UGA’s Orson Charles mentioned in report on NCAA violations at Miami

Not again….close to first?

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I have to agree with UGA Class 14…the story “implicating” OC says a whole lot of nothing. I think if Orson did anything inappropriate he would probably be a Hurricane…really wish “reporters would leave players alone unless there were any direct allegations…just sounds like name dropping from a bitter crook to me.

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Not too worried, but I would be a bit concerned if I was a Bama fan. Sounds like this is just the beginning of a big mess for Pannunzio and Stoutland. They may not be involved, but at the rate the NCAA works… it’ll linger on and on and on…

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JE- Where does Towers imply that Orson Charles took any part in this. ‘it doesn’t look like he is anything but a bystander in all this.”

Maybe you should actually read the article before jumping to accusations.

I am happy to see AJC report about it, because everyone else is.

“Shapiro said he gave money, cars, yacht trips, jewelry, televisions and other gifts to a list of players including Vince Wilfork, Jon Beason, Antrel Rolle, Devin Hester, Willis McGahee and the late Sean Taylor. Shapiro also claimed he paid for nightclub outings, sex parties, restaurant meals and in one case, an abortion for a woman impregnated by a player. One former Miami player, running back Tyrone Moss, told Yahoo! Sports he accepted $1,000 from Shapiro around the time he was entering college.”

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I have to agree with most here Chip! Why write about this now? Some of the crap you guys write about is pointless crap! Write about football, not OC’s name being mentioned by a convict or scooter accidents. Why not just wait until Wednesday to write about this anyway when you have the FACTS.

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Btw Joe for 3 , I doubt Chip needs you to defend him.

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Means nothing – next

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OC was at plant for a year that’s it.

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Shapiro’s story sounds like he telling the fuzzy truth but embellishing some of his recollections

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Once again, the AJC does it job and reports the BIGGEST College Football Story of the year that implicates( although minor) a player currently on scholarship at Georgia, two assistants at Alabama, players at Florida and yet a group of Georgia uniformed, we are victims, UGA does nothing wrong, the NCAA and SEC are always picking on us, the AJC is biased against us dumb fans and bloggers want the AJC to ignore the story.

Get past it dudes and just face the facts, the program at UGA has not been relevant in over 8 years and that was a minor blip on the radar screen and it has been over 30 years since a title was won. Even GT has won a title since then.

firemarkricht.net has a time clock running since the last title….how funny…

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Dawg1

August 17th, 2011
1:59 am
Means nothing – next

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Did anyone say it meant anything? Just reporting a story that is gaining traction. Once again, the AJC is forbidden from writing anything negative about UGA or implying anything or even reporting anything.

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RED DOG 77

August 17th, 2011
12:54 am
Bla, Bla Bla, Bla………Come on AJC, you guys can do better than this!!!……..If Orson Charles is at all guilty………so is the whole dadgum SEC……….I know we are what? 17 or 18 days from kick-off, but lets talk football not all this “grassy knoll” garbage…………Mabe when we kick the dang football to start the season………all this foolishness will stop. But I’m not holding my breath…………..RED

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Red Dawg, you are one of those fans I was speaking of above. The sports writers and reporters should only write positve articles, stay away from reporting anything that does not cast the No.1 party school, scooter wrecking, suspended license, helmet stealing, public intoxicating, hit and run, former Fulmer Cup trophy winning school as unfavorable.

I guess the AJC should not report any injuries suffered or lack of production by the offense or defense either.

You need to go back to UGA and hope the education sticks next time around.

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Wow, this makes USC and the Reggie Bush deal look like child’s play! University of Miami. The hero of Auburn Iniverstiy and what Auburn strives to become. The Miami in the middle of nowhere that can BOOSTER the best players in the land to hang with Bama!

On another SERIOUS note. Have you read the full Yahoo report? Man this was going on for 10 years and yes it is ALL true as there is confirmation and verification of every thing from one source or another and many times multiple sources and there will be more witnesses coming out, hundreds of them.

The thing that KILLS me is that they have this LEGAL program where if you DONATE so much to the school, you get to BUDDY UP with a player for the season and then get to expand from there as big as you want. I mean talk about inviting trouble by the NCAA! This is legal! Man this makes it so easy. I mean is this how Auburn has done it for 20 years too?

What also blows my mind is that no one checked up on the players ove all these years from the University. Not anyone in the athletic department, administration, compliance office or if they did they looked the other way. One person said something but it went nowhere and apparently the head of compliance did a background check on Shapiro, found out he was part owner of a sports agency and looked the other way. Coaches were involved too. In football and basketball. The NCAA compliance officer or whatever title he has that scolded USC when it was sanctioned, was at MIAMI while all this was taking place an now he works in compliance for the NCAA! ROFLMFAO!

Man this is just the tip of the iceberg! Read this LOOOOOONNNNNGG report on Yahoo sports! They did the investigation on Reggie Bush and broke it open too remember? This is significantly larger and involved players AND coaches over 20 years. Criminal activity, money, large gifts, plane trips for family, girlfriends, bounties on players(Tebow and that FL ST Qb that escapes me) I could go on and on and on. The bottomline is: Miami is in DEEP. Death Penalty territory and LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL IS A GIVEN. It is simlar to USC because they let agents on and out and run free at practice and in LOCKER ROOMS! At least this guy was booster, but he just buddied up was the next generation “LUTHER CAMPBELL” and hooked up the players with his PARTNER when it was time for the draft. HE WAS ALL OVER CAMPUS had picture with the president of the university. Man I could go on and on. Just read the article and lets not get any Miami recruits or players that leave because they might be wanting for us at UGA to “show them the money” too! Funk that! Hey Orosn might have taken something, who knows, or he just might have been invited to their patry to TRY to get him to come there. Shapiro did get in the the recruiting part too and tried to help get many players to down to Miami. It wa like a “LUTHER CAMPBELL VIDEO”! Pop pop that coochie pop pop that coochie baby! Jewlery, cash, cars, tickets, trips, prostitutes, strippers, whatever the players needed or wanted, they got it….. big time. Pop that coochie!

