Q&A: Logan Gray wanted ‘more opportunities’ to play QB at UGA
A Q&A WITH LOGAN GRAY
Gray
In an exclusive interview with the AJC on Tuesday, Logan Gray confirmed that he has settled on Colorado as his next destination. The former Georgia quarterback plans to transfer there via the NCAA’s postgraduate transfer rule which allows qualifying student-athletes to be immediately eligible at another school as long as they have received an undergraduate degree from the original school. However, the move is not yet finalized. Gray, who is due to earn a speech communications degree from UGA in May, has yet to be accepted into the Colorado’s grad school.
In the meantime, I wanted to talk Gray about that decision and ask him about his experiences at UGA. The former prep All-American and consensus top 10 quarterback prospect will leave without ever starting a game for the Bulldogs and switched to wide receiver last season after failing to beat out freshman Aaron Murray for the job. As you’ll learn in the following exchange, Gray felt like he wasn’t given a realistic shot to win the quarterback job after Matthew Stafford left in 2009. But he admits that Murray won the job fair and square and insists that he’ll leave Athens late next month without any hard feelings toward Georgia or its coaching staff.
Following is our exchange:
Q: So spring practice is underway. What are you up to now that you’re not playing football?
A: I’m just finishing up school so I can graduate come May with a degree in speech communications.
Q: The news has been circulating that you’ve settled on Colorado as a transfer destination. I know your younger brother Quinn attends there. Was that the main reason you chose the Buffaloes?
A: Yeah, that’s kind of how it started. It kind of went from there after that. It’s definitely ironic that we just went out there and played them.
Q: What has the transfer process been like?
A: At first I didn’t really know exactly how the whole process worked. So I just went through my high school coach (A.J. Ofodile), who helped me get recruited in the first place. I asked him to call a few schools and find out who might actually be interested. I was kind of looking to get back closer to home mainly. Once I found that out I just kind of went from there.
Q: What other schools showed interest?
A: I had a wide range of schools that I talked to. Probably my number two school would be Southern Illinois, which is a I-AA school only a few hours from where I live (in Columbia, Mo.). I talked to schools all the way from Louisiana-Monroe to Northern Iowa to Valdosta State. So I looked at D-1, I-AA all the way down to Division II.
Q: When did you make up your mind that it would be Colorado?
A: Actually I just had an official visit last weekend. I got to go visit and watch their spring game, meet all their coaches, pretty much check everything out. It went very well. That was pretty much the clincher there. They have a brand new staff out there, they just brought in a receivers coach from the University of Texas (Bobby Kennedy) and I really see them as a program on the rise.
Q: Any thoughts about trying to resurrect your quarterback career somewhere?
A: That was definitely something I thought about and it would have been cool to do. But the thing about it is, with the limited time I have, it would have been tough to pick up an entire system as a quarterback. That’s what several schools were saying. There were a couple that talked about me coming as a quarterback, but the majority were thinking wide receiver would be an easier transition.
Q: Were there any schools that recruited you specifically as a quarterback?
A: Valdosta State told me they needed a quarterback that could play right away. Then there were a few schools, like Louisiana-Monroe, that were talking to me about playing quarterback and receiver. A lot of teams were talking about putting me in a kind of Wildcat package.
Q: So what graduate degree will you be pursuing at Colorado?
A: Honestly, I still have to get accepted into their grad school. So, I mean, nothing is official yet. . . . I don’t know that I can tell you just yet. I’m just trying to make sure everything is official before I say anything. It’s a little different than coming out of high school.
Q: When is everything supposed to be finalized?
A: Hopefully I’ll find out in the next two weeks. Hopefully it won’t take too long, but I also have to get a waiver by the NCAA that clears me to be able to do that and I don’t know how long that process takes. I’m not positive how all that works. I feel pretty strong about it. I think it will work out just fine. Nothing is 100 percent just yet but we just need to take care of the rest. Hopefully I’ll be there for summer workouts.
Q: OK, how would you describe your experience at Georgia?
A: Honestly, I really don’t have any regrets deciding to come to Georgia out of high school. The relationships I’ve built with my teammates and the friends I’ve created, they will be life long. It’s definitely been a positive experience.
Q: What about on the football field?
A: As far as football goes, I do wish I had been given a few more opportunities, especially when I was playing quarterback. I don’t have any regrets. It didn’t work out. That’s just the way it goes sometimes. I’m still excited I’m able to get my degree from the University of Georgia and have an opportunity to go to another school like Colorado. Hopefully I can fulfill some of my dreams of making plays and being a key contributor at the college football level.
Q: You said you wished you had more shots at quarterback at UGA. When did you feel like was your best shot at Georgia, when Joe Cox ended up starting in 2009 or last year when Murray got the nod?
A: I’d probably say the year Joe Cox started. It’s tough talking about all this because Joe is one of my best friends and, Aaron Murray, I have great respect for him. But as far as how things played out, I just kind of wish it would have been handled in a different manner. After Matthew [Stafford] left, they immediately named Joe the starter before spring practice even started. I was hoping to get on the field and compete for that job and show what I could do. During the season the opportunities I got were really only at the end of the Florida game and at the end of the Tennessee game, which didn’t pan out for the best. After Joe graduated, going into last year, it was a wide-open competition, which was different than the year before. Aaron ended up winning the job and obviously had a great year last year and that’s just the way things went. Like I said, no hard feelings. That’s just the way it goes sometimes.
Q: Knowing what you do now, what advice might you give recruits?
A: I think if I gave advice it would be to make the most of your college experience. Not every single person is going to come to college and have an awesome career and end up in the NFL. It just doesn’t work that way. But I still feel you should work as hard as you can in the field and in the classroom. You just have to make the most of all the opportunities your given. Coach Richt gave me a scholarship and I wanted to honor the University by getting my degree here. I’m most proud of that.
Q: Did you consider staying at Georgia and giving it another go as a full-time wide receiver?
A: Obviousy I thought long and hard about that. In the end I just kind of wanted a fresh start. I was hoping to be able to play some place a little closer to home. Colorado is still a little bit away from where I live, but with my brother going to school there it will allow my parents to see both of us quite a bit, which will be nice. And I just thought that it was time for a change. I don’t know exactly which way the program is heading and I kind of just wanted to jump on board somewhere that I could just have a fresh start and prove that I’m a guy that can make plays and really help a team win.”
Q: What memories will you leave with from UGA?
A: I definitely made some of my best friends ever and I will miss them. Drew Butler, Clint Boling, Tanner Strickland and [walkon] Eric Elliott, those are some of my best friends. And there are many other guys I have very close relationships with. And it’s not like I’m leaving here without a great experience. My freshman year I was part of a Sugar Bowl championship team. On or off the field I’ve had memories that I’ll cherish for years.
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JDawg
April 12th, 2011
6:58 pm
Good luck Logan. You were not quite good enough to be a D-1 QB, but you were certainly a solid college football player. I hope you have a great year out at CU. What an awesome place to be for the next couple of years at your age. Life’s ahead of you, make the most of it.
Worm
April 12th, 2011
7:03 pm
Best of luck Logan..I believe if he was our best option at QB, he would have received PT..See Brian barnes,Joey Hester,Preston Jones, James Ray,Dickie Clark,Jeff Pyburn etc.etc.
soldierman
April 12th, 2011
7:07 pm
dang
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
7:09 pm
He didn’t throw anybody under the bus. He did basically say Richt has been a idiot for having Seniors Play First over anybody until proven different. It sounds to me like if HUTSON MASON doesn’t get Any Significant Playing time in the first 2 games he should consider transferring. It is Murray’s team with LeMay the next QB.
Leave now Hutson before Richt loses his job and you are screwed even more. Just My Opinion.
Jim
April 12th, 2011
7:13 pm
A prime example of another wasted tallent at UGA. Sometimes I think the coaches at UGA are like a spoiled kid who has so many toys they throw away the goods ones as soon as a new one comes in. Best of luck Logan I wish you had gotten a better shot to prove yourself. I’ll be watching CU this year knowing if your fielding punts the whole world isn’t expecting you to fair catch the ball.
JDawg1785
April 12th, 2011
7:35 pm
I’ll definitely be cheering for him next season. Thank you, Logan! Best of luck in all you do.
Nick
April 12th, 2011
7:50 pm
He is right, joe cox was terrible, classy kid. Good luck.
Joe the Preacher Man
April 12th, 2011
7:53 pm
That whole Joe Cox thing, I think I just threw up in my mouth. Joe Cox was NOT A DIV 1 QB. He was horrible, Logan Gray has a point, why did he name him the starter right after Stafford left. What a crock of crap, I love CMR but that was a horrible decesion.
