‘Not to slam the others,’ but Colorado insists it was consensus champ over Tech in ‘90
One week after playing in a loud, lively, cowbell-clanging stadium in Starkville, Miss., Georgia expects to find another charged environment in Boulder, Colo.
In conjunction with the Georgia-Colorado game at Folsom Field on Saturday, the Buffaloes will celebrate the 20th anniversary of, as Colorado puts it, “the 1990 consensus national championship team.”
After the 1990 season, Colorado finished No. 1 in the Associated Press poll and Georgia Tech No. 1 in the United Press International poll. Both schools can rightfully claim national championships for that year.
But Colorado insists it was the “consensus” champion, explaining its position at length in a media release previewing this week’s game against, ironically, Tech’s arch-rival:
Now apparently, our use of the word “consensus” upsets a few folks around the country. It’s not to slam the others, but rather to strengthen CU’s case for that season since many point to the Fifth Down game or the clip on Raghib Ismail’s punt return in the Orange Bowl and say our title is tainted. But fact is fact; at the time nine (*) basic postseason polls were recognized as determining a unanimous or consensus national champion; Colorado topped six of those: *Associated Press, *FWAA (Football Writers Association of America), *National Football Foundation/College Football Hall of Fame (MacArthur Trophy), *USA Today-CNN, *Sporting News and *Football News; Georgia Tech won the *United Press International poll (by 1 point) and Miami, Fla., the *Sagarin and *New York Times computer ratings. In the NCAA Record book listing for 1990, it shows 19 different groups that declared a national champion; 11 voted outright for Colorado and three each for Georgia Tech and Miami; one (National Championship Foundation) split it between CU and Tech, and another (FACT, a computer ranking) voted for four, including Washington.
Got all that?
Anyway, Colorado expects to have at least 73 players from its 1990 team in attendance for two days of 20th-anniversary festivities Friday and Saturday. Bill McCartney, the Buffaloes’ head coach in ‘90, and five of his assistants will be on hand. The ‘90 team will be honored at halftime of Saturday’s game, which is expected to draw a sellout crowd.
“It looks like they’re going to be revved up,” Georgia coach Mark Richt said. “Plus they had an open date [last week] to get all fired up about it, too.”
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dawgfan
September 30th, 2010
12:05 pm
As much as I hate the nerds there’s no way CU deserved the MNC in 1990. The 5th down fiasco is legendary. The fact that they want to celebrate this mistake doesn’t speak well about their integrity. We shouldn’t overlook the difficulty or implications of this game though; it will be a mistake if we do.
dawgfan
September 30th, 2010
12:11 pm
You Can’t Argue Facts – yeah, you can’t. So please explain how the FACT that CU illegally received 5 downs in the UN game which led to an erroneous win justifies your argument. We’re looking forward to skinning you Buffs and leaving your carcasses on the prairie. Go Dawgs beat the Cheaters University (CU).
really?
September 30th, 2010
12:14 pm
You need 5 downs to win but its consensus….haha cmon UC….I hope UGA beats them now. Everyone knows that championship is tainted….didnt they also have a loss to Illinois or some other mediocre team?
C C
September 30th, 2010
12:16 pm
I’d like to see some shred of evidence that tech “opted out” of a chance to play a better bowl opponent. I’ve looked for accounts and all I’ve found was statements that Tech was contractually obligated to play Nebraska, with no opt-out. We all know about the ludicrous FIfth Down, and that Tech stomped Nebraska while Colorado was given a gift call on the Rocket’s nullified TD return to barely win their bowl game.
Would have loved to see GT play the now whining lying Buffs on that day. I can understand taking a gift when on official give it to you (twice): Everyone does that. But the revisionist history is a joke…claiming a consensus when one of the two ‘major’ polls of the time and several other selectors chose Tech. This sort of split championship is the very reason the BCS was created. That, and the almighty dollar of course.
BTW one team played both CO and GT that year: Nebraska. Their coach voted for Tech in the UPI poll.
Still@theBAR
September 30th, 2010
12:16 pm
The Dawgs are in for a tough game. Don’t let the altitude fool you. It does affect people. Just think how much money for pot and beer the dawg fans will save at that high altitude.
really?
September 30th, 2010
12:16 pm
whatever….I think it was against Missouri. But im glad to see UGA fans seeing the idiocy of the situation. I may have to pull for UGA this weekend.
Delbert D.
