
Niceville Dawg
November 30th, 2011
8:39 pm
@ Texas Dawg,I’m pretty sure Murray didn’t go 0-18 in the 4th quarter vs. FL……you may wanna re-check that one.
Humble Dawg
November 30th, 2011
8:52 pm
That was probably Brantley. He was limping in the third quarter. I don’t think he hit anything in the fourth.
Brick
November 30th, 2011
8:52 pm
LSU 115 UGA 3……………..at the half
bubba4dawgs
November 30th, 2011
9:22 pm
Thank You, Brick! Now we don’t have to watch the game!! Anyway, I’ll say it: GO DAWGS!!!!!
dawgs kill cats
November 30th, 2011
9:22 pm
uga is stacked @ qb and not so sure CMR isn t pulling the ole smoke and mirrors i think all tailbacks are ready and you will see them all saturday to add i think crowell could have played last two games
HABDAWG
November 30th, 2011
9:30 pm
@o1HAWK…..RGIII is not only the best QB, IMHO he is the best player/athlete in the Nation.
GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dawg48
November 30th, 2011
9:47 pm
Check this out on Tennessee football
http://tonybasilio.com/index.php?page=tony
Joshua
November 30th, 2011
9:48 pm
@Brick…..your screen name is indicative to your knowledge of football.
CHDawg
November 30th, 2011
9:49 pm
News flash: The ABH says good old Georgia red and silver! CMR said one player wanted a blackout, but CMR said they didn’t have time to produce them.
Dawg48
November 30th, 2011
9:58 pm
CHDawg
http://georgia.247sports.com/Board/19/-Richt-says-UGA-in-traditional-unis-Saturday-5897427
Jordan
November 30th, 2011
10:51 pm
http://isportsweb.com/2011/11/30/sec-championship-game-preview/
Corn Dawg
November 30th, 2011
11:08 pm
This stick does get a little uncomfortable sometimes.
L.A. BULLDAWG
December 1st, 2011
12:52 am
AARON MURRAY: 32TD’S 10INT’S? NOT BAD, FOR A QB SURROUNDED BY TRUE FRESHMEN PLAYMAKERS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ORSON CHARLES AND TAVARES KING! ENOUGH SAID!!!!
run up my stats vs teams not 1 of which is ranked in any poll
December 1st, 2011
2:13 am
(1) Stephen Garcia was a LOT better than Aaron Murray in that game this year, (2) and was better than Aaron Murray last year in that game, head-to-head, too. (3) Kellen Moore was FAR SUPERIOR to Aaron Murray in that game. Tyler Bray was better than Aaron Murray in our game vs the vols this season before he got injured. John Brantley had a superior game as QB than Aaron Murray head-to-head this season, only Florida could not run the football. (4) Jeff Godfrey for UCF was significantly better than Aaron Murray that day head-to-head. (5) Cam Newton was also a LOT better than Aaron Murray that day. (6) John Brantley was so much better than Aaron Murray in that game last year as to render this BS moot. (7) The Colorado QB Tyler Hansen had a LOT better day than Aaron Murray last year. (8) Chris Relf was dominating in his performance last year compared to Aaron Murray in that game. (9) Arkansas QB Ryan Mallet was head and shoulders better than Aaron Murray in that game last year.
16 wins, none over a team who today is shown a top 25 team for last year or this year. Go show me a poll today where any of the 16 wins is a top 25 team for that season. Go ahead. There isn’t a poll ranking any of the 16 wins in the top 25 for that season.
Head-to-head, 9 quarterbacks were better than Aaron Murray and he has 16 wins. 9 losses. Of the 9 losses, only 7 are to teams who ended the season in the top 25. He is 0-7 vs teams who ended that season in the top 25. It is what he does.
