Linebackers: Promising group despite virtual makeover since last season
Seventh in a series breaking down Georgia’s 2011 team by position . . .
Georgia is counting on junior Christian Robinson's leadership and play-making abilities at linebacker this fall. (AJC photo by Brant Sanderlin)
THE LINEBACKERS
- Projected starters: SAM Jarvis Jones (So., 6-3, 241), MIKE Christian Robinson (Jr., 6-2, 226), MO Alec Ogletree (So. 6-3, 236), WILL Cornelius Washington (So., 6-4, 260)
- Returning starters: Robinson started 11 games at the “Mo” inside linebacker last season and Washington started eight at the “Will” outside position. Alec Ogletree was moved to the Mo in the spring after starting five games at strong safety as a true freshman last season. Robinson moved to Mike.
- Others to watch: This is the much-anticipated debut season of Jarvis Jones, who had to sit out this past year after transferring to Georgia from Southern Cal. Jones (6-3, 241) is slated to start at “Sam,” or strongside outside linebacker, but first he has to clear some recently-raised eligibility issues. . . . Former starting tailback Richard Samuel will be playing his first season on defense for the Bulldogs. He redshirted his junior season last year while making the initial transition. He is currently second-team at “Mo” but could play outside linebacker if called upon. . . . Reuben Faloughi, Michael Gilliard and Chase Vasser will be counted on as backups.
Moving Alec Ogletree (9) from strong safety to inside linebacker was bold and potentially bountiful. (AP photo)
- Key losses: Georgia lost a massive amount of production from this unit. Gone are leading tackler Akeem Dent (126 tackles); pass-rushing specialist Justin Houston (10 sacks); No. 4 tackler Marcus Dowtin, who transferred out; and No. 7 tackler Darryl Gamble, who graduated. That’s 259 tackles, 14 sacks and 52 games played just from last season. The Bulldogs also lost linebackers coach Warren Belin to the NFL.
- Newcomers: Georgia signed five linebackers in February to shore up depth, including five-star prospect Ray Drew (6-5, 250) of Thomasville, who will be expected to contribute immediately. The Bulldogs also inked Sterling Bailey (6-5, 260) of Gainesville, Amarlo Herrera (6-1, 224) of College Park, Kent Turene (6-3, 225) of Lauderdale Lakes, Fla., and Ramik Wilson (6-2, 218) of Tampa.
- Key developments: As alluded to earlier, the eligibility issues facing Jones threaten to dog Georgia up until the season opener like those facing A.J. Green did last year. A police investigation into alleged corruption within the ranks of the Columbus parks and recreation department revealed that some of Jones’ flights to Los Angeles his first season at USC were paid for by the department’s director from state funds. Even though Jones was at Southern Cal, the NCAA could require Jones to sit out games at UGA. Georgia has launched its own investigation and will fight to get the situation resolved well before the season opener, unlike last year’s fiasco with Green, who ended up sitting the first four games.
- Key question: This is year two of Georgia’s switch to a 3-4 defense under defensive coordinator Todd Grantham. But due to all the reshuffling, three of the four projected starters will be playing new positions. How quickly and how well will the group adapt to new assignments and new inside linebackers coach Kirk Olivadotti?
- Outlook: Uncertain but promising. If there were no issues facing Jones, it would be tempting to say this is an across-the-board improvement. But the drop from Jones to Vasser would be steep and moving Samuel back outside could be complicated. Meanwhile, moving Ogletree to Mo from strong safety was a bold move and, even though Grantham says he’s “100 percent certain” it was the right thing to do, it’s an uncertain how he’ll perform in games.
- Your turn: What’s your view of Georgia’s linebacker corps?
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Destin Dawg
July 11th, 2011
6:21 am
1st
Destin Dawg
July 11th, 2011
6:23 am
might need to put Samuel back on offense ???
Destin Dawg
July 11th, 2011
6:23 am
also Mike Thornton to OG ????
Destin Dawg
July 11th, 2011
6:26 am
I think we’ll see Grantham’s Junkyard Dawg kick it up a notch this year.. we’ll win turnover/field position with kicking and DDDEEEEEEE !!! Go Dawgs !!!
DaculaDawg
July 11th, 2011
6:49 am
Why no mention of the impact Ray Drew could have ?
RedandBlackDAWG
July 11th, 2011
7:10 am
There is a lot of inexperience at LB position but the young men look like they have talent and size. If the DL steps it up like expected, it will help the LB’s out a lot. Either way though, they are going to have to be ready to hit hard, and take control of the middle layer of the defense. I think we have the coach to make this a success, but the first two games are going to be a baptism under fire so he has got to have them ready.
JB
July 11th, 2011
7:12 am
The guys in front of them should give them a lot of room to operate. That said, lets hope JJ is playing.
HBTD!!!
JB
July 11th, 2011
7:19 am
I hope the D is a lot better, because the offense will be hit and miss for starters. Most SEC teams have a three deep set at RB with 2-3 younger in the wings types. We do not. Our #3 is a walk on and our projected starter and never taken a snap in college. Here’s hoping that Crowell can be the real deal, But as the story states, physically, we look pretty good on D.
Delirious
July 11th, 2011
7:26 am
I don’t think they will be worse than last year.
JB
July 11th, 2011
7:29 am
Boise,SC,Miss St,Tenn,Fla,AU,Tech………………All trouble…………..And you might throw Kentucky in there……………………Thank you, Larry Munson’s Nephew….LOL
Tide Roll
July 11th, 2011
7:33 am
Free Richard Samuel. Hopefully, Ramik Wilson, Amarlo Herrera, or Kent Turene, can be adequate back ups inside thus allowing Samuel to be where he belongs, Running Back. Otherwise, Samuel at back up “Mo” as a junior basically ends his career. The kid really needs to move on to a school that’s willing to play him at running back, where his future lies. It hurts losing the experience of Dowtin and Nick Williams as well, especially Dowtin. Weird going ons in Athens as usual. Something’s always in transition .Always in some “rebuilding mode.” Ogeltree would have been another Blue at safety. I guess the emergence of Shawn Williams dictated the move.
Wonderful Ohio on the Gulf 'Dog
July 11th, 2011
7:38 am
Will Ray Drew redshirt? What is the prospect that Drew will challenge Washington at Will? Or will Drew be in the mix on the line?
Paddy
July 11th, 2011
7:58 am
I thought Drew was an end? Must be, as this article is about LB’s. Or maybe no incoming Frosh are listed for a reason?
just a fan
July 11th, 2011
7:59 am
@tide roll Richard Samuel was a great LB in high school and he will be a great LB in college. Also he only seemed like a avg RB in college he got his opportunity and never did he anything with it.
Shawn
July 11th, 2011
8:01 am
Our front 7 will be dominant, the strength of this team! Tide Roll, for all the talk about UGA football you must not watch very much. Without a huge hole Samuel would run 3 yards until he ran into someone and fall down. He does not make people miss at all therefore LB is his best chance to play and move on to the NFL!
jim
July 11th, 2011
8:05 am
Tide Roll = Smartest man in college football
DollarDawg43
July 11th, 2011
8:17 am
This team has a lot of question marks on both sides of the ball and the LB’s are no different. While this can’t help but make you nervous, the bright side to all of the reshuffling is that we are putting the most talent on the field regardless. Yes, they WILL make mistakes born from inexperience but talent always finds a way.
This team will be fun to watch. We may not have any fingernails left by mid-season but we’ll never bemoan a lack of effort from this bunch.
JB
July 11th, 2011
8:20 am
Samuel at RB was called by the pundits a big stiff back. Got more that his chance to prove himself.
In HS he was a man among boys. In college, he met some other men!
Troll Power Ratings
July 11th, 2011
8:21 am
I don’t know 1/10 as much about TECH, Bama, O State, etc., etc, as the trolls seem to know about Georgia. Thanks for caring so much and for all the well-spent time researching the Dawgs.
Quick, tide troll, who is UGA’s third team walk-on punter?
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
8:22 am
this group is going to do great. The freshmen all need to redshirt and get stronger.
Now boys, as bad a week as we had last week, Auburn is about to have one of the worst ever seen. The fires are glowing over in toilet paper land and the hammer is about to drop. Might not be this week but folks are telling me it is gonna happen.
1eyedJack
July 11th, 2011
8:22 am
Is it September yet?
JB
July 11th, 2011
8:23 am
Richt and staff need to turn this team loose and let them play. Yes, there will mistakes, but let these athletes be themselves. We tend to play “over coached”.
BirdDog
July 11th, 2011
8:27 am
Personally, I think this group has a lot of upside. Hopefully, Jones will not be suspended. Robinson could stand to add about 10-15 pounds of muscle, he seemed a little soft last year. But I like the group’s potential! Go Dawgs!
Paul N Destin
July 11th, 2011
8:28 am
If you look at UGA over the past 4 years one has to ask what problems has this program had to overcome? probation…NO…Heach Coach replaced…NO….state with no talent…Heck No
Excuses anyone for their record? The clock has to be ticking on Richt for 2011.
Side note…Smoke is coming from the Plains. Stay tuned.
we ruin this state
July 11th, 2011
8:30 am
we’ll miss you – washaun and caleb!
JB
July 11th, 2011
8:30 am
TPR@8:21………I think we get a lot of visitors on here to “comment” on our Dawgs because #1, They are college football fans. #2, it’s Free. #3, A lot of these people live/work in the Atlanta Area and it gives them a chance to talk football, and some have class, some just hate. These blogs are 80% Georgia folks. Nobody but hard core follow the Tech blogs, so they are here where the action is. We have not been very good the last 2-3 years, so it opens the door for all the experts to tell Richt what is wrong, and bash our fan base. some hide behind their moniker( mostly Techies), but some such as Tide Roll just want to talk football. Go Dawgs
JB
July 11th, 2011
8:32 am
Paul N Destin……….come on man ,whatca hearing……don’t leave us hanging…….
slapAjacket
July 11th, 2011
8:33 am
@jim! only when you cross the bamer state line.
Born2Bark
July 11th, 2011
8:33 am
No mention of TJ STripling either…, he showed great potential before injury and I hear he’s added weight. I think Drew will see early playing time, too mature, smart, and athletic not to play early. GO DAWGS! Hope UGA doesn’t fall on the sword in regards to the Jarvis Jones thing, hope we push back if they try to impose an unfair punishment.
Tide Roll
July 11th, 2011
8:34 am
I can’t tell you who your 3rd string punter is, but I can tell you who’s married to Barb Dooley’s niece.It happens to be your offensive coordinator. It’s MIKE BOBO. What a coincidence. This stuff would never happen at BAMA. Saban wouldn’t allow it because it would be a BREACH of his duty to Bama players and fans to bring in the very best coach available. AND, the Bama administration wouldn’t allow it because it’s an INCREDIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ! Only at UGA. What a program!
