UGA reports nine secondary violations
Georgia has self-reported nine secondary violations of NCAA rules this year — a list of transgressions that provides a glimpse into the minutiae of the NCAA rulebook.
The violations, revealed in response to an open-records request by the AJC, cover a range of sports — a football coach returning a call to a high school junior, basketball recruits sitting in the wrong seats in Stegeman Coliseum, a track-and-field recruit being reimbursed an extra 5 cents per mile.
All crossed the line of NCAA bylaws.
Schools routinely self-report secondary violations to the NCAA, which defines them as inadvertent missteps that don’t create a significant competitive advantage. Georgia’s nine violations since Jan. 1 are a typical number for that time period; UGA reported 10 in the final six months of last year.
“Not to make any excuses, but the NCAA manual is over 400 pages thick, with other interpretations out there too,” said Eric Baumgartner, Georgia’s assistant athletics director for compliance. “I think sometimes it does get bogged down into the minutiae, but certainly on some of [the violations] I think they are preventable.”
Baungartner said all of the violations reported this year came to light internally, usually because coaches called them to the compliance department’s attention..
“It’s a great process we have,” Baumgartner said, “in that coaches are comfortable enough to say, ‘Hey, I made a mistake; I’m letting you know.’”
Georgia’s nine violations, only one involving the football program, provide a primer on the intricacies of NCAA rules:
- A football coach, not identified in the documents, returned a missed telephone call to an unfamiliar number that turned out to be the cellphone of a recruit who was a junior in high school. That violated NCAA rules because it was before the permissible time period for calling juniors. The case has not been resolved.
- A men’s basketball coach participated in a TV interview while a recruit’s game played in the background. The case was resolved with “rules education” for the coach.
- Women’s basketball recruits on an unofficial visit were provided seats “outside the general seating area” of Stegeman Coliseum by a parent of a current player. NCAA rules allow prospects to sit in the general seating area but not in premium seats. Resolution: rules education.
- The baseball team had 36 players receive financial aid or participate in a game — one above the limit. The case remains open, but Baumgartner said a typical penalty would be to have the number of permitted players reduced by two next season (to 33).
- A track coach replied to a text message from a prospect, breaking the rule against sending texts to recruits. It would have been OK to reply if the message had been an e-mail. The case remains open.
- A visiting track recruit was reimbursed for mileage at last year’s rate of 55 cents per mile instead of this year’s rate of 50 cents. Resolution: The difference — about $7, Baumgartner said — was returned to UGA and donated to charity.
- A women’s tennis coach publicly commented on a walk-on player before she was admitted to UGA. Resolution: rules education.
- A men’s tennis coach watched a recruit “participate in recreational activities” during an official visit to campus. The case is pending.
- A member of the equestrian team participated in a competition before completing the repayment of prize money she had won. Baumgartner said student-athletes sometimes agree to repayment plans to gain NCAA eligibility and that in this instance one payment remained. The case is pending.
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JB
June 11th, 2010
10:35 am
No, but Tech reported a crime from the Orange Bowl….they were mugged…..LOL
JB
June 11th, 2010
10:36 am
GATORMAN…….you are as clueless as your nut job head coach……
2001Dawg
June 11th, 2010
10:38 am
To “4 ncs are better than 1″,
You’re a freaking moron. Why don’t you get a life and get a job, because you obviously don’t have one….I’m just saying…NERD!!!
Church Guy
June 11th, 2010
10:41 am
Keeping up with and adhering to NCAA rules has risen to biblical proportions. It will take the coming of a new sports Messiah to break this overboard leagalism.
Eisendawg
June 11th, 2010
10:43 am
Breaking News: The University of florida and Urban Meyer report 47 secondary violations, and will self-impose the following penalties:
(1) a two inch hem must be sewn on the bottom of all gay shorts
(2) all future eye-gouging incidents will require a 3 quarter suspension, instead 1 half.
(3) restriction on how much time Tim Tebow can spend with C.J. Spiller.
(4) Meyer is limited on number of times he can retire, must be less than Bret Favre.
1eyedJack
June 11th, 2010
10:45 am
4 ncs
3 of those were won with leather helmets and back when they used a real pig for the football.
None of those “so called NCs” were awarded by ranking services that still exist anymore and neither does the one you claim in 1990.
collegeballfan
June 11th, 2010
10:47 am
“Not to make any excuses, but the NCAA manual is over 400 pages thick…”
The reason the manual is over 400 pages thick is coaches and schools cheat. If coaches and schools stop cheating the rules manual becomes meaningless stack of paper. But remember, every single rule is in the book because some coach or school cheated.