He holds on to the football too long. He overthrows, he throws behind his receiver, he is sacked more than any QB in America. He beats cupcakes and runs up his stats vs them, and then he loses to every team who ends up a top 25 team that season. He fumbles. He throws interceptions. He is a poor leader on the field allowing Isaiah Crowell to jump up jawing to these lousy opponents we have beat 10 in a row of. He does not take charge in the huddle. He is not given the benefit of knowing what play to call, instead, stopping and looking bewildered to the sideline for a play call. He averages 1 yard per carry and steals 8 carries a game every game for 2 years from the running backs, who average 5 yards a carry behind the same OL. The OL sucks but seems to me there are 3 senior OL who might all get picked up by an NFL team 1 game after this game Saturday. So, the sacks are the fault of the OL ? Or, Aaron Murray just holds the ball too long and refuses to throw it away ? Which is it ? He isn’t projected to be drafted by any NFL team, ever. He is small. He doesn’t see over the line well at all. He calls his own number and tries to do too much, yet you tell me with the Dream Team, he has all this talent around him. Which is it ? He tries to do too much, or he has all this talent and does not manage the game well ?
Wake me up when he beats a team who ends up in the top 25 of any poll, ever. How about that ?
Nationally, there are discussions of who the best quarterbacks are. He has been here starting his 4th year now. 2008 December practices with the team for the Michigan State bowl game. 2009 redshirted. 2010 saw us with our 7 losses having to look back 58 years to find an UGA team with more losses than he put up. 2011 he has played 2 teams ranked in any poll today and lost both. He plays a third now. According to you, I should give him credit for this win Saturday night before I even get off the MARTA train. Instead, he will be 0-8 vs any team who ends the season in any top 25 poll, and he has two (2) more losses to teams who did not make any top 25 poll at the end of either season.
The other quarterbacks recruited the same year he was, are being considered for the NFL Draft today. They have their bowl game and then we will see which will take the early exit. NFL is wrong too ? Because there is no NFL team discussing what Aaron Murray brings to the table as a passing quarterback in the NFL, and he absolutely is not a runner. Dual threat you billed him as to me. He isn’t. I told you all along he Never Would Be Any Dual-Threat QB with 4.7 speed in the 40-yard dash. Isaiah Crowell is 2 and half tenths of a second FASTER than Aaron Murray, and there are 229 recruits in this year’s 2011 recruiting class alone who have faster Nike times in the 40-yard dash than Isaiah Crowell. Aaron Murray gets thrown around back there like a rag doll.
The better quarterback on the field head-to-head in the games he has played to-date for UGA ? On the opposing team, 9 times to-date. And, he is the Best Quarterback According to This Blog and HEISMAN TROPHY QUARTERBACK.
BS
run up my stats vs teams not 1 of which is ranked in any poll
December 1st, 2011
2:39 am
Joshua November 30th, 2011 7:20 pm
“Mark my word….Aaron Murray will start the season next year as 2012 Heisman”
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end 3rd Quarter vs 6-6 Florida :
G 1-10 F19 Aaron Murray sideline pass incomplete to Marlon Brown.
G 2-10 F19 Aaron Murray sideline pass incomplete to Tavarres King.
G 3-10 F19 Aaron Murray post pass incomplete to Marlon Brown 4th Qtr:
G 1-10 F45 Aaron Murray deep pass incomplete to Orson Charles.
G 1-10 F35 Aaron Murray middle pass incomplete.
G 2-10 F35 Aaron Murray middle pass incomplete to Aron White.
G 3-10 F35 Aaron Murray sideline pass incomplete to Chris Conley
G 1-G F04 Aaron Murray pass incomplete to Bruce Figgins.
G 1-10 G20 Aaron Murray sideline pass incomplete.
G 3-9 G21 Aaron Murray sideline pass incomplete to Orson Charles.
G 3-6 G08 Aaron Murray sacked for loss of 1 yard to the GA7
G 3-4 G47 Aaron Murray middle pass incomplete to Michael Bennett
“I guess there really hasn’t been a marquee win,” Aaron Murray admitted.
December 1st, 2011
3:22 am
“I guess there really hasn’t been a marquee win,” Aaron Murray admitted.
