Tight ends: Orson Charles reprises high school role as Murray’s target
(Third in a summer series looking at Georgia’s football team by position.)
TODAY: TIGHT ENDS
- Returning starter: Junior Aron White started 12 games last season, but sophomore Orson Charles is currently listed No. 1 on the depth chart.
- Others to watch: Junior Bruce Figgins returns after redshirting last season due to shoulder surgery and a six-game suspension, and sophomore Arthur Lynch showed in the spring that he is ready to contribute, too.
- Key losses: None.
- Key fact: Charles caught 75 passes for 1,440 yards and 21 touchdowns as a senior at Tampa’s Plant High School -– most of them from Aaron Murray, his quarterback then and now. Georgia is counting on that tandem connecting a lot this season and beyond.
- Key question: Will the offense get maximum benefit from the depth of talent at tight end, taking some of the burden off a talented but not-so-deep group of wide receivers?
- Recent developments: Not surprisingly, the Bulldogs worked a lot during the spring with two-tight-end alignments. And sometimes, as Murray described it at one point, “we’ll come out with two tight ends and [the defense] thinks we’re going to be in a two-tight formation and we split one out or split two out. It causes a lot of confusion [for the defense], just because of their athleticism.”
- Outlook: Maybe the deepest position on the team, consisting of four players with complementary skills. Charles, who has the talent to be an All-SEC player, and White, who caught two touchdown passes in the Independence Bowl victory over Texas A&M, should be big weapons as receivers. Figgins and Lynch are known more for their blocking, although Lynch -– rated the nation’s no. 2 TE prospect by Rivals.com coming out of high school in Dartmouth, Mass. — caught a memorable TD pass in the G-Day game.
- Your turn: What say you about the tight ends?
Links to previous entries in this series:
Offensive line: With 155 career starts, the strength of the team?
Wide receivers: Green’s final season and Brown’s breakout season?
Tomorrow: running backs.
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144 comments Add your comment
Thenumber34
June 16th, 2010
6:34 am
Undoubtedly the best set of TE’s in the country. Should be easy targets for Murray, and I’m one who feels that Murray is going to have an outstanding year.
Erked Russell
June 16th, 2010
6:37 am
GATA!!!
CHDawg
June 16th, 2010
6:54 am
I sure hope Bobo & Co. incorporate the shovel pass that UF perfected with Tebow and Hernandez. With this group, I would borrow every trick in everybody’s playbook to get the ball to any one of our talented TEs. Lynch sure looks like he knows what to do with the ball when he gets it, and he is probably expected to block when he is in there, thus making a shovel to him a better surprise.
Army Dawg in Iraq
June 16th, 2010
6:56 am
Great dept, hope we utilize them, especially Lynch, would hate to waste his talents as a reciever. What if they add Rome to the mix next year? Great to be a Bulldawg. By the way, its hotter than a dog here in Iraq.
Flo-Ri-Duh!
June 16th, 2010
6:58 am
Arthur Lynch is a very good receiver if they would ever throw him the ball and he is much larger than Charles who is hybrid WR and White who is tall but lean. Figgins is a great blocker who can catch over the middle. UGA is recruiting TE Rome (Valdosta, Ga.) heavily and would probably red shirt him his first year as White and Figgins will be seniors Rome’s freshman year. That would leave Charles, Lynch and Figgins for Rome to compete with his redshirt freshman year and Rome would likely be the starter his sophomore year.. Rome is ranked as either the #1 or #2 TE in the country and his father Stan Rome was one of the most recruited athletes ever to come out of Georgia – in both football and basketball.
lanier
June 16th, 2010
6:59 am
Sounds okay but can they gain yards after the catch. All recieving TE’s can catch dinks its the YAC that matters
Thenumber34
June 16th, 2010
7:00 am
Army Dawg in Iraq….you rock! Thank you for your service!
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
June 16th, 2010
7:00 am
looking forward to seeing Murray & Charles hook up again like they did in HS. I see Figgins though as the odd man out in this situation. You could start White/Charles/Lynch as your TE’s OR since our depth at WR is low, use Charles as the Flex WR/TE
Dawg
June 16th, 2010
7:02 am
Thanks Army Dawg for all you and your people do for us back home.
Hunker Down
June 16th, 2010
7:10 am
Speaking of remarkable catches by the TE, I made the voyage to Baton rouge 2 years ago with a friend sitting I might add in the LSU section of Tiger stadium far removed from my own Dawg fans and support group. Stafford and the Dawgs offense were in the shadow of their own goal line. Dawgs were clinging to a slight lead and the game was still yet to be decided. On a third down play Tiger stadium roared as the Dawgs came up to the line. And we hit the big tight end Aron White for a big gain as thier corner finally wrestled him to the ground but not before it gave the Dawgs a lot of real estate and a fresh set of downs. It was a huge turning point in the game that we would go on to win. I recall vividly jumping from my seat to cheer on my Dawgs and was told in a rather vulgar matter sit down as the natives had become restless. What better way to spend an afternoon come October.
Spike
June 16th, 2010
7:22 am
I saw Charles play in high school. The guy is a beast and an athletic freak. Throw him the damn ball!!
Paddy
June 16th, 2010
7:28 am
ARMY DAWG…..Doing your part and doing it right! We are all proud! Hope you get back in time to see the Dawgs play this fall. I don’t remember a college team ever having so much talent at TE. Any one have a comperable?
Vinny D
June 16th, 2010
7:41 am
If we somehow got Jay Rome too….WOW.
