Georgia football ranks No. 2 in SEC behind Vanderbilt — in graduation rate
ATHENS – Georgia’s football team ranked second in the SEC, behind Vanderbilt, in Graduation Success Rate (GSR) statistics released today by the NCAA.
Georgia had a 68-percent graduation rate in football for the freshmen classes and transfer students of 2000 through 2003, according to the figures released today.
The NCAA releases the figures annually for rolling four-year survey periods. Georgia’s football graduation rate was up from 57 percent in last year’s figures.
In all sports, Georgia athletes posted a 77-percent graduation rate in the figures released today, up from 75 percent a year ago. UGA said this year’s figures are the Bulldogs’ highest since the GSR was implemented in 2005, with eight teams (football, men’s basketball, men’s golf, women’s cross-country/track, women’s golf, soccer, softball and women’s swimming/diving) improving from a year ago and three other teams (men’s swimming/diving, gymnastics and women’s tennis) maintaining their perfect 100-percent scores.
Georgia’s lowest score was in men’s basketball (36 percent, up from 18 percent in last year’s figures).
Georgia provided this breakdown of its results in the GSR figures released in each of the past four years:
UGA Graduation Success Rate Report
Sport 2007 2008 2009 2010
Baseball 61 62 65 63
Men’s Basketball 19 23 18 36
Men’s Cross Country/Track 45 67 69 68
Football 41 48 57 68
Men’s Golf 78 75 88 89
Men’s Swim/Dive 88 92 100 100
Men’s Tennis 83 88 82 73
Women’s Cross Country/Track 69 64 72 75
Women’s Golf 67 71 86 88
Women’s Gymnastics 93 92 100 100
Soccer 90 89 85 92
Softball 73 74 82 91
Women’s Swim/Dive 90 91 84 86
Women’s Tennis 100 100 100 100
Volleyball 91 100 92 91
Women’s Equestrian N/A N/A 91 68
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bucket
October 27th, 2010
1:06 pm
So apparently there is a direct correlation between winning and graduation rates! The more players you graduate the less you win!
Bubba
October 27th, 2010
1:09 pm
Yeah look at GT
Dawg '94
October 27th, 2010
1:12 pm
As an alum, I am proud of this. GO DAWGS!!! What about Awburnt A&M?
Tick Tock
October 27th, 2010
1:12 pm
Tech’s graduation rates, at least in football, are nothing to brag about. It’s a complete myth that recruits sign with Tech “to get a great education.” They drop/fail out at rates similar to almost every other school.
Sammy Dawg
October 27th, 2010
1:22 pm
Yes but big difference in the limited degree programs tech has to offer. Management is the lowest/easiest degree they can offfer. UGA has got some degrees I wouldn’t want my kid to consider. I mean, Recreation Management, Sociology, and other cake walk programs. I wish all our student atletes were like Alec Kessler (RIP), but this is big time football. We ought to graduate a lot more than tech.
Dawglasville
October 27th, 2010
1:25 pm
People will twist this to fit their agenda. It is good news.
bucket
October 27th, 2010
1:36 pm
Sorry for my original post. I didn’t mean to end it so soon and I definitely didn’t mean to end it with exclamation points as if I were mocking the news. Obviously, this is a good thing since they are supposed to be student athletes. Unfortunately, this is something that is neglected as long as a team is winning. No one cares if the students are graduating if you are winning championships. It’s kind of like arrests, if the team is challenging for conference and national championships arrests don’t matter (See Florida – over 30 arrests in the last 4 years). But if you are losing like UGA then the program is out of control. (See Jeff Shultz articles)
Stick With Richt, Bobo Gotta Go
October 27th, 2010
1:36 pm
@bucket
October 27th, 2010
1:06 pm
If you do a little research you’ll find that that is not true. Gym Dogs won a national title with 100% graduation rate. Equestrian team won a nation title with 92%. Women’s tennis have won a national title this decade and finish in the top 20 regularly. The men’s golf team finish well in the national rankings. Men’s swimming has 3 national titles this decade and 4 runner-up finishes for national titles. Women’s softball was in the college world series, etc. etc. etc.
Go Dawgs!!!
AJ
October 27th, 2010
1:37 pm
This is good news, but you have to know that most of these kids get so much extra help that it would be almost impossible for them to fail. the only why they fail is if they just stop going to class.
Stick With Richt, Bobo Gotta Go
October 27th, 2010
1:39 pm
So, if anything, it’s actually the opposite of what you’re saying…
Stick With Richt, Bobo Gotta Go
October 27th, 2010
1:45 pm
@AJ…
As alumnus with friends who competed for and won national titles for the University of Georgia, I can tell you that it is not easy for them. Not only are they going to classes, taking exams, writing essays, going to practice, and competing around the country, but they are also required to go to extra tutoring. (If you have a very full schedule already, those mandatory tutoring sessions feel like a burden).
You can dismiss these student athlete’s achievements if you want to, but it is unjustified to do so. They work hard.
jwr
October 27th, 2010
1:53 pm
Graduation rate is what you brag about when you aren’t playing in Atlanta the first Saturday in December.
bucket
October 27th, 2010
1:57 pm
@ Stick with Richt. As I stated earlier I cutoff my post too soon and it was poorly punctuated. However, the headline for this post by Mr. Tucker was about football; not golf, tennis, swimming, etc. It is ironic that at a time when more players are graduating from the football team, they are winning less games on the football field. I would imagine that the graduation rates for gymnastics, golf, tennis, etc. have traditionally been high. I would be interested to know what the graduation rates would be for the teams that are actually winning in college football right now.
