Richt says no timetable for Gray decision but position switch possible if he stays
Georgia coach Mark Richt said Thursday afternoon that if quarterback Logan Gray “wants to stay at Georgia, I’ll work with him on what position he plays.”
Gray, the No. 2 quarterback on Georgia’s post-spring depth chart, met Monday with Richt to discuss his status on the team and the possibility of transferring to another school. Richt said Thursday there is no timetable for Gray to make a decision.
Richt reiterated that Gray still has a shot to be Georgia’s starting quarterback but said he also would have the option of playing another position. Gray previously expressed interest in playing wide receiver if things did not work out at quarterback. He was listed behind redshirt freshman Aaron Murray at quarterback on the depth chart released last week.
Gray “wants to play, and right now he’s not sure that he can,” Richt said. “I made it real clear, as clear as a bell, that we just had a post-spring depth chart that did not name anybody a starter at any position, including quarterback. But when he ended up No. 2 behind Murray, I’m sure that’s what triggered it.
“So he’s trying to decide what he wants to do – whether he wants to stay here and, if he stays, what position he wants to play and all that kind of stuff. If he wants to be at Georgia, then I’ll work with him on what position he plays and all.”
Richt said it’s not unusual for a player in Gray’s situation to consider his options.
“This type of thing actually happens a whole lot more than anybody ever knows,” Richt said. “It usually doesn’t become a public issue. But I guess nowadays, with the way word travels, somebody caught wind that he had come to see me discussing what to do. Usually those things are done in private, and those kids have a chance to think about it without everybody hammering them on it and wondering what everybody’s opinion of it is.
“But the bottom line is, if he wants to be at Georgia, we’re glad to have him. And we are certainly a better team with him than without him.”
Part of the reason the Gray issue has caused such a ruckus is that if he were to transfer, Georgia’s only scholarship quarterbacks would be Murray, who has never played in a college game, and incoming freshman Hutson Mason, who arrives this summer from Marietta’s Lassiter High School. Gray is a junior but has thrown only 12 passes in college games himself.
“Whether he’s here or whether he’s not here,” Richt said, “we have a tremendous amount of inexperience at the quarterback position.”
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Michael
April 29th, 2010
2:18 pm
Notice that CMR didnt say he would let Gray out if he wanted to transfer.
Angela
April 29th, 2010
2:23 pm
Who cares about anything that Mark Richt says? He’ll be gone a year from now for his total inability to win the big games, and for the arrest record of his players. He’s a complete disgrace and should be fired today.
College sports are not meant to be played by drunks and felons.
gdawgy
April 29th, 2010
2:27 pm
It’s gonna be hard for Gray to win back his teammates. Wanting to transfer just because he wasn’t named the top QB shows he isn’t ready to lead this team. I think a switch to receiver would be the right thing to do, but still keep him third on the depth chart at quarterback. If Murray ends up getting hurt and Mason just doesn’t cut it, then Gray would still be there.
Mike in the SAV
April 29th, 2010
2:33 pm
Angela,
I guess then that the following schools should fire their coaches too:
Minnesota
East Carolina
UL- LaFayette
Oregon
Duke
NC State
Buffalo
Marshall
Colorado
LSU
Ohio
Arkansas
The schools plus UGA have 105 arrests this year as of April 27.
College kids drink? who would have thunk it?
mark
April 29th, 2010
2:42 pm
“tremendous inexperience at the QB position”
And whose fault is that Richt?!?!?!?!
John
April 29th, 2010
2:42 pm
Angela, that is a pathetic jab at Mark Richt and the football program of the University of Georgia, he’s a class act and a very good football coach. The unfortunate truth is there are plenty of “drunks and felons” as you say at all schools, it has just been put under the magnifying glass recently at UGA. Now as for the subject of the article, I hope Logan chooses to stay but wish him well no matter what he does! I agree we’re better with him, he provides depth and likely a more reliable backup than the young guys coming in. If he opts for more playing time somewhere else I don’t blame him though. Can’t wait for the fall to get here, Go dawgs!
Dixie Clear
April 29th, 2010
2:42 pm
amen angela…..
JB
April 29th, 2010
2:42 pm
I ‘m real concerned about out depth chart at QB. Not Murray, our depth. We are one bad ankle away from playing a QB who doesn’t know how to find the practice field by himself, much less run a SEC offense.
TexasDawg
April 29th, 2010
2:44 pm
LOL!!! Change positions?? Why the hell did he not ask the samething of Cox last year?? Cox sucked all year and he did not een take a chance on playing another guy, so now we are to believe Gray could not work out. Gray not only did not get an proper chance the guy is really getting hosed by CMR. Last year CMR stuck with the senior (who sucked) instead of giving anyone of those backups a chance. And before people start saying he did give Gray a chance, please read the article again “12″ passes is not a chance!!!!!
JB
April 29th, 2010
2:44 pm
Going to hear Richt tonight in Augusta…….
DawginLex
April 29th, 2010
2:51 pm
Angela=toothless, classless loser
Richt has booted 3 kids off the team this spring for doing stuoid stuff. What else do you want him to do? They are college kids who are going to drink and party and he keeps them under wraps pretty well. Plus he sets a great example with the type of person he is.
Who is your team/coach Angela?
Unless it is a group of nuns living in a convent, chances are somebody there has screwed up just like the UGA kids.
DawginLex
April 29th, 2010
2:52 pm
stupid stuff, not stuoid
dance biscuits
April 29th, 2010
2:53 pm
“amen angela”? Stay off the Everclear, dixie clear
How2fish
April 29th, 2010
2:53 pm
Mike in the SAV you also forgot UT and UF.and Mark CMR didn’t make Mett do the DA things he did…so you have 1 QB gets himself kicked off the team and then another get his feelings hurt because he feels slighted and threatens to take his ball and go home…what exactly would you have CMR do overlook Mett actions? Promise Logan the starting gig? Kidnap another school’s QB? What??
Amazing
April 29th, 2010
2:54 pm
Thought I would grade the bloogers for a change:
Michael D
Angela F
GDawgy A
Mike in SAV A
Mark D
John A
Dixie Clear F
JB C
Texas Dawg C
JB B
Amazing
April 29th, 2010
3:00 pm
DawginLex A
dance biscuits A
How2Fish A
Angela is an idiot
April 29th, 2010
3:01 pm
College kids drink. Angela likely didn’t because she likely has no friends. If Angela worked for me I would fire her for being an idiot. Athletes are still regular people. UGA is far from the only place where kids drink and then get suspended. Go back to Tech Angela.
patrick
April 29th, 2010
3:02 pm
Angela… Richt is 9-2 in big games (bowls and championships) you need to go back to knitting and leave football to us guys
Logan Grey
April 29th, 2010
3:05 pm
I’m leaving because Bobo couldn’t coach a peewee football team to a .500 win season, much less coordinate an SEC offense. Sheesh….
Charlie Hayes
April 29th, 2010
3:05 pm
CMR has done a great job at UGA. He has set the bar for the attitude and leadership for all college coaches. Sure, CMR has struggled at times, however what college coach has not struggled? College football is more than just one player as well. If the O-Line gels this summer and Trinton’s knee holds up then you better look out. UGA will run the ground-and-pound all over the SEC. UGA is two-deep with experience at every O-Line position and we have four (4) running backs that can all lay the wood. The 2010 O-team will be a 60 rush / 10 pass type O and they will have a big year. The questions people should be asking is about the improvement of the D. Will UGA be able to stop people with our new 3-4 D? If the D can hold up and Bobo understands he needs to “Run-the-State” then this years team will serve up a 10-2 record for sure. The QB will be handing off this year, thus it could be Gray, Murray, Mason or even AJ Green starting at QB this year….Come on Dawg fans didnt you watch the GT game? “I RUN THIS STATE”. Go Dawgs!
Amazing
April 29th, 2010
3:10 pm
It’s probably a good thing this site is about CMR and UGA football. How negative would it be if we were talking about the Hawks or Braves right now?
DOC REEM
April 29th, 2010
3:12 pm
First of all why do you all even respond to people like “ANGELA”. Not even worth the time so PLEASE just ignore those type of comments that waste blog space.
Secondly if Logan wants to leave then let him leave. It’s kills our depth at the QB position but it also allows us to be very attractive to 2011 QB recruits. Not only that if Hutson Mason can’t learn the plays and hand the ball off then he should’nt have been recruited. This year is about Run Game and Defense. UGA has to re-establish these areas first. Therefore a QB that throws for 3,000 yrds is wish-full thinking. Logan Gray is not an SEC caliber QB and anyone that knows top football can see it. He wasn’t really given the fairest chance but at the same time the kid would not have played at all last year if Aaron Murray would have been healthy at the start of the season. Aaron had a shoulder or elbow problem and therefore he was not asked to play. Another thing is Logan is not as athletic as the coaching staff and the media made him out to be, so a move to receiver might not be the answer either. Just let him go if that’s what he wants to do.