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“I’m somewhat hesitant to even bring this up…”

LOL. Sure you are.

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Hey Orson was named as a player who may have had a benefit, like a prostitute? hey that happens all over at most Universities Ok? They send these “pretty coeds” to show you around and “take care ” of you them there mouth happens to fall in your lap or something. So whatever it was I now this: It did not WORK cuz OC is at UGA!

Hey it is not AJC doing this, this is NATIONAL NEWS OK? Yahoo sports reported his name and did a lengthy investigation. I do not know if there is any verification or witnesses to OC doing anything wrong that was reported. This is ongoing so hey if Orson got a really good lap dance or was just at a party, he needs to come clean. Let me go back and see how the report said OC was involved.

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Now the NCAA is taking the advice and story from a convicted felon. During his free call he called the NCAA? I gave Doug Flutie 10 bucks for lunch money…..LOL How about writing an article on that…………………………SAD in all sorts of ways………………

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This 5′9″ sleaze says Orson came to his house and looked at his closet. Whoop-tee-freakin’-doo….

Just look at all them butthurt techie trolls trying to roll on this. Gives me great lulz pumpin’ through my veins.

Nothing will come of this – unless Orson lies like the treacherous Yechie players – which he will NOT do because he is awesome and tech lies and cheats.

LOL@ YECH and GO DAWGS!

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Wonderful.

I see the AJ-C has jumped right on this Orson Charles, as if we have to hold him out of the 1st two games vs Boise State and South Carolina, with Mark Richt’s “coaching staff” in the balance on these two games.

11-3 I still say we will be. Boise State is no match for our talent.

And, you all said, that Garcia is not Murray.

And, you all said how great we will be at tailback this season, and just who is it who is practicing to get his 1st college football tote ?

No one.

30 fumbles this season, putting the ball on the carpet and up for grabs, and we haven’t been any good at all teaching our offensive players how to fall on fumbles, either. Both how to hold the football and how to fall on the football, are not talents or gifts, but learned skills. We don’t know how to teach them.

Funny that Texas A and M cannot join The SEC. I love that with their Losing Record this entire Century starting 2000 (no, that is not 11 years ago we are talking about but every game from 2000 through today) against all 6 BCS Conferences, Navy has done better than Texas A and M. TV sets don’t turn on in Dallas or Houston to watch such Losing. SEC owns Texas A and M and always will with their 39 percent win percentage all-time in games vs The SEC. And, The SEC (and everyone else) always out-recruits Texas A and M in Texas.

Sort it out for us all AJ-C while once again you have posted not one subliminal phrase daily like this that Georgia tek is on back-to-back NCAA PROBATION repeat offender in FOOTBALL.

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Why do people keep whining about Jan Kemp? She was given a settlement and deposited it in the bank; And she has kept her mouth shut since. So much for the morality of her issue. There are at least 20 Jan Kemps at UGA now and at every single NCAA, NJCAA or NAIA school. Collegiate sports are used to pay for higher faculty salaries, research, overseas studies, buildings/ institutes and more bureaucracy. It can’t all come from taxes and donations. Get over it!!! Real Talk!!!

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Just tell them the truth Charles.
Sounds like a bunch of nothing, where Charles is concerned.
The NCAA is a scary unpredictable bunch though.

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Bull……his stories you may not trust but his documentation and subsequent player interviews and admissions will lather up the NCAA. NCAA will be eating their own young before this is over.

OC seems to be a bit player and for now , not in danger of suspension. That is my take of the article.

You folks lashing out at Chip misunderstand journalism. It is not their job as “beat writer” to write nice things about our team. Their job is to report the news as they see it. They are not paid cheerleaders in any city that has a football team!

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How can you blame Chip when the story is on yahoo? I for one am eager to hear O C is clear—The story mentions OC there is no reason to blame Chip for writing about it.

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P.S.

I guess the sports writer at the Gainesville (Florida) Sun is a bad journalist as well….because he wrote the same story concerning Patchan and Debose being mentioned by this sleaze bag. This is national news folks, no matter what team you pull for…and cannot be ignored, like the people associated with the Miami football program did.

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Chip handled this well. It’s already all over other outlets, what was he supposed to do, assume that his “blog” is the only source of news and sheild everybodies tender ego from this?

As far as any issues, I doubt this guy was handing out a sack full of cash to every high school recruit that was introduced to him. Sounds like Charles was as said a bystander in a Miami recruiting voilation.

What on earth was that Miami staff thinking?????

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The culture of sleaze and cheating continues unabated in Athens. There’s no end to it, is there?

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Whatever you do doggies, don’t let your AD tell Richt about the investigation when the NCAA comes sniffing around.

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Charles may be just an “innocent bystander” but this is just another distraction to a football team that lacks focus.

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What else did this “wronged” jail bird say?

Please carve it all in stone for easy reference. After all, why SHOULDN’T we all believe this convicted felon? I can’t think of a reason….

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I don’t think that any article alleges any particular amount of money that Charles was supposed to have received as a 17 year old kid, taken by his assistant coach to see a booster. I think the asst. coach is the one that has to worry about this. I don’t think Charles would accept money or gratuities from a Miami booster, and then suddenly change to UGA. He must have had UGA on his mind already, and there is nothing to suggest that UGA offered him any inducement that is considered illegal.
Anybody suggesting that UGA somehow offered Charles more money to come to UGA, or any renumeration at all, is the rumor starter, not the AJC.
Right now, you have the word of a bitter crook, sitting in jail and yes, he may have given some money to Miami players, but there is nothing in the Yahoo article that suggest that they have any such records for Charles.

