‘When [Fox] first got here, we were a team full of problems’
Greetings from Charlotte, where the Georgia Bulldogs and Washington Huskies will continue preparations for Friday night’s NCAA tournament game. The Huskies flew in from Seattle on Tuesday, and the Bulldogs bused up from Athens on Wednesday. Both teams will have late-afternoon/early-evening press conferences and practices on Thursday at Time Warner Cable Arena.
Before leaving Athens, the Georgia players and coach Mark Fox met with a much-larger-than-usual media contingent at their Stegeman Coliseum practice facility Wednesday afternoon. Some of the topics that I thought were interesting:
- Washington was not only the first school to hire Fox as a coach, but the first to fire him. After working there as a graduate assistant for one season and as an assistant coach for another, Fox lost his job when the school fired head coach Lynn Nance and the entire staff after the 1992-93 season. I asked Fox how he handled that setback so early in his career. “As a young coach, it’s so hard to get your first job at this level,” he said. “When we got let go, I thought, ‘Hey, I finally got my foot in the door, and now it’s closed. Am I going to get it in there again?’ Fortunately for me, I did get another chance.” He spent the following year as a graduate student at Kansas, where coach Roy Williams allowed him to regularly observe practice, and then landed an assistant’s job at Kansas State, where he remained for six years until that staff also was fired. Then on to Nevada … and Georgia.
- In his second season at Washington, Fox was the No. 3 assistant, a position known at the time as “restricted earnings coach” — a position that was limited by the NCAA to a salary of $12,000. “Before taxes,” Fox noted. (The NCAA later lost a class-action lawsuit over the restricted-earnings issue. Coaches who had been in the position, including Fox, received a settlement.) Fox said he still has a copy of his first paycheck at Washington. “I think I made $8 a month after I paid my rent.”
Trey Thompkins says Dogs "ran off" their problems. (AJC photo/Jason Getz)
- Georgia players are proud of the absence of off-court issues in the past two seasons. Travis Leslie: “In the past, players got arrested and kicked off the team. We have had no issues, really, with the team [in two seasons], and hopefully it can stay that way.” Trey Thompkins: “When [Fox] first got here, we were a team full of problems. We had little things as far as academics and taking care of stuff off the court. Coach Fox came in and helped us fix it.” Thompkins cited the famous, familiar story of Fox making the team run every step in Sanford Stadium in 2009. “That was enough for all of us to wake up,” Thompkins said. “Everybody at that point had had a little mishap, and it just led to so much stuff between 13 guys. He took us to the stadium, and we ran all our problems off.”
- Fox: “They did buy into how we wanted them to function, and I think that’s one of the big reasons they’ve earned their way into the tournament. . . . You can’t be successful consistently on the basketball court if you’re not successful off it. I think there’s a real correlation between guys who can function as students and as good citizens also play[ing] well. I think if you have issues off the floor, all it does is take your time and energy and focus away from playing the right way on the floor. So we did talk a great deal about trying to become issue-free, socially and academically.”
- Fox had a strong reaction when asked how 5-foot-9 Washington guard Isaiah Thomas compares to Nate Robinson, a 5-foot-9 former Huskies guard who is now a six-year NBA veteran: “He’s better than Nate. He’s a better player than Nate. And Nate obviously is good enough to be a pro. But Isaiah Thomas is terrific.”
- Fox on Friday’s late tipoff (9:45 p.m. or so): “Most young people don’t go to bed at the same time that I do, so I’m more worried about me than I am [the players].”
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82 comments Add your comment
Vain Jangling
March 17th, 2011
5:21 am
First?
Vain Jangling
March 17th, 2011
5:22 am
Thank you and you’re welcome!
dogforlife
March 17th, 2011
5:36 am
Extend him, give him a raise, elevate his buyout clause so no one will bother him. Let’s keep Fox in our Dawg house!!
jemel riggins
March 17th, 2011
6:10 am
Off the field issue happen in football to and I think the other problem and more
Dawg Consultant
March 17th, 2011
6:44 am
Its amazing how much difference a couple years make. I hat is off to coach Fox and to the Basketball dawgs. UGA now has a “real” basketball program; with no scandals and some very good players.
I can’t wait to see how UGA fares as we make try to make the move to national prominence over the next few years. All we have to do is win our share of recruiting battles in state. Georgia is a high school basketball feast for recruiting.
