UGA’s Michael Adams expects ‘robust discussion’ among SEC presidents on over-signing

DESTIN, FLA. – Welcome to Day Three of the SEC Spring Meetings at the Hilton Sandestin Beach Resort. This is traditionally known as the quiet day around here, which is in stark contrast to yesterday when Steve Spurrier was proposing paying players, Nick Saban was storming out of meetings and the conference leaders were retooling men’s basketball.

UGA President Michael Adams expects a battle among SEC presidents over the issue of over-signing. (AJC photo)

UGA President Michael Adams expects a battle among SEC presidents over the issue of over-signing. (AJC photo)

As of today, all of the coaches and some of the administrators have gone home. This morning there were golf and tennis outings for attendees. But this afternoon the real work gets done.

The SEC president conduct the first of two meeting at 2:30 p.m. EST to discuss the legislation brought before them by the coaches, faculty athletic reps, senior women’s administrators and athletic directors. Sometime tomorrow morning they will cast actual votes on said legislation and then we might see some changes regarding roster management, divisional play in men’s basketball and other important things such as cowbells being allowed at Mississippi State home games.

UGA President Michael Adams was kind enough to sit down with me this morning to share his thoughts on some of the subjects they’ll address over the next 36 hours.

On the over-signing/roster management discussion:

“I expect there will be a robust discussion in the president’s meeting today and tomorrow about whether or not we can get a handle on over-signing, grayshirting, etc. Our position is pretty well known. I think our coach and AD can speak for ourselves.

“But our first concern on these issues is the student. We don’t think it’s fair to students to leave them hanging and wondering. We feel like a scholarship offer is a scholarship offer. Now what form if any that is going to take in legislation or even if anybody is even going to agree with us remains to be seen. But our coach, our AD and myself are all committed to the fact that we will to the best of our ability. When we offer a person a scholarship, we will have one available. We don’t intend to do purposeful over-signing.

“Having said that, in this league, as we did this year, you sometimes have one or two who for one reason or another might not be fully eligible. If you’re not fully eligible, we feel like you’re better off at a junior college than at a place like Georgia. So sometimes one or two spots do open up and it’s not a perfect system. We’re not trying to cast aspersions on anybody, but our view is we want to be straight-up with the student-athlete.”

On eliminating divisions and seeding 1 through 12 in men’s basketball:

“I talked to Coach Fox about it and he and I and in sync and I intend to vote just like he voted in the basketball coaches group.”

On other business before them:

“I think the rest of it is pretty pro forma. Financially it has been a great year attendance wise and the league all and all is in good shape. I’d just like to see us ratchet up our academic interests a bit.”

On Steve Spurrier’s proposal to pay football players a game bonus:

“I’ve known Coach Spurrier a long time and I have a lot of respect for him, but we’ll just respectfully disagree on this one. I think something like that would start another whole different kind of arms race. I think we have enough arms races as it exists.”

On whether the “cost of attendance” scholarship is a realistic possibility:

“I think that’s yet to be determined. I think one of the things a lot of people don’t understand is how much we can do right now for a student-athlete through the opportunity fund. I had a pretty substantial impact on enhancing that during the time I was on the [NCAA] board. All of the old wives tales about we can’t pay to let an athlete go home to his grandmother’s funeral or that sort of thing is all really passé. I think what we need to do is wait and see what the legislation looks like and then count the costs and try to do what’s fair for the student-athlete.”

36 comments Add your comment

DawginLex

June 2nd, 2011
1:49 pm

Adams takes a lot of heat but in reality, he is a good President. He will not sell his soul to win at all costs and is trying to mandate academic integrity and standards.

An 8-4 or 7-5 record for Richt will tell the real story though.

McGarity will want him gone and Adams will defend him.

Hopefully, Richt wins enough to satisfy both

johnson co. dawg

June 2nd, 2011
2:01 pm

2nd…. but i call first first… so do i get first or 2nd?

MarineDawg

June 2nd, 2011
2:33 pm

Why is Nick Saban so upset? If the goal is to do what’s best for the student-athlete, then he shouldn’t have a problem with that unless he stands to lose something. Not accusing….just wondering!

DawginLex

June 2nd, 2011
2:34 pm

Saban is upset because the 25 rule makes you be honest and forthright with recruits and not treat them like throwaway rags.

AltamahaDawg

June 2nd, 2011
2:37 pm

WELL. I guess I just got called out on that whole funeral wives tale. Well played Dr. Adams.

AltamahaDawg

June 2nd, 2011
2:43 pm

Its becauase he backed himself into a bigger corner about this with his mouth, than he really cared about the issue with his brain. Mostly because he got embarrassed about all the bad publicity he has got over it.