GO DAWGS

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@T. Brown – Yeah it’s an AJC conspiracy against Ugag. I’m sure the AJC is still covering up JFK’s real killer. LOL.

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I’m a Dawg through and through, but some of you need to grow some thicker skin and realize that you are reading a NEWS publication. All of you who think the AJC has some of agenda against UGA need to take off the red & black-colored glasses. The sports page crawls with UGA fans, so they are going to write about anything UGA-related (good and bad) that they can. It drives traffic, comments, etc. Quit whining. Chip doesn’t say OC did anything wrong, but that his name came up in a HUGE Yahoo story.

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Yeah, so is the NCAA.

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From “The U” to “The Who”…

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I give up BuLLdawg, what DOES that tell you?

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The thing I would critisize about this report is that its pretty laking of some details the other sources have clarified.
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Doesn’t matter.

Charles may be innocent.

Still a distraction.

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The only thing mentioned was “impermissible contact” by the UM booster.

Basically, this would be the same thing if Nick Saban had impermissible contact with Isaiah Crowell. This might affect his eligibility at Alabama, but not at Georgia. Especially since he didn’t receive any benefit.

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Yes, we saw that The First time, 30 minutes ago. SC fan is concerned about our team’s focus. Got it.

And why would you copy that statement then make absolutely no connection with your point? Could you just not figure out how to tie in saying “Alshon” yet today, so you just picked something at random?

That is some serious just wanting to say something on a Georgia Blog you got going on this morning.

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Orson Charles is fine. This is completely a “media driven” story that keeps the conspiracy folks entertained that all college football is back room deals and money laundering.

When all the dust settles, Shapiro is still in jail for cheating and lying, and everybody whoever met with him gets their name tarnished.

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I think he just like how the boy’s name looks when he types it. Ohhhh Alshon. Nothing could be finer than my Alshon.

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Chip, Why would you even write this story? Charles did nothing wrong!!

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It will be interesting to see how Richt addresses this situation.

He might be able to clarify the lack of information that Yahoo posted.

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That retainer paid to UGA’s new attorney will be paying off…..should be resolved in short order.

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Nothing here but remember AJ sat our last year for selling a stupid jersey. Let’s hope Orson doesn’t sit 4 games while the NCAA looks into this. This does, however, explain why Robert Marve flipped on his commitment to Alabama and went to Miami instead.

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Orson Charles is a scandalous cheat! Get him off the team before he corrupts the others!!

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I have no problem with Chip reporting this. From what was mentioned, Orson Charles is guilty of being recruited. Since he didn’t actually go to Miami and that he doesn’t appear to have received anything from this scum bag (at least according to the evidence we just read) he’s fine. No reason not to report the story. This story is huge. Miami is going to get the Death Penalty.

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One of the coaches mentioned is now charlie Strong’s chief recruiter at Loserville.

Big Blue Nation is rejoicing up here

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And Georgia thought they got rid of all the negative “bad apples” from their team.

This tree keeps producing fruit.

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Laughter is heard all the way to The Dome is a complete moron! Just because he came to UGA doesn’t mean UGA gave him anything. If thats your argument then you are basically stating that all kids that come to UGA are dirty. Not cool you idiot! Doesn’t even let UGA fans know who his team is. Must be some one UGA destroys considering all his hatred for the program. Can’t be upset with Chip reporting this. The entire story is a very big deal and if Orson Charles name is mentioned (even if it wasn’t reported that he accepted anything) then it has to be reported.

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Come on, AJC. Charles crosses paths with this scum bag (thanks to Miami) during a single recruiting visit years ago, and it makes the front page on your website? Don’t you see why we think the AJC is just tripping over itself to hype any possible problem with the Dawgs, no matter how small? As for you, Dixie Highway, you are an idiot. Richt and UGA are so above board it is almost a model program for compliance, while other schools around it (Auburn, Tech, Miami, Tennessee, South Carolina) are all on probation or on the verge of it. Get real.

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About a mile from the Picadilly. It’s really a little farther, because Groh doesn’t like to get on the Interstate.

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re: “Write about football, not OC’s name being mentioned by a convict or scooter accidents.” — You’d end up with no coverage at all, it’s impossible to write about UGAg football without bringing up those things, unless you simply run the police blotter every week.

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Dang, these Ugag boys do get worked up about they football don’t they?

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If UGA fans say Auburn cheated because of what someone at Miss St tried to do for Cam Newton

Does the same logic stand for UGA and O Charles dealings with Miami?

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Hey, did I mentioned we rushed for more yards than Georgia last year in our game with them?
I had to look forever to find that stat in the AJC…..but there it was on page 7 C. Small print but a big deal around here.

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No D E, we’re just hoping that the same standard the NCAA applies to one school is applied equally to every school.

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It an AJC conspiracy agianst GT. Why didn’t they post that stat on page 1?

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pardon me, but anybody that thinks Yahoo is a news organization is a bonehead. Yahoo aggregates “content”.

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Wow, that “report” seems kinda crappy. It’s all heresay and no evidence. It just seems like this guy is trying to take as many people with him as he can. I don’t think Charles did anything, anyway, because he seems like too stand-up a guy to do so.

Let’s move on.

Go Dawgs!

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Never mind BTTF we’re already in deep doo over a couiple of shirts and a pair shoes. When are we going to learn to cheat with the likes of AU and UM? This is so depressing.

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I’ve offered Miami our Lawyer who handled our case with the NCAA, but his phone has been disconnected.

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ACC…………………ALWAYS CAUGHT CHEATING

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Hey Sam are you the guy on 960 the Ref sports talk radio in Athens? Can you get your buddy Dave Johnson to quit calling GT fans scum suckers? That ain’t nice thing for a famous radio personality to say.

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hammer time for miami and all-burn war hoggs————-just saying trolls

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if true, charles and the gaytor players named will be given suspensions by the ncaa.

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Orsons got some ’slpainin’ to do.

