Georgia saw Cam Newton as ‘more of a tight end prospect’

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I am VERY excited to hear Cam Newton explain the open case he has in Alachua County, Florida right now regarding “Driving with a suspended license”….. you know, the same charge that has gotten several UGA football players ARRESTED.

Here, look for yourself, it’s the 13th (thirteenth!!!) traffic violation on this list of his violations while at Florida

https://www.alachuaclerk.org/court_records/gis/index.cfm?section=results

Any Auburn fans wan to help him out in his explanation??

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Imagine that-Richt wanted to make Cam a tightend-Go figure. And Dawg fans ask why we cant get the most out of our recruits?

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So, you know Farley is there, make sure he gets blocked. When you have a problem with a defensive player like Farley most OC will run at him or make sure Murray does a lot of rollouts. We’ve said all along UGA needs a better person that evaluates talent because we are missing out on a lot of good instate talent. In the off season we not only need a OC but the entire offensive staff needs to questioned and so does the Recruiting Coordinator. We have not done a top job recruiting or coaching up our players over the last four years and it needs to change next year.

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Earth to MURPHY – Richt is right… you recruit guys that fit your scheme. Newton is a spread QB and not a NFL type pocket passer that’s prepared to throw 35 times a game. Newton is primarily a run threat.

Lastly, it’s impossible to predict how kids are going to translate from HS to college. Some 5 stars sink like rocks when they get to college and then you have guys like Kenarius Gates who slid into last years class on the last day and is now starting as a true freshman. Who’s the genius for recruiting Gates, huh?

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The other thing I wish we would do: put Gray in motion, fake/handoff to the FB, TB is lead blocker, and pitch it to Gray for rollout run/pass option. (Much the way Tech and Navy run the option). Put Green toward the flag so he can seal off against Gray’s throw. This is a no-brainer…can’t believe we haven’t used it yet.

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If UGA had heavily recruited Newton, signed him and then he gets arrested for buying a stolen laptop or gets accused of cheating, you all would be complaining that UGA only recruits thugs! So, please tell me why you are complaining that UGA didn’t recruit him?

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I still believe that the Dawgs can beat Awbarn on Saturday.

Will they? We’ll see.

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Poor, old sleepy eyes Richt. He had Cam pegged as a tight end and I am very sure that suggestion came from numb nuts Bobo. Geeeeeeeeeeeez, tight end? Cam is gonna win the Heisman as a QB !!!

When are we gonna be rid of this sleepy, dreary, slow, unimaginative UGA coaching staff?

Go Dogs.

UGA alum 1971

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What the hec????? Wanted him as a tight end??? Cant believe Richt would say that. dont you think that rodney GArner should be immediately fired for such a poor recruiting evaluation- no wonder we are nearly the cellar of the SEC- This is getting sickening letting kids like that in GA go to other schools and then beat us

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The key for Georgia on Saturday is to PUNISH Cam Newton. Ogletree should be placed on Pitbull alert and dogging Newton all game. We’re going to have to throw blitzes from every angle against the WarPlainsmen to put pressure on CM and get him to make some mistakes.

We have nothing to lose, we should rollout the kitchen sink on Saturday. Memo to Bobo get Smith the ball on offense, that kid is a speed demon. Throw it to him, hand it off to him etc. Brandon should get 7-10 touches on Saturday.

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Where is San Francisco Dawg?

I thought that whole ‘tight end’ headline would have him all over this blog!

Go Dawgs!
Sic ‘em!
Woof! Woof! Woof!

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And there is the problem with UGA. CMR can’t identify talent/position. Remember Samuel was “clearly” our best RB going into the season last year. WOW

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I think it’s appropriate to analyze recruiting from a strategic perspective, because tactically as I mentioned – it’s a crap shoot.

I think Rodney Garner is a good recruiter, but I’m seeing some chinks in his armour, particularly with our DL’s and DB’s over the last 5 years. We haven’t had a dominating line in more than 5 years. Our DB’s have been a weakness for a number of years and we are almost finished with the 2010 season and we’re still trying to find the best combination of DB’s. I think Richt is going to have to look at our recruiting from a strategic perspective and ask some tough questions. Personally, I think we are lacking a few David Pollack type players on D. When Rambo admits publicly that this defensive unit is mentally weak that should sound the alarm bells!

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Georgia’s offense scares me right now. AJ Green Durham and Charles are all pretty good receivers. Luckily Georgia’s defense isn’t fast enough to stop our running game.

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Dawg73 -

Huh, can you say clueless? I know you could.

Let’s say Richt signs Cam and then lets play out his first year at Florida. Newton gets caught stealing and has 13 driving violations. How long do we actually have Cam Newton? Less than one year, because he’d be kicked off the team.

Auburn rolled the dice on Newton and they now have a double edge sword. On one side they have a Heisman candidate and on the other they have the NCAA looking up their shorts. There’s a likely possibility Cam may be permanently suspended if the investigations don’t go his way.

One more point twinkle toes. We had Matt Stafford at the time we were looking at Newton, so Richt and company weren’t actively seeking a potential QB controversy.

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Someone on Georgia’s o-line needs to knock the crap out of Fairley. He is the dirtiest player I’ve seen this year and makes a habit of slamming quarterbacks into the ground. If he was in the NFL, he would have been suspended or fined already. They won’t do it to him though because it would hurt Auburn’s title chances.

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GO DAWGS!! Please beat Auburn and ruin their undefeated season!!

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With his 13 traffic violations, he actually fits in well with what Georgia does.

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DawgByte, thats right you also had the great Joe Cox and fair catch Logan Gray.

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Everyone calm down now, It”s just another game. Don”t get caught up in the “FIG” Newton thing. We will show up and I am sure we will surprise a lot of people. If you don”t believe me just ask A.J. Green. Go DAWGS.