Dawg89
April 12th, 2011
8:01 pm
I think we all wish he had gotten a real chance to play QB. It may never be known the real reason why Richt rode Cox to the bitter end. It certainly didn’t make any sense.
Good luck Logan. I hope you have a great season with the Buffs. I wish all players would represent UGA the way you do.
dawgerbrown
April 12th, 2011
8:11 pm
The best of luck to you Logan. You are a classy young man and a great “team player”. Hope you have a great season at Colorado, I’m sure you’ll be successful in the years to come.
JT
April 12th, 2011
8:13 pm
I would agree that Cox shouldn’t have simply been named starter before Spring of 2009, but let’s not just assume that Gray could’ve beaten him out. The coaches see these guys day in and day out and Logan always looked shaky at best during the few opportunities he had in real games. They should have switched him to WR sooner than they did. But I will say that I’m always puzzled why Richt/Bobo don’t do a better job developing backup QB’s by giving them more field time.
holy cow
April 12th, 2011
8:14 pm
” I don’t know exactly which way the program is heading and I kind of just wanted to jump on board somewhere that I could just have a fresh start and prove that I’m a guy that can make plays and really help a team win.”
I undertand this perfectly. You mean Richt isnt delivering the “change we can believe in”???? shocking
UGASlobberknocker
April 12th, 2011
8:19 pm
Gray wasnt an SEC caliber QB thus explaining why he didnt play. In fact, I thought he was a disappointment at every position..including returning kicks since he fair caught everything. I wish him the best of luck in the future in all of his endeavors, but the Dawgs football team will not be impacted one iota with his departure.
If they toss Gray his diploma in Colorado..
April 12th, 2011
8:20 pm
He will call for a fair catch.
tc
April 12th, 2011
8:25 pm
good luck to Logan. I would also agree that he never had much of a chance. It is also interesting that he does not no which way the program is going. I would say that that is a nice way to say that he does not have confidence in CMR and thinks that CMR is not capable of turning it around. I have to agree with him. CMR is a crappy HC. Poor at judging talent and developing talent. Both qualities are required to succeed!
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
8:33 pm
tc
Logan is talking about the CU Buffs. CU has a new coaching staff.
ugab
April 12th, 2011
8:48 pm
Thanks for everything Logan. Thanks for having sure hands on punt returns. You was the only one that I trusted to catch a punt securely. Your are a great athelete and a fine young man. Uga will miss you.
Dr. Phil
April 12th, 2011
8:49 pm
Richt is particularly bad about leaving the starting QB and other players in a breather game to pad statistics. Of course, breathers have jumped up and bit Richt in the buttocks recently.
Sloan
April 12th, 2011
9:00 pm
Classy guy and a team player!
Doug
April 12th, 2011
9:01 pm
tHEY ONLY THREW 9 PASSES TO gRAY.
Also, he earned a shot to start some games at QB.
Richt has a tendancy to make up his mind early about players, and never change.
Joe Cox, Murray, etc.
Regardless of how bad they do, or how many games they lose.
Doug
April 12th, 2011
9:02 pm
The guy was the ultimate team player. Fair catching punts. Lot of humility there.
UGA should have used him in a wildcat, since they won’t let Murray run.
Doug
April 12th, 2011
9:04 pm
One of my favs on the team. Fast guy. Humble. Team player. Wish him the best. Hope he has a monster year at Colorado.
Vance Duly
April 12th, 2011
9:06 pm
We will never know if Logan could have been a good UGA quarterback. But, in his defense, he seldom had an opportunity, and I remember his chance against Florida came after we were getting our butts handed to us (again) by the Gators, and he was put in backed up to our own 7 yard line. I’ve been amazed that Coach Richt (as much as I like him as our coach) gives the backup quarterback almost NO meaningful playing time, only occasional mop-up duty. Joe Cox was thrown into a similar situation after Stafford left for the NFL – he’d had almost no playing time since his 2 appearances years earlier against Colorado and Ole Miss. It’s bad coaching strategy to leave your backup QB in the “inexperienced and untested” category……..
As a punt returner, it’s fair to point out that he was mostly used as the “possession” punt returner (fair catch, no fumble) when backed up deep on our end of the field.
dawgbone
April 12th, 2011
9:09 pm
We are becoming the breather for the better teams I’m afraid.
BG
April 12th, 2011
9:11 pm
Good luck Logan. You will always be a DGD!!
Mike
April 12th, 2011
9:13 pm
I played on a number of teams growing up – some I did very well, some not as well, but I never quit my team. Logan, you were not the starting quarterback for one god reason – you weren’t good enough. So you help your team any way you can, but you don’t leave your team mates.
What does this mean in your life? Are you going to quit your marriage if it isn’t peaches and cream 100% of the time? Are you going to quit your jobs because you’re not mad a senior vice president within two years? Your’re quiting your team and your friends, and that’s not a good way to start your life, son.
tide roll
April 12th, 2011
9:14 pm
Bobo went after this guy instead of Cameron Newton.
Buster
April 12th, 2011
9:15 pm
Class act, period!
Beast from the East
April 12th, 2011
9:21 pm
I don’t read this as if he’s questioning the direction of UGA’s program. I take it as he’s not sure of the direction of Colorado’s program but he was willing to go there to get a fresh start. Not shots taken at UGA.
dawgster
April 12th, 2011
9:23 pm
@tc…I believe that Logan is talking about which way the Colorado program is headed as they have a new coaching staff…don’t try to turn this into something it isn’t…Logan is a great kid and will always be a dawg…things didn’t work out for him as he expected, but he kept working and made some contributions…He also got his degreee and thats something no one can take away from him…I suspect Logan will do just fine…I think realistically everyone including himself probably knew that the NFL would not be where he would land…but I agree that he probably should have gotten more opportunities, but as someone else said the coaches see these players all the time so I don’t know what he did or did not show in practice..I do recall that one particular player, won’t call any names though, said that Joe Cox was more accurate…for whatever that is worth…go dawgs and best of luck to you Logan….
mag
April 12th, 2011
9:25 pm
Tide roll – at least Logan never cheated on tests or bought a stolen lap top only to throw it out a window.
Wallace
April 12th, 2011
9:34 pm
I’ll never forget Richt’s comments after G-Day when he tried to explain why he was going with Murray over Gray, when Gray had a better G-Day.
Watch Murray’s highlight video. That was Richt’s thinking.
It never occured to Richt, that Plant won a State Championship the year before & after Murray QB’d. Murray didn’t have much to do with Plant winning the Championship, his back up started 7 games that year.
Now we can watch the whole season’s videos, only highlights were beating teams with losing records.
Can’t blame Logan for being jilted a little.
VA DAWG
April 12th, 2011
9:34 pm
Best of luck Logan. You’re a class act and a DGD! GO DAWGS!
dawgster
April 12th, 2011
9:35 pm
@mag…don’t forget Logan’s dad didn’t ask for money to play for his son either…enough said for “tide rolls’ comment…
Down South Dawg
April 12th, 2011
9:35 pm
Logan was recruited along with Aaron White. Stafford showed up and stole the show, Joe Cox and Logan displayed comparable talent in their early days. Cox was from Charlotte N.C. which has proven to be a very rich recruiting venue for UGA. After Coe’s physical demise he still held TRUE-BLUE to Richt and the Dawgs, organizing the off season programs and the like. Logan certainly could compete with Joe on the field but the staff really didn’t want to mess up their good-thing-going in Charlotte, N.C. — I.E. — Lemay & others. It just never went Logans way, and that’s a crying shame. Logan is a classy guy.
He was raised right and was a great H.S. quarterback. He probably could have been a hell of a good UGA quarterback if circumstances had been different!
dawgster
April 12th, 2011
9:36 pm
@Wallace…I’m sorry but your comments are absurd…think about what you said, please….
Smiling Jack
April 12th, 2011
9:37 pm
Mike, I don’t think anyone but you thinks of Logan as a quitter How are you so perceptive about another man’s life? Best wishes, Logan, for all the successes in your future.
78 Dawg
April 12th, 2011
9:38 pm
Logan was a higher rated dual threat than Nesbitt, how can his career end like this? Richt is like Tom Landry (he made Staubach sit for years), because he doesn’t want someone scrambling making plays, you gotta run the play that’s called and throw it down field. Good thing Tarkenton is still around, he’d be a db.
bucket
April 12th, 2011
9:40 pm
Exactly what is the point of this exercise of obsession with Logan Gray? Are we still trying to throw egg in CMR’s face? No credible UGA fan wants to say anything negative about Logan, but this drumbeat is getting old. Logan was a nice young man and DGD, but he chose not to be on the team any longer in Athens. Can we have some articles about the guys who will be playing Saturday?
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
9:42 pm
Best of luck, Logan. Thanks for all your dedication.
