UGA’s Orson Charles mentioned in report on NCAA violations at Miami

Georgia tight end Orson Charles has been mentioned in the mess that Yahoo! Sports is reporting about the University of Miami and its relationship with a notorious booster named Nevin Shapiro. Shapiro is a convicted felon who, in several prison interviews, claims he provided impermissible benefits to dozens of Miami players and recruits.

Charles is listed among those recruits with whom Shapiro claims to have had impermissible contact. But, on face value at least, it doesn’t look like he is anything but a bystander in all this.

The bombastic report, written by Yahoo! Sports reporter Charles Robinson, merely alleges that Charles was escorted by a Miami assistant coach to Shapiro to be given “a recruiting pitch.” As we all know, Charles rather famously signed with Georgia. Shapiro is incarcerated in federal prison in Atlanta after being convicted for his role in a $930 million Ponzi scheme.

Current and former Miami players and student-athletes from all over are implicated by Shapiro and other sources in the extensive report, which includes thousands of supporting documents such as bank statements, hotel folios, cell phone records and corroborating quotes from athletes. Here’s the specific passage in which Charles is mentioned (along with several other recruits):

Among the specific incidents, Shapiro or other sources say Hurtt, Hill, Stoutland, Pannunzio and Allen all delivered top-tier recruits to Shapiro’s home or luxury suite so the booster could make recruiting pitches to them. Among the players who were ushered to Shapiro while they were still in high school: Eventual Miami commitments Ray-Ray Armstrong, Dyron Dye and Olivier Vernon (prompted by Hurtt); eventual Florida commitments Andre Debose (Hurtt) and Matt Patchan (prompted by Stoutland and Pannunzio); eventual Georgia commitment Orson Charles (Pannunzio); and eventual Central Florida commitment Jeffrey Godfrey (Allen).

A hot-link on Charles’ name carries readers to a page that provides more details of on Charles and his encounter with Shapiro, including Shapiro’s account of the meeting:

“Orson Charles was a tight end out of Plant City [High School] who was Robert Marve’s teammate. And because I had a real close relationship with Robert, Robert’s high school coach, Robert Weiner, came to Miami, Marve brought him to my house and he was with Orson Charles. I showed [Charles] my closet. The reason why I show all the kids my closet is because that’s where I had like 50 to 70 UM game-worn jerseys of all the best players in the last however long. That was our first visit. I saw him a second time and I think it was a Miami football camp.”

Charles’ name is also on a list of players Shapiro mentions that appears next to the text of the story. Again, click HERE to read the entire report from Yahoo!Sports. Here’s an Associated Press story on Charles’ connection and here’s a link to The AP report about the story.

UGA officials did not return messages sent late Tuesday night seeking comment about Charles. Wednesday morning Athletic Director Greg McGarity said via email UGA is checking into it.

If and when they respond, I suspect they will say something similar to what Alabama spokesperson Doug Walker said: “The University of Alabama is aware of the story, but we will have no further comment.”

Joe Pannunzio was the tight ends and special teams coach at Miami under former head coach Randy Shannon and is now the first-year director of football operations at Alabama. Bama’s new offensive line coach, Jeff Stoutland, is also implicated in the Yahoo! Sports report.

Charles, a junior from Tampa, is a preseason All-SEC first-team selection expected to be one of the Bulldogs’ main offensive weapons this season. He had 49 career receptions for 796 yards and five touchdowns.

We’ll try to sort all this out from Georgia’s end on Wednesday.

356 comments Add your comment

UGA Class 14

August 17th, 2011
12:06 am

The Big OC is a pretty standup guy. Doubt anything will come of this.

Dawg

August 17th, 2011
12:07 am

Not again….close to first?