Kip
April 29th, 2010
3:16 pm
I’m not sure Logan believes Richt, because Logan beat out Murray in the 3 spring scrimmages, and still didn’t get named #1 on the dpeth chart. no way Murray’s 2 td/3 int, 3 spring scrimmages performances beat out logan’s 2 td’s, 1 int, 3 spring scrimmages performances, both were same in accuracy, and yards per pass, but Gray was 3x better in td to int ratio, gray also got better over the 3 spring scrimmages, while murray got worse, Gray is more experienced in the system, also it might seen odd to gray that aron whie is also #2 on depth chart, might look like richt’s trying to keep murray happy by naming murray & orson #1 on depth chart, so I’m sure logan is thinking, even if he does 3x better than Murray again, will Richt overrule what happens in the summer public scrimmages? I doubt it.
Buzz Kill
April 29th, 2010
3:24 pm
Angela could use a drink.
Angela says.....
April 29th, 2010
3:27 pm
“Who cares about anything that Mark Richt says? ”
ummmmmmm….you’re here arent you? LOL. too easy.
tide roll
April 29th, 2010
3:30 pm
Richt needs to sell his lake house and quit leaving early to go to his kids jv games. The coaches and players see this and it affects their motivation. Sell the Lake house and do what you’re paid alot to do. I appreciate uga pulling jonathan owens and ben jones out of alabama and letting us have james carpenter and chance warmack out of georgia. Nice. Also the entire sec appreciates you moving Kiante Tripp and bean Anderson from the ol. Nice. Roll Tide.
Portland Dawg
April 29th, 2010
3:31 pm
Kip…. thats true but for whatever reason Richt seems to like what he’s seeing out of Murray more. I dont think we should spculate what White, Murray, Gray, Charles, Richt MIGHT be thinking. We are on the outside looking in. Most of us noly know what we read in the papers and what a friend of a friend told us.
patrick
April 29th, 2010
3:32 pm
Angela???
under Richt
He is 24-7 against the SEC West.
He is 28-16 against the SEC East.
He is 38-4 against nonconference opponents.
He is 8-1 against Georgia Tech.
He won four of his first five games against Tennessee, but has lost three of the last four against the Vols since then.
Ranks third in winning percentage among active college coaches that have coached for at least five years, now that Pete Carroll left USC for the NFL’s Seattle Seahawks.
He is 90-27, trailing only Urban Meyer (96-18) and Bob Stoops (117-29)
Mark Richt is one of only six coaches to win two SEC football championships in their first five years coaching. He is also one of only five head coaches in SEC history to record four straight 10-win seasons
Coach Richt’s Red and Black outfits have never posted a losing record in conference play and six of his last eight squads have finished 6-2 or better in regular-season SEC contests.
.
Mark Richt’s overall success in Southeastern Conference action—including two SEC titles, three conference championship game appearances, and four finishes of no worse than tied for first place in the East, with no losing records in the process—is without parallel in Georgia football history.
There are those in Bulldog Nation who would like to see Mark Richt run out of town on a rail. Such people should be turned over to the custody of Mike Leach, in the hope that he will treat their obvious head trauma the way he treated Adam James’s
.
You are a gosh darn genius Gump
Frank Lane
April 29th, 2010
3:37 pm
Attention Coaches. “Remember Hines Ward” Played receiver, running back, and quarterback as needed. Went on the MVP in Super Bowl. Put Gray on field in various positions.
DawgBuzz
April 29th, 2010
3:39 pm
Really, playing both QB’s going into the season needs to happen. There is no depth there. Naming one ahead of the other might light a fire but I don’t see where one has out distance the other.
jzdawg
April 29th, 2010
3:53 pm
If Gray transfers can we secretly dress out David Green and Eric Zeier as backups? Or Aaron’s brother Josh is a senior walk-on safety on the defense – he was a shortstop in minor league baseball so surely he has a good arm?
Mike in the SAV
April 29th, 2010
3:57 pm
I didn’t forget about UT- seems like they had a couple of BB players arrested this year and UF…I can’t recall.
Point is College kids drink and do stupid things. That will never ever change.
Church of the Latter Day Dude
April 29th, 2010
3:58 pm
Does this place look like I’m *ing married?
Do you see a wedding band on my finger?
The toilet lid is up, man.
The Ghost of Wally Butts
April 29th, 2010
4:01 pm
This issue will become more and more prevelant. These kids have grown up in the “everybody gets a trophy for participating” generation. They don’t understand the old fashioned “the best players get to play” routine.
It’s interesting as heck to see them continue to get pampered in college, then go to the NFL and have reality hit them right in the mouth.
WIll
April 29th, 2010
4:03 pm
The dirty little secret most people don’t understand because too many focus on trivial bs like who got a minor in possession and so on but let me tell you this because I know……. UGA is going to have a helluva football team in 2010. Our defense is stacked and finally we have some coaches who will play the best 11 that we have. Washaun and AJ are future top 5 picks and our offensive line will gel and get better every game. Do not think for a second that this UGA team does not have the talent to win every game this season- including UF??? Because my friends let me tell you, UGA is stacked and talented at every position. I look for an amazing 11-1 run and a National Coach of the Year award for CMR. And for the Bama nerd who always puts down Bean Anderson- that man is going to be a beast at NG so shut up and go away.
can anyone say conspiracy...
April 29th, 2010
4:05 pm
WOW Kip, so you think it’s a conspiracy against the Missouri boys do ya!
Really statistics don’t tell the whole story, but here goes…
RECEIVING GP-GS No. Yds Avg TD Long Avg/G
———————————————————
Orson Charles 13-3 23 374 16.3 3 44 28.8
Aron White 13-12 13 198 15.2 4 27 15.2
There’s plenty of playing time on this team, so don’t get hung up on who is starting and who isn’t. Two quality TE’s is a nice problem to have. However, if you insist on pushing a conspiracy, then you might want to get some tin foil for the top of your head; just to be safe so that no one is reading your thoughts and stealing some of these great conspiracy theories!
gdawginkalamazoo
April 29th, 2010
4:06 pm
Frank Lane, you forgot to mention that Hines is probably heading to the Hall of Fame.
Lilburn Dawg
April 29th, 2010
4:09 pm
If David Green goes back to graduate school at UGA, would he be eligible to play some more football???
ozzfest
April 29th, 2010
4:11 pm
EVERY OTHER YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME RICHT COMMENTS “WE SURE ARE SHORT AT X POSITION THIS YEAR”.
SOMEHOW I DOUBT NICK SABAN HAS EVER UTTERED THOSE WORDS.
HOW DO WE END UP WITH NO OL (2003), NO RUNNING BACKS (2004) AND NOW NO QBS (2008 & 2009)?
KSU OWL
April 29th, 2010
4:11 pm
It really doesn’t matter who the backup QB is this year because UGA will focus on the run until Murray gets a little experience under his belt. I’m sure Mason knows how to hand it off if he’s #2.
LCDawg
April 29th, 2010
4:13 pm
How fast is Logan Gray i.e. 40 time?
1eyedJack
April 29th, 2010
4:13 pm
No doubt exists that all women are crazy; it’s only a question of degree. Women should be obscene and not heard.
LCDawg
April 29th, 2010
4:13 pm
ozzfest, it’s straight up poor recruiting
Zach Mettenburger
April 29th, 2010
4:14 pm
I think Logan should transfer. I’m mulling over where I should go next. Logan, to his credit, is a better dancer than Aaron Murray. He and I used to Tango alot. I think UGA will compete for the SEC title next year. I’ll be playing football on Madden’s NCAA 2010. I’m really good.
How2fish
April 29th, 2010
4:23 pm
Mike in the SAV yeah UT had the BB players but also 3 football held up a 7-11 and the safety just got a DUI and UF had some player who thought girls are punching bags..and yes all schools have players drinking and doing dumb stuff…and Gosh I was such a level headed kid at that age NOT..LOL
coachdawg 2000
April 29th, 2010
4:23 pm
Look, Logan Gray is experienced depth. It is great to have but was Joe T’s “experience in the program” any help against UF in 2005 when Shockley went down. The only TD pass was thrown by Thomas Brown. If he wants to go play the shotgun-spread at Jax State or somewhere else then so be it otherwise make him a slot receiver/ wild-dog gimmick guy. I don’t care about him (or Mettenberger) being on the QB depth chart becuase it has been obvious that Aaron Murray is the guy.
How2fish
April 29th, 2010
4:24 pm
ozzfest you get the moron of the first water award for today…Enjoy !
1eyedJack
April 29th, 2010
4:26 pm
Logan is 4.4 I believe.
Jerry
April 29th, 2010
4:30 pm
Murray was promised the starting job if he would commit to Georgia. CMR is just honoring the pledge he made to the young man. That is much more important than who is the most qualified and skilled candidate for the job.
TD
April 29th, 2010
4:31 pm
First of all….. good job Patrick.
Secondly, for those jumping off of the CMR wagon, please don’t jump back on when you find that you were wrong. There won’t be room for you then!
Lastly, Angela, you are truly an idiot!
BobDawg
April 29th, 2010
4:37 pm
I like CMR’s handling of Logan Gray…other coaches Spurrier,Saban,Jowlson…err Johnson to name a few would act like children who had their candy stolen. CMR’s comments about these matters normally staying quiet are true and I hope that Logan will make the right decision for himself. As for miss Angela and dixieclear pay no attention…I would bet they are Ramble on and yellow fuzz’s drag alter egos.