Can’t be TOO bitter since he’s not transferring to play QB somewhere.
Chip: Gotta check this out on Aaron Murray….very lucky to have this kid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnyQreLkNkI&sns=fb
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
9:43 pm
bucket: Click on the above link for some positive stuff.
dawgster
April 12th, 2011
9:45 pm
@bucket….good job bucket..I agree totally…go dawgs
bucket
April 12th, 2011
9:47 pm
@ Wallace – Murray broke his dang leg during that year and he came back at the end of the year and QB’d the team to the freaking championship!!! Aaron Murray was not the problem last year. Better teams beat UGA last year because they had better TEAMS!!! With a little more defense Murray’s record as a starter would have been much better. Going into the year we all said Murray needed a running game and UGA got squat out of the running game. Again. Murray’s 3 INT’s against UF was not helpful, but the offense scored over 30 in that game even with those turnovers. You gotta play more D than that!
bucket
April 12th, 2011
9:48 pm
Will do Tommy P and thanks dawgster!
Wallace
April 12th, 2011
9:53 pm
No, Murray didn’t lead his team to the Championship, his back up did. But Murray got to QB the big game. We don’t have to theorize about Murray anymore, 6-7 as a starter, 0-6 against winning teams, lost to Gray last G-Day, losing to Mason this Spring.
tc
April 12th, 2011
9:55 pm
the reason CMR does not play any 2nd string QBs is because he is never in control of a football game.
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
9:56 pm
Wallace: You’re showing a lot of stupidity right now. Pretty sure it’s unanimous that Aaron Murray might be the SEC’s best returning QB.
Name another Georgia QB that led his team to more consecutive 30+ point games than Murray?
Buzz 2010
April 12th, 2011
9:58 pm
Why didn’t he start for Joe Cox?? No, I wish Cox was still dealing….
Skole
April 12th, 2011
10:00 pm
5-3
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
10:01 pm
TommyP
Look at the majority of the teams he scored 30 against. Everybody in the SEC was sure BAMA was going to have a cake walk to a 2nd straight SEC title too. Murray has to do it on the field. The only reason Murry is getting the nod next year is because most team are getting New QBs or coaches plus Garcia is a head case. I think Dooley and Tennessee have a great young QB that came on the last half of the season.
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
10:05 pm
51WTGW50: “I think Dooley and Tennessee have a great young QB that came on the last half of the season.”
So you want to negate Murray’s #s because of a supposed easy slate yet Bray amassed his #s during the easiest stretch of their schedule. Dooley even planned for his freshman QB to take over when they reached the cupcake part of their schedule.
Can’t have it both ways.
Wallace
April 12th, 2011
10:05 pm
If Murray’s so good at QB, why did he get beat last G-Day by both Gray & Mettenberger? Why is he getting outhrown 5 td’s to 3 td’s by Mason, again this Spring. He’s not even the best on his own team, must less the SEC.
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
10:09 pm
You’re officially a moron, Wallace. You’re counting G-Day stats? Really?
LOL
aarh
April 12th, 2011
10:17 pm
Wallace- Even L. Gray said that Murray beat him out. His complaint was that he wasn’t given more of an oppotrunity when Cox was there. Yeah he did break his leg, but he vame back & payed hirt, & they won the state champoinship w/ him at QB. The guy had over 3,000 yds. passing as a FR. The QB may be teh most important position, but they can’t do it all when the rest of the team is lacking. Most QBS struggle early & get better as they get more experience. He actually performed well, but the team didn’t, & he should only get better. I’m impressed w/ him when you consider how young he is & all.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
10:19 pm
TommyP I see you got my point. Tennessee & Bray looked great against NOBODYS just like Murray most of the season. If H Mason doesn’t get a lot of playing time this year fast he needs to start the transfer process fast. Get away for career killers Bobo and Richt.
aarh
April 12th, 2011
10:22 pm
Wallace- Oh, & one more thing…I remember hearing that Murray was outplayed in the G-Day Game by Mettenburger. I don’t remember hearing much about Gray that yr. It was also reported that Murray outperformed Met in the other scrimmages that everyone didn’t see as much. I went to the G-Day Game 2 yrs. ago, & Gray looked pretty good to me then. Even it another team beat Murray’s though, then it doesn’t mean that Gray outperformed him, & I’m not so sure you’re right on that anyway.
dawgster
April 12th, 2011
10:22 pm
@Wallace..again you so how little knowledge you have of this game called “football”…please quit you dig your hole deeper…Spring football statistics….Thats too funny…
dawgster
April 12th, 2011
10:24 pm
should read “again you show how little”…sorry misspell, but hey its spring ball….
collage graduate
April 12th, 2011
10:24 pm
good thang you got dat uga degree, 22k a yr is sweet money….
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
10:26 pm
51: You must be Mason’s brother or friend. To think he’s remotely close to Murray shows you don’t have a clue.
What do you NOT like about Aaron Murray? Mobility? VERY mobile. Passer? Check the stats. Heady signalcaller? He put together the season he had…….as a freshman.
Anyone thinking Murray isn’t that good, well, isn’t very bright.
JustAUGAFan
April 12th, 2011
10:28 pm
Logan seemed to give his all for Georgia and I wish him well. On the other hand, I am also wondering why this is getting so much ink. I do not care about a backup transferring. Can’t we all say that we believe we would have gotten further if given the chance?
The thing that makes me laugh is that Logan says he would have liked to compete against Joe. He said that Aaron beat him fair and square; yet, people are on here saying he is better than Aaron. You have zero basis to make that claim. Honestly, the only action we have seen of Logan as a QB was not very good. What basis do you have to claim he was better than anyone else? You claim a G-Day game? You must be really disappointed then that Carlton Thomas won’t be getting 25 carries a game this year.
Echoing some other folks on here, how about some articles about Georgia’s players and not Colorado’s. What’s next, an insiders look at Washington State’s backup wide receivers? I bet that’s good for business.
JustAUGAFan
April 12th, 2011
10:34 pm
collage (lol, how telling) graduate, i will take your word that $22k is sweet money. As a UGA grad, I will settle for that over four times over. It IS good he got that UGA degree; so he won’t have to earn as little as you do.
I’m interested to know where you got your degree to earn that kind of money?
FYI – I ordered no pickles on that burger at lunch and you didn’t get that right either.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
10:37 pm
TommyP I hear all the screaming about players leaving the state. Now Mason has all the Ga passing records and stayed in state and will not get a REAL chance to show his stuff ON the FIELD. Hell if that is Bobo and Richt’s showing loyalty then to hell with them.
Bad Dawg
April 12th, 2011
10:38 pm
Gray got screwed by Richt and Bobo. Cox got screwed by Richt and Bobo. I could write a tome on why these guys are examples of the talent shredding process that goes on . Not just at QB, but other talented guys at other positions got wasted, too.
Just as an example: There were many times that Stafford was having a bad, bad game. Why did they not just sit Stafford out for a series of downs and give Cox some experience as part of his right of passage? Instead, Cox’s game experience before his senior year (and in other games Gray after Cox took over) was in desperation situations. Both of them were thrown in under pressure to produce miracles — often the situation was a result of a whole game of Bobo incompetent play-calling.
Cox and Gray were incredible talents and both got wasted at Georgia (along with some other good guys).
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
10:40 pm
JustAUGA
If you are making All that MONEY you should be eating Stake not a McDonald’s hamburger with fries and a coke
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
10:40 pm
Steak damn did proofread.
Former UGA walk-on
April 12th, 2011
10:41 pm
Congratulations Logan on receiving your upcoming degree at the University of Georgia. Thank you for all of your contributions to the football team.
What many people fail to realize is the word student comes first in “student athlete.”
All across the country there are 2,3,4 and 5 star athletes that will never get to play at the Division 1 level. Everyone cannot play and for certain cannot start. It takes everyone on the team to fill a role. Whether playing scout team or on the kickoff team, they all contribute.
Who can name the Parade All American tailback that was 3rd or 4th string behind Herschel Walker?
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
10:42 pm
51: There are so many players in the state of Georgia that the Dawgs can’t take them all.
Georgia had a GREAT recruiting year in-state last year. All the screaming comes from people who don’t have the ability to think.
The state of Georgia doesn’t produce many QBs ’cause most of the HS teams run the ball all the time. This is slowly changing but other states develop much, much better QBs.
Do me a favor and tell me how many SEC teams offered Hutson Mason.
Oh yeah….and how many freshman QBs had better seasons than Murray?
PeePants the hobo clown
April 12th, 2011
10:44 pm
I was hoping for a big career at UGA for Logan,but he said it himself.Not everyone is going to have a great college career and go to the NFL.