Down South Dirty Dawg
October 27th, 2010
1:59 pm
Congrats to the athletic programs and all the coaches. Shame on ALL the media outlets for the simple fact if this was a story about a kid making a mistake and getting arrested it would be front page news or plastered all over the TV, ajc, etc.! Too much attention is directed towards the negative acts and not the positive ones. All of the writers and reporters should be more proactive especially about “positive” headlines.
Mtn Dawg
October 27th, 2010
2:01 pm
Bucket – that would be an inverse correlation.
Git yer degrees hea
October 27th, 2010
2:02 pm
Yea, we grad-je-ate in:
Running from the cops 101.
Driving w/o licenses 201.
Theft by taking 202.
Drinkin’ and drivin 330.
How to get what you want from a woman by using muscle 401.
Go Goergiaa!
bucket
October 27th, 2010
2:08 pm
@ Mtn Dawg. Thanks for the help! I obviously need it on Hump Day. I couldn’t agree more Down South…
I am still researching, but I am not sure my facetious statement has been disproven as it applies to college football. I know for sure that Vanderbilt hasn’t been playing for SEC championships or National Championships.
SSDD
October 27th, 2010
2:08 pm
Nothing but self-deluding clap-trap.
UGA, second behind Vandy? Yeh, right?
What all this BS REALLY means is that the education and degree programs at UGA have been so completely dumbed-down and devalued that UGA has invented joke majors like for the multitude of academically illiterate players they recruit every year. Dont think Vandy offers 4 semesters worth of “Developmental Studies” like good ole red-neck U does.
Majors like:
Housing
(A favorite among UGA footbal player despite alomst total financial destruction of the US Housing Market)
Recreation & Leisure Studies
(Didnt Michael Adams PERSONAL choice for B-Ball coach, Jim Herrick, suggest this major)
Fashion Merchandising
Communications
Criminal Justice
(Well, have to say, after 11 player arrestes, and 40+ arrests over the past 3 years, this major might actually be appropriate for UGA football players) Then they could simply call every player arrest and “internship.”
Parading this academic “fraud” as player “success” is truly pathetic.
But hey, its nothing we havent come to expect from UGA.
OoltewahDawg
October 27th, 2010
2:09 pm
Haters say no more about Jan Kemp. That is in the past. Over and done with. I might just save this article on my hard drive in case some fool brings her name up again.
gdawginkalamazoo
October 27th, 2010
2:12 pm
Congrats to the all of the student athletes that graduated and represented UGA.
What happened with the Women’s Equestrian team? Did they all turn pro after the NC?
Old Dawg
October 27th, 2010
2:15 pm
What’s up with the Women’s Equestrian program. Don’t they all major in horse grooming? How difficult can that be?
TechFan
October 27th, 2010
2:19 pm
Tech Basketball is pretty terrible in this department for such a wonderful school Read the quote from ESPN.
“But in men’s basketball, 12 of the teams in the final Top 25 poll produced grad rates of 50 percent or worse under NCAA calculations. Four schools scored in the 30s — California (30), Connecticut (31), Michigan and Georgia Tech (36). Villanova and Illinois each had perfect scores, 100 percent.”
wolfman
October 27th, 2010
2:20 pm
What do you want on that pizza????
wolfman
October 27th, 2010
2:21 pm
A lot of Tech basketball players don’t graduate because they turn pro.. I bet UGA wishes that they had that problem!
What?
October 27th, 2010
2:25 pm
@SSDD
Envy is ugly young man. Study hard, get good grades and you might (though doubtful with a bad attitude like yours) get into UGA.
sarfdawg
October 27th, 2010
2:25 pm
@ Mtn Dawg …it’s actually an inverse “relationship” or “association.” “Correlation” actually has a numerical value to it…but who’s counting? Sadly, I’m a statistics guy.
Point taken, and this is still great news.
Einsteindawg
October 27th, 2010
2:25 pm
Watch out M.I.T., you may be called “The UGA of the North” soon. Great job Dawgs!
sarfdawg
October 27th, 2010
2:28 pm
I am not surprised that non Georgia people are poo-pooing this news. If Georgia had finished #12 on the list or #1, there are still going to be those out there that will not think much of it.
Let’s face it: Vandy cares nothing about athletics like the other 11 schools in the SEC. They SHOULD win this “competition” every year. That said, if you think that the other 11 schools don’t have these same majors, you’re fooling yourself. Look ‘em up. I guarantee you will find comparable majors at all of them.
Mark Richt
October 27th, 2010
2:29 pm
Ha they can’t fire me now!
Buck Belue
October 27th, 2010
2:30 pm
Cant believe I am on jury duty…. Qunicy why did you have to go and get arrested. Kincaid is ruining the show cause he dont like college football
sarfdawg
October 27th, 2010
2:31 pm
@ Mark Richt: they’re not going to fire you anyway, particularly when you win this weekend.
Greg McGarity
October 27th, 2010
2:32 pm
Not so fast Mark.. Damon ain’t here no more…….
Mark Richt
October 27th, 2010
2:33 pm
God bless you @Sarfdawg.
sarfdawg
October 27th, 2010
2:35 pm
God bless you, sir. You need it worse than I do.
Mike Bobo
October 27th, 2010
2:35 pm
Coach Richt I been think about a career change.. This play calling stuff is for the birds.
SSDD
October 27th, 2010
2:38 pm
@ What?
Envy? ROTFL.
You can call it Envy if you choose.
Most people just call it: FACT.
Just look it up.
Saben
October 27th, 2010
2:44 pm
It is good the state has early release programs for the football team.
St Simons
October 27th, 2010
2:47 pm
((((((((30-24)))))))) HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!