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FEAR THE THUMB!

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Caleb King+ Washup Ealey == 2 thugs.

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Dawgs73, lets not forget the outstanding High Schooler, Christian LeMay whose daddy is also a preacher.

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I don’t see any problem with UGA projecting Newton as a TE. We run a pro set offense which is not suited to Newton’s incredible abilities. He may have fit our offensive scheme about as well as Brantley has fit UF’s offensive scheme.

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Richt knows best! If he thinks he would have been a great TE, he probably ought to be a TE. Clearly Florida has proven they can’t evaluate players! I think CMR has earned the benefit of the doubt, he has to recruit players of high character under one of the toughest admission requirements, on a tiny salary, in a state with no credible D1 players and he has been able to put together back to back 7-5 & 6-6 seasons. Imagine if he was at a school like Florida where all they care about is winning and would give him and his assistants big contracts and let them act like fools. Think how good his record would be then!

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Mathews Dawg,

You are right we have a system-Please tell me of you satisfaction with our system this year.I think Murray has done well,but our system is lacking.I for one am tired of the Dawgs getting beat.Our system is failing us.

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Jigsaw
November 9th, 2010
3:07 pm

Resorting to throwing out the “thug” word? My definition of thug would be the four who stomped the boy to death over the weekend.

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It’s pretty clear that overall Mark Richt and his coaching staff are good to great recruiters, but are weak at player development. More to this point, there are only a few college coaching positions/states that you can basically say, “just recruit within your state” and you should reasonably have a top ten to top five recruiting class every year (Georgia being on of those states/coaching posisitions). The other programs/states that traditionally produce high level recruits year in and year out are Texas, California, & Florida. Also, If you look at it objectively, UGA has only GT (in state to contend with) and should be able to attract most top tier talent.

If we could only combine Richt’s recruiting with the very best coaching, then I can reasonably say that we would/should be in the hunt every few years. If replacing Martinez was not enough, then do you continue cleaning house and get rid of Bobo (while bringing in the very best OC you can find) or is it time for wholesale changes?

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Dawgs need to load up the box & commit to stopping the run first & force (s)Cam to throw the ball. As for UGA recruiting (s)Cam, they already had (future #1 NFL draft pick) Stafford on board. In terms of (pocket) passing, (s)Cam can’t hold Stafford’s jock (despite all (s)Cam’s hype).

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Dawgs73
November 9th, 2010
3:15 pm

I don’t think our new AD will want to make wholesale changes, but Richt may have to purge the offensive coaches (or offensive coaches ) the same way he did the D last year.

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Murphy, you can’t pin down a blind supporter to answer any question. Same lame response every time. Richt is our guy. We were in Destin the week of the USC game. I went to Beef O’bradys to catch the game. Just so happened the “NW Florida Bulldawg Club” was gathered there to watch the game, if any of you are out there. Their actual lack of interest in the game shocked me. Most were there for a social gathering. I tried talking football with a couple of them but as soon as I brought up anything critical they bolted. I will debate any blind homer here on the state of this program and why it’s where it is.

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Dawg73 -

Your quote:

“More to this point, there are only a few college coaching positions/states that you can basically say, “just recruit within your state” and you should reasonably have a top ten to top five recruiting class every year (Georgia being on of those states/coaching posisitions).”

The problem with that statement is not that we aren’t recruiting Top 10 classes on average – we are. The problem is UGA is going up against programs like Florida, Alabama and LSU that are consistently getting BETTER classes than ours, therefore it’s seems illogical to expect to consistently beat those teams when you don’t have as many 4 & 5 star players.

The question you have to ask is whether you’re willing to continue to support Rodney Garner as your Recruiting Manager. In his entire tenure at Georgia he’s never recruited a class that was ranked #1 in the SEC. Fact!

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Cam’s Dirty! The Auburn fans don’t want to face it.

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Mobile,

You considering me a BLIND HOMER?

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Gotta love that scouting!!! A Heisman candidate QB (most likely will win) was being scouted as a TE by UGA!!!! Great job fellas!!!!!

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No Murphy, I was pointing out the fact that when “you” or anyone else, try to debate a “blind homer” with facts and logic they don’t comprehend because they have “logic” or “fact” filter installed on their comprehension device.

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Big Mouths -

So what’s your proposal? Fire Mark Richt? If it is I don’t want to waste my time debating you, because every educated college football pundit/analyst thinks Richt should get one/two more years to right the ship.

Until, someone can guarantee that a “better” proven coach is willing to come to Georgia then I will support Mark Richt. The more appropriate solution is to make tweaks to the existing staff. All is not well in Athens and everyone sees that, however the most intelligent observers realize that making wholesale changes gaurantees NOTHING. There’s so much involved in this game, including LUCK that expecting National Championships year-in-and-year-out is FOOLISH. Look at those toothless Bama fans who were on this board earlier this year telling us they would roll on to National Championships for the next ten years. Oh my, look at what just happened. LOL.

Change for change sake is idiotic. See last Tues. for further evidence of how well change worked out for the libtards.

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Dawgbyte,

OK-I will be calm and debate you thinking with you.Here goes my complaint:

This era Richt is in reminds a little of the Goff era.We recruit top talent but for some reason they never reach the expectation level the coaches sought by signing them. Example-In business if a manager hires an employee and ultimately the manager ends up firing them because they didnt perform,who’s is at fault ? The manager! They hired them.It is the managers responsibilty to show them how to improve and reach their highest level. Richt is our teams manager so to speak.In your eyes where does the blame lie?

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John,

Thank you! Finally someone other than myself and Mobile Dawg gets it today!