I admit I was surprised and cox being named starter,but i thought maybe he had beaten out Logan-it appears there wasn’t much of a battle to begin with. Hey coaches can’t make every decision correctly, and it bothers me that Richt gets so much grief on this site. He is a VERY classy guy who DOES care about treating kids right.There’s so much to learn in college and little of it has to do with football. logans classy responses are a testement to that. Good luck Mr Gray hope you kick ass out there.
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
10:44 pm
Cox and Gray were incredible talents??????? Cocaine is a terrible habit, bro.
VSU_Dawg
April 12th, 2011
10:44 pm
i wish he would have come to Valdosta State…we need a qb bad…BBBBBAAAAAAAAAAADDDDD!!!! best of luck to him though, i would have rather seen him play than joe cox…
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
10:45 pm
I am sure there are a few Freshman QBs that did better than 6-7 and 0-7 against teams with winning records. Stats are great, but W’s keep you employed. Let Richt and Bobo hitch their wagon to Murry and I guess we will see how that works.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
10:49 pm
I will bet every UGAs fans Double wide trailer that Richt and Bobo will not have a Heisman Trophy winning QB.
JustAUGAFan
April 12th, 2011
10:51 pm
51, did I say it was at McDonalds or did you assume that? Did I say fries and coke?
Oh yeah, maybe they pay me that money because I make good enough decisions not to buy steak for lunch and save them money.
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
10:51 pm
So Murray plays defense, huh? You blame all those losses on Aaron Murray, a freshman QB that played behind a bad offensive line and a very underachieving RB corps?
Name 1 QB that had better numbers as a freshman? I’m still waiting. Peyton Manning? Not even close. Stafford, Tebow, Cam Newton, McElroy…..anyone?
You are really reaching with your point of view.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
10:53 pm
STATS that don’t create Ws don’t keep a coach off the hot seat.
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
10:55 pm
Ahhhhh….now the truth surfaces. You hate Georgia. “Doublewides”??? LOL
Past your bedtime, Sparky.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
10:57 pm
TommyP
Please tell me you don’t know that plenty of Dawg fans live in Trailers and Prefab homes.
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
10:57 pm
51: So which team is your team out of curiousity?
JustAUGAFan
April 12th, 2011
10:58 pm
51, if you are not a Georgia fan and you think so little of Murray, why are you not arguing for Georgia to keep him at QB? Would that not help your team? If you are a Georgia fan, why do speak so poorly of your fellow fans?
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
10:59 pm
51: Sorry, man. You appear to be the expert on trailers. I’m assuming your neighbors in your trailerpark all support Georgia??????
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
11:02 pm
Any team that doesn’t have fans that woof and act the butts around children by being total drunks and cussing afound women and children. So I guess every team but UGA.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
11:04 pm
Wrong TommyP. ALL Brick home and hardwood (real hardwood) floors. I own a farm no neighbors too close.
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
11:04 pm
51: Where did you go to college? Who is your team? You’re bashing UGA constantly….tell us your team.
TommyP
April 12th, 2011
11:08 pm
Gotta run….you provided absolutely “nada” in your defense of bashing Murray. Tired of waiting.
JustAUGAFan
April 12th, 2011
11:10 pm
You can read these comments and see that Georgia has its fair share of idiots; but if you substitute “woof” for “say gator-bait” or “say tiger-bait” or whatever anyone else yells, you have every fan base. At least every fan base in the SEC. Thinking about his comment made me realize I have seen that apply to every fan base in the SEC, a couple in the ACC (Tech and FSU) and one in the PAC-10 (ASU). Man, I’m getting old.
I’ve also seen the best out of all of these fan bases because I rub shoulders with them on a daily basis at work, church, rec league, etc.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
11:13 pm
TommyP it doesn’t matter what college I graduated from. It is in Georgia. My tax money has to support state schools so I can have an opinion about state schools.
Druid City
April 12th, 2011
11:17 pm
Logan just wanted to play on a better team. Can’t blame him for that.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
11:20 pm
I have been to games of many teams and conferences. UGA fans take pride in being butts. I hear UGA fans say the same thing about all SEC teams, but the truth is I don’t get that when I go to visit the same SEC schools. UGA gets the worst abuse from other SEC team fans because UGA gives it out so much. Every school has its classy and classless fans. It just seems UGA has more vocal classless fans than most schools.
A lot of college football coaches in the room
April 12th, 2011
11:26 pm
51WTGW50, yoru right Richt will never have a Heisman winning quarterback. I mean he’s only coached 2 maybe more. Aren’t you the same guy who jumped on another poster for saying UGA has a better conference baseball record than the SEC West and then post records that are not even this year’s?
A lot of college football coaches in the room
April 12th, 2011
11:29 pm
Ladies and Gents, 51WTGW50 will not defend his comments. He will be the first person to bash another poster about things and then post wrong information. Class A moron!!
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
11:31 pm
Richt had a NBA point guard and a 26yr old baseball playing man win the Heisman. Sorry I am not impressed by that.
A lot of college football coaches in the room
April 12th, 2011
11:32 pm
I think it is amazaing that there are so many un-employed college football coaches on the AJC blog tonight.
A lot of college football coaches in the room
April 12th, 2011
11:33 pm
Well guess what 51WTGW50, the Heisman Trophy is not around to impress you!!
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
11:33 pm
I got the baseball #s off an ESPN page. Last years # apparently.
I said Richt and Bobo will never have a Heisman Trophy QB at UGA. Learn to read if you are going to run your mouth sir.
JustAUGAFan
April 12th, 2011
11:34 pm
Things tend to seem to us based on beliefs we hold coming into the analysis. Fact is, you have no way of quantifying your assertion. Perhaps you just do not like UGA. The reason could be valid or invalid, but it is your reason. Based on your dislike, you should be supporting Murray, Richt, Bobo and company if you truly believe they are no good.
I must go now and can say that I do not hate anyone or any fan base. I can say that having lived deep in one our enemy territories for awhile and no more. I only hope that you, 51, can say that one day.
A lot of college football coaches in the room
April 12th, 2011
11:37 pm
Oh I will run my mouth just like you will and I will back my stuff up. Here is your post.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
10:49 pm
I will bet every UGAs fans Double wide trailer that Richt and Bobo will not have a Heisman Trophy winning QB.
Your post does not say they will not have one at UGA. It says they will not have one, well last time I checked Richt has two. I guess I was suppose to assume that is what you meant.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
11:37 pm
@”A lot of” why do you change your name every time you post? Are you happy now that I responded to you finally? I guess you can die happy now or whatever. What is UGA Baseball teams record then? I don’t really follow college baseball that much.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
11:42 pm
Richt and Bobo Coach at UGA you F..inf Moron yes or no?
JustAUGAFan
April 12th, 2011
11:43 pm
I know I said I was leaving, but then I read where 51 posted the second quote below which didn’t sound right to me; so I found the original quote, which is the first quote below. Please judge for yourself readers if what he says in the second quote is true of the first. Now I agree that the use of “and” implies that Richt and Bobo will not have one together, but he does not say anything about it being at UGA. The hate is strong with this one. Now I’m going to bed.
“I will bet every UGAs fans Double wide trailer that Richt and Bobo will not have a Heisman Trophy winning QB.”
“I said Richt and Bobo will never have a Heisman Trophy QB at UGA.”
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
11:44 pm
UGAs fans Double wide trailer
That doesn’t tell you I am talking about Richt and Bobo at UGA? Do you think when Richt gets canned by the dawgs he will ever give Bobo a job again ?
Frank A
April 13th, 2011
12:10 am
I had the opportunity to go to a bowl practice with some high school coaches and got to sit in on the wide reciever position meeting. Logan was the most respecful player in the room; he answered every question with a “Yes Sir” or “No Sir” and basically said, “I need to work harder on that”. If every player at UGA had his attitude and character, we would be in great shape for the future. I wish him all the best.
Frank A
April 13th, 2011
12:35 am
Enter your comments here
51WTGW50
April 13th, 2011
1:06 am
@A lot of college
I see UGA lost to Tech and UGA’s record is 18-16. You say they are better than any team in the west then the SEC west must suck bad. LSU, Bama, and MSU are usually really good baseball teams are they not?
A lot of college football coaches in the room
April 12th, 2011
11:37 pm
Oh I will run my mouth just like you will and I will back my stuff up. Here is your post.
51WTGW50
April 12th, 2011
10:49 pm
Your post does not say they will not have one at UGA. It says they will not have one, well last time I checked Richt has two. I guess I was suppose to assume that is what you meant.
This article and conversation is about a QB that never got a fair shot at UGA and how Richt and Bobo judge talent at UGA. Why you think I would be talking about Richt at FSU? Hell UGA morons add Richts record at FSU to some conversations and that makes no since. If I wanted to talk FSU Heisman winners I would have said Bowden and Richt not Richt and Bobo. Why would I bet a UGA fans trailer if I want to talk about Richt and any other team. You really can’t be that dumb can you?