Are these questions too hot for Tide Roll to answer?
July 11th, 2011
8:34 am
Feel free to NOT answer if the following questions are embarrassing or uncomfortable for you to answer. Since you appear to be quite knowledgeable and opinionated on a number of issues, they should be easy, however.
1. Do you think Alabama would have won more games last year with Cam Newton at quarterback or Greg McElroy?
2. On Bana and Cam Newton’s recruitment: choose one
A. Saban got outrecruited by Chizik
B. Saban chose to not recruit Newton
3. If the answer to #2 is B, what possible reasons do you think led to Bama passing on Newton?
JB
July 11th, 2011
8:36 am
Frannie Mae……………We been there for 3 years………..I wait till we play……..Lot’s of hard work has been going on in Athens. C King is but one man. We might be better without him. He may have been a left over from the ” lip poked out group”.
Lowcountry BulldBack awg
July 11th, 2011
8:39 am
Samuel needs to keep his but on defense. I for one grew tired of watching him put the damn ball on the ground. Also I am not a big fan of putting alot of stock in Spring games but Chase Vasser was a was wreaking havoc. I don’t know if the drop from Jones to Vasser can be said to be steep. I think thats a little dramatic imo. Dont give me Jones and his measurables, I want a football player who can go make a play. If we are without Jones for 2 games it is no where near as significant as losing Green last year. Finishing though about Samuels, some of you guys must have forgotten over two years just how often he was dropping the ball. It was painful. He is better served as a backup at ILB and special teams maven right now.
More questions potentially too hot for Tide Roll to answer
July 11th, 2011
8:41 am
Again, since this may make you uncomfortable or be embarrassing to answer in this forum, please feel free to NOT answer if that is the case.
1. Do you think Saban is a good evaluator of talent?
2. Are you okay with it if Bama starts AJ McCarran over the Sims kid at QB?
3. If Saban does name McCarran the starting QB, do you think he is starting the best quarterback?
Answering may put you on the spot, if it does continue with your analysis of Georgia high school offensive linemen, which has added so much to this board over the past months.
JB
July 11th, 2011
8:41 am
I hope we put in 8-10 plays from the spread. Power football might be MIA this year. I’d bet my car today that little Carlton Thomas will open at Tailback against Boise.
Texas Baller
July 11th, 2011
8:43 am
Tide Roll……Price, Shula, Dubose
Great hires
STFU
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
8:43 am
Tide Roll,
You just posted a blog about how Bobo is married to Barb Dooley’s niece and how Bama wouldn’t allow it. Thats just dumb….
JB
July 11th, 2011
8:46 am
Stalling to Shula=a train wreck and many losses to Georgia. Can’t get anyone over there to remember that, just like the 80 years of Florida football history before Spurrier.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
8:47 am
Alabama got Saban because his ass realized he was a “fish” outta water with the Dolphins in the NFL and he was desperate to get back into college. Alabama was the tight program because it would legitmize the program since the last coach they hired never coached a game because he was “making it rain”. So Alabama backed into getting Saban. Pure luck has now given morons like Tide Roll the belief that Andrew Zoe could have won a National Title under Saban.
JB
July 11th, 2011
8:49 am
My gut tells me this is South Carolina’s year. All the stars are lining up. They have a damn good football team taking the field this year, With Georgia still in a flux as well as Florida and Tenn….Never a better time for them IMO.
JDawg1785
July 11th, 2011
8:50 am
This should be a strength of Georgia’s going into the season, provided the NCAA doesn’t pull an A.J. with us on Jones.
jbdawg
July 11th, 2011
8:55 am
I like, or find interesting, about 40% of what tide roll has to say….but most of it is rhetoric. You have to take everything he says with a grain of salt much like with many other posters.
Someone needs to spill the beans on the smoke rising from Auburn. Is there a story or blog to read?
claytondawg
July 11th, 2011
8:56 am
I agree with many of you guys on here now. Leave Samuels at LB. He will certainly get good, quality playing time. If he’s the stud that some people say, then he can not only be a tremendous backup, but one helluva special teams player (THAT’S IMPORTANT). Looking forward to the denfense and their-better- than-average-playing-soft attitude.
Dawg '94
July 11th, 2011
8:59 am
The front 3 are going to be a lot better this season, which means the LBs will be a lot better this season. Last year’s group took plays off & ran around blocks. I have to think the LB coach is an upgrade too. This is going to be a GREAT season for the Dawgs!!!
RxDawg
July 11th, 2011
9:00 am
Chip, we need your investigating. Who will Richt move over to TB? Because I know we aren’t staying with 3 scholarship TBs with one of them being a true freshmen.
I don’t think it should be Samuels. We tried that, it didn’t work. He just doesn’t have the balance or something.
Jagger
July 11th, 2011
9:00 am
Starting to get a bad feeling about this year.
Tide Roll = GT Fan
July 11th, 2011
9:02 am
Anyone who reads these blogs often enough can see that Tide Roll is no Alabama fan. Why else would someone care so much about what one of their rivals is doing. He never brings any recruiting information from bama like bigtime and blackout, all he do is talk negative about the dawgs and the only people I know that do that are Techee’s.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
9:06 am
Branden Smith RxDawg will get 3-4 carries a game now. Also Nick Marshall depending on his play may even see some snaps out of the Wildcat formation. This is easiest way I can see of making sure you have fresh legs for Crowell/Malcombe/Thomas.
Bali
July 11th, 2011
9:06 am
JB…don’t even joke about Thomas startin at tailback, Bobo might get wind of it and think it’s a good idea. If we use him the way we sometimes used Tyson Browning, in the flat, that would make more sense. But Barb’s neices’ husband will probably call 3 straight running plays for him right up the middle and keep his fingers crossed……..geez
big john 360 lbs
July 11th, 2011
9:08 am
Jarvis will be a soph. this year, not a jr. Correct?
JackDennis
July 11th, 2011
9:08 am
Promising group? dawgs always have promising groups…only to languish in mediocrity.
always next year
July 11th, 2011
9:09 am
Fire Richt and staff? Who is going to replace him? You cannot just fire someone for the sake of firing him. If we can run the ball with consistency, and continue to get above average special teams, we will win our 8 or 9. Have to start 2-0, not 0-2 or even 1-1.
B.G
July 11th, 2011
9:10 am
@ Chip is Ramik Wilson, Amarlo Herrera, and Kent Turene in Athens yet? I saw on 247sports that Ramik Wilson, and Kent Turene were having some issues with qualifying to get in UGA.
JB
July 11th, 2011
9:12 am
RxDawg. #3 on the depth chart is a walk on…..now, I ‘m not gonna say that’s a bad thing, he might have more heart than any of the other RB’s, but we all know Richt and Bobo play a lot of backs, and getting to a walk on that quick will give any team pause. Maybe he love’s UGA and could be starting at a smaller school, who knows. I do know that ANY time in the next few weeks we hear or read a National story about the Dawgs, this will come up, and it won’t be good.
Chip Towers
July 11th, 2011
9:12 am
B.G.: Turene is the only one who hasn’t arrived yet.
Chip Towers
July 11th, 2011
9:13 am
Macon dawg: Yes, Jones is a sophomore.
@Tide Roll = GT Fan
July 11th, 2011
9:14 am
You may be on to something. I don’t know about the Tech angle, but for a “Bama fan” he certainly does not act like one with many of his posts. Notice how he seems genuinely upset that Cam Newton did not go to UGA. You would think a true Tide fan would have been slightly ticked off at “the greatest QB in the history of college football” choosing Bama’s biggest rival. And why would he want Newton at UGA being tutored by those incompetent Dog coaches?
Chip Towers
July 11th, 2011
9:15 am
RxDawg: I plan to ask about moving TBs next time I get to talk to CMR. But they also have three walkons they could turn to in a pinch.
Tide Roll
July 11th, 2011
9:15 am
Chip, Talk about a promising group. Our inside linebackers are Courtney Upshaw (6′3″ 263 lb.), and Donta Hightower (6′4″ 258 lb.) Roll Tide.
Chip Towers
July 11th, 2011
9:16 am
Left out “newcomers” section. It’s in there now.
RedandBlackDAWG
July 11th, 2011
9:18 am
I know a young man that went to high school with Samuels. He has said that he would rather be at LB and most that watched and played with him, know he is a much better player at LB than he would be at RB. He appears to have to work hard as a runner, because he doesn’t have the natural skills that most RB’s have. His size helped him at that position in H.S. but it didn’t translate well to the college level.
UGA has the bodies to play RB, the experience level is is just not there yet. We have a natural dynamic runner in Crowell, but he lacks the experience at the college level. Crowell does have all the tools and the making of a great back. He just needs to mature a little physically and a lot mentally. I hope he will. He will just have to grow at the position. Malcom is a bruiser of a back, but has to hold onto the ball and not give it up. he just doesn’t look as comfortable as Rb as you would like, but more experience may do the trick. Thomas is small, coughs up the ball, but is a good option on some plays, but could not hold up for game after game as a starter. He is just too small to continuously take the pounding. He is a good change of break RB, but no full timer. He might be a good one to have if you have a two back set, every once in a while. He probably is not big enough to be a real effective blocker.
Bwkdawg
July 11th, 2011
9:20 am
Chip any word on TJ Stripling. If he is healthy I see him getting in to the rotation, this is a very talented group and with the improvements to the D line they should be able to occupy those linemen and keep them out of the second layer of our defense, I think they willl give QB’s fits.
JB
July 11th, 2011
9:22 am
I don’t know about Tide Roll…..Techies are pretty easy to spot because they hit on Academics, Arrest, Working flipping burgers etc, the usual crap they are taught when they show up over there and realize there are no women ( except middle easterners) to date. Tide Roll mostly sticks to football, and a Techie can’t resist the usual shots they take.
big john 360 lbs
July 11th, 2011
9:22 am
When me and Kwame plug up the middle it will allow Tree and Robinson to wreak havoc.
Dawgs will be much tougher on 3rd down and 4 this year.
Nate the Great
July 11th, 2011
9:27 am
Where’s everyone reading about the smoke on the plains? I have thought the hammer would fall but I just haven’t heard anything from a credible source.
Nate the Great
July 11th, 2011
9:28 am
JB the techies also talk about the red panties.
