UPDATED: What happened to change direction of Georgia football?
The most significant change in the last four years has been Mark Richt's decision to relinquish offensive game-planning and play-calling duties. (AP photo)
I’m not sure how many people were watching College GameDay this past Saturday morning and saw the piece they aired on the Georgia football program. It was titled, “Discontent in Georgia” and I was among the individuals interviewed for it. Here’s A LINK to the video clip if you haven’t seen it.
But the real fireworks, I thought, came in the ensuing debate among the College GameDay panel, including regulars Lee Corso, Chris Fowler and Kirk Herbstreit and a new castmember named David Pollack, who some of you may have heard of.
In any case, it didn’t paint a very pretty picture of the direction of the Bulldogs’ football program, and that was before they went out and lost to South Carolina 45-42 on national TV. I thought it could have been a little more balanced — surely they could have found some folks that would have defended head coach Mark Richt — but the general theme was that Georgia fans are unhappy with the way things are going and want a coaching change. That’s what set off the debate among the GameDay guys.
The problem when you do television interviews for something like this is, typically, they ask you questions for 15-20 minutes and they may use 30 seconds of what you say. That was the case here and that’s fine. I knew that going in.
But one of the things they asked me about that didn’t make the airwaves was what I thought had taken place that precipitated Georgia’s downturn. It was a tough question and, honestly, one that I kind of struggled with. But after rattling it around in my brain for awhile, I came up with the best answer I could at the moment.
The only thing I could think of that changed from 2007, when the Bulldogs won 11 games, to 2008-10, when they won 10 then 8 then 6, was Richt relinquishing control of offensive game-planning and play-calling responsibilities.
If you recall, it was after the Georgia Tech game at the end of the 2006 regular season that we found out that Richt discreetly turned over those duties to quarterbacks coach Mike Bobo for that contest. Bobo also handled the responsibility in the bowl game and, after being bestowed the title of offensive coordinator in 2007, has been in charge of the offense ever since.
Now this is not to say I think Bobo’s offensive strategies have been the reason for Georgia’s demise. That was not and is not my point. In fact, Bobo’s offenses on average have actually out-gained (387.21-377.76 ypg) and out-scored (31.28-28.13 ppg) Richt’s. It has more to do with the resulting fundamental change in the way Richt directed the program as head coach.
Think about that for a minute. For 11 years before Richt came to Georgia, he was quarterbacks coach and/or offensive coordinator at Florida State, which happened to finish in the Top 5 nationally every one of those years. For the majority of that time, he was game-planning and play-calling for the Seminoles. Then he comes to Georgia in December of 2000 and, after doing calling the national championship game with FSU, he hits the recruiting trail for the Bulldogs and assumes the same offensive responsibilities at UGA in addition to being head coach.
That goes on through the 2006 season, when he finally entrusts the Xs and Os to somebody else. It was an exhausting run, I’m sure.
But again, more than not calling all the offensive shots, this represented a profound change in how Richt went about his business, both on a weekly and daily basis all the way down to game management. That must have had some sort of effect on the way things have gone.
Anyway, I’m not sharing all this to say I’ve figured anything out. This is much more of an observation than it is a hypothesis. But it’s something I’ll continue to look into going forward. And, of course, there are so many other aspects that go into running a college football program. Evaluation, recruiting, coaching, training, injuries, academics, luck, they all have something to do with it.
But that’s what I’m asking you guys today. Here is the cold reality: Georgia is off to an 0-2 start this season. It is 14-14 overall (12-14 vs. FBS) and 7-10 in the SEC since the 2009. So, what do you think happened?
UPDATE: I asked Coach Richt at his presser Tuesday what he would point to as the main reason for the recent downturn. Here’s what he said:
“Last year we went through all that, and we talked about things that are a year old. Those are old. This season is the only thing I’m really concerned about, and obviously, we turned the ball over. Not only were they turnovers, they were turnovers for points. I guess there was five yards they had to track one time. Our defense basically gave up 17 points to a pretty darn good football team. They had no responsibility for the fake punt, the pick six or the fumble for a touchdown. They could have stopped them on the five yard line going in. Sudden change – that’s their job to turn it into a field goal. We just gave that one away.”
