On White’s move to fullback — and Samuel’s future

Mark Richt’s weekly radio call-in show was much tamer last night. Whereas a week before most callers vented about Georgia’s performance at Tennessee,  last night’s callers mostly commended the win at Vanderbilt.

A couple of interesting items from Richt’s comments, which came by phone from his pickup truck in a Columbus parking lot after a speaking engagement:

On last week’s practice-field move of backup linebacker Charles White to fullback: “[He] hasn’t been getting a lot of reps at the linebacker position, and we feel the best chance he can help this football team in the future is at fullback,” Richt said. “So we have made a change for him to play fullback in mid-season because we don’t believe we are pulling away from the defense and he can still play special teams. We will have two senior fullbacks next year [Shaun Chapas and Fred Munzenmaier], so we need to cultivate another fullback.”

White, a redshirt sophomore, has two years of eligibility remaining after this one.

Richt was asked about the possibility of moving Richard Samuel from tailback to defense. (The most frequently mentioned position is linebacker, at which Samuel made  the AJC’s All-State team in high school.)   Richt said  such a move would be premature — but did not rule it out eventually.  If Samuel ever were to switch positions, it would  be between seasons, Richt said.

“The thing about Richard, first of all, is that he’s got a lot of reps at running back,” Richt said. “He’s still in the race to be our No. 1 running back, and at this point I think his best chance to help Georgia win is to stay at running back. If there was ever going to be change, it would be an off-season change for him.”

Samuel started the first six games of this season at tailback for Georgia but did not play until the third quarter last week, getting six carries for 18 yards.

By the way, the Dogs are back on the practice field today, one of two practices this week. The other is Thursday. They’ll lift weights Wednesday and Friday.

183 comments Add your comment

Saint Simons

October 20th, 2009
9:18 am

45 – 42 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

harharhar

October 20th, 2009
9:27 am

Just in case you slobbering trailer trash forget it, YOU SUCK.!!!!!!!!!

SavDawg

October 20th, 2009
9:28 am

Has the brain trust in Athens ever thought about moving Samuel to Fullback ?? I think he would ne an awesome threat at that position. It sure would give the opposing defense something to think about.

Shoot

October 20th, 2009
9:28 am

COACHBOBO

October 20th, 2009
9:32 am

Ahm from saint simons, ahm uh suthen gentlemun. ahm prestigeious. ah haware uh hawhite an yella ballcap an root for the hramblin reck. root root root. What a nerd. Nerd herd looses big to georgia again this year! ahhhaaahhaahahha.

Huntsville

October 20th, 2009
9:34 am

They really need to move the kid. He is not a running back. Just doesn’t have the instinct. He seems better suited to being a linebacker. Maybe he can redshirt and learn the position so he can get on the field on defense.

Bernie Matt

October 20th, 2009
9:35 am

Okay, so let me get this right, Mark Richt has no problem changing kids positions, but he will risk his own job before he changes the position of a subpar coordinator (offense and defense). Recruits I hope you’re paying attention. It won’t be long before every problem will be because of “lack of talent”, despite the fact that Samuels, King, and Ealy were all 4 and 5 star prospects. Mark Ingram, by the way was a 3 star prospect and look at what the great coaching he gets has turned him into.
By the way, I’m a Georgia fan, but it’s disgusting to me what this media in the good old south does, by scapegoating the kids and letting the coach off the hook. If you are a big time recruit don’t go to Georgia until a significant change is made on the staff up to and including the Head Coach.

jbts30228

October 20th, 2009
9:37 am

Samuel should be a rush end on the defense. He is bigger and faster then Marcus Howard and we all know the job he did for us two years ago.

Jborodawg

October 20th, 2009
9:42 am

Samuel not a running back; doesn’t have the instinct…LOL. And I still just hope recruits don’t read these comments from UGA “fans”. Whata bunch of fair-weather fans and Monday-morning QBs.

jbts30228

October 20th, 2009
9:52 am

Sort of makes me sick to see how fans talk about our head coach. Then have the nerve to say they are dawg fans. What I really find to be funny. They all know how to fix the team then go off to a job that is not coaching football. There is a reason CMR is the head football coach at UGA and a reason why they go to their jobs not coaching football. Two years ago when UGA was the best team in the country at the end of the season. Where was all these fans that now think the only way Georgia can challenge again is to fire its coaching staff. Either be a real dog fan or shut the hell up. Bernie Matt go root for another team. The dawg nation can do without the likes of you!!!