Dawg Logic
April 29th, 2010
4:40 pm
Come on everybody, this goes on at EVERY campus in the country. Football players can be young and foolish just like any other college student. I’ll bet that if you kicked out every student that underage drank a time or two or a hundred or went to bars or smoked a little weed, all you’d have left is professors, administrators and groundskeepers. So folks, lets be understanding and please keep this in mind when we are judging programs EXCEPT at the University of Florida where every player should be suspended for life, the coaching staff fired and Urban Meyer tarred and feathered. I think that’s only fair…
Shreveport Sam
April 29th, 2010
4:40 pm
Whatever the case, it’s the coach’s responsibility to staff the team properly and have contingency plans in place when the unexpected happens. Re Logan Gray, no one should fault him for any decision he makes after being forced to sit on a bench and watch Joe Cox play for a full season, talk about demoralizing!
Big B CH 99
April 29th, 2010
4:41 pm
Anyone that thinks Richt needs to go has lost their mind, there is almost no chance of getting anyone better than him.
He’s hands down the best coach UGA’s had since Dooley, remember folks the period between Dooley & Richt was mediocre at best.
You could make the argument Richt is the best coach they’ve ever had, b/c Richt hasn’t had the luxury of having a Herschel to run the ball & Erk Russell as DC. Vince was about to get fired before Herschel came, & never would’ve won anything w/o Herschel & Erk.
But as a Tech fan (student) please go ahead and can Richt.
TRC
April 29th, 2010
4:42 pm
Why is it that people on these blogs think that having inexperience at the QB position is uncommon. Every four years or so there is going to be a freshman or 5th year first time starter at QB (such as David Greene, D.J. Shockley, Matt
Stafford- were you upset with the inexperience of these guys). Usually those 5th year guys don’t have enough relevant experience to call them “experienced.” To have young QBs is not a coaching failure. It just means the good experienced guys have moved on, sometimes early (i.e. Stafford). UGA is not even remotely close to being the only school with inexperience at QB (see Tennessee, Florida, and Auburn, for example). That’s why it is good to have a good team around them. Everybody needs to stop worrying and have faith in the abilities of Aaron Murray and his backup, whether it be Gray or Mason. Every freshman must have his day, it’s part of the game.
Ace
April 29th, 2010
4:49 pm
So how did the program lose direction so bad and quick? Will they ever break back into the top 25 with the current leadership? I would think they would want to win championships. Fans must be content.
italian_29
April 29th, 2010
4:59 pm
Coach Dawg 2000, I think the concern is, what happens if Murray gets hurt? We all know he is the guy, but he is coming off an injury and we need to have a back up, just in case. I agree that Murray is the guy and I think the Dawgs are going to suprise some teams this year. As far as “Angela” that is a techie dude that is pretending and that will probably be as close as he get to having a “girl”. There are several other, “girls” that post on the Dawg sites that are the same dude using a different “girl” name, “Dixie” is another. If you ignore them, they eventually go away. GATA DAWGS!!!!!
TRC
April 29th, 2010
5:00 pm
Ace, UGA has only been out of the top 25 for a year, don’t get ahead of yourself. That and UGA finished the year running all over the in state rival, a bowl win (unlike tech) and a fourth straight over Auburn for good measure. That is not losing direction as badly as you are suggesting.
Delusional Dawg
April 29th, 2010
5:02 pm
CMR’s statements smack of desperation. NOW he wants to open things up and present alternatives. First of all, what was the need to declare a #1 QB if the competition is truly wide open in the fall??? Especially when there was not any real seperation between the two of them (based on the scrimmages). #1) that does NOT promote competition or give any extra incentive to get better over the next few months. #2) Somebody is bound to get discouraged or even unhappy and want to go elsewhere. And that’s exactly what happened! DUMB DUMB move by the H.C.
258DAWG
April 29th, 2010
5:06 pm
To all those haters out there that believe UGA is a bunch of THUGS/ALCOHOLICS, I wonder if they go on UF blogs and call them a bunch of DRUG ADDICTS/POT HEADS.
I suppose you can’t win everyone over, and I hope they make it back to their own teams blog to clean out their own closets. Every team has it own vices.
GO DAWGS 2010 SEC CHAMPS, I’m looking forward to hearing from you soon LeMay
ugaaccountant
April 29th, 2010
5:07 pm
Shreveport Sam
April 29th, 2010
4:40 pm
Whatever the case, it’s the coach’s responsibility to staff the team properly and have contingency plans in place when the unexpected happens. Re Logan Gray, no one should fault him for any decision he makes after being forced to sit on a bench and watch Joe Cox play for a full season, talk about demoralizing!
Please explain to me how we don’t have a “contingency plan” at qb?
1st – Our starter is here and healthy and ready
2nd – we have a backup that passed for 5000 yards last year in high school. he’s not even rusty yet.
3rd – we have several high school qb’s walking on
and
4th – there’s a dang good chance we’re getting a committment tommrow from the best high school QB in the country.
ugaaccountant
April 29th, 2010
5:09 pm
Delusional Dawg
April 29th, 2010
5:02 pm
CMR’s statements smack of desperation. NOW he wants to open things up and present alternatives. First of all, what was the need to declare a #1 QB if the competition is truly wide open in the fall??? Especially when there was not any real seperation between the two of them (based on the scrimmages). #1) that does NOT promote competition or give any extra incentive to get better over the next few months. #2) Somebody is bound to get discouraged or even unhappy and want to go elsewhere. And that’s exactly what happened! DUMB DUMB move by the H.C.
I agree with your name. You are delusional. You would rather have rampant media speculation all year and conspiracy theories about who is #1 on our depth chart? That’s really what you want? If so, you’re not only not a dawg fan, you’re not even a college football fan because no coach worth a dime would run his team that way.
angela=st.simons
April 29th, 2010
5:17 pm
I hope Gray stays even though I think Aaron Murray will be a great quarterback. I’d like to see CMR and Bobo try to find some ways to get Gray the ball. I would love to see him run in space. As far the CMR haters go — coach long enough and you will have some down stretches. Bear Bryant had a rough three year stretch himself. By todays standards Bama fans would have been calling for his head. He the proceeded to field some great teams. Saban’s a heck of a coach but go see how many mediocre seasons (at least by the standards of the some of the doofuses who post here) that he has gone through. The margin is razor thin. Richt has been saddled with a DC who was out of his depth. If Grantham fixes the defensive problems Georgia will be plenty tough.
Mike
April 29th, 2010
5:17 pm
I agree with Kip. Something doesn’t add up because Gray CLEARLY outdueled Murray over the 3 spring scrimmages. Coach Richt is picking the depth chart by where they were ranked coming out of high school, versus how they did over the 3 srpring scrimmages. And, as Joe Cox proved, that’s a risky way to do it because you can be undefeated in high school and have mind blowing high school stats, and flop in the college game at QB and go 8-5. Logan got ripped off based on his perfromances over the spring scrimmages, Murray was given the top slot, UNEARNED. Coach Richt might get burned for not being fair. If Murray wass #2 based on th spring scrimmages, Murray wouldn’t have left, because Murray would have deserved it. But Logan? Not fair, and Richt might have to pay for it.
Richt could easily lose the whole team here after shafting Mett and Logan, top 2 QB’s in spring scrimmages, unless Murray convinces his teammates he’s ‘the man for the job’, although he finished LAST in the 3 Spring scrimmages out of the 3 QB’s, somehow, based on something he did back in high school, but can’t seem to duplicate in college, he should be followed?????
dawg85
April 29th, 2010
5:23 pm
Brilliant analysis. Mark Richt is going to play the worst quarterback. That makes a lot of sense. Three scrimmages does not equal a whole spring and I don’t think the stats show that Gray clearly outplayed Murray.
RJ DAWG
April 29th, 2010
5:25 pm
kip know ur facts before you show how stupid you are.the first scrimage Murray threw 2 td’s and one 1 int the second scrimage Murray threw for 1 td and a int.yes Murray had a bad Gday.but kip you were not at every practice and I’m a sason ticket holder for the last 15 years and have inside connections and Murray out performed logan grey 95 percent of the time in practice.so thats why logan is not a head of murray after spring.logan grey can blame himself for where he is on the second unit!!!
AltamahaDawg
April 29th, 2010
5:25 pm
Kip, why do fans insist on frustrating themselves needlessly about things that they do not understand? Why do fans insist on getting answers to questions that do not exist?
Here is the problem: You can never expect somebody else to take the action that you expect if they do not see things the way that you see them. You have an opinion on which of those guy would represent a better chance at being sucessful as a starting QB at UGA. That’s great. Absolutely great to have an opinion. BUT you just can’t quite bring yourself to just come out and say in public that you think you know QB’s better than Mark Richt. I assume it’s because you realize how that sounds, but whatever the reason. Instead you go down this path where he must thinkand see what you do (thus you avoid admitting the above) But he just acts inappropriately on that, which you can easily get away with critisising.
But your opinion (that Gray would be a better QB) is not a fact. And if that is not a fact, than any conclusions drawn from that are pure speculation too. And if the conclusions are shaky, then how on earth do you expect Richt’s responce to that to be defined in your way?