– Chip Towers
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JB
September 13th, 2011
8:25 am
What’s the fuss…………..It’s called cable 24/7 news and commentary and the internet, something Dooley did not had to deal with. We all use to sit around and wait on the Atlanta journal in the morning to what little blip would be written. Football news and info is 365 days a year and 24 hours a day and everyone now has an opinion to get into YOUR ears. That’s the difference.
Ouch, those hobnail boots hurt!
September 13th, 2011
8:25 am
We haven’t seen sugar falling from the sky in many years. All I see are bruises where the dawgs have been on the receiving end of someone else’s hobnail boots.
A sorry state of affairs, and it’s all Richt’s doing.
Hunkers Gone South
September 13th, 2011
8:28 am
Murray holds the ball too long. He needs to get rid of it within 5 seconds. He’s the main reason (along with poor defense) that UGA lost to SC. He mishanded a handoff to Crowell,threw a pick 6,and got sacked & fumbled for a SC td. I want to see Mason or LeMay on the field.
Bulldog59
September 13th, 2011
8:28 am
Even loyal Georgia/Richt supporters are struggling right now. More importantly, my one solid source for info on the program says the contingent of supporters that the UGA administration listens to, the big money guys, are fed up, and some are calling already.
Unfortunately, this is a synopsis of Coach Richt’s fall from grace over the last several years:
1. Lost Van Gorder, promoted Martinez to a level he couldn’t handle. Stayed with him far too long.
2. Relinquished play calling. Bobo many times, like Murray, puts up numbers that look good on paper, but, in crucial situations, they both make poor decisions.
3. Loyalty to assistants and players has put the program several years behind, and undermines recruiting.
4. Recruiting has fallen off. Georgia used to be top 5 in recruiting almost every year. Look at the lack of depth at OL, RB, and LB. Georgia seems to always be deep at the DB position, but nowhere else.
5. Development of players has fallen off. Georgia has lost or dismissed some very good “on the field talent” in the last 4-5 years.
Although THE PLAYERS lost the game Saturday via the all-important “turnover,” it’s the last thing Coach Richt and Co. needed.
Most likely, Richt needs to win 9 of the final 10 games to keep his job.
Thomas
September 13th, 2011
8:28 am
Joe T and Joe Cox had a big role. Not having an established, seasoned quarterback the last three years has contributed to a number of losses. Also defensive scheme, though I believe the defense will improve this year. Pointed, logical discussion versus most of the idiots on this post….
UGASlobberknocker
September 13th, 2011
8:29 am
We have not been the same team with the same swagger since Bama came and beat us down in that black out game. They exposed the Dawgs , and burst the bubble for the fans and the players. The next week Tenn beat us just as bad..we have not recovered mentally or physically since those games.
Mtn Dawg
September 13th, 2011
8:30 am
I agree with you Chip. However, for me it is a hypothesis that has been tested and has been shown to be true. Granted a myriad of factors have contributed to the downturn but I believe, and I don’t think I’m alone on this, Bobo’s play calling has played the major role. Or, maybe the absence of CMR with his insight and experience on the offense.
That said, we’re going to run the table here on out. GO DAWGS!! GATA!!
firemarkricht.net
September 13th, 2011
8:30 am
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Loyal Dawg
September 13th, 2011
8:30 am
Most of the comments so far have been off base. This coaching staff has not gotten stupid overnight. Has everyone forgotten that CMR has beaten Saban twice? Once at LSU and once at Alabama. The problem is how UGA manages it’s scholarships folks. It shows up in what appears to be confusing inconsistency year to year.
RUSS
September 13th, 2011
8:31 am
THE OFFENSE IS JUST TO PREDICTABLE…I NO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO RUN BEFORE THEY SNAP THE BALL, SO I KNOW THE COACHING STAFFS OF THE OTHER TEAMS NO TOO…HOWEVER, THIS PAST WEEK THE COACHES COACHED AS IF THEIR JOBS DEPENDED ON IT. THE PLAYERS PLAYED WITH HEART AND TRIED MAYBE TO MUCH. THE STUPID MISTAKES COST US. I AM VERY PROUD OF HOW THEY PLAYED AND IT MAKES ME SICK TO HEAR MY TEAM BOOED BY SO CALLED FANS…I DONT CARE HOW BAD THINGS GET THEY ARE STILL MY TEAM AND IT DISGUST ME TO SEE THAT…TRULY THE DOWNFALL TO THE PROGRAM CAME AFTER THE WIN OVER HAWAII…THOSE WITCH DOCTORS PUT A SPELL ON US!!! LETS NOT GIVE UP AS A NATION, WHEN THINGS GET TOUGH WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR LEADERS. COACHES I AM BEHIND YOU A 100% I MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH WHAT YOU DO BUT I RESPECT YOU…GO DAWGS!!!!!!