And we all know that the coaches and schools will not stop cheating.
GaGator
June 11th, 2010
10:48 am
JB
Now be nice, just wanted to share some fact on academics, comparinf Florida to UGA.
Florida is ranked # 47 in the nation, UGA # 58. Florida’s acceptance rate is 39.5% and UGA’s is 55.6%. Now please explain all the dummies at Florida.
Red
June 11th, 2010
10:49 am
And name a schoool that has not unintentionally broken NCAA secondary rules!
And name a schoool that has not unintentionally broken NCAA secondary rules!
And name a schoool that has not unintentionally broken NCAA secondary rules!
Commonsenseagitator
June 11th, 2010
10:50 am
uga hasa long history of cheating, deny all you want. Richt comes from a program that has always cheated so I suppose he thinks that as long as its hidden well no foul.
GaGator
June 11th, 2010
10:50 am
JB
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings/page+3
Check out the academics at the above web site.
Tech Alum
June 11th, 2010
11:03 am
My fellow Tech fans…please quit the silly comments regarding UGa cheating. We had violations several years ago (as mentioned by Eisendog)that smother today’s minor infraction report. Let’s not embarras GT by throwing stones in our glass house.Enter your comments here
The Truth
June 11th, 2010
11:03 am
GA Tech Lies & Cheats & Everyone knows it! Everyone! GA Tech and Tennessee are the two biggest outlaw schools in the country. GA Tech should clean up their act or get kicked out of the NCAA. GA Tech fans are complete idiots for supporting a lying/cheating program like Tech has. Maybe this explains why Tech fans are so ugly and are social rejects. LOL!
Here is the real story
June 11th, 2010
11:04 am
To Gator Fans: Florida is a fine school, Georgia is fine school. As a graduate of both, they’re virtually identical in terms of program offering and academic rigor, (Med school in Augusta aside).
But I will say this, you don’t “own” anybody that you have a losing record to no matter how successful you have been recently.
Now………..to you poor Tech fans:
Georgia has a winning record verses Georgia Tech in everys single sport, men’s and women’s, that the two compete with the exception of Men’s Basketball.
Georgia leads the series in football with Tech 60-37-4. Even in Georgia Tech’s hayday, they never led the series by more than 4 games. When they left the SEC, contrary to Tech’s delusions, they had a losing record to UGA.
Georgia has more wins, bowl appearances, bowl wins, all americans, heisman trophy winners, players in the pros, starters in the pros, MVP’s, super bowl champions, current players in the pros, etc than Tech
The NCAA doesn’t award a National Championship, they never have. But according to apples to apples NC claims. UGA has one Unanimous National Champion in 1980, Tech has never been a unanimous National Champion. UGA has two Consensus (Greater than 50% of polls), Tech has never been Consensus National Champion, UGA has been AP National Champion once, Tech has never been AP National Champion. UGA has been named National Champion by a recognized poll 6 Times, Tech has been recognized only 4 times.
Georgia graduates concieved, funded, founded, & chartered the Georgia Institute of Technology. It’s an inexscapable fact. Classes were being held in Athens 100 years before the first brick was laid at the intersection of two dirt roads (North Ave & 10th).
When you are so totally and completely overshadowed, it tends to occupy your thoughts. I submit the entire existance of the North Avenue Trade School and this blog as evidence.
Dawg4life
June 11th, 2010
11:09 am
Oh Techies… Did you guys “self-report” the fraternity terrorists that were trying to blow up Atlanta, but instead blew up themselves??? Man kharma is a b!tch. I thought you guys were supposed to be smart? 4nc’s is by far the biggest idiot ever to post on the ajc. Its so funny how Tech fans will try to find anything to shine a turd. 30-24, 9-1, enough said.
Eisendawg
June 11th, 2010
11:13 am
4nc”s is really St. Simons, just too embarressed to admit it.
Eisendawg
June 11th, 2010
11:14 am
Woops! embarrassed
GT BBall Fan
June 11th, 2010
11:33 am
JB has alot to say about nothing.
