Outcome of SEC Championship won’t impact LSU’s BCS opportunities

Welcome to championship week. Raise your hand if you expected Georgia to be in this position back on Sept. 11th. That was the day after the supposedly devastating 45-42 loss to South Carolina. To his credit, Bulldogs’ coach Mark Richt did, as his comments after that game indicate.

Since then the Bulldogs won 10 straight, culminating with Saturday’s 31-17 win over Georgia Tech to conclude the regular season. Now it gets real interesting!

Georgia’s season began with a rather lackluster loss to No. 5 Boise State in the Georgia Dome. Now the Bulldogs head back and will face an even bigger challenge in No. 1-ranked LSU in the SEC Championship Game. No one’s giving them a chance to win. The early lines I’ve seen have the Tigers favored by 11.5 to 13 points. So Las Vegas is expecting a rout.

What I think is most interesting about Saturday’s game is the apparent lack of bearing it will have on LSU’s BCS national championship hopes. Virtually every prediction out there has the Tigers still playing in the title game even if they lost to Georgia and even if that loss was a blowout.

There is even some speculation that LSU could clinch a share of the national title with a win over Georgia on Saturday via The AP vote.

That has brought forth some previously unfathomable reasoning. LSU coach Les Miles was asked this past weekend if he had considered resting some of his players and kind of taking it easy for the SEC championship game. Miles’ response was predictable.

“Just so you know, there is no way this football team goes to Atlanta and doesn’t play its best,” he said.

The truth is, the bigger the stage, the better LSU has played this season. The Tigers’ season began with a game against a top 5 Oregon team in the “Jerry Dome” in Dallas and they’ve had “monumental” contests all year, with trips to West Virginia, Alabama and Arkansas. They seem to do their best where the lights are brightest.

“We’re used to being on the big stage,” Miles said Sunday. “I think our guys translate the glare of the lights to making plays in the game. I think they did that against Oregon in Dalaas and they’ve really done it right on through Alabama at Alabama. So we’re kind of comfortable in domes and we’ll look forward to seeing if we can the exact same thing.”

Expect the Bulldogs to get LSU’s best shot.

So does anybody here have a problem with the SEC championship game being rendered moot with regard to the BCS title? And does anybody believe Georgia has a chance in this game?

Meanwhile, we here at the AJC are treating it as a meaningful game. We have a lot of great coverage plans so be sure to check back regularly for updates as we’ll post everything online as quickly as we have it. And feel free to offer suggestions for stories or particular subjects you’d like to see covered.

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lanier

November 28th, 2011
11:41 am

SEC champ should go to the BCS Championship which either team it is

Unicoidawg

November 28th, 2011
11:44 am

Just keep on playing DAWGS!!!!

RiffRaff

November 28th, 2011
11:45 am

LSU and Bama again. Boring…..

hank

November 28th, 2011
11:45 am

My christmas wish is for UGA to beat LSU and OSU to drag Oklahoma and get bumped to number 2 in the BCS. I would love to see ‘bama’ in the Capital One Bowl.

DawginLex

November 28th, 2011
11:46 am

Okie state, if they beat OK, has a better resume than Bama and they will be a conference champion.

Their only loss was on the same day that their community suffered a devastating loss of the women’s b-ball coach in a plane crash.

Bama should not be in the BCS title game.

“any team that does not win its conference championship should not be in the BCS title game.”
Nick Saban, 2003

toothless Mike

November 28th, 2011
11:46 am

How ’bout them dawgs! Just win baby

Biggest Dawg

November 28th, 2011
11:47 am

Still wanna relish UGA’s victory Sat….tech fans booing our band’s tribute to Munson…such low class…AGAIN.I have seen fans from all over and I know we have some bad ones,but tech’s is the worst.You won’t beat us next year either.
now,GO DAWGS and give em hell Sat.!

hank

November 28th, 2011
11:48 am

My dear departed pop used to say ‘there ain’t been a horse that couldn’t be rode and there ain’t been a rider that couldn’t be throwed.’ Hell yes GA can beat LSU.