I can think of 3 or 4 things right now that you have absolutely no point of reference in, in regards to picking a #1 QB. I’d be glad to discuss those, But lets just start with the premise that the head coach is not trying to lose football games shall we?
no,no,no
April 29th, 2010
5:32 pm
No Mike, Murray wasn’t outdueled by Gray in the 3 scrimmages, only the G-day game.
Scrimmage #1: Aaron Murray 10-15, 125 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Logan Gray 6-14, 37 yards, 3 sacks
#2: Aaron Murray: 13 of 19, 1 interception, 159 yards, 1 TD
Logan Gray: 7 of 11, 111 yards, 1 TD
Do some research
RJ DAWG
April 29th, 2010
5:34 pm
kip and mike u are wrong.logan grey’s first scrimage was awfull he was like 7 or 9 completions for like 40 yards.murray in his first scrimage completed like 14 passes for 150 yards and 2 td’s and rushed for over 40 yards.so logan clearly was not the best and i have inside info murray was better 95 percent of the time.
Delusional Dawg
April 29th, 2010
5:36 pm
ugaaccountant…Plenty of coaches, in abscence of a clear leader in the spring, would NOT feel compelled to name a #1 and then on top of all that essentially declare that it really means nothing because even high schooler Mason could come in the fall and snatch the starting job. I mean, what’s the logic?? Now what has happened as a result is that Gray feels like he CAN’T win the job, even with an equal or superior performance. Mr accountant, what that all adds up to is a player who feels like he’s really not gonna get a legitimate shot so it’s time to go. How would you feel if you were right there or maybe even a little bit more productive that somebody at work, yet they were getting the opportunities or a promotion. Probably underappreciated, I’ll bet And actually, Logan DID outperform Murray in the spring game.And numbers wise, in the overall scrimmages. And that Mr. accountant DOES NOT add up! So who is delusional here?? Certainly not Logan Gray if he decides to transfer.
UGAgrad71
April 29th, 2010
5:39 pm
I wish you had to have a (proven) football IQ to post here. Most of what I read here smacks of the lack of any real knowledge or understanding how a football team is built and coached. Every year there is an area – OL DL RB DB etc that presents the coaching staff with challenges and issues to solve. Maybe if UGA could offer 100 scholarships a season and not 85 total, then we might have the depth that everyone wants UGA to have. This is not just UGA, every school out there and it’s players and coaches have personnel and depth issues. Coaches, like cream will rise to the top.
Logan Gray
April 29th, 2010
5:43 pm
How about I stay and CMR and CMB transfer?
Dawggrl
April 29th, 2010
5:45 pm
What about this scenario – UGA is obviously doing some things different with their recruiting this year after what was considered a lackluster class on signing day. Perhaps the Logan Gray rumor was put out there so LeMay will commit to UGA tomorrow? Think of how all of this is progressing, Mett gets dismissed and LeMay says UGA is hot on his list. Then all the sudden Logan is thinking about transferring and LeMay is going to commit on the 30th. Now Richt pledges to find Logan a position because we want him to be a Dawg. I wouldn’t be surprised if tomorrow LeMay commits to UGA and then all the sudden we here that Gray is at WR and still taking some reps as QB until Mason arrives.
Deputy Dawg
April 29th, 2010
5:47 pm
This season is already in the toilet boys…….lets look forward to next year with CMR gone! I cannot stand another bowl game in Shreveport.
Adam
April 29th, 2010
5:49 pm
Sure, Richt is ranking the QB’s on their high school hype, but that’s his perogative. I agreee that’s unfair to guys that were told otherwise, but it is what it is, that’s what Richt chose to do after Murray finished last in the spring scrimmages. I anticipated Richt would do that after the whole Joe Cox selection process. I fear Mett and Logan anticipated the 3 spring scrimmages really didn’t matter in the end, if so, sad.
Delusional Dawg
April 29th, 2010
5:50 pm
If LeMay commits tomorrow I will make this prediction…within 2 years Murray will be enrolled at USF as a transfer.
AltamahaDawg
April 29th, 2010
5:51 pm
Any number of things are more are more plausible than Richt simply wanting the worst choice.
1. The most obvious. Maybe Murray had a really bad G-day game. Maybe tomorrow Gray would. So all we KNOW for sure from this is that Gray had a better G-day game, and we know nothing else from this. We don’t play 12 G-day game this season.
2. Maybe the other 2 scrimmages didn’t look like the G-day game. maybe because they were private the defense actually did show something. How many quotes did we read from the linemen about the defender coming from all directions? Did they do that in the G-day game? No. Possibly that was a more realistic look. Better be more to it for real than WE saw. I would hope the offensive plays were more creative and than the G-day game, or we are in trouble on both sides.
3. Passing stats are a PART of the game, but reading defences and knowing when not to pass is at least as big IF NOT bigger. Who reads the defence better? do you know? Who actually had better running behind him in scrimmages and simulation as a result? do you know? who calls the right play more often?
4. Drills, test (written and video), physical evaluations. They do it all the time. Who scores higher? do you know? Gray has been in the program several years, and Murray into his second. Somebody probably know who does better by now.
5. Some folks coach football game for a for a living, some folks watch football games for recreation.
Adam
April 29th, 2010
5:53 pm
What other coach runs a non-merit based selection process? This is bizarre.
dawg85
April 29th, 2010
5:53 pm
The logic, delusional dawg, is that Richt said that competition was still open in Summer and that Gray would still have a shot to win the job. Also — the thought that Richt is going to start the lesser quarterback is a little delusional in and of itself. I’m sure glad coach Richt didn’t drop David Greene because he had a bad G-Day game. You have not seen every practice and every scrimmage You see one little piece of the puzzle and think that Richt is giving Gray the shaft? Personally I like what I saw in Murray at the G-day game. Not based on stats but on knowing a little something about football. The kid has a strong arm, quick release and good legs. Barring injury he will be a great quarterback. And besides that, plenty of players don’t win the starting job and don’t transfer. I like Gray but there’s a bit of an issue there.
dawg85
April 29th, 2010
5:55 pm
Adam — your post is bizarre. Explain to me how you know what criteria Richt used to put Murray at 1?
Delusional Dawg
April 29th, 2010
6:02 pm
dawg85…. you say “Richt said that competition was still open in Summer and that Gray would still have a shot to win the job”. Well, it’s obvious that Logan Gray didn’t get the memo…
AltamahaDawg
April 29th, 2010
6:02 pm
In reality Gray was better one time, out of three scrimmages. Go ahead and add up the combined stats if you really truly think, in real football game terms thats how it works. Cox should have been undefeated if that was the case.
Some of Stafford best games he had very meager numbers.
AltamahaDawg
April 29th, 2010
6:04 pm
Adam????
Lisa
April 29th, 2010
6:10 pm
Mike in the SAV
Aligning Georgia arrests with the least common denominator of other teams with crimes isn’t exactly a way to make Georgia look better. 105 arrests is pathetic for Athens football team.
Shreveport Chamber of Commerce
April 29th, 2010
6:26 pm
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IkeW in Sav
April 29th, 2010
6:31 pm
Am I the only one that is wondering what is going on in the athletic dept. in Athens. I’ve followed UGA football,basketball and baseball for over 30 years and have never seen the program in this shape. Our recruiting at all levels have fallen off drastically.
SOOHSO
April 29th, 2010
6:41 pm
Ninety-oneth or close. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Gen Neyland
April 29th, 2010
6:47 pm
The situation began when two top rated QB’s signed with UGA so close in eligibility status. Can’t blame CMR for that as he was just loading up. Gray knew he’d be in a fight for the QB position at some point at this level so to feel dissed shows me a lack of character on his part. Going forward, what’s the next step..? Slot receiver, DB..? Punt and KO return specialist..? When one signs a recruit, one signs an ego to boot. It’s CMR’s problem and in the end, it may not be a problem at all…
Shane
April 29th, 2010
6:59 pm
UGA Fans……..book your travel plans now for the Independence Bowl in December. Motel 6 has added some trailers outback to handle the expected overflow UGA crowd. Waffle House is now taking advance reservations. Don’t delay….Book Today! Nothing says UGA football like Shreveport in December!! Go Dawgs!
90 wins in 9 years will make em jealous of our program doesnt it boys. I love the haters on here . I say the more the merrier. The more other fans come to this blog just means we are doing something right.
AltamahaDawg
April 29th, 2010
7:00 pm
I thought our basketball recruiting is going up. Kind of difficut to judge being the coach has been here one year. My guess is it certainly going to BE better. Not really much of a baseball recruiting guru, but I dont know if anyone is really attributing this one year to a downhill trend, are they? Down year last year in football , but that’s one year. And rare. Sounds likes we are lined up for a very good year this year.
Kinda painting with a pretty broad brush arent you IKE?
allen
April 29th, 2010
7:02 pm
angela- CMR makes about 3 million $ for being stupid- how much do you make for being stupid?
PT
April 29th, 2010
7:20 pm
I think Mark Richt became a little complacent with the football program. There are many areas that need to be addressed. He has started with the coaching staff and now this spring with recruiting. It will take time to repair the damage. The bad thing is this is a better league this year and it will continue to improve. We’ll see what happens.