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MountainDawg ….what did Stafford win while at Georgia? How many national titles? SEC championships? SEC East championships? NONE

IF you’re going to brag on someone, brag on someone that actually did something for UGA, yeah he had a strong arm, but what did it get UGA? Nothing! Cam Newton is undefeated and Auburn has a shot at the National title, something Stafford never got Georgia. Which would you rather have at Georgia, a National Title or a Peach Bowl invitation?

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JUST TRYING TO MAKE FUN OF COACH RICHT AGAIN WITH THE TIGHT END COMMENT. YALL FIND SOMETHING ELSE. THIS IS GETTING REAL OLD FAST.

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Do we need any more reasons to fire CMR? I don’t!

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I’m afraid I will be in my deer stand by 5 Saturday. AU is going to take 4 years of frustrations out on us….I don’t blame them, I wish we could do it to UF.

Oh by the way did anyone hear CMR was going to Miami if they fire Randy Shannon?

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DawgByte: You mention that We need “tweeks” to the staff, well CMR doesn’t think so, if he did he would do it. He only does it when he is afraid of losing his job. That is half of the problem. CMR does not know what to do and has publically admitted as much.

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Will,

The only place I have heard this is on these blogs today.He would take a serious pay cut to go to Miami.Private school that doesnt have the funds to pay high price coaches.Thats the main reason Shannon got the job.

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Just like I thought. No one wants to come out and play this afternoon.

Just keep this in mind Dawg Nation, we share a common bond. Our love for the Dawgs. We will all be united again at some point down the road. Hopefully sooner than later. If CMR survives this, turns things around, hires a top notch staff, I will eat a little crow, and be one proud Dawg. Can all you “homers” say the same if he doesn’t?

Go Dawgs….Have a great afternoon folks….MD

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TC….Do you know Coach Richt? I didn’t think so, so how do you know he is afraid? Have you even ever spoken a word to the man? Did you call him on his radio show? Did you go by practice and talk to him? Of course you didn’t. So, don’t act like you know what he is thinking about his job! Now, if you have spoken to him and he said that please quote him and you could be hired at AJC or some other media outlet.

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OK, using the Stafford example, why didn’t Danny Wuerffel do any better at the pro level? How about Tommy Frazier?, Look at Matt Leinart? Matt can’t BUY his way on to a team these days. I guess it was just coaching, huh? Peyton manning never played for a Natl. championship. Neither did Eli, Matt Ryan, Rothlisberger or the QB from the Ravens. I guess that was just the coaching, huh? You people are just squealing, complaining little girls because someone else is going out with the boy you like.

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Mathews Dawg,

You are correct we all have our opinions.Recruiting is a crap shoot and you could be a hero or a zero with each player.As far as a blind homer-I dont use that staement but I can see the point in it.I think we can all agree on this: We all want whats best for out football program and we all want to see an improvement over what is on the field in 2010. If Richt is the man then fine,but if he is he must change his outlook and systems so our team can move forward and compete for SEC titles and on the National stage.

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Did Cam Newton come out of high school the same year as Stafford?

If so, I’d have chosen Stafford too.

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CMR this is the same man that redshirted Knowshon? Recruited Joe Cox and Logan Gray for QB, but Cam Newton is a TE? The sooner you fire this idiot the better Georgia will be.

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Dave,

The point is all those q.b’s you named were successfull in college-more so than Stafford.Thats my argument.

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Richt’s problem as been his staff…..I always admired Tubberville for looking to improve his team by upgrading his staff. Sometimes it worked, and sometimes it didn’t. Some people thought he was jerk for firing Assistants, but at the end of the day, it was HIS butt on the line.

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John…if we’re using hindsight for this arguement. If Cam Newton leads Auburn to a National Title, I would take Cam over Stafford. Stafford did nothing at UGA, no east title, no sec title, no national title, what good was Stafford? If Georgia can’t win a National Title with the pro-set, they shouldn’t they switch to a spread? Why keep doing the same thing expecting different results?

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Spoke to soon. Matthews Dawg, I admire your stepping up. Don’t take the “blind homer” and “kool aid” comments to personally, same as I don’t get insulted by the loyalists remarks aimed at those of us who would like “major” change.

Where we disagree is IMO, most of the “homers” are thinking with their hearts and not their heads. Seems like you’re describing the herd mentality. I’m going to follow the Leader no matter where he takes us. In today’s society, that’s an unhealthy line of thought. We can put that in many perspectives, from peer pressure to politics to UGA football. We will go out of our way to support the weak today. Just remember the law of the land, since the beginning of time, the smartest, strongest, and fastest are the ones that survive.

As far as making plays, everyone makes a mistake every now and then. If you look at our performance, our players “consistently” make those mistakes. And the results are consistent. These mistakes are being made by poorly coached players, i.e. lack of fundamentals, focus, and discipline. None of them are poor atheletes.

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Imagine if you were Meyer, actually had Cam Newton recruited, on your team, and somhow, let him slip away through your fingers to Auburn.

Meyer might have made the dumbest move in college football history, what a terrible judge of talent.

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If UGA had signed Newton after he got kicked out of FL, can you imagine what our AJC would have said about that? And now with this other information coming out, UGA would have been crucified. Rumor is LSU is going to sign Mett after his stint at JC. Bet AJC won’t touch that one either. My dog won’t even crap on the AJC anymore.

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cammy cam is going to school the puppies.

it is going to be oogly this weekend.

cammy cam will run all over the pups.

just think of the florida game with cam as the QB.

you folks will have no idea which way the backs will be going.

cammy cam. one and done. dude is off to the nfl.

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All you need to know about the system and evaluation techniques at UGA. They had him more as a TE. Incredible.

