What do Georgia football players make on the SAT? New study reveals answer

For the past year, a University of Georgia committee has been conducting a “self-study” of the school’s athletics program — a review required every 10 years by the NCAA from Division I schools. The resulting report is 148 pages long, and you can read it all here if you like.

Here are a few things that jumped out at me:

  • The report compares the standardized-test scores of UGA student-athletes to the general student population.

All male students who entered UGA in 2007 -– the most recent year covered by the report -– had an average standardized-test (SAT and converted ACT) score of 1250. By comparison, male student-athletes who initially enrolled in 2007 had an average score of 998. Football players had an average of 916 and men’s basketball players 906.

All female students who entered UGA in 2007 had an average standardized-test score of 1201, compared to 1058 for female student-athletes. Women’s basketball players averaged 955.

The report also provides comparisons of standardized-test scores for the general student population and student-athletes in the years 2004-2006.

The averages for all male students were 1245 in 2006, 1254 in 2005 and 1251 in 2004. For male athletes: 1017 in 2006, 1046 in 2006 and 990 in 2004. For football players: 901 in 2006, 935 in 2005 and 893 in 2004.

The report states: “The pool of student athletes capable of competing for NCAA and SEC championships tends to have lower standardized-test scores than the pool of students competitive for admission to the University of Georgia. Variances among sports groups are comparable to similar trends nationally and can be ascribed to differences in demographics among athletes competitive in different sports.”

  • The report shows that Georgia’s athletes continue to trail the general student population in graduation rates. (These figures might be familiar, because graduation rates also are reported annually to the NCAA.)

Among all first-year students who entered UGA from 1999-2000 through 2002-03, 76 percent earned degrees within six years, compared to 57 percent of athletes. Broken down further, the report shows that 51 percent of Georgia’s male athletes, 65 percent of female athletes, 46 percent of football players, 17 percent of men’s basketball players and 63 percent of women’s basketball players earned degrees within six years.

“Graduation rates, particularly in male sports, have been a significant issue for the Athletic Association,” the report states. “Several new polices have been implemented that appear to be responsible for significant improvement in the academic success of all student-athletes.”

  • The report says Georgia has more female than male student-athletes: 51.6 percent to 48.4 percent.

“It is striking for a FBS [Football Bowl Subdivision] athletics program to be majority female,” the report says. “Nationally, only 43.5% of student-athletes at FBS (formerly Division I-A) programs are female.”

Still, UGA has a smaller percentage of female student-athletes (51.6 percent) than of female undergraduates (57.5 percent).

  • The report addresses a myriad of topics, including compliance with NCAA rules and governance of the athletics program. Prepared over the past year by a committee chaired by Rodney Bennett, UGA’s vice president for student affairs, the report is part of the recertification process for NCAA Division I members. UGA posted the report on a Website, www.uga.edu/ncaa_compliance/, and invited public comment by April 30.

“I am pleased to report to you that our committee found that the Athletic Association is one of the strongest in the nation, and remains committed to principles of ethical governance, dependable rules compliance, equity in terms of diversity and gender, and the highest possible level of student-athlete well-being,” Bennett wrote in a cover letter to “the University of Georgia community.”

“I attribute these qualities to an outstanding leadership team and a dedicated group of administrators, coaches, and student-athletes,” Bennett wrote.  “The UGA Athletic Associaton has undergone a substantial culture change since the last self-study was completed, and it has been all for the good.”

225 comments Add your comment

meh

April 21st, 2010
9:42 am

258DAWG

April 21st, 2010
9:46 am

chipperdawg

April 21st, 2010
9:50 am

Worm

April 21st, 2010
9:51 am

Old Wimp Sanderson had the best line about graduation rates..When asked how many of his players graduated,”any of em’ that want to”.

Alphare

April 21st, 2010
9:52 am

Tim, if you just claim to the world that UGA football players are as smart as a log, I don’t blame you at all.

TommyP

April 21st, 2010
9:54 am

Are those SAT scores based on the old scoring system or the new? Aren’t the new scores higher?