Day Bow Bow
April 13th, 2011
1:57 am
If I remember correctly, Gray came as a package deal with Aron White. I’m proud of him for sticking it out at UGA and wish him well at CU although I think neither him nor White lived up to expectations, maybe White will prove me wrong this year…
Jason
April 13th, 2011
2:20 am
Joe Cox was the starter in 2009 and was clear after the third game that he just wasn’t going to cut it as the starter, yet CMR kept him in meanwhile ignoring the future of the ball team…Gray should have been given a more legitimate chance to play in 2009 and if he didn’t cut it, Murray should have been our guy, true freshman and cut his teeth on what was already crappy year…and preventing him from starting 2010’s dismal season as a red shirt. I truly believe that if Murray had come in halfway through 2009 season, the 2010 season would have been much much more successful. Who cares if he had given up a year of eligibility, we have Mason and LeMay ready, willing and able for the next few years. QB’s come out of high school every year, no need to feel like you only get one every 4-5 years.
Reaper
April 13th, 2011
3:15 am
Point blank, Logan was high ranked recruit that the coaching staff never developed. I hope this is not a bad sign for this year but, who knows. All I can say is certain changes to the offensive coaching staff were not made and I hope UGA doesn’t pay for that all season long. Staff is not disciplined enough to win a NC and I don’t think it will change this season either. There is no margin for error this season.
AltamahaDawg
April 13th, 2011
7:15 am
That would excluding the “opportunity” in practice every day for 3 years to show the coaches he could be a starter in the SEC?
JE
April 13th, 2011
7:26 am
As long as we do not have an Erk Russell type defense we will always struggle and have to score 30 plus points in most games to have a 6-7 season. The defense last year stunk. Hopefully with the new OL coach we will not have to undergo the same fate on offense this year. Our runners look uninspiring and our returning receivers are not experienced enough due to the loss of two starters for us to have much of an offense. If Murray has the same stats this year as last year we will probably have the same results….Defense has to step up….It did not last year.
CJJScout
April 13th, 2011
8:14 am
He got hosed the year Cox played. He was obviously way more talented and should have started. Still couldn’t have beat Murray out, but he would have had a year to play.
Reynolds
April 13th, 2011
8:32 am
1- “Favoritism is a sin” james 2:9
2- Gray beat Murray in G-Day, and Richt insutated before that game, that the competition was so close, that whoever won the G-Day comeptition, would win the spot. Gray had a much better Murray, yet Richt gave it to Murray.
3- Richt talked Gray into staying by promising to use him a lot. Gray was thrown 9 passes.
Jim
April 13th, 2011
8:40 am
Mike, Logan Gray never quit this team. Yes he could stick around for another year and keep a warm spot on the bench, fair catch a punt or two, and go rah-rah for the boys while we have another half-a$$ year. How you can say this man quit is beyond me. Please direct your comments to the real quiters like Stafford and Green.
NC_Dawg
April 13th, 2011
8:44 am
If / When NFL teams start drafting players to ‘fair catch’ punts, Logan will be a first round draft pick!
RxDawg
April 13th, 2011
8:46 am
“Gray felt like he wasn’t given a realistic shot to win the quarterback job after Matthew Stafford left in 2009. But he admits that Murray won the job fair and square ”
Had to stop there… Isn’t that kind of contradicting?
crossdawg
April 13th, 2011
8:55 am
CMR let a DGD get away. Also, if you read the interview, he didn’t say “you know” the 1st time.
AltamahaDawg
April 13th, 2011
9:46 am
I know I was convinced after that 5 TD, 51 point road win, outdualing Mallet, going 2-0 in the SEC, we needed to scrap the whole season.
RxDawg
April 13th, 2011
9:46 am
OK, I see. He’s talking about when Cox took over. But Cox was a highly recruited 5th year senior so… most people did think he was going to take over anyways. Plus Cox wasn’t quite as bad as a lot of people tried to make it out to be. He had a horrid defense. Don’t know if things would of been better with Gray or not, but water under the bridge now.
However, I too wish that Richt would sit QB’s when they are mightily struggling in games for a series or two and let the #2 give it a shot. During the UF and UCF games I was begging Richt to sit Murray. It was obvious that something was wrong (sore arm?). Why not give the #2 a shot? Funny thing is Richt used to get a bunch of critiscm for doing this too much back in the Shockely/Greene years. But you know what, it worked and we always had a great #2 QB ready to go.
Jay
April 13th, 2011
9:58 am
Gray wouldn’t have made 4 turnovers against Florida, W there, or 3 turnovers against UCF like Murray made, so
With Murray starting–go 0-6 beat 0 ranked teams, finish 6-7
With Gray starting– go 2-4, beat 1 ranked team, finish 8-5
That’s what’s frustrating.
AltamahaDawg
April 13th, 2011
10:02 am
There is not a team in the country not carrying multiple QB’s most of which never end up starting. Practically every one of the career back-ups in the SEC were highly rated, THUS the scholarship offer from a SEC school. This is the same story played out time and time again everywhere else.
DawginLex
April 13th, 2011
10:16 am
If Logan had played instead of Joe Cox in 2009, here are the revised results:
Cox 8-5 losses to Florida,UT,Okie State,KY and LSU
Gray plays QB all the losses would have repeated from above and you could add:
SC
Ark
Auburn
Cox 7-5 bowl win= 8-5
Gray 4-8 no bowl
AltamahaDawg
April 13th, 2011
10:29 am
That is absolutely true, DIL.
Gt4ever
April 13th, 2011
10:32 am
Mike,
You are a true UGA fan…. A total IDIOT!
DawginLex
April 13th, 2011
10:38 am
http://forums.secsportsman.com/tm.aspx?m=134&mpage=1&print=true
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no way Logan Gray could have EVER done this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
don medeiros
April 13th, 2011
10:44 am
If he doesn’t know what he’s going to study in grad school, how can he be allowed to compete? Isn’t one of the “rules” that the new school has to offer a degree that UGA doesn’t offer? Doesn’t he have to enroll in a program that UGA doesn’t offer? Seems a little odd.
Gt4ever
April 13th, 2011
10:46 am
DawginLex,
You guys never fail to amaze me with your superior football knowledge…. The facts are this…. This kid just gave a classey interview, where he could of thrown the coaches under the bus! Guess what, he didn’t! Your coaching is SUSPECT. Period… All the talent you guys get year after year after year…… You were 6 and 7 last year…. Pitiful, is all I can say… If we had 1/2 your talent, we would have won another MNC…. I would say Logan was and will continue to be a CLASS act! If only the IDIOTIC UGA fans would follow suit…
GA-BuffsFan
April 13th, 2011
11:01 am
Welcome to the family. and…GO BUFFS!
DawginLex
April 13th, 2011
11:05 am
GT4ever,
I happen to think coach johnson could win big at UGA.
Now, onto the topic:Logan Gray.
I have no problem with Logan wanting to compete but to say he was not given a chance is wrong. He would have not done as well as Joe Cox at QB despite what some think. He was getting better as a receiver.
As far as the coaching staff is concerned, Richt is clearly on the hot seat in 2011. He gets a pass from me because of what he has done for the past 10 years. He won 2 SEC titles after a 20 year drought. I believe he is a victim of his own success.
dawgfacedboy
April 13th, 2011
11:35 am
Some kids wanna play and some kids just want to be on the team. If he was serious about playing time he should’ve transferred. He’s right though, he never got a fair shot. You have to put kids in situations where they have a chance to be successful. Putting him in to take snaps out of his own endzone against a Florida team that was dominating UGA all day is not a fair opportunity for anyone.
Best of luck to him.
dawgfacedboy
April 13th, 2011
11:36 am
Richt will get a pass this year to see what happens with the “Dream Team”. I would think it’s unrealistic to expect better than a 6-6 or 7-5 season though.
Mike
April 13th, 2011
11:50 am
Maybe you’re Smilin’, Jack because you’re a quitter as well! I was just raised at a time when team was more important than self. It doesn’t appear to be so with this new generation, which you are obviously a part of …
Logan isn’t leaving after a few weeks of his freshman year, realizing that he has made a mistake. He’s a senior, seasoned and knows the score. The coaches have given him every chance and did not see the ability in him – they moved him to wide receiver to give him another chance and he could not compete as a starter. Look, I’m not cutting the kid’s ability, I’m sure he tried and he was a lot more successful than most of us and he has a lot to be proud of. But I have no sympathy for a senior quitting his team mates and taking his bat and ball and going somewhere else, just because he’s not allowed to start. If everyone thought and acted as he did, then I guess we would only have 22 players on the team. The fact that we have 75, most of them upper-classmen, speaks to the fact that they are not quitters. You are welcome to your opinion, but don’t single me out for mine …
Mike
April 13th, 2011
11:56 am
Hey, Gt4ever – Right back to you, sport! Guess you’re a quitter too. Read my comments to your brother,Smilin’ Jack.