Adam
April 29th, 2010
7:22 pm
If Richt thinks a guy who averages 1 int for every 19 passes (Murray over 3 spring sacrimmages), is better than a guy who averages 1 int for every 36 passes (gray over 3 spring scrimmages), and Richt prefers a guy who averags 1 td for every 28 passes (Murray), over a guy who averages 1 td for every 21 passes (Gray), then, yeah, looks crazy to most people.
Yeah, td to int ratio is where it’s at. Joe Cox’s was abut 1.6 last year, compered to Bama’s guy around 4.25. Tebow was 5 td to int ratio. td to int ratio is BIG, and Logan’s was 3x better than Murray’s.
You won’t win more than 6 games with Murray’s .67 int ratio, that’s 2x worse than Joe Cox’s. You can win 10 games with Logan’s 2.0 td to int ratio, UGA got 8 wins with a 1.6 td to int ratio last year, so Logan’s is about 25% better = 25% more wins = 10 win season. I can’t possibly overstate just how truly pathetic a .67 td to int ratio is—the best way of explaining it is to say it’s 2x worse than Joe Cox. Hard to fathom.
Coffee Bluff DAWG
April 29th, 2010
7:24 pm
angela
No one in Dawg Nation is pleased with the dismissals this year but unless you’ve lived a sheltered life it should be obvious that dismissals happen at virtully all D1 schools.
“He’s a complete disgrace and should be fired…” What? Looks like you don’t know much about coaches either.
What??
April 29th, 2010
7:25 pm
Enough already!!
Does everyone have to respond to Angela??!!
How about Richt and Logan having this disconnect?? Why didn’t Logan mention his desire to leave before he got beat by AM?? Richt has gotten the short end of the stick by a student ath. that thinks he is all of that, when in fact he is not.
Logan, the skinny white boy that can not take a hit, is fast and looks good as long as he doesn’t get slammed. Then again, he can not throw the ball, only run. How about his skill to read the D??
The boy is not at the caliber that AM is and never will be.
Richt is too loyal to players that just do not have “IT”! (see COX!)
how2fish
April 29th, 2010
7:29 pm
Lisa uhhh that 105 was for all those schools listed…you must be in the MBA program on North Ave.
What??
April 29th, 2010
7:32 pm
Lisa uhhh??!!
What??
April 29th, 2010
7:33 pm
You all are idiots for taking the bait!
Gratefuldawghead
April 29th, 2010
7:38 pm
Stay and Play Gray!
sad state
April 29th, 2010
7:50 pm
sigh! When will things get any better for my sports teams???????????
Hmmm…maybe UGA should play the Braves in baseball> somebody
is bound to win….right?
Coffee Bluff DAWG
April 29th, 2010
7:55 pm
I like that Logan’s been a team player by returning punts, etc. However, I don’t see him beating out AM or maybe any other talented QB currently being recruited.
What??
April 29th, 2010
8:08 pm
Team player??
What exactly is a “team player”?
Someone who is not a starter or gifted enough to start.
The flip side of that thought process is, Lets play a kid who is an athelete that can make plays on special teams.
Whne did LG return a punt for yardage that counts or a TD??
He has not!!
This crap of playing a player who is not capable of making plays just because he was “there” is BS
Alaska Dawg
April 29th, 2010
8:21 pm
Nice work on your facts Angela………Not!! You are an idiot without a clue. The Dawg nation is proud to have Richt at the helm. Go back to GT and mourn the fact that the Dawgs own the Jackets.
Adam
April 29th, 2010
8:44 pm
Richt advised his own son to transfer to get more playing time, his son transferred form Clemson to Mars Hill, so I thought Richt would advise Gray to transfer, since that’s what he advised his own son to do. Not so much. So, if it’s his son, transferring makes sense, if it’s a guy he needs as a back-up, Richt tries to persuade him to stay. Sorry, seems a little too much into self-interest to be believable.
http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/041609/bre_429977517.shtml
SOUTHGADAWG88
April 29th, 2010
8:53 pm
Gray is too slender to be a good WR..maybe if he had played the position a couple of seasons it would make sense.I don’t see him beating out any WR on the roster right now.
Adam
April 29th, 2010
8:54 pm
Logan went 9 for 13 last g-day, and had a good g-day again this year. that’s 2 years in a row, gray beat out his competition, and didn’t win the #1, last year it was cox, this year he beat murray, both times, richt seemed to say logan only plays great when the pressure’s on and it’s a big game–like g-day. and murray chocked on the biggest stage of his short UGA career so far. richt’s explanations for why we should all discount gray’s last 2 g-days, and why we shoud all add to murray’s g-day bomb, sound more hallow every time richt tries to weasel out of it.
AltamahaDawg
April 29th, 2010
8:57 pm
What explaination was that?
SouthSide Dawg
April 29th, 2010
9:00 pm
Can we just lower the drinking age to 18 and be done with it? Geesh.
AltamahaDawg
April 29th, 2010
9:02 pm
And I guess we can conclude that Tommy Bowden was not the reason that Logan Gray came to Georgia?
dawg85
April 29th, 2010
9:09 pm
Okay Adam –your only criteria is a three controlled scrimmages. You discount all the time the coaches spend with these guys in practice. I suspect Coach Richt can probably do a better job than you of picking the quarterback. You really believe that Richt is going to let the best quarterback ride the bench because of favoritism?
delusional dawg– whether Gray got that or not doesn’t matter. CMR said that all positions are still up for grabs. If you think you can win the job don’t run away.
SOUTHGADAWG88
April 29th, 2010
9:09 pm
I remember a guy who was flat out awful in his first 3 springs games…a kid named David Greene.
j
April 29th, 2010
9:13 pm
Angela, I bet you were one of the 300 at the Tech spring game (which was called at the half due to 1/2 inch of rain).
UGaEXPERT
April 29th, 2010
9:15 pm
here’s a ? for you “logan gray” then who would coach the team? not your fat ass.
Adam
April 29th, 2010
9:15 pm
Richt’s explanation was that Logan played ABOVE his norm, Mett played WAY ABOVE and Murray played BELOW his norm. Richt knows the stats from the 3 spring scrimmages say Gray deserves it, so he’s trying to discount Logan’s stats and AUGMENT Murray’s stats from the 3 spring scrimmages because those stats don’t back up Richt’s decision. Unfortunately, you can’t do that. The stats don’t change, because they don’t fit what we thought SHOULD have happened.
Richt also explained the decision was based on accuracy, and decision making. But 1 int on g-day for murray vs. 0 int for Gray–decision making? Accuracy 45% in g-day for Murray vs. 64% for Gray on g-day? Some of Murray’s previous stats were based on going against the #2 defense, while Logan’s were against the #1. Logan was not happy about that either. Overall, against the #1 defense, with the #1 offense, gray was better over the 3 scrimmages in BOTH accuracy, AND decision making.
G-DAY both Gray and Murray went with the #1 offense, against the #1 defense, same game conditions. Murray didn’t perform well on g-day. Logan did.
Adam
April 29th, 2010
9:19 pm
Did anyone else notice on g-day how many teammates dropped td passes from Murray and made amazing plays for Mettenberger? I find that interesting and wonder why it happened so often.
SOUTHGADAWG88
April 29th, 2010
9:21 pm
Mett is gone who cares?
poopdawg
April 29th, 2010
9:28 pm
Adam get your head out of your ass!
Adam
April 29th, 2010
9:34 pm
Richt has demonstrated a propensity to repeat his mistakes for the last few years (penalties, turnovers, losing to Florida, etc.) He has not for a few years demonstrated he is good at learning from his past mistakes. Past mistake was picking Joe Cox based on his high school pedigree. It didn’t work out well. Now he’s doing the same thing with Murray. and hoping something different will happen this time?
We’ve also had a BRAND NEW QB for 3 years in a row now. That kind of decision making and lack of learning has got to stop.
No, I am not convinced Richt knows how to make those decisions or that he knows how to learn from his mistakes over the past 3 seasons.
cantondawg
April 29th, 2010
9:37 pm
Delusional Dawg,
What a stupid comment..obviously you’ve never played football. You say that Richt should not have named a #1 quarterback because it doesn’t promote competition and may discourage someone..What stupid bs…Players want to know the where they rank on the depth chart and this was only a post spring depth chart. Any real competitor would work harder if they are not #1 and push the first stringer. Someone so sensitive to get upset at not being #1 and not trying harder to become the #1 person shouldn’t even be playing anyway
SOUTHGADAWG88
April 29th, 2010
9:43 pm
So Adam your point is what exactly?You know better than the coaches who should be the starting QB?What insight do you have that makes you a better judge?
GoldenDawg
April 29th, 2010
9:54 pm
What I would like to know is how Saban keeps his kids out of the news. Kids are kids and they are going to get in to some trouble. Some how he keeps it out of the news when it does happen.
MVP
April 29th, 2010
9:54 pm
CHOKE! THE OFFICAL DRINK FOR MARK RICHT!