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Hey AJC……we’re over here working hard getting ready for a dust up with the Western Carolina crazy Injuns…….And this is the crap we have to read about??????

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It’s all heresay and no evidence. It just seems like this guy is trying to take as many people with him as he can.

Did you even read the report? They have pictures, phone records, admission from past players, admission from other sources, etc. What kind of evidence do you need? There may not be much on Charles but the entire report looks to be pretty solid.

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I think slydog (5:05 am post) may be on to something. It sure is a thought…….

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@2:02a.m. “Robert Marve graduated way before OC was there.”

Robert Marve did not graduate from Miami; he transferred. He is a QB at Purdue now.

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Hey Dixie Highway (7:27am post), I saw your name meantioned the other day in a blog by tide roll. With your logic I guess that means your a latent homsexual too.

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Take the fanboy goggles off. This guy is just as likely to be guilty as anyone else. You would think that Georgia fans should be used to their players being linked to trouble by now…

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Just finished reading the report on Yahoo. The “U” is in bigtime trouble. To much verifiable information he has. Some of what he says is so outlandish it is hard to believe, but he has banks records and multiple sources to back it up.

If I where a player who benefited from this and is currently in the NFL making millions I would be terrified that the innocent people taken by this guy in the Ponzi scheme will come and seek litigation against them. Much like the Wilpons, Mets owners, are going through with the Madoff deal.

The Univeristy of Miami is in tons od trouble. USC, Ohio State will look like Boy Scouts after all of this is said and done. The ghosts of SMU circa 1987-88 may be calling Miami very soon.

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The AJC is the biggest recruiting tool for Bama, Auburn, and Fl. It’s a shame the largest paper in the state doesn’t support the State University like other papers support their State’s schools. Read a paper in Birmingham, Orlando, Jacksonville, and you get none of this constant garbage you get from these incompetent writers the AJC has to offer. These guys get off on writing articles when UGA loses out on a recruit, or when something as minor as a kid getting thrown from a scooter. For grown men to get off on trying to smear a 17 or 18 yr. old kid is a testament to the character of these
writer’s. If you want to write a story, you should be writing about how corrupt both schools in the state of Alabama are. Bama hires a D.L coach that was fired by Clemson, and he has a long list of improper recruiting allegations against him, Now Bama hires as it’s O.L. coach one of the coaches that is in the middle of this scandal. And people wonder why Bama does so well in getting top players from florida to commit to them. Auburn, which is a disgrace to the SEC, hires Trooper Taylor whose name has been linked to several illegal recruiting violations while he was at Tenn, and now at Auburn. Ever heard of his “Pimp Mobile” the white limo where he entertains recruits with paid prostitutes. This has been well documented by 2 papers now. Even a top w.r. recruit from the State of Ga. mentioned the reason he picked Auburn was how well the coaches were at entertaining him on his visit. How can the AJC not write about these 2 outlaw schools? If the New York Times, and Yahoo Sports knows about these illegal tactics, it’s funny the writers for this paper have no clue of all of these stories. Good job once again AJC, but it’s only a matter of time before both outlaw programs are brought down. Wish these 2 schools would take their obnoxious fans and join another conference, so the SEC can try and gain some type of respectability back.

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My opinion, Charles most likely did go to Shapiro’s house. No flame intended. If a player on my favorite team was mentioned in the same context, I would conclude the same thing. You can’t pick and choose; you can’t say he was telling the truth when it fits your agenda and that he was lying when that would fit your agenda. You can’t have it both ways.

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I hope Richt suspend him for this!

Then lets him back.

Then suspends him for something else.

Then lets him back again.

Then suspends him for something else.

Then lets him back again

Then suspends him for something else.

Then lets him back again.

Then suspends him for something else.

Then lets him back again, makes him the leader of the team, and publically praise what a great kid he is.

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I guess all our Auburn and Cam Newton bashing is “coming home to roost”! “Big Dawg Eat: your logic is flawed. If 2 news papers are correct about Auburn and Alabama, then why can’t 1 news paper be correct about UGA!! DUH!

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@Delbert D.

Also, Orson Charles was going with Robert Marve’s sister at the time of his recruitment. Then, the thing with UM and Marve happened during his recruitment and we all new his was going to UGA after that, but he was favoring UM at the time. Not saying he is guilty of anything. But, everyone in FL knows how recruiting works in the state of FL and now the NCAA is starting to do something about it especially South FL, it starts when they are still playing little league football. So the culture is already there. Not saying all players are guilty, but when a player leaves South FL to play for a school outside of the state people wonder what he got offered to leave the state of FL.

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Laughter is heard all the way to The Dome :
Thought Tech was the school is trouble, in front of the NCAA..Knowing both coaches personally and having a son play for the Head Coach at Tech, I can tell you straight up that Paul Johnson ain’t a cheater…..Mark Richt ain’t no party to handing out money, and would turn in whoever was handing the money out when he found out about it….If he let an aide go at UGA over introducing someone to Hershel Walker in the Butts-Mehre building, you can bet Coach Richt wouldn’t be in on something like this, nor would he dream about it….Like him or not, he has integrity…He won’t risk his job over a football game….Our state is lucky to have Head coaches of integrity at UGA and Georgia Tech….. The Only thing I can say about Paul Johnson that is not good is that he owes me $5.00 from a golf bet from long ago…Think he spent my $5.00 on one of those big Cuban cigars…..

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UF has three current players involved in this.

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It’s one thing to have rampant speculations, but then some of you folks really take it a step further and draw conclusion that wouldn’t even make sense if all the speculations were true.

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Trolls everywhere! The Techies are loving this… for the wrong reason. Your big brother and Orson did not do anything wrong. If Orson was guilty, don’t you think he would be a Cane? The Virgins/Nerds should be happy this is happening to a division rival.

The reason Chip wrote this is because this is national news, people. I, however, tend not to believe convicted felons when they open their mouth… but it is Da U we are talking about.