September 30th, 2010
12:22 pm
In 1990 the only meaningful (published weekly in your home town newspaper) were the AP poll (sports writers) and UPI (coaches). In one of the telecasts last Saturday, the one of the quizz questions was “who is the only team to have won concensus back-to-back national championships?” “Concensus” was defined as agreement by the AP (football writers and broadcasters) and UPI or CNN/USA Today* (coaches poll). The answer is Nebraska (1994-1995).
CNN/USA Today combined their separate polls in 1997 to distribute the coaches poll nationally. Previously, UPI and the National Football Foundation combined for 1991 and 1992 to present the MacArthur Bowl national champion. UPI returned to single selection in 1993. USA Today formed a coalition with the NFF to present the MacArthur Bowl National Champion in 1993-1996.
ugaclassof2004
September 30th, 2010
12:28 pm
I’m a dawg fan all the way, but Tech was the true National Champion in 1990. They has a GREAT offense with William Bell, Bobby Rodrigez, Emmit Merchant, Greg Lester, Shawn Jones, Joe Siffri. And they had legit playmakers on defense with Willie Clay, Coleman Rudolph, Marco Coleman. They would have beaten Colorado if they would have played them.
Now with that being said, the Miami Hurricanes were probably the best team in the country that year. They destroyed Texas in the Cotton Bowl but a loss to BYU knocked them out of title contention. I think that Miami team would have throttled Tech or Colorado. But that is not how the game was played back then. So out of the undefeated teams that year, I would say Tech that was the better of the two.
Fiff
September 30th, 2010
12:29 pm
@kevin,
If you were a real UGA fan you’d realize first hand that Tech has benefited from horrible calls against the Dawgs twice during the end of 90’s giving them wins. So please, spare me with the “5th down” down crap as though that was the only game changing blown call ever made. Heck, what about the horrible call against UGA leading to an LSU victory the last time they were in Athens? So give me a break.
@Cant Argue Facts
That was awesome. Great summary and you are 110% correct!!
ugaclassof2004
September 30th, 2010
12:30 pm
I’m a dawg fan all the way, but Tech was the true National Champion in 1990. They had a GREAT offense with William Bell, Bobby Rodrigez, Emmit Merchant, Greg Lester, Shawn Jones, Joe Siffri. And they had legit playmakers on defense with Willie Clay, Coleman Rudolph, Marco Coleman. They would have beaten Colorado if they would have played them.
Now with that being said, the Miami Hurricanes were probably the best team in the country that year in terms of talent. They destroyed Texas in the Cotton Bowl but a loss to BYU knocked them out of title contention. I think that Miami team would have throttled Tech or Colorado. But that was not how the game was played back then. So out of the undefeated teams that year, I would say Tech that was the better of the two.
C C
September 30th, 2010
12:35 pm
BTW the win at UVA was epic, and GT deserves a lot of credit for that. UVA had destroyed several opponents on the way to a 7-0 record, and they were a strong number 1-ranked team for 3 weeks (both major polls, an actual “consensus”)…until GT beat them at their place.
UVA did go into a tailspin after that, but a huge factor was that their QB Shawn Moore got hurt in their next game after they played GT. They had some very close losses in that stretch and their season was downgraded because of that.
Pitbull
September 30th, 2010
12:39 pm
Two points:
First: Nebraska’s starting QB (who was really good) was healthy for the Colorado game, but had been hurt and did not play in the Tech game. If he had been available I doubt Tech would have won and that was a factor in voting against Tech for the 1990 NC trophy.
Second: I hope the UGA Redcoat Band’s halftime performance includes a salute to Colorado’s 1990 National Championship Team. HAHAHAHAHAHA
Delbert D.
September 30th, 2010
12:39 pm
Oh, by the way there are no “real” NCAA champions in in history in Division Ia/FBS. The NCAA recognizes only championships won in playoffs in Division Iaa/FCS (since 1978), and Division II and II (both since 1973).
Just askin
September 30th, 2010
12:42 pm
Fiff,
Every team has been the victim and the benefactor of bad officiating, it’s the nature of the beast. But surely even you can agree that the UC 5th down call would have to be the worst in the history of the game. Undeniable impact on the final score and an impact on the national championship as well. i know of no other blown call with such a measurable impact on a single game or the entire game as a whole.
hahahahaha!!!
September 30th, 2010
12:44 pm
all the obvious Tech fans on here claiming to be “Dawg fans” are hilarious. I think “you can’t argue facts” pretty much put the debate to bed with his, well, facts. Colorado clearly earned it in 1990 while Tech didn’t. The numbers and competition speak for themselves.