Good luck DAWGS.
TampaDAWG
March 17th, 2011
7:44 am
Recruiting the next 2 or 3 years will be huge. If Coach Fox can get good recruiting classes then more good players will want to play for him as long as they are winning. As stated above Georgia is a very good state to recruit and if the in state players play at UGA they could start competing on a national level. Toast to the future and Happy St. Patricks day! Go DAWGS!
Dawg Gone It
March 17th, 2011
7:44 am
I love this team. I am so pumped about tomorrow night.
I watched the local news last night and I was really impressed by how Marcus Thorton spoke. I think he is going to be a strong leader in the future. Nay, I’ll go further. He has a strong future, whether it be on or off the court.
Big Al
March 17th, 2011
7:48 am
I wish the football team could say the same.
Travis Leslie: “In the past, players got arrested and kicked off the team. We have had no issues, really, with the team [in two seasons], and hopefully it can stay that way.”
Trojan
March 17th, 2011
7:57 am
Stay one more year, Travis.
truth4yall
March 17th, 2011
8:02 am
GO DAWGS!!! I have bumped into a few of the players over at ECV and they are pretty nice fellas. Get after it tomorrow night and… where’s the green beer? Happy St. Pats Day to the Bulldawg Nation!
Buckeye
March 17th, 2011
8:19 am
Howard ( before I was Trey),
Play with a bur in your saddle! Let’s see some emotion and leadership out there!
david
March 17th, 2011
8:31 am
Football has 130 kids in the program. Basketball has 13. Chill.
GT is a 4th rate high school team
March 17th, 2011
8:33 am
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAWGS. Sic’ em.
go get em
March 17th, 2011
8:34 am
Nice job fox and the entire basketball dawgs. Proud to be a uga fan. Now go out there and play hard and smart for 40 minutes!
Debbie Downer Dawg
March 17th, 2011
8:38 am
This is a nice story, but we will undoubtedly lose in the first two rounds and Fox will be gone in a couple of years for a more prestigous job. Then it will be back to square one.
Let’s be realistic.
Inlet Dawg
March 17th, 2011
8:42 am
Gooooo !!! Dawgs make it a St. Patricks day to remember
Jag Dawg
March 17th, 2011
8:46 am
Good Luck Dawgs! Continue to represent UGA well. Do not ever let Fox leave for another school. National Championship would be great, being at least relevant and a consistent, competetive tournament team is priceless. GOOO DAWGS!
Palm City Dawg
March 17th, 2011
8:46 am
Proud of these guys and Coach Fox. Sick em Dawgs.
Dawggone
March 17th, 2011
8:47 am
We don’t need to let NCS are anyone else steal Fox..do what U must to keep him a dawg. Damn good Coach and human. It didn’t just happen, thanks Fox.
GTFan
March 17th, 2011
8:50 am
Congrad to Coach Fox and his team. Job well done. Now kick Washington’s a@@.
lucky21
March 17th, 2011
8:51 am
Hey dawgforlife don’t be so quick to start talking about extensions and buyouts increasing I mean look how that turned out for Georgia Tech.
Truth
March 17th, 2011
8:59 am
to heap praise on a coach with the resources of a BCS school who took 4 years to make it to the NCAA is a bit too much. Other non BCS teams whose coach left to take a job at KY and took the top recruiting class in the nation with him made it back after 1 year. With Freshman playing 75% of the minutes…
Floundering Fox Hounds Batman !
March 17th, 2011
9:01 am
If Fox continues to blow big leads the UGA job could become his third firing.
D Dog
March 17th, 2011
9:01 am
Sounds like the team already feels like they’ve accomplished all their goals.
I expect them to lose by 12.
Bawbie
March 17th, 2011
9:07 am
Fire Dave Perno . He blew it against frickin Kennesaw State. Pathetic…..
nerds! nerds! nerds!
March 17th, 2011
9:08 am
Dawgs in the Elite 8. Write that down!
JDawg1785
March 17th, 2011
9:09 am
Congrats, Coach Fox! Keep it going.
One and Done
March 17th, 2011
9:13 am
Dawgs lose by 10 or more.