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
9:31 am
If Jone can’t play the 2011 group will be average at best. But whoa buddy 2012 and beyond look really good.
dawgpost
July 11th, 2011
9:31 am
Enter your comments here
Bwkdawg
July 11th, 2011
9:36 am
JB he may not be a techie but he’s no bama fan. Why would a fan of a school that has such a rich history and much recent success as well be so obsessed with who uga is recruiting.
dawgpost
July 11th, 2011
9:37 am
What’s with South Cackalacky winning back to back baseball championships and now in the drivers seat in football? We’ve definitely lost a step or two on them IMO. We can quote all the history we want but it’s all about what have you done for me lately. We need a complete overhaul. We are a disgrace no two ways about it.
JB
July 11th, 2011
9:37 am
Nate, we would have to Show a techie what panties look like. never seen a pair except their mama’s in the laundry room…LOL
JB
July 11th, 2011
9:40 am
Tide Roll………you’ve been called out this morning.
McDawg
July 11th, 2011
9:51 am
Corneilius Washingtonn is up to 260-watch out
RamboDog
July 11th, 2011
9:54 am
Ralph D. , thought you were going to post today?
schmeckdawg
July 11th, 2011
9:56 am
DaculaDawg
July 11th, 2011
6:49 am
Why no mention of the impact Ray Drew could have ?
FYI.
Newcomers: Georgia signed five linebackers in February to shore up depth, including five-star prospect Ray Drew (6-5, 250) of Thomasville, who will be expected to contribute immediately.
@dawgpost
July 11th, 2011
9:58 am
That was a strong effort on your part at winning the “TROLL of the Day” crown. I would say that you are in the driver’s seat at this point in the competition, but remember that you are competing with some world class window lickers so you can never get complacent. Keep the TROLL posts coming my man!!
Sir Barks A Lot!!!
July 11th, 2011
10:00 am
UGA’s defense and LB corp should be a positive in 2011 in year 2 of the 3/4 scheme.
Jones should be OK – all Jones has to say is that we was not aware of any illegal transportation arrangements – as the NCAA has set a precedent in the Cam Newton case.
Samuel needs to stay at LB – he was a better LB in HS than RB. All of his workouts and training have prepared his body type to be LB – not RB.
Carlton Thomas is not the answer at RB – he is a third down situational player – great speed to hit the corners – by all means – keep him away from running between the tackles – he FUMBLES way too much – even the spring game – he lost the handle 3 times – including his touchdown run – the ball squirted out – but he had broken the goal line. Malcome, Harton and Crowell will be the answer.
I mm clueless about other SEC programs
July 11th, 2011
10:03 am
I suspect that most major programs in the SEC have issues like somebody quit or someone blew his knee and so and so went back home to be with Suzy Lou, etc. This has been going on for 50+ years that I have watched UGA with some stellar years and then, not so stellar in there. Last two years for UGA have been very bad.
One year a UGA D player in the mid 70s dove into Lake Lanier and badly cut up his shoulders and knees on submergaed barbed wire fencing and ended up not being a factor that year. It happens.
The thing about this year is that CMR has got to win big and has got to show a major turn around on this team with no car wrecks, DUIs, or flunk outs, apparel sales,etc. ………… or we make changes. Depth should always carry your program through the rough patches. We are lately, short in that regard and faced with key guys that are hanging on with bloody nails regarding grades or trouble off campus. Alumni are sick and tired of it.
It is what it is. 10-2 with a trip to the Ga Dome ranked around 13th in December would be great. Losing in the Dome and a trip to a major bowl would be fine ………… a trip to Shreveport to rematch Ga Tech would be awful, especially after whupping them for the 10 th time in 11 years. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
UGA man, class of 71 & 73
FredDawg
July 11th, 2011
10:06 am
Sounding like Larry Munson and Tide Roll – just do not see anything out of Georgia – again – more issues and too much transition – and the OL is a huge question mark….. again.
Hate it for Caleb King – but his career at UGA has been a bust – he never got over his broken leg and showed flashes of greatness – but nothing consistent. He has been his own worst enemy in terms of off field and academics.
His is off field issues and academics are not buttoned up – and translated to his preparation and on field perfromance as well.
Ealey and King gone – it is what it is – they were given all kind fo chances – time to move on.
AltamahaDawg
July 11th, 2011
10:16 am
There are 2 other TB on scholarship, plus the walk on that we saw a bit of in the G-day game. (I’d guess he get a scholarship granted now?) Not saying they are the answer to the RG, but an answer to your question.
Plus the mention of more B. Smith carries and perhaps others in some capacity. We are not without options, just known experience. Bringin somebody over on a permanent basis doesn’t really solve that plus I’d think that just creates the same depth issues someplace else. With Samuel, everybody knows he “could” be an emergency plan if it came to it. I see no point in announcing or declaring him, anything other than what he is, at this point.
My guess is that they just try a variety of different things in fall camp to fill in the 3rd, 4th, 5th option.
beebee's girlfriend sleebee
July 11th, 2011
10:16 am
Dawgs fans, is anybody a wee bit concerned that 3 sophomores are stating in this unit, and the most “senior” member is a junior?
I see trouble Dawgs fans.
What’s the secondary looking like?
Johnson, The Tech one, not yours
July 11th, 2011
10:16 am
Hey, let’s talk about the big opening day with Western Carolina..Heck, I know most of those boys at Western.I tried to get them to come to Tech……Ya’ll come on…I’m told we’re down to 15-20 thousand tickets left.
AltamahaDawg
July 11th, 2011
10:19 am
Oh, are all 3 all walk-ons? I thought 2 of those guys had papers.
dkg
July 11th, 2011
10:24 am
I wish both Ealey and King well. I do not think it it going to be that bad for the team. I do see Malcome turning it up this year. Hopefully, now that King will not take him under his wing, Crowell can mature and contribute this year. Keep Samuels @ LB. You will see a lot of Chase Vasser this year, I do not see a significant drop from Jones. Leave Brandon Smith on Defense, he is basically the same thing as Thomas, too small to run up the middle.
intheknow
July 11th, 2011
10:25 am
Tide Roll is an idiot….!
forever dawg fan
July 11th, 2011
10:28 am
in my opinion no one knows what the hell is going to
happen until we play. hey Herschel Walker was a
rookie and look what he did (THERE GOES HERSCHEL)
GO DAWGS
Bama in Atlanta
July 11th, 2011
10:37 am
@ Are these questions too hot for Tide Roll to answer? who wrote:
Feel free to NOT answer if the following questions are embarrassing or uncomfortable for you to answer. Since you appear to be quite knowledgeable and opinionated on a number of issues, they should be easy, however.
1. Do you think Alabama would have won more games last year with Cam Newton at quarterback or Greg McElroy?
2. On Bana and Cam Newton’s recruitment: choose one
A. Saban got outrecruited by Chizik
B. Saban chose to not recruit Newton
3. If the answer to #2 is B, what possible reasons do you think led to Bama passing on Newton?
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I don’t always agree with Tide Roll but I did want to address these questions. Alabama probably would have won more games with Cam as QB but regarding Question #2 I choose (C) Saban did not recruit Cam Newton because Cam committed to UF in 2006 and Saban did not sign on with Bama until 2007.
Chip Towers
July 11th, 2011
10:40 am
BWKdawg: Stripling is on schedule to come back sometime during preseason camp. At the moment he’s not a factor. Probably should have mentioned him, though. May amend eventually.
murfdawg
July 11th, 2011
10:44 am
Does the NCAA really have the time to foolishly look at Jones’ travel arrangements by a basketball coach? If there is a penalty, they should tack it on to the So Cal penalty. If the NCAA suspends Jones, then UGA should lead the secession revolt and start a new coalition of 24 schools. I really think football will come to this one day.
JDawg1785
July 11th, 2011
10:47 am
Chip, I’ve seen Drew listed as an LB by some sources and as an end by others. Any insight into CTG’s ultimate plan for him? I’m in favor of whatever gets this kid on the field the fastest.
Black Mountain Bulldog
July 11th, 2011
10:50 am
I think the Offense will run several ‘Wildcat” type plays, in the first two ball games.
Also I bet we will see a bunch of two tight end sets.
Richt will take over the play calling, if he has to.
CMR knows that his job is on the line.
The Defensive front seven is going to be awesome!
Mobile Dawg
July 11th, 2011
10:57 am
I think the “Red Shirt” should officially be declared dead in today’s times. A guy has one great season, or two good ones and he’s usually gone anyway. It’s a revolving door.
Mobile Dawg
July 11th, 2011
10:58 am
With the exception of injury.
tide roll
July 11th, 2011
11:00 am
Saban would have recruited the heck out of Cam if he were 45 minutes from our campus, like he was from yours,(Atlanta Westlake), and if his mentor since grade school had been a former offensive line starter like yours (Resty Beadles). But probably NOT AS A TIGHT END, like your Richt/Bobo braintrust did. Uga fans, there comes a point where you just have to shake our head, and admit how incredible all of this is. Your staff evaluated the greatest Combo QB. in the history of college football. the Heisman trophy winner, and the 1st player selected in the NFL draft as a Tight End. Since everybody’s asking questions, I’ve got one for you: How the hell does that happen? I think we all know the answer,and it’s been happening for ages at UGA!
Chip Towers
July 11th, 2011
11:00 am
JDawg1785: Ray Drew is an OLB. Likely “Will,” behind Cornelius Washington.
Chip Towers
July 11th, 2011
11:01 am
beebee’s girlfriend sleebee: Will be breaking down secondary tomorrow.
cmon man
July 11th, 2011
11:07 am
to squash rumors about ramik wilson and kent turene both players have been cleared to enroll in school. they graduated high school the first week of june so they could not enroll for the first session of summer school. wilson is on campus and turene has a family issue to take care of and will be in athens by the end of the week.
ATL Sports Fan
July 11th, 2011
11:19 am
Tide Roll your a racist. Your as racist as they come, its all about color for you. Who cares if UGA didn’t recruit Cam Newton. At the time they had former #1 overall pick Matthew Stafford at QB. So tell me why Saban didn’t recruit Newton out of Blinn? Instead he decided to stick with a non athletic QB with a noodle arm. Newton is a spread style QB and from watching Gruden grill him it doesn’t seem like he is that bright when it comes to the QB position. Newton is a run first QB, a pro style system is not a run first system. Heck look at Michael Vick. He has stated many times that he should have been more of a pass first QB when he first came into the league.
murfdawg
July 11th, 2011
11:20 am
Didn’t Georgia have a qb from Texas in 2006, who was pretty good at throwing the ball? I saw Newton in high school and he was amazing. Georgia had Stafford and was building the team around him. Newton was being touted as the next Tebow and fit the fl offense at the time. So I don’t think you could really say that the Dawgs whiffed by not signing Newton. Besides that, we didn’t have an extra lawyer to be assigned to him and his 13 traffic violations and “flying, painted computer problems”. Auburn got lucky for 90 days and made it pay off. Can we now talk about 2011?
tampabigDAWG
July 11th, 2011
11:22 am
Whoaaaa Nelly!!!. I am not worried about our front 7 on D this year. Scheme is being understood alot better and the players look a little more able. I just hope that the front 7 can make the DB’s better. Rambo and Hamilton aren’t going to cut it. We actually had a top 30 pass defense last year, except on third down. Some could argue that this goes to play calling also, which I can see, but I saw Rambo trot around so many time. Ogletree looked liked our best bet as DB and now he moved to ILB. He is a beast for sure. I bet he will be dropped deep alot in 3 down plays. Like urlacher on the bears, or bruski did back in the day. I wish CTG would use some of the schemes the steelers use on occasion. 3-3-5 and just push Tree back to safety for a play or two. Confusion is the key.