Old Fart

November 28th, 2011
11:49 am

Another example of the BCS being a total joke. Georiga beats a ranked GT team by 14. Mich. St. beats an unranked team by 14. Mich St passes UGA. I would give a pretty penny for UGA to beat LSU and let the national championship be between the #2 and #3 team in the SEC. That would make the BCS look even more stupid. They might as well do away with Conference Championships. They don’t mean anyting in our current system. I even heard some idiot say that they should take UGA out of the SEC championship and let Alabama and LSU play again. I smell a playoff system right around the corner.

Red Stick

November 28th, 2011
11:52 am

Good article Chip. I, along with the other Tiger fans, will be very disappointed if we take this game lightly. We all want to have a perfect season.

Miles is alot smarter than he gets credit for sometimes. He knows that LSU will be in trouble if they don’t bring their “A” game on Saturday.

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

1eyedJack

November 28th, 2011
11:56 am

Yeah I have a problem with the SEC Championship game being rendered moot.

I also have a problem with the hypocrits at ESPN and their “you can’t play for the MNC if you don’t win your conference, oh wait, it’s Alabama….nevermind.”

I also have a problem with Bama, who didn’t win their conference getting a bye while LSU will have to play Georgia in the SECCG and risk injury.

I also hate Herbstreit.

RiffRaff

November 28th, 2011
11:56 am

There would be no reason for LSU to ‘rest’ any player right now. The championship game isn’t until January 9th.

NCDawgs Fan

November 28th, 2011
11:58 am

So, what exactly was the reason that the Dawgs dropped a place in the BCS despite handily beating a ranked opponent? BCS is a flawed system as evidence by the fact that BAMA will make it in to the game considering what happened in ‘07 and that LSU should be guaranteed no less than a share of the title if they win Saturday and lose to BAMA in the title game, but will not. Time to take back College Football from the money mongers!

Tim

November 28th, 2011
11:59 am

Georgia gets no respect and if Georgia wins on sat then everyone will say they only won because lsu rested players for the BCS title game they dont belong in!! And how the heck does GA beat a ranked team and Mich St beat a non ranked team and we fall back to 14???

1999DAWG

November 28th, 2011
11:59 am

If the O-Line can give Murray some time and if Crowell is healthy, I think the Dawgs beat LSWho. Our D will hold down their offense and our offense should make enough plays to win the game. GO DAWGS! Sic’em!!

monty

November 28th, 2011
11:59 am

Not sure why we can’t get any love from the BCS. Our 2 losses are to top 10 teams, we win 10 straight and can’t even crack the top 13? If, and I say if, we can beat LSU, I can already hear the BCS voters saying,”It was a meaningless game for LSU,blah,blah,blah…” Sorry, but don’t you want to run the table? Go undefeated? Win the SEC? The system is biased.

robodawg

November 28th, 2011
12:01 pm

LSU has a perfect season to play for and an SEC championship to play for. But more than that, Miles doesn’t want to leave anything to chance as far as getting to the BCS championship. If they play poorly Saturday and if Oklahoma St has an impressive outing on the big stage later that night, then voters have an excuse to avoid a rematch.

I expect LSU to be plenty motivated. Nothing’s set in stone yet.

toccoa

November 28th, 2011
12:02 pm

If GA beats LSU, which I don’t think will happen, then Ga is the better team. The talking heads are saying that the 2 best teams should play in the NC. The problem is that they adjust the rules to match their desires ( aka; Les Miles, Nick Saban, ESPN, ect). There is no way LSU should play in the game if thyey lose to GA!! It’s Unbelievable that it’s even an option. We would have 2 SEC teams that didn’t win the SEC playing for the title. That doesn’t even COMPUTE!!

BCS will show it's true colors...