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If he turned down Miami after this “recruitment pitch” and instead went to UGA…What was in the UGA pitch that made it better. Recruitment violations are rampant in all of the NCAA so I’m just sayin.

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Charles will be held out until something is resolved, just like UNC did w/it’s players. You can’t run risk of playing players who might be later judged as being ineligible (unless you’re OSU or Auburn).

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If Orson did indeed visit that Miami booster’s house for a recruiting pitch (why else would he go there?), what would be the repurcussions for him?

What would be the repurcussions for Georgia if they knew that Orson made this visit and still played him anyway?

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Real change won’t happen until university trustees, not just presidents, show they value the academic mission more than winning games.

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America — the only country in the world, by the way, with universities that sponsor commercial sports.

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You people amaze me. I am not a big fan of the AJC, but how can you blame them FOR REPORTING NEWS ABOUT A GEORGIA PLAYER who was mentioned in probably the biggest NCAA scandal, maybe ever. Whether he is guilty or not, it’s not the AJC’s fault for reporting what is a national story. Never once did I hear the author say anything about guilt.

Maybe my Tech friends are right about the Georgia fanbase. I have been a fan since watching Hershel vault over the lines for td’s when I was 6 years old, but when I see the sort of attacking, hyper, overactive imaginations by Georgia fans on this blog, it makes me wonder. Is football really that important to all of you? stuff like this tests my faith in humanity…

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The number of Georgia kids living in poverty climbed to nearly 570,000 in recent years with the state ranking among the worst in the country for overall child well-being, a new study shows.

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amazed @ 10:20……..What the Georgia people are amazed at is the attention this gets. At fla and bama, it’s a bump in the road, and you can bet fla nor bama will hold anybody out of a game over this crap. It’s Miami’s problem

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Illogical conclusion even IF the specualtion were accurate is exactly what you are doing Flaubert to suggest he should be considered ineligible.

Eligibility would ONLY be an issue IF improper benifits were accepted. nobody including the creep himself have ever suggested that. Now if that comes out, (despite not a evidence to suggest that) then yes, Orson Charles has broken his amateur status.

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I get nervous whenever closet and clothes are mentioned in the same sentence with NCAA investigation.

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One could gather that improper benefits were accepted the moment Orson stepped foot in the extravagant seaside mansion of that Miami booster.

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Hey, we got dead trees down here and all our Bag men in prison. You think you got problems?

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Our govt is as guilty as this Shapiro fella.

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The questions is what did UGA flash in front of him that made their offer more appealing? I doubt it’s titles or trophies.

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Does not sound like much. Hopefully players both at UGA and GT that were also being looked at by Miami did not do anything stupid. Just shows that these boosters are all over and if not for him spilling the beans the NCAA would know nothing. The NCAA needs to go.

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On could gather that Steve Spurrier is a drunk because he surrounds himself with them. You know, since we are just shotgunning wild conclusion here.

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Johnson, maybe you should serve fried trolls with the pickles. What is a troll anyway? I’ve heard of fried TWinkies. Think they serve them at Ugag home games.

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So patently apparent that the homeboys of the AJC want to point the finger away from the institute on North Ave. This is not newsworthy, fellas. Scramble around and find something of substance. This is like saying there’s a possibility that Alaska will be invaded by the Chinese tomorrow, but then again, maybe not. So sad. Reminds me of the classic Myrtle Beach sign: free beer tomorrow. AJC sports crew: your limp is showing, in a big way.

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Nothing Could Be Finer – Keep on holding your breathe in hopes that this is a violation… my guess is you will turn blue and pass out. You’re such a troll…

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slydog

August 17th, 2011
6:05 am
Why do people keep whining about Jan Kemp? She was given a settlement and deposited it in the bank; And she has kept her mouth shut since.

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Isn’t Jan Kemp Dead?

Pretty easy to stay quiet when you are taking the celestial dirt nap.

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If Jarvis Jones was ruled eligible, this situation pales in comparison.

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Does Lowder have a yacht?

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*breath

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http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/recruiting/player?id=59419&_slug_=orson-charles&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fcollege-football%2frecruiting%2fplayer%3fid%3d59419%26_slug_%3dorson-charles

no mention of Miami here

i do remember him breaking the crystal on his visit to Gainesville

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http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=8&c=1&nid=3628786

This one lists miami as “no interest”

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Maybe he wanted to play with Aaron Murray?

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AltamahaDawg

August 17th, 2011
10:53 am
So he should have said: “she has kept her mouth shut since, up until her death, when that can no longer be consider an action, which is pointless to say but nevertheless more tecnically correct”.

Would that have been better, Poindexter?

Just a real UGA fan would have known that the biggest scandal director at the UGA had died.
Just like punks like you who think that UGA is just a lily white program that only has a few bad kids come along but the program is so outstanding, the academics are above reproach and the white trash that attends games on saturday are just rabid fans, not graduates from the diploma mill business party school.

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AltamahaDawg

August 17th, 2011
10:57 am
Maybe he knew the rules about cash and bonuses and didn’t just automatically accept major cheating as a criteria for his college choice? Just saying.

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Absolutely the dumbest statement made so far today! Did the shortbus not run today and you had to stay home?

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Enter your comments hereJust making up reasons why UGA should win

August 17th, 2011
11:00 am
AltamahaDawg

August 17th, 2011
10:57 am
Maybe he knew the rules about cash and bonuses and didn’t just automatically accept major cheating as a criteria for his college choice? Just saying.

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Absolutely the dumbest statement made so far today! Did the shortbus not run today and you had to stay home?

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Why is this dumb? Because you say so from your perspective?

If this is dumb then your statement is just as dumb about the inference to a better offer from UGA.

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Classic AJC, while Tech’s headline is “Defense is getting tough!” and “OL making progress!” Rah Rah, Goooooooo TEAM!!!