Dawgfan
October 27th, 2010
2:57 pm
Sammy Dawg – Let me guess, another ignorant “fan” who never took a class in his life, much less at Georgia. OK fan, and don’t tell me that you graduated at UGA because you comments scream that you didn’t. So, according to your logic, UGA should just get rid of programs because they’re perceived, by you, to be cakewalk. OK junior, let explain it to you: A school like UGA is a true “University”, which implies higher learning of everything, thus “universal”, or “everything in the universe”. UGA wouldn’t be a “university” if programs were arbitrarily removed. Nowadays, more and more “colleges” are changing their names to include “University.” But, these schools just like the moniker, and don’t really exemplify what a university is. UGA does. Who’s to say that Sociology is a cakewalk? You? I recommend that you reserve your comments for topics you know something about.
jdawgs34
October 27th, 2010
2:59 pm
Well I am sure somebody will want to hand CMR up for graduating to high of a rate…just glad we beat GT….
Booger Pressley
October 27th, 2010
3:00 pm
Georgia had a 68-percent graduation rate in football. It ranked second in the SEC, behind Vanderbilt, in graduation success rate. Georgia Tech’s overall graduation success rate rose to its highest level, the football team, however, posted the lowest score among ACC schools, with a 49.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!! KEEP TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH SMARTER YOUR FOOTBALL PLAYERS ARE!!!!! MUST BE BECAUS YOU ARE PRODUCING SO MUCH NFL TALENT THAT THEY LEAVE EARLY!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Go Dogs
October 27th, 2010
3:05 pm
http://www.thegeorgiasportsreport.com
MIchael
October 27th, 2010
3:07 pm
Go Ducks!
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
3:12 pm
“What’s up with the Women’s Equestrian program. Don’t they all major in horse grooming? How difficult can that be?”
Check ‘em out on the UGA website. There are 67 members on the team, which surprised the heck out of me.
Whatever
October 27th, 2010
3:13 pm
Bucket…Check your stats about the arrests. Those 30 Florida arrests are over 6 years (still not good at 5 per year); but UGA has had 11 arrests just this year alone. Check what UGA Great Herschel Walker had to say to Mark Richt about getting his program under control. UT is even worse with the arrests.
The graduation rate is something to BARK about. It is nice to see the state of Georgia (UGA in this case) doing well compared to other states. Public education in Georgia has been taking knocks for many years. Way to go UGA!!!!!!!!!
Stick With Richt, Bobo Gotta Go
October 27th, 2010
3:14 pm
@SSDD
October 27th, 2010
2:08 pm
Semmelweis reflex
The Semmelweis reflex or “Semmelweis effect” is a metaphor for the reflex-like rejection of new knowledge because it contradicts entrenched norms, beliefs or paradigms. It refers to Ignaz Semmelweis, who discovered that childbed fever mortality rates could be reduced ten-fold if doctors would wash their hands (we would now say disinfect) with a chlorine solution. His hand-washing suggestions were rejected by his contemporaries.
There is some uncertainty regarding the origin and generally accepted use of the expression.
One source defines it as “the automatic rejection of the obvious, without thought, inspection, or experiment” and attributes the expression Semmelweis Reflex to author Robert Anton Wilson.[1]
In his book The Game of Life, Timothy Leary provided the following polemical definition of the Semmelweis reflex: “Mob behavior found among primates and larval hominids on undeveloped planets, in which a discovery of important scientific fact is punished”.[2]
The expression has found way into philosophy and religious studies as “unmitigated Humean skepticism concerning causality”.[3]
Other writers define the Semmelweis reflex as: Automatic dismissal or rejection of scientific information “without thought, inspection or experiment”. [4]
JasonDawg
October 27th, 2010
3:14 pm
The minute our players stop majoring in “Recreation & Leisure Studies” this stat will mean something.
Until then…
check Up
October 27th, 2010
3:21 pm
They must teach ebonics at UGA…..
St. Clarkston
October 27th, 2010
3:26 pm
Mgmt degree=turn on conveyor belt, turn off conveyor belt.
SSDD
October 27th, 2010
3:29 pm
I’ll say it.
Sociology…is a freakin cake walk.
So is…Housing, Leisure Studies, etc. etc.
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
3:33 pm
University of Florida Upperclassmen Lettermen
15 – Social and Behavioral Sciences
5 – Humanities and Letters
4 – Family, Youth and Community Services
3 – Sociology
3 – Political Science
2 – Anthropology
2 – Sports Management
1 – Health Science
1 – Recreation Programming
1 – Recreation and Event Management
1 – Finance
1 – Transfer, no major
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
3:36 pm
“primates and larval hominids on undeveloped planets”
Yeah, that sounds like something Timothy Leary would say.
Turn on, tune in, drop out…
The argument pro or con has to hold water, children
October 27th, 2010
3:39 pm
Yes, UGA is doing their job of educating athletes. They should and so should any school with a football or basketball program ……….. like GT. Now, GT is not achieving high academic levels with their jocks. Why?
Their players do take courses, like their liberal arts degree in History or whatever. Yes, they do have a liberal arts program ……….ask any GT student. GT “fans” deny this always and that tells me that they are not even GT grads. This Liberal Arts curriculum was added in the late 80s or early 90s for just this reason ………so that GT could sometimes get 5,500 fannies in the BS@HGF. View it on the Offical GT website.
Now, to argue that GT kids all do calculus and such, and they are all in M.E or Physics or such, simply does not hold water. IF …….IF their players really are ALSO GOOD students, then they in HS were on the “academic track” or colleg prep ANYWAY in order to be ready for college level math. They did not get DUMB when enrolled at GT. See? That supposedly is why they were admitted in the first place ……….”GT’s student athletes are all so brilliant”. Right???
No, the GT kids that are good players like that rolly poly running back Jon ( don’t play me vs UGA ) Dwyer, took the easy stuff then they blew town. THIS and only this reason is why GT has a HORRIBLE academic record for their student athletes. Two and done is their rally cry for bball players.