November 28th, 2011
12:04 pm

If UGA pulls off an upset of LSU on Saturday, it would quickly illustrate the “sham” that is know as the BCS. Do I think that UGA is “likely” to win Saturday? No. Do I think that they have a decent chance to pull off an upset? Absolutely. The team is on a ten-game winning streak. Even though they haven’t beaten any “huge” opponents, they have shown some streaks of wonderful football. If they bring their “A-game,” it will be a close game that could go either way. The problem is that we don’t ever know which UGA team is going to show up. Inconsistency is their biggest issue.

If LSU loses on the last game of their schedule to a team that is not in the top 10, I don’t see how you could think that LSU deserves to go to the championship. More importantly, I don’t see where Alabama should be in the equation at all. We’ve already had an LSU-Alabama game. We don’t need another one. Let someone else play.

1eyedJack

November 28th, 2011
12:05 pm

“And how the heck does GA beat a ranked team and Mich St beat a non ranked team and we fall back to 14???”

The same way that Georgia sitting at #2 gets jumped over by an LSU team that was sitting at #7 in 2007.

Dawg Fud

November 28th, 2011
12:07 pm

Tim

November 28th, 2011
12:08 pm

I just dont get how alabama can sit and wtach the sec championship and still play for the title its BS and what did nick sabin say in 2003? i believe it was ” you cant play for the title if you dont win your conf championship! MR JORDAN JEFFERSON BETTER BRING YOUR HARD HAT AND LUNCH PALE CAUSE YOUR GONNA SEE ALOT OF JARVIS JONES!!

Shotgun Planet

November 28th, 2011
12:12 pm

I have enjoyed college football for many years. Paul Johnson brought national champions to GA Southern. Great watching them through the mundane GA years… point is… Division 1 College Football is the only sport that DOES NOT decide its Champion on the field of play. Why is this?

Tim

November 28th, 2011
12:15 pm

1eyedjack you are right! they jumped GA and played for the title because they said you cant play if you dont win your conf championship. WTF

Hurt Kurbstreit

November 28th, 2011
12:16 pm

I’m a UGA fan. But if LSU loses to the Dawgs in the SEC CG, they still deserve to play in the National Champ Game. They have earned it over the course of the season with impressive wins over ranked teams.

Hurt Kurbstreit

November 28th, 2011
12:16 pm

I’m a UGA fan. But if LSU loses to the Dawgs in the SEC CG, they still deserve to play in the National Champ Game. They have earned it over the course of the season with impressive wins over ranked teams.

Hurt Kurbstreit

November 28th, 2011
12:16 pm

I’m a UGA fan. But if LSU loses to the Dawgs in the SEC CG, they still deserve to play in the National Champ Game. They have earned it over the course of the season with impressive wins over ranked teams.

Cmon man

November 28th, 2011
12:18 pm

So the stage is now set for uga to continue to get disrespected. First they win 10 in a row and folks say its not impressive because the east is down this year. If they beat lsu they will say lsu was looking ahead to the bcs championship game. When it comes to uga football you are damned if you do and damned if you dont.

Dawg_Mike

November 28th, 2011
12:18 pm

IF this was Alabama at # 13 playing LSU this week I bet they would vault to the top after beating them.
just sayin.

Tim

November 28th, 2011
12:20 pm

DAWG MIKE you couldnt have made a more true statement! its BS

Come On!

November 28th, 2011
12:22 pm

Dawgs will be like a ONE LEGGED MAN IN AN A$$ KICKING CONTEST.. Just kidding good luck guys!

Geaux Tigers!

Tim

November 28th, 2011
12:25 pm

Georgia will beat LSU and get no respect cause they will say les miles rested players, then Georgia will beat houston in the sugar bowl and still get no respect cause they will say we beating houston is like beating you 7 yr old brother!

ARdawg

November 28th, 2011
12:25 pm

If this isn’t proof of a BCS system full of impropriety, I don’t know what is. LSU is in win or lose the SECCG. Bama is in no matter what LSU does.