I am a die hard Dawg fan through and through, but the beginning of next year is scary. I know Boise St. doesn’t play near the competition as the SEC does yearly, and Stats say there D-Line is a little skinny in the tush, but they are gamers. I hope our O-Line can hold up and especially with our RB’s running away from us. I Didn’t like King coming out of HS, and Samuel was just a hopeful 2 side star in my mind, both showed skills but no conviction, same for Ealey. I will say I thought Ealey was going to be dynamite regardless the level he played in HS. I think our D can handle BSt Offense but can our Offense handle BSt D?
Just the opposite Applies to SC. SC has good CB’s but I think TE usage will help us with their week LB corps. But we all must admit Garcia is still a good QB, (Shaw pretty good too) Jefferey is as good as AJ was for us, Lattimore bulked up and will freaking run over our Secondary, our big boys on the Dline better slow him down. One good hit from a LB after a quick grab by Big John could atleast make him second guess some head drivers he had last year against us.
Whatcha think, especially AltamahaDawg. Only a few guys have good convos on here. And Chip what is your feelings on BSt D-Line.
CHDawg
July 11th, 2011
11:22 am
Great series, Chip. It is nice to refocus the gang on football. I think the only dimension I would have added is the unusual speed of the LB corps. They are very fast as a group. I believe Samuel was our fastest RB when Moreno was here, so he is very, very fast for an ILB. Washington is very fast for a guy his size, and Ogletree has safety speed. The neat thing about the 3-4 is the offense doesn’t know which LBs are the rushers, and CTG can blitz one frequently without sacrificing pass D. If they turn out to be good blitzers, their speed will be very tough on opposing QBs trying to throw. Imagine Samuel and Ogeltree in the middle–both may well be faster than the opposing backfield! Not that Robinson is slow by any means. My only concern is size and stopping power in the middle. Tree is one tough cookie, but we will have to wait to see how strong they are against runs. If our big NGs get in the O’s way really well that will help a lot. In fact, if we get great production out of our line, our LB’s speed could make them a special group this year. Let’s just hope on Jones. I liked his play and potential on GDay. Overall, speed is what strikes me as the standout feature of our LBs.
Chip Towers
July 11th, 2011
11:27 am
CHDawg: Good point. There is definitely a substantial improvement in speed among the linebackers. People forget that Richard Samuel, at 6-2, 243, is one of the fastest players on the team. Heck, he used to return kickoffs. Then you add Jarvis Jones, Alec Ogletree and T.J. Stripling. All those guys were high school sprinters. Take into account a bigger defensive front that’s loaded in the middle and those guys should have more room to operate. Again, hard to imagine dramatic improvement while losing the production UGA did but there is certainly that potential.
tide roll= al sharpton
July 11th, 2011
11:31 am
All of you have it wrong, tide roll is actually civil rights activist al sharpton. He has no actual football knowledge, but likes to try to paint Richt and Bobo as racists. He seems to find issues with our o-line having white people on it, and his most recent post suggest that UGA wanted to put Cam at TE because he is black and we only start white QB’s. In fact, his obsession really isn’t with Cam, he just likes talkng about tight ends…
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
11:32 am
Cam Newton needs to thank his lucky stars for Gus Malzahn. Gus Malzahn made Newton the #1 pick with his offense. Wanna know how good Malzahn is? Track the career of Mitch Mustain. As the HC of the High School team Mustain was on he was the # 1 player in the nation. Both went to Arkansas, mustain lead them to 8-0 then replaced by Casey Dick. Malzahn leaves for Tulsa, Mustain leaves for USC. Mustain never steps back on to the field in a meaningful game.
Newton and his combine workout very well could equal Mike Mamula in the ‘95 draft. Go look at how Newton stammered through calling a play when John Gruden asked him to on the combine show.
Beast from the East
July 11th, 2011
11:36 am
murfdawg,
Good post. No one, and I mean no one, had any idea Cam would have that type of year. I saw his potential while playing back-up to Tebow, but we’ve all seen tons of players with great potential that did not live up to their potential. Some recent examples could include Brantley, King, Ealey, etc. With Cam’s off-field problems at UF, I don’t blame anyone for not taking a chance on him the second time around.
NdawgC
July 11th, 2011
11:36 am
CHIP: what about T.J Stripling. is he playing D line or Linebacker?
tide roll
July 11th, 2011
11:37 am
Cam led Auburn to a National Title and clobbered you last year. Stafford led you to a 31-0 halftime deficit against us, and a 49-10 loss to Florida! Everyone in the SEC was embarrassed for UGA that year. Then you were at it again this past year with Colorado and Middle Florida! You humiliated the entire SEC!
Alabama | MrSEC.com
July 11th, 2011
11:44 am
[...] 1. This writer doesn’t think playing in the Georgia Dome has benefited Alabama as much as expected on the recruiting trail.2. In case you missed it over the weekend, Arkansas offensive tackle Anthony Oden was arrested for DWI and possession of a controlled substance. (He was arrested for a DWI last July as well.)3. Here’s a look-ahead to LSU’s game with Western Kentucky.4. Here’s a preview of Mississippi State’s game with Tennessee-Martin.5. And here’s a breakdown of Georgia’s linebacking corps. [...]
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
11:44 am
Everyone was really embarassed for you when Louisiana Monroe beat you. You embarrased the SEC. If you wanna go back, lets just include that one for ya also.
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
11:46 am
http://alabama.scout.com/2/185647.html
2008 only makes us even
2003 was a beatdown
knocked 2 QB’s out of the game
It was embarrassing. It happens tide roll so why don’t you just shutup now and crawl back into your NAACP hole
WDE
July 11th, 2011
11:48 am
Hey Tide Troll did you get any movement on that SEC HC gig this weekend? They have best pony up, camp is just around the corner and a number of these schools could sure use your services….Sarcasm live it love it !
RxDawg
July 11th, 2011
11:51 am
@tampabigDAWG
July 11th, 2011
11:22 am
Good post tampa. I agree with pretty much all of that.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
11:52 am
Just track the history of Bammer coaches pre SATAN
Shula- got the job because he was a legacy and a Shula
Price- Caught making it rain in Pensacola
Franchione- Left to go to Texas A&M! due to…
Dubose- Cheater and couldn’t keep his hands off his secretary
So yeah finally Alabama has the right coach to lead them. They sold there soul because of 15 years of embarassment to be lead by Satan himself.
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
11:52 am
UGAG is gitting the ncaa death penalty, he he ha ha
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You have us confused with Auburn hee hee ha ha
WDE
July 11th, 2011
11:57 am
Hey Tide Troll think all those games Bama had to vacate didn’t embarrased the SEC?? And yes Saban was a part of that!
RxDawg
July 11th, 2011
12:00 pm
Theres actually some decent football being discussed over here on the 3rd page
AltamahaDawg
July 11th, 2011
12:07 pm
well heck tampabigDawg, talk about pressure. Man, as much as I hate to punt, I just plain agree with pretty much all of that.
Especially the third down stat probably being the biggest thing that killed us. DB coverage got better as the year went on, we did start to get more pressure, but the D-line never ever controlled the situation, and we gave up too may 3rd downs. I believe they improve that.
DamntheButcher
July 11th, 2011
12:10 pm
Sam Mike Mo & Will What in the world? Which side is Mo on? Who’s on first? Is Will on 2nd? What a bunch of crap? I bet Dick Buttus is thinking this is so sissyfied.
DamntheButcher
July 11th, 2011
12:12 pm
Tide Roll…
That is Kinda like Alabama getting scattered, smothered & covered by Utah isnt it? I bet you want to forget about that game since you didnt mention it.
Barack Dawg
July 11th, 2011
12:23 pm
First off – get off the idea of moving players around from defense to offense like Samuels. He is staying at LB and not going to RB. He will be better off at LB and not moving back to RB again. If we have injuries then you worry about that. But you have other options for RB than Samuel. First of Malcolm and Crowell need to prove that they are not going to get it before you move anyone. 2nd – you evaluate Branden Smith and if he is going to play corner or Nick Marshall. You could use Marshall on both if necessary. Also – we need our existing receivers to step it up – Mitchell, King, Brown, and Bennett. The you have the TE situation to assist with that. If we have receivers that can’t be relied upon to be covered one on one then you can open things up and eliminate people in the box to stop the run. That is going to be the biggest question and what to expect from Boise and Carolina. If we can block and make some plays they will have to back off that. That means we need to be effective and efficient offensively. If our defense is stagnating like they could be then that will only further pressure teams to back off that approach on defense.
If you look back – last year that was what we faced most of the time was 8 guys in the box.
dawg from a distance
July 11th, 2011
12:26 pm
Tampa Dawg…. good insight.
I’m concerned with our unproven front 7. Great potential but unproven. I think RS needs to stay at LB with his speed and size. Vasser was a wreaking ball at the spring game so I’m not so sure it’s a major drop off but I hope we don’t have to find out.
We can’t afford another AJ distraction like last year but it appears the AJ hang over and the cancerous attitudes of single digit numbered players was too much to overcome.
Looking forward to a GREAT year! Go DAWGS!
how2fish
July 11th, 2011
12:31 pm
One thing I’d like to point out about last years tackle production….what percentage of those tackles were made 5-7 yards down field on running plays? How many of those tackles were made by the 2nd or 3rd guy to hit the ball carrier? Last year Lattimore looked like a bowling ball rolling thru would be tacklers. This year I think we might be able to get there faster and bring more wood to bear when we do. To be fair a lot of D-line’s play impacted the linebackers ability to get to the point of attack cleanly that should be plus this year…I hope.
OC_Dawg
July 11th, 2011
12:34 pm
You know the NCAA is going to screw us over as much as they can with Jarvis.
Dirty Dawg
July 11th, 2011
12:40 pm
Chip, do me a favor and ask CMR – when you go to him about other RBs he’s considering trying out – if Justin Scott-Wesley will be given a ‘look-see’. The kid’s got the speed, size and, apparently, moves and power to break tackles, to be a running back. Seems to me, if he’s also got the heart, tenacity and ability to hold onto the ball, they’d be crazy not to try him.