CPJ is in trouble …………… WHY ????? Well, um, ah, every 3.5 years GT gets a new football coach and he is almost there. WIll 6-6 in 2010 do it? WIll 6-6 in 2011 nail his coffin shut? I think so.
JB
October 27th, 2010
3:42 pm
WELL WELL WELL….. TECH last in Grad rates in ACC in football…….Pitiful…….. And Dawgs tops after Vandy…….Ought to shut a few pie holes for a while……
wolfman
October 27th, 2010
3:53 pm
Athletes are a small sub-set of the school. Everyone knows that most ACC schools (including GT) rank above ALL SEC schools (with the exception of Vandy).
JB
October 27th, 2010
3:59 pm
And hey wolfman, if Tech only taught class, humility and social skills…….They would really be something.
Dawgfan
October 27th, 2010
4:00 pm
Georgia Trek has a liberal arts sociology program, it’s called HTS.
Bulldog Ben
October 27th, 2010
4:02 pm
Graduation rates speak just as much about how easy the majors are as they do about how smart the graduates are.
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
4:06 pm
@ hold water – “Now, to argue that GT kids all do calculus and such, and they are all in M.E or Physics or such, simply does not hold water.”
GT 2010 Upperclassmen Majors:
Updated for 2010 on 9/30/2010
11 players – Management (one in masters program)
4 players – Civil Engineering
1 player- Biology (Punter)
1 player – Biotechnology
1 player – Aerospace Engineering (All-ACC Center)
2 players – Mechanical Engineering (WR)
2 players – Industrial Engineering
1 player – Computer & Electrical Engineering (PK)
1 Player – Building Construction
1 player – History, Science and Technology (starting DB/VaTech xfer)
2 players – All-ACC Academic team (2 starters, A-back and DT)
1 player – Economics and International Releations
1 player – Sociology
BS in Management math requirements
MATH 1501 CALCULUS I or MATH 1712 SURVEY OF CALCULUS
MATH 1502 CALCULUS II or MATH 1711 FINITE MATHEMATICS
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
4:09 pm
GT 2010 Majors
Undergrads – Added 10/27/2010
Emmanual Dieke, Starting DE – Biomedical Engineering
Izaan Cross, Starting DE – Management
Euclid Cummings, 2nd team DE – Management
Ray Beno, 2nd team C – Engineering
Daniel McKayhan, special teams/WR – (National Honor Society)
Julian Burnette, starting LB – Management
JB
October 27th, 2010
4:10 pm
I do know of three recruits who have bailed on Tech because of fear of Academics…….
The Nick Marshall Qb at Wilcox county was one….and Tech wanted him bad. Go Dawgs
Dooley
October 27th, 2010
4:15 pm
Must have only included the only football player that went to class
Dawg 1
October 27th, 2010
4:17 pm
And how many start?
The rallying cry used to be that “we’re smarter than you are”, since more often than not, GT lost to UGA in most sports. And they were quick to point at Graduation Rates, Average SAT’S, Etc. The gap has significantly closed (much thanks to Damon Evans by the way) – so now it moves to “our players are taking difficult courses”.
The truth is, that Georgia Tech is primarily an Engineering School. Which means a high Math aptititude, but does not mean a high aptititude that lends itself to other majors. In fact, it usually means that these same students tend to score lower. I’ll give the Tech folks that on whole, they likely have more kids taking tougher courses, but not by a large percentage. What they are starting to recognize that as each year goes by this gap continues to close; something that is clearly eating on them almost as much as losing to UGA on the field.
wolfman
October 27th, 2010
4:17 pm
JB… Is that the best that you could do?
JJacketBuzz
October 27th, 2010
4:17 pm
Everybody knows that our football players generally guilty of taking the easiest classes at Tech. The management dept is comprised of nearly half being football players. How hard can that be? Typical football players, I guess.
Rich
October 27th, 2010
4:18 pm
At either GT or UGA there is so much assistance to these students, the only way they will fail is by lack of effort.
leaving early for the nfl
October 27th, 2010
4:18 pm
who has the most underclassmen leaving for the nfl? that won’t help graduation rates.
and despite their diploma – I’m gonna have a hard time hiring a UGA grad – they all have criminal records!
Dawg 1
October 27th, 2010
4:19 pm
Tim, can you show the entire list. Arkansas and LSU usually battle it out for the bottom, just curious as to how it shook out this year.
JJacketBuzz
October 27th, 2010
4:26 pm
I was talking to an Auburn grad the other day who was an engineer, and he said that he doesn’t like to hire GT grads because they’re typically socially inept. I wish Tech would focus on recruiting more well rounded students instead of accepting only those w/ high math scores.
wolfman
October 27th, 2010
4:27 pm
Congrats to GT Center Sean Bedford — #17 on the Sporting News list of the smartest athletes!
17. Sean Bedford, C, Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
• Age: 22
• On-field accomplishments: 2009 All-ACC first team, on the preseason watch lists for the Outland and Rimington trophies.
• Major, GPA: Aerospace engineering and public policy (minor in law science and technology), 3.8
• SAT score: 1520. “I didn’t study. I took it three times. First one in seventh grade and got an 1130. The next time in 10th grade and got a 1400.”
• Off-field/intellectual interests: “I’ve always been fascinated with the space program. … I’d love to be an astronaut. At the moment, being (6-1, 281), none of them are quite as big as I am.”
• What I’m reading now: “Right now, I’m reading The Prince, by Machiavelli. After that, I’ll move on to Paradise Lost, by Milton. I try to keep it to one a week, and if I have spare time, I’ll pick it up more.”
• Nerdiest thing about me: “When I was 7 or 8 years old, I could give you the name of not only every NASA mission from the first Mercury flights to the end of the Apollo program, I could name the crew and give a brief synopsis of each mission.”
Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/feed/2010-09/smart-athletes/story/sporting-news-names-the-20-smartest-athletes-in-sports?SPSID=48773&SPID=4699&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=11600#ixzz13ap9YcNr
UGAFan
October 27th, 2010
4:28 pm
Congrats to the football team. To those who want to try to flip it to something bad or say it was a cakewalk…get a life. Regardless of what an athlete’s major is, they still have to make it through core classes just like the rest of the student body. For those of you that went to college, which I assume is very few from the posts on here, you know that takes up the majority of your freshman and sophomore year. Also, just because someone’s major is Recreation and Leisure Studies, it does not mean they are playing basketball all day long… If they did, who cares…at least they stayed committed to something to the end. It’s hard enough these days to get someone to commit to something for more than a week…
wolfman
October 27th, 2010
4:29 pm
Auburn grad calling someone socially inept? Was that before or after he spit?
SSDD
October 27th, 2010
4:29 pm
@JJacketBuzz said:
“The management dept is comprised of nearly half being football players.”
Obviously have no EFN clue what youre talking about.
Dawgammy
October 27th, 2010
4:30 pm
Hence the name Trekies
Harold
October 27th, 2010
4:31 pm
I’ve never understood how anyone – even an alumnus – could support and take pride in UGA’s football team. When you look at their history for the past forty years, how can anyone ignore Jan Kemp and the “remedial studies” scam, the Jim Harrick fiasco, the DUIs in the athletic office, the DUIs and other arrests of players, the #1 party school tag (i.e., the most drunk students), the suspensions and outright dismissals, the Fulmer Cup, and on and on?
As disgraceful and humiliating as it is, I don’t see many alums and fans demanding an end to this sordid activity. It sets UGA apart as the kind of school most people abhor, and it’s become an embarrassment to the whole state of Georgia.
Will it never end? Apparently not while Mark Richt is at UGA. Richt is perhaps the biggest hypocrite in the United States. But even with all the cheating and lawlessness that he ignores, he still can’t win the SEC.
So you’re paying him to be BCS champions, but he can’t even win his SEC division. So why do you pay him millions of dollars a year?
Just asking.
404
October 27th, 2010
4:32 pm
UGA = cake-walk or perp-walk.
Take your pick.
Martha White
October 27th, 2010
4:33 pm
I wonder if any of the books about UGA football include the perspective of someone speaking for the late Jan Kemp? The perspective that “student” athletes like Lindsay Scott were playing years without taking college level courses? That the proudest moment of the football program was earned by players who never earned a single college credit?
Dawgtards love to return to 1980, but their memories are really short when it comes to remembering an earthshaking event that happened a few years later that showed the world what a joke UGA athletes were and what a scam artist their beloved Vince Dooley was (and is). So for all those dawgtards with short memories or who think their athletes are actually taking real courses and trying to graduate, here’s the quote that broke the trial wide open and showed what a slimeball Dooley is:
O. Hale Almand Jr., a lawyer for the defense, offered a justification for the favorable treatment accorded the athletes, citing a hypothetical player. “We may not make a university student out of him,” he told the jury, “but if we can teach him to read and write, maybe he can work at the post office rather than as a garbageman when he gets through with his athletic career.”
Nothing has changed at UGA, they just do a slightly better job of keeping things quiet, but that’s hard to do when 44 of your player-thugs have been arrested, isn’t it?
UGA: WINNER OF THE FULMER CUP AND THE CESSPOOL OF THE SOUTH.
wolfman
October 27th, 2010
4:34 pm
At lease UGA is #1 in something — PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
4:34 pm
@Dawg 1 – “And how many start?”
Here are the guys on the depth chart and their majors. The web site bios have not been updated for some.
Upperclassmen lettermen:
Anthony Allen, SR, starting B-Back: bio not updated-(Louisville XFER)
Chandler Anderson, JR starting P: Biology
Anthony Barnes, SR starting LB: Management
Austin Barrick, SR starting OL: Management
Sean Bedford, SR starting center: Aerospace Engineering (1st Team All-ACC)
Scott Blair, SR starting K: Computer/Electrical Engineering
Mario Butler, SR starting CB: Management
Nick Claytor, JR, starting OL: bio not updated
Ben Anderson, SR, 2nd team NT: Management
Kevin Cone, SR, starting WR: Mechanical Engineering
Lucas Cox, SR 2nd team B-back: Management
Correy Earls, SR starting WR: Management
Zach Krish, SR 2nd team OT – Civil Engineering
Mario Edwards, SR starting DB: History, Science, and Technology (VT XFER)
Anthony Egbuniwe, SR starting DE: Management
Brad Jefferson, JR starting LB: not updated
Jason Peters, JR DE: Not updated (Academic All-State)
Roddy Jones, JR starting A-back: bio not updated (2008 & 2009 All-ACC Academic team)
Joshua Nesbitt, SR starting QB: Management
Dominique Reese, SR starting DB: Management
Logan Walls, JR starting NT: not updated (2009 All-ACC Academic team)
Robert Hall, SR* DE: Management, Civil engineering (*Spring 2010 grad)
Michael Peterson JR: bio not updated ACC Academic Honor Roll 2009-10
Malcolm Munroe JR special teams/OLB: Biotechnology
Undergrads with intended majors- Added 10/27/2010
Emmanual Dieke, Starting DE – Biomedical Engineering
Izaan Cross, Starting DE – Management
Euclid Cummings, 2nd team DE – Management
Ray Beno, 2nd team C – Engineering
Julian Burnette, starting LB – Management
Also:
Daniel McKayhan, special teams/WR – (National Honor Society)
JJacketBuzz
October 27th, 2010
4:36 pm
At Tech, I was one of the few students with a social life. Video gaming was real big back then and all everyone wanted to do was play WarCraft and Quake III. I would remind my roommates that we were in the ATL, one of the top rated cities for singles. But the payed no mind, just kept to themselves when they weren’t doing homework….