GT BBall Fan
June 11th, 2010
11:36 am
1990 National Champs – Everybody knows it but Dawgs and Buffaloes!
Einsteindawg
June 11th, 2010
11:37 am
With the on-going expansion of conferences, I think you are also seeing the NCAA on a fast track to becoming obsolete. The power wielded by these mega-conferences will enable them to have their own governing body. You say it can’t happen? Remember the AAU…what are they doing now except sponsoring some summer basketball games? Just my opinion and it’s always about the money.
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Bruce Mac
June 11th, 2010
11:52 am
Tim Tucker should be charged with baiting the field. Dumb Azz loser Yechsters fall for it everytime. Sorry all you Tech Graduates are on lay off and have nothing better to do, but it is just too predictable and also laughable that you think you are relavent. Has GT been invited into the Gulf South Conference yet? I am sure all this power conference consolidation is going to leave your high school football program in a great position (NOT).
Reality Check
June 11th, 2010
11:57 am
Oh the biterness of Tech fans. Hey what are y’all going to do in a few years when GA State has the second best football program in the state? Your fan base is going to implode.
pcb mike
June 11th, 2010
12:14 pm
UGA cheating, what a shocker. There could be 4 pages of rules in the NCAA book, and UGA would still have violations every year. Maybe they should send their administrators to college to learn to read. Of course they would have to go to a college other than UGA as bird watching degrees don’t seem to be working out.
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12:24 pm
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N.GA.DAWG
June 11th, 2010
12:35 pm
Reading so many DA tech comments is priceless. Hey, I thought you were supposed to be the smart one’s. LOL! 30-24 and still running.
Flo-Ri-Duh!
June 11th, 2010
12:37 pm
Sounds like the NCAA rule’s book is made up by a bunch of Fed Government IRS tax lawyers and lawyers elected to the Senate and House. What a bunch of crap. Get the lawyers out of the government and out of sports. They screw up every thing – send them to Iran and Afghanistan and see how long they will last over there with this B.S.
Flo-Ri-Duh!
June 11th, 2010
12:39 pm
pcb Mike – are you a lawyer or do just like showing off your ignorance of how the world works. There is not a single college in the country that does not get secondary violations.
harold
June 11th, 2010
12:47 pm
GEORGIA IS THE NEW MIAMI! CHEATERS!
Arlo
June 11th, 2010
12:50 pm
If “Schools routinely self-report secondary violations, which the NCAA defines as inadvertent missteps that do not create a significant competitive advantage.” Then why was Alabama forced to give up wins & scholarships over the “Schoolbook” violation? Does the NCAA think that gave them a competitive advantage?
Texas Fight !
June 11th, 2010
12:55 pm
Don’t get me started on Herschel Walker’s Trans Am at UGA…….UGA might have to forfeit that season too !
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June 11th, 2010
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Junior Samples
June 11th, 2010
1:18 pm
……and meanwhile over at USC Reggie Bush is driving hummers and has his entire family moved into a nice home. According to the headline by the AJC the UGA story is bigger.
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laughing at Bulldog fans
June 11th, 2010
1:27 pm
Isn’t it funny the response on the ajc when they reported this type thing on Tennessee and the response on this blog………..I think the Baptist have a word for it…………..hypocrite.
a whole lot to do about nothing when the story was on tenn and the same now……shouldn’t even be a story.
Eisendawg
June 11th, 2010
1:30 pm
Reporting from Tennessee: USC just became usc. The USC in Columbia is now more likely to be the next BCS champion, Lane Kiffin’s last program is a better bet to make a bowl game than his current one, and UCLA is the hottest football program in Los Angeles.
It’s hard to say who’s happier over the NCAA going medieval on Southern California: Its cross-town rival or its cross-country Kiffin haters?
Tennessee football fans haven’t been this excited since the Vols got in field-goal range on their last drive against Alabama. But the final score is so much better: Karma 1, Kiffin 0.
FRED
June 11th, 2010
1:40 pm
AND I THOUGHT WE HAD IDIOTS IN DC.
jasont13
June 11th, 2010
2:31 pm
Harold and everyone that have posted negative comments need to get a life. I’m a athletic compliance officer at a well known Big East school and I can tell you these types of things happen a heck of a lot more than you think. Every school has infractions like these, it is just up to the AD to actually have them reported to the NCAA. Back to Harold, you are going to talk about UGA being a cheater when you proclaim that Alabama is the best thing since sliced bread. Wasn’t Alabama almost given the procliamed death penalty a few years ago??
jasont13
June 11th, 2010
2:32 pm
This is to 4 NCS, you can definitly tell you are un-educated cause you post things and have zero facts to back them up. Tech has had plenty of major and minor NCAA infractions. Like I said earlier it is up to the school to report them to the NCAA.