At any rate, that’s not bad at all for an athletic department at this level.

CONFEDERATE DAWG

April 21st, 2010
9:54 am

NOT SAYING THIS AS AN EXCUSE, BUT WHEN YOUR A KID AND WE TEND TO FORGET THEY ARE KID. ITS PROB HARD NOT ONLY TO FIND TIME BUT TO REALLY WANT TO FOCUS. IM SURE KIDS WANT TO PASS CLASSES. BUT THEY ARE PROB TOLD THEIR ENTIRE LIVES IF YOU WANT TO PLAY IN 9TH GRADE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS GPA ETC. SO THEY ARENT TAUGHT TO EXCEL TO THEIR HIGHEST POTENTIAL BUT JUST TO HAVE A HIGH ENOUGH GPA TO PLAY THAT SEASON. I MEAN IF GA GOT ALL KIDS THAT AVERAGED 100 POINTS HIGHER ON THEIR SAT SCORE I BET WE’D ALL BE CRYING OUR TEAMS NEED BETTER PLAYERS. ITS A SLIPPER SLOPE. THAT BEING SAID WHEN A KID LIKE CHRISTIAN CONLEY COMES ALONG WITH THE GRADES THE GAME AND THE HUMBLE PERSONALITY IT MAKES THEM ALL THE MORE SPECIAL. GRATEFUL TO BE A DAWG FROM THE SOUTH! SUPPORT CONFEDERATE HISTORY MONTH… PUT THEM GAYTORS IN THE DIRT!!!!!!!!

CONFEDERATE DAWG

April 21st, 2010
9:56 am

KIDS AND SLIPPERY I KNOW

Bryan G.

April 21st, 2010
9:56 am

Boy…if the AVERAGE on the football team is 901…we’ve got some guys who really nailed it with like an 810. Fantastic.

And having said that, I don’t care as long as Mr. 810 SAT plays football hard and represents the University well off the field.

GT BABY

April 21st, 2010
9:57 am

typical sorry a$$ scores

sogadog

April 21st, 2010
9:58 am

How do UGA’s stats you just cited compare to other SEC schools?

Paddy

April 21st, 2010
10:00 am

TommyP…It has to be the old system. If those reflect the new system you could not get into U. of Phoenix.

anotherdawg

April 21st, 2010
10:01 am

I think if you compare UGA student athletes to other SEC schools, you will find the same. In fact, I’m betting it would be the same at all schools, including Tech. I know UGA standards for general admission are very high due to limited space and very high demand.

GiddyAp You Dogies

April 21st, 2010
10:02 am

Why aren’t athletes held to the same requirements as the general student population? There’s quite a difference in the SAT Scores…..are these people being let in just because they’re athletes, minorities or what?

meh and 258DAWG, what were your prizes for being 1st and 2nd?

Bryan G.

April 21st, 2010
10:03 am

Paddy…I taught at U of Phoenix once. Trust me, they let anyone in. ANYONE.

PMC

April 21st, 2010
10:03 am

The SAT is worthless as measure of knowledge. It’s essentially part of the application process to help in the weed out process of admissions to schools who have high rates of application.

Athletes by nature bring a lot more to the school than just a few dollars. Elite Football players make the school millions and millions of dollars which pay for countless scholarships and all the non money making sports. Given the fact that they will have every tutoring opportunity in the world available to them if the player has reasonable qualifiing grades and a reasonable SAT score there is no reason to believe they won’t be able to have success academically in the institution.

athens inbred institute of outhouses

April 21st, 2010
10:04 am

wow those scores have increased since ugay installed computers in all the outhouses

Bryan G.

April 21st, 2010
10:04 am

GiddyAp – Because if they held the football players to the same standards as the rest of the population, we’d be Vanderbilt.

Rabun Dawg

April 21st, 2010
10:08 am

GTBABY, yea, I will bet your glass is always half empty, like your disposition. I’ll bet you even kick your dog on the way out. That old saying, if you cannot say anything nice about someone or something, do not say it! Get a life!!