3 TD La Lafayette 3-9
3 TD Colorado 5-7 Loss
2 TD vols 6-7
2 TD Vandie 2-10
0 TD Kentucky 6-7
3 TD Florida 8-5 Loss
3 TD Georgia tek 6-7
3 TD Idaho State 1-10
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19 TD passes vs 8 teams combined record 37-62
0 TD South Carolina 9-5 Loss
1 TD Arkansas 10-3 Loss
1 TD Missy State 9-4 Loss
3 TD Auburn 14-0 Loss
0 TD Central Florida 11-3 Loss
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5 TD Passes vs 5 teams combined record 53-15
24 TD passes total for 2010 a 6-7 record as Starter
19 TD passes vs 8 teams all with Combined Record of 37-62
5 TD passes vs 5 teams all with Combined Record of 53-15
5 TD passes vs 5 Ranked Teams finishing Top 25 AP Poll
19 TD passes vs 8 Unranked teams not finishing Top 25 AP Poll
2 TD Boise State 10-1 Loss end top 25, Loss
4 TD South Carolina 10-2 Loss end top 25, Loss
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6 TD vs teams who are ranked teams today
6 TD vs teams 20-3 the 2 ranked teams, LOST both
3 TD Coastal Carolina 7-4 Div 1-AA
2 TD Ole Miss 2-10
2 TD Missy State 6-6
0 TD vols 5-7
3 TD Vandie 6-6
2 TD Florida 6-6
5 TD New Mexico State 4-8
4 TD Auburn 7-5
1 TD KY 5-7
4 TD Georgia tek 8-4
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26 TD vs teams not 1 of which is ranked today
26 TD vs teams combined record 49-60 # 43 SoS
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For his career :
45 TD Passes vs teams record of 86-122, none ranked
11 TD Passes vs teams record of 73-18, all 7 ranked, all LOST
Bill Arnold
December 1st, 2011
7:01 am
As long as Johnson scouts and signs his quarterback, Georgia will stomp ‘em.
run up my stats vs teams not 1 of which aka Thomas Brown
December 1st, 2011
7:16 am
Last time I looked this was a UGA Sports blog, not Tech or Florida. It’s sad to see trolls come on here everyday and post there useless drivel. Sad, sad lives you live. I have never been on a Tech/Gator/Tide blog in my life, know why? Because I do not care about those teams. How about dropping a few pounds, leave the basement and meet a girl. Pathetic sh%t every stinking day. Leave this blog for Georgia fans who want to talk about UGA football and what is going on with the team. We shouldn;t have to sift through countless stats and utter nonsense from you trolls. Good day sirs
run up my stats vs teams not 1 of which aka Thomas Brown
December 1st, 2011
7:19 am
Alphare, GT BOB, GTJOE, TIDE ROLL all of you should get together with a box of Ritz Crackers and put your own oysters on them and enjoy.
ban anyone who doesn't say a guy with 40 % of his games, LOST as Starting QB is great
December 1st, 2011
7:36 am
Pretty sad stats too of 7 rushes per game for 25 games, 10 lost now, for only 1 yard a carry with 10 fumbles this year, and 9 fumbles last year with 24 sacks BOTH YEARS, a total of 48 sacks in 25 games.
Joshua
December 1st, 2011
7:58 am
@“I guess there really hasn’t been a marquee win,” Aaron Murray admitted.
“45 TD Passes vs teams record of 86-122, none ranked
11 TD Passes vs teams record of 73-18, all 7 ranked, all LOST”
Seriously way must you Lie….. I guess you seem to forget that Auburn was ranked #23 and he passed for 4 TDs and WON and last week against Georgia Tech he passed for 4 TDs and WON…thats 8 TDs right there in the past 2 weeks against ranked opponents…your Math just doesn’t add up. Get off Georgia Blogs and stick to your own team. Obviously you and every other hater on Murray failed to read the entire article here. We are talking about the 2011 College Football Season and the numbers for Murray don’t lie…2,700 yds and 32 TDs/ 10 Ints…with 2 more games to go Aaron Murray could finish close with Andrew Luck as passing for more TDs (Luck 35 TDs) this season, and guess what….against more ranked opponents.