As for you people runnin’ down Georgia because they didn’t want to recruit Cameron Newton as a QB – that’s been answered, we were, and continue to, run a pro-style, two-back, offense that puts a premium on the QB’s ability to drop-back and find an open guy…which would have meant changing an entire offensive scheme at the same time you had an eventual #1 NFL pick at the position…plus, the kid was never coming to Georgia as Florida already had the ideal offense in place – by the way, he must have been pretty bad for UF to have let him go, and I’ll always wonder if his, ultimate, success at AU was the reason UMeyer decided to quit Florida, as he never wanted to kick him off the team in the first place – that having Newton as a back-up to Tebow would likely have given UF and UM another NC..
And as for what will ultimately happen at AU, we’ll see. Until I hear Cheesit or their AD say, ‘I swear on my Mother’s grave that we didn’t pay anybody anything to get Cam Newton to come to Auburn’, I won’t believe that they didn’t. All they ever say is, ‘he was eligible according to the NCAA, and there’s ‘no evidence’ that we did anything wrong…oh yeah, and ‘We’re all in.’ To believe otherwise is to believe that Cecil Newton, all of a sudden, had a ‘come to Jesus’ meeting with himself after he either turned down Miss State’s final offer, or was himself turned down by MS cause ‘the money was just too good’, and stopped pimpin’ his boy out to schools – yeah right.
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
12:45 pm
Paul n Destin
So let’s turn the tables here.
How do you explain the mediocrity in Tuscaloosa from 1995-2007?
No SEC West titles
No SEC titles
Victories vacated
Multiple coaches hired and fired
NCAA investigations galore
Greatest program in the history of college football goes that long in shambles?
How does that happen?
murfdawg
July 11th, 2011
12:47 pm
Beast from the East…..Thanks for the kind words. Are you guys really down to 70 scholarship players? I thought that was what Ackerman said on Talkin’ Football last week.
Roll Tide…..You are what I love about Bammer football. You have a terrific case of SELECTED AMNESIA. Didn’t Stafford beat you in overtime with a touchdown pass in ‘07? And didn’t Stafford and Moreno beat the Gators in ‘07? And weren’t you in NCAA jail for the first 5 or 6 years of this century? I guess if you forget something, then it just doesn’t count. Like forgetting the last girl you married was your cousin.
tide roll
July 11th, 2011
12:47 pm
Don’t you guys see? It’s Bobo who’s conflicted.
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
1:01 pm
tide troll
Bobo is doing his job.
The key to 2011 for UGA is defensive improvement. How did 4 of the last 5 BCS champions win the majority of their games? Defense. Even Auburn had to shut down Oregon in the title game because their offense wasn’t clicking like normal.
If Grantham gets the PPG from 22 down to 14 or 15, Bobo could be married to Richt’s wife and no one will notice because we will be WINNING
Chip Towers
July 11th, 2011
1:10 pm
NdawgC: Stripling playing OLB but currently not yet cleared from knee injury. Should be during preseason camp or sometime shortly thereafter.
Again, some questions too hot for Tide Roll to answer
July 11th, 2011
1:12 pm
TR has expressed his opinion of UGA and Cam Newton many times, but I cannot get an answer from him about Bama’s recruitment or non-recruitment of Newton. If he answers the questions below, it boxes him in- game, set, match, checkmate. I predict these questions will be ignored in favor of a tirade against UGA.
1. After Cam’s JUCO stint, choose one:
A. Saban was outrecruited by Chizik
B. Saban had his reasons for not recruiting Newton
(If B is correct, don’t give me that stuff about distance. Saban regularly recruits players that are farther off than Westlake, and incidentally Westlake is more than 45 minutes from Athens, not that it matters.)
2. Coming out of JUCO, do you think Saban shared your view of Newton as a great QB, and if he did, why do you think he did not recruit him at Bama?
3. Do you think Saban is a good evaluator of talent?
4. If Saban chooses to start AJ McCarron, do you think it is because Saban thinks he is the best QB on the roster at the present time?
5. If Saban chooses to start McCarron, are you okay with that?
If Tide Roll does not forthrightly answer these questions, would some Bama fan give me an answer as to whether or not Bama did recruit Newton? Last week, one said Smart implied the Tide passed on him due to baggage, this was at a boosters club meeting. Would like confirmation one way or the other.
Dawg Tired
July 11th, 2011
1:13 pm
Well, if having to use one backup is deemed to be a problem, our recruiting sux. Chase Vasser was highly thought of when recruited and now he’s a liability? What is the deal?
1SG
July 11th, 2011
1:14 pm
Chip…how will Crowell and B. Smith play on offense with the same number? I thought they could share the same number as long as B.Smith played on defense only.
Thanks.
Chip Towers
July 11th, 2011
1:15 pm
tampabigDAWG: Boise State’s defensive line was considered one of the best in college football and it returns three of four starters and will start all seniors. So I would say it’s the strength of their team and will be the most challenging matchup for Georgia in that game. As you know, the Dogs are going to battle with a reshuffled and largely unproven O-line.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
1:16 pm
I dont care who Bobo is married to and we are coming off a 6-7 season. Who he is married to is nobodys business regardless of our record for better or worse. Also if you think the reason he is hanging around is simply for that in the landscape of todays college football then you need to wake up. Bobo may have some questionable moments, but if we were fans of another SEC school and payed as close attention to the as we do UGA then I imagine we could find the same type argument. Dont let that petty argument distract you.
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tide roll
July 11th, 2011
1:18 pm
Bobo married to anyone other than Dooley’s niece is what you want.
Saban
July 11th, 2011
1:19 pm
Wish all my fans lived and worked in Alabama like Tide Roll but there are just too few jobs in the BBQ places here in Bama! Probably name the stadium after me soon! Can’t wait to cut those losers that we over-signed!
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
1:22 pm
Look just because Bobo didnt meet his wife at a cow auction where you met your wife does not mean you have to hate on him.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
1:22 pm
She thought it was MOOOOO Tide……….
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
1:30 pm
Rivals report today shows UGA as the only football program in the country that has had a top 10 recruiting class in each of the last 10 years. So like it or not, there is a problem with the coaching. I know some of you don’t like to put stock in recruit rankings, but it’s the same rankings other coaches are recruiting based on as well. So that excuse is just a cop out!
SEC Fan
July 11th, 2011
1:31 pm
No excuses Georgia fans……you better beat Boise. Georgia has this one shot to prove it belongs on the same field with Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, USCe, Florida and not Ole Miss and Vandy. Do the league a solid and show up for this game. Don’t embarass yourselves and the SEC with another Colorado/UCF preformance……GO SEC!!!
Justin Scott Wesley
July 11th, 2011
1:33 pm
Definitely has the size and speed, but from talking to someone who lives in Mitchell County, I would say he has more track speed than football speed, in that don’t think he is very shifty.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
1:35 pm
Same level as USCe? What did they do outsdie of win the SEC East in a down year? How did they fair in the SECTG? How did they fair in the Peach Bowl? One good year does not constitute arrival, where one year does not constitute a medioric decline. Please with all this USC bullcrap. We were 6-7 last year and if Ealey doesnt fumble on the 4 yard line the game would have played out toally different. USC has a ton to prove this year. They are looking to prove last year was no fluke. UGA can say the same thing,but UGA is far from being Ole Miss.
LogicalUS
July 11th, 2011
1:36 pm
Is anyone else noticing a huge evident trend in these recurring articles???
A whole lot of “if and buts were candy & nuts, it will be a wonderful Christmas” to these rundowns of the 2011 UGA football future.
If high school RBs can be the next Herchel, if JUCO DL are the next this or if former safeties magically become Ray Lewis, if all 5 of available OL can play every single snap, then all the UGA homers at the AJC willl be just lovin life.
How did this program which has boasted of endlessly about dominating every recruiting season and cherry picking the nation for every quality football player around suddenly become the UAB of the SEC?
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
1:37 pm
You can rest assured that you will never get direct answers from NAACP boy tide troll.
Other questions he won’t answer:
1.) Why won’t you EVER list a white OL as a great prospect?
2.) Why won’t you EVER discuss family preference and other personal circumstances involved with why an OL prospect from Georgia signs with another school?
3.) Why do you only list black OL as Rimington Award nominees and only listed Ben Jones AFTER I prodded you to do so.
You can also rest assured that after McCarron loses a game, tide roll will be all about Sims playing QB and will start spouting how Andrew Zow and Walter Lewis got bad raps during their time at Alabama.
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
1:38 pm
Logical is very Illogical
sc fan
July 11th, 2011
1:39 pm
First congrats on keeping things on football instead of gutter garbage. I enjoy the insight that shows up from different teams here. Outsiders perspective. Boise is the toughest game and most important on your schedule. 1. They are VERY good! 2. They have months to prepare. 3. They have another chance on the national stage. It does not matter that ga won 100- 0 5 years ago . Sept. is now. If you win in Atlanta, it will be a good season. USC may be tough but the game is always expected to be tough. The young players will be shocked if they lose to BOISE. Could mean a tailspin against us.
After a USC win you will get back in the saddle. Unfortunately you will not make it to Atlanta twice. You have talent and average coaching but Richt lacks the most important thing. GOOD LUCK. Without that struggles always arise. (see USC) good luck for 11 games.
Nate the Great
July 11th, 2011
1:41 pm
@ LogicalUS: While I agree with all of what you had to say, UAB does pretty well in there conference. What you need to say is UGA will join Kentucky and Vandy, which we have done.
tide roll
July 11th, 2011
1:42 pm
You better believe Bobo’s wife shares the same interests as her aunt.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
1:42 pm
Alabama was soooo desperate to win after 15 years of being irrelevant, that after only 3 years with one MNC Saban is getting a statue in his honor. That speaks volumes as to how desperate Alabama fans are. They sold there souls to Saban.
Hear tell at Alabama redneck convention the popular belief is that if Saban coached Andrew Zow it would be Zow married to Sara Evans and not Jay Barker.
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
1:43 pm
Hey Dawgin Lex – maybe Richt is the one you should make those NAACP comments about. He just paseed on a white LB who’s fast than his black WR commit. I mean really, aren’t there white LB’s in the NFL. And you can probably guess my race, but hey I want the best players regardless of Color.
tide roll
July 11th, 2011
1:45 pm
Ans. to question 1. Because there are none, including your next great hope: Theus.