Jonesinator

August 17th, 2011
12:08 am

SSG Desert Dawg

August 17th, 2011
12:15 am

I have to agree with UGA Class 14…the story “implicating” OC says a whole lot of nothing. I think if Orson did anything inappropriate he would probably be a Hurricane…really wish “reporters would leave players alone unless there were any direct allegations…just sounds like name dropping from a bitter crook to me.

drbasic

August 17th, 2011
12:26 am

Whats disgusting is someone is always trying to make something of nothing

Cali Dawg

August 17th, 2011
12:33 am

Not too worried, but I would be a bit concerned if I was a Bama fan. Sounds like this is just the beginning of a big mess for Pannunzio and Stoutland. They may not be involved, but at the rate the NCAA works… it’ll linger on and on and on…

JE

August 17th, 2011
12:35 am

Well this is the bottom of the barrell for the ajc writers. Why write about this and tarnish something that UGA is trying their best to do good. First it was the Columbus Rec Teams now the Miami scandal. Keep on digging all you want is UGA to lose and Richt to get fired so you can have somethng negative to write about….

Joe for 3

August 17th, 2011
12:52 am

JE- Where does Towers imply that Orson Charles took any part in this. ‘it doesn’t look like he is anything but a bystander in all this.”

Maybe you should actually read the article before jumping to accusations.

I am happy to see AJC report about it, because everyone else is.

“Shapiro said he gave money, cars, yacht trips, jewelry, televisions and other gifts to a list of players including Vince Wilfork, Jon Beason, Antrel Rolle, Devin Hester, Willis McGahee and the late Sean Taylor. Shapiro also claimed he paid for nightclub outings, sex parties, restaurant meals and in one case, an abortion for a woman impregnated by a player. One former Miami player, running back Tyrone Moss, told Yahoo! Sports he accepted $1,000 from Shapiro around the time he was entering college.”

RED DOG 77

August 17th, 2011
12:54 am

Bla, Bla Bla, Bla………Come on AJC, you guys can do better than this!!!……..If Orson Charles is at all guilty………so is the whole dadgum SEC……….I know we are what? 17 or 18 days from kick-off, but lets talk football not all this “grassy knoll” garbage…………Mabe when we kick the dang football to start the season………all this foolishness will stop. But I’m not holding my breath…………..RED

pointless

August 17th, 2011
12:55 am

I have to agree with most here Chip! Why write about this now? Some of the crap you guys write about is pointless crap! Write about football, not OC’s name being mentioned by a convict or scooter accidents. Why not just wait until Wednesday to write about this anyway when you have the FACTS.

RED DOG 77

August 17th, 2011
12:59 am

@SSG Desert Dawg………You hit the nail on the head brother……..great post……..Regards, RED

pointless

August 17th, 2011
1:00 am

Btw Joe for 3 , I doubt Chip needs you to defend him.

Matt

August 17th, 2011
1:27 am

im not entirely sure why people are angry at chip for writing this. all he’s done was report that oc was named in an article that was on the front page of yahoo. he hasnt implicated oc in anything, just letting it be kown that hes been named. cant really fault him for that.

Dawg1

August 17th, 2011
1:59 am

Means nothing – next

FAN

August 17th, 2011
2:02 am

that shapiro guy is amoron. Robert Marve graduated way before OC was there. Murray was the main reason OC came to plant. What a crock of shat

FAN

August 17th, 2011
2:03 am

OC was at plant for a year that’s it.

Bull

August 17th, 2011
2:06 am

In other news, the AJC is about to break the big story, found through their daily open records request, a Uga football player was found to be guilty of recieving a citation for peeing in the bushes

Bull

August 17th, 2011
2:10 am

Shapiro’s story sounds like he telling the fuzzy truth but embellishing some of his recollections

Laughter is heard all the way to The Dome

August 17th, 2011
2:13 am

One has to ask the question: If Miami was handing out all this cash, gifts, women and benefits, what did UGA do to land Orson Charles?

It had to be pretty darn good to get him to cross over to the black and red.

Makes you go..ummmmmmmm!

Laughter is heard all the way to The Dome

August 17th, 2011
2:19 am

Once again, the AJC does it job and reports the BIGGEST College Football Story of the year that implicates( although minor) a player currently on scholarship at Georgia, two assistants at Alabama, players at Florida and yet a group of Georgia uniformed, we are victims, UGA does nothing wrong, the NCAA and SEC are always picking on us, the AJC is biased against us dumb fans and bloggers want the AJC to ignore the story.

