On oversigning, reseeding and rumor mongering …

Emptying the notebook . . .

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Sounds like the SEC spring meetings in Destin will be quite interesting. Three SEC football coaches defend the practice of oversigning in this Wall Street Journal article –- the same practice that Florida President Bernie Machen called “reprehensible” in this SI.com article.

UGA President Michael Adams briefly addressed the topic at Georgia’s athletic board meeting last week:  “We will not oversign,” he said. “Issues of grayshirting and oversigning in football — and some of the other [compliance] issues that have been in the press — are issues that I know will be on the presidents’ agenda for Destin.”

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Speaking of the SEC spring meetings, another issue sure to be on the table is the seeding format for the conference’s men’s basketball tournament.

The past two seasons of disparity between the divisions –- the East much stronger than the West –- have drawn criticism to a system that gives the top two finishers in each division a first-round bye, even if, say, the third-place team in one division has a better record than the second-place team in the other.

“It was a topic of debate [at last spring's meetings], and we couldn’t come to a consensus,” Georgia coach Mark Fox said on his weekly radio show Monday night. “There were really three options: Leave things the way they were; reseed the tournament but award byes to the division champs; or just reseed the entire tournament. I think we’re getting closer to [a change] just because there’s been such a disparity in the East and the West the last couple of years, and I think the media is hounding the league to make a change.”

Fox said he voted last year to reseed the tournament. “I do think if you’re going to have two divisions, you should reward the division champ with a bye but not the second-place team,” he said.

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February provided two instructive examples of how rumors outrun reality.

Remember the night of Feb. 7, when Bulldog Nation was aTwitter with the rampant rumor that Washaun Ealey had been dismissed from the team? He had not been dismissed, of course, and his suspension from off-season activities was lifted almost two weeks before the start of spring practice.

Then there was the afternoon of Feb. 21, when the rumor rocked Bulldog Nation that quarterback Aaron Murray had a broken ankle or worse. It turned out, once the X-ray and MRI results were read, that the ankle was merely sprained. And Murray, like Ealey, is expected to be available for spring practice.

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At his second Athletic Board meeting as Georgia’s AD, Greg McGarity drew praise from Adams.

“I want to compliment Mr. McGarity for the way he has come in [and] taken hold on the reins,” Adams said. “He and I talk a couple of times a week. I have found him to be thoughtful and open to diversity of opinion and committed to doing things right and to winning.”

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With two games left in the regular season, Georgia still could finish anywhere from second to fifth in the SEC East. The current standings:

Florida 11-3

Vanderbilt 9-5

Georgia 8-6

Kentucky 8-6

Tennessee 7-7

South Carolina 5-9

LSU coach Trent Johnson said Monday that Georgia has “probably locked up” an NCAA tournament berth “as we speak,” but Fox isn’t assuming that.

“Hopefully we have earned the respect of the selection committee . . . but I do think we have to win a few more games to feel comfortable,” Fox  said.

After finishing the regular season with games against LSU in Athens on Wednesday night and at Alabama on Saturday afternoon, the Bulldogs move on to the SEC tournament next week in Atlanta.

– Tim Tucker, AJC

87 comments Add your comment

Buckshot

March 1st, 2011
10:46 am

could it be?

coachx

March 1st, 2011
10:47 am

Time to finish strong. Finishing the regular season with 21 wins would be SWEET !

Go DAWGS !

Buckshot

March 1st, 2011
10:48 am

yes , it could. Definitely should re-seed the tourney. Division champs should get the only byes, then seed according to conference record.

Worm

March 1st, 2011
10:58 am

The Techies started the Murray rumor.Amazing how they know all the dawgs business, but one of their athletes gets a DUI and it takes a month to be reported.
Sitting out one baseball game for a DUI is really some serious punishment..

THE MAJOR

March 1st, 2011
10:58 am

They should reseed the divisions for football also since the East is terrible.

Dawgs1

March 1st, 2011
10:59 am

We can win both these remaining games and possibly 2 in the SEC tourney. In spite of poor finishes in several games, we are ahead of schedule.

Mr McGarity, please lock up Coach Fox longterm.

Go Dawgs!

Dawg_Mike

March 1st, 2011
11:03 am

Oversign.com is the new Alabama website….

Dawgs1

March 1st, 2011
11:04 am

We need Adams and Machan to shame these other schools into a halt with oversigning. Level the playing field and do what’s right by these athletes and their families.

Gary

March 1st, 2011
11:04 am

This team has shown they have the ability to beat any team in the conference if they focus for both halves. Looking forward to them proving it with an SEC tournament championship, regardless of how it is seeded. No need for a tornado this year. The bench will need to step up though if we want to have success at the big dance.