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JB,

OUCH! LOL

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One last thought for the day and I gotta go, my curfew has already been extended once.

The mistakes our players are making which are contributing to the losses are happening for a number of reasons. As I said in my last post, lack of fundamentals, lack of focus, lack of discipline, etc.

There is another reason these mistakes are happening in critical situations. “Culture”. This has been the norm for a while now and the thought process permeates through everything we do as players and as a team. Bad culture is like a slow growing cancer, the longer it goes on, the harder it will be to change. That’s what scares me most.

Thankfully I’m self employed, and fit this in with the administrative tasks that come with the territory. I don’t live to blog and be critical of the CMR regime. I blog with you all because I enjoy it and I usually learn something here. Some days I spend to much of my work day here but communicating with the knowledgeable crowd is a pleasure, even when we disagree….

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John -

You may be overreacting just a tad. Matt Stafford was the number one draft pick in the NFL. He won 10 games in his final season with Georgia. God only knows how many we would have won had Stafford and Moreno stayed on. Let’s see where Cam goes. For that matter lets see if Cam can stay out of jail.

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JB…Stafford couldn’t do it when it counted. Against Alabama and Florida, UGA couldn’t score in the 1 & 2nd quarters, defense got tired and UGA was blown out. Against 2nd tier teams UGA scored 30 and 40 points, against the elite they choke. Why do you think Billy Bennett left Georgia the highest scorer in the NCAA? Why do you think CMR recruits good kickers? Because they are a major part of his “Pro-set” offense, it’s hard to score in the red-zone with Pro-style QB in the fast SEC. Georgia needs good kickers to score.

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Matthews Dawg, you make some great points and the great Nick Saban even had his team blow it twice this year. The two Alabama losses compare very much to Georgia’s five losses. If a couple more would have slipped the other way, the Bama lunatic fringe would be crying for Saban’s job!! This is what we have to deal with the age of the internet. The days of the Bear Bryants, Joe Paternos and Vince Dooleys are almost extinct due to the constant barage by each team’s unrealistic fan base, that is, the lunatic fringe part that is most vocal on the blogs and callin shows. My prayer is that Coach Mark Richt can weather this storm like Bryant, Paterno, Osborne, and Dooley did theirs. Remember, every coach on the planet has gone through his storm, including even Bear Bryant.

Go Dawgs!!

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Whether it is by one point or twenty points, a win is a win and a loss is a loss. Would I like to see us win by 30 points every game. Sure, but that is unrealistic. The key is win baby. If you want a championship, recruit a championship player like Tebow, Shockley, Pollack, Greene, Thomas Davis, Herschel Walker, and Bo Jackson. Players are the key. Richt has recruited them before and I believe he will again – Murray/LeMay and Ealey/Crowell will leave with a championship in my opinion before they graduate, provided the defense continues to improve under Grantham’s leadership, which I think will happen based on what I’ve seen this year.

Go Dawgs!

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MontyP, if you will review the tapes you will find that you have inaccurately assessed the situation. Chad Gloer along with several others continue to cover on kickoffs. It’s the coaching and the newcomers like the Ogletree twins that are making the difference, not the benching of players like Gloer (#47) who by the way is one of the leading tacklers on the special teams units.

Go Dawgs!

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DawgNation,
Anybody want to review the VHS tape of the 1981 Sugar Bowl?
We can accurately review the win over the Fighting Irish.
I wish I were Irish. They drink a lot.
Heck, I drink a lot.
Man, I remember when the twins came over to our trailer. They really made a difference.

Go Dawgs!
Sic ‘em!
Woof! Woof! Woof!

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I think Richt is hoping he insults Newton. Richt much rather Newton show Georgia he is a quarterback that knows how to pass than run all over them like a fast tight end. Auburn doesn’t have the receivers for a SEC power, they have a great running attack, average receivers.

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Random thoughts….

player projections can be tricky…Charlie Ward got his 1st pt at FSU as the punter..I wonder what happens if Bama loses to MSU and AUB?Does anybody have faith that SC will beat FLA?What if we beat Aub…will Richt get the praise for getting things under control?The offensive schemes are getting the upper hand these days in the college game.What’s the next great defensive innovation?
If Boise and TCU played would we get a split NC if we have a 1loss team from a major conference?

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John…great points! The internet gives all of us who want to say something the chance to say it.
Being the blind homer that I have been called…but there are some great points being made by everyone. Remember, it’s always easier to look back or to say “I wish our offense was this or that”. It’s the flavor of the month with college football. I want to win something terrible, but I believe that CMR is the right man. But, that being said I believe SC coach needs to be evaluated, along with our “recruiting coordinator”. CRG is the person who evaluates and “starts the ball rolling” on players. I agree that CMB could use his imagination more, but I’m not convinced he is a huge problem. But, if CMR took over the play calling that would not upset me! Let’s get after Auburn and then Tech! Go Dawgs!

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Georgia should be crucified it they had signed Newton and this came up. At Georgia Newton would have turned out the same as he was turning out at Florida. The AJC should get on Georgia more, they have a track record of sorry behavior and the AJC really hides a lot until it has to be told such as arrest, car wreaks and things impossible to cover up. Newton is actually getting more attention than most of the criminal element at Georgia ever did, and as I read this at least 11 Georgia players have a longer arrest record than Newton.

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Well I guess that explains (1) why Newton went to Florida and not Georgia and (2) why Auburn is
10-0 and Georgia is 5-5.

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gt,

I say the issue is not that we did or didnt recruit him.The issue myself and some other have is that our coaches were projecting him at tightend before he even hit campus.Some others are saying he wouldnt fit in our system.My biggest issue is our system-offensive system that is-very outdated if you ask me.But yes,we Dawgs cannot cast stones at Cam’s background.