JB
June 16th, 2010
7:41 am
Best group of TE’s in the country…..split out two TE’s and AJ and then fake the pass and give to Ealey on the Draw………..WHOA.
alcoadawg
June 16th, 2010
7:49 am
Thinking ahead to the GA-FLA game, Murray and Charles will be playing against some of the same players they whipped in high school. I saw the extra spark in Ealey and King in the GT game last year.Those high school blood feuds are a great motivator, not that one is needed in that game, but it is something to look for.
turkeycaller
June 16th, 2010
7:53 am
It comes down to who is the best blocker. Looks like a solid bunch. Fresh bodies anyway if we platoon.
Pookadoprelanderschitzel
June 16th, 2010
8:13 am
These guys are great athletes and should be a real strength of the offense.
Dawg4life
June 16th, 2010
8:20 am
Let me go ahead and get it out of the way before the techies have time to post:
GT’s TE’s are the best in the world
Tech has won 76 more NC’s than UGA
We won a game once (have the ring to prove it)
UGA’s TE’s are thugs
GT has the smallest testicles in Div-I
CPJ has a bigger bra size than CMR
There, now we won’t have to worry about the nerds…
I think the TE’s, and the secondary WR’s are going to be the catalyst for UGA’s offense. With everyone expecting run, and double teaming AJ, these 2 positions are going to see a lot of action. Orson Charles can also be used in a receiver role, which makes him twice as dangerous. The offense is going to be just fine.
PS- Thanks Army Dawg for your service from a former Marine. Be safe, and don’t eat the Charms…
tight
June 16th, 2010
8:24 am
I say we do a 4 tight end set and really confuse the heck out of every one.
Spike
June 16th, 2010
8:26 am
Dwag4Life.. Could not have said it better.
Spike
June 16th, 2010
8:27 am
Sorry, spell police.. Dawg4Life.
AltamahaDawg
June 16th, 2010
8:37 am
I have been salivating over the 2 TE formation all year. How many options does that give you? AH, to see those LB looking over at each other , pointing and jesturing. “are you sam? I’m sam?”
1eyedJack
June 16th, 2010
8:51 am
Dawg4life
The closest GT can come to a tight end is the practice dummy on the scout team.
DAWG DAZ
June 16th, 2010
8:56 am
Murray will hit whoever is open, and won’t zero in on Charles just because they went to school together. I used to watch these two at some of the Nike 7 on 7 games where they mix the best players, and the vast majority were trying to get on the Murray & Charles’ team. Murray got the ball to the open guy and never forced the ball to Charles, just in case some of you are worried about Murray playing favorites.
The year before Charles played at Plant, there was another kid who went to Auburn by the name of Winter’s who caught 95 passes. Winter’s reminded me of Fred Biletnikoff the way he always seemed to get open. Although these 2 caught the majority of the passes, the other receivers, if open, were thrown the ball. Plant used the pass to move the ball in lieu of running the ball, so there were plenty of balls to go around. As a matter of fact, Murray was the leading rusher his junior season gaining almost 1,000 yds and averaging about 10 yds a carry. Not too bad for a Midget and someone who’s always hurt LOL.
By the end of the season, after Murray gets some games under his belt, I think all of the receivers, the team, and the coaches are going to see a high powered offense with a balanced attack. UGA should be moving the sticks, the D will be on the sidelines, and all the fans should be happy.
The next few years will be fun to watch.
Toms Thumb
June 16th, 2010
8:57 am
Other than having a midget QB who sucked during G-day, the humpers have a bright future.
Urban Meyer
June 16th, 2010
8:58 am
Looks good on paper! I guess they were just hiding Murrays talent and that “hypothetically” explosive combination in the G-Day game. Wouldn’t want to give away any secrets. Wait, was Murray the #1 QB after the G-Day game, I think not!
You Tube Scout
June 16th, 2010
9:04 am
Other than Murray’s great performances against D linemen who were the same height as him in High School the ONLY performance that we have seen, he looked confused, short and extremely nervous. It’s a good thing dogs have short memories, although you do still talk about “our” National Championship team.
PHIL
June 16th, 2010
9:05 am
I think its going to be difficult for people to realize the level and amount of offensive talent this team possesses because there aren’t going to be enough touches to go around for everyone.
There are at least two big league running backs, at least 6 talented WR, and 4 TE that could start most for anyone in the country. Getting the ball around to 12 players enough for them to be recognized for their talent is going to be difficult. But possibly not as difficult as it’s going to be for the defense to get the right personnel groups into position.
I am asking partially out of ignorance because I am not as familiar with teams in other conferences, but where is offensive talent at this level and this deep?? Not at AL. Not at FL. Other teams may have individuals that are more talented. But as a group, 2 deep, where is there more offensive talent than here? Can you imagine these 5-10 corners and nickels trying to cover a TE and Durham and AJ? See the Falcons from last year and you’ll learn it ain’t happening. With the schedule, some luck, fewer injuries and if the defense comes along, this could be a momentum changing year.
Toms Thumb
June 16th, 2010
9:07 am
And I have facts to back it up…..Another midget QB who sucks is Drew Brees. And I also recall David Greene having a horrible Spring game and he turned out to be horrible too.
OC_Dawg
June 16th, 2010
9:07 am
Best TE’s in the nation! I hope we add Jay Rome from Valdosta too!
Spokesman for the SEC East
June 16th, 2010
9:09 am
I know Drew Brees and Murray is no Drew Brees, he looked like he was scared $hitless at gday.
Urban's Doctor
June 16th, 2010
9:09 am
Please go take your meds so you don’t have another heart attack. And actually Murray was the starter after and before spring. Please don’t comment on here if you have no idea what you are talking about.
college is forever
June 16th, 2010
9:11 am
Army Dog, All of us in Bulldog Nation are proud of you and and are honored to have you as a UGA fan. Drink lots of water, be safe and hurry home to you loved ones. Go Dawgs!!!