Joshua
December 1st, 2011
8:07 am
@ban anyone who doesn’t say a guy with 40 % of his games, LOST as Starting QB is great
“a total of 48 sacks in 25 games.”- and is that the QB fault or the Offensive Line fault……geee let’s see, what is the Offensive Lines job….hmmmm….they are big….awfully strong…..uhh…maybe its their job to Block the other big and strong guys on the other team that is going after the QB. Don’t be dumb.
Niceville Dawg
December 1st, 2011
8:18 am
Joshua,please pay no attention…..Thomas Brown is at it again.Keeps changing names in hope someone will read his garbage.If it starts @1:30 AM and it’s 3 pages long,it’s Ms.Brown.
Texas Dawg
December 1st, 2011
8:19 am
@NicevilleDawg………………….What Fla game were you watching? Matter of fact several other bloggers made my case for me……just read the numbers….he was like 0-16 or 018 something like that……
THE POINT IS he hasn’t got it done against good teams…his great numbers are against poor teams,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
WHo care about his stats…………..he needs to lead his team to victory against the big boys!
Hope he proves me wrong Saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Dogs!!!!!!
Stan
December 1st, 2011
8:32 am
Last year, our boys went 6-7, 0-3 against ranked teams, not a success, although Murray might have considered his year a success last year. This year, our guys are 0-2 against ranked teams, Auburn & Tech & the rest of the teams our boys have beaten are not ranked.
Murray needs to beat a ranked team. 0-5 isn’t what it’s about.
DawgInaTruck
December 1st, 2011
8:45 am
Niceville, you hit the nail on the head. When I see all that crap I just start scrolling. Man, how much time must that take?
LSUTigerinATL
December 1st, 2011
8:50 am
I have a feeling he will do as well as Tyler Wilson from Arkansas did last week…FLOP! Sorry dawg fans, this is the year for LSU to go all the way!
Bulldog in the Triangle
December 1st, 2011
8:51 am
For whatever reason, Chip, not everyone agrees with your assessment of Murray. I live in Raleigh NC where some of the local radio yo-yo’s (the afternoon guys on AM-620) say that “Murray is not that good” and that they chuckle at the thought of him being one of the better QBs in the SEC.
I think they need to stick to talking basketball.
Jeff Striker
December 1st, 2011
8:55 am
LSUTigerinATL: you may be right sir. As much as I love my Dawgs, the Tigers look awefully good. If they beat GA, I wish you guys the best of luck vs. Bama in the rematch as I will be pulling for you. Let’s hope both teams play the game clean on saturday and avoid any major injuries. Cheers!
Charlie Weis' Cooler (chair)
December 1st, 2011
8:57 am
What about my boy John Brantley??????
TampaDawg
December 1st, 2011
9:12 am
01HAWK
November 30th, 2011
7:51 pm
Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III is the best QB in the country. Luck is not.
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Everyone outside of the Baylor community would disagree.
LkB
December 1st, 2011
9:13 am
GTBob – you should take the season off not because of Tevin but because Tech sucks as a whole.
Old Dawg
December 1st, 2011
9:17 am
Get grip fellow dawg fans, being the best quarterback in the SEC this year is like being the tallest midget in town – nothing to crow about. Also, considering this is the easiest schedule we have enjoyed in my memory – a long one – and he is at his worst when the going is the toughest, lets wait awhile before annointing him. OK?
Gimme a break
December 1st, 2011
9:22 am
Dawgs fans,
Dont let these trolls get you down, especially Techies. They are still scratching their heads and pounding their keyboards trying to figure out what happened. They were convinced tech was gonna get us this year. Thet were on cloud ten at the start of the year. They were on a roll, climbing the ranks. We were on a 2 game losing skid and headed for disaster. Then low and behold “old lady luck”
and “a hobnailed boot” here we are riding high and they are SICK to their vile stomachs. IT SUCKS TO BE TECH TERD right now doesnt it. You morons can build anything in the world. But theres 1 very important thing you brainiacs can build. A WINNING RECORD VS UGA!!! GO DAWGS AND TO HELL WITH GEORGIA TECH!! PUNKS.