Fred
September 13th, 2011
8:32 am
I know that “moral” victories don’t count but we were supposed to lose the first two games this year because the first two teams were #5 and #12. Despite being 0-2, there is something very special about this years team. They are hungry and seem to want to win. I still think that Richt kept Willie Martinez here way too long and it almost and still might cost him his job. Todd Grantham only has one recruiting class and our defense did not lose the SC Game for us; 4 costly mistakes did! Better days are ahead and we in the Bulldog nation must be patient. I know, I get tired of telling myself that but I really believe it is true!
JB
September 13th, 2011
8:32 am
I know some folks on here don’t think this is a big thing, as I’ve posted it before, but I think it say’s a lot. If you could watch our Staff on the sidelines ( the entire staff) the last 5 minutes of the Boise game and then watch the entire Auburn staff the last five minutes of their opening game against Utah St, you would be shocked. One staff not engaged and in despare, the other engaged, coaching, communicating…..big difference. I watched them both. You should also.
Rad Penties
September 13th, 2011
8:33 am
Will the dawgs be wearing their Nike clown costumes this week, or will it be their regular clown costumes with the red panties?
4 Jacks
September 13th, 2011
8:33 am
Chip, most all of mark Richt’s success at uga and I said most, not all can be tied to Brian Van Gorder. His defenses were always good to great, and even in “the day” Richt and his offense settled for far to many field goals. As soon as the players that Van Gorder coached left things have started coming apart. uga always has top 10 recruiting classes and gets less with more than any team out there. Also, face it the DC that you pay $750 thousand a year too was your what? 3rd or 4th choice and hows that defense coming along? I am sure Richt is an ok guy, but as shown in the past he does not know how to dicipline his teams for the most part and when 8 and 4 or 9 and 3 are acceptable year in and year out at Uga while others in the conference are competing for championships then someone needs to decide what uga wants to be…after all they have a bigger advantage than any school in the SEC as far as recruiting base and money and resources so why do they not compete anymore. Oh where are you BVG….Richt needs you to bail him out.
tndawg
September 13th, 2011
8:33 am
simply put….I think it all started down hill when we lost VanGorder!!
Delbert D.
September 13th, 2011
8:34 am
Recruit some kids for whom everything didn’t come easy in high school, high character guys who bust their tail every day to get better.
john mceachern
September 13th, 2011
8:34 am
I support Richt for too many reasons to state here. What would happen if more guys elected to complete their four years? Very few senior leaders. Boise State was loaded with 5th yr. guys. Cerebral game now. Our guys can only get that with experience and years played.Intensity! That’s what he can do as a substitute for above.
Loyal Dawg
September 13th, 2011
8:34 am
Comment about Murray is completely wrong. OL has to give Murray enough time. Murray didn’t have 3 seconds, much less, 5 seconds to throw on the play he fumbled in the 4th quarter before Clowney was in his face. Left tackle let Clowney go inside, across his face, untouched. How does the Senior tackle not understand to find Clowney in that situation and at least lay a finger on him. A freshman I could understand, but now a senior. Murray is not the problem.
My $.02
September 13th, 2011
8:35 am
Team has lost it’s way for many, if not all the reasons listed above. Job is not getting done. I think we need to find a way to have more 5th year seniors on the team than 5 star recruits.
But if you are looking for turning points, why not consider the retirement of Larry Munson. I think we are 19-15 since Larry left the box. Perhaps he was our good luck charm?
still a dawg fan
September 13th, 2011
8:36 am
The defense is where we have declined the most in the last 4-5 years & it started when Van Gorder left.
roughrider
September 13th, 2011
8:36 am
Well coached teams do not turn the ball over 4 times nor does their defense give up 40 points a game.