Spokesman for the SEC East
June 16th, 2010
9:11 am
Urban, actually Richt was relieved that Mett stepped on his johnson because he always liked murray better, even though his play sucked. Word his that Murray rubs Richt down with suntan oil before he jumps on the tanning bed.
Urban's Doctor
June 16th, 2010
9:14 am
Spokesman for the SEC East – Did you see him two years ago in the GDAY game? He by far played the best out of all the QB’s that day. I love how all these haters are going to rate a QB on how he performed during a practice scrimagge. You idiots obvisouly never played football. LMAO!!!!!!!
Yikes!
June 16th, 2010
9:17 am
If you aren’t a fan of UGA why would you watch the GDAY game? Obsessed much?
Yikes!
June 16th, 2010
9:17 am
Spokesman for the SEC East – If you aren’t a fan of UGA why would you watch the GDAY game? Obsessed much?
SimpleDawg
June 16th, 2010
9:18 am
Athletic tight ends who can operate in space and down field create lots of problems for defenses…..see Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates. In college, they create even more confusion in coverages, as well as creating mismatches in personnel. Orson Charles should have a huge year, and so should Aron White – if he stops dropping easy passes.
A big fast tight end running up the seams of a defense is a beautiful thing if you’re an offense, but it is a nightmare for a defense.
Toms thumb is up his arse
June 16th, 2010
9:20 am
WOW tommy…….you sound just like your president with all these “facts”………I have heard the name Drew Brees though……….let’s see……oh wait, I know….didn’t he win last years Super Bowl?? And David Greene was the winningest QB in college football. Yeah, you’re right….they both suck. Geez you’re a f*cking moron. Please go back to playing war of the worlds and let the big boys have a conversation.
dawgfan
June 16th, 2010
9:21 am
We’ve got playmakers so let’s make some damn plays and do it when it counts, not just against some sissy Georgia Tech defense. I want to see BIG plays in BIG games. I’m going to give it to the haters on one thing. UGA football has been a whole lot of hype the past two years and not much meaningful production. Sometimes the haters do have a point. I’m just tired of all the talking.
After a solid two decades of being a huge college football fan I can no longer bear the summer. It is like Chinese water torture and horrible. Preseason mags are a joke. College football preview TV shows are a total joke. All this media preseason crap is just regurgitating the same tired garbage over and over again. Wake me up when the games start.
Thanks.
Jax Gator
June 16th, 2010
9:25 am
Not sure why Gator fans are on here hating on Murray and Orson. Do you not know that both of them were huge targets that we were trying to land in the recruiting battle. We did about everything we could to get those two and unfortunately they picked UGA. They are studs!
Another tight end pprospect
June 16th, 2010
9:27 am
Tech’ girl beater DE will have to be a tight end in jail, as he will need to be. AHAHAHAHAHA
Tech boys love hitting girls. UGA men love squeezing them. See tech linemen in the 90s that beat up that itty, bitty girl at the old pizza joint, then on N Avenue at I-85.
Old Dawg
June 16th, 2010
9:31 am
With the running game and tight ends, UGA should have great success with time of possession and passing game, two aspects integral in the development of a young QB. The thing that impresses me the most about Charles and White is that they can run extremely well after making catches. And it appears Lynch can as well.
Spokesman for the SEC East
June 16th, 2010
9:32 am
Yikes, when you are a loser like me you have nothing better to do then to watch a team that you do not likes spring football game.
Adonisdaking
June 16th, 2010
9:33 am
GREAT DEPTH LETS GO DAWGS!
cantondawg
June 16th, 2010
9:34 am
How can we not get excited about the UGA offense. We have the #1 line in the SEC. The #2 running back combo (Sorry guys but AL has the #1 combo) and the #1 WR combo in the SEC. We should be much improved offensively. Defensively, i see great improvements as well. With an easier schedule, We should have a chance to win every game.
cantondawg
June 16th, 2010
9:43 am
Overall, i think this offense has the ability to be better than our 2007-2008 offenses with MS and KM. It all depends on the play of AM. He has a better overall supporting cast than Stafford did. If we could have had the experience of the OL in 2008 then i think we would have won the NC.
tampabigDAWG
June 16th, 2010
9:55 am
Our offense as a whole is full of so much talent. Depth maybe slacking in some positions but we have key players in key position. I hope that CMR got his hands on Murray personaly this off season and in early fall practice. Got to admit, CMR is a good QB coach. Hope BoBo didnt mess it up too bad. If we can be less predictable we will be ok. Our offense really hasn’t been bad offer the past few years. Even with Cox throwing so many INT we still put up points. Our D will make or break us. I think a good formation for Murray would be a Single TE set with White on the line. Green to WR left, Durahm Right, Charles SE Right, Ealey beside him in the shotgun. So many options from there. Stop and goes, cross underneath, and still be able to scramble. Whatcha think guys?
dawgfan
June 16th, 2010
10:16 am
I couldn’t believe my ears when I heard about that incident with the Tech lineman in the 90’s. It was one of the more horrific things I’ve ever heard of a football player doing. The Tech lie machine did an excellent job of sweeping that one under the rug. I had never heard of it until just recently. That guy was human trash and an excellent representative of The Institute. I think he got what, a game or two suspension from Coach Ross? What a class act. Go Jackets!!!
Uh oh, a UGA football player just got a ticket for littering. Thug Life!!!
Championships
June 16th, 2010
10:28 am
When we were winning SEC titles we had excellent tight ends. This is what I think has been missing from Bobo’s gameplan for awhile (or we didn’t have the horses). Remember how much damage Pope and Watson used to do on the long playaction post routes over the middle? They would catch a 20 yard pass and rumble through the defensive backfield. Charles has this ability to be a real problem for defenses. Too big for the fast, too fast for the big.