- ours is “OC mentioned in Miami report” – even though there is no UGA implication and there’s no threat to OC’s eligibility in the report.

Classic.

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It’s “the dumbest” of the day, so I am msure you can easily explain how so.

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I’m not even going to ask you how you went from a joke, Does a guy even have to mention Kemp being dead to make the point he was making………..to I am a punk that thinks things are lilly white at UGA academic buildings. You know, because…..wow.

I’ll let that lil gem just hang out there and speak for itself.

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[...] CharlesAthletic director Greg McGarity said this morning that UGA “is checking into it.”Here’s how Charles was tied to Nevin Shapiro, the man who’s now ratting out Miami.The story does not suggest that Charles took any illegal [...]

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@Just making up reasons why UGA should win …hey tough guy you calling any one a punk is a classic example of pot calling kettle black..you trolling moron…its got to be a great trill to call folks names on a blog that you would never have the stones to do to their face…have a great day.

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The big story with Jan Kemp was the idiotic move by Fred Davidson to fire her because she was talking about stuff that nobody gave a rat’s behind about. HE made it a story, and the BS preferential treatment became the better angle to cover. Half you numbskulls that bring it up, don’t even know what the deal was about.

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Adawg..everyone reads your blog post on various articles. If you cannot be neutral and see the fact that UGA does have issues and the program is a lower mid pack team in the conference then sir you are just ignorant to the real world and to college football. We all want ANY SEC team to continue the streak of BCS TITLES and with UGA playing the weakest conference schedule we know that UGA has an outside shot. But with all the talent that has run the halls of UGA over the past 10 years not to have a title says alot about the program.

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HEY BAMA,
Bama coaches tied to ex-Miami booster
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6869434/report-two-alabama-coaches-involved-miami-booster

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WDE

August 17th, 2011
11:16 am
@Just making up reasons why UGA should win …hey tough guy you calling any one a punk is a classic example of pot calling kettle black..you trolling moron…its got to be a great trill to call folks names on a blog that you would never have the stones to do to their face…have a great day

You are just trash….ignoring you and your threats.

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Why did Orson agree to visit the mansion of a Miami booster?

We all know he wasn’t there to clean the pool.

He needs to be crystal clear to Richt about what really went on there.

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Yahoo sports Charles Robinson is not done yet he says there are several other programs just like Miami lets just face it college football is fixing to be exposed .

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Dawgin

Not saying he did anything wrong and in the common sense world he probably did not. But that is not the world of the NCAA. Today just the sniff warrants a sit down until we sort it out. Auburn took an incredibly huge risk with Newton and it worked out. Today the risk far outway the reward. In the end OC should have left the building as soon as he walked in.

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mike

I still say this pales in comparison to Jarvis Jones and he is eligible to play right now

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nah, it was more of those auburn boys making sure the 2011 fulmer Cup is won

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Another crooked UGA player.

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Flaubert, you get that Miami was the one who made the infraction , right. Charles is not ineligible becasue some school broke a rule in recruting him. Not sure why you think this invloves his eligilbility.

Do we need ot hold out Crowell? Richt broke a rule in recruiting him. Do we need to hold out any player that we reported making improper calls to during a dead period. THAT On the school. If Charles walked in the man’s mansion and looked at his stuff, THATs on Miami, not him. Let just conceed that he did, and it IS a voilation. That doesnt affect his status here.

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• “Orson Charles was a tight end out of Plant City [High School] who was Robert Marve’s teammate. And because I had a real close relationship with Robert, Robert’s high school coach, Robert Weiner, came to Miami, Marve brought him to my house and he was with Orson Charles. I showed [Charles] my closet. The reason why I show all the kids my closet is because that’s where I had like 50 to 70 UM game-worn jerseys of all the best players in the last however long. That was our first visit. I saw him a second time and I think it was a Miami football camp.”

I’d imagine the NCAA and UGA will look into how Charles made it to Miami to visit with this Shapiro. Sounds like he just tagged along with Marve, since it says in the report that “Marve brought him…” As long as Shapiro didn’t pay for him to get to Miami (no where does it say that he did) and as long as Charles didn’t take anything from Shapiro (no where does it say that he did), there will be nothing to this story. From just that statement alone, it seems like Miami is in a heap of trouble, but Charles did nothing wrong. Just my take…

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Troll city on here i am tired of the AJC and its UGA blog or anti UGA blog .

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No Bama Mike… Macel Dareus got a trip to Miami payed for. Airfare, lodging, etc. Much different situation if Orson Charles was brought to this house by his friend Marve. If Shapiro paid for the trip to Miami, then we may have an issue. The report didn’t sound like Shapiro paid for anything though… His contact with recruits as a booster of UM will put UM in hot water. But Charles and the other kids may have done no wrong by just taking a tour of the house.

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Are you all really that stupid? “Much to do about nothing” “Leave our players alone” “AJC just hates Georgia”. This is serious and if Orson Charles met this guy and as much as ate a bagel, he will be ruled ineligible. Georgia has to do its due diligence in order to make sure that Charles is eligible or it could jeopardize the entire team. You guys are such homers it is gross. And your team sucks!

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Altamadawg, reread my post. I didn’t say what OC did was a violation , I said “if it’s a violation…” and neither I nor you determine what is and what isn’t a violation. What’s wrong w/my logic?

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PR,

Not sure on how he got there. He did stay with friends. The one difference that I do recall was there was agents on premise. Fair or not it never looks good when the word implicated and scandal are in the same sentence with your name.

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Maybe Miami and Ohio state can have a post season game this year called the Ineligibowl.

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Big Ten Champs Nebraska… you just lost all credibility. You do realize Vince Dooley isn’t dead, right?

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It looking like its not going to be as bad as we thought we may get lucky here so keep your fingers crossed hopefully Jarvis Jones 2.0 .