BigDawg

April 21st, 2010
10:09 am

Not a single surprising thing in the whole article. We have all known for years that many if not most of our football and basketball players are very, very weak academically speaking. It is why a previous coach felt the need to water down his final exam to pathetic levels so the athletes that made up the majority of his class could pass. We should be ashamed for accepting these students into the school but until the NCAA passes legislation that states the football players must average within + or – 10 points of the student body of any college they attend or lose bowl eligibility for that season….This will not change. Indeed it will continue to get worse not better as many families realize that education is no longer optional but mandatory in this technologically filled world of the 21st Century. The general student body at UGA will likely be in the 1300’s on the SAT within a short time frame but our football stars will still be cavemen in the 900’s.

anotherdawg

April 21st, 2010
10:11 am

I’d be willing to bet Vanderbilt’s athletes have a lower score than general student population.

Bryan G.

April 21st, 2010
10:13 am

anotherdawg – they may…but it ain’t 901 low.

Tim Tucker

April 21st, 2010
10:16 am

TommyP: The test scores are based on the old scoring system. They are for the years 2004-07.

anotherdawg

April 21st, 2010
10:17 am

Bryan, no argument there, but I would also bet that admission standards for all students, including athletes is higher now than, say 20 years ago.

Bryan G.

April 21st, 2010
10:18 am

No doubt about that. I went in 1999 and the average SAT was around 1120.

Matthews Dawg

April 21st, 2010
10:23 am

I would bet you are correct “anotherdawg”. Do you all really believe that Tech didn’t lower their standards for their athletes years ago? Sure they did, they wanted to be able to compete at a high level. Nothing wrong with either school wanting to compete and try to win championships. Athletes are focused on the sport they play. It takes a very special athlete to be able to tear it up in the classroom and on the field. At UGA and Tech, they have those types of athletes.

Bryan G.

April 21st, 2010
10:25 am

It’s not just football, folks. Schools lower admission standards for anyone who is some type of “prodigy.”

You could be an outstanding cello player, artist or actor and UGA will let you in with a lower than normal SAT. Part of the mission of a university (especially a state flagship) is to pool together a diverse group of students who are great in many fields.

Rhodes Scholar

April 21st, 2010
10:27 am

All three of my children are or will soon be at UGA. All made above 1400 on the SAT (old scoring system) Hell, two of used to get in for that. Neither, I nor most of the other 92,000 people who fill Sanford Stadium on Saturday afternoons give a damn what Bicarri Rambo made on his SAT—we care about whether he can tackle somebody in the open field…..and contrary to what the Nerds on North Avenue tell you…none of them REALLY care what JOSHUA Nesbitt or the other scholar athletes made either—they just want to beat Georgia every ten or twelve years and pretend they are relevant in college football.

KimZ's Package

April 21st, 2010
10:30 am

That is unfair! The general population of UGA is White. The Football and Basketball teams are mostly Black. Everybody knows that the SAT is Racist. If the would make the SAT in Ebonics and Ghetto Math I bet the UGA Football Players would score much higher.

JB

April 21st, 2010
10:32 am

I’d say these numbers stack up with most schools. I doubt you’ll find any teams avg SAT better than the student pop. In other words, no real news here.

And, as was just pointed out, who cares? These kids are given an opportunity to get a free education, and if their lucky, play in the pro’s. What more should they really ask for?

HBTD!!!

KimZ's Package

April 21st, 2010
10:34 am

Bryan G UGA has 2679 Black students 1,000 Hispanics, and 2,800 Asians Where do you see Diversity? The diversity at UGA is the different Shades of Bottle Blonde Bimbos. Don’t use DIVERSE and UGA in the same sentence ever.

Diamond Dog's parole Officer

April 21st, 2010
10:34 am

My prognostication was accurate… A UGA football player would be arrested prior to a UGA being drafted in this week’s draft.

http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/042110/bre_612685722.shtml

The players come and go… but the behavior remains the same.

I would give myself props, but that prognostication was an easy one to make.

Bryan G.