UGAJD
September 13th, 2011
8:37 am
@FLA DAWG – The D played pretty well against S. Carolina. USC scored 28 points off turnovers and the fake punt. The problem lies much deeper. To be a consistent winner requires a certain mindset, and a certain discipline, and UGA just doesn’t have it. I hate to say it, but I don’t see how the ship is righted without a change at the top.
Cecil34
September 13th, 2011
8:38 am
Perhaps Richt and Co. believe they are playing against Georgia Tech every week.
VINCE
September 13th, 2011
8:39 am
Its been the same for 100 years—-To win in the SEC, you need 1–A dominant running game 2–Good defensive play 3–Good special teams play. ASK ANY GOOD SEC COACH!!!
DawginLex
September 13th, 2011
8:39 am
You can’t blame this on any one thing.
You can blame this on one person and that is Coach Richt because he is the Head Coach.
1.)Brian Van Gorder leaving
2.)Not hiring a competent replacement for BVG
3.)Not having discipline enough 5 years ago the way we do now.
4.)Not calling his own plays
In my book, # 4 is the key. Each coach has to have his own identity and in turn, that gives the team an identity. We got used to seeing Richt tell the play to the QB on the sideline. Now he stands on the sideline with his headset on.
It may be more perception than reality but the results are obvious.
Walk this way
September 13th, 2011
8:39 am
Sorry Richt fans, but it is time for a new direction. As a person of integrity, Richt is tops, but has been unable to take the superior talent he gets and do anything with it. Penalties, trouble with the law, etc. demonstrates the total lack of coaching discipline these players need. We need “change we can believe in”. (Football, NOT president). UGA fans are weary of being mediocre, at best, with a coach who has been here for almost 10 years. Fans would be willing to tolerate the team’s recent performance if it were playing under a new coach. Richt has had his chances, and has not come through. It is time to move on.
OhioDogFan
September 13th, 2011
8:39 am
Have been a UGA fan since moving to ATL in mid 90’s. Don’t have the long history many of you “Fans” have. Last year…and the Boise game….has been frustrating. But to all those barking for a coaching change, be careful what you ask for. Numerous schools (see Tenn) have struggled for years after firing their long term coach.
Who’s to say that Dan Mullen (he too lost a game MSU should have won Sat) would jump at the UGA oppty? Bottom line…….change for changes sake is not always good (White House).
Let this season play out. Saw great deal of promise Sat. If the Dawgs finish 8-9 wins, with the young talent they have, life in Athens will be good again!!
David
September 13th, 2011
8:39 am
ROUGHRIDER…..CORRECTION…DEFENSE GAVE UP 17….OFFSENSE AND SPECIAL TEAMS GAVE UP 28
I have a peace about it
September 13th, 2011
8:41 am
Am I, Coach Mark Richt, the only person in the state of Georgia who gets it?
Look, you guys hired me at a point in time in which the SEC was in a state of disarray. For the past 5 years it has been assumed that the SEC Champion would play for the BCS National Championship. That was not the case when we won the SEC Championship. That was not the case for an undefeated Auburn team in 2004. Back then, USC was the team that everyone assumed would play for the NC. The opponent was typically the winner of the Big 10 or the Big 12.
Things have changed. Things always change. Who would have expected Tennessee to falter as a contender in the SEC East? And yet, they did. Not only that, UT put up with the downturn for far too long because they felt a sense of loyalty to Coach Fulmer. Florida didn’t hesitate when their program fell flat. They said goodbye to a HC that had recently taken them to 2 BCS NC’s.
And so, here we are. The SEC is currently the acknowledged premium football conference in the nation — and we are still Georgia. If you guys don’t like it, then grow a pair and fire me. Otherwise, give me a few more years and maybe the SEC will be down again. Then we’ll have another shot at winning the SEC Championship, although that won’t likely take us to the BCS NC game.
I have a peace about it. I think that you should too.
JB
September 13th, 2011
8:41 am
I had a friend of mine who is our Bulldog club president had a coach tell him that Rodney Garner is a big problem in recruiting, and most think he is the reason for our success in recruiting. Told him Garner has way to much final say in the ‘type’ player Georgia goes after and will veto the pursuit of certain players. The Pollack types. The lunch pail types.