SouthSide Dawg
March 17th, 2011
9:14 am
Congratulations to Fox and the Team. My wife and I were able to make the trip to Athens this year for a game. Not knowing what to expect, we were very impressed with Georgia’s round ball Dawgs. We’re very excited that this team has made it into the Tournament and wish them all the best of luck. I encourage the DawgNation to support this team and hope more fans make it to Stegeman Coliseum next year. The Momentum has shifted and the wave is starting to swell….be a part of it.
frannie mae
March 17th, 2011
9:18 am
UGA is in BIG BIG trouble.
mcdawg
March 17th, 2011
9:19 am
based on the two articles in the AJC on Washington today-sounds like they are going to kill us
stegosaurus
March 17th, 2011
9:22 am
The coliseum is nothing more than lipstick on a pig. The stench of past rodeos still permeates through the AC system.
Obamas bracket
March 17th, 2011
9:24 am
Dawgs not in the next round.
Charles
March 17th, 2011
9:25 am
Truth – Fox has been at UGA two years.
To those consistently worried about losing Fox. He’s going nowhere unless it’s to one of the blue bloods. He has a $2 million dollar buyout and is in the top-20 salaries in the country, with a raise coming in the very near future. He knows what UGA is capable of in hoops. He sought out this job when it opened, and he’ll be here for a while unless a program like Kansas comes calling.
UGA has not lost a coach in its history that we truly tried to keep – Vince let Tubby go to Kentucky without a fight, though it wouldn’t have mattered much. It would take a similar situation to lose Fox.
NCST – that’s a laughable notion. That job is mediocre – Fox won’t take a second look towards Raleigh.
mcdawg
March 17th, 2011
9:27 am
Georgia is loaded w/ top talent-it should be a dream job for any coach
Rishi
March 17th, 2011
9:33 am
stegosaurus its not the ac system, you probably should just stop bringing your mother to the games…go dawgs woof
SimpleDawg
March 17th, 2011
9:40 am
This doesn’t look like a good first round match up for the Foxhounds……
The Huskies like to run and gun. The Dawgs like to play half court sets and pound the ball inside.
The team that controls the tempo and makes the other team play at their desired pace will win the game.
Good luck Dawgs….looks like you may need some.
UGA Insider
March 17th, 2011
9:41 am
Coaches were telling me that the Bruce Pearl era at UT is over. Also, both football and basketball are about to be hit with major recruiting infractions and Hamilton will be gone soon as well. Not good times in Knoxville or Auburn.
mcdawg
March 17th, 2011
9:46 am
rebounds, rebounds, rebounds
gdawginkalamazoo
March 17th, 2011
9:48 am
See running does discipline the kids. Great job Coach Fox. This game will come down to the coaching. Finding a way to slow down Washington will be tough. I got to see then end of the Arizona game and this Thomas kid was on fire. Scoring at will. When you play against guys like that it is tought to win.
Go Dawgs!
Luke
March 17th, 2011
9:52 am
SimpleDawg-
Honestly, I don’t think whoever controls the temple will win the game. It’ll be the guard play from Georgia. We all know that Georgia’s guard play, between Ware and Robinson have been mediocre at best, and Washington have a couple guards that will be future NBA superstars.
If Georgia can take care of the ball and not turn it over, it’ll be close. However, if they don’t Washington runs away with this one.
A review of the first two years
March 17th, 2011
10:02 am
2009-2010 was the wash out year. It was going to happen. Fine. It is behind the team.
We desired a 20+ win season going into this year. UGA grads know how pathetic UGA basketball has been forever. A 20+ season was goal # 1. Goal # 2 was to win at least one SEC Tourney game. These two goals have been met.
Goal # 3 was to get an invitation to The Dance. THAT goal has been met. 2010-11 has been ultra successful for UGA, given our history in basketball. Sad but true.
Obviously, goal # 4 is to win 1 game in the NCAAs. One win would be simply wonderful. If we lose, Goal # 3 has been met. Either way …………… for UGA this has been a very good season # 2. Great job Coach Fox!!
Let us have some fun with this game tonight. We are already winners for the 2010-11 season. All or our goals have been met.
UGA class of 71 & 73
schmeckdawg
March 17th, 2011
10:06 am
After reading what the AJC had to say about Washington, why did we even get on the bus to go to Charlotte? It’s obvious that The DAWGS have no shot to win this game especially with Isiah Thomas a.k.a Michael Jordan II playing. For the love of Pete!!! DAWGS by 8!!!!!!
