Georgia TE Orson Charles cleared by NCAA on Miami matter
ATHENS – Neither Georgia nor tight end Orson Charles will face any NCAA repercussions with regard to Charles’ inclusion in the Yahoo! Sports report on a rogue Miami booster he is alleged to have met during recruiting.
So says UGA in a brief statement it released about the situation late Wednesday morning.
“The University of Georgia is aware of the article mentioning Orson Charles and has been in communication with the NCAA. There are no issues with UGA or eligibility issues with Orson Charles. UGA will have no further comment regarding this matter.”
Georgia contacted the NCAA shortly after the Yahoo! Sports report was published online late Tuesday. Charles, a junior from Tampa, was listed among recruits alleged to have had had impermissible contact with notorious booster Nevin Shapiro in 2008. The report said Charles, then a rising senior at Plant High, was taken to Shapiro’s home by a Miami assistant coach to be given a “recruiting pitch.” Charles signed with Georgia in February of 2009.
Shapiro, who confessed to providing benefits and services to dozens of Miami players and recruits, is incarcerated in Atlanta following his conviction on fraud charges connected to a $930 million Ponzi scheme.
Charles, a preseason All-SEC selection, is expected to be one of the Bulldogs’ main offensive weapons this season. He had 49 career receptions for 796 yards and five touchdowns.
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Dave in Buford
August 17th, 2011
2:49 pm
You know what the “N” on Nebraska’s helmet stands for, right? knowledge………….
Gay Dawg
August 17th, 2011
2:49 pm
I agree. A good tightend should get in there and root around and wrestle big uglies to the ground.
Atlanta87
August 17th, 2011
2:50 pm
Amen @ BigTimeTechFan
Prozac Dawg
August 17th, 2011
2:50 pm
The first play I want to see from the Daws O is Samuel right up the middle (just for you Gay Dog) for about 25 yards. Then 2 pass plays and another run by Samuel for a 12 yard TD. That’s what I want to talk about. Then the next week we will deal with the Columbia chickens (you know the kind that doesn’t have feathers on their head).
Johnson, The Tech one, not yours
August 17th, 2011
2:50 pm
Gay Dawg. Did you play Tightend or wide receiver in high school?
AltamahaDawg
August 17th, 2011
2:52 pm
mm, aside from you copying that verbatim from some other troll on the earlier blog.
Would “since” cover the period from the point she received the money until her death?
Gay Dawg
August 17th, 2011
2:53 pm
I agree Prozac. Let Samuel poiund it right down their throats until Boise is out of breathe, Then we take our tightends and split them out wide.
Wolfman
August 17th, 2011
3:02 pm
@AFDawg: Maybe so but it seemed a little strange that he tried to keep it a secret.
Toccoa Dawg
August 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
Great news for OC. oh and people that Nebraska idiot was outed as a techie another blog last week. ajc should really do something about these trolls, they have their email accounts.
But, getting back to the article this is great news for OC so he can just get back to playing football. Nice direct action from UGa nipped this one in the bud.
Kiss The Ring
August 17th, 2011
3:10 pm
I like how UGA is 100% trusting when their complaince dept says all is well, but AUs complaiance is covering up a amjor Cam Newton scandel. LOL!
BigTimeTechFan
August 17th, 2011
3:11 pm
@SEC Football News APP:
“It appears from Georgia’s press release that Orson Charles did nothing wrong. Translated that means UGA officials met with Charles and what he told them did not appear to be breaking NCAA rules. ”
Sounds like the case, only problem is this is the same thing Tech did. yet NCAA said Tech did not cooperate because they talked to the players involved by fore NCAA ruled and were told by NCAA they could not talk to players. I don’t have any issue with what UGA did, just why would NCAA allow UGA to talk to their players yet when Tech talks they are slapped by NCAA.
Just saying because it comes accross like Tech is the only school not allowed to talk to their players in a case like this. UGA, UNC, Bama, Auburn, LSU in recent cases have all had internal investigations and spoke with player before NCAA ruled.
I get it, Tech players should not have taken the gifts, it was to borderline so I see issue there, but have yet to understand why Tech could not talk to players involved when it seems every other school does and I have yet to see NCAA code that states schools can’t talk to player under investigation.