P. Bull Terrier

March 1st, 2011
11:22 am

Interesting idea from “THE MAJOR” about reseeding the divisions for football. The only problem with it is that they don’t play a tournament in football. Oh well…

Beast from the East

March 1st, 2011
11:24 am

Teams that oversign and pull an offer within 7 days of NSD should lose that same amount of scholarhsips the next year. That will deter the practice and level the playing field. It’s a shady practice that needs to be addressed…..not just “discussed”.

Paul in RDU

March 1st, 2011
11:25 am

The article on oversigning shows that they can’t count in Mississippi
Houston Nutt, Mississippi’s coach, signed 31 players in 2008, 37 in 2009, 25 last year and 28 last month.
Ole Miss math – 31 + 37 + 25 + 28 = 85

Beast from the East

March 1st, 2011
11:27 am

Gary,
You’re correct that UGA can paly with anyone in the conference. The problem seems to be their lack of depth. Thus the letdowns in the second half of games. The end of season tournaments seem to favor teams with a deeper bench.

dawg gone

March 1st, 2011
11:37 am

Tim nice article..you know I wasn’t saying you would be making stuff up I hope ! LOL

RambleOn84

March 1st, 2011
11:40 am

How bout those Thugs in Atlanta!!

ANOTHER Tech athlete with a DUI.

my, my, my

DZ

March 1st, 2011
11:47 am

Some of you have screwed up priorities when you think that oversigning is a big problem but getting players arrested is not. I know you all just adore St. Mark Richt but you should be questioning his disciplinary tactics. Lack of discipline spills over onto the field.

A review is in order for UGA

March 1st, 2011
11:54 am

I said one year ago at SEC Tourney time, that “in 2010-11 if UGA can finish around 20-11 or 21-10 or close to that with 20 pre tourney wins, then win one or two in the SEC , then it will be a wonderful season”. For UGA this had to be our most realistic shot. We are nearly there !!!

If we do get an invite to The Dance, that will be absolute gravy. If we were to win onyl 1 there, then that will be wonderful. Two wins would be fabulous !!!

We will judge the program’s long term progress in about one or two more years. Frankly, if UGA can just challenge for the EAST every year, that will be fabulous. We need to lock down Mark Fox too.

Go Dogs.

UGA, class of 71 & 73.

Committee on Anti-Alabama Activities

March 1st, 2011
11:57 am

Dawg_Mike

March 1st, 2011
11:03 am
“Oversign.com is the new Alabama website”- Dawg_Mike

Dawg_Mike,

Nick Saban signed 23 players this year- 2 under the limit of 25 per class. Mark Richt signed 26 so CMR actually OVERsigned. Just the facts sir. Now go sit in your little corner and STFU!

SugarHillDawg

March 1st, 2011
12:31 pm

C’mon Dawgs1, you think those “other schools” are capable of being shamed? You have to have shame first and the only guiding principle “those schools” have is WINNING!!!!

uncle kirk

March 1st, 2011
12:42 pm

#1bamafan

March 1st, 2011
12:43 pm

Dawg Mike….how about CHAMPIONS.COM for the BAMA website. RTR

uncle kirk

March 1st, 2011
12:45 pm

Committee, He actually could have signed 2 more at UGA and NOT oversigned considering 3 enrolled early which counts toward last year…..oh and UGA only signed 17 or 18 last year. So worry about Lucifer and we will worry about St. Mark

longdog

March 1st, 2011
12:51 pm

committee you must be smoking something, please back up your facts.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 1st, 2011
12:52 pm

Bad news gets reported ONLY if it is bound to make a lot of hits i.e. UGA. GT is a NO NEWS issue so the DUI is a 4th rate story, essentially a NO NEWS, no hits expected.

GT is a 4th rate high school team

March 1st, 2011
12:55 pm

BAMA fans, get off this blog and just go to Toomer’s Corner to enjoy your piece of work.

dawg gone

March 1st, 2011
12:56 pm

DZ lets review shall we underage drinking and misdemeanor traffic beefs are worse than a coaching staff, promising a young person a place and then poof there is no place for them? Kids are knuckleheads and will do what knuckleheads do…the adults should be held to their word

Tide got Rolled

March 1st, 2011
12:58 pm

#1bamafan how about TreeKillersareUS.org…sound about right?

the real Old Gold

March 1st, 2011
1:06 pm

Tech Thugs…it’s all we can recruit!

trupert

March 1st, 2011
1:17 pm

The worst thing about oversigning is the one thing that can’t be seen or accounted for.