Diamond Dogs
March 17th, 2011
10:07 am
Perno has lost it. State of Ga is rich with college level HS talent and he is not winning.
McGarity …………… make it happen.
Also the lady Dogs basketball coach should have been fired twenty years ago.
Go Dogs.
GT Grad
March 17th, 2011
10:10 am
I wish he was our coach. He has done a great job! Wish them luck in the tournament.
Paul N Destin
March 17th, 2011
10:10 am
One of Coach Paul Bryant’s favorite descriptions of his players was “a solid citizen”. You can’t build anything without those type guys. I understand it is much more difficult these days to keep everyone toeing the line but you must have discipline in any organization to be successful.
Good luck to the Dogs vs the other Dogs.
GTBob
March 17th, 2011
10:28 am
NCST – that’s a laughable notion. That job is mediocre – Fox won’t take a second look towards Raleigh.
Hmm. I’m not so sure about that. NC State would pay him more then UGA ever would, he would be coaching a team with good history on tobacco road in front of 14000 fans, in the ACC. It’s a pretty enticing job. I’m not sure if NC State is really going after him but he would be a fool to not consider it.
Dirty Dawg
March 17th, 2011
10:30 am
Everything I read and hear about this Washington team and the Thomas kid makes me think that we’re gonna get blown out. But the way I figure it – and how I filled out my NCAA Bracket – is if these kids, Georgia, worked hard enough, and were fortunate enough to get into the tournament, then the least I can do is sacrifice one game, or so, for the cause…so I picked us. Now if the Huskies go all the way to the Final Four, I will have really ‘done it to the pooch’ – so to speak.
ormewood
March 17th, 2011
10:31 am
Sorry Luke, no guards on the UW team will be NBA superstars. Thomas is good, but he’s not that.
Alabama | MrSEC.com
March 17th, 2011
10:32 am
[...] If the Dawgs get by Washington in their first game, North Carolina will likely be waiting. And Fox spent a year studying Roy Williams’ program at Kansas.7. UGA linebacker signee Sterling Bailey underwent shoulder surgery last week.8. Kentucky [...]
Gordon
March 17th, 2011
10:37 am
I think Felton deserves some credit. Think of where the program was when he took over.
gdawginkalamazoo
March 17th, 2011
10:45 am
Dirty Dawg, I fill out a couple of different brackets. Since Georgia made the dance my first bracket has them going all the way and winning the title. I just can’t help doing that as a dawg fan. Have to have my team winning.
Jborodawg
March 17th, 2011
10:52 am
Luke @9:52 am; “….If Georgia can take care of the ball and not turn it over, it’ll be close…”
I agree. IF we shoot well and don’t turn it over…and don’t have one of those 2nd half collapses, it should be a great game.
BTW, the Huskies are also known as the “Dawgs” in Washington. Weird, seeing as how damnyankees like to make fun of our colloquialism.
Great job by coach Fox; keeping em out of trouble and adjusting those attitudes!
Goooo Dawgs! Take it to those other “dawgs wannabes”!
Charles
March 17th, 2011
10:58 am
GTBob – of course you’d say that; you’re an acc homer. NCST battles with Wake to be the third most important program on Tobacco Road. The ACC is also not what it once was.
Fact of the matter is that UGA has far more money than State – we will pay him as he continues to win. Hell, he’s already paid handsomely. And even if NCST does want to pay a coach $3 mill, as is rumored, Fox has a $2 mill buyout. Good luck with that.
Fox likes the UGA job. He’s got incredible in-state talent. He has a brand new world-class practice facility. The Steg actually looks great after the renovations. Fox understands that he can build a legacy at UGA – he won’t leave unless it’s for a job he simply can’t turn down. State would be a lateral move at best at this point, especially when you consider how much work he’s already put in on the recruiting trail.
Can’t wait to see Caldwell next year, and the ‘12 class is going to be outstanding.
wayxdog
March 17th, 2011
10:59 am
If it is fourth and inches, Fox better not go for the field goal.