Pi$$onaDawg
June 16th, 2010
10:31 am
DawginLex here boy her boy. DawginLex why are you not on here crying like a lil girl too?
UGA87
June 16th, 2010
10:51 am
I’m old school… the effective use of TEs opens up the entire offense. It creates passing opportunities in the middle of the field, adds additional responsibilites for the LBs/DBs, and is effective in the Red Zone. It would help Murray and the running game to have that aspect of the offense working well. Tim, I agree with you… it may be our deepest position on the team… good article.
Old school works
June 16th, 2010
11:06 am
I dig old school too. Out tight ends, fullbacks can carry a load, blocking and then, peeling off in the flats for nice gainers. This ought to be like stealing. With the runs, the intermediate stuff and this scheme, UGA ought to be fine.
If the D does play a passionate, inspired game, every game, UGA has a chance to do very well, then come 2011 shoot for the moon. Man, are we gathering up the players. I know that Coach TG will land some D side blue chips from Georgia.
Dawg fan ... up date
June 16th, 2010
11:11 am
The lil girl whuppin in the Ross era 1990s was with THREE GT linemen. I can still name them but will not as one is deceased. They punched the girl unmercifully and she needed major recon surgery on her head. Her boy friend and an off duty cop ALSO were ruined by these three punks.
Yes, the Tech folks pushed this under the rug and I know they do not like the mention of it because it was horrific. Ask any reasonable GT grad over age 45 or 50 and they will frown in shame.
Delbert D.
June 16th, 2010
11:18 am
I remember that incident, and it was and is shameful.
Luke M
June 16th, 2010
11:28 am
Orson Charles doesn’t have what it takes to get his hands on a crystal football though. Just when he gets close to one, it always seems to come crashing down
Techster
June 16th, 2010
11:42 am
As a Tech fan that incident was terrible for our University and it will always be remembered!
Luke M
June 16th, 2010
11:44 am
How funny is it that Orson broke the Gators NC trophy. It was awesome!
Contractor
June 16th, 2010
12:08 pm
Army Dawg,
Thanks so much for your services sir, and everyone else around you, no matter their school of choice. But extra thank you for yours, ha ha. Keep spreading the good word and try to stay cool over there.
PowerDawg
June 16th, 2010
12:24 pm
Any time we are in a two TE set, the defense will not know what we plan to do. Our formation can switch to a 3 WR set at the last second… or we line up OC as the FB and switch to 4 wide just before the snap.
Charles and White are so diverse in their skill sets that the combinations are really unlimited.
One thing is absolutely clear…a lot of opposing DC’s are going to look really bad this fall.
NOLABIGDAWG
June 16th, 2010
12:25 pm
Army Dawg,
God Bless you and all of your fellow soldiers. The FREEDOM to enjoy college football and all the joys we take for granted, is a testament to your selfless sacrifices. THANKYOU AND STAY SAFE!!!!
UglyOldDog
June 16th, 2010
12:30 pm
After seeing the UGA Spring game, I now understand why Richt needs TE’s more than WR….Murray’s balls looked to be rather high for the average 6′2″ WR but about right for a 6′5″ TE.
Coach D
June 16th, 2010
12:49 pm
I’ve never felt that Bobo has utilized the TE position as well as he could, especially lately. The TE’s were a big part of Jim’s Donnan’s offenses in the 90’s and they were sometimes the leading receivers in games. Richt also had some good TE’s early on with Randy McMichael, Ben Watson, and Leonard Pope( the Dawgs wouldn’t have beaten the Vols in 2001 without McMichael coming up with 2 huge catches during that drive). I wouldn’t be opposed to the Dawgs implenting a 2 TE set, especially in short yardage and goal line situations. It really gives the defense something else to think about in terms of play action as well as allowing for WR’s to get better man on man matchups down field.
gdawginkalamazoo
June 16th, 2010
12:53 pm
Add Logan Gray to this group and WOW! That is if Logan can get out of punting duty and kick off coverage, back-up QB ing, WR, DB and long snappering.
God Bless you and your fellow soldiers Army Dog. Thanks!
gdawginkalamazoo
June 16th, 2010
12:57 pm
Serioulsy, looks like we will be putting a few more TE’s into the NFL. We had a great run there for awhile.
MaconKnight
June 16th, 2010
1:02 pm
It’s Bobo’s Job to get all of the talented TE’S we have involved in the passing game.. I’m really excited about all of them Charles seems to have the best hands, best route runner of the group, Lynch has the big body a definite mismatch aganist any LB, Figgins is the best Blocker of the group.. this unit has to be more incoporated in the offense… GATA
The Sham
June 16th, 2010
1:13 pm
THIS IS BY FAR THE STRENGTH OF THE TEAM – EVEN MORE SO THAN THE O-LINE! THIS MAY BE ONE OF THE BEST UNITS IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY! EVEN BETTER THAN THE ‘CANES WHO ARE OUR ONLY RIVALS IN PRODUCING BIG TIME TE TALENT IN THE NFL… I LIKE HOW IT SHAKES OUT: HAND OFF LEFT, RIGHT, UP THE MIDDLE OR DUMP IT TO THE TE BABY! OH WAIT, IS THAT AJ OR TK ON A FLY ROUTE ONE ON ONE – CHUNK IT BABY AND SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Sham
June 16th, 2010
1:14 pm
IS IT “CHUNK” IT OR “CHUCK” IT?
BTW – WHAT DOES GATA MEAN?