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Hard to recruit a great

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John,
I was just making the point that I am a Dawg fan and a loser.
I get drunk every day and watch pirated replays of Georgia’s greatest moments.
You see, I had a chance to play for the dawgs until that felony occured.
Now, I live with my mother in her trailer.

I am completely torn on the issue of Coach Richt.
Some days, I want to put the ‘Grantham choke-hold’ on him. Yet, other days, I look up at that big, Fathead, poster of him and smile — it’s right next to my REM poster.

Please continue your thoughts on our season. I love to read.

Anybody want a beer?
Go Dawgs!
Sic ‘em!
Woof! Woof! Woof!

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Joe,

No kidding-dumba…! Funny how D.J Shockley was successfull! Oh by the way-Cam can throw pretty well also. You missed the whole day’s conversation-Go read all the comments and come back with intelligence my man.

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Just a few years ago Georgia fans were desperate for Richt to give up the play calling and hand it over to Bobo. I’ll be honest . . . even in the early years when things were good and Richt was calling the plays. . . I was never overwhelmed with the play calling . . . and have always found it baffling that Richt was considered some sort of offensive genius. Perhaps it’s the scheme . . . but it does at times seem that we are woefully behind the times in our philosophy and I’m talking imaginative play calling and not just PPG here. I sometimes wonder if CMR is too reliant on his old FSU scheme and not willing enough to tinker with and evolve it . . . if not try something completely new from time to time. Even a conservative coach as Vince Dooley recognized the value of freshening up the scheme every now and then. And he pretty much always had a special play ready for the Florida game. I don’t see that same willingness to make changes in our attack with Richt.

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yes….it would have been a wonderful story but it’s not……my- where have I heard that before. Thanks PLAYERS!!!! you need to take this one. You are the ones that got in trouble and made your teammates play with basically one hand behind their back…..who really cares what happens this week- I honestly doubt the game is in question by the 3rd qtr. If it is close- we will find a way to lose it….we have Caleb, we have ealey, we have our O-line….with that many options to lose- we always find a way!

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59, I fear the worst. I’m pretty sure they haven’t overlooked us. This scandal in the making may just motivate them to be the best they can be. Newton waters down your defense, can’t just concentrate on stopping Newton running, to many weapons for AU. He can beat you running or throwing. And they have a great corps of running backs. My question is how good will their defense be?

All that said, we play well there and have beaten a Goliath or two before.

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Tide Roll, one problem with your thesis. Because of Jan Kemp we do have to have some grade recognition. They don’t have to be 4.0, but they do have to meet minimums. So I’m sure that your god Saban didn’t recruit him either, nor did anyone else but Miss State, and Cow College U over in Auburn. There is a trail there that says, something is just not quite right here, and I guess we will find out in about 4 years. Why didn’t Miami, Ok, Texas, Ohio St. USC, there are a lot of places that didn’t go after this young man.

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Can’t disagree with you Mobile Dawg! But we can hope! I will be watching closely Fairley against Ben and Cordy . . . hopefully we can slow him down. Murray may approach this game with a bit of a chip on his shoulder after last week. If we can keep him from running for his life, he may be on the verge of playing his best game yet. I really like this kid. He has the tools to be a great one before he’s done. But I agree the odds are very much against us.

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This is a highlight of just how disconnected from reality Mark Richt and his pathetic staff have become. This guy acutally said “out loud” that he and his staff saw Cam Newton as a tight end. Has this guy started smoking weed or something. Either Richt is retarded or he is attempting to get under Newton’s skin. Tight end? Seriously? Obviously, Mark Richt can not evaluate Georgia talent. This is why many of the top players from across the state are going to other schools. In the meantime, Richt continues to sign hapless out of state QBs that can’t win.

The Richt era includes Georgia native David Greene (the 2nd winningest QB in NCAA history); Georgia native D.J. Shockley (who led our Dawgs to the SEC Championship in his only season as a starter; Texas native (and the best 8-3 QB in Georgia history, who struggled to beat Georgia Tech) Matthew Stafford; North Carolina native …I refuse to speak his name because he is the worst Georgia QB since Mike Bobo; and Florida native …I refuse to speak his name until he leads our team to a winning record.

In the meantime, Richt sees top tier Georgia QB talent as a potential TE. This guy has to go!

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59Bulldawg: Georgia could run the ball 40 times and win the SEC. For a matter of fact, if you evaluate the games over the past 5 seasons when Georgia ran the ball and remained committed to the run, Georgia practically always wins. Football is not a wheel that is constantly evolving. Alabama lined up and played smash-mouth football all the way to the national title game. Les Miles, ridiculed mercilessly in Louisiana for being too conservative and runnig too much. This supposedly innovative spread offense is nothing short of an option offense out of the shotgun. Guys just figured out that it was harder to get a job running the option. Heck, even Nebraska fired their option coach and hired a former NFL guy. Georgia would be competitive if the offense became more conservative. Seriously, look up the box scores over the past few years. When Georgia plays 1950s football and runs it right at their opponents, we win. When we get cute with the passing and over-passing we get exposed, i.e. Florida. Georgia would be sitting 7-1 (with one loss to Mississippi State) if Richt would commit to the run. He will NEVER commit to the run, which is why Georgia needs to find a new coach.

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metlenberg will start for lsu next year and they will win the sec champ.
the kis is 6′5 and 240 and a arm to throw the ball 80 yards butt “O” the kid grabs a little as— in a bar and he gets kicked off the team and he was clearly better than tampa 6′0, but capt america (aka) coach richt just could not give him a 4 game susp. please im tired of this hokiss pokiss act. give me coach donnan and fire batman (adams)and robin (richt). auburn 48 and ga 12, get that plane ticket now boy best price 2 weeks in advance, slick rick. hahahahahah

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UGAIII…ummmm, petty thief, how about Olgetree (UGA safety) who stole the scooter helmet. Are you willing to bet that no Georgia player has ever cheated on a test, or bought a term paper off the internet?