AltamahaDawg
April 13th, 2011
12:01 pm
My problem with the “quitter” talk is this:
The kid completed his 4 years of college education while playing for the team for his rent. That was the agreement. Nowhere is is stated that IF the staff decides to redshirt you, there is still an obligation to hang around after your degree is finished. So from a purely contractual basis, he paid his dues.
From a loyalty standpoint, he was willing to change position, return punts , whatever he could. He doesn’t owe anyone anything. From a do anything to help standpoint, he did.
As for bailing on his team. HE is the one that is giving up something. The team isn’t losing anything. HE is the one benefiting FROM the team at this point. There is nothing he can do FOR the team now. So that is his decision. One I think he can make with a very clear conscience.
Mike
April 13th, 2011
12:34 pm
AltamahaDawg,
Thanks for your point. We’re not talking about a business contract here, we are talking about loyalty and dedication. The guys I played with became my best freinds and have remained so for many years. We shared something that most people do not go through and will never understand. I would never have dreamed of leaving them – and no else left either, as I remember.
I would understand if Logan was a real-time hot shot, playing behind a first-round draft pick. In this example, he could probably start and play for anyone else, and increase his own chances in the pros. Logan will not play pro football. He is just part of a one team. He needs to remember that.
Chris
April 13th, 2011
12:36 pm
makes me sick….unless the mentality of the coaches change- e.g play someone becuase he is a senior COX- nothing will change. For this kid not to have been given a chance after what we delt with with Cox??? I hope this team goes 0-12 this year. This kid had more heart than full of himself stafford ever did. Plain and simple….makes me sick as a lifelong UGA fan…
Richard
April 13th, 2011
12:37 pm
Jay, excellent post, and couldn’t agree more.
Dawg Gone
April 13th, 2011
12:39 pm
Logan best of luck to you in your life and career…DGD!!
Paul
April 13th, 2011
12:40 pm
maybe the coaches should be given a dose of their own medicine……no chance to prove this year will be turned around…..lose 1 game and FIRED! We put up with Cox and his lackluster play and now hear the coaches didnt even give this kid a realistic shot????? Unbeleivable!
Kyle
April 13th, 2011
12:46 pm
Pretty telling comments. Suffice to say we have problems in Athens and not sure you can teach an old Dawg new tricks. The mentality of the coaches (especially the head ball coach) will never change. Cox played because he was a senior plain and simple. I am not sold on Murray yet either….he watches plenty of film…..but the fact remains….10-6 vs UCF……not even our worst QB ever went that low…..Hopefully Murray can turn it around but the fact reamins…his numbers and glory came against losing teams….lets not forget WE DID NOT BEAT ONE TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD LAST YEAR.
Reynolds
April 13th, 2011
12:52 pm
In the Book of James, chapter 2, verse 9, it teaches that favoritism is a sin. I wish Richt would put that principle into practice and truly put the best guys on the field.
Nel-Dorado
April 13th, 2011
12:56 pm
You couldn’t have asked for a better team player. He should have gotten more opportunities that season with Joe. He had some real potential. Why they stuck with Joe Cox to the bitter end I’ll never understand?!?!? Good luck in Boulder Logan! You were a DGD.
Kyle
April 13th, 2011
12:59 pm
Good Luck Logan…..really sick at how these coaches treated you. Hopefully we will play Colorado in a bowl (ha! if we make it) and we lose 10-6! I am a lifelong dawg…but what is going on in Athens makes me sick
Joe
April 13th, 2011
1:04 pm
great point….Murray hasnt proved anything except he can beat losing teams…..losers beating losers….I lost a whole lot of respect for these coaches and this team after reading this article. Its time for them to shut up and prove it on the field.
AltamahaDawg
April 13th, 2011
1:04 pm
Right Mike, thats why 2/3 of my post had nothing to do with a business contract. He did everything he could for the team. I would call him VERY loyal. I get what you are saying about good friends and sharing, but that is why you Wanted to stay. (or why he should WANT to stay). You don’t understand why he would give that up, on his own behalf. He would be depriving himself of something. I’m not arguing that. But that’s his call. I am disagreeing the premise that he is somehow depriving his team somehow, or somehow owes them him (sticking around because of why you think it’s good for him.
I’m not following how the fact that he probably won’t play, makes it that much more his responsibility to stick around. That he should for no other reason than he is leaving good friends. Actually I would see it the complete opposite. If he was a hot shot,or there was some way he could help at all, and left THEN he would be harming the team.
oldeagle
April 13th, 2011
1:09 pm
Looks like it was a totally football related move, he never once said I’m going to Colorado to get a grad degree in X which UGA doesn’t offer. I hope things work out for him but it definitely not in keeping with the spirit of the grad transfer rule.
Joe
April 13th, 2011
1:11 pm
would you stick around coaches that didnt give you any chance? Would you stick around losers like King, Ealey, Oline……until proven otherwise this team is full of smack talkers, losers and troublemakers. This team would win a national championship if smack talk in the spring counted.
AltamahaDawg
April 13th, 2011
1:14 pm
And good grief STOP with the BS making up new names to agree with yourself about how terrile Murray is.(as if it really matters who the player is to you) Forgetting Murray, how about this: GET a Life! You are boring the rest of us. It’s gard to imagine anyone can be as big of a loser you are acting like right now. If you enjoy seeing yourself that way………..whatever.
As far as Murray, go ahead and start writing all the other coaches around the league, because they WILL all be voting him All-SEC when media days roll around.
AltamahaDawg
April 13th, 2011
1:20 pm
How stupid does somebody have to be to think that any coach is going to choose to put a player on the field that does not represent in thier mind the best option?
The answer is that nobody is that stupid to believe that. Some folks say that, but they do not believe it. You lose any benifit of credibility to say things that you do not even believe yourself in here.
Joe
April 13th, 2011
1:56 pm
Altam….it is a fact that a players loyalty went a long way with these coaches and no secret that players did play because of that. Talk to some of the players themselves…..talk to some of the COACHES themselves. It really is no secret. A coach can always fall to the “best option” anyone who beleived Cox was our best option was a fool. After the Fla game pretty much anyone could have gone out there and gave us a “better option” the fact that we didnt even try is what makes me upset.
Snoop Dawg
April 13th, 2011
1:57 pm
Obviously, Logan Gray couldn’t have done any worse than Cox. Richt is the person playing the favorites, though. Giving the more senior players preference over better junior players is totally counterproductive to both winning and maintaining a healthful team spirit and attitude.
Preacha Man’s going to the bank, though, and evidently does whatever he wants…
AltamahaDawg
April 13th, 2011
3:16 pm
Except that Cox himself has started over older player on the team at times. And he has been #2 behind younger players at a times. So your theory only hold true, what, some of the time?
Tom
April 13th, 2011
3:16 pm
Aaron won the job fair and square, Logan said it himself. If you are going to say that, don’t make excuses about not having any opportunities. You had opportunities, you just sucked when it came time to perform. Why do you think they moved him to QB?
Are you sure Logan gray isn’t related to Rudy Carpenter?
AltamahaDawg
April 13th, 2011
3:48 pm
No, I get you think Gray would have been better than Cox. Not sure you understand the nature of what a fact is, but I get that you believe it.
I just find it funny that you make up a completely illogical premise to explain it all, rather than just having the balls to say,” I know more about coaching QB’s in college than Mark Richt.”
I’m real sure that he saw it exactly the way you did, but still chose to risk his job, his program, get his staff fired, make his wife move, and screw the other 99 players on the team, out of loyalty to some particular player who was just one of the thousand they he will see come and go. That makes perfect sense.
(not even going to get into the too numerous to name examples of younger player getting the start over more senior players, including Cox)
AltamahaDawg
April 13th, 2011
3:51 pm
Yes Snoop, Logan Gray could have most definetely have done worse than Cox.
dawg67
April 13th, 2011
5:01 pm
is CMR still here, wait till 3rd game, good bye
schmeckdawg
April 13th, 2011
5:39 pm
Sounds like a super cool and classy kid. Good luck Logan with whatever you pursue!!!!!!!!!
Once a DAWG, always a DAWG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Druid City
April 13th, 2011
5:53 pm
Wow. Logan looks like the late Freddie Mercury.
Carl Spackler
April 13th, 2011
7:03 pm
Good luck to Logan. His picture should be in the dictionary next to the word class.