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Bama Mike – This is how the Dareus situation is different than this issue with Orson Charles…

“In early September, the NCAA suspended him [Dareus] for the first two games of the season in addition to requiring him to pay back the $1,787.17 received in impermissible benefits to the charity of his choice”

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Charles not facing suspension it appears we might be in the clear thank god .

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PR

The two game suspension was for just being there. His elgibility for the remainder of the season hinged on the payback. OC can argue it happened years ago and he was only a high school junior. Darius was going into his junior year of college.

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Breaking News Orson Charles is cleared of any wrong doing Go Dawgs !

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You all think this is much ado about nothing as Charles did not sign with Miami…..Why is that? Because he got a better deal for signing with UGA?

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When did Bryant die?? Last I heard he was pumping gas in Conyers.

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@ Patrick…..You do realize it was a joke. You just perpetuated the stereotype of dumb UGA fans. Way to go.

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Hey Nebraska moron, you still want to compare Orson Charles to Lawrence Phillips?

Suck on that hater

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I ate a hot dog in Macon at the counter at Nu Way weiners with Bear and elvis last month

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Cali Dawg

August 17th, 2011
12:33 am
Not too worried, but I would be a bit concerned if I was a Bama fan. Sounds like this is just the beginning of a big mess for Pannunzio and Stoutland. They may not be involved, but at the rate the NCAA works… it’ll linger on and on and on…

Sorry Cali Dawg but Stoutland and Pannunzio are in their first year at Bama and were only recently hired in the offseason. Nothing for us to worry about except that Stoutland and Pannunzio may be in trouble personally. Worst comes to worse we may have to let them go but we will suffer no fallout as far as sanctions go. This is all Miami.

Charles is a different story. If he accepted any impermissable benefits he will suffer a couple of games suspension similar to AJ Green and Dareus.

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“Georgia is aware of the article mentioning Orson Charles and has been in communication with the NCAA. There are no issues with UGA or eligibility issues with Orson Charles. UGA will have no further comment regarding this matter.”

Ding, dong. The witch is dead.

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“The University of Georgia is aware of the article mentioning Orson Charles
and has been in communication with the NCAA. There are no issues with UGA or
eligibility issues with Orson Charles. UGA will have no further comment
regarding this matter.”

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Why is the AJC reporting the news about some criminal MENTIONING the name of a UGA player who has had an exemplary career at UGA so far. Florida had three or more players mentioned and Alabama had a couple of coaches mentioned. So far, there really is NO STORY; however, if such questionable reports are to be made, the AJC should be even handed.

For at least the past ten years and during many prior years, UGA has attempted to run a clean athletic program, unlike North Carolina, Georgia Tech, and Miami of the ACC.

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WDE

August 17th, 2011
11:28 am
@Just making up reasons why UGA should win …your a troll with the reading comprehension skills of a 4th grader, I despise you and your ilk for the keyboard hiding cowards you are..but I never threaten you….just pointed out your a coward and a moron..now run along

You wish you had my education, job, life and sports contacts. I guess you must be off today from your job patrolling the trailer park.

I will continue to point out blatant untrue statements and the biased posting of folks like you who never attend an actual game outside of your local high school team or your beloved bulldawgs home games when someone gives you a ticket. Doubt if you have ever paid for ticket or been part of an alumni association, and you relive your pee wee and jr high and high school days through your posting for UGA on these blogs. Have a nice day. You are one day closer to the beginning of the month when your next check arrives from the government.

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Bama Mike we all witnessed plenty of worry coming from that direction for the entire near-decade in which UA was the absolute laughing stock of the SEC. It’s only been a few short seasons since that hasn’t been the case. And now you have dirty coaches who’ve been exposed. Just when you thought you’d turned the corner. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose…

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@Tide Rising your HC just hired two guys directly linked to this issue and you think that won’t impact the Tide…do you think they were hired for their smiles? If they were doing the things at the U that they are alleged to have done and had such success doing those things that they get hired by Saban and Bama on what planet to they abandon their road map for success? I’m hoping that since its it their first year they have not YET done anything to bring the NCAA to bring more focus to the Tide than Suitgate is currently generating.

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PR

August 17th, 2011
11:47 am
No Bama Mike… Macel Dareus got a trip to Miami payed for. Airfare, lodging, etc.

PR,

Not quite. Dareus plane trip was paid for by a fellow recruit that signed with North Carolina. Supposedly Dareus paid him back cash immediately upon landing in Miami and he got a receipt from the player. The other recruit paid for the ticket because Dareus did not own a credit card. During the trip the recruit secured a hotel room for Dareus but Dareus stayed with his family because he is from Miami. Also when Dareus was brought to the party and realized it was being hosted by an agent he turned around and left. The NCAA made him pay for the hotel rooms which he didn’t use, possibly the airfare because he didn’t have the receipts, and also for what cab fare would have been and for meals of which he did partake. You should note that Dareus suspension was light because the NCAA said and I paraphrase ” Marcel Dareus was one of the most truthful and honest recruits we’ve ever interviewed”. He was very forthcoming about everything.

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“Georgia is aware of the article mentioning Orson Charles and has been in communication with the NCAA. There are no issues with UGA or eligibility issues with Orson Charles. UGA will have no further comment regarding this matter.”

‘Bout time for a new article, Chip. Put this one to bed so you can focus on a new one regarding the mess Bama suddenly finds itself in.

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DawginLex

August 17th, 2011
12:21 pm
you come on a Georgia blog and bash UGA and expect some of us to not respond?

How about this?

STFU

Lex…you are better than that…the STFU statement is just an indicator that you have no argument. I have read your post and for the most part you seem to get it, but be a man, make a statement , back it up with facts and we can move on. But making the STFU is so loserist. In court you would be held in contempt.

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When has Kneebraska accomplished anything of significance?