You’re such a hyprocrite!

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CMR says Cam Newton is more of a tight end, Cam Newton will throw for more than 300 yards and run for 100 yards on Georgia saturday. How’s that for talent evaluation? Mark Richt is clueless of talent!

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John, There is a bit of a price difference between a helmet and laptop. In fact, the laptop could be grand theft as opposed to petty theft on the helmet. Unless you know something specific about players cheating on exams or buying term papers, etc. then your statement has no merit. What we know about Newton is factual, not speculation.

As far as a hypocrite, not sure what you mean by that one. Let’s keep it civil.

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And you wonder why the top talent in Ga. go elsewhere.Richt can’t think out of box…. don’t mention the racist undertone of the fans!

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if im coaching ill take a kid who grabs aS Ss all the time at least you no he plays hard on the field and h ard off the field, re-recruit metlenberg, go dawgs, hahahahahahaha ps lead by example vote yes for metlenberg, hahahahahah yaaaawww thumpers

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SWAT GUY…you’re absolutely correct. I have cousins in the Atlanta schools that speak about the “network” at Georgia. The subtle undertones that when being recruited by Richt and Bobo, AA are regularly asked to switch positions. There are schools in Atlanta where a Georgia recruiter dare not go. They love the Joe Cox’s and Logan Grays but the Cam Newtons will have to change positions if they want to play at Georgia.

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… give me coach donnan and fire batman (adams) and robin (richt).”

Well said!

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UGAVII,
None of those things you posted about Cam are known facts.

He did not steal. He bought stolen property.

Where is the proof of cheating? Because someone leaked a story to Fox?

Where is your proof that he has lied about anything?

It may all tuen out to be ture or not, but we cannot say that those things are factual at this time. Unless you have some proof otherwise.

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jack as– swats guy go f—slf and please try playing with yourself instead of playing the race card , us dawg fans and the rest of the human race are truely sick of the weak as– tards that keep playing the race card every f—time they cant get there poo way!!! just go back to gaytard nation and stay off this site. ps did i say no more race card tards

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bitter OLE School Dogs-fan….The truth shall set you free. Do you ever wonder why Auburn, Alabama, and Florida takes what they want out of the Atlanta schools? Why Georgia can’t recruit anywhere but Tucker High School? There’s a reason…but I’ll let you go back and stick your head in the sand and pretend it’s not happening.

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John I’m not a CMR fan. The guy has many faults as a coach . . . including inability to correctly assess talent. But I don’t think anyone can legitimately say the man is a racist. That’s just pure BS!

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John, glad you are a season ticket holder.

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Good luck Cam, just not this Saturday! No doubt he is a winner and leader, and I wish him the best… watching him a few times on TV, I have been utterly amazed at his athletic abilities. I really enjoying watching an incredible athelete play…even it if it is against my Dogs. I just hope we can contain him enough for us to out score them with our passing game.

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59bulldawg….who said CMR was a racist? I don’t think he’s a racist, I believe he has misguided views on who’s the best candidate for the valuted “Pro-style” offenses he and Bozo runs at Georgia.

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Georgia can’t recruit in the Atlanta Schools, but look at the players on Auburn, Alabama, and Florida roster from Atlanta. Auburn has almost more from Georgia than UGA has from Georgia. What do you experts assume to be the problem? I know what my associates in football programs in Atlanta schools say, but I would like to hear what you think. This should be interesting….

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Well forgive me if I’m wrong but the following indicates an accusation of racial bias in my book.

“I have cousins in the Atlanta schools that speak about the “network” at Georgia. The subtle undertones that when being recruited by Richt and Bobo, AA are regularly asked to switch positions. There are schools in Atlanta where a Georgia recruiter dare not go. They love the Joe Cox’s and Logan Grays but the Cam Newtons will have to change positions if they want to play at Georgia.”

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59bulldawg…call it what you like 59bulldawg, but there are numerous occasions where AA has been told to switch positions by Georgia recruiters. One of which is Cam Newton, Josh Nesbitt is another that was asked to switch to safety. Call it what you like, but when Joe Cox is your choice and the Cam Newtons and Nesbitts are starting and excelling in other universtities as QB, you call a spade a spade!

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JOhn,
No dog in the fight here, but I cannot believe that Richt is racist. He would not have went to the U or coached at FSU if he was. I don’t think any coach would survive that racist mindest these days when most teams’ players are at least 60% African American.

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god help me if i here any more pitty potty bull sh— from john or 59bulldawg, the entire starting defence is all black you dumb as— ol
butt no your racist i should demand a investigation way we all dont have any white boy’s playing on “D” not evan on the d line because hay we no white boy’s cant jump or run write john !!! hell 95 % of auburn squade is black but no not good enough untill all are black and everybody gets free tickets and free food. yum yum chicken and water melon, we all no white folks dont eat chicken and well whatever my man stop whinny and get some cheese with that negitve 1960 attitude. yaaaawww, hahahahahahah

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Joe Cox was a top QB recruit coming out of college who got passed over in CMR’s rush to embrace Stafford and his NFL arm. Cox was better than people want to admit and last season cannot be blamed just on him. It’s hard to develop into the QB everyone hoped he would be when he got 95% of his snaps in only his final year of eligibility. Hell the way many so-called Georgia fans have treated the guy, it’s a wonder anyone wants to play QB for us. As for what to call our evaluation of Newton and Nesbitt . . . I think you call it inability to correctly assess talent.