If Bama beats LSU 9-6 in the BCSCG, who’s the champ?

southgadawg

November 28th, 2011
12:27 pm

I am a devote Dawg fan for more than 41 years, this being said, I believe UGA can win but is surely an underdog. If the Dawgs win, great for UGA but don’t expect a great bump in the polls. NO RESPECT for Georgia!

If LSU wins, they get a BSC championship game but it should NOT be against Bama. If you can’t win your conference, let alone your division, you dont go. Bama had their shot and lost. They may be the second best team in the nation, but how many times should LSU have to beat them to win the National Championship? Bama would have to win only once, is that right? Give another 1 loss team their shot now. If LSU losses, then two 1 loss teams should face each other. LSU and Bama should NOT play each other either way. Neither LSU or Bama may play, it might be Stanford and OSU or any combination of the 1 loss teams that have NOT faced each other. You should be required to win your conference though to be included. Just ask DAWG fans about that!!!!! That was what we were told and UGA was one of the top 3 teams at the end of the season also. I guess that is why your first few games at the start of the season are as important as the last ones.

BTW to H*LL with ESPN, why do you watch them and support them when they disrespect our college teams so much? Are the Dawgs a top 10 team? We will know Saturday night, but don’t expect ESPN ( sorry espn), to admit the Dawgs won, just that LSU was looking forward.

Tim

November 28th, 2011
12:29 pm

Alabama had their shot on their home field and couldnt close the deal!! the ONLY 3 teams to win 10 in a row is GA LSU HOUSTON. If GA wins they should play for the title!

Matt

November 28th, 2011
12:31 pm

The proponents of the BCS system argue that the regular season is the playoff system, lose and your NC dreams are probably over. FIrst of all this is flawed because you shouldn’t expect any team to go undefeated. Also, why is the team who loses in week 1 and rolls off 11 straight more deserving than the team that wins 11 straight and loses in the last week?

Every week teams lose and drop. LSU could lose and stay? We heard the argument when Stafford and Moreno and Co. couldn’t play for the NC because they didn’t even play for their conference title, regardless of destroying the last 6 or 7 teams they played and ending the year #2. NOW of course it doesn’t matter that you don’t play for your conference as long as you are ranked really high.

NOt to mention that if Bama were to beat LSU on January 9th how can they be the NC since the season record with LSU would be 1-1????

Keep it up BCS. I look forward to the playoff system forthcoming.

southgadawg

November 28th, 2011
12:34 pm

Being honest I do think LSU is the best and #1 in the land at this point. They have beaten 3 teams that were ranked 2,2,3 at the time and all three are still ranked in the top 10. Georgia losses have been to 2 top 12 teams and should have (yes I know they loss anyway) won against SC.

Bama in Atlanta

November 28th, 2011
12:34 pm

If Okie State beats Oklahoma then I’ll be the first to admit that Okie State should play LSU for the BCS title. If not, then I do think Bama is the best of the other one-loss teams (and Houston) and therefore should be ranked #2. Being a Bama grad I’m admittedly a little biased in this opinion but I think I can make a good case.

The debates/arguments/opinions will continue regarding what the BCS title game rules “should be” but, for now, we can only follow the prevailing rules….much like any economic or political issue….which state that the BCS title game is between the two top rated teams in the BCS rankings.

Maybe there should be an Occupy BCS Movement to change the rules or……wait for it…….include a mini-playoff system of the top 4 teams. Instead of the top 4 teams going to bowls, then the #1 team plays #3 and #2 plays #4 and then the championship game. This way, only one extra game is played than under the current bowl format.

I know that the BCS system was formed to circumvent a playoff system yet have a better process than just regular season & bowl games to name a champion but we seem to have jumped out of the pot and into the fire. Obviously, the bottom line is the almighty $$ so until someone can prove this beats the current financial model then don’t expect change soon. However, if we took the stance that we can’t change anything so why bother then it will be a self-fulfilled prophecy.