Cobb jacket
September 30th, 2010
12:47 pm
Lifelong Tech fan, 45+ years and I have never denied UC their share of the 1990 title. I never felt they deserved it, due to the 5th down, but they were voted in and that’s the way these things go. Having said that, I’ve never in 20 years claimed Tech was the “consensus” nc, and for UC to now make that claim is absolutely absurd. Hope to see the dawgs kick some rocky mountain ass this weekend.
Delbert D.
September 30th, 2010
12:48 pm
List of teams beating AP # 1 ranked opponent in 1990 season:
9-8-90 BYU 28, Miami 21
10-6-90 Stanford 36, Notre Dame 31
10-13-90 Mich. St. 28, Mich. 27
11-3-90 Ga. Tech 41, Virginia 38
C C
September 30th, 2010
12:49 pm
To whoever claimed that GT played a Boise State schedule that year: They played at least 3 or 4 ranked teams, and beat the at-the-time CONSENSUS number 1 team on the road more than halfway through the season. GT was the ONLY team with no losses.
GT HAD to play their 8-game conference schedule. Of course they played UGA (won by 17 in Athens). So otherwise they had one other SEC team (beat USCe by 21 in Atlanta), and they played one cupcake (UT Chatt) and won by 35. Then they demolished Nebraska in their bowl. I’d say it’s NOT a difficult schedule, but it’s a moderate one. FAR from a Boise schedule where they end up playing 1-3 ranked teams max.
Just askin
September 30th, 2010
12:57 pm
hahahahaha!!!!,
Do the votes not count for anything? What about the fact that UC “lost” 2 games that year, and tied one. I’m sure if you wanted to crunch numbers, you could find all sorts of facts that support any argument you want to make. Fact is Tech was the only undefeated team in 1990 and they were voted a share of the nc. If you ask me, they were robbed of the consensus title, but that’s the nature of this beast. Crunch all the numbers you want, but it does not change anything, we were undefeated and we were voted a share of the nc, number crunching be damned.
C C
September 30th, 2010
12:57 pm
Well said, Cobb Jacket. I completely agree with everything you said, but it’s hard for me to agree with that last sentence. But there’s a part of me that does want CO to get shut out at home on that day, even by UGA.
Wish they could both somehow lose. Since that can’t happen I hope it’s either an 13-overtime game or a blowout…one way or the other.
Delbert D.
September 30th, 2010
1:03 pm
UGA Class of 2004 – “So out of the undefeated teams that year, I would say Tech that was the better of the two.”
Colorado wasn’t undefeated, they were 11-1-1. Georgia Tech was 10-0-1.
Delbert D.
September 30th, 2010
1:03 pm
From the Colorado web site:
“Colorado came through the fierce non-league portion of its schedule with a 3-1-1 record and prepared to defend its Big Eight crown earned the season before. The Buffs topped Missouri, 33-31, in their league opener amid controversey of the now famous “fifth down.” CU’s Charles Johnson scored the game-winning touchdown as time expired on what turned out to be fifth down. The play, created through an incredible mistake by the officiating crew, and unnoticed by Missouri game administration and virtually everyone in the stadium, tainted the CU win and hurt the Buffs image. Even though the Buffs defeated Iowa State, 28-12 the following week, Colorado had dropped back to No. 14 in the rankings though it sported a 5-1-1 record.”
Cobb jacket
September 30th, 2010
1:07 pm
C C,
Never thought I’d find any way to pull for UGA, but that whole “consensus” nonsense just rubs me the wrong way. As I said, I’ve never denied UC their share of that title, despite the 5th down, nor have I ever claimed Tech was the consensus. But for them to claim consensus now is just nonsense. As I think I stated earlier, if they really want to celebrate the right way, they should screw up the celebration and then get another shot at it. It truly would be the only appropriate way.
MIke T.
September 30th, 2010
1:07 pm
Stewert Mandel
Dingledorf,
Yes we may not have the actual mythical NC’s
but we our still in the company of USC, Ohio State
Alabama, because we our Number 11 on the all time win list.
RA
September 30th, 2010
1:08 pm
The Opt-Out Clause
http://articles.latimes.com/1990-10-04/sports/sp-2250_1_citrus-bowl
“But –and this is where it gets interesting–a national championship contingency exists. The Citrus Bowl can opt out of the agreement if it can match the No. 1-ranked team against No. 2, 3 or 4. Likewise, the ACC champion–and let’s say it’s Virginia–can opt out of the deal if its ranked no lower than fourth and can play the No. 1 team for the national title.”