DAWG ONE
March 17th, 2011
11:00 am
GTBob, you are right. Some of these posters don’t know or remember Jimmy “Jimmy V” Valvano and the history of NC State. These NC schools have had BB programs of excellence for years, so they are not to be taken lightly. However, our pockets are deep and therefore I don’t see us letting him go anywhere that is not elite. Another factor, if he left and was not so successful, what would his future hold? He is a young guy with many years of coaching ahead of him and in talent rich GA, he is smart enough to see what can be with the foundation he is laying.
I hope McGarity and Adams will be careful not to get into a situation like GT. Salaries can be put together using a number of methods, such as annuities that will be a lifetime income for someone in this income bracket. At least that could provide assurance that an above average income for he and his family was assured.
Let’s all DAWG fans realize that this man is a quality, classy individual that appears to be a winner in every way. His philosophy is beginning to come out so I am sure there will be much more to him as we go forward. GO DAWGS!
Charles
March 17th, 2011
11:05 am
Dawg One – NCST does have more history than UGA. But that has absolutely no bearing on whether the job is better moving forward.
UGA hoops has great potential, as you seem to understand. As long as we pay Fox appropriately and the fans get their butts in the seats over the next couple of years, Fox will make his home in Athens.
Remember, he came after this job. He gets it.
GaCracker
March 17th, 2011
11:07 am
Why punish the innocent players by making them run Sanford also. They get the same “punishment”, but none of the fun of the mischief!
gdawginkalamazoo
March 17th, 2011
11:14 am
GaCracker, those “innocent” players will make sure the others tow the line. Peer pressure is a good thing when used properly.
Tallcarl
March 17th, 2011
11:30 am
Go Dawgs, if you win two or more in the turnament I will be estatic and Georgia will be abe to pitch that building block to new recruits. I do not care if we get players from up North or out west as long as we get good players and good students. The instate premaddonas can continue to choose Alabama, Tenn. or where ever. If they do not want to play in state and make the teams here better I do not want them. Bebbie D. Dawg, get some help for your depression and try to develope a more positive attitude as it will help you in your small dark world.
JROLL1
March 17th, 2011
11:37 am
COACH FOX WOULD HAVE GOTTEN MY ATTENTION TOO IF I HAD TO RUN EVERY STEP IN THE STADIUM!!!!
npgator
March 17th, 2011
11:41 am
Good luck from a Gator! Represent the SEC!
thomas
March 17th, 2011
11:47 am
Former problems summed up in two words – DENNIS FELTON!
Hector
March 17th, 2011
12:32 pm
No connemt!
GTBob
March 17th, 2011
12:34 pm
DAWG ONE, I agree with everything you said, and I do believe UGA is a good job for a basketball coach, I was just saying that when other prestigious programs, come calling with an open wallet you almost have to listen. If Fox continues his success then this will happen with several teams in the future and it raises the question, how far is UGA willing to go to keep Fox? Do they pay him like the more basketball centric schools will pay him?
WIN WITH RICHT
March 17th, 2011
12:45 pm
If Dawgs can finish strong in tournament games, they have the potential to make a good run like in 1983.
Too Easy
March 17th, 2011
1:33 pm
And I recall that we had to go through UNC that year, as well.
Too Easy
March 17th, 2011
1:34 pm
Just didn’t get past NC State – but who did?
Me
March 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
Regarding the last line of the article, I’m more worried about Fox too. Let’s hope he doesn’t have a chance to bungle the end of the game like he has for most of the season.
DawgMan
March 17th, 2011
3:13 pm
We are Dawg and that is enough to when we take court with our opponant and a ball and some shorts. Basketball at Georgia is a lot like football use to be when we had a better team and some charactar but its gone now and we are mostly unlike.
Robin Hood
March 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
Saw the Dogs play in S.C. During the national anthem the whole team and coaching staff had their hands over their hearts. Thanks to Coach Fox for adding class with the wins.
washington husky
March 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
Hi Georgia.
Bored at work here in the pacific NW, so i thought I’d break down the team for you and where I see the player weaknesses. Someone said that the UW guards are future NBA superstars, that’s not true, but many are future NBA players. That is NOT the case for our front court.
IT: When it is getting around 10 assists a game, UW wins. I hope he sees that and focuses on distributing. He can get hot, but his real damage is when he is a play maker. (possible NBA point guard)
Ross: Very talented and athletic freshmen. Can take ill advised shots and can be a liability on defense. He has the most pro potential of any guard on UW.