NCDawg
December 1st, 2011
9:22 am
One of the stupidest stats I see is when someone says that a team has not beaten a team that is currently ranked in the top 25 or “Aaron Murray 0-7 vs all teams finishing top 25 all years he has been here” as Paul Johnson isn’t building anything says. The question is whether or not a team is ranked when you play them. One of the reasons a team is no longer ranked is because you beat them so. Both Auburn and GT were ranked when we played them and we beat them handily and the reason they are no longer ranked is because we beat the crap out of them. You can’t look at the current rankings as a measure of a team. You have to look at the point in time that is relevant and that is when you play them,
TampaDawg
December 1st, 2011
9:28 am
Joshua, you might want to lay low on that moron’s posts. He posted for months as “Thomas Brown” with a bunch of “Fire Mark Richt” and “Bench Aaron Murray” stuff. You can honestly get caught up in his statistical madness. The sad part is, it may take you a bit, but you soon realize that you are dealing with someone who:
1. Obviously never played the game, much less the QB position
2. Doesn’t understand that spinning stats doesn’t take W’s off the scoreboard
3. Obviously doesn’t understand life outside of looking up stats
4. Doesn’t realize that there is more to a game that the stats alone
5. Forbids you to forget anything from 6 years ago
6. Thinks he is an expert in everything
7. Is probably a teenager just skipping school
DawginLex
December 1st, 2011
9:30 am
bulldawg/thomas brown
I don’t give a crap where Murray is on the NFL draft board.
I don’t give a crap about your stats about who he has beaten and how they are ranked and whether or not you consider it a quality team.
We had a QB that was all about his draft status and he never got us to ATL.
So do us all a BIG FAVOR and SHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joey
December 1st, 2011
9:33 am
“We had a QB that was all about his draft status and he never got us to ATL.”
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That kinda ends the argument, doesn’t it?
TampaDawg
December 1st, 2011
9:37 am
NCDawg, I agree completely. The only time I look at a team and where they are ranked now as more important than where they were ranked when a team played them is when it’s early in the season and we don’t know how good the team really is yet. Case in point, Texas A&M was ranked reasonably high to start the season but they have racked up some losses since then including Missouri and an overrated Texas team that show maybe they didn’t deserve the early ranking.
What many of the “where did they finish ranked” crowd often forget is this. What would have happened to Auburn or Tech’s rankings had they won against UGA? They would have moved up undoubtedly. So do the math. If your team is the reason an opponent got bounced from the rankings, that’s NOT a bad thing.
TampaDawg
December 1st, 2011
9:45 am
Lex, I still don’t necessarily believe Stafford was all about draft status. There were too many games, especially in 2008 where the guy took a beating. And kept coming back.
DawginLex
December 1st, 2011
9:46 am
He had the martinez defense to overcome too
TampaDawg
December 1st, 2011
9:50 am
Amen to that .. that was no small feat. The Gators exploited it regularly
ARdawg
December 1st, 2011
10:00 am
I am all about some Aaron Murray. The guy is good but isn’t near as good as he is going to be. However, I think it a grave mistake that Mason isn’t getting more playing time. But, I’m blogging and Mark Richt is coaching so, we’ll see how it works out for both of us
TampaDawg
December 1st, 2011
10:04 am
Nice finish there AR .. I remember all the Murray detractors calling for him to be benched in favor of starting Mason. They pointed out Mason’s high school stats as the clear sign .. as if Murray left Plant High in Tampa as a senior throwing for 1,200 yards and 12 TDs or something. That being said, I am sure Mason will be good if the chance ever arrives. Problem is, it’s hard to see that coming. He will have a chance at some point, if not UGA, somewhere.
DawginLex
December 1st, 2011
10:06 am
ARdawg
You think Mason might redshirt next year so he could play after Murray graduates?
I guess it depends on Lemay’s development too
beanster
December 1st, 2011
10:12 am
Man I hope that Ben Jones and Co. can give him enough time to get comfortable (relatively) back there. Kinda stating the obvious but Dawg Ws this year have a lot to do with AM’s confidence in the pocket. I want to think positive about LSU, but I still cringe thinking about the OL getting whipped by Boise’s front 7. If I have one criticism of AM, it’s that he still has to learn how to win when the situation is less than ideal in his backfield.