ARdawg
October 27th, 2010
4:40 pm
This is awful news for those Tech fans that like to hang out here. Just awful
Steve in Bama
October 27th, 2010
4:44 pm
I wonder how the athletes compare to the general student population?
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
4:49 pm
Steve in Bama – That’s a good question. I don’t know who would track that.
Rob
October 27th, 2010
4:49 pm
When I was at UGA in the 80s, we had a tight end fail out of the UGA remedial program, then transfer to Tech and graduate in 4 years.
realistic dog fan
October 27th, 2010
4:51 pm
Martha White and SSDD – Wake up and smell the roses!! The University of Georgia is the 3rd- yes 3rd most difficult university to enter in the SEC – Vandy, Florida, and Georgia. I would throttle you both through the net if possible; I have a daughter graduating in the pre-med program and it would take the intellect of both you imbeilic morons to pass just one of the biochemistry, physics, or microbiology classes that she has taken. I am an educator and you are way off base. It would be nice in some ways if UGA were a cake-walk, but IT IS NOT!
dawghater
October 27th, 2010
4:52 pm
Dawwg fans, learn some facts. The NCAA penalizes school where players leave the school before they graduate. At Vandy, you have players that take hard degrees and end up not staying at Vandy and go to another school to take easier degrees. This hurts Vandy’s graduation rates. At UGA you take 6 years of basket weaving and then all the UGA fans think they have a educational institution.
The SEC does not stand for Southeastern Educational Conference!
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
4:53 pm
@Jjacketbuzz -”Everybody knows that our football players generally guilty of taking the easiest classes at Tech. The management dept is comprised of nearly half being football players. How hard can that be? Typical football players, I guess.”
Just so you know:
GT Enrollment Data for Fall 2009:
Architecture 651
Computing 920
Engineering 7,902
Ivan Allen* 936
Management 1,356
Sciences 1,177
No College Declared 573
Total 13,515
*College of Liberal Arts
JJacketBuzz
October 27th, 2010
4:57 pm
It seems that all the really successful engineers out in the real world, tend to have a blue collar air about themselves, like they could go out and build their designs with their bare hands if they needed to. My fellow Tech grads tend to have this quality missing, like they couldn’t tell the difference between a wood or metal screw. I think we were taught way too much theory and not enough hands-on problem solving.
dawghater
October 27th, 2010
4:58 pm
A Dumbaxx Delbert. Graduated with an IM with honors at Tech. You know nothing about the topic you think you know so much about!
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
4:59 pm
Surprisingly, nobody asked for info on Georgia football majors. I haven’t checked the UGA web site since August, so it may not be complete.
2010 Upperclassmen Lettermen
Justin Anderson, JR RG: Housing
Clint Boling, JR LT: Mgt. Information Systems (All-SEC)
Brandon Boykin, JR CB: Pre-Journalism
Drew Butler, JR P: Pre-Journalism (1st team All-America)
Shaun Chapas, SR FB: Pre-Business
Chris Davis, SR OL: Child & Family Development
Josh Davis, SR RT: Speech Communication
Marcus Dowton, JR LB” Pre-Business
Akeem Dent, SR LB: Housing
Demarcus Dobbs, SR LB/DL: Consumer Economics
Kris Durham, SR SE: Middle School Education
Bruce Figgins, JR TE: Speech Communication
Darryl Gamble, SR LB: Housing
Glenn Cordy, JR LG: Education
Logan Gray, JR QB: Pre-Journalism
A.J. Green, JR SE: Pre-Business
Justin Houston, JR LB/DL: Housing (2nd Team All-SEC)
Ben Jones, JR C: Education (2nd Team All-SEC)
Caleb King, JR TB: Housing
Fred Munzenmaier, SR FB: Finance
Richard Samuel, JR LB: Arts and Sciences
Trinton Sturdivant, JR LT: Pre-Business
Kiante Tripp, SR LB/DL: Sport Management
Israel Troupe, JR FLK: Housing
DeAngelo Tyson, JR DT: Housing
Blair Walsh, JR K: Pre-Business/Economics (2nd Team All-SEC)
Aron White, JR TE: Pre-Business
7 – Housing
6 – Pre-Business
3 – Pre-Journalism
2 – Speech Communication
2 – Education
1 – Middle School Education
1 – Management Information Systems
1 – Child and Family Development
1 – Consumer Economics
1 – Arts and Sciences
1 – Finance
1 – Sports Management
JJacketBuzz
October 27th, 2010
5:03 pm
Delbert, I appologize. But it seems everybody I ever met in Management at Tech was a footbal player, typical football player major I guess…
Snoop Dawg
October 27th, 2010
5:06 pm
Snoop Dawg’s 1-n list:
1. Win the championship
2. Recruit and coach up quality
3. Matriculate
4. Graduate.
I don’t care if an athlete on scholarship graduates or not. I just want my team to win.
Talk about living in the past!
October 27th, 2010
5:06 pm
Those that bring up the 1980s Jan Kemp situation at Georgia, and only tell part of the story. They do not tell how UGA took their medicine, raised academic standards (even though it cost them some good athletes to other SEC/ACC schools), and while not Vanderbilt or Wake Forest, Dog athletes are certainly doing better classroom work than most of the bigtime athletic programs.
Ed
October 27th, 2010
5:07 pm
What? Everyone knows that UF is the other Vandy of the SEC. Just ask any UF alum. Or at least they are the Vandy of North-Central Florida…
Former Georgian
October 27th, 2010
5:09 pm
Winning is important. Preparing the players for life after football is more important. UGA needs to think long and hard before dumping a coach with an excellent record in both.