April 21st, 2010
10:37 am

I believe I said the mission, KimZ. Of course, you shown your own bias and perhaps racism by assuming that only people of different colors can be diverse.

shreveport

April 21st, 2010
10:38 am

Rhodes, we’re expecting you to purchase 5 tickets for next year. bring the whole family. It will be a blast!

The Other St. Simons

April 21st, 2010
10:38 am

Still no mention of SEC Golf Championship. What gives?

JB

April 21st, 2010
10:41 am

Woooooo… The back up walk on punter. There’s a high profile kinda player. Insert roll eyes icon here.

Tech Guy

April 21st, 2010
10:42 am

The AJC reported several months ago that Georgia Tech football players had the highest SAT scores of any Division 1 school in the country. U. of Florida had the lowest.

KimZ's Package

April 21st, 2010
10:44 am

Bryan What do you think a DIVERSE Working environment means? The Govt. has laws to create Diversity and it don’t mean fat ugly white people mixed with thin pretty white people, or white people that can sing mixed with white people that can get drunk. I have a mixed family thank you very much. I woul not let any family attend UGA or support then if they attended UGA. It is white Barbie Doll U. Go to Athens and nail the drunk chicks on the weekend but that is all UGA is goor for. Vet go to Auburn, Lawyer go to Emory, Lawnservice Engineer UGA all the way.

AltamahaDawg

April 21st, 2010
10:47 am

I went on a boondoggle to Phoenix once.

Rhodes Scholar

April 21st, 2010
10:47 am

We were all at Shreveport last year and had a great time—except for all the Amway salesmen. We destroyed Texas A & M. Remind me again how Tech fared in their bowl game?

Bryan G.

April 21st, 2010
10:49 am

I dunno, KimZ, I guess I was naieve enough to assume that people of the same color aren’t all the same. So I should assume that all white people are exactly like me and that all black people are like Michael Vick since people within a race are not diverse?

Happy DAWG

April 21st, 2010
10:50 am

It will be interesting to see how these numbers compare to the numbers ten years from now. When a young person has one God given talent, athleticism, and another has a big brain, they are both God given. There is a place for each in this world. Many of these athletes have limited intellect, but go on to make millions of dollars as a result of their God given ability. Many of these do good with their money. Many need help in managing their finances, fail to get it, and end up losing so much if not all of it.
Compare this to some non-athlete who graduates college, goes into the business world, and some do good, some never do. Some that do, help others less fortunate. General student population, athletes, all human beings with human failings. Just like you and me! Ultimately, we are all responsible for our own actions.

Dixie Clear

April 21st, 2010
10:50 am

uga is a girl’s school…..

AltamahaDawg

April 21st, 2010
10:50 am

How do you “create” diversity? Either it is or it isn’t.

DiamondDog'sParoleOfficer's Little Weiner

April 21st, 2010
10:51 am

I am a little troll of a man who has no life. I can’t get a date for obvious reasons. I love me some UGA football players and I am obsessed with them.

It is cold in this basement…………………..

JB

April 21st, 2010
10:52 am

KimZ – That’s about the dumbest post I’ve ever read.

UGA = Vet, Pharma, Law, Ag, Business, Journalism, etc, etc. Pretty highly rated, too.

HBTD!!!

Happy DAWG

April 21st, 2010
10:52 am

One more thing – what if we did not provide opportunity for the student athlete. Would they all become a burden to society? I am sure many would. At least they had some experience at a higher education and hopefully some good values are the result.

Gt4ever

April 21st, 2010
10:53 am

Who cares about the SAT scores….. This is all so absurd…. They are there to do one thing, PLAY FOOTBALL! Period…. I was very impressed with those scores, I would have bet that the scores would have been lower….

BuzzTech

April 21st, 2010
10:54 am

Football players had an average score of 916 and the overall student population 1250? A 27% lower score and they got in UGA? What a joke! UGA admits anyone with a pulse if they are good in football!

Bryan G.

April 21st, 2010
10:56 am

BuzzTech….well, I mean, yeah. Your point?