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Name one program in the SEC that has underperformed over the past 8 years than Georgia? One might say Tennessee, and they might be right. But overall the UGA program with NFL talent and this so called great coach everyone seems to think is god has been a major disappointment.

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WDE

August 17th, 2011
12:27 pm
@Just making up reasons why UGA should win sorry little fella that dawg won’t hunt, your education is limited as your the first one to resort to calling folks punks etc. Like most cowards you talk a great game, truth is I have a fine life, family and career and my health is pretty good too. I pity you I really do please get help soon for your anger and depression issues

Glad you are doing well in your own world, Congratualtions. Best wishes to you. I used the word “PUNK” when someone called me “son” and “loser” for pointing out real facts as reported in the YAHOO sports article.

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Brainiac(Dawg for life)
August 17th, 2011
12:25 pm

When has Kneebraska accomplished anything of significance?

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5 national titles to start. When has UGA accomplished anything of significance?

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AJ Greene was reported to be at a party in S. Beach last year.

He was cleared of that but the investigation exposed the jersey situation.

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Since when is a “Big 10 Champ[onship” anything to gloat about?

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Bama Mike: Where does Bama keep their “Red Elephants”?

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College football has always been this way. It is out of control and the NCAA (Without Subpeona Power) cannot control it. This type of crap goes on at every major college football program including (I hate to say it) UGA. I think everyone is just in denial! Without the internet and the free flowing information age we would still be clueless as to what goes on during the recruiting process. My personal opinion is who cares! I am just tired of reading about it. I just want to see the team I expect UGA to be play a game without losing a player to this type of BS! I thought AJ got a raw deal last year and you can probably blame that on our poor start. Someone needs to use 2 sticks of dynamite and blow the whole thing up and start over… New Conferences, New Rules, New Play-offs!!! Let the revolution begin!

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@Tide Rising that is my hope that they didn’t have time to do any damage..because I’m afraid they would. I have nothing to say about Cam and Auburn..too much said already.Oh and NCBF report just in NCAA has cleared Charles to play…

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Brainiac

With the gray Elephants in the paint shop. The “Roll Tide” can be found at White Water, Disney World and usually at any Georgia “Black Out” function or gathering.

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@Just making up reasons why UGA should win…just please get help I hear a tortured soul in need every time you post your pain is writ large on the page.

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Un-Tank

August 17th, 2011
12:21 pm
Bama Mike we all witnessed plenty of worry coming from that direction for the entire near-decade in which UA was the absolute laughing stock of the SEC. It’s only been a few short seasons since that hasn’t been the case

Un-Tank,

Being a charitable man I also feel I have the duty to help the truly ignorant like yourself. So lets begin. Bama was absent for a near-decade? Huh? Are you just stupid? The last year Bama didn’t go bowling was way back in 2003. In 99 we won the sec and went to the orange bowl. The next 5 years was well below Bama standards due to the probation of the early 2000s but even then we posted 10 win seasons in 02 and 05 including a Cotton bowl win over Texas tech. In 05 we also spent the majority of the season ranked in the top 5 including several weeks perched at no. 3. 06 and 07 were average years where we still went bowling. For the past 3 years from 08 through 2010 we have won 10 games or more each year, finished top 10, and have been ranked no. 1 in each of those seasons for several weeks at a time. You should learn some recent football history before spouting off at the mouth.

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Just making up reasons why UGA should win

August 17th, 2011
12:39 pm

My pleasure!

I know 90% of the people on here should be working and not raving about all of the hype that comes with College Football. However, we love it this way (at least I think so). We can gripe and complain about this all we want but do we really think it will ever change??? I really doubt it. Look at our government… It’s the same thing but just at a larger scale. There is WAY too much money involved in college sports (and government for that matter) for it ever to be fixed (at least in reasonable time frame). We only have ourselves to blame for all of this. If we (as fans) didnt pay for jerseys, tickets, beer, pizza and whatever else you can think of that drives a College Sporting event we would’nt even be discussing it. This is the monster we created I guess we just have to live with it.

SprayDawg Out!

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yes, I could have taken the 15 seconds to run an edit, but I didn’t think we had many old women in here today. So now which name are you using next?

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AltamahaDawg

August 17th, 2011
12:49 pm
NOPE , you call people “punk” because you get your panties in a wad if they made a joke at your expence.

(followed by some uncomprehandable rant about lilly white acedemics)

The you follew that up by saying thier very logical siojmple answer than you cannot dispute, is the “Dumbest of the day”

But youu justy keep on lecturing people about being a man, and how much better they should be than personal insults and over exagerated responses.

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get a life and move on……you are wrong once again and making excuses is your only game.

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Days since last champinship:
11185 Days, 00 Hours, 18 Minutes, 49 Seconds.

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@Just making up……. Do they have newspapers with sporting vents, blogs, etc,? With the lack of educated Ala-dam-bamians the answer is probably NO. Otherwise you and “Turd Roll” wouldn’t be spending so much tme on this one.

Your numbers in your 1:18 pm post are WAY OFF………………………..but we get your point.

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@WDE: Don’t be throwing a bunch of :”FACTS” into this mess and confusing the Red/Pink Elephants fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Just making up rea……… In your 12:36 pm post you listed several dates of Kneebrasska accomplishments. Go back and read it. ALL dates you posted were in the LAST CENTURY but we all make mistakes, typos, errors, etc.(Cept my man Altamaha Dawg). You probably already know this but when me and Altamaha Dawg go into Aladambama the average IQ of Red/Pink Elephant Nation be rising 10 to 20 points. Know whut I’m sayin?

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Yep he’s already been cleared of ANY wrong doing!!!!

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OK, best fish I ever cooked. Groh taking a nap after washing his down with some Ensure and before the fellows get here, gonna break down some Western Carolina film and watch us playing UGA last year and admire the rushing yards. Gotta go.

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lucky they didn’t bust him for not taking the SAT’s for himself, or maybe that will still come out… Go Gators!

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