SEC Fan
July 11th, 2011
1:45 pm
Lowcountry, your USCe comment is noted and not entirely disagreed upon. The Ole Miss comparison may be a bit hard to swallow but look at the similarities. Both Ole Miss and UGA had losing seasons in 2010 along with Vandy so to eliminate yourselves from the comparisons you need to prove yourselves on the field and quit choking/underachieving. Unlike Vandy and Ole Miss UGA has the talent needed to play winning football. So what’s the problem? Could it be the coaching staff?
Nate the Great
July 11th, 2011
1:45 pm
@tide roll: Dereck Dooley?
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
1:47 pm
Right the problem with Boise is 9 months to get ready for this singular game. Then another what 6 weeks for another big game? This is the reason I believe any 1 lose team from a power conference should always go ahead of a undefeated Boise team. Easy to get up for 1-2 games a year. Go do it week in week out and see how you fair.
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
1:51 pm
tide roll
1.) Because there are none?
Did you actually write that?
Oh my God you really are a racist. Look in the NFL Rev Sharpton, there are plenty of white OL.
I hope you weren’t serious.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
1:52 pm
One year cannot compare the programs. Coaching at times appears underwhelming, but how many BCS games has UGA appeared in compared to Vandy and Ole Miss? How many bowl appearances has Vandy had since 1981? Ole Miss has not been the same since Billy Brewer was coach!
UGA this decade has proved itself to be a franchise program for College Football. One year, if you wanna say two fine, but this entire decade CMR has stamped this Program as legitimate. I am not one that says we did so well 8 years ago that it is a forgone conclusion that we will again, but I like our history of bouncing back over a Vandy or a Ole Miss.
truedawg
July 11th, 2011
1:54 pm
CHIP,
What about Bailey? I have seen this kid many times and he is a nice kid, humble but very tallented and hard working think we’ll see him any this year? Also have to agree with some who said Samuel is better at LB. He’s just not in a RB mind set, He wants to hit someone, not make them miss. With the speed UGA has at LB will we be seeing alot more of Blitz. You’d think with the sub parr play last year in our secondary that we should try and make the QB make some bad throws. I still gte nightmares about the ARK game last drive. I also hate to sound like some say UGA fans sound, but “Can you imagine how good this Defense will be next year?” Go DAWGS!!!
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
1:56 pm
lowcountry
Richt raised the bar. Some of these idiots are like Florida fans, they have selective and short memories. None of the idiots talk about 2002, 2003,2004,2005 or 2007 where we were top 10 nationally and either won the SEC or came dam close. Florida fans think football was invented in 1990. Bama fans forget about 1995-2007 where they sucked and hired and fired coaches and vacated wins.
Richt has to win now or the next coach will get his chance in 2012
tide roll
July 11th, 2011
1:56 pm
Ok. I’ll give you this one. Ben Jones. Just kidding. He’s a cut blocking tub of lard who starts only to keep you Georgia fans satisfied. And stop pretending you don’t know what I mean.
Nate the Great
July 11th, 2011
1:56 pm
I don’t buy the Boise only has one game to get up for excuse. We have the same amount of time to prepare for them as they do for us. Bag the whole “finish the drill” motto and implement the “no excuses” motto. We can ruin their season in week one, but we still have USC to play the next week. Despite what most people say about us having more on the line, they have a lot more to lose. Most people expect them to win and us to fire our coach by the end of October.
Any SEC fan would lose to Boise St and win the SEC, but what would that say about the SEC?
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
1:56 pm
Look for Chips response to Bailey he has answered it TWICE.
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
1:58 pm
tide roll
you want to discuss why only white QB’s win super Bowls?
Cuts both ways you know.
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
2:01 pm
tide roll
I truly feel sorry for you. Must be a sad sheltered existence you live.
Either that or you are just plain stupid.
Either way it is really sad and pathetic.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
2:01 pm
Nate,
They only get up for this game for a month into the entire season! Boise has a open date after the game then travel to Toldeo, host Tulsa, host Nevada, at Fresno St, at Colorado St , host Air Force, at UNLV before finally playing TCU on get this….. November 5th. So yes the assessment they get up for 1 game is more than accurate.
corey
July 11th, 2011
2:02 pm
Chip whats the word on Devin Bowman?
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
2:03 pm
UGA is implenting game plans for both Boise St and prepping for South Carolina. Tide Roll is very funny. I give him that. I think he is a former OL player who rode the bench for 4 years at UGA in a past life and is utterly bitter as a man.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
2:05 pm
Th word is he prefers vowels over consonants.
truedawg
July 11th, 2011
2:05 pm
no sir, I don’t see Bailey mentioned. I wondered if her will move to end with his size, or outside or inside.
We know the state of football in Athens. We know where its been, and that it cna get better, or worse. Seen the same thing in other SEC programs. CMR will get it right, or move along. If he leaves though with the tallent in Athens now, if Richt isn’t there next year the new coach will be playing for a NC. only two real weakness on the team, OL and Secondary. With one more year recuiting and experience, that will improve. GO DAWGS!!!
how2fish
July 11th, 2011
2:11 pm
tide roll you do know that Coach Bobo married before he ever went to work for CMR and UGA don’t you there troll boy?
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
2:13 pm
how2fish
don’t try to list facts
He doesn’t care.
how2fish
July 11th, 2011
2:16 pm
DawginLex yeah I know but bringing a coaches family into a blog debate is in my mind akin to fans throwing rocks and making death threat to Coach Bill Curry and his family…wait a minute those were Bama fans too…
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
2:17 pm
Man we need like buttons for these posts because I would have clicked it on that post how2.
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
2:17 pm
Some people here are very sensitive and read racial posts were there aren’t any. I mean if I were criticizing UGA rb’s over the last 4 years, then if someone wanted, they could say , I’m just criticizing black players, but if I criticize UGA full backs over that same span some of you might say, i’m just criticizing white players. Bottom line is if they aren’t getting it done, regardless of what color they are, then they aren’t getting it done.
truedawg
July 11th, 2011
2:18 pm
Tide roll,
You always start off talking football and most times you make sense, then you just start bashing. You come here to talk football, or talk trash? We have problems at UGA. but Bama has problems too, honnestly don’t you think Bama really underachived last year?
GO DAWGS!!!
truedawg
July 11th, 2011
2:20 pm
true that Bernie! black or white or an asian with some size is welcome on our line. we need all the help we can get at any position!
Beast from the East
July 11th, 2011
2:22 pm
GatorSports has Aaron Murry as the #9 ranked player in the SEC.
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20110711/ARTICLES/110719971?tc=cr
RxDawg
July 11th, 2011
2:24 pm
“Rivals report today shows UGA as the only football program in the country that has had a top 10 recruiting class in each of the last 10 years. So like it or not, there is a problem with the coaching.”
So coaching is the only possiblity? There is no way that some of those recruits were overrated? There is no way that we could of lost 18 major players due to injury one season? There is no way we could of just had some really bad luck?
AdMan
July 11th, 2011
2:25 pm
tide roll..Mike Price wants to know what time your picking him up tonight…he says to tell you if you get there early you can get a seat next to the stage….Bama girl goes on at 8:00pm and she’s bringing her dog that she painted up to look like an alligator…the dog came from a litter that Sabans wife’s dog had and was given to her by Saban’s second cousin…..Shula and Dubose will hold seats if you can’t get there on time…..tide roll you have got to be the biggest loser ever ….a real moma’s boy if there ever was one…..more like a candya$$ know-it-all with absolutely no friends.
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
2:28 pm
RxDawg – you should go into politics. You handled my post perfectly for someone wanting to mislead everyone else. TRY PUTTING THE ENTIRE POST INTO QUOTATION! You know the part about every other program having to recruit under the same so call ranking pretense. Bottom line if the rankings are wrong, you still have to blame your coaches for not being able to evaluate talent.
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
2:31 pm
RxDawg- As for your crying about bad luck and players getting hurt – that why they hand out 85 schollies a year.
Beast from the East
July 11th, 2011
2:34 pm
murfdawg,
The last I heard we are down to about 70-71 scholarship players. I’m sure there are some walk-ons that are licking their chops at the prospect of getting a scholly. We’re gonna have some depth problems this year on both lines. Look to be okay as far as depth everyhwere else, but still a very young team overall.
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
2:40 pm
78 schollies right now. And coaches can’t control situations like C. King, but I sure as heck would not have called Washaun into my office for that meeting, not knowing if Caleb had done what he needed to do. Sometimes coaches have to know how to manage people, even if they are more work to mange than others. That’s why they get paid those millions!
WDE
July 11th, 2011
2:42 pm
@Bernie Matt question how many times did UGA end up in the top 10 in those years? How many SEC championships? You make it sound like in the 10 years you quoted we have not had any success, who’s the politician?
RedandBlackDAWG
July 11th, 2011
2:43 pm
The Cam Newton question seems to me to be, would UGA have changed their whole offensive scheme for 1 player. I think the same might be true for Alabama. He went to Florida originally because, he fit into their scheme. He was to be the heir apparent to T. Tebow. Had he kept his nose clean, who knows what he might have meant for the gators. He fit into Auburns scheme since they had a new head coach for the most part, and he had not really put his signature on the offense as of yet. He wanted to win so they built a scheme for Cam Newton. It worked, end of story.
as for all of these comments from this Tide roll guy. You folks do realize if you do not give him an audience and ignore him, he will simply go away. Starve a fire and it goes away. You are feeding him and allowing him to get you to respond. He is free to spout anything he wants on here as it is Chip’s column, and he can decide what falls in the region of poor taste. Just ignore him folks. A person who talks to himself usually gets the hint.
Now, I believe if our big uglies jam up the O line for the opponent, our linebackers have the size and speed to make this a really decent front seven for UGA. If you can’t run up the middle, you have to go to the outside right? If our LB’s use their size and speed, and tackle well, we control the run. If you clog up the middle and push that line back or at least force them to double team you, the QB, has a lot less times to read his progressions because he never knows what LB is going to get a clean shot at him. I have watched Garcia for three years and he is a decent QB as long as he is not pressured. Pressure him and he throws picks and makes unwise decisions. Almost any QB who is not especially mobile, doesn’t like to be hounded and will make poor decisions if you turn up the heat. There are not that many Cam Newtons out there. He thought run first and pass second most of the time and was good enough to pull it off.
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
2:46 pm
WDE – In the words of the great Ricky Bobby – If you aint first, you last! See you are indicative of the mindset that is far too prevalent for a program in a State that produces as much talent as Georgia. NOBODY CARES WHO AUBURN BEAT FOR THE TITLE last year! They only care that Auburn won it!
AltamahaDawg
July 11th, 2011
2:46 pm
Rivals aught to check thier own website , which had UGA ranked as #15 year before last.
WDE
July 11th, 2011
2:49 pm
@Bernie Matt that’s the biggest load of bs on planet Earth…you mean your a fan and you can never enjoy your team’s success unless you win the MNC ?? That makes you a narcissist not a football fan!