Cobb jacket
September 30th, 2010
1:11 pm
C C,
In twenty years, I’ve only encountered two types of college football fans that fail to recognize Tech’s 1990 nc and the fact that they were robbed of the consensus. UGA fans that feel such a hatred for tech that they refuse to see things logically, a small minority, because most UGA fans I know feel Tech was robbed. And UC fans. Beyond these two, I’ve never met anyone who does not agree that Tech was robbed.
Irish
September 30th, 2010
1:30 pm
Not only did they get a 5th down, but, if you look at that video again you’ll see he wasn’t in on 5th down. Look at where CJ’s butt hits the ground and where the ball is when it hits. There’s no way he was in.
On the flip side, how could the entire MU defense and sideline not be going crazy after 4th down celebrating thinking they’d won. It doesn’t make sense that at least one player or coach didn’t run to the ref’s and yell when they spotted the ball again for another play.
I’ll never understand how that happened
TN-Dawg
September 30th, 2010
1:44 pm
To Fiff – you state “Heck, what about the horrible call against UGA leading to an LSU victory the last time they were in Athens?’ – Well, the CU call was the last play of the game – and, regardless of the bad call – which it was – we still HAD to stop LSU – and we didn’t – so stop whinning.
As much as I would like to say otherwise – it seems that there are a lot of dawg fans that STILL (20 years later) degrade GT winning the NC. Remember, Tech beat us 40-23 and beat Nebraska 45-21 in the bowl game. I love the rivalry b/t UGA and GT – however – it amazes me how many fellow dawg fans show total disrespect for GT. IF it weren’t for GT tieing Notre Dame in 1980 – WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN NATIONAL CHAMPS. Also – for all of you who like to gloat about UGA’s recent record against GT – remember that 6 out of the last 5 years – the game has been decided by 7 or less points. As much as I like a win over GT – we need to still respect them.
Kyle
September 30th, 2010
1:45 pm
The next year we played FSU and were kicking their butt only to lose at the last second. We lost 3 great players from the NC team and still nearly beat FSU when they in the 3rd inning of their domination. So anyone who says that team that year wasn’t good is a moron. We would have killed the cheats at colorado.
Daryl
September 30th, 2010
1:52 pm
Don’t forget Ken Swilling, brother of Pat Swilling, was also on the team.
Alan
September 30th, 2010
1:59 pm
Actually Pat was his Cousin. Here is a good article about Ken
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1140742/1/index.htm
Jacket 88
September 30th, 2010
2:01 pm
For those who like to talk about GT’s strength of schedule in 1990 – according to a NCAA football website – GT’s strength of schedule was 13th in the country (in difficulty) – Colorado was 9th (big difference, ya?) – UGA’s SOS in 1990 was 26th.
THE YEAR YOU WON THEN NC (1980) – UGA’s SOS (according to the NCAA website) was 48th – yes, that’s right, the 1980 NC’s was 48th. GT’s SOS in 1980 was 3 (3rd hardest schedule in the country) – while Notre Dame’s (talk about bad calls – there were several that went UGA’s way) was 9th in the country. Also – it’s not as UGA dominated ND – UGA scored their winning TD with 30 sec. to go in the game.
But as usual, all you doggie fans can do is denigrate another team, just to make yourselves look better.
Delbert D.
September 30th, 2010
2:05 pm
1990 season Colorado and bowl controversy
Colorado’s opponents AP ranking (at time of game) – 1990
#8 Tennessee 31-31 (Tie) 10-2
Un Stanford 21-17 Win) 5-6
Un Illinois 22-23 (Loss) 9-4
#22 Texas 29-22 (Win) 10-2
#12 Washington 20-14 (Win) 10-2
Un Missouri 33-31 (Win) 4-7
Un Kansas 41-10 Win) 3-7-1
#22 Oklahoma 32-23 (Win) 8-3
#3 Nebraska 27-12 (Win) 9-3
Un Okla. St. 41-22 (Win) 4-7
Un Kansas St. 64-3 (Win) 5-6
#5 Notre Dame 10-9 (Win) 9-3 xx Was #1 before loss to Penn St
Week 12:
“Notre Dame became the fifth number one to fall from the top spot as #18 Penn State edged the #1 Irish, 24-21. Because bowl invitations were ready to be offered, the upset smothered any chance the Orange Bowl had of determining a consensus national champion.”