MarineDawg

June 2nd, 2011
2:58 pm

His complaint is that it’s a bad decision and it will hurt the kids’ chances at scholarship opportunities. If this issue is even being brought up by the comissih, then obviously there are some underlying issuses that are going on. Some of these schools sign up to 10 or more players than what they actually have room for. This is in addition to the graduates, the ones declaring for the NFL draft. I’m having a difficult time believing that you can have that many academically ineligbles and medical redshirts on a yearly basis.

UGA Insider

June 2nd, 2011
3:15 pm

Is there any Auburn fans that can give me an update on where you stand with Russel Wilson and his recruitment? If you can get him I may just change my pick for SEC West Champ. As much as I hate to say it I am impressed with what Coach Chiz has been able to do since he was booed the day he first arrived in Auburn.

Nick "The Prick" Satan

June 2nd, 2011
3:15 pm

I’ll tell you why we oversign at ‘Bama. It’s so we can have a competitive advantage over our SEC brethren. If we didn’t do it, the playing field would be level and I would not be worshipped by our fans. After all, college football will never be about what is best for student-athletes. It’s all about ME, ME, ME!!!

Alabamadawg

June 2nd, 2011
3:28 pm

Well said, Nick “the Prick” Satan, well said.

Local Executive

June 2nd, 2011
3:29 pm

Michael Adams is the reason that the University of Georgia will soon be a top 10 public school! It’s gonna happen and it will be under his watch!

There are strategies currently in place, and some that will be implemented that will ensure this!

Georgia Sports Report

June 2nd, 2011
3:33 pm

Local Executive a.k.a. Dr Adams, what have you been doing since you got to Athens then? Nice try

MikeP

June 2nd, 2011
3:37 pm

RE: Russell Wilson. According to the Colorado Rockies Wilson would have to pay back his large signing bonus if he leaves his minor league baseball team before the end of the season on September 5th.

I think if Wilson were available to come on campus for the second summer session, which begins the last week in June, Auburn would be interested. If he can’t make it until September 6th at the earliest that changes it to “not interested”.

Popular dreams to the contrary, Auburn will not be devoid of talent at the QB position this season, Wilson or not.

Local Executive

June 2nd, 2011
3:41 pm

Been drinking downtown… What else!?

Fat Dog

June 2nd, 2011
3:47 pm

Adams is a crook . He should be in prison. He would be if he did not have many of the Board of Regents in his pocket. Regents like the good life too.

AltamahaDawg

June 2nd, 2011
3:54 pm

I knew he was grasping at straw when he rolled out that whole….some poor kid is not going to have an opportunity because of this.

Frank Lane

June 2nd, 2011
3:58 pm

I must admit. I do not trust Adams either. I am not proud that he is the UGA president.

trupert

June 2nd, 2011
4:03 pm

@ MarineDawg, the real reason that Saban is so upset is because he has oversigned between 23 and 26 players over the last four years, with an avarage of six+ oversigned players per class, if they reduce it from 28 to 25, he will lose three oversigned players every year or 50% of the oppertunities to oversign players that he now has.

The advantage to oversigning six players every year is that you get to look at the whole roster and cut or cull the six weakest performing players every year which is a big advantage over a team that doesn’t get to cut players by oversigning.

Alabama fans have been trying to convince all of us that there’s no such thing as oversigning. All you need to do to prove it, is just go to Scout.com and add up the players for the last four years and you will see that Saban has signed 23 more than Ga and 26 more players than Florida. Georgia and Florida are two of the four SEC teams that won’t oversign players.

Some Alabama fans will still try and argue that they have lost this many player’s for this reason and that reason, etc but if you look at Mississippi, and Auburn’s numbers you will again see that these teams have also signed many more players than the teams that won’t oversign. Oversigning has allowed these teams to bring in what amounts to a extra recruiting class over the last four years.

Saban has pulled the wool over the eyes of alot of Alabama fans with the inflated ratings of his oversigned recruiting classes and he dosn’t want to lose any of it.

Stinger2

June 2nd, 2011
4:17 pm

People who bash Dr. Adams or any other University President should not do so without saying why and giving facts to validate their opinions.
In fact, its only an opinion which means nothing to anyone else who cares about their school.

Stinger2

June 2nd, 2011
4:21 pm

Fat Dog and Frank Lane: Do you have proof that Dr. Adams is a crook?
Has he ever been investigated or charged with a crime?
You have a right not to like him, but no right to call him a crook if he is not one.

Joey

June 2nd, 2011
4:30 pm

Thanks for the info, trupert.