Get past it dudes and just face the facts, the program at UGA has not been relevant in over 8 years and that was a minor blip on the radar screen and it has been over 30 years since a title was won. Even GT has won a title since then.

firemarkricht.net has a time clock running since the last title….how funny…

Laughter is heard all the way to The Dome

August 17th, 2011
2:23 am

Bull

August 17th, 2011
2:10 am
Shapiro’s story sounds like he telling the fuzzy truth but embellishing some of his recollections
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Please go back and reread the story. Yahoo has evidence repeated over and over again, bank records, court documents, verification from multiple witnesses and Miami has a long history of running a program that is on the edge to begin with.

I guess Jan Kemp just made up her story as well.

Get some facts and learn to read, it will serve you well.

Laughter is heard all the way to The Dome

August 17th, 2011
2:25 am

Dawg1

August 17th, 2011
1:59 am
Means nothing – next

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Did anyone say it meant anything? Just reporting a story that is gaining traction. Once again, the AJC is forbidden from writing anything negative about UGA or implying anything or even reporting anything.

Laughter is heard all the way to The Dome

August 17th, 2011
2:28 am

SSG Desert Dawg

August 17th, 2011
12:15 am
I have to agree with UGA Class 14…the story “implicating” OC says a whole lot of nothing. I think if Orson did anything inappropriate he would probably be a Hurricane…really wish “reporters would leave players alone unless there were any direct allegations…just sounds like name dropping from a bitter crook to me.

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Once again, you have to ask the question..what did UGA give OC to get him to commit and sign with UGA over all the benefits that Miami was handing out? The question has to be asked.

Laughter is heard all the way to The Dome

August 17th, 2011
2:33 am

RED DOG 77

August 17th, 2011
12:54 am
Bla, Bla Bla, Bla………Come on AJC, you guys can do better than this!!!……..If Orson Charles is at all guilty………so is the whole dadgum SEC……….I know we are what? 17 or 18 days from kick-off, but lets talk football not all this “grassy knoll” garbage…………Mabe when we kick the dang football to start the season………all this foolishness will stop. But I’m not holding my breath…………..RED

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Red Dawg, you are one of those fans I was speaking of above. The sports writers and reporters should only write positve articles, stay away from reporting anything that does not cast the No.1 party school, scooter wrecking, suspended license, helmet stealing, public intoxicating, hit and run, former Fulmer Cup trophy winning school as unfavorable.

I guess the AJC should not report any injuries suffered or lack of production by the offense or defense either.

You need to go back to UGA and hope the education sticks next time around.

Laughter is heard all the way to The Dome

August 17th, 2011
2:34 am

JE

August 17th, 2011
12:35 am
Well this is the bottom of the barrell for the ajc writers. Why write about this and tarnish something that UGA is trying their best to do good. First it was the Columbus Rec Teams now the Miami scandal. Keep on digging all you want is UGA to lose and Richt to get fired so you can have somethng negative to write about….

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Just one word you little lady…..

LOSER….is your middle name…..

Columbus

August 17th, 2011
2:37 am

Wow, this makes USC and the Reggie Bush deal look like child’s play! University of Miami. The hero of Auburn Iniverstiy and what Auburn strives to become. The Miami in the middle of nowhere that can BOOSTER the best players in the land to hang with Bama!

On another SERIOUS note. Have you read the full Yahoo report? Man this was going on for 10 years and yes it is ALL true as there is confirmation and verification of every thing from one source or another and many times multiple sources and there will be more witnesses coming out, hundreds of them.

The thing that KILLS me is that they have this LEGAL program where if you DONATE so much to the school, you get to BUDDY UP with a player for the season and then get to expand from there as big as you want. I mean talk about inviting trouble by the NCAA! This is legal! Man this makes it so easy. I mean is this how Auburn has done it for 20 years too?

What also blows my mind is that no one checked up on the players ove all these years from the University. Not anyone in the athletic department, administration, compliance office or if they did they looked the other way. One person said something but it went nowhere and apparently the head of compliance did a background check on Shapiro, found out he was part owner of a sports agency and looked the other way. Coaches were involved too. In football and basketball. The NCAA compliance officer or whatever title he has that scolded USC when it was sanctioned, was at MIAMI while all this was taking place an now he works in compliance for the NCAA! ROFLMFAO!