Booby Bowden taught CMR how to lie, cheat
June 11th, 2010
6:45 pm
CMR played ball @ Miami….just a matter of time b4 he gets caught.
Sweet Home Alabama
June 11th, 2010
11:06 pm
A great day for UGA,the blackeye of the SEC.The new QB has already gotten in trouble and he aint he got there yet.Now i read the football team has 10 new violations.
this getting embarassing ,I got an idea for these lousy MUTTS.get out of the SEC and get in a conference with Fresno State ,UNLV,SMU and all the other cheaters of the world.
I love the CRIMSON TIDE HOW BOUT YOU………………..ROLL TIDE ROLL……………..
BuLLdawg
June 12th, 2010
6:12 am
By Chris Low
One of the best ways to evaluate a coach is to look at his record against nationally ranked teams.
Coaches in the SEC against what was on game day Top 25 foes at their current schools
Here’s a complete rundown:
Urban Meyer, Florida — 19-6 (.760)
Nick Saban, Alabama — 11-5 (.688)
Houston Nutt, Ole Miss — 5-3 (.625)
Les Miles, LSU — 18-11 (.621)
Mark Richt, Georgia — 29-19 (.604)
Of course, the real measure is what the Coaches Records in Fact Actually are against Top 25 Teams in the Final AP Poll.
And, what their records in Fact Actually are against Top 10 Final AP Poll Teams.
Not what they were ranked on game day.
But, if Chris Low wants to point out today that we are the # 5 in The SEC against ranked opponents in either the AP Poll, or the USA Today Coaches’ Poll of which the ESPN is no longer involved with, on Game Day, then that is all he has ever talked about in the first place.
Let’s look at some examples, please Chris Low, sir.
Georgia tek in 2006 was ranked # 16 on Game Day, so that counts as 1 of your Coach Richt 29 wins versus Top 25 Ranked Teams on Game Day in one Poll or another, which is what you correctly report sir.
Georgia tek in 2006 lost 4 of its last 5 games beating only a sorry 7-6 ACC has been team at Grant Field by 1 touchdown. Therefore losing 4 of its last 5 games, including their loss in the bowl game, Georgia tek is NOT RANKED 2006.
Perhaps you would like to provide us all Chris Low where the Top 25 Poll for 2006 show that Georgia tek is RANKED in the Final AP Poll Top 25, sir ?
That is not a win over a ranked opponent.
BuLLdawg
June 12th, 2010
6:13 am
There are in fact, 12 such “wins over Top 25 teams on Game Day in either of the polls” where the team actually is NOT A TOP 25 RANKED TEAM in the Final AP Poll Top 25 and therefore do not count as a win over an in fact Top 25 team that season.
Chris Low, it is so easy to just click on the AP Poll and quit with the USA Today Coaches’ Poll which ESPN no longer is involved with in the first place any longer because it is a hoax, and measure the same coaches’ games those years against it and see that Coach Richt is 17-19 vs Top 25 Final AP Poll teams and 3-8 vs Top 10 Final AP Poll teams with no win in any bowl game over a Top 10 Final AP Poll team, sir.
Another of the 12 “wins over Top 25 teams on Game Day in either of the polls” is Boise State in 2005, whom DJ Shockley beat by running for 2 Touchdowns himself and throwing for another 4 ‘Tween The Hedges. By the time we cleared the bench, the dust settled on a 48-13 shellacking. It might as well have been Western Kentucky, not a Top 25 team as you incorrectly report Chris Low, sir.
Boise State in 2005 was ranked # 18 on Game Day in either of the polls. Do you know why they are not a ranked team in the Top 25 Final AP Poll in 2005 Chris Low besides the blistering roasting by DJ Shockley ? A lousy 8-5 WAC team beat them 27-7. A losing record 5-6 no bowl game team beat Boise State in 2005 as well And, a has-been hapless ACC team beat Boise State in addition in the MPC Computers Bowl on December 28 just after Christmas in Boise Idaho on the blue carpet. THIS IS NOT A TOP 25 Final AP Poll team, now is it Chris Low, sir ?