CMR and Bobo always puzzle me with the way they don’t develop more of their players. Could be that there just isn’t enough practices to accomplish what is necessary to get multiple QB’s/players ready. Logan has always had “Happy Feet” and would give up on the pass too quickly. So, giving him the benefit of the doubt, I’ll ass-u-me that this tendency to take flight was never coached out of him.
In an earlier post (way earlier) someone mentioned that Murray made his stat’s against lesser teams,well all teams play against various levels of schedule strength. As far as Murray winning his State Championship game and it being tainted, well his first game, first pass back, against a dang good team was for a TD. Then in the state’s, he beat a talented Lincoln on basically one leg. He manned up, gutted it out, and risked his health because he wanted to be with his teammates. The kid is a leader. Even while he was getting destroyed behind that poor excuse of a veteran line last year, no where did you read, or hear any grumblings from Murray.
So the best to Logan going forward, he has a great resume as a teammate, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him under center at Colorado some. I’m sure with what he picked up from Bobo that he will be a valuable cog, even if it’s just holding a clip board and sharing his knowledge with a younger QB..
People need to move…Logan has…let’s get ready for the 2011 season.
David
April 13th, 2011
7:19 pm
Of course Richt plays favorites at QB, remember when Richt started Tereshinski over Stafford?
Chris Farley
April 13th, 2011
8:34 pm
M-m-m-yeah. That was AWESOME!
HWJ
April 13th, 2011
10:12 pm
logan gray was awful
Musical Chairs
April 13th, 2011
10:40 pm
What a bunch of buffoons in Athens. Boise State will eat our lunch on national T V . Mark it down and call the Fat lady for CMR.
bodawg
April 13th, 2011
10:49 pm
finally at least we don’t have to listen to any more threats.
Camden Mark
April 13th, 2011
11:07 pm
What a fine young man,don’t think they come any better
AltamahaDawg
April 14th, 2011
7:12 am
I remember Richt burning Stafford RS in a blowout opener, late in the game, for no other reason than to announce he had all intentions of playing him as True Freshman. (which obviously would include taking time away from a Senior)
I remember when Richt brought in Stafford in over TWO other more seniority QBs on the roster as well, so that proves what, David?
You cannot seriously believe that JoeT was going to start more than a few games till Stafford could get someplace close to ready (which he clearly proved that he was not for a while).
What you call favoritism, I call actually making a high school kid come in and lift a finger first.
You are a fan of competition, and earning something , I am sure.
AltamahaDawg
April 14th, 2011
7:20 am
I also find it completely strange to suggest IF richt was prone to playing “favorites,” that his star recruit QB Stafford would not have been that guy who got that treatment.
I could understand IF he put in a hotshot kid over a more seasoned QB becasue he was just in love with his prized recruit , how THAT would be considered favortism.
Odd to me as well, how we can’t decide if he favors a senior of over a FR, or is he favored his RSfr last year over more seniot player. We need to make up our minds.
Of cource, the more logical possibility is that its all very player and situation specific, has nothing to do with class, and his “favorite” is who he thinks will be best at the time.
DawginLex
April 14th, 2011
8:35 am
Altamaha,
i have been singing Rocky Mountain high for two days now ever since you posted it!!
Dang you!!!
AltamahaDawg
April 14th, 2011
8:48 am
It’s on my Ipod now.
GaTruth
April 14th, 2011
8:59 am
All you guys talking about wasted talent are knuckleheads. If you are a prominent program who recruits great players, somebody is riding the pines. Texas, Bama, Oklahoma, take your pick. They’ve got third string QBs who could have gone to Iowa State and started all four years. They chose a top flight program knowing the competition would be tough. Gray said he didn’t get a shot b/c Cox was named the starter – there just might be another side to the story.
DawginLex
April 14th, 2011
9:34 am
Gray got plenty of chances at QB.
Remember games like Tenn Tech where he played entire quarters and we scored nothing?
He was not cut out for it. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t a good athlete. doesn’t mean he wasn’t suited to be on the team. He just needed to be in another position which he was.
AltamahaDawg
April 14th, 2011
1:45 pm
I think the other side to the story was professionasl who coach for a living and see the bigger picture than what a player kind of wishes for.
Brian In Columbia
April 14th, 2011
2:41 pm
The guy grew up next to the University of Missouri….do you think that the coaches from Mizzou got a good look at Logan? Well there is a reason they recruited him as a DB or WR.
patrick Sulley
April 14th, 2011
3:21 pm
Cancer
Timmy
April 14th, 2011
8:20 pm
Logan will always have the facts on his side.
Last G-Day:
Logan Gray: 10 of 17 for 132 yards and one TD
Aaron Murray: 10 of 22 for 96 yards, no score and one interception.
Some coaches play favorites.
It Ain't Rocket Science
April 15th, 2011
7:08 am
It seems to me that people forget that being a QB is a lot more than just being able to throw and complete passes. Did Logan face the same defensive setup as Murray did anyway? Maybe Murray has proved to be the better general on the field and has the confidence of his teammates more so than Logan. I am sure there are a lot of factors, we, the average fan do not even consider that the coaches do. After all, they see them everyday and they evaluate based on what they see.
Logan seems like a nice kid and I surely wish him success at Colorado. He did not abandon the team, as some would suggest, and he is doing what is right for his own needs. I don’t think he will be a number one receiver at Colorado and I don’t think he expects to be. He will get a chance to play on the same team as his kid brother and his parents will get to see them both play more this way. He has pursued a degree at UGA, gottten it, and been a classy gentleman his entire time here as far as I can tell. Good luck young man, you will be a success in life I am sure.
Timmy
April 15th, 2011
8:44 am
Obviously, from looking at last season’s G-Day, teammates responded better to Gray’s leadership than Murray’s.They tried harder wqhen Gray was QB, got 13 yards a catch vs.d 9 with Murray, scored a td vs. 0 with Murray.
Gray will always have the facts on his side about who earned the job, Gray proved he was a better leader. Guys didn’t respond to Murray last G-Day, they didn’t respond against any ranked
team with Murray as their QB, no wins, Murray went 0-6 as a starter there. All was predicted by looking at G-Day.
It Ain't Rocket Science
April 15th, 2011
9:04 am
Timmy,
Did Loagan line up against the same defensive players as Murray did? If all was equal, then I would question the choice myself. Murray by the way is one player of 22 starters so he did not lose those games by himself. He had pretty impressive statistics for a first year starter, but I guess if you just want to be negative about something concerning UGA, Murray can be your choice just as much as anybody on the team.
Timmy
April 15th, 2011
11:34 am
I think the question really is, why can’t Murray get any guys to follow him, his guys don’t make plays for him, last G-Day, no td’s, 9 yards a catch, then goign 0-6 against ranked teams, some guys can lead, others just talk about it.
Timmy
April 15th, 2011
11:37 am
Last G-Day:
Gray completed 59%, averaged 13 yards a pass, and scored a td.
Murray completed 45%, averaged 9 yards a pass, and scored 0 td’s.
Guys made plays for Gray, and Mettenberger, just don’t follow Murray’s leadership.
It Ain't Rocket Science
April 15th, 2011
4:00 pm
Timmy,
You didn’t answer my question. Were both Murray and Gray playing against the same set of defensive players? How about, did they have the same exact offensive plays given to them to use? Did they have the same exact offensive players as each other? Some guys just lead, and other guys just voice their opinion without having a leg to stand on. Where do you fit timmy boy?
I think I will let the coaches make the important decisions and I as a fan will just watch the game and cheer for UGA. Not sure who you will cheer for, but if you are a UGA fan, that is sad.
Timmy
April 15th, 2011
4:40 pm
Just for kicks, let’s see if Murray could beat ANY UGA QB, if not Logan, perhaps Mettenberger.
Mettenberger G-Day:
6 of 10 passing for 150 yards, 2 TD’s, 0 Int’s
Aaron Murray’s last G-Day:
10 of 22 passing for 96 yards, 0 Td’s, 1 interception
Nope, Murray couldn’t beat Mettenberger or Gray.
Timmy
April 15th, 2011
5:13 pm
That’s 25 yards a pass for Mettenberger, 9 yards a pass for 3rd best #11.
It Ain't Rocket Science
April 15th, 2011
5:45 pm
Timmy,
You must be obsessed with this aren’t you? He had a pretty good year statistics wise last year if you can take off your blinders long enough to look at them. Why do you refuse to answer the questions I have asked you? G day does not a team or player decide. Is that the best you can do? Mettenberger, your other QB, isn’t even with the team anymore. Remember, he got into trouble. You don’t suppose that had anything to do with his not staying at UGA and being the starter do you? Until you can answer legitimate questions to support your suppositions, I will just have to assume that you are jealous of Murray or maybe just like to say things without a true quanatative anaysis of all the facts.