OkieDawg

November 28th, 2011
12:35 pm

The most likely scenario is that LSU beats UGA by 2 TDs. In that case, the 2 best teams in college football, LSU and Alabama, will play for the NC. The other unlikely scenario is that UGA beats LSU. And then you look for the 2 best one loss teams in college football and I think that based on that, it is still LSU and Alabama. Even with that said, I would prefer a one loss Alabama against Ok. State if they beat OU.

Matt

November 28th, 2011
12:35 pm

Forgot to mention that Mich. St. moves up after beating an unranked opponent by the same margin UGA beat a ranked opponent (dawgs dropped a spot).

I’m sure the crowds will flock to see Mich/Houston in the Sugar Bowl!!!!

Gotta love politicians continuing to F things up.

AG

November 28th, 2011
12:35 pm

Although there is no playoffs in college football, realistically it sort of is with the conference championships. It is truly a hyprocracy if GA is not considered to play for the national championship because they have two lossess. In all sports, the team with the best regular season record does not automatically go to the championship! Championships are awarded to teams that have been hot at end of the season. Alabama should be eliminated because on the field they lost ot LSU. LSU should be eliminated if they lose to Georgia.. PERIOD! SEC Championship game determines one of the two teams that go to BCS title game.

Go Dawgs!

November 28th, 2011
12:36 pm

Question, and I’m surprised none of the talking heads have discussed this scenario.

The BCS has a rule that no conference is allowed more than two teams.

Now if UGA wins they earn a bid to the Sugar Bowl, but according to most even in that scenario LSU and Bama would still play in the title game.

How do they justify breaking their own rule of no more than two teams per conference?

You know other conferences are going to scream and cry over the SEC having THREE major payouts from the BCS.

Does this mean UGA winds up winning the SEC and NOT going to the Sugar Bowl?

Legit questions.

Anyone have any insight or thoughts?

Dawg_Mike

November 28th, 2011
12:39 pm

Matt- good points, and the crowds will flock to Miami to see VT/WV too.
zzzzzzzzzzzz

Tim

November 28th, 2011
12:39 pm

Todd Grantham will have his guys ready better believe that! ESPN can say and talk all they want, but facts are facts and the scoreboard will tell the truth when its over GA 35 LSU 10! and Mr Saban if you want some after we mop up LSU come and get some! This is NOT the same GA team you saw lose to boise st! Hunker Down Dawgs! Larry will be looking down sayin ” oh my god we just stepped on their face with a hobnail boot and broke their nose!!!

Dawg_Mike

November 28th, 2011
12:39 pm

Death to the BCS !

Jeff

November 28th, 2011
12:42 pm

SOOOOOOOO…what happended to the “you cant play for a national Championship if you cant win your own conference????????? The BCS is run by a bunch of slime……money talks big time…..this is just as bad as the Ohio State and Penn State debacles………we just choose to look at it differently……wrong is wrong no matter what you’re talking about.

Silly Thinking

November 28th, 2011
12:43 pm

UGA ain’t go’n to beat LSU this year,,,no way!!! PERIOD!!! That is a silly headline the local sports writers came up with to keep the rednecks interested in their blogs. LSU vs Alabama!!! Then UGA vs whomever,,,who cares?

bama 1

November 28th, 2011
12:44 pm

I just love to watch all the whining about “Bama in the BCS Championship game. The 2 best teams is the rule. Want to go next year? Then get your act together. ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fair and Balanced

November 28th, 2011
12:49 pm

Why doesn’t it matter WHEN you lose? Seems to me if GA beats Lsu then GA is the better team and should play for NC before Lsu does. Need a playoff. It’s the only way. On the other hand I think GA loses to Lsu, Bama beats Lsu and wins the NC.

Tim

November 28th, 2011
12:49 pm

bama 1 you had your chance in your own backyard and you guys wet the bed. didnt your coach once say ” you cant play for the title if you dont win your conf championship” hell you guys didnt even win your conf. if OK st beats OK then they will jump you trust me!