SOUTHGADAWG88
April 29th, 2010
9:57 pm
UGA kids make the news because we started turning them over to the local police instead of campus police.Local police put all arrest on the internet when you are booked.Adams thought this was a good idea,
Logan did throw 1 pass for a td
April 29th, 2010
10:00 pm
in 2009.
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10:05 pm
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Delusional Dawg
April 29th, 2010
10:18 pm
cantondawg…I’ll bet I’ve played a hell of alot more football than you! I’ll bet you’ve never taped your ankles or strapped on a helmet unless it was your bicycle helmet. I simply have stated logic…that if there was no real pecking order (according to CMR himself), then why pick one?? You say I’m stupid for saying that doing that would discourage competition and make someone want to look around…but isn’t that EXACTLY what has happened??? Here…have another glass of that kool-aid because you must be drinking it heavy if you can’t see what’s right in front of your face!
can anyone say Casey Weldon ...
April 29th, 2010
10:24 pm
Did I not read somewhere that CMR compared Murray’s style of play to that of Casey Weldon; not too bad company to be in. So, you doubters wouldn’t want a Casey Weldon type of QB.
Now to take it in another direction, let’s go back to Joe Cox. God love him because he gave his heart and soul to last years team, but if you recall after the UT game Bobo and CMR were talking of replacing Cox, but changed their mind. Guess who they were going to put in, well it wasn’t Logan, although I think he should have been given some meaningful playing time during the season. It was going to be Murray, until CMR decided that last season was toast and he decided to keep the red shirt on Murray and stay with Cox. Murray could have had 6 sure games and possibly a 7th as a bowl game. Notice Gray wasn’t in any of the equation last year, and rumor had it that he didn’t know the play book, while Murray did. Murray always worked hard, and just maybe Gray was somewhat of a slacker last year. How down would you be if you saw Cox struggle and struggle, yet the coaches still wouldn’t play you. Now you have been working harder this year, but his best just may not be good enough. Maybe, he should transfer and be a starting QB some where, he certainly has earned the right to at least give it a run at a different school.
Adam
April 29th, 2010
11:10 pm
I’d say the Boise St coach did a better job than Richt at picking his QB, penalties, turnovers, forcing turnovers, protecting the ball, beating rivals, than Richt did last year, maybe that guy Chris Petersen, should be #2 on the UGA Depth chart if Richt keeps on making the same mistakes. It’s time for Richt to demonstrate the ability to learn, and stop repeating mistakes, or be replaced by someone that has demonstrated an ability to teach his players how to do these things.
Flo-Ri-Duh!
April 29th, 2010
11:35 pm
For Michael: Richt has never tried to block a player from transferring if that is requested. Blake Barnes was a backup QB that did so a couple of years ago. Besides, if a player wants to transfer the coach cannot make him stay – rules allow for a transfer by any player. However, if they transfer to another division I school they have to sit out a year before playing but if they go to a division II school they can start immediately.
AltamahaDawg
April 30th, 2010
4:47 am
Adam you are just grasping at straws now. THAT is what I find interesting.
AltamahaDawg
April 30th, 2010
5:13 am
Dear Coach, we think not beating rivals is a big mistake. Please stop doing that. Thank you.
Jeff
April 30th, 2010
7:08 am
He needs to make a decision and move on….we dont need this crap of “I am going to transfer if I dont get this…. Sick and tired of it. Our coaches need to focus on geting our QB and team ready for the fall not pacifing a kid that’s feeling are hurt……again…..”Joe Cox gives us our best chance to win” (post UF game- 2009)
Kyle
April 30th, 2010
7:10 am
Agree with the post above…Logan Grey probably has lost his teammates and most of the fans…..what a bunch of crap….man up dude.
Pete
April 30th, 2010
7:13 am
Whether he’s here or whether he’s not here,” Richt said, “we have a tremendous amount of inexperience at the quarterback position.”
Same story…different year……wonder when the coaches will finally “get it”
AltamahaDawg
April 30th, 2010
7:34 am
How is it that folks claim Logan Gray is not starting QB material, and then turn right around and claim Joe Cox should not have starter over him last year?
James T. Kirk
April 30th, 2010
8:10 am
Pathetic. The mutts are crying themselves to sleep over the thought of losing their backup QB. Why not encourage the guy to transfer to real school where he can play against real competition and have a future career in the NFL? If he wants any of that, he’ll come to the ACC where we manufacture QB’s.
dawgma
April 30th, 2010
8:12 am
Who let the shirt on the blog? Angela – guess what? College kids drink and get in trouble – statistically athletes make up far less of the arrests than “normal” college kids. Why – because they are usually a mre disciplined group as a whole.
Go back to baking Ang.
Logan – stay at UGA and enjoy an SEC chmpionship in the next two years.
AltamahaDawg
April 30th, 2010
8:20 am
Pete, what exactly is it that you think they don’t “get”? experienced QB are better? I think maybe they do.
I supose in a perfect world, you could recruit the right guy exactly every 3 years, RS him, get significant PT as a back up the next year, then he takes over and play exactly the next 3, never leave early and the nexy guy comes in as soph and works out perfectly too. I’d sure like to see the list of coaching staff that “get it” and have that system going on all the time.
Richt has been a HC for 9 yrs in 7 of those years he has had multiyear starter at QB. I would argue that DJ was an unusual situation. SO basically ONE year, with Cox (because the sophomore in the above equation, obviously was NOT a better choice) he had a placekeeper. Seems like he is trying to start a new run with a multi-year starter, if you guys can stop making up reasons to cry about it long enough to appreciate that.
AltamahaDawg
April 30th, 2010
8:29 am
I am pretty sure that you guys know angela is a resident at the tech freshman male dorm, right?
Oversight Committee
April 30th, 2010
8:41 am
Give Angela a break guys. She has a valid point. CMR has struggled to win the BIG game. Additionally, until recently, he has been very soft on discipline: i.e. Odell Thurman to name a few. This recent attempt to assert himself as a disciplinarian is a desperate attempt to right a ship that is nearly sunk. I am afraid that this season will be one to remember: inexperienced DC installing a new defense and no seasoned QB = TROUBLE.
David
April 30th, 2010
8:50 am
Maybe CMR doesn’t handle QB’s as well as he has be advertised. Do you guys really trust a thing he says? For example, he is always going to fix the penalty situation. Now that is almost funny.
I would fire him as soon as possible and bring in somebody that is that has a chip on his shoulder.
Otherwise you guys know what is going to happen.
AltamahaDawg
April 30th, 2010
9:19 am
What leads you to believe that he doesnt handle QBs very well? Not even sure the basis for the question. What don’t you believe?
And the penalty situation is a very recent development, no worse than various spans of time under any top coach out there. Do a little research how about.
Chuck Uga
April 30th, 2010
9:20 am
Angela:
You are a simple-minded, uninformed, Obama-supporting moron.
Chuck
Dawg Max
April 30th, 2010
9:48 am
Gray could be the next Casey Weldon if Richt will let him play a couple of quarters each game. Murray’s too short to be the starting QB the whole game.
Coach Paul Johnson
April 30th, 2010
10:04 am
Shreveport C of C,
Tech fans won’t be needing any extra rooms after their bowl game(if we make one, which is highly unlikely). We always lose, get mad and drive home.
RIC FLAIR
April 30th, 2010
10:06 am
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. WASNT A BIG GAME GA VS LSU IN SEC GAME 2005. WE WERE UNDERDOGS IN THAT MATHCHUP. RICHT IS FINE. QUIT ALL THE PANIC. NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS REQUIRE ALOT OF LUCK. GA WILL BE A VERY GOOD BALL TEAM THIS YEAR.
Wisdom comes from older folks
April 30th, 2010
10:50 am
To all the UGA GRADS, do not worry about the UGA haters. They are jealous, stay at home teens, or UNEMPLOYABLE folks, on mom’s PC,banging away on the keyboard, losers. UNEDUCATED LOSERS, I might add.
UGA is fabulous and if you were lucky enough to have matriculated there for your CAREER BUILDING education, you know it. It took me 6 years for my education and I love my memories from the 60s and 70s.
I for one, am honored by the UGA haters …………it proves that they are jealous Of MY university.
Goooooooooooooo Dogs.
PS
Imagine the tan babes walking around campus this afternoon and cruising campus in a convertible and planning a cook out at your fine Athens pad. I did that in my 1960s era Impala convertible with my wife of 35+ years, long ago. THAT IS ONE reason why they hate. The EXCELLENT education is the other.
I retired at 55 from a international firm as a very top level sales/marketing exec and my UGA education made it all happen. That Japanes firm was very impressed with UGA. Very $$ impressed. THIS is another reason they hate UGA………….they have NO EDUCATION, beyond inner city Atlanta H Schools. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAH
30-24 and it keeps on kepping on.
how2fish
April 30th, 2010
10:54 am
James T. Kirk yet again you put your foot in your mouth..which compared to what you put there most of the time ..nevermind..last 2 years a QB was picked No.1 in the NFL and neither played in the ACC.
Old Dawg
April 30th, 2010
11:10 am
Mike in the SAV, I was about to make the same post to Angela. I don’t like the problems with players but it is a fact of life. Have a good one.