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UGA class….Yeah right, they’re thugs when they go to Auburn, Alabama, and Florida…what are they called when they go to Georgia? I know the subtle message you’re sending and I have no problem with it. I just try to warn my nephews and their friends, don’t go where you’re not respected. That means go to Auburn, Alabama or Florida.

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bitter “OLE” School Dogs-fan….I don’t care what color you are. It’s 2010, learn to read and write! If you can’t communicate properly what good are your opinions?

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Beast from the East…Nesbitt would have been a lot better than Joe Cox. Furthermore, what did Stafford really win at Georgia? the SEC east championship? NO The SEC championship? NO the national title? NO. I’m not a Tech fan but Nesbitt can claim a couple of ACC titles. Stafford had a strong arm, but how did he benefit UGA?

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John you won’t get an argument from me in defense of Stafford. I don’t think he was the best thing for our program . . . and he probably set it back more than he helped it.

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John,
I disagree about Nesbitt. He’s a warrior and runs GT’s offense like a pro, but he would not be successful in an offense like UGA’s, Bama’s or South Carolina. They are designed around the play-action. No one respects his ability to throw the ball. They’d stack the box and it would be 3 and out all day long.
In regards to Stafford, he had all the tools but just never could win the big game. Joe Cox was a career back-up that was “awarded” the starting job by default when Stafford left a year early.

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bitter “OLE” School Dogs-fan…blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…

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Beast from the East…I think more should have been done to develp Nesbitts passing ability. He had good passing stats in High School, and did very well last year before his favorite target left for the pros. My point being, Nesbitt has given GT more in term of trophies on the grid-iron and ACC Championships, than Stafford had with his NFL prototype arm. If you can make a arguement for recruiting Stafford, yet get nothing from him, how can you then pivot and make a arguement for not recruiting Nesbitt as a QB? If anyting, GT got more from letting Nesbitt play QB than Georgia got for letting Stafford play QB.

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I know about the Carver problem but that’s been smoothed over from what I hear. As for Atlanta, I’ve honestly not heard of any problems except that Tennessee has traditionally done better there than we have. And that we need to focus more on Atlanta for our recruits. But not getting as many as we would like and getting our share are two different things. Atlanta is a big place . . . and there are a lot of athletes there. We can’t get them all!

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Akeem Dent – Douglas HS
Ken Malcome – SWD HS
TJ Stripling – SWD HS
Branden Smith – Washington HS
Garrison Smith – Douglas HS
Kiante Tripp – Westlake

And of course you have the suburbs and exurbs thta are represented: Alpharetta, Buford, Duluth, Fayetteville, Stn Mtn. Tucker, Woodstock, Mareitta, Newnan etc.

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Talk is cheap….

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The Dawgs have a shot, but they haven’t done well with scrambling QB’s… I hope that is different when they know for a fact that Newton is a mega scrambler. If the Dawgs learned from the FL game that they can match up physically and just need to get in the right frame of mind, then they’ve got a decent shot on Saturday. Go Dawgs

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The real reason Richt didn’t get Newton is that Richt was smart enough to see the writing on the wall. Murray isn’t having these kinds of problems, and his stats have been great for a first year starter in the most athletic conference in all the land. CMR is due for a signature win.

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Wow. A tight end? We sure know how to pick out them tight ends. UGA has a ton of them and they always seem to pan out.

They also know how to pick qb’s to run the system they run. Cam Newton wouldn’t have fit in this system.

He also would’ve been kicked off the team by now. So it doesn’t really matter.

However, had he stayed at Florida, he’d have been kicked off the team… for a few weeks and then reinstated before the next big game… but only because he’s “straighted up” and followed the rules he needed to follow to be let back on the team.

He wouldn’t have lasted at UGA whether he had been brought in to play qb or tight end.

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Jaglaw,

You are probably as good a lawyer as Mark Richt is a coach. Get a life.

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Richt saw Newton as a TE and saw King as the next Herschel. Maybe the recruiting services are actually in the schools pockets or maybe Richt can’t coach a lick.

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…since Donnan’s recruits left we have had a hard time winning.

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Wow! ESPN is now reporting that Cam and his father negotiated a deal with Auburn involving money. And Cam reportedly called Miss State to apologize for changing his mind that his father said the money from Auburn “was just too much.” Where have we seen this before? Auburn paying recruits, committing major recruiting violations–the more things change the more they remain the same. All it takes if for Auburn to be down for a couple or three years and the dollars start waving. Like the A.J. Green story, you just knew there was more to the story than just a trip to Miami.

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Lets see…. UGA 4-5 and your whopping FOUR wins have come against teams that are a combined 12-33. Good luck Saturday your built Ford tough coach AKA pastor Richt is about to lose game number SIX. But dont worry you will have him ATLEAST one more year! BAHAHA TIGERS 55 PUPS 27

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Sports at Georgia tek are a joke.

10 million Georgians deserve more than 1 choice.

Provincial outmoded protectionism to provide a cartel over degrees in this state that prevent The University of this state from offering these degrees to the youth of this great State and to the students at UGA deciding on what they want to do with their lives is over.

Georgia tek, afforded this ill-begotten advantage of only they offering these degrees has failed to transform Georgia tek into a Harvard, a Stanford, a Duke. Yet, it thinks it is because we gave it this power over our youth in Georgia.

# 36 Georgia tek
# 56 The University of Georgia

Let’s see what UGA can do competing for those Federal Grants.

$ 1186 tuition less per year plus another $ 286 less in room and board, half as many attend Georgia tek than The University of Georgia. The students are much more satisfied with The University of Georgia, probably highly affected by the fact that the student body at UGA is far more diverse and more normal, and this is probably most affected by the fact that students have never felt safe on Georgia tek’s “campus” or the block outside its “campus.”