Week 13:
“Perhaps bowing to public pressure due to their status as the nation’s only unbeaten Division I-A team, the AP poll moved Georgia Tech up one spot from number three to number two after their 40-23 dismantling of the outmanned Bulldogs in their annual showdown. The Yellow Jackets now had the nation’s longest current unbeaten streak at 15 games.
The Bowl Games:
“The NCAA faced yet another problem in attempting to determine the national champion without virtue of a playoff. Three of the top four teams were contractually obligated to bowl games that left no chance for a #1 vs. #2 match-up. Number one Colorado was obligated to represent the Big Eight in the Orange Bowl; second-ranked Georgia Tech was forced to represent the Atlantic Coast Conference in the Florida Citrus Bowl. Although Miami and Notre Dame, ranked third and fifth respectively, were Independents and thus bound to no bowl, both had claims to make for the national title that necessitated defeating the highest-ranked foe. The Orange Bowl invitation to Notre Dame had already been extended prior to the late season loss by the Irish to Penn State, leaving Miami to face #4 Texas in the Cotton Bowl. Although Miami had two losses, the Hurricanes would repeat as national champions if both Colorado and Georgia Tech lost while Miami won. The Hurricanes did their best, routing the Longhorns 46-3, but the early morning pounding of Nebraska by Georgia Tech closed the door on the Hurricanes chances and opened the question of whether Georgia Tech could possibly win a share if Colorado beat Notre Dame.
The wins by Miami and Georgia Tech ensured Notre Dame could not wind up as champion, but the Irish and Buffaloes fought to the finish with Colorado prevailing, 10-9, on a blocked extra point. With only 65 seconds left, it appeared Notre Dame had won when Rocket Ismail ran 91 yards with a punt return for touchdown that was called back on a clipping penalty. Deon Figures intercepted Rick Mirer’s desperation pass to clinch the national title for Colorado.”
Delbert D.
September 30th, 2010
2:06 pm
Sources above from various Wiki entries and NCAA Record Book
Cobb jacket
September 30th, 2010
2:12 pm
TN-Dawg,
Great post, thanks for the respect. Right back at you. I’ve always maintained that my contempt for UGA lies not with the program, not with its rational fans (several friends and coworkers that went to UGA, or pull for UGA). My only contempt for the program lies with the delusional, rabid hate filled fans that seem to live for the hatred of another program more than the love of their own. FYI, I dislike the Tech fans that fall into the latter category every bit as much, and there are plenty of them.
Chattanooga Falcon
September 30th, 2010
2:39 pm
Colorado got an extra down (5) to win one of their games. Tech won theirs according to the rules.
RA
September 30th, 2010
2:49 pm
TN-Dawg,
I agree with most of your post, but not your statement:
“IF it weren’t for GT tieing Notre Dame in 1980 – WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN NATIONAL CHAMPS.”
After the tie, we became #1. Without it, we would have been #1 after the Sugar Bowl.
dawgfan
September 30th, 2010
2:52 pm
Any chance that we can leave the GT-CU 1990 issue and talk about the game between the Dawgs and Buffs coming up? I mean, this IS a UGA blog, right?
Delbert D.
September 30th, 2010
3:12 pm
No “opt out” was available for Georgia Tech for the 1990 (1991 bowl) season. The Orange Bowl already had #1, the Big-12 Champion by contract. They had to play Notre Dame, to whom they made their offer while Notre Dame was ranked #1 (with CU ranked #2 at the time). Perfect match, except for ND losing to Penn State in their next-to-last game..
Delbert D.
September 30th, 2010
3:20 pm
On paper, Georgia’s O-line should overwhelm CU’s DL. Their biggest DL player is 280. When they blitz their Mike LB, he’s 6-1, 245.
Delbert D.
September 30th, 2010
3:23 pm
Georgia faces the same problem with CU’s OL:
LT 6-9 315 SR ***
LG 6-4 315 JR *
C 6-3 290 JR *
RG 6-8 310 JR ***
RT 6-4 290 FR-RS
TE 6-5 245 JR **
gtforever
September 30th, 2010
3:38 pm
What a LAME article……
I am 62 and I tried and tried to tell you
September 30th, 2010
4:00 pm
Colorado did get far more votes than GT did but GT is so deperate to claim anything like that. Fine let them. I tralved all over the USA back in those days and depending on what region of the country you were in, in 1990, that paper proclaimed the closest school as NC. I knew that Colorado and Miami and Gt and I think South Dakota and Pudue and TCU and Texas El Paso ( the name back in the day ) and Syracuse ( only in upstate NY, GT fans ) and William and Mary and Florida SW SE all calimed some part of that title.