ARdawg
December 1st, 2011
10:13 am
DawginLex
I’m not a big redshirt guy. These kids can bolt after their 3rd year anyway. Why redshirt any of them unless it’s medical? The way I see it, we have 2 maybe 3 of the best QBs in the country. If something happen to Murray neither Mason or LeMay are prepared to take the reins. No matter how much playbook they know, there is no substitute for experience
ARdawg
December 1st, 2011
10:16 am
Experience in mop up situations is good but, it isn’t enough. I hope I am not cursing Murray but, if he goes down against LSU, do you think Mason is ready? Mason has all the goods. He’ll probably be better than Murray eventually and would likely impress in such a scenario but could he get the job done? Not so much me thinks
ARdawg
December 1st, 2011
10:28 am
TampaDawg
I like Murray and have since his debut against Laffeyette last year. He’s made some bonehead decision like all QBs do. It’s the learning curve. I have seen a few situations where “I” thought it was time to let him think it out on the pine while Mason gave it a go. I played a little back in my day (not QB) but, nothing could clear my mind and make me hungrier for redemption than watching someone else play my position
TampaDawg
December 1st, 2011
10:45 am
All is true AR, but it can also have the opposite effect (see Terry Dean from his days at UF under Spurrier). So then also, if you bring in the backup with the game in flux and the backup does well and brings the TEAM back, what do you do then? Kinda like the Tebow situation in Denver now. We look up and the starter at the beginning of the season isn’t even on the team now.
ARdawg
December 1st, 2011
11:01 am
TampaDawg
Well, thats where the rubber meets the road in coaching philosophy. After a series or two, (”I”) bring Murray back in regardless of the success or lack of it from Mason.
Mason could start at any SEC school today but, he’s at UGA. If he wants that starting position he has to earn it in Fall camp. But, with a talent like that playing back up, wouldn’t a coach be remiss not to keep him ready?
secdawgs
December 1st, 2011
11:09 am
“Bad Dawg, I have no doubt that there are guys in the SEC who were highly recruited. It doesn’t mean they are doing much now. Go take a look at the national passing statistics. There are no SEC quarterbacks near the top of any category. You may be right, the run heavy mindset of the SEC probably influences that but you would think someone from the SEC would emerge as a big time college QB on a national level.”
I think a QB that is drafted number one overall in the NFL draft has emerged as a big time college QB.
TampaDawg
December 1st, 2011
11:19 am
True SECDawgs, not to mention, Brantley was a “big-time recruit” for Florida. McCarron and Bray were high ranked recruits as well.
beanster
December 1st, 2011
11:26 am
Does anyone else miss the “gamer” Murray? When he first arrived, he instinctively scrambled a lot. Busted plays turned into decent gains or sometimes a surprise 1st down. I also remember that type of play being discouraged right away by Bobo and CMR. Now he rarely takes off with it.
Tampa you would know best but how many games did he win in high school (assuming he was a scrambler then) with that style? He’s much more polished now but I hope he hasn’t forgotten how to make something out of nothing like he used to. Something tells me there are going to be many occasions in Saturday’s game for those abilities to payoff into something big. We can’t rely solely on X’s and O’s against that many athletes. It didn’t work for Bama and it certainly didn’t work for Arkansas either. Somebody, hopefully Murray, is going to have to step up and make the plays necessary to get it done.
ARdawg
December 1st, 2011
11:33 am
beanster
Murray tucked and ran several times against Tech when he didn’t see something down field he liked. You are correct he did much more of it last year but, much of that was just he was running for his life. The OL was near invisible at times
Gimme a break
December 1st, 2011
11:35 am
Murray is a great competitor. Maybe to great. He has gotten alot better as the season went along. He just tried to do too much on SC. And it may have cost us the game. He needs to let the game come to him. Now Im not taking anything away from him, hes a very good qb. He needs to take his time, if the OL gives it, find his target, and hit him. Sometimes he throws too hard or lofts the ball deep. He needs to lead his targets deep and across the middle.