Douglas Dawg
September 13th, 2011
8:41 am
Losing Brain V was a big hit and then slick Willie almost killed us…. no doubt we lost a couple years of competitive football during this debacale. I’m not a big BoBo fan but the stats don’t lie, we have scored a lot of points under his tenure…. Saturday was a well schemed plan in my opinion. I really hate losing, I mean really hate losing but we are close, AM is a true sophmore, IC is a true freshmen, young at wide out….. point is we are young at key postions. Is that an excuse, no we should not be young at key postions but we are. No doubt CMR let things get away and it was no easy fix…. We are still Georgia, still recruit well…. and we will rise again under CMR…. Go Dawgs!!!!
Loyal Dawg
September 13th, 2011
8:41 am
Bulldog59, seen my comments on page 1.
dmr
September 13th, 2011
8:41 am
If said it before and I’ll say it again. If you observe Georgia carefully, you will note that their is a missing synergy between the Offense, the Defense, and Special Teams. I said previously that in order to beat SC, Georgia would need to run high percentage pass plays and run the ball with balance, which to their credit they did. I also said Georgia should milk the play clock and game clock when on offense to give the Defense as much of a rest as possible.
Watching the game with a friend, when Georgia was up 6 – 0, on 3rd and 2, with the running game going good, I thought we should line up in a two tight end, power-I set and run the ball twice for a first down. This team isn’t good enough to win with field goals. In that instance, if you get a first down, you stay on the field, if not, you give SC the ball deep in their own territory.
Chip, you have nailed two major problems at Georgia in this article. One, you identified the fact that this major collapse has happened with Bobo at O.C. Two, you identified it, then backed away from it. Mark Richt has done too much backing away from the problem instead of attacking it.
Bobo is a Georgia guy and I get that. However, he was an experimental and unproven O.C. Georgia should NOT be a proving ground for the unproven. If Richt will not take back control of the offense, then he needs to hire a seasoned veteran with a strong track record in College Football.
I still say let the season play out because there is no team left on Georgia’s schedule they cannot beat. However, 3rd and 2…pass? 3rd and 18…draw play? Get the point?!
lawzoo
September 13th, 2011
8:42 am
Turnovers have been the key.
Past Time
September 13th, 2011
8:42 am
The Dawgs decline is irruftable. I trance the decline back a little futher, when although we were still winning, we were getting too many penalties, had numerous off field issues, etc.
I believe Mark Richt is a good coach, and can lead a succesful program. I also believe he has lost control at Ga. I believe the players (who are undoubtably talented) no longer know how to win. It isn’t their drive to succeed it is being shown what it takes to have a winning program. The problem is such that it is institutionalized now. The seniors are passing on what they learned to the incoming freshman. The message is simple: just being “okay” is “okay”. Listen to Murray after the game Saturday. Hear is the best QB in the SEC, basically saying “Leave us alone, we are doing the best we can.” That is not the same person that was on fire last year. It is fine to say that the game was tough, but that should be followed by, “we didn’t do enough”, “we made too many mistakes”, “that was NOT acceptable”, etc. Compare those comments to succesful progrrams. Their coaches, have a “come-apart” when they make mistakes, even if they are winning by 30 points.
I believe the only way to fix this type of situation is to replace managment. We need someone who will come in here, that will shake some things up. That will not tolerate mediocraty. We don’t just need “a few tweaks”.
Basically, I believe Richt canl be a great coach, but it will never be at Ga.
tndawg
September 13th, 2011
8:43 am
It’s still defense we need improvement in. We proved we could move the ball with the SC game. We have just given up too many points each game to be able to win. We need another VanGorder. He’s the one who brought in the hard hitters like Thomas and Blue…..remember how these guys played and really hit people!!?? I dont see Grantham making a difference!
WILLIAM MITCHELL
September 13th, 2011
8:43 am
you forget he lost Callaway the line coach ( produced all americans offensive line men) Lost Van gorda defensive cordinator. These are not easily replaced. These position have been a revolving door.
David
September 13th, 2011
8:44 am
So Chip….if you dont like a comment- you remove it?????? Ha…only took you a couple of minutes. It wasnt in poor taste…… but was calling you out.
Keep it short....
September 13th, 2011
8:44 am
My aching eyes. Jeez folks…can you please stop posting novels and keep it to one or two lines per post? I pretty much passed over the long posts…who has time to read all that – much less WRITE all that!