Remember Techers, North Carolina and GT tied at 10 all in 1990 and in those days Carolina was a joke. GT was NOTundefeated either and played no body including horrifc UGA.
Aaaaaaaaaaaahahhahahah, see y’all in Athens
George
September 30th, 2010
4:39 pm
***Nesbitt for Trashman***
gtforever
September 30th, 2010
4:58 pm
62 and already senile………… Jeez, what a bunch of jibberish!
Delbert D.
September 30th, 2010
5:16 pm
@ I am 62 and.. – You seem to have the answers, but your memory is not too good (and I am older than you, so I’ll provide the sources for the real info.
The “claimants” to the “title”:
NCAA Record Book 2009
1990
Colorado: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, FACT, FB News, Football Research, FW, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NFF, Sporting News, USA/CNN
Georgia Tech: Dunkel, FACT, FB News, National Championship Foundation, Sagarin (ELO-Chess), UPI
Miami: Eck, FACT, NY Times, Sagarin
Washington: FACT
North Carolina and Georgia Tech tied at 10 all. Your assertion that UNC was “horrific” is unsubstantiated; their record in 1990 was 6-4-1, 3-3-1 in conference.
10-0-1 is “undefeated”; i.e., no losses.
Your assertion that Georgia was “horrific” – Georgia was 4-7, 2-5 in conference. They beat Alabama, Southern Miss, East Carolina and Vanderbilt. Losses – LSU, Clemson, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Florida, Auburn and Georgia Tech. Point conceded.
George
September 30th, 2010
5:59 pm
There’s nothing dumber than a University of Georgia Bulldog.
George
September 30th, 2010
6:01 pm
“I am 62 and I tried and tried to tell you” – being old and stupid is a terrible combination. However, being old, stupid and a Dawg fan, well, that’s understandable.
Clarification
September 30th, 2010
6:25 pm
I have no problem with CU winning the 5h down game. They won within the structure laid out by the officials, and it’s not their fault the refs screwed up. If the refs had been keeping proper track of the downs, Colorado wouldn’t have spiked on 4th down and would have run a play. Yes it was poor officiating, but you can’t just assume Colorado would have lost had the proper downs been kept.
That being said, CU was a far better team than GTU that year, as were other top teams such as Miami, ND, and Washington. GTU would have gotten pasted head-to-head by any of those teams, but lucked into playing an uninterested and demoralized Nebraska team(which had several players suspended IIRC) in the Citrus Bowl. CU played one of the toughest schedules in college football history and was obviously superior to Tech, which played what amounts to a mid-major schedule.
In order to understand how much of a fraud 1990 GTU was, you only need to look as far as the opening game of 1991, when GTU, returning almost all the key players from 1990, was thoroughly dominated by Penn St in the Kickoff Classic. The final margin of that game(34-22) was deceptive, as GTU got a couple of cheap garbage-time TDs after the game was out of hand.
Also of note is that Colorado experienced sustained success during that era, finishing in the final polls every year from 1989 to 1996, including being #1 going into the bowl games in 1989. They were a LEGITIMATE top team in that era. Meanwhile GTU’s 1990 ranking was their ONLY ranking in either of the final polls from 1986-1996, and appears to be more a confluence of luck and circumstances than anything else.
George
September 30th, 2010
6:46 pm
Clarification – your opinions are not based on facts. The 5th down was the last play of the game with no time left on the clock doofus. Get your facts straight. CU would definitely have lost the game without the additional down. That loss would have knocked them out of the MNC by their own admission.
Your OPINION that “GTU” (sic) “would have gotten pasted head-to-head” with other teams is purely a biased opinion on your part without any foundation in fact. Those games were never played so you can not say that CU was “obviously superior” or that any of the fictional head-to-head games that you reference would have been losses by GT (Georgia Institute of Technology, not GTU).
Then you make another stupid assertion based upon a game in the following year along with some highly opinionated assertion that Colorado was some kind of elite program between 1989 and 1996. Check the record books doofus, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Not only is Colorado NOT an elite program, they have NEVER been an elite program. So, don’t come on this blog and try to “buffalo” (pun intended) everyone that your opinion is fact. You just make yourself and your school look stupid.