Fillin' Up @ Juniors
June 16th, 2010
1:34 pm
I don’t trust anyone who writes in all Caps… In fact I detest it so much than over using exclamation marks, that I will have to pass judgement on you…your 10? am I close…
Its chuck it..
Big Jax Dawg
June 16th, 2010
2:12 pm
Man, isn’t it exciting to see things go together! — The nay-sayers and haters just take a number and look us up in November, until then, hug a nut!
Murray will deliver just like Eric Ziere did, another midget—”It’s the size of the fight in the Dawg—not the size of the dog in the fight”.
As for the ARMY DAWG, you’re the Man! Thanks for your service Dawg!
How2fish
June 16th, 2010
2:12 pm
Techster classy post it was a terrible thing and not at all a true reflection of the Tech program. Even a UGA fan like me knows that.
Mike Bobo Offense
June 16th, 2010
2:23 pm
PLAY ORSON IN THE SLOT!!!!
WonderDawg
June 16th, 2010
2:30 pm
Aaron Murray: ““we’ll come out with two tight ends and [the defense] thinks we’re going to be in a two-tight formation and we split one out or split two out. It causes a lot of confusion [for the defense]”
Since when has Bobo caused confusion for SEC defenses? He really confused LSU, UT, UF, and UK last season, huh?
BAMA RULES
June 16th, 2010
2:56 pm
Doggies lose 6 games next year:
USC
Arky
MIssy st
Florida
Auburn
Tech
Mark it down, butt cut richt is gone!!!
duhawk
June 16th, 2010
2:59 pm
feed the beast—-orson charles
harold
June 16th, 2010
2:59 pm
GEORGIA IS AVERAGE COMPARED TO ALABAMA AND FLORIDA. 4-4 LAST YEAR. RICHT IS 20-12 LAST 4 YEARS. RICHT HASN’T BEEN TO SEC TITLE GAME IN 5 YEARS. GEORGIA HAS NOT WON A NATIONAL TITLE IN 30 YEARS. IT MAY BE TIME FOR RICHT TO GO!
BAMA RULES
June 16th, 2010
3:00 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
please keep richt as long as you want him!!! We looove him in Bama and Jacksonville!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Damn Good Dawg
June 16th, 2010
3:19 pm
BAMA RULES- Richt is 2-1 vs. the pink elephants… Gotta love how tide fans come out of the closet and start trash talking after their program just made it back to relevancy (is that a word) two years ago. Before that, you guys weren’t even average. In the last 10 years, we havent even had a losing season. What about the pink elepahnts?
DawgMarriedtoHisSister
June 16th, 2010
3:35 pm
SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC!
Georgia sucks and has been irrelevant forever but…
SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC!
When was the last time Georgia won anything!?!? Oh well, us Dawg fans can continue to live in the glory of our successful conference foes… ALABAMA ARE CHAMPS!!!
SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC!
Damn Good Dawg
June 16th, 2010
3:41 pm
Harold, how can a team be 20 and 12 in 4 years if a full season is 12 games? UGA is 38-14 in 4 years. Bama is 39-15… WOW, BAMA sure is WAAAAAAAY better than UGA. And your record is not including the wins that were vacated because of “textbookgate”
Damn Good Dawg
June 16th, 2010
3:44 pm
DawgMarriedtoHisSister
Actually, Georgia won the SEC championship game in 2007, way back when bama was 7-6
DawgMarriedtoHisSister
June 16th, 2010
3:46 pm
2007… Great for a 3rd rate, bottom feeder program like Georgia.
When is the last time Georgia won a national championship??
Damn Good Dawg
June 16th, 2010
3:53 pm
1980..
But, we havent had a losing season in 10 years… third rate? Wow, ya’ll must have been fourth or even fifth rate in 2006 when you didn’t even have a winning record… Or in 2003 when you went 4-9, 6th or 7th rate? I bet Vandy had a better record than that BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!
destin dawg
June 16th, 2010
3:54 pm
why do these haters come on UGA blog ??? nothing else to do??? get a job or a girl friend !!!! We should chip in $$$$ to get HAROLD a dating service, like MATCH.com etc… wait….he may not want a woman ?????
Tampadawg
June 16th, 2010
4:14 pm
lynch gonna be a good one to boy. reminds me of jeremy shockey gonna run threw you instead of around you
Tampadawg
June 16th, 2010
4:17 pm
p.s. harold ur a jackass all programs fluctuate up and down
BAMA breaks the RULES
June 16th, 2010
4:23 pm
Anybody need extra textbooks? FREEEE! Penn State, Arkansas, LSU and FLorida will have our number this year. Probably Auburn too, again. Maybe even Stephanie Garcia over at SC. Dang! Glad we won it last year.
'WHAT HAS GEORGIA DONE SINCE 1980?
June 16th, 2010
4:44 pm
a classic quote from coach Paul Johnson………
"Home of Mediocrity"
June 16th, 2010
4:47 pm
Undoubtedly the best tight ends, OL, pair of RB’s fill in the blanks, it’s a Georgia sight. Just one thing, if your so darn talented how come you keep losing so many games? Doink!
"What the &%*! just happened?"
June 16th, 2010
4:47 pm
another classic quote from coach Paul Johnson………just after Ealy and King ran for a gazillion yards.
I will say it yet again
June 16th, 2010
4:51 pm
All of the UGA haters that insist that THE mark of a quality program is a NC over the last 4 or 5 years. Well, then, um, ah, that leaves out about 99% of all major universities.
UGA needs to win one for sure BUT we grads ( key word is GRAD ) love our alma mater and no matter what, we have the tailgating traditions that go on with my kids, now in their mid 20s and my old UGA pals and their kids. LIfe is quite good being an old, middle aged UGA grad. Golf, sailing and some travel to Europe ain’t bad, my friends.