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
2:51 pm
@WDE – No son, that makes me a winner! Sorry your dad didn’t teach you that.
Beast from the East
July 11th, 2011
2:54 pm
WDE,
I’m with ya. By that logic, I would have only enjoyed watching the Gators in 96, 06 and 08. Can’t win ‘em all, but I still enjoy watching ‘em…….except last year. Man, that was PAINFUL!
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
2:55 pm
@WDE – know what’s funny! I f you are at any level of Management in what ever line of work your in. I guarantee you don’t settle for under performing employees, who look at you and say, “well, I tried”. If you do your company is doomed!
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
2:58 pm
Problem with us though, is that we keep shelling out good money for those season tickets, for an employee who keeps looking at us and telling us he tried.
WDE
July 11th, 2011
3:02 pm
@Bernie Matt what that makes you is a bandwagon fan and frankly Auburn will be better off without you after they fail to repeat next year. And on what scale does not winning the MNC equate to under performing? Where on any coaches list of responsibility’s does it state he has to win the MNC? Think that was in Chiz’s contract, think the Visor or Saban have that written in their contracts ?
Nate the Great
July 11th, 2011
3:03 pm
Guys cut out the bad luck comments on past UGA seasons. Luck is the residue of design and we have had really bad design these past three years. Period. “Bad luck” is a losers mentality. We have a bad game plan comprised with bad conditioning, that’s where the “bad luck” is coming from.
I hope these guys throw out the notion of luck and win with hard work and proper game preparations.
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
3:05 pm
@WDE – unfortunately son, you are still missing the point. But it’s a lesson you should have been taught by someone else at a much earlier age. So…..
WDE
July 11th, 2011
3:08 pm
@Nate the Great agree with most of that preparation or lack there of cures most bad luck, however injuries are not bad luck they are injuries and the 08 squad was decimated by them. 09 and last year not so much luck as bad execution.
WDE
July 11th, 2011
3:13 pm
@Bernie Matt my father told me to always do what was right and remember my families name and honor at all costs. I was taught that might does not make right, and the end does not always make the means justified. Your word is your bond and “There is only one thing that endures, and that is character “…that is what I was taught.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
3:14 pm
WDE,
Stop arguing the the guy who quoted Ricky Bobby.
1SG
July 11th, 2011
3:15 pm
How will Crowell and B. Smith play on offense with the same number? I thought they could share the same number as long as B.Smith played on defense only.
WDE
July 11th, 2011
3:17 pm
@Lowcountry Bulldawg point well taken. LOL
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
3:20 pm
@ WDE – that’s what the natives were teaching their young before that first ship got here and we started moving them out. It all sounds real good!
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 11th, 2011
3:28 pm
Who said they would in the first place? BrandEn Smith will spell Crowell and Malcombe. He is going to be used in shotgun formations or in Wildcat formations.
Also what the Hell do Natives and teaching have to do with if are LB are going to knock someone out or not? Think Bernie Matt needs to ship on out.
AltamahaDawg
July 11th, 2011
3:31 pm
Appearantly BM was taught that his winning is directly proportional to the degree that somebody else did it all.
DawginLex
July 11th, 2011
3:36 pm
rip van tinkle
Georgia has won an SEC title or 2 since 1980. Try 1981,1982,2002 and 2005.
Florida didn’t win anything until 1990.
Beauty contest titles are won by a vote. SEC titles are won on the field.
1SG
July 11th, 2011
3:41 pm
Lowcountry….I thought there was a rule that the same number could be used on the roster as long as the player was not interchanging between offense and defense? How do they track the player?
RxDawg
July 11th, 2011
3:44 pm
Bernie, your trying to simplify a complex situation with a simple one sided answer (UGA’s coaches are bad). Not to sound like a Nerd, there are a lot of variables and they can’t just be hung on the coaches.
TO
July 11th, 2011
3:44 pm
Are you going to redo your rb write up? LOL
Just another example of how the end product/result = fail at the uga
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1238729
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
3:45 pm
Now Back to our regularly scheduled program. Nobody remembers who came in second! As for someone else having done it all. Trust me, we know who did it all. And for no pay on top of that! Now look at them. White House and all, don’t it just make you mad!
AltamahaDawg
July 11th, 2011
3:51 pm
Them? ah now, don’t be modest.
Big Dawg
July 11th, 2011
3:51 pm
Tide Roll,
With all due respect Samuel was a disaster at running back, he made one good run the rest of the time he was going down even when he wasn’t touched. Also he missed a lot of blocks as well. Samuel should have NEVER been tried at running back and that is just a fact and it has hurt his progression at linebacker.
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
3:53 pm
AltamahaDawg, you caught that, huh. Man I like you!
dapperdanman
July 11th, 2011
3:59 pm
Thunder Dome!!!!
This Sept. 3 in Atlanta, we Georgians (and Dawg Fans) have the opportunity to make a statement.
This may be the most pivotal game we play in deciding our outcome this season. Even if we were to win out the remainder of our schedule and win the SEC championship (the best you could hope for after a loss in the opener), we would not play in a National Championship if Boise remained undefeated, or anybody else for that matter, thus ending the SEC streak with the title game. Well this just can’t happen. We must win. Not because we think we should because we are the bigger program from the SEC and that should be enough to win. Not because we think we can play in a National Championship if we do. Our toughest games will be still to come. It is not because they think they will destroy us since they beat Va Tech last year right before James Madison did and “this isn’t the same team we beat in 2005”. It is because… THIS IS OUR HOUSE. THIS IS IN OUR STATE, IN OUR CAPITAL. THIS IS OUR COCA~COLA. THAT IS OUR DAMN CHICKEN SANDWICH. Do they even have Chic-fil-a in Boise?
When Boise St comes to the Georgia Dome to face us, we the fans have a responsibility to do our part to help our team. If you have ever been to the Dome you know how loud it can be. It is our job to make the walls crumble from our thunderous roar!!!!!!!!! Anytime the Boise offense is on the field it is our job to make as much noise as you’ve ever made. STAY ON YOUR FEET between plays still SCREAMING with all your might. STOMP THE GROUND and CLAP YOUR HANDS. SHAKE YOU KEYS. Bring those CRYING BABIES that you always bring to restaurants. Take off your belts, fold them in half, hold both ends, move your hands in then pull away making the belt pop. Try it, pretty loud. I don’t care if you wear tap shoes. We might take some heat for it if we all showed up in tap shoes, but that would make a ton of noise. Just sayin…
The point is we help win games too. We help motivate our kids to sell out body and mind for us and we strike fear and confusion into the other team. Though our part is nothing to what the players’ and coaches’ roles are, we must still show up prepared and ready to give our all, just like we expect from the team every Saturday. I don’t care if the score is 100-0, we don’t quit making noise or leave early. I want the TV announcers to show the noise meter at the Dome showing new records. Noise can cause miscommunication with play calling, unheard check-offs or audibles from the QB or sidelines, missed kicks, penalties, and turnovers. It can strike fear into the other team and kill momentum. We don’t need to take our feet off the gas, on the field or in the stands, till the game is over and we get that chicken dinner.
I WANT THAT CHICKEN DINNER!!!!!!!!
Then I want to eat chicken again the next week.
Don’t let me down Dawg Fans.
Don’t let our team down.
We will only become champions with each other. Standing behind one another proudly and united. It’s time to bring the noise. GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
murfdawg
July 11th, 2011
4:10 pm
Beast from the East……Where did the other 15-25 players go? NFL, injuries, academics. There is no way you should be below 90. Don’t want to scare you but UGA has be treading close to that 75 number since 2008. This year I think we are back up to about 95, counting the incoming freshmen. Where this will hurt is in October, when you will lose one player a game to injury every week.(except when you play the Dawgs). I’ll be watching the injury report from Gainesville closely this year.
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
4:16 pm
@RxDawg – I’m not only saying the coaches are bad, just some of them. By the same token not all of our players are bad, just some of them, but then that means, coaches are bad at evaluating talent or coaching talent. Depth charts should not just be for show. If one guy doesn’t get it done, go to the next guy. If you go through the depth chart and no one can get it done, then you tell me, where should you point the finger then.
Beast from the East
July 11th, 2011
4:16 pm
murfdawg,
Lots of transfers, a couple kicked off, etc. That’s to be expected when you have the massive coaching turnover we’ve had the past couple of years. Kinda makes you want to go the oversigning route like some other schools, huh?
Bernie Matt
July 11th, 2011
4:18 pm
By the way, all the other schools are giving out 85 schoolies as well, at some point coaches have to distinguish themselves. Otherwise, why the huge contracts?
Van Winkles Rip
July 11th, 2011
4:20 pm
DumbinLex, The REAL SEC Championship was not decided until their was a Championship Game and when did that start Wise One?
ga gator
July 11th, 2011
4:24 pm
murfdawg I mostly agree with you; we are as thin on the line of scrimmage as we have been in years. I blame this on Urban in his quest to load up the team with speed (which we have plenty of). I expect the star of the 2011 team to be Trey Burton who will be used playing about 6 different positions.
AltamahaDawg
July 11th, 2011
4:27 pm
Why would you expect coach turnover to lead to player turnover, just of itself? That sounds right at first, but then to think about it, the guys aren’t leaving just BECAUSE the coach changed. They left because of some factor(s) associated with the the coaching changes. Any idea what reasons they are giving?
Delbert D.
July 11th, 2011
4:29 pm
Will Georgia be starting 7 linebackers this year too?
Old Dawg
July 11th, 2011
4:31 pm
WTF – why does something that happened when Jarvis Jones was being recruited by and then playing for USC have anything to do with his eligibility at Georgia?
Van Winkles Rip: and, lest I forget, conference champions from years prior to the SEC dividing into divisions or any other conference champions are in the record books … so they’re REAL and OFFICIAL. The first SEC championship game was played in 1992 at Birmingham’s Legion Field with Alabama beating Florida.
Nuff said.
AltamahaDawg
July 11th, 2011
4:34 pm
The SEC championship was always determined on the field. Never a vote. The divisional format did not start the REAL to it. By your logic, the big 10 has never had a champion.
Beast from the East
July 11th, 2011
4:38 pm
AltamahaDawg,
Each kid has their own reason, but as you know, they develop relationships with the coaches throughout the recruiting process. This is several years in many cases. Then you have discipline issues that a new coach usually cracks down harder on than their predecessor to set a tone. Lastly, a totally different philosophy on offense. At this point, it is what it is and we’ll have to suit up with what we have. The good news is that a ton of underclassmen will get some significant amount of playing time in Muschamp’s first year, so 2012 and 2013 should be much better…….SHOULD BE!