Man this is just the tip of the iceberg! Read this LOOOOOONNNNNGG report on Yahoo sports! They did the investigation on Reggie Bush and broke it open too remember? This is significantly larger and involved players AND coaches over 20 years. Criminal activity, money, large gifts, plane trips for family, girlfriends, bounties on players(Tebow and that FL ST Qb that escapes me) I could go on and on and on. The bottomline is: Miami is in DEEP. Death Penalty territory and LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL IS A GIVEN. It is simlar to USC because they let agents on and out and run free at practice and in LOCKER ROOMS! At least this guy was booster, but he just buddied up was the next generation “LUTHER CAMPBELL” and hooked up the players with his PARTNER when it was time for the draft. HE WAS ALL OVER CAMPUS had picture with the president of the university. Man I could go on and on. Just read the article and lets not get any Miami recruits or players that leave because they might be wanting for us at UGA to “show them the money” too! Funk that! Hey Orosn might have taken something, who knows, or he just might have been invited to their patry to TRY to get him to come there. Shapiro did get in the the recruiting part too and tried to help get many players to down to Miami. It wa like a “LUTHER CAMPBELL VIDEO”! Pop pop that coochie pop pop that coochie baby! Jewlery, cash, cars, tickets, trips, prostitutes, strippers, whatever the players needed or wanted, they got it….. big time. Pop that coochie!

Draggin' Fly

August 17th, 2011
2:38 am

“I’m somewhat hesitant to even bring this up…”

Oh please. Look at all the hits it’s generating.

U

August 17th, 2011
2:39 am

“I’m somewhat hesitant to even bring this up…”

LOL. Sure you are.

Bull

August 17th, 2011
2:44 am

Miami and its boosters need a crash course on cheating, call it Auburn 101-Principals of the All In Approach to Winning

Columbus

August 17th, 2011
2:46 am

Hey Orson was named as a player who may have had a benefit, like a prostitute? hey that happens all over at most Universities Ok? They send these “pretty coeds” to show you around and “take care ” of you them there mouth happens to fall in your lap or something. So whatever it was I now this: It did not WORK cuz OC is at UGA!

Hey it is not AJC doing this, this is NATIONAL NEWS OK? Yahoo sports reported his name and did a lengthy investigation. I do not know if there is any verification or witnesses to OC doing anything wrong that was reported. This is ongoing so hey if Orson got a really good lap dance or was just at a party, he needs to come clean. Let me go back and see how the report said OC was involved.

Columbus

August 17th, 2011
2:51 am

It just said Orson was brought in, as were many other players, so Shapiro could make a “recruiting pitch” to him. No allegations other than he was a recruit and was brought over to try to win him over by a booster. If that is all that it was, then not much smoke in that so I dont expect any fire. It is all good right now. Orson obviously has a good head on his shoulders and escaped that trap. Best recruiting choice he made.

cmdawg99

August 17th, 2011
3:37 am

Now the NCAA is taking the advice and story from a convicted felon. During his free call he called the NCAA? I gave Doug Flutie 10 bucks for lunch money…..LOL How about writing an article on that…………………………SAD in all sorts of ways………………

Bean Counter

August 17th, 2011
3:39 am

So far Orson has done nothing wrong. He was taken by an assistant coach to see a booster and get a recruiting pitch.

Miami on the other hand is in a world of deep dodo. They could get the “death penalty” in 2 sports. This will make USC, OSU, GT and NC look minor. ACC now has had 3 schools in trouble with the NCAA within the past year.

LMAO @ NERD FAIL TROLLS

August 17th, 2011
4:06 am

This 5′9″ sleaze says Orson came to his house and looked at his closet. Whoop-tee-freakin’-doo….

Just look at all them butthurt techie trolls trying to roll on this. Gives me great lulz pumpin’ through my veins.

Nothing will come of this – unless Orson lies like the treacherous Yechie players – which he will NOT do because he is awesome and tech lies and cheats.