UGA is the ONLY SCHOOL to win at least 8 games or more over 13 years in a row. That is remarkable, given that it does include the last couple of Jim Donnan years or with two H Coaches.
UGA is the 5th or 6th winningest team in the last 10 years and is a top $$$ school and we are in major bowls most every year. OUr stadium seats around 90,000 fans and we ared usually FULL …… haters.
Facts are facts and here is one more fact ………..the haters are jealous of UGA and they have NO EDUCATION, so they come on here to bash UGA and hate. geeeeeeeeez, sign up for some JC and get an education.
Go Dogs.
Herbie
June 16th, 2010
4:51 pm
If Florida had a guy like Charles or White, they’d get him 70 passes a season. UGA will only throw it to a TE 20-25x a season, max.
Hernanadez got 68 passes last year, Charles got 23, White got 15. Pathetic with their production.
Richt is the best waster of talent in the nation.
Damn Good Dawg
June 16th, 2010
4:55 pm
Herbie,
Florida runs a spread offense which allows them more “run and shoot” options, you don’t get that with the pro style offense. However, I’m sure Richt will fid a way to use the TE’s more this season.
1eyedJack
June 16th, 2010
4:55 pm
Another classic quote from Coach Johnson….”Are you that stupid?”
"if a Georgia fan gives you a hard time......"
June 16th, 2010
4:55 pm
……..you just punch em in the mouth” another classic quote from Paul Johnson
Damn Good Dawg
June 16th, 2010
4:57 pm
“Home of Mediocrity”
Our average is 10 wins/season… Mediocre? If thats so, then there are a lot of schools that are just plain terrible. Doink!
and........
June 16th, 2010
4:57 pm
you know……that other state school……” Paul Johnson
furthermore......tech/georgia....."
June 16th, 2010
4:58 pm
…its just another game….” Paul Johnson
1eyedJack
June 16th, 2010
5:00 pm
“We’ve got bigger fish to fry”…Paul Johnson
Herbie
June 16th, 2010
5:15 pm
If Arkansas had a TE like Olson or White, they’d get him 58 touches like they did DJ in 08.
Florida TE Hernandez 68 touches
Ark TE DJ 58 Touches
Georgia, Olson, #1 ranked TE in nation, 23 touches
Mark Richt is the biggest waster of talent in the SEC.
Tom
June 16th, 2010
5:16 pm
the TE position is one that is never ultilized how it should be. Orson charles is a terrific player, but afterall last season he was a freshman. So the coaches were hesistant.
We don’t have a deep threat, and we don’t know how deep the QB’s can throw. King and Ealey will establish the running game and the TE’s can take us further.
Herbie
June 16th, 2010
5:21 pm
If BYU, Florida or Arkansas had a TE like Charles or White, with that kind of productivity, they’d get him 60-80 touches a season.
Richt’s the biggest waster of talent in the coiuntry.
The Sham
June 16th, 2010
5:22 pm
@Fillin up @ Juniors – IF ALL CAPS AND TOO MUCH EXCITEMENT IS ALL THAT BOTHERS YOU ABOUT MY POST, THAT’S A YOU PROBLEM (LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO WORRY OVER SMALL STUFF LIKE THAT). OTHERWISE YOU MIGHT CONSIDER THE HANDLE “MONK”. IF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE READ IT, THEN MY MISSION WAS COMPLETE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION ON THE CHUCK THING THOUGHT. BTW – DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT AS TO WHAT THE HECK THE GATA THING STANDS FOR? IF YOU DO I’LL AT LEAST PROMISE TO POST IN NORMAL FONT SIZE FOR A WEEK…
The Sham
June 16th, 2010
5:23 pm
ERRRR – THOUGH RATHER THAN THOUGHT
Man Enough
June 16th, 2010
5:26 pm
Bama Rules, I’m sure you loved Richt in 02 and 07 huh? Richt is 2-1 vs Bama and yet we are 2nd rate? Get the F over your self!
Richard Tardits
June 16th, 2010
5:28 pm
I’m not getting my hopes up with Orson Charles. He’s got a serious case of the drops. I remember multiple passes that were throw right in his hands that he dropped.
Herbie
June 16th, 2010
5:32 pm
Orson Charles vs. Tony Gonzales
Sr. Yr High School Stats:
Tony: 62 catches, 945 yards, 15 ypc, 13 td’s, 20% passes to td ratio
Orson: 75 catches, 1440 yards, 19 ypc, 21 td’s, 28% passes to td ratio
if Richt had Tony Gonzales at UGA, he’d throw him 20 passes a season.
Tony averaged 80 passes a season in the NFL for about 1000 yards, and 6 td’s.
If Orson Charles was on Florida, BYU, or Arkansas, he’d get 50-70 touches. Those guys use the talent on their ball club. They get the ball to playmakers.
Not Richt. He likes to rotate his playmakers and sit them on the bench.
Bulldog59
June 16th, 2010
5:34 pm
Herbie, get back in your lovebug and drive away.
TE utilization is not the reason UGA didn’t do well last year. Florida didn’t win the SEC Championship, Arkansas didn’t win the SEC Championship, and BYU didn’t win the Mountain West Championship. And they would not have won their respective conferences even with Orson Charles.
He’s a huge weapon for us. He’s an added dimension for us, a WR at the TE position. But he’s not the reason we will or will not win the East…
Find another reason to hate UGA and CMR.