A young man that is told to take a medical hardship who is not hurt, or who is just run off etc, not only has he lost his dream of playing college ball but he is being shown that lying and cheating is how you get by in life.

Tide got Rolled

March 1st, 2011
1:23 pm

trupert agree with your 1:17 post and funny that Bama has as many or more medical hardship cases that the rest of the SEC combined…but it a good thing because the kid get to stay in school without them Satan and Co would just run them off empty handed.

NewnanDawg

March 1st, 2011
1:47 pm

If the Hoop Dawgs take care of business, they still have a longshot at a 2 seed and a bye in the SEC tourny. Think about it – Dawgs have LSU at home and Bama away; Vandy has Kentucky away (wher Cats haven’t lost), and Florida at home. Regardless, I am very pleased with the progress so far this year and look forward to sending JP and Chris out with a win at home and knowing they have earned their way to the NCAAs.
Go Dawgs!

7576DAWG

March 1st, 2011
1:50 pm

The SEC need’s to nip the practice of over signing in the rear right now and stop letting the Attitude’s and practices of coaches like Saban and Nutt become the norm in the SEC. IT ALL ABOUT INTEGRITY BABY INTEGRITY .

DawginLex

March 1st, 2011
1:51 pm

Champions.com comes pretty cheap these days………….

UGA-2 SEC titles since 2000
Bama-1 SEC title since 2000

HWJ

March 1st, 2011
2:06 pm

Dawginlex,

I am a huge Georgia guy, but I trade a SEC Championship for a National Title any day of the week.

Paul N Destin

March 1st, 2011
2:08 pm

Poor little Dog fans. Mean Ole Nick is running folks off? UGA lets the police thin your team each year. Don’t hear much from your sissy President about thugs going wild in Athens. Just goes to show how stupid he is. He and the UF guy is so stupid for running their mouth when both have more arrest than any school in the SEC. Denial is not a plan. These are the facts sir.

Tide got Rolled

March 1st, 2011
2:34 pm

Paul N Destin from the record I don’t think CMR is scared of Mean Old Nick…who you guys think you are the Gators? What should the penalty be for stealing a young man’s dream be there big guy? And how does that equate to a kid being a kid…and paying for it when they do your bunch lies to these kids faces, their parents faces and the TV cameras and don’t have to pay anything for it…that the crime we should be talking about .

JB

March 1st, 2011
2:59 pm

Glad to hear that he thinks McGarity is committed to winning……but is Adams? The fact that Mark is such a good person has given him some time to address a mediocre football team the last couple of years, but sooner or later he will have to put this program in to contending again.
Mark, IMO, has as many weaknesses as strengths as a Head Football coach.

#1bamafan

March 1st, 2011
3:26 pm

Tide got Rolled….you are not only a whiner but a loser. If your Team or Coach ever does anything, let us know. RTR

Tide got Rolled

March 1st, 2011
3:41 pm

I think my bunch came back from 24 down just this year and beat that Bama Butt….

Dru'

March 1st, 2011
4:01 pm

Sometimes rumors turn out to be ture. Mettenberger–left, Gray–left.

My guess is Ealey will transfer, bout a 98% chance.

DawginLex

March 1st, 2011
4:08 pm

Dru’,

We are all hoping you transfer to another blog

DawginLex

March 1st, 2011
4:09 pm

Mettenberger-kicked out

Gray left to be close to family for senior year and play at D2 level where he could play QB. not good enough to play QB at UGA.

Stinger2

March 1st, 2011
4:10 pm

Dawgs 1 posted a recommendtion to lock Fax up with a log term contract. Did he mean one like GT gave Hewitt?

Al E.

March 1st, 2011
4:11 pm

What a shock. The 3 biggest scumbag coaches in the conference defending their practices. Surprised Saban let them upstage him.

Dru'

March 1st, 2011
4:27 pm

Richt has some kind of vendetta against superstars that show up his personal favs like Murray & Crowell.

AltamahaDawg

March 1st, 2011
4:29 pm

DZ, is it possible that some of think oversigning is a problem AND we hate it when players get arrested?

AltamahaDawg

March 1st, 2011
4:30 pm

Who has “showed up” Crowell?

Pup Fan

March 1st, 2011
4:34 pm

DawginLEx,
Great comment to Dru’! Funny stuff!!!!
Go Dawgs!

Nesbitt for Heisman (BWWAHAHA)

March 1st, 2011
4:38 pm

I wonder if Auburn will budget more of their 2011 cheating money for basketball or if the impending reforestation cost of Toomer’s corner will slow their corruption down for a while?

collegeballfan

March 1st, 2011
4:56 pm

I would be stunned if UGA is not in the tournament.