LOL@ YECH and GO DAWGS!

slydog

August 17th, 2011
5:05 am

At the absolute most, O Charles will have to miss a few games just for stepping his foot in pelican booboo and not catching it until he got back in the house…lol. If we play him, he won’t cost us any games. This is all Miami’s mess. Word to all D1 programs: Cut the bag men now!!!. Fellas, if the NCAA wants to survive, they have to come up with a way to pay the players. And no, tennis, golf, and volleyball players do not have to receive the same compensation, but they do have to get something. Compensation should be determined by the gross revenue of each individual sport and all athletes get a certain percentage, say 20% for starters. They should unionize or form a national student-athlete coalition and force the NCAA and it’s member institutions into a CBA. That DOES meet the standard of equal pay for equal play. So the argument about paying all the athletes the same amount does not apply. Heck even Boise St. faces probation for a female tennis player…hahhahahha. If this doesn’t happen within the next 15 to 20 years, these future Super conferences will just break off and form independent leagues, compensate the players themselves, and get even bigger TV packages. Real Talk. The alternative is to provide a need-based grant of up to $15,000 per scholarship player, per year with a $60,000 cap, to help out at home or other expenses. Have the athlete apply and prove they need a certain amount, and take care of the issue directly.

Thomas Brown

August 17th, 2011
5:54 am

Wonderful.

I see the AJ-C has jumped right on this Orson Charles, as if we have to hold him out of the 1st two games vs Boise State and South Carolina, with Mark Richt’s “coaching staff” in the balance on these two games.

11-3 I still say we will be. Boise State is no match for our talent.

And, you all said, that Garcia is not Murray.

And, you all said how great we will be at tailback this season, and just who is it who is practicing to get his 1st college football tote ?

No one.

30 fumbles this season, putting the ball on the carpet and up for grabs, and we haven’t been any good at all teaching our offensive players how to fall on fumbles, either. Both how to hold the football and how to fall on the football, are not talents or gifts, but learned skills. We don’t know how to teach them.

Funny that Texas A and M cannot join The SEC. I love that with their Losing Record this entire Century starting 2000 (no, that is not 11 years ago we are talking about but every game from 2000 through today) against all 6 BCS Conferences, Navy has done better than Texas A and M. TV sets don’t turn on in Dallas or Houston to watch such Losing. SEC owns Texas A and M and always will with their 39 percent win percentage all-time in games vs The SEC. And, The SEC (and everyone else) always out-recruits Texas A and M in Texas.

Sort it out for us all AJ-C while once again you have posted not one subliminal phrase daily like this that Georgia tek is on back-to-back NCAA PROBATION repeat offender in FOOTBALL.

JE

August 17th, 2011
5:58 am

Joe for 3. Go back and read what I mentioned and read the rest of the comments. There was NO reason for this article in the first place. Just anything negative to write about UGA, or Tech or or or well basically they do not write about the other programs in the state.

slydog

August 17th, 2011
6:05 am

Why do people keep whining about Jan Kemp? She was given a settlement and deposited it in the bank; And she has kept her mouth shut since. So much for the morality of her issue. There are at least 20 Jan Kemps at UGA now and at every single NCAA, NJCAA or NAIA school. Collegiate sports are used to pay for higher faculty salaries, research, overseas studies, buildings/ institutes and more bureaucracy. It can’t all come from taxes and donations. Get over it!!! Real Talk!!!

gomdawg

August 17th, 2011
6:17 am

Come on chip stop this crap write something good or go your butt fishing or maybe get off your butt and find more about whats going on on the field

Santa Cruz Bulldog

August 17th, 2011
6:21 am

Just tell them the truth Charles.
Sounds like a bunch of nothing, where Charles is concerned.
The NCAA is a scary unpredictable bunch though.

jackyldo

August 17th, 2011
6:23 am

Can’t believe that some accuse the AJC of putting out bad press against UGA from this article ..
This is a great story with lots of links to Yahoo’s story.

OC was what 17 in Miami with a teammate and brought to this guys house. What’s a kid to do, he’s with an assistant coach, say I can’t get out of the car ?

At that point most kids don’t know what’s permissible and what’s not ..

There is a lot more trouble here for the assistant coaches that were setting this stuff up as well as the athletes that took cash and favors….

Interesting in that in all the conference expansion talk going around Miami old Big East is not being mentioned as going anywhere… Maybe with this happening for the past 10 years, they’ll be the scapegoat that gets the death penalty ..

Paddy

August 17th, 2011
6:33 am

Bull……his stories you may not trust but his documentation and subsequent player interviews and admissions will lather up the NCAA. NCAA will be eating their own young before this is over.

OC seems to be a bit player and for now , not in danger of suspension. That is my take of the article.