Herbie
June 16th, 2010
5:54 pm
TE production = key to Florida’s season
2005- Top TE- 4 catches- record 4 losses
2006- Top TE- 68 catches- record 1 loss
2007- Top TE- 34 catches- record 4 losses
2008- Top TE- 68 catches- record 1 loss
2005- Top TE- 68 catches- record 1 loss
If Florida’s Top TE gets less than 35 catches, Meyer loses 4 games
If Florida’s Top TE gets 60+ catches, Meyer goes 13-1
Herbie
June 16th, 2010
6:00 pm
Richt’s 2 SEC Championship seasons, 2002 & 2005, he had a great top TE who got 30+ catches, Ben Watson, back in 2002, and Leonard Pope back in 2005.
Watson almost got 40 catches in 2002
Pope broke 30 catches in 2005
Coach
June 16th, 2010
6:33 pm
So, CMR has two SEC champs. Big deal? How many NCs does he have? UGA thinks they are a top tier team. But no real results. Take UF now thats a top tier university. So is Bama. Uga you are not a top team. Top teams win champs.
Herbie
June 16th, 2010
6:43 pm
Richt’s coached in 5 National Campionships, has 2 rings.
Herbie
June 16th, 2010
6:46 pm
The reason I mentioned the 2 SEC Champ’s, was not to brag about how great Georgia or Richt is, but just to say, when Georgia or Florida has a great TE, it’s usually a great season.
So goes your top tight end, so goes the season.
Herbie
June 16th, 2010
6:59 pm
Alabama uses their RB’s for passes. Like to see Ealey get 25 catches this season. Have to figure out a low risk way to get the ball to playmakers.
Alabama throws to Ingram 25 times.
Florida does the shovel pass to the TE a lot.
They use their playmakers.
Richt, not so much. AJ–Ealey–Orson, 3 of the most productive players in the SEC, all had limited touches last season.
Me
June 16th, 2010
7:02 pm
Orson to Aaron at about the 2nd game of the season…”Midge, I don’t think we’re in high school anymore”.
Scott
June 16th, 2010
7:17 pm
Sham……..it’s Get After That A$$!!! Woooo whoooo
how2fish
June 16th, 2010
7:19 pm
Coach there are what 3 active coaches with a better record the last decade than CMR…if that doesn’t met your lofty standard..you can kiss the Bull Dog Nations butt at high noon on Main street…you slimy hater you…that was the last decade just to be clear.You guys have a pattern since the Bear died win a NC once every 10 years or so get caught cheating and have 2-4 terrible years and then work your way back…live with it everyone in the SEC since the Bear died has know that if Bama was winning Bama was cheating up to the day Nick Saban blew in..I have to give the devil his due he runs a clean program..but the minute he leaves……we have no NC’s under CMR YET but no 5-7 etc in the last decade can the might Tide say the same??
Adonisdaking
June 16th, 2010
7:23 pm
This Is A New Year and A New QB Whom Is Comfortable With O.Charles and A.White…The TE’s Will Play A Very Important Aspect Into Our Offense This Year…CMR Has Already Informed Us 2 TE Sets….Throwing The Ball To AJ Green…2 RB DUO and Maybe Even 3 Because D.Jackson Of Heard County Is Pretty Good…Experienced Offensive Line….I Know The UGA Offense Will Improve…The Assistant Coaches JOBS Depend On It!…This Is A New CMR He Is Holding Coaches Responsible…They Will Go Before CMR…I Assure U….Bobo Better Bring It!….GOOOOOOOOO DAWGS……..
Herbie
June 16th, 2010
7:26 pm
Offensive Playmaker =
1) Don’t fumble (think of Ingram or Tebow or Hernandez)
2) Be productive (Ingram gets 6 ypc rushing and 10 ypc receiving)
Florida or Alabama do not reward people who don’t protect the ball with more touches, no matter how “productivre” they are, the risk exceeds the reward.
Guys like Caleb King & Joe Cox & Branden Smith would have never seen the light of day at Florida or Alabama.
Georgia has some offensive playmakers who excel in production AND ball protection, Richt just doesn’t get them the ball enough.
Ingram got 300 touches last year.
Tebow got 14 carries a game, plus 20 passes a game, 34 touches a game.
Ingram- 300 touches
Ealey- 125
Consider Ealey was ALMOST as productive as Ingram at 5.7 ypc rushing & 7.7 ypc receiving, Ingram was 6.1 ypc rsrushing & 7.7 ypc, both protect the ball superbly.
Tebow 476 touches
Orson 23 touches
1980 Dawg
June 16th, 2010
8:00 pm
Washaun Ealey is an excellent football player and a young man of good character. So is Caleb King. Aaron Murray lives and breaths football 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and is a true leader. Orson Charles is a genetic freak, and a fine citizen. There is not another team in the SEC that has the depth at tight end that Georgia has. Offensive line is very experienced. Georgia has lots of wide receivers, including A. J. Green, the best receiver in all of college football. Todd Grantham is coaching the defense. I watched Georgia practice several times in the Spring, and Coach Grantham has the defense very focused. Folks, we are about to have a good season. GATA!
Toole
June 16th, 2010
8:29 pm
Let’s split all 4 TE’s out wide, put AJ and Wooten in backfield and throw a swing pass to either AJ or Wooten.
Justin
June 16th, 2010
8:41 pm
CMR needs to go to mis-matches—usually TE or RB for passes—best DB will be on AJ—best mis-match will be an LB trying to run and catch Orson, Aaron, Wooten, Tavarres, Caleb or Washaun.
Throwing dump pass to RB’s or TE’s for big gains will drive blitzers nuts. Murray will get a lot of that in the SC & Ark games, if he’s ready, he can really burn these guys for big plays off of simple dump checkdown passes.