I’ll give you another example. Tennessee lost 5 SEC games alone in 2005 and clearly is not a Top 25 Final AP Poll team, then. However, on Game Day – early in the Season – Tennessee vols are ranked # 8. Hell South Carolina, 7-5 beat the vols in 2005 and Vanderbilt 5-6 no bowl game even both beat the vols at Neyland Stadium in 2005. Don’t give me this crap that Coach Richt beat 29 Top 25 teams, when in fact he is 17-19 vs Top 25 Final AP Poll teams. And 3-8 vs Top 10 Final AP Poll teams, none in any bowl game.
But, it is interesting to note that Coach Richt is # 5 in The SEC against teams ranked in either the AP Poll or the Coaches’ Poll on Game Day. We also are # 4 vs SEC teams the last 4 years and # 3 vs SEC East teams the last 4 years, so # 5 in The SEC against teams ranked in either the AP Poll or the Coaches’ Poll on Game Day does NOT surprise me.
BuLLdawg
June 12th, 2010
6:16 am
Southern California gave up wins starting December 2004 in which they, not Auburn, beat Oklahoma and all of 2005 when they of course Lost to Texas.
Southern California remains 31 games ahead of UGA Bulldogs in All-Time Football wins in 10th place.
Southern California back 36 years has not won the National Championship in Football, when UGA did in 1980 Consensus 30 years ago, making UGA better.
I’d also like to wish Christian LeMay Happy 18th Birthday in Athens today with his brothers for Football Camp. He remains the 1 recruit on Offense, none in this state last year 2010 or next year 2011, if indeed his commitment with all the outs, is a commitment to Mike Bobo by name.
Mike Bobo, the same coach responsible for recruiting Christian LeMay, Zach Mettenberger, and Montez Robinson to name the most recent 3 to run afoul of The University of Georgia itself.
Admissions Department is already weighing in on the matter, as they did for example Jamar Chaney and Michael Grant. Now, we have this hanging over our heads between now and this time next year – and, he yet another Top 10 at his Position Recruit that we can butt heads between the football staff and The University itself.
So, Happy Birthday Christian LeMay. Big 18 years old. You will fit right in here, son with all the other Mike Bobo recruited players.
Michael Grant.
Christian LeMay.
These 2 cases are both the same, reportedly.
I think we should ask Mr. LeMay to not show up today in Athens, or his brothers, until his mom and dad want to be truthful about this young lady on school grounds, all of which should be out by Monday. We went a month there without this kind of news since the last of 3 football players were kicked off team, 2 of them for incidents with young ladies, both Top 10 Players at their Positions.
Oh, joy. Michael Grant and Christian LeMay, both the same.
BuLLdawg
June 12th, 2010
6:33 am
Georgia tek does not have 4 national championships in football to UGA only 1.
UGA has 6 national championships, ranked # 1 by the exact same very polls that Georgia tek has 6
according to The Official NCAA Football Records Book on my desk.
I will however point out 1 difference, UGA has a national championship according to the Final AP Poll.
Georgia tek does not have ANY national championship according to the Final AP Poll ANY year, ever.
Also, if you go back and look at the teams’ rosters of some of these “Georgia tek national championships” they were during WAR YEARS and Georgia tek played players who IN FACT are in the College Football HALL OF FAME with SOME OTHER COLLEGE LISTED BY THEIR NAMES, not Georgia tek.
You cheated. You played players who were NOT STUDENTS at Georgia tek. You played players who actually were the best players in the nation at OTHER COLLEGES, not Georgia tek.
And, NO AP Poll national championship.
0.
Georgia tek DOES HAVE however 7 seasons in which Georgia tek won ZERO (0) games.
Georgia tek DOES ALSO HAVE 5 more seasons in which Georgia tek won only ONE (1) game all season long.
4 to 1.
What a load of hogwash. Look at what polls ranked Georgia tek # 1.
Look at the same polls and find Georgia listed SIX (6) Times.
N.C.C.A. Here!!!
June 12th, 2010
8:43 am
Alabama thinks the rule book is silly also . How many times they have they put on probation?We have lost count.
G-Spot
June 12th, 2010
10:11 am
I love how all these techies are so quick to dog UGA for 9 secondary violations when their “beloved” bees had 10, http://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-tech/tech-self-reports-10-547397.html. GOO DAWGS
ryan
June 14th, 2010
2:06 pm
http://edgeteamsports.com/
Jake UGA
June 14th, 2010
4:48 pm
lol Georgia Tech is still a rival?? sorry techies I have forgotten completely about you, with greater concerns like Florida and Tennessee lol