You folks lashing out at Chip misunderstand journalism. It is not their job as “beat writer” to write nice things about our team. Their job is to report the news as they see it. They are not paid cheerleaders in any city that has a football team!

jackyldo

August 17th, 2011
6:35 am

Hmmmmm Butch Davis UNC Football coach fired 7/27/11 for academic scandals and players receiving improper benefits. was Head Coach at Miami 1995-2000.

The following players were coached or recruited by Davis in his stint at Miami: Ray Lewis (LB), Yatil Green (WR), Kenard Lang (DE), Kenny Holmes (DE), Duane Starks (CB), Edgerrin James (RB), Clinton Portis (RB), Frank Gore (RB), Bubba Franks (TE), Dan Morgan (LB), Damione Lewis (DT), Santana Moss (WR), Reggie Wayne (WR), Bryant McKinnie (OT), Jeremy Shockey (TE), Phillip Buchanon (CB), Ed Reed (S), Mike Rumph (CB), Andre Johnson (WR), Jerome McDougle (DE), Willis McGahee (RB), William Joseph (DT), Sean Taylor (S), Kellen Winslow II (TE), Jonathan Vilma (LB), D.J. Williams (LB), Vernon Carey (OT), Vince Wilfork (DT), Antrel Rolle (CB), and Kelly Jennings (CB).

Wonder if this was the shoe falling that ended the UNC love affair with Davis.

Brucerugby79

August 17th, 2011
6:37 am

How can you blame Chip when the story is on yahoo? I for one am eager to hear O C is clear—The story mentions OC there is no reason to blame Chip for writing about it.

TampaGator

August 17th, 2011
6:43 am

Everyone needs to get their heads out of the sand, no matter what team you support. This guy handed out money to players like a rich grandfather does for his grandchildren. If Charles at Georgia and Debose and Pathcan at Florida took money…..they broke the rules and will lose their eligibility. Let’s hope not, because this guy is a realy sleaze of a person. But Debose, Patchan, and Charles do not come from well to do families….so there is some grounds for concern with them. Financial records for these Georgia and Florida players will be checked. We can only hope they were smart, if the money was offerered.

This guy also offered Miami players $5,000 each for anyone who hurt Tebow when Florida played Miami. He also offered FSU players the same deal….before Miami played Florida. This guy was bad news, and it seems that some people at Miami were aware of the things this guy was doing and did nothing about it, including the possibility of Aubry Hill knowing, the current WR coach at Florida….although Muschamp has stated that nothing showed up on Hill when they did their background check on him when he was hired.

But this story is not going away…..and the Georgia and Florida players will have to go through the process becasue they went to this guys house on a recruiting visit…..and he had tons of money to give away to recruits….but not saying they took it…..but the NCAA will certainly check to see if they did.

TampaGator

August 17th, 2011
6:48 am

P.S.

I guess the sports writer at the Gainesville (Florida) Sun is a bad journalist as well….because he wrote the same story concerning Patchan and Debose being mentioned by this sleaze bag. This is national news folks, no matter what team you pull for…and cannot be ignored, like the people associated with the Miami football program did.

misunderstood jerseys

August 17th, 2011
7:01 am

I can understand selling your jersey being a violation. But seeing someone’s jersey collection, or talking to someone who is a Canes fan? Note to all young athletes: Don’t be lured to any guy’s closet, he might have a violation in mind.

AltamahaDawg

August 17th, 2011
7:19 am

Chip handled this well. It’s already all over other outlets, what was he supposed to do, assume that his “blog” is the only source of news and sheild everybodies tender ego from this?

As far as any issues, I doubt this guy was handing out a sack full of cash to every high school recruit that was introduced to him. Sounds like Charles was as said a bystander in a Miami recruiting voilation.

What on earth was that Miami staff thinking?????

AltamahaDawg

August 17th, 2011
7:24 am

Obviously “I knew we were secretely allowing improper contact with a booster” wouldn’t show up in a background check. I hope Hill is also just a bystander. You would hate that a young coach had his career threatened by the actions of his former bosses.

Dixie Highway

August 17th, 2011
7:27 am

The culture of sleaze and cheating continues unabated in Athens. There’s no end to it, is there?