McDawg
August 17th, 2011
3:12 pm
its great to be a georgia bulldawg fan!!!!!
Nevin Shapiro: SEC Schools Tied to Miami Football Scandal Will Dodge Bullets at hoops227.us
August 17th, 2011
3:15 pm
[...] has been cleared by the NCAA, per the AJC. [...]
SC Dawg
August 17th, 2011
3:19 pm
Gay Dawg: “A good tightend should get in there and root around and wrestle big uglies to the ground.”
“Let Samuel poiund it right down their throats”
“Then we take our tightends and split them out wide.”
_________________________
Damn, man.
BigTimeTechFan
August 17th, 2011
3:20 pm
I do think that if any Miami Coaches were involved, and it sounds like they were, they should be banned from coaching in NCAA and High School.
That may effect some other schools.
Kiss The Ring
August 17th, 2011
3:21 pm
Do you disagree SC Dawg? I mean we have been panty waste too loing at UGA. We need to be a running team that defenses fear. i am tired of us being the nancy offense. I think our new OL coach will take our line and make them trade their bonnets for jock straps.
@bigtimetechfan
August 17th, 2011
3:26 pm
A little more to it than that:
The NCAA vacated the final three games of the football team’s 2009 season – a loss to rival Georgia, the Atlantic Coast Conference championship win against Clemson and the Orange Bowl loss to Iowa – for using an ineligible player. It was the Yellow Jackets’ first season under coach Paul Johnson.
The NCAA said Georgia Tech should have declared receiver Demaryius Thomas ineligible after he accepted $312 worth of clothing in 2009 from former Yellow Jackets quarterback Calvin Booker, who was working for a sports agent at the time. But the investigation took a harder turn against the school when athletic director Dan Radakovich broke NCAA rules by alerting Johnson that Thomas and safety Morgan Burnett would soon be interviewed.
It seemed obvious to the NCAA that Thomas and Burnett were told to prepare answers to questions they would be asked during the interviews. In its 26-page report, the NCAA wrote that it decided not to make a finding of its interview with Burnett after he “consistently denied” accepting free clothing. The NCAA committee on infractions wrote, however, that a violation occurred in regard to Thomas.
“The staff members provided, before the NCAA could conduct their interview, information about what would be discussed in the interview,” NCAA committee on infractions chairman Dennis Thomas said. “These actions impeded the enforcement staff investigations and hindered the committee in getting to the truth in this case. Otherwise, this case, as it pertains to the football program, would have been limited to impermissible benefits and preferential treatment violations.”
BG
August 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
Suck on that HATERS!!
Vince
August 17th, 2011
3:42 pm
If Tech can get burned for one player getting a watch and a shirt, the NCAA will soon take down the big money, win at any cost SEC. The NCAA hotline already had a major report on the Dawgs…more to come boys and girls.
BigTimeTechFan
August 17th, 2011
3:44 pm
This is the part I don’t understand
“But the investigation took a harder turn against the school when athletic director Dan Radakovich broke NCAA rules by alerting Johnson that Thomas and safety Morgan Burnett would soon be interviewed.”
How do other team hold internal investigations without talking to players or letting the coach know?
@Vince
August 17th, 2011
3:47 pm
I understand your despair, but if you read the NCAA response to Tech’s penalty, it was harsh because the NCAA felt like Tech was trying to cover it up. Need to point out also that the NCAA penalty vacating Georgia Tech’s final three games only had a negative effect on only one game ( Clemson), since Tech lost the other two games ( Georgia, Iowa ). Of course, it did cost them the ACC championship.
DawginLex
August 17th, 2011
3:50 pm
NCAA hotline vince?
And you have access how?
Desperation on your part and a joke to actually post that comment.
Gay Dawg
August 17th, 2011
3:50 pm
Its disgusting how these guys take players to disgusting strip clubs. I mean how naked women come into swaying a recruit I will never know. Sheesh!
slydog
August 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
To Mr. Kiss The Ring…. I bet you that you will never post on this Blog again if OC gets drafted ahead of Lutz. Will you take this challenge? If he is better, the pro scouts will know for sure.