Dawgdad (The Original)

June 2nd, 2011
4:32 pm

Stinger2, he may not be technically a “crook”, but his townhouse in Buckhead, his living allowance for his home on Lake Oconee, while a President’s mansion is unused, and his misadventure with the facility in Costa Rica, all indicate a pompous, self important, egotist and serial financial nincompoop who should have been fired long ago. (Worlds longest runon sentence)

i want even get into the mistreatment of Vince Dooley and less important matters. He is a putz.

Fridawg

June 2nd, 2011
4:48 pm

Go Pres. Adams! The Dooley debacle was a mess, but you’ve atoned for your sins. I like the integrity that Richt, McGarity, and Adams possess. My question is… why don’t I ever see these guys around down here at Sandestin?? I’m here at this time EVERY year and I’ve yet to spot anyone from the SEC. They must have some uber-awesome plan to keep them out of the public view.

Stinger2

June 2nd, 2011
4:52 pm

Dawgdad (The Original) I do not doubt any comments you made. My point was that no one is a crook until proven guilty of a crime. I do not have a personal interst in Dr. Adams nor am I defending his actions and his record as President of UGA. I do like UGA and wish them well at all times except the last Saturday in November.

AltamahaDawg

June 2nd, 2011
5:11 pm

I actually had somebody in the family take advantage of the UGA campus in Costa Rico, so I don’t have a problem that that. Plenty schools have off shore campuses. It’s doing very well as far as I know. I might be wrong, but the Buckhead deal was actually an alumni meeting center when the facts came out wasn’t it?

MarineDawg

June 2nd, 2011
5:12 pm

Thanks Trupert! It makes sense why he’s so upset. It does give you a competitive advantage over teams that refuses to do that regardless of what the masses say. I just hope that if the presidents fails to act, then the comissh will step in and put an end to this behavior.

Another moron dawg fan

June 2nd, 2011
5:13 pm

why is we even tawking about robuts.

superDawg

June 2nd, 2011
5:20 pm

I read today where three tech students broke into a norcross elementary school to steal their triple option play book before it got into the wrong hands.

It Ain't Rocket Science

June 2nd, 2011
5:40 pm

All of this talk about over signing, paying the players a stipend and special benefits, forgets one thing. What is in the best interest of the kid that gets this scholarship, and will he have a chance to make it beyond football. Every article seems to zero in on the really good athlete but what about those that are team players but will never make it in the NFL. What has he got to show for 4 years at the university. I would like to see a rule, that says, if the kid doesn’t finish his degree in the 4 years he is alloted and doesn’t get in the NFL or some pro. sports league, that he be allowed to come back on a scholarship, and complete his degree. I realize that some would not take the opportunity because their first years in college had been spent taking courses that will offer nothing to their future but I would bet some of them, would jump at the chance to get a worthwhile degree. We owe them at least that much, considering they entertain us each week in the fall, and help the university make a gross amount of money.

South Ga. Possum

June 2nd, 2011
6:02 pm

Spurrier’s got it right. Why should the coaches, ad’s, and presidents make all the big bucks? Share the wealth with the players that make it all happen and sell game day tickets.

GT Alum

June 2nd, 2011
6:21 pm

Hmm, so apparently Jacksonville St is dedicated to giving troubled Div I transfers a 2nd chance.

Hart Co.

June 2nd, 2011
6:24 pm

Stinger2 I’d say there are alot of crooks out there who have not been convicted of anything. Not saying Adams is or is not.

51WTGW50

June 2nd, 2011
7:06 pm

somebody pulled a fast one over on Ealey. He thought he was transfering to USC to be a GameCo.k or Alabama. He missed the part that he was going to school in Alabame to Jacksonville State to be a Gamec..k.
I bet he will be in Pre-Med there too.

It Ain't Rocket Science

June 3rd, 2011
8:04 am

South Ga. Possum,

Share the wealth. Does the scholarship, that probably is worth about 120,000 for 4 years, mean that the wealth is not being shared? Think there might be just a few kids out there, that would give their right foot for a chance to get a scholarship like that. If you start giving the stipend every month to football players, do you just limit it to them? How about the other sports? How about the non-athlete that needs money also. People that say, non-athletes do not contribute in any way to a schools notoriety, are wrong. If they become someone of note in a specific endeavor, the school gets recognition in the field they excel in. Even athletics that do not produce money, have players that go on to the pros. where their schools are mentioned prominently, when talking about them. Jack Nicholas comes to mind for one.
If an equitable and fair way can be found to give all scholarship students stipends then I would be all for it. I doubt though, that the abuses that would take place in the athletic areas would be able to be controlled.

NoGaGator

June 3rd, 2011
8:20 am

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