1 is vibrant and has things going on, and the other does not. 1 is more lively, exciting, alive and vital. Georgia tek has always acted so elitist as if they think they are Harvard. They are not, not at # 36, they are not.

Fall of not next year, but the year after, students begin enrolling. Those jobs are available because Georgia tek has not been getting the job done to fill them.

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Mark Richt wouldn’t recognize talent if it hit him in the head with a laptop. As long as he and his stooges are around, we can always count on 2 wins against Florida every decade. “Didn’t fit our system?” Since the CMR system isn’t too freaking successful, maybe you want to change your system.

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Goodbye Auburn Football….. hello death penalty.

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Meyer at Florida didn’t see enough talent in Cam Newton to keep hi on his team, and lost Newton. Biggest mistake Meyer has ever made was letting that big fish get away from him.

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Well. Looks like Richt screwed up again in the recruitment evaluation of Cam Newton. What a surprise. I guess Richt will find out what kind of a quarterback prospect Newton is on Saturday.

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We saw Cam as a tight end. That says it all about why GA football is where it is.

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@ RNB – that’s what I’ve been saying to myself.. Another thing UGA fans are saying is that he is a not pro style QB who can’t throw the ball 35 times, that he is a spread type QB, & GA runs a pro style offense. UGA recruits Spread type skill players!!! King is not an in btwn the tackles type runner, Ealy is not an in btwn the tackles type runner, Branden Smith would do wonders in the wildcat formation… AJ Green would dominate if the corners had to bite up on a run 1st QB.. Orson Charles is Aaron Hernandez but he always has to avoid a 280 defensive end that won’t let him get off the line of scrimmage. But hey, my opinion is like @$$ holes, everybody got 1..

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Good point Big Dawg. Well thought out. Richt has such a poor 20 yr resume’ of appraisal, recruitment, and development of college football Quarterbacks.

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[...] Mark Richt (or Mike Bobo, Rodney Garner whoever-but Richt is the head man) whiffed on not recruiting… Hindsight is 20/20.  I am also not one of those who bash Richt for not getting all the instate guys-Massaquoi, Knowshon, Stafford, Green, Ben Jones, Orson Charles, Chapas, etc…all came from out of state.  If you can go into other states and get talented players, then who cares if you pass up on Zeke.  [...]

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The latest allegations kind of makes all the nonsense in yesterday’s blogs about how Mark Richt screwed up by recruiting Newton as a TE seem rather irrelevant, now doesn’t it?

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One of the things that is maddening about CMR is his strict philosophy of recruiting to “his” system. This can work well in the NFL where you have your pick of players and they have little choice. In college however, you need to be more flexible. Instead of recruiting the best players that fit your system you need to recruit the best players and mold your system to fit their talent.

This is why a C.J. Uzomah goes to Auburn instead of UGA. He’ll play QB at Auburn but UGA was recruiting him at TE. Just tell the players you’ll let them try any position they want to play. Once signed give them a shot. If it don’t work then redshirt them and move them to the position you think they fit best. They’ll either play that position or transfer.

Having said that, I’m glad we missed on Newton. Just extra baggage we don’t need right now.

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The title of this blog pretty much explains why Georgia SUCKS so badly!

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Miami has shown this season that they are capable of anything, including losing to Georgia Tech. If that happens, will they retain Shannon?

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Delbert, I think Donna Shalayla (sic) is more concerned with the image of Miami as a University than with football.

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Jack you are right with ole Donna. Richt a Miami man with FL ties and now a solid Ga recruiting base. Smart a UGA man with a solid AL recruiting base. Shouldn’t be a hard sell for the parties involved. I know it is easier said than done. We need to think big too win big.

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The fact Coach Richt lacks the imagination and versatility to change his scout team QB to someone who could better simulate Cam Newton is just so predictable- and it also means Cam will run roughshod over a UGA defense that is not remotely prepared for him. Just sad.

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jack – You are probably right.

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He didn’t fit well as a quarterback in regards to running play action on third and long is what I heard.

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John @ 3:49PM (11/9) – Football is a team sport, thus Auburn’s success is due to (overall) team performance. The point I was making is that as a pocket passer…(s)Cam cannot hold Stafford’s jock. These scrambling QBs like (s)Cam & Pryor will NOT duplicate their (college) success in the NFL (at the QB position).

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DDPO: Terrell Davis was a starter at UGA but his career there was hampered by injuries. And it wasn’t as if Georgia did not have options. The second team player was Hines Ward, thank you!

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You pick out the ONE thing in the interview that casts UGA in a bad
light and choose to make that your headline. I had thought that you
were better than that. You’ve been hanging around Schultz too long.
Here’s a novel concept…..the HOME STATE newspaper supporting the
HOME STATE team. You guys hurt our program with sensationalistic
actions like this one.

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I am also so tired of people throwing out CMR coaching record 95-32 or something like that. Ok, now I have something for those people. How many National Chanpionships has CMR won?? Better yet, How many National Championships has the Bulldogs played with under CMR??? Well this is going to be easy, ZERO!!! But Florida and Alabama have change coaches during CMR’s prolifict 10 year run and both of those schools have a National title… So what do you think of that great record of CMR??

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Tight End?????????????? Now that is funny stuff!!!!!!! No wonder that joke of a program is in the mess it’s in!!!!!

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hey texas dawg who we going to get???? if your such an expert, tell me who should we hire over CMR??? Smart or muschamp, yeah lets hire two guys WITH NO HC EXPERIENCE. Chris peterson aint leaving bsu. hey moron fans do know what happens when a school fires a coach and brings in a new one?? the program starts all over again. i tired of moron fans thinking that firing the HC is going to fix the problem.

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