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October 27th, 2010
5:10 pm
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Can You Dig It
October 27th, 2010
5:14 pm
Delbert…your posts on here definitely show how you got the name Delbert….do you really think anyone gives a sh_t about what classes Tech players are taking?…Do You?…are you that mental?…Tech is school for nerds…Georgia is a school for well rounded people who don’t go around telling everyone how great they are and what degree they are majoring in and aren’t named DELBERT….What a bunch of tools you Tech people are……..Can You Dig It!
Rob
October 27th, 2010
5:15 pm
Dawghater – We’re well aware that not all athletes stay in school until they graduate. Check the NFL… we seem to have a few that left early to pursue quite a sucessfull career.
SupDawg
October 27th, 2010
5:18 pm
Yeah, Georgia Equestrian is comprised of mostly smokin’-hot chics that like to wear tight paints and leather knee-high boots, a concept that I know is hard to grasp at Tech. Oh and BTW, they don’t major in equestrian. It’s an athletic program. Yeah, that one sounded really intelligent. Keep talkin’ Trek fans, you’re sounding dumber by the minute…
Rob
October 27th, 2010
5:20 pm
JJacketBuzz – you are becoming my favorite Tech grad
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
5:28 pm
@Can You Dig It
October 27th, 2010
5:14 pm
“Delbert…your posts on here definitely show how you got the name Delbert….do you really think anyone gives a sh_t about what classes Tech players are taking?”
Yeah, a lot of folks seem to care. Most of the posts on the blog is people arguing about majors. It’s like a scab, they just keep picking at it.
Note that my original post was a listing for Florida @ 3:33 p.m. Then, people wanted clarification on Georgia Tech, so I had to post, post again, and post some more in order to suspend their disbelief.
I’ll leave it to the haters from whichever schools to post insults. Look in the mirror.
U(sic)GA = World of Pure Inebriation
October 27th, 2010
5:29 pm
News flash….
isn’t that hard to graduate when you’ve got Animal Husbandry, Deer Stand Making, Mayonnaise Sandwich Making, and Manure Shoveling for degrees at the bachelor, masters, and PhD levels
JJacketBuzz
October 27th, 2010
5:33 pm
To my fellow Tech grads: Just say “NO” to the Energy Equation.
JJacketBuzz
October 27th, 2010
5:35 pm
Consevation of Mass: Just say NOOO.
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
5:36 pm
@dawghater
October 27th, 2010
4:58 pm
“A Dumbaxx Delbert. Graduated with an IM with honors at Tech. You know nothing about the topic you think you know so much about!”
You might be confusing my posts with the quoted posts from others to whom I was responding. I am simply providing information from the schools’ web site, collated as well as I can. I certainly am not disparaging Georgia Tech in any way.
JJacketBuzz
October 27th, 2010
5:37 pm
There has to be something more in life, like an equestrian team!
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
5:37 pm
Stop quantum tunneling!
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
5:38 pm
Free radicals now!
JJacketBuzz
October 27th, 2010
5:39 pm
Conservation of Energy: Good Lord NOOO!
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
5:40 pm
I’m not sure if Werner Heisenberg was really sure.
JJacketBuzz
October 27th, 2010
5:41 pm
Sorry, the energy equation = conservation of mass = NO. However: AJ Green / Randy Moss = 1.5
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
5:44 pm
Beware of collapsing wave functions.
JJacketBuzz
October 27th, 2010
5:46 pm
Well most of the components of energy callapse to zero, you are correct sir.
Georgia fans & Grads plenty of Idiot sandwiches
October 27th, 2010
5:59 pm
All those so called UGA grads work at The Waffle House, Krystals and Zaxby’s and that’s a known fact!
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OoltewahDawg
October 27th, 2010
6:06 pm
Idiot sandwiches, I’ll have you know that my step-cousin graduated in 2002 from UGA with a degree in business. He is an insurance salesman, which is way above zaxby’s, and Krystal. So much for your “known fact”
Supervisor
October 27th, 2010
6:06 pm
Oh Tech boys, now that the facts are in on the fraud of your football players being (ha…) “student athletes” (ha…), please, have one of their academic advisors read the following to them: “A mind is a terrible thing to waste”. Perhaps you have heard this?
Lower than that FSU? Good gosh, this is simply hilarious. Then, you have some idiot on here trying to justify Tech football players are taking a harder curriculum than UGA players – AS IF THEY WOULD GRADUATE ANYWAY, HAAAAAAAA!! – IT’S FRAUD! I always knew these pious Tech alums were a joke is recent years. Sorry, the truth is out of the bottle for good.
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
6:09 pm
Supervisor – I like it this way: “The mind is a terrible thing.”
I can’t recall who said that; it might have been on one of the old Bill Cosby LP albums.
Supervisor
October 27th, 2010
6:23 pm
No, Delbert, I had it right the first time. Look, Tech is a great school academically – no question. I am just glad we have finally put this Tech football player “student athlete” fraud to bed finally.
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
6:32 pm
Supervisor – If you’re looking for fraud being perpetrated, it’s college basketball and one-and-dones. Supposedly, the NCAA is having discussions with the NBA. What, they suddenly woke up?
SE GA Resident
October 27th, 2010
6:36 pm
As the cute little girl on the Disney World commercial exclaims, “I AM SO EXCITED!” Yes, my husband, two grown children, nephew (he just graduated from Florida, but we still love him), and some other lucky person are going to the GA/FLA game. The only time I have gone was a few years ago when UGA prevailed, so I’m taking the faded top I wore in my purse, just in case it is the winning edge! You gotta love it. Go Dawgs!!!
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
6:37 pm
Supervisor – Some of these student-athletes are legit. Kris Durham, for example. He’s a Middle School Education major, and he did his practice teaching semester in the spring.