BigTimeTechFan
August 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
@Vince – Thanks, yea guess I should just move on.
That Clemson game is huge for Tech = ACC title. Anyway players should have know better.
funny thing is just this week Miami coach sent out email telling player to watch out for this kind of stuff, it stated they don’t want to end up like “Georgia Tech and Ohio St”.
Now look at Miami
headley lamar
August 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
How do other team hold internal investigations without talking to players or letting the coach know?
By interviewing the player when the coach isn’t around.
Kiss The Ring
August 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
Slydog…you are basing the players ability on draft position??? How about we base it on touchdowns, go ahead late in the game touchdowns….or even better…national championship rings?
slydog
August 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
and yes I am joking, but let’s keep it real.
cattle country
August 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
How does that statement about nebrasks go again? Only thing from nebraska is steers and hmmmmmm I’m too genteel to finish that but we all know big 10 chumps son’t have no horns
Kiss The Ring
August 17th, 2011
3:56 pm
Sly dog…how about basing it on how many 1000 yard rushers the TE blocked for? So far Lutz has blocked for 3.
BigTimeTechFan
August 17th, 2011
3:58 pm
@slydog – Go by performace in collage, NFL is whole different ball game. useing NFL draft as standard would say Jamarcus Russell is best QB.
slydog
August 17th, 2011
3:58 pm
Why not base it on draft position? The BETTER player gets drafted higher. Bottom Line. OC plays in a pro offense. Most spread TE end up as H-Backs in the league, which isn’t 1st round material. The only effective Hback in the league is Dallas Clark. Who is more Dallas Clark-esque ? Lutz or OC. And yes, I do love the way Lutz plays but I have to be realistic too.
headley lamar
August 17th, 2011
3:59 pm
I like how UGA is 100% trusting when their complaince dept says all is well, but AUs complaiance is covering up a amjor Cam Newton scandel. LOL!
Totally different situations. Last I heard nobody ADMITTED shopping Orson Charles around for 180,000 dollars.
The NCAA already knows who the bagman was between AU and Papa Newton. They are just building their case.
Ive said it before. If you believe Papa was shopping Cam around for 180,00 to Miss St and then he just ended up at Auburn for free you are one of two things.
1. An Auburn homer
2. A fool.
Either way Cam will have to give back that Heisman just like the laptop he stole.
headley lamar
August 17th, 2011
4:00 pm
Sly dog…how about basing it on how many 1000 yard rushers the TE blocked for? So far Lutz has blocked for 3.
Those guys are a dime a dozen.
The NFL wants guys that can stretch the middle of the field. Thats Orson Charles.
Kiss The Ring
August 17th, 2011
4:02 pm
Headley….you can dream but while your are waiting for us to give back the rings..you can still kiss them.
Somebody Step Up!
August 17th, 2011
4:02 pm
As much that has transpired on our campus since the Winter of 2010, I am on a wait and see approach to our season. The number of players that have graduated or finished their eligibility( a very big difference) , the premier players who have left school for the NFL draft, the dismissals, the transfers and now the injuries, we have a great deal to be skeptical about.
We should be better prepared on defense in Granthams second year. I did not say a better defense, but better prepared.
We should be a little less on offense due to losses of our best playmakers and injuries to our offensive linemen.
We should be better on special teams with our All Americans returning.
The difference is our schedule. We are very much in the best position on the schedule front. We do not play the big 3, LSU, Alabama and Arkansas, and we have the next best teams at home and at a neutral location( MSU, Auburn, Florida). Our sneak up games are Tennessee and Kentucky.
The Boise St. game will add pressure to us with USC up next. USC should be the preseason pick, they won it last year and have a great deal of talent returning. Until someone knocks them off then they deserve to keep the bullseye on their back and off ours.
OC may have been involved, but unless evidence is presented to the SEC and NCAA that indicates someone knowingly, and actively took benefits then it is another case of “he said, he said, she said”
Keep the bullseye off of us and let us try and sneak around early to build some momentum. If we go in a do not compete at our level the first two games then I will glad to jump on the firemarkricht.net bandwagon. But until then, unlike some of the other UGA graduates(like me) or sidewalk fans posting unflattering comments on here prediciting dominance, I will sit back and wait till kickoff in the dome and at home against USC in my 30 yard line seat that I have kept for the past 20 years.