JB
September 13th, 2011
8:45 am
Hard for a CEO getting fired to convince his board that we didn’t make money because it rained everyday. The Chairman, if smart, would tell him, “It rained on everybody”.
observer
September 13th, 2011
8:47 am
The biggest problem at uga is unrealistic expectations by uga fans. Fans live and die with reports of recruiting a “dream team”, or how many “5 star” players they sign. A constant theme on this blog is that uga has “better players but can’t win because of coaching”. Many fans have said uga had better players than Boise and SC. You must be kidding, right? Do you watch these games? uga has very few players who could start for either of those teams. Did you see the SC defensive end/tackle just run away from uga’s 4 and 5 star DB’s on the fake punt return. Alot of uga fans would feel better if they just stopped listening to the recruiting class hype and be realistic about what you are. uga is a one of the SEC have-nots; not an elite program.
Joe D.
September 13th, 2011
8:47 am
I guess the Bulldog Nation got just a little too excited about a BCS bowl win over Hawaii…You should have realized how lucky you were to be playing in that game to start with (did not win SEC East) and should not have blown the victory over the “Rainbows” out of proportion, as much of the national media did picking the Dogs preseason No. 1 the next year.
In_the_cellar
September 13th, 2011
8:47 am
Remember Dawg fans, it is not about winning but how much you make playing the game. After the coach gets his mulitmillion dollar salary, he spends much more time planning his days after football. Maybe it is sooner than later. Ok so all the winning numberas against other teams in the SEC are diminishing, we will start over all even and such. It is only fair!
JB
September 13th, 2011
8:48 am
All these reasons are great…………..but, you win or get fired…pretty simple. The road going there really doesn’t matter……Just win Baby.
HangInThere
September 13th, 2011
8:48 am
I think they definitely started to slide after BVG left. I think you could also throw in the loss of a significant number of players through injury, grades, discipline & the NFL during this time.
bdawg
September 13th, 2011
8:49 am
BRIAN VAN GORDER!!! Ever since he has left we have not be consistent on defense. I also think we won in the early 2000’s with lesser talent than we have now. Bunch of guys that were under the radar in recruiting but had great heart. Now it seems we have 4 or 5 star guys that don’t know how to finish a game off. Seems like every ga game for the last 4 or 5 years is frustrating. We make something good happen, and with in 5 mins we blow it and lose momentum. The dawgs can’t have something good happen and then build on it. Saturday was a great example of this. When the offense is bad the defense is good. When the offense is rolling, the D gets soft or the special teams does something stupid. Uga can’t stand prosperity
Elliott
September 13th, 2011
8:49 am
In think it’s simply been some bad luck. While play calling plays a part, it’s no coaches fault that we lose 4 games at least last year cause of fumbles and bad holding calls on the goal line or in the last minute. Throw in those types of timely mistakes this year against USC and there’s another loss… I don’t care if Lombardi is the coach, he can’t make Crowell, ealey, king and Murray not drop the ball. On top of that the awful calls like the celebration at the end of the lsu game and the fantom offside on the onside kick…. Not saying we should be undefeated, just saying if we catch some better breaks that coaching can’t help, no one’s talking about getting a new coach… In the mean time let’s throw the ball more than 10 times in the 1st half…
tndawg
September 13th, 2011
8:49 am
Yeah…I will make it short…Call VanGorder!!
JB
September 13th, 2011
8:50 am
No observer………The problem is not winning. The expectations ought to be the SEC title every year, and then the BCS will take care of itself. See last 5 National Champs and tell me what they have in Common………..I’ll give you a hint…..they were all SEC CHAMPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7576DAWG
September 13th, 2011
8:51 am
All of the reasons have been covered in the first 2 pages. The only other one that I can think of is when Evans was AD he was there for show only. Without a real AD there was nobody to evaluate CMR and his coaches in a unbiased manner. All Evans cared about was that the UGA program was in the top 3 in net profit.
We have some decent coaches but when they were made coordinators it became too much for them to handle. Bobo and Garner are good coaches but as Coordinators the responsibilities are way over their heads. Grantham has only one year with his recruit’s so his fair evaluation want come until next year, that will give Grantham 2 years with his recruit’s to see if he can handle the coordinators job.
All my faith is with McGarity. He comes from a winning program and he knows what it takes to be in the top ten , every year.