Supervisor
October 27th, 2010
6:58 pm
Delbert, I agree. My point is TECH alums and fans have gotten on these posts month after month bashing UGA athletes. Funny how the sad truth about their athletes came out – boy did it ever.
Todd
October 27th, 2010
7:05 pm
Great, now on with more important things such as turning the Ga-FL series back in the favor of the Dawgs.
No one keeps track of the reg. student body, or rather reports on it.
DickDawg
October 27th, 2010
7:34 pm
Thank goodness for women’s sports
Hit A Single
October 27th, 2010
7:38 pm
Coach at Oklahoma State has lost control. Lose great player to an agent last year and now a DUI with his star wide receiver. He should be fired!
Yellow Fuzz
October 27th, 2010
7:40 pm
Deldo D,
Compare apples to apples dude. Comparing graduation rates of courses taken at uga to Tech’s without comparing class difficulty is like comparing your Golden Coral ribeye to the one at Ruth Crriss. Get real. Glad the report made you feel better about yourself and your school though little man.
Georgia football ranks 2nd in SEC in graduation rate
October 27th, 2010
7:42 pm
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Paul Has A Small Johnson
October 27th, 2010
8:06 pm
Yellow Fuzz
Whats wrong truth hurts.
The truth about your program is that they cannot afford to have the football players take a full load at Tech, less they only have 15 eligible ball players
Thats why they send them to take the majority of their classes at Fulton County Poly Tech
Supervisor
October 27th, 2010
10:04 pm
Yellow Fuzz, no, what hurts is your “student athlete” claim is a fraud – badly exposed. You may have fewer majors but they certainly aren’t graduating anyway – fraud.
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
10:15 pm
@Yellow Fuzz
October 27th, 2010
7:40 pm
“Deldo D,
Compare apples to apples dude. Comparing graduation rates of courses taken at uga to Tech’s without comparing class difficulty is like comparing your Golden Coral ribeye to the one at Ruth Crriss. Get real. Glad the report made you feel better about yourself and your school though little man.”
Yellow Fuzz – You are hopelessly confused this time. Go back through the blog and read all of my posts. While you’re at it, read Roberson’s blog on GSRs today.
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October 27th, 2010
11:57 pm
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Juddist
October 28th, 2010
8:02 am
Football is different from any other sport. If you are good enough to go to the pros you do not have time to graduate and most non-atheletic students do not graduated in four years. If I played and I was good enough to go pro I would wait until later to graduate. Even with degrees how many graduates starting salary would be the NFL average of $200,000.00 per yr.
UGAGirlFAN
October 28th, 2010
9:03 am
My Comment has nothing to do with the article but with all of the these so called Fans naming themselves as UGA fans and then writing negative comments!!!!! So here goes….. I AM SICK OF THESE BANDWAGON FANS-EITHER YOU ARE A FAN OR NOT! THE TRUE FANS, SUCH AS I, ARE THE ONES STILL IN THE STANDS TO THE VERY END WHEN UGA IS BEHIND AND LOSING, WE ARE THE ONES SUPPORTING CMR FOR HIS FIRST EVER START OF A LOSING SEASON AND NOT CALLING OUT FOR A FIRING SQUAD AND WE ARE THE NOT THE ONES THREATENING TO SELL OUR SEASON TICKETS WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH! IF YOU HAVE SUCH NEGATIVE COMPLAINTS AND COMMENTS, PLEASE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND ROOT FOR THEM, WE DO NOT NEED YOU! IN OTHER WORDS…..IF YOU CANNOT HANG WITH THE BIG DAWG UGA VIII, THEN GET THE HECK OFF THE PORCH!!! ‘NUFF SAID…….. GOOOOOOO DAWGS AND KICK SOME GATORS ARSE!
droopydawg
October 28th, 2010
10:17 am
It may not be as good as an SEC championship, but something to be proud of nonetheless.
Judge Dawg
October 28th, 2010
10:20 am
The thing that gets over looked is the graduation rates for the general student body. My guess at many schools it is around 65%.
DIT
October 28th, 2010
11:14 am
As a UGA Alumnus this news is very encouraging. Don’t pay attention to the people on here knocking this feet. Well done football team! Now go out and beat those Gators!
Go Dawgs!!!!
SSDD
October 28th, 2010
11:45 am
I’m confident that if UGA added “Coloring with Crayons”
as a major for student-athletes, UGA would be ranked #1
ahead of Vandy in student-athlete graduation rates in.
Of course, it would only make it a much bigger joke
than it already is.
Virginia DAWG
October 28th, 2010
12:37 pm
I am really getting tired of hearing Tech fans and others slamming UGA on academics. In a recent US News and World Report college survey UGA was ranked the 18th best public university and UF was ranked 17th. It was a long way down the list before any of the other SEC schools were listed, which is not necessarily a slam on them but a vote of confidence for what is happening at UGA and UF. My daughter, who made 1350 on the SAT, had a 3.7GPA (7 point system in high school where a 92 was a B) in all AP courses and was the editor of the yearbook was denied admission to UGA but is on scholarship at South Carolina.
Jan Kemp, who actually was a high school friend of mine, happened a long time ago and the UGA of today is no where near the the same school as it was when she blew the whistle. So stop talking about it.
Also, the posted list of UGA football player’s majors listed a number pre-business, pre-journalism, etc. majors. Unlike in the past a student is not admitted to the Terry School of business as a freshman. After their sophomore year they must take an exam, which they have to make 470 out of 500, and have a sufficient GPA in applicable courses to be admitted. Bottom line – the academics at UGA are at a level in which all graduates and current students can take great pride. With time it is only going to get better. I am very proud of the graduation rates of UGA athletes and believe it is indicative of the progress being made.
ckgator
October 31st, 2010
10:03 pm
Truly a stat to be proud of.