TampaDawg
December 1st, 2011
11:38 am
beanster, he still scrambles a lot I think. Not as much as in high school no and I don’t really know how many games he won that way, but he had good rushing stats. Not great but he had a nearly 10 ypc average. He was no Michael Vick, but he always been one to get out of the pocket if necessary.
TampaDawg
December 1st, 2011
11:41 am
His Junior year he had close to a 1,000 yards rushing and 12 rushing TDs to go along with the 51 he had passing the ball (not a bad year). His senior season though was when he missed several games with the broken leg. Instantly his recruit ranking fell after that happened. Go figure.
beanster
December 1st, 2011
11:46 am
I don’t see us getting great protection and executing like we did against Tech. They are too strong, fast, tough to allow that. Bama even had strong production from Richardson and it still wasn’t enough. Honestly I think Bama outplayed them but just didn’t get it done on the scoreboard.
I hope you’re right, Gimme a break, and we see 4 catches apiece from Mitchell, Bennett, Conley, and King with Isaiah grinding out 150 yards. Similar to the balanced attack we had in 2005. I am just afraid LSU has too many studs for our freshmen-led offense to be successful.
ARdawg
December 1st, 2011
11:57 am
beanster
We can hope they are planning him in the shotgun and practicing quick release. I think the no huddle offense might be a better idea in this game as opposed to others.
ARdawg
December 1st, 2011
12:07 pm
LSU will be coming. I suspect they plan on forcing Murray to beat them with his arm
beanster
December 1st, 2011
12:08 pm
He did look good in the shotgun against GT. I was watching the game with my Dad (who isn’t a Dawgs’ fan per se) who said Murray reminded him of Tom Brady at times. That may be a little much but he did look very composed delivering the ball.
I hope our guys are focusing on tucking the ball and holding on for dear life this week. The thought of Boo Malcolme meeting up with the honey badger scares me to death.
ARdawg
December 1st, 2011
12:15 pm
beanster
We don’t have to run it down their throats. Besides, I don’t imagine we can. Just enough to keep them honest. IC I suspect is a very important part of the game plan. I hope he’s up to it and comes through. Higly unlikely we can expose that LSU defensive front but we can them corners
beanster
December 1st, 2011
12:26 pm
I agree that we won’t run it down their throats. CMR’s comments from Tuesday pretty much erased any confidence I had in our tailbacks. Maybe Aaron will magically grow a couple of inches so he can see over the line to throw an effective screen for once. And I agree about the corners….stay away from the middle of the field and #7.
beanster
December 1st, 2011
12:40 pm
and actually the Reid guy scares me just as much as Mathieu.
ARdawg
December 1st, 2011
12:59 pm
beanster
LSU’s secondary and corners are good. No doubt about it but, Good receivers and good passing triumphs good secondary
TampaDawg
December 1st, 2011
1:07 pm
I think of all the passes that people would think height would play a factor in, screen passes aren’t one of them. His height at 6-1 isn’t an issue. It’s a pretty overrated stat as far as QBs go (unless you’re like, 5-7, but then that limits you at MANY positions, not just QB)
dawgfarts
December 1st, 2011
4:21 pm
Tech runs the triple option, a QB who can throw is not part of the equation. A Georgia Southern fan such as myself knows that. So dumb to even mention Tevin Washington. Oh yeah, UGA fans are mentally retarded. Stop drinking the pond water.
clint1123
December 2nd, 2011
12:27 am
BILLY JACK
November 30th, 2011
5:14 pm
More all sec players than just Murray Georgia will place Boykin cb kr JJones LB B Jones C CGlenn T DButler P OCharles TE posibility of Rambo 2nd team and MMitchell offensive player of the year.
WOW! You really think Boykin will be named all SEC 1st team. I can’t speak about the rest of the guys you named, but if you think he will get that honor over Mo Claiborne, Honey Badger,Dre Kirkpatrick, Gilmore then you are really aserious homer or misguided.
Notso Fast
December 4th, 2011
5:45 am
Murray is a player that you could put a real togethere with his good plays and think he might be a first round quarterback. Then again you could put a real together of his turnovers and think he will be lucky to get invited to a camp. He makes many big plays, just too many are for the other team. If he can change that and he has the time, he will be very good.