SEC East Headlines – 4/30/10 « MrSEC.com
April 30th, 2010
11:18 am
[...] other than quarterback.5. Richt says “this type of thing (players thinking transfer) actually happens a whole lot more than anybody ever knows.”6. If AJ Green doesn’t return punts for UGA this year, it won’t be because of injury [...]
Duke
April 30th, 2010
11:28 am
Richt has lost his touch. Don’t like seeing a new QB every year, not good for continuity, shows a lack of looking ahead. Don’t like Richt picking QB’s who throw too many interceptions—that’s not smart ot overlook the one thing Alabama looks for in a QB–ball protection–maybe that’s why they’re Champs and UGA is Chumps. This is his last year to pull a sudden miracle out of the hat, or time for UGA to move on with coach who knows how to not repeat making same errors every year. It’s one thing to have a new QB every year, for 3 years, it’s another to continue to have problems with penalties, turnovers, and losing to Meyer at Florida–year after year without correct adjustments.
Bad Plans against Florida:
Richt is unable to make a high probability plan against Florida and his plan against Florida
fails 7 out 9 times.
how2fish
April 30th, 2010
11:35 am
Duke CMR is 3-1 against Bama..your next point?
Bill
April 30th, 2010
11:45 am
The Richt haters gripe my backside. I live in the heart of Gator country and us Dawg fans are few and far between, but the comment I hear most about my Dawgs is that we have a good coach who is a class act. I agree.
Our winning percentage during the Richt era is not too shabby and from what I have been reading, justice (not knee jerk reaction) to violating the rules is pretty swift and not always easy.
We have a coach that is respected throughout the country. We should be proud of that. Go Dawgs.
BigTimeTECHFan
April 30th, 2010
11:46 am
Why would he go to receiver, would he even be in the rotation for a top 4 receiver spot? I would think he would have to beat out:
Marlon Brown
Kris Durham
Tav King
AJ Green
Rantavious Wooten
Isreal Troope
If he wants to play. Can he? I don’t knew him that well
How2fish
April 30th, 2010
11:49 am
Bill good points!
Oversight Committee
April 30th, 2010
12:06 pm
Wisdom comes from older folks. 6 years to get your degree? An undergrad degree? Please tell me you begin your name with Dr…..
Numbers
April 30th, 2010
12:31 pm
Apparently CMR has asked Hutson Mason to sitout the rest of the Lassiter Lacrosse season to avoid any chance of an injury. Looks like Coach is protecting his second option (Maybe First IMO). Smart move.
Obvious
April 30th, 2010
12:37 pm
Wisdom comes from older folks
April 30th, 2010
10:50 am
“my UGA education made it all happen. That Japanes firm was very impressed…30-24 and it keeps on kepping on”
Don’t look now but your “UGA education” is showing! Apparently ‘wisdom comes from older folks’ unless they’re UGA grads. LMAO
AltamahaDawg
April 30th, 2010
12:40 pm
What WAS the correct adjustments the Florida game plan Duke? Scoring more points?
I think the problem with some fans is they really do think college football is about pulling rabbits out of hats.
That and they tend to hero worship whoever is hot lately. What Alabama looks for ….geez. How the hell do you know what Alabama looks for?
JMac 01203
April 30th, 2010
12:42 pm
Coach, Tech will again play in a better bowl than the puppy dogs.
Ric, UGA is like the Braves – OVERRATED.
And yes, everyone knows that college kids drink, BUT… when you are in a position of being an athlete on a middle of the road program like UGA, there should be some kind of pride, responsibility and ACCOUNTABILITY that goes along with that. To me, a college athlete that goes out and drinks does not understand his role and his coaches have not done their job by teaching him character. Any athlete that drinks is letting his team down. That is unless alcohol consumption is a part of their training regimen. CMR may be a good man, but he is horrible at translating that to his players, and his players, by their actions, have no respect for their school. That goes for ANY school.
Smitty
April 30th, 2010
12:52 pm
I am tired of Richt doing the same stuff every year, new QB, penalities, turnovers, losing to Florida, absolutely, that needs to change this year, or we need to get a coach in here who has shown good in those areas, like the Boise St. Coach. The hotseat for Richt is getting flaming hot if he has ANOTHER bad year.–in fact, if he starts 4-4 again, he’ll be fired. He’s running out of excuses, AND QB’s.
How2fish
April 30th, 2010
1:07 pm
JMac 01203 Any athlete that drinks is letting his team down??? WTF what planet are you on? Not earth but perhaps Scotty can beam you back someday. A athlete that gets in a fight drunk or gets caught drinking underage etc is letting their team down..but many of the these young men are 21 or older and have every right to drink if they want.
it's gonna be freaking LOUD
April 30th, 2010
1:21 pm
at williams-brice baby! are you ready Mr. Murray? Did you have 80 thousand screaming their lungs out at you at Plant? Did you have one of the top SEC defenses breathing down your neck? A team that was inside the UGA 10 yd line when time ran out in athens last year?
AltamahaDawg
April 30th, 2010
1:40 pm
Smitty, you wouldnt happen to have a couple of alias names in here now would you?
Dawg Max
April 30th, 2010
1:50 pm
South carolina? Get real—the Dawgs, even with freshman murray at QB will beat usc like a rented mule! Garcia’s terrible and spurrier’s 1990 offense doesn’t work anymore. Dawgs win that game easy–mark it down.
Passing time
April 30th, 2010
1:55 pm
Richt doesn’t have to let him out of anything. He is only committed through this year. Football scholarships are annual events. He will have to sit out a year if transferring to a Div 1A school. Richt can only stop him up until spring semester is done.
Les W. Moore
April 30th, 2010
1:59 pm
Atta girl Angela! The boys think it but it took a girl to say it….
Logan Gray should transfer as he’ll never see the field as a QB. Saint Richt plays favorites and he doesn’t play the backup. Which sounds likes a guy who once won a lot of games and a few SEC titles in his first 8 seasons before becomming satisfied with mediocre and undisciplined teams (Phil Fulmer). See Angela was right.
Terry
April 30th, 2010
2:03 pm
JMac 01203, Its the responsibility of the parent to teach their child accountability not a coach, or anyone else, if you wait for your child to get into college before teaching them, then you might as well for get it. And even then you might have a child that has a rebellious nature, and those kind are unreachable they have to learn from experience. And you can not teach character you either have it or not, it all starts at home, sounds like you want someone to raise your child for you. Tell me do you go around blaming everyone else for your actions.
JMac 01203
April 30th, 2010
2:52 pm
Yes it the parents responsibility to teach their kids right from wrong, but that does not release a coach that is in charge of these kids for many months of the year to instill pride in their team and school. Did Zach let his team down?? Yes he did. Age should not play into the equation. An athlete should be accountable for his actions, and going out and getting drunk and doing other things that get him in trouble is nothing more than spitting in the face of his coachs, family and school.It shows a total lack of respect for everyone. Athletes are supposed to have a training regimem and there is no room in that training regiman for alcohol, or for anything that can bring dishonor to them, their families, their team, and their school.
JMac 01203
April 30th, 2010
3:03 pm
and Terry, IF YOU THINK YOU CANNOT TEACH CHARACTER, THEN I MUST QUESTION HOW MUCH YOU HAVE. You are not born with character. Character has to be taught. It must be learned. It must be instilled into a person. Yes it should be taught by family, but it must also be taught by everyone a person comes in contact with. CMR is supposedly a very good Christian person. If that be the case, then he has a responsibility to his players and their families to try to instill character into everyone he comes in contact with. You have no idea what kind of upbringing kids have had. A football coach needs to be a role model for his players, and he should try to instill some pride, responsibility, and accountability into each of the players.
CLEVON LITTLE
April 30th, 2010
3:10 pm
If I was a D-1 player & I new my time was running out to get playing time, I would mull the dicision too.
Ruler Dawg
April 30th, 2010
3:34 pm
How much longer will adams and evans give richt to turn the program around? This is getting old quick. I’m sick of bama and florida winning everything and UGA stuck in minor bowls.
High school grad
April 30th, 2010
3:36 pm
If the drinking age was 18 there would be less problems. More drunks but less problems. Dont you find it kind of a nanny state to tell you can fight a war but can not drink beer, wine, or liquor? Sympathy laws and PC laws over civil rights.
Gatormeat
April 30th, 2010
3:37 pm
Makes no difference if gray stays or not, the Mighty Gators will beat down the dogs down. Again
High school grad
April 30th, 2010
3:38 pm
Well if you do not get to play then your nfl chances for outrageous salaries are nill.
Charles
April 30th, 2010
4:01 pm
Logan Gray beat Murray over the Spring scrimmages overall, so no ownder he feels unfairly treated, especially after his g-day game beatdown of Murray, and Gray has that right–he certainly doesn’t have to play backup when he was a top QB coming out of high school too. It doesn’t make sense to give the #1 on the depth chart to a player who didn’t earn it like Murray. I agree, based on what the Murray kid did back in his high school glory days.
Coach Richt don’t have to name Logan #1 on his depth chart, but Logan don’t have to name Coach Richt #1 on his team depth chart either–both have power, and can use it as they well please. Coach Richt might have underestimated how much power Logan Gray has.