Time to kick this off and to stop smack talking until we do something against a good team. Does anyone realize our last win against a winning team was practically over a season ago? Lets let our play on the field do our talking.
One more comment. If the numbnut who sits behind me at home games barks in my ear after the kickoff for the entire game, I am going to make sure he is unable to speak again all season. I paid hard earned money to enjoy the game and not hear some drunken so called fan bark the entire game.
slydog
August 17th, 2011
4:02 pm
One cannot tell if any player will be successful on the NFL level, let alone college. How many 1st round busts and 5 and 4 star busts are out there? If the draft was today, who gets drafted higher based off potential? Lutz or OC? C’mon, let’s look at this rationally. Me, personally, would prefer Lutz, because I like smash mouth play, but I could not deny OC. He has higher…”upside.” We all know the game about upside…lol. Lutz is already a finished product.
headley lamar
August 17th, 2011
4:02 pm
Like the NCAA told Gene Chizik.
“We will tell you when we are done and we are not done.”
If you can read between the lines they are also saying ” And when we are done your not gonna like it “
Kiss The Ring
August 17th, 2011
4:03 pm
The better player gets drafted higher???? HAHAHAHA. Hilarious. Orson may go on to be a hall of famer but as of right ow give me Lutz over Orson every day and twice on Sunday. Classic UGA logic.
Basing the worth of a player on draft position…..too funny.
headley lamar
August 17th, 2011
4:04 pm
Headley….you can dream but while your are waiting for us to give back the rings..you can still kiss them.
So you believe Cam was going to Miss St for 180,000 but then decided to go to Auburn for free?
Its a simple question. Yes or No.
Kiss The Ring
August 17th, 2011
4:04 pm
Headley….again…when the NCAA finds something I will gladly concede The Ring, but until then go ahead and pucker up. LOL!
Kiss The Ring
August 17th, 2011
4:06 pm
I beleive if Au had paid Cam then Cam would not have played against UGA. You can try with all your little heart to wish away AUs title, but I can tell you there are better things to do with your life the hate on champions.
headley lamar
August 17th, 2011
4:06 pm
The better player gets drafted higher???? HAHAHAHA. Hilarious.
Typically that’s the way it works yes.
slydog
August 17th, 2011
4:06 pm
And as far as Cam goes, Auburn didn’t pay him. It would not have made sense to pay an unproven talent 180,000 dollars who was charged with theft by receiving, academic suspension, and played at a JC. WHY PAY HIM THAT MUCH WHEN YOU CAN GET 10 PLAYERS FOR THAT PRICE? I’m a Dawg thru and thru but Slydog has to keep it real.
Gay Dawg
August 17th, 2011
4:07 pm
Orson is much better then Lutz…have you seen the arms on Orson? Lutz is a little doughie. I like strongly buillt tight ends.
headley lamar
August 17th, 2011
4:08 pm
I beleive if Au had paid Cam then Cam would not have played against UGA. You can try with all your little heart to wish away AUs title, but I can tell you there are better things to do with your life the hate on champions.
So your answer is no. He was going to Miss St for 180,000 and at the last minute switched to Auburn for free.
Thats your answer.
Just making sure.
slydog
August 17th, 2011
4:08 pm
As soon as the combine and pro days are over, we will see….lol
Kiss The Ring
August 17th, 2011
4:09 pm
I think the AU title has really hurt the feeling of UGA. I mean I have never seen haters come out of the woodwork whining like UGA has. I enjoy listening to the whining. Its so funny how UGA feels left out now that there last champinship was 31 yearsago.
That 1980 championsip was a joke. UGA has the easiest schedule to a title i have ever seen.
slydog
August 17th, 2011
4:09 pm
And I HATE DAN SHERIDAN. Please find an Updyke and poison this fool.
Kiss The Ring
August 17th, 2011
4:10 pm
If Orson getting drafted higher makes you feel better….go ahead. I am okay with Lutz getting a BCS title and getting drafted lower. You win! LOL!