It Ain't Rocket Science
April 15th, 2011
6:24 pm
Timmy,
Just to give you an idea what statisdtics and facts are, since you are sorely lacking in that area.
Greg McElroy-Alabama 2010 statristics-Senior
CMP=222, ATT=313, YAVG=9.54, TD=20, INT.=5, QB RATING=169
Murray-Georgia 2010, Redshirt Freshman
CMP=209, ATT=342, YAVG=8.92, TD=24, INT.=8, QB RATING=154
See how they can help. Not a lot of difference between Murray and a really fine Alabama QB. The difference was that McElroy had a lot more support from his team than Murray did. The running game was mostly missing when needed, the defense was brand new and didn’t have the personnel needed to be effective. The offensive play calling was made too simple because the OC did not realize that Murray could have grasped it quicker and a more complex offense play calling could have been used. Not to mention the fact, the OC was too predictable.
This is what is known as a quick analysis based on facts, not stupid, unsubstaniated comments. You catch on now?
Timmy
April 15th, 2011
8:26 pm
Come to think of it, Lgan Gray has played well every G-Day, outgunned Cox in 09′ & Murray in 10′.
Poor little Murray, he’s lost everytime he’s gone head ot head with a good QB.
1) Lost at G-Day to Gray.
2) Lost at G-Day to Mettenberger.
3) Lost at South Carolina to Garcia.
4) Lost at Arkansas to Mallet.
5) Lost at Florida to Brantley.
6) Lost at Auburn to Newton.
7) Lost at UCF to Godfrey.
8 shots.
8 losses for Murray.
0 for 8.
Timmy
April 15th, 2011
10:42 pm
It Ain’t Rocket Science/ DawginLex/ AltamahaDawg
Sure sounds a lot like the anonymous blogger sENATOR bLUTARSKY.
WHAT’S UP SEN BLUT?
It Ain't Rocket Science
April 15th, 2011
10:55 pm
Timmy,
You are some piece of work. I am convinced that you are a snert. You refuse to answer questions and of course you repeat the same old stupid stuff about “G Day” stats. I am beginning to think you may have taken a serious liking for Logan, and I mean, like serious. Not much can be done for your mentality since you can’t see the facts plainly spelled out for you and you offer some lame butt excuse about G Day stats. to try and support your point of view. Complete and utter troll as well.
Senator Blutarskyy
April 16th, 2011
10:50 am
Murray threw 24 touchdons, 3 against Lousiana Lafayette. He’as the greatest of all-time!!!
Timmy
April 16th, 2011
10:56 am
Senator, you just don’t get it.
Murray is 0 for 10 against every good QB he’s played.
Lost to Gray & Mettenberger on GDay 2010. Lost to Garcia, Reif, Tyler at Colorado, Mallet, Brantley, Newton & Godfrey. Lost to Mason in 2011 over Spring.
Murray is 0 for 10.
Timmy
April 16th, 2011
11:02 am
Joe Cox & Aaron Murray have a lot in common.
They both threw 19 td’s against unranked teams, and 5 or 6 against ranked teams.
That’s how you go 8-5 or 6-7.
Reynolds
April 16th, 2011
11:30 am
1 Timothy 5:21
I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality, and to do nothing out of favoritism.
Reynolds
April 16th, 2011
11:33 am
Romans 2:11-12
For God does not show favoritism.
It Ain't Rocket Science
April 16th, 2011
6:18 pm
Well Little Timmy,
How are you going to spin the anti-murray tirade and ignore the facts after the G day game you put so much importance in now? I think you just need to tip toe through the tulips and leave the big boy talk to adults.
Jborodawg
April 16th, 2011
7:21 pm
Best of luck to Logan. No, he’s not “quitting” on his teammates. He got his degree and he’s moving on. I kinda question his “play closer to home” sentiments, since Bolder is about as far from Columbia as Athens. But now he also says it’s because his brother is at UC. That makes more sense. Not sure, however, why he couldn’t name his major.
Yeah, the naming of Cox as starter before spring practice does sound like he wasn’t given every opportunity. But that’s also what spring and fall practices are all about. The coaches obviously saw more in Cox than they did in Gray. At least I hope that’s the case.
And yes, as pointed out, he “fair caught” because of field position and almost always being deep into our territory. His sure hands were an asset in those situations. That’s why he was in there. If there’s a strong percentage for a runback, you put a “return man” in there.
“…not sure the direction of the program…”; he’s talking about UC, not UGA. New HC and whole new staff at UC.
Good luck to Logan and thanks for being a team player and a DGD!
Timmy, good grief boy. You a mess.
Timmy
April 16th, 2011
8:35 pm
Woe, Lemay really played awesome to win that game. Anyone notice Bobo didn’t go to Murray when the game was on the line? Smart move.
Since Mason wasn’t allowed back on the field at the end of the game, nor Murray, you can’t credit this win to Murray.
Timmy
April 16th, 2011
8:54 pm
TD count for Spring 2011:
Mason 5, Murray 4: Mason wins, Murray loses again.
It Ain't Rocket Science
April 17th, 2011
6:20 am
One touchdown scored yesaterday and timmy the wonderboy comes up with nine. I knew you were a snert but that may be giving you too much credit. You can’t even count correctly in your “all, so important G day Game”. A bright future awaits you timmy my boy. You have your choice between McDonalds and Burger King, but not as a cashier. Hope you get over your man crush of certain players though. Customers do not like slobber on their food when you spot your certain someone.
Jborodawg
April 17th, 2011
8:20 am
It Aint Rocket… LMAO!
If Murray progresses, we might have the top SEC QB this year. One thing I do hope we do is play the backup QB a little more. As Gray intimates, give em a little more opportunity; not to mention playing time in case #1 goes down…and for the future.
Geathers is lookin’ good. I just hope Jenkins measures up.
Well men; it’s gonna be a LONG summer (waiting for the season to start).
It Ain't Rocket Science
April 17th, 2011
10:38 am
Jborodawg,
I think CMR will play The backup QB’s a little more this season, especially when they play in the fill in games. We might also see them in a bigger roll come the fall practices. We do have three fine young men at the QB position. It is kind of nice to be in that situation.
Timmy
April 17th, 2011
11:20 am
Wow, how bout that 1st half by Murray? 44 yards? Why didn’t Bobo put Murray in to ice the game?
Timmy
April 17th, 2011
11:24 am
If Richt wants to roll the dice on a QB who went 6-7, went 0-6 against ranked teams, ranks among the worst in the NCAA in every pressure category (3rd down, 4th quarter, red zone), who only scored 6 td’s against ranked teams (19 of Murray’s 24 td’s came against teams like Lousisiana Lafayette), more power to Richt. And it will be Richt’s last season. Why can’t Murray throw the deep ball? Why did Murray choke again in the 1st quarter at G-Day?
It Ain't Rocket Science
April 17th, 2011
1:08 pm
Timmy,
Go find miss vicky. Maybe you can entertain her if she is as ignorant as you are. Maybe just maybe she may give you the time of day. What a waste of time you are. I am betting you are 14 if you are a day.
Timmy
April 17th, 2011
6:07 pm
You can see why Logan transferred. Murray doesn’t impress.
Here are some of Murray’s numbers in pressure areas:
1st Quarter- #79 in passing accuracy
4th quarter- #59 in pass effic, last in accuracy in NCAA
3RD & 10+- last in NCAA in accuracy
Red Zone- 83rd in pass accuracy, 86th in pass effic
against ranked teams- 5 td’s, 0-6 record
against unranked teams- 7-0, 19 td’s
It Ain't Rocket Science
April 17th, 2011
9:29 pm
The last thing I am going to say to you Timmy, is you are nothing but a broken record. I am betting you are about 13 or 14, and figure if you ignore stats and make up your own, somebody will be impressed. I hope you mature but I think probably your mental problems are far too great an obstacle to allow that.
Timmy
April 18th, 2011
8:14 am
Consider the teams Murray has beat. La Lafayette, Kentucky, Tenn, Ga Tech, Idaho State, and Vanderbilt. Murray just doesn’t have that “it” factor. Lacks poise, lacks leadership, can’t beat good teams.
Timmy
April 18th, 2011
9:28 am
Murray went up against 4 of the worst pass defenses in the nation, and lost to all 4, 0-4 against the worst:
MSU- #91 pass defense
SC- #97 pass defense
Aub- #108 pass defense
Colo- #110 pass defense
How do you not have career passing days against these 4 teams? How do you go 0-4 against those 4 teams?
Dawg Squeeze
April 19th, 2011
2:08 pm
At least the stuff in his locker will be safe there.