Fed Up
April 30th, 2010
4:02 pm
UGA loses to Florida & Meyer 80% of the time under Richt, so who cares who’s playing quarterback, it won’t make a difference.
Kelton
April 30th, 2010
4:06 pm
Man, all I know is, Aaron Murray not to go figure how to get his guys playin’ hard for him, like they did for Mettenberger, and getting all the guys who keep dropping those pass on baord the Aaron Murray train, that’s what I need to see out of him. Right now, ain’t nobody ridin’ the Aaron murray train.
T'VILLE DAWG
April 30th, 2010
5:21 pm
Angela, it’s frustating somtimes but don’t be like the crowd which asks what have you done for me lately? This fine christian has been an asset to everything Georgia, maybe you should give your total allegiance to the bugs right up the road, as for me and my family we’ll honor the honorable!
AltamahaDawg
April 30th, 2010
5:48 pm
Gray lost to Murray in scrimmages 2 out of 3 times. What makes the 1 time carry more weight?
Since the job at stake is to play in actual games over the cource of the season, the criteria aught to be more reflective of how a season actually works dont you think. you know, on any give day?
If passing stats are all that detemines win and losses, we have some serious record books to rewrite. If “overall” stats and having a great day (and that outweighs others) were the goal, then Joe Cox gets to go back and claim a victory over OSU, because his SC numbers the next week were outstanding. Does anybody consider Cox’ overall passing stats in listing the record for the 2009 season?
Stafford had 3 int one night and won, better stas and lost. When he finally started to be a valuable QB for us, his stats were quite vanilla, but he learned what and when.
I would also offer up the idea that the other scrimmages should carry more wieght. With a new DC frantically trying to install a new defence, you would have to imagine as some point in the spring they actually tried to do some things. Seeing how its widely accepted that G-day was NOT the day they showed anything, then some where in those first 2 closed scrimmages had to be where they ramped up the pressure. Its a fact that Murray had better performances in those, and reportedly the rest of the spring. And then there was the G-day game.
It’s quite possible that the coaches are considering something besides the results from the exhibition scrimmage where the opponent was scripted more than simulated. Obviously that is only a part of the story.
Your Sofa
April 30th, 2010
8:12 pm
TECH FANS: Reserve your new LaZ Boy chairs today as you will be going to lose at seven games without Dwyer in the MIGHTY ACC this year. The new line of LaZ Boy’s have a built in tissue dispenser to insure that after UGA beats you for the 9th time in 10 years, you will be able to wipe your tears with ease!
GO JACKETS! GO FOUR HOTDOGS! GO FOUR COKES! GO (insert lame gimmic here)!!!!!!! GO ALL YOU SCREAMING 20k TECH FANS!!! WOOOOOOO
Tech Stinger
April 30th, 2010
8:21 pm
Tech beats UGA easily this year. Tech will be loaded, Ga has a 5′11″ QB and an overrated D, even with a $750,000 coach! Paul Johnson’s got the date of the UGA game circled on his calendar–the rest of the schedule will be a pretty easy. Tech 33 Dawgs 23—bank on it!
shane#1
April 30th, 2010
8:42 pm
Give me UGA football anytime. It’s the off season and UGA gets more ink than Tech did winning the ACC. Lets face it, CPJ is a good coach, but boring, like Tech’s offense. Give me Stafford and bombs away anytime. Without a ball being snapped we have all this drama. It is good the Dawgs hired a coach from the Cowboys. They were my favorite team in the old days, along with the Raiders. The Steelers won a lot of Super Bowls but they were BORING! You were never bored with “Hollywood” Henderson, “Dandy Don” Meridith, “Big Tooze”, “Snake” Stabler or Lester Hayes. So Techies, if you are tired of that rickety old stadium and half a$$ed fans that sit on their hands come on over to the wild side and live a little. Become a Dawg!
shane#1
April 30th, 2010
8:45 pm
Damn, I forgot the “Stork”! He was another of the Raider’s “misfits”.
AltamahaDawg
April 30th, 2010
9:16 pm
How is the UGA D overrated? by what standard? You just heard somebody use the word overrated and you thought you would give it a shot , eh?
Anyway, Johnson might have it circled, but the only way the average tech fans knows when the game is, will be that they see the Tech game on the Georgia Football Schedule that they all have taped to the wall in thier room.
shane#1
April 30th, 2010
9:19 pm
Hey Alt, GOOD ONE!
shane#1
April 30th, 2010
9:28 pm
Listen up Nerd Trolls, this is not meant for friendly enemies, just trolls. There are four southwest Ga. guys in that defensive backfield. Gamble, Rambo, Nick Williams and Shawn Williams. They get to the ballcarrier quickly and with bad intentions. They all weigh 200 lbs. or better and they will knock your package into the dirt! Rambo played QB in high school running the Ga. Southern system. Be afraid, be very afraid.
Nice Try Richt
April 30th, 2010
9:46 pm
Translation: We’ll dangle the QB carrot in front of the kid as long as we have to. He is never going to be our QB, but it is in UGA’s best interests for him to stay, just in case the other kid goes down. It is a win-win for us. Ultimately, Gray will become a casualty of the “business” and that is not my problem.
Tech Stinger
May 1st, 2010
8:25 am
To keep more good players eligible, Richt and Adams need to lobby the Athens city council for relaxed drinking rules for UGA football players! They must be proactive and take action!!! The Dawg players need to drink and party hard to get ready for practice the next day—the laws must be changed!
Angela
May 1st, 2010
8:58 am
You boys are being ugly with me. All I’m doing is pointing out the many deficiencies at UGA.
Do you want to clean up the place and restore some decency and integrity, or do you just want to shoot the messenger?
It appears that it’s the latter.
Austin
May 1st, 2010
9:29 am
Hey, don’t go blaming everything thats wrong with UGA on CMR. He’s a good guy. Althogh part of the reasson they can’t win any games was because of Willie Martinez who could not get a stop on defense and Mike Bobo passing the bomb every time. He is soooooo easy to read. On first down incomplete pass. Second down and 10 run. and third down short slants or crosses. WE NEED A NEW OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR! NOW!
Forrest Gump
May 1st, 2010
11:03 am
I don’t know why everyone is up in arms over the possible transfer for Logan Gray. The fact of the matter is he had plenty of opportunity to win the starting job at the start of 2009, win the starting job midseason in 2009, and win the job in the spring of 2010. Obviously he is doing something (or not doing something) that indicates to Richt and Bobo that Logan Gray is not capable of being a starting Quarterback in the SEC.
As far as recruiting talent is concerned, I think people forget that 3/4 Quarterbacks that Richt developed at UGA were drafted in the NFL. 2/3 won a SEC Championship and the other was only the #1 draft pick in the 2009 NFL draft. Certainly it would have been nice to have a nice transition between Stafford and Cox, but he did recruit the #3 High School QB in Aaron Murray and Zach Mettenberger to eventually assume the QB duties. It’s not Richt’s fault that Mettenberger is an idiot who can’t keep his hands to himself and lies to the coaching staff about his situation.
As far as winning big games, how quickly people forget about the 4th quarter victories on the road in 2002 against UT and Auburn; or the win in 2008 at a top 5 ranked Auburn team. The last two years were certainly disappointing, but most people (and probably the majority of Richt haters on this site) were calling for Willie’s head. Did he not fire him and replace him with a substantial upgrade (hopefully)????
Anyone who thinks we had a shot of going into the 2010 season as a National Championship contender are absolutely living in the clouds. We have a realistic shot at the SEC East crown; assuming no substantial injuries. But we would be in a helluva situation if Murray were to go down, leaving us stuck with Logan Gray.
And that’s all I have to say about that.
No worries
May 1st, 2010
3:50 pm
Logan gray? What’s the big deal—he’s not that good, couldn’t even beat out a freshman QB—if he leaves, no big deal. The dawgs will be fine at QB with murray and mason from lassiter—he may be better than murray!
Come on Patrick
May 2nd, 2010
2:05 am
I love how Patrick showed all of Richt’s impressive records in bowl games, his impressive records against the SEC and breaks it down to the SEC East and SEC West and even mentions that we have lost a few in a row to Tennessee. If you are going to put these stats down you have to put the bad one down too, otherwise you lose all credibility. I am 100% in support for Richt but you cannot offer all great facts/stats, throw in one not-so-great one and leave out the worst of all. That being of course that Richt is 2-7 vs. jean shorts/mullets/gold chains.
Lane Pimpin
May 2nd, 2010
8:28 pm
This site should be closed until CMR can prove that he is man enough to even be on the same field with Urban. CMR does not win the big ones and he will continue that tradition this year when he drops three during the regular season (if the poodles are lucky) and makes reservations for another mediocre bowl game.
UGA IS ON THE DECLINE
May 3rd, 2010
1:53 am
amen angela!! Just look at the past month for the dawgs…they are all over the news with arrest…CMR is a good guy but he has done a terrible job with players..Just google matt stafford spooning with cox…what a drunk…just like half the team….Say what you want but UGA is not classy at all…
Next
May 3rd, 2010
11:10 am
I’m wondering what the timetable is to get a new article up? it’s Monday.
This article should be wrapping my online fish and chips!