Throws to RB’s need to be closer to the sidelines away from the defense, like Florida does.
orlando Dawg
June 16th, 2010
8:42 pm
Let’s hope that everyone on offense, defense and special teams execute well for UGA. If that happens along with everyone staying healthy, and throw in a bit of luck for good measure. The possibilities are limitless. GO DAWGS……………GATA
1980 Dawg
June 16th, 2010
9:09 pm
I forgot to mention a couple of very important points. Georgia has two of the best kickers (field goal & punter) in the country.
AltamahaDawg
June 16th, 2010
9:45 pm
Imagine a Senior TE is a spread offence getting more touches than a freshman in the pro-set. Amazing!
AltamahaDawg
June 16th, 2010
9:49 pm
“Guys like Caleb King & Joe Cox & Branden Smith would have never seen the light of day at Florida or Alabama.”
So they would ahve just played with 10 guys on the filed or what?
Or was your point that they had better players than us, Captain Obvious?
G
June 16th, 2010
9:51 pm
Tim if this is all you have don’t bother writing articles anymore. Come on
AltamahaDawg
June 16th, 2010
9:56 pm
I never realized that Ingram was a freshman last year who came into fall camp injured and couldn’t play until well into the season. And to think he won the trophy like that.
IGETTIT
June 16th, 2010
10:30 pm
Just learned that GT does not use tight end(position player)> That would leave them playing with only 10 guys!!! No wonder UGA won last year. Just wish I knew a little more about this game.
AltamahaDawg
June 16th, 2010
10:35 pm
Ingram- 300 touches
Ealey- 125
Uh yea, Ealey was a freshman who only was able to play in the last 9 games. Ingram the feature back from day one in 14 games.
A more fair comparison would be the year before as a freshman as well:
Ingram 14 game 143 attempts 728 yds
Ealey 9 game 125 attempts 728 yrd
In case you can’t figure it out, Richt got Ealey more touches per game than Saban did with his future Heisman talent.
I guess you missed the fact that AJ Greene was hurt much of the year too.
To sit there and try to say that Mark Richt is too stupid to get the ball to his best playmaker is about as silly as it gets.
BigCaliDawg
June 16th, 2010
10:39 pm
That’s a logjam. We might wanna put a shirt on Lynch.
All 4 will be back next year to boot.
Amazing one of those studs didn’t transfer!
Bulldog59
June 16th, 2010
11:04 pm
Wow, lots of comments on what CMR needs to do to the offense.
Everyone does realize that, even with All-Thumbs Joe Cox at QB in 2009, UGA LED THE LEAGUE IN SCORING IN SEC GAMES with 234 points. (tied with Arkansas.)
Other than JC at QB, the other offensive issues are easily addressable, i.e. Bobo calling the same 8 plays most of the time….etc.
The offense led the league in scoring…. the problem was the defense gave up 252 points, WORST IN THE SEC.
With CMR back to his old schedule of attending the offensive meetings during the week, the O is just fine.
P.S. 1980 Dawg good synopsis/comments
Herbie
June 16th, 2010
11:15 pm
CMR needs suggestions galore. He should be reading this blog. CMR sure ain’t figured out how to get his offense going yet. He was supposed to be some kind of offensive guru when he came in. Sure, he played in the ACC, and the SEC has much tougher defenses. But still, no one expected him to finish so middle of the pack in so many SEC areas. CMR needs suggestions. He does NOT know how to fix it, or what the problem is.
It might seem obvious to say Florida goes 13-1 when their best TE has more than 65 catches and 9-4 when they don’t, but since Richt has never had a TE catch 65 catches in a season, I’d say he hasn’t noticed this, and needs to try it out.
When Florida is scoring @38 points a game, and Richt is scoring @29, he hasn’t figured out his offense yet.
Pi$$onaDawg
June 17th, 2010
12:07 am
UGA has always used their TE.
AltamahaDawg
June 17th, 2010
12:12 am
It might seem obvious but Richt has gone 13-1 too. Did the TE catch the magic number of passes that year?
AltamahaDawg
June 17th, 2010
12:59 am
“It might seem obvious to say Florida goes 13-1 when their best TE has more than 65 catches and 9-4 when they don’t, but since Richt has never had a TE catch 65 catches in a season, I’d say he hasn’t noticed this, and needs to try it out.”
Except that UF also won a NC in 2006 and 2008 when the TE position only had around 30 rec. Richt’s worst (w/l record) had around 40 rec from the TE. That doesn’t really back up you point now does it?
BTW, this guy Hernandez that you brag on, had 9 cathes his first year. Charles had 23 his first year. So…..yea.
You are correct in that Richt does need to read this stuff. He needs a good laugh I am sure.
col fot
June 17th, 2010
1:04 am
Would somebody fill me in on the thugs of GT beating the girl almost to death in the 90’s, what is the real story? Seems to me this activity needs more attention.
Bulldog59
June 17th, 2010
7:00 am
UF went to the SECCG because they gave up 96 points in their 8 SEC games, SECOND best in the SEC, and they lost, Alabama, who gave up only 85 points in their 8 SEC games (BEST/LOWEST in the SEC.)
The offense needs “tinkering” the defense was our issue, hence, when you are WORST in the league, 3 out of 4 coaches get fired. Defense wins championships, not 10-12 extra passes to the TE.
Altamaha, good points……
How2fish
June 17th, 2010
8:12 am
Herbie the day CMR takes any suggestion from you on how to coach a team..he should hang them up..I pray that day is a long time coming.
AltamahaDawg
June 17th, 2010
10:06 am
How many thousands hours has Richt in his coaching carreer studied the TE situation in details that we cannot even imagine?
But yea, Meyer has it all figured out, and Richt needs to mimic exactly what he did. But just this one year mind you, because appearantly Meyer was a complete idiot all the year before now as well.
The Sham
June 17th, 2010
11:57 am
Scott- thanks! I like it… I MEAN I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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