Wilcox: possible NBA prospect. has a gorgeous and quick shot and the athleticism to make it. Makes freshmen mistakes
Suggs: a very good spot up shooter and doesn’t make many mistakes. doesn’t have the upside of Wilcox or Ross but plays better defense.
Vernoy Overton: Guy who just got back from suspension for some bad decision making. Dangerous going to the hole, and dangerous with on ball pressure. Poor shooter, can get beat due to overcommitting on defense and also sometimes a poor decision maker on the court.
Front Court:
Matthew Brian Amaning: Our only real low post, post up presence. Good player, great athleticism but goes on LONG cold streaks. Prone to foul trouble because he usually guards other teams best big man.
Aziz Ndaye: Big, athletic and Raw. Prone to foul trouble, hasn’t played much basketball
Justin Holiday: Really smart player and good defender possible late round NBA prospect. Used to have a nice outside shot but hasn’t hit anything for months it seems
GANT: Our utility guy. Can hit the outside jumper and plays good defense. Won’t burn you for large points but can make the difference in small ways.
I think that’s it. We lost our starting point guard (Abdul Gaddy) who has definite pro potential, that hurt us.
As a team sometimes we go cold due to good D and often times zone defense. our defense starts our offense when we play well.
I’d say this is the most talented Husky team in the Romar era (which included several sweet sixteen and tournament teams). However that hasn’t translated to the most successful team in the Romar era. They are vulnerable to get beat on any given night, but have the firepower to blow out many teams.
Should be a great game for both sets of DAWGS. It’s just great to be dancin in march, right? Take care!
404
March 17th, 2011
4:12 pm
Was he referring to the UGA football team, the UGA Basketball team, or both ????
puppydawg
March 17th, 2011
4:19 pm
If we can add some depth to this team, we will be fine. IMHO, lack of depth was the primary reason for our failure to play consistently for 40 minutes. With a couple more blue chippers, we will not blow those big 2nd half leads, a la Bammer. Hopefully, this year’s moderate level of success will lead to a recruiting class that can help make us a contender for the SEC title. Only time will tell but the future looks bright. Thanks to CMF for bringing excitement back to the Steg!
Wilhemina
March 17th, 2011
8:37 pm
Now that we’re in the off-season, wouldn’t this be the perfect time to take an in-depth look at UGA and have a serious discussion about the problems at UGA and why the arrest rate of players is the highest in the country? it’s common knowledge that UGA is a party school, but have any dawgtard players every actually graduated with a real degree? Jan Kemp exposed the school and the coaches almost three decades ago, but there is no sign that anything has improved; if anything, the arrest rate shows that things are getting more outrageous every year while the clueless Mark Richt has absolutely no control over his players. And then there is the infamous “red panties” incident that will haunt UGA for decades.
UGA has become a major embarrassment to all Georgians, and we want some answers starting now.
BornADawg
March 17th, 2011
8:38 pm
Keep the turnovers to eight or less, play tough with no mental lapses for forty minutes and DEFEND IN THE PAINT and I like our chances. No lead is too much…Keep the hammer down!! Can’r wait until tomorrow night…Thanks for a great year CMF and players…Go DAWGS!!!!
NRBQ
March 17th, 2011
10:16 pm
And Hector wins thought of the year on any blog anywhere:
“No Connemt!”
icedawg
March 18th, 2011
12:05 am
Fox has done an excellent job, quite remarkable. He could have six great seasons and then a couple of downers and the bloggers would be calling for his head just like someone else I know.
college is forever
March 18th, 2011
1:31 am
http://www.collegelunchboxes.com Come on Dogs make some noise beat the Huskies.
BYRDDAWG
March 18th, 2011
1:41 pm
9:45 can’t get here soon enough! Turn on the tv hit mute & listen to my buddy Scott Howard call the game…GO DAWGS!!!!
wildbill
March 20th, 2011
11:31 am
Mark Fox wears great suits and looks good. Isn’t that enough for UGA basketball?
The tape don't lie
March 23rd, 2011
1:50 pm
For those of you that recorded the game… go to where there was 7:26 showing on the clock and Thornton goes to tuck in his shirt. He is either wearing a red jock strap with lace or some funky red panties. I thought that was pretty funny given the whole Damon situation last year. Maybe the players are doing this as a joke or maybe Thornton is articulate for another reason?