Bob
July 11th, 2011
4:50 pm
Fellow Dawg fans…what can you tell me about Kent Turene. I remember his name as a committment, but can’t remember any specifics. Thanks!
CHDawg
July 11th, 2011
4:56 pm
Checked back in and found some good football comments! Noticed several comments about BSU, especially Chip mentioning how strong their D line is…you want to see something interesting: go over to one of the recruiting pages and call up Boise, then look at their rankings and stars for the last few years. Amazing that they can establish a dominant program with a bunch of 2 and 3 stars! Also, BSU’s is significantly smaller. Some of the people think Murray’s too short, but look at Moore–6′ & 186 on the chart I looked at! That kid can play. It is an amazing testament to the coaching and to the kids on BSU that they compete so well against programs with vastly higher rated HS talent! Some of it may be that they have been belittled so much that when they get Georgia or VA Tech on National TV, they view it as a life and death game, while the bigger program doesn’t take it as seriously because they are one big game among many. The Dawgs better get excited, and not get distracted this year. The Broncos know how to bring it. I guess you have to be good playing on that awful blue field!
CHDawg
July 11th, 2011
5:00 pm
Make that BSU is significantly smaller…and one other point–looks like BSU might even be favored to beat us in this one!
Black Mountain Bulldog
July 11th, 2011
5:13 pm
I just checked out the Walk On Brandon Hartons’ highlights, on you tube. He reminds me of Thomas Brown. This kid could be a diamond, in the rough! Yeah it’s hot outside and I am bored, but you guys should check this kid out.
Stinger2
July 11th, 2011
5:19 pm
Chip is providing a lot of interesting info. about UGA football for 2011. The bottom line is UGA will do well and finish the regular season as SEC East champion. A 10-2 record is likely. As a GT fan, I do like to follow UGA and wish them well until the last Sat. in November.
GA_BOI 24/7_365
July 11th, 2011
5:45 pm
Tha Dawgs Lb’s are very young and inexperieced but they still should be very interesting to watch throughout the season though those 1st 2 games will tell who they really are. Hopefully they are who we think they are! LOL
Beast from the East
July 11th, 2011
6:02 pm
“Cops: Ward swayed, couldn’t say ABCs before arrest”
Wasn’t this resolved after the Jan Kemp case? LOL!
I just couldn’t help myself, as this was way too easy. For the record, I love watching Hines Ward play. In fact, he’s probaly my favorite NFL player because of his “lunch pail” approach to all aspects of the game.
ugab
July 11th, 2011
6:08 pm
Samuel was always the best back to me. Samuel did have a technique problem and fumbled a couple of times. What back hasn’t fumbled at UGA?. We have a ex WR as a RBs coach, who does not teach any technique. Looks like he is not good at keeping up with his players well being. Nick Sabans team takes care of the ball and plays defense!!!! MR is making alot of money. Why is he still at Uga. Who else is there to be the dawgs coach? Who Knows. MR came from FSU and there were many problems there too
THE Dixie Redcoat Band
July 11th, 2011
6:09 pm
When Auburn fans toss toilet paper on those trees, is it used toilet paper ?
ugab
July 11th, 2011
6:11 pm
Samuel is another one of MRs victims! He could have started 4 years at another school. MR takes a hot rb out if a game and puts a back in the game whom has not played all day. WTF.
ugab
July 11th, 2011
6:15 pm
It is going to be another horrible season. Why would MR start off with Boise and SC? He has never had his team ready at the beginning of the season. It take like 4 to 5 games for a MRs team to get in any kind of rhythm. AND THAT IS THE HONEST TO GOD TRUTH
RedandBlackDAWG
July 11th, 2011
6:55 pm
Ugab,
At his spring meetings conference in Destin Fl. CMR said they scheduled Boise State because for the past few years, UGA had lost some respect and he thought it would be a good way to open and hopefully get that respect back.
I don’t think the individual SEC schools control the conference schedule.
Poopdawg
July 11th, 2011
7:23 pm
Ugab, pretty new to game of football? Samuel had no business touching a ball with his hands and vision. That why god made linebackers.
bitter "OLE" School Dogs-fan
July 11th, 2011
7:33 pm
after working 10 long hours and seeing tolit paper tide take 2 lines to show that every time he
opens his mouth————-maggits fly out——————–your “R” the comfirmed leader of the
——————————————–TROLL NATION—————–hahahahah—–loooooser
bitter "OLE" School Dogs-fan
July 11th, 2011
7:44 pm
————-the deal with bringing in JOE T, would thin out the spoiled 4@5 star recruits
—————————-like eally and king–ect————-gone with the wind
————————————like a nasty fart after eating pinto beans————-hahahahahahah
RJ Voorhees
July 11th, 2011
7:57 pm
Georgia fans are gonna have plenty of reasons to be excited in the next couple weeks!! Go Dawgs!
PeePants the hobo clown
July 11th, 2011
9:20 pm
I’m pretty sure Vasser got a medical and is done.
PeePants the hobo clown
July 11th, 2011
9:23 pm
@UGab I disagree. Samuel had countless opportunites to make something happen.He’s very,very fast,but no lateral movement and no moves to speak of,not o mention he ran straight up which was why he took some serious shots. Love the player,but RB was not for him.
Chip Towers
July 12th, 2011
12:22 am
corey: Last I heard on Devin Bowman was he was at UGA. Kent Turene was the only signee (besides JUCO-bound Chris Mayes, of course) who hadn’t made it to town yet. But I have to be honest, I don’t pay a lot of attention to that mid-summer. This is just from passing conversations. The only time freshman presence is pertinent is when they’re scheduled to report the first week of August. We’ll see who shows up then.
Chip Towers
July 12th, 2011
12:25 am
Lowcountry Bulldawg, truedawg: Sterling Bailey is super young man and a fine football player. He’s coming off early-spring shoulder surgery and plans to be available in preseason. But Georgia won’t know how much he can do until he gets his preseason physical.
Chip Towers
July 12th, 2011
12:26 am
1SG: Crowell and Smith can’t play together on offense as long as they’re both wearing No. 1 jerseys.
7576DAWG
July 12th, 2011
12:39 am
CHIP
Does practice start on August 1st and do you know if it will be open to the public?
Do you expect any updates on Jones anytime soon?
Stinger2
July 12th, 2011
4:12 am
I have always thought that any player (yes, including GT`s Reggie Ball) who wears No. 1 has a huge ego and is looking for special attention.
savannadawg
July 12th, 2011
7:01 am
Chip, How do you know the drop ffrom Jones to Vasser would be steep and moving Samuel to outside would be difficult.You are just pulling stuff out of your rear end. It’s football not Rocket science or brain surgery, so please try to stick to the facts and be a little more possitive. We are going to just fine.
Jimmy Crack
July 12th, 2011
7:18 am
Scott Eichler.
RxDawg
July 12th, 2011
8:12 am
Bernie, I guess I’m just not quite ready to point any fingers. Am I happy with 6-7 record? No, I’m not. But we were competetive in every one of those games last year including one to the eventual national champions, SEC east champions, and Sugar Bowl team. And I like the direction of the program now.
Nick Fairley
July 12th, 2011
8:16 am
Where are all of those UGA fans trash talking about how great Georgia schools were and then topped it off by calling UGA the Kudzu League? Kudzu = ivy league I guess? I’ve just got to laugh now that even the Daily Show makes jokes about Atlanta schools and cheating. There’s almost as much cheating there as there is on the field when Ben Jones is playing. And getting schooled by me. Something he couldn’t cheat was my education of his ineptness.
Ah, football season is almost here. Trying to figure out how many weeks until UGA fans say “screw this I’m going huntin’.” I say 1. If Boise St scores more than 60 and UGA fails to score more than 14 then the UGA fans will walk. If BSU is under 60 then there will be next week and “let’s when the SEC East!” Until Spurrier puts a beat down on probably scoring more than 30 to UGA’s 10.
It’s going to be very ugly in those first two weeks. It’s too bad it couldn’t come today!
-Nick Fairley
AltamahaDawg
July 12th, 2011
9:01 am
Beast, another factor is that there is always some leaving every year. I always thought that the assumption that the new coach is cracking down on disipline get’s overblown. But I guess thay have less of a relationship with the kids, so less likely to give additional chances. If UF’s case the one that left for problem, probably weren;t long for the team anyway. Kind of like when Saban dismissed the kid selling cocaine in the parking lot, and they all said he was cleaning house. I kind of think the old guy would have too. (I realize there were others less obvious)
Was more interested to discuss if there were player leaving who were recruited “specifically” for the old philosophy and just thought there was no way they can play under this one. I find that one the most intriguing. I suppose if it was a 5′7″ track star RB, who just never thought he would get as many carries now. Has there been any of that sort of thing. I can’t see any linemen worried about “style”, or receivers.
RedandBlackDAWG
July 12th, 2011
9:15 am
Anybody trashing Atlanta public schools, should take a look at the make up of their team roster. There are quite a few Atlanta and metro products in the SEC. Wasn’t there just a Heisman trophy winner that was originally from Georgia on last years MNC team at Auburn? Thought so, so perhaps one needs to be careful, before inserting ones foot in ones oral cavity.
Chip Towers
July 12th, 2011
10:18 am
7576DAWG: First practice dates haven’t been determined but been told probably be Aug. 2 or 3. Doubt if any will be open to public.
Chip Towers
July 12th, 2011
10:18 am
savannahdawg: 25 years of covering college football. Not just casual observer.
RedandBlackDAWG
July 12th, 2011
12:23 pm
Chip,,What’s your guess as to what penalties the NCAA will pass down on Jones? If we don’t have him for the first couple of games, it appears we might be hurting for those games.
The NCAA is so inconsistent in handing out penalties, it is usually hard to figure out what they will do I know.
Chip Towers
July 12th, 2011
11:41 pm
RedandBlackDAWG: Guessing a game or two suspension at worst for Jarvis Jones. But you never can tell with the NCAA.
RedandBlackDAWG
July 13th, 2011
10:18 am
If they do decide to suspend J. Jones for one or two games, I at least hope they do it soon, so we will not have another A.J. situation, where we wait until the last minute when the God’s of the NCAA decide and make a decision. USC should share and be penalized equally or more so than UGA, since he did it on their watch, but I bet that never happens.
flo-ri-duh
July 13th, 2011
11:26 am
Samuel will stay at LB…..his BEST position.
bobby
July 13th, 2011
11:51 am
i think this will be a great strength for uga this year. the key is going to be washington. he has to be a factor rushing the passer this year.
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Chip Towers
August 31st, 2011
3:22 pm
tampabigDAWG: Boise D-line one of the best in America and one of best UGA will face.