RxDawg

October 20th, 2009
9:54 am

Really!? Oh thank god. I love Samuel the athelete. I love Samuel the student. I love Samuel’s attitude. I loathe Samuel the running back. If he hasn’t picked up how to play the running back position by now, it’s just not going to happen. Knowshon wan’t half as fast as Samuel, but he was much better at avoidance, at the vision it takes, at just flat out knowing how to get away from defenders.

Put Samuel at LB and everyone should win.

Matt

October 20th, 2009
9:55 am

Bernie- you are a UGA fan and you just tried to convince recruits to not go to school there?????????? I’m confused.

seabass

October 20th, 2009
9:56 am

People, Samuals was a 5 star linebacker in high school. Why would we move him from that position to begin with? If we have to have another fullback, move him there. Or better yet recruit one.

RxDawg

October 20th, 2009
9:58 am

There is absolutely no way Bernie Matt is a Georgia Bulldog. Ignore him.

senoiadawgs

October 20th, 2009
10:10 am

I love how the coaching staff says changes are coming, in the Vandy game we saw one change. Bobo on the sideline

DC Dawg

October 20th, 2009
10:19 am

Bernie Matt… position changes happen all the time. Most of these kids play multiple positions in high school. Sometimes we have them in the wrong spot. Robert Edwards 1st two seasons at UGA were at CB, the position he was recruited to play, but they saw something in him, moved him to RB – worked out better for both parties. Sean Jones was a H.S. QB and recruited at that position, but was moved to Safety – he was drafted 2nd round of 2004 NFL Draft and is still in the league. You are a moron if you really think what you wrote.

Dawg Fud

October 20th, 2009
10:19 am

Samuel is bigger than Marcus Howard? really?

DE is not about being fast, it’s about being quick.

azdawg

October 20th, 2009
10:23 am

Robert Edwards played CB under Ray Goff before the staff tried him at RB. Best move GA has ever made at switching a player position. Samuals is struggling at the RB position and has problems w/fumbling and hitting the holes consistently. He’s fast, good size kid and strong. He’s played D in HS and you want the best players on the field in the right position. RB is not his best position so try him on D. He’s not getting many reps at RB anymore and its a shame to leave him on the sidelines. Agree w/CMR that if a change is in store for either of these kids do it between seasons. Same for White.

tchance

October 20th, 2009
10:25 am

Saint Simons? How old do you think he is?

Robert Edwards

October 20th, 2009
10:25 am

It took Coach Goff 3 years to realize that I should have been playing RB.

mcdaviddawg

October 20th, 2009
10:25 am

Wouldn’t expect Richt to make any changes during the season or during a game. That wouldn’t be Richt like to respond to what’s happening . We are Georgia.

godawg

October 20th, 2009
10:25 am

Practice trickeration and more trickeration. WOOF!

coachx

October 20th, 2009
10:29 am

Samuels is only 210 – 215 lbs…………way to small for a FB or DE fellas.

He seems to be muscular track / sprinter to me. He has no elusiveness or “wiggle”. When he gets touched he just falls down. One of those great atheletes that just does not have “it” when it comes to being a SEC RB.

A move to LB may be good for him next year. I do like seeing him getting in the game in the 2nd half once the oppositions defene is wore down. He spped will alyayse make him a home run threat vs. a busted or tired defense. He is just not starter material at RB in the SEC.

I want to see more of Carlton Thomas on passing downs……….I wish we sould split him out wide, after lining up at the line of scrimmage in the backfield as a RB……….then split him out wide to get one on coverage vs. a LB which will also lessen the pass rush.

I also want to see more 2 TE sets with O. Charles and A. White in the game together. Both of those guys can burn any LB in pass coverage.

DawginLex

October 20th, 2009
10:34 am

It’s about getting the best athletes on the field and making sure they know what they are doing when they get there.

Jackson and Ealey are the future at RB. They should be getting all the reps witht he 1st team. King and Thomas are next in line and King is very good at pass protection.

Samuel’s best bet is to start working with the linebackers now and when we get a new DC next year, he can play DE or outside LB. Recruits reading this should be pleased that we have a head coach intelligent enough to put people in places where they can succeed.

Summit Dawg

October 20th, 2009
10:34 am

Where I am confused about the running backs situation is why recruit one of the top backs, (Ealey) and not put the ball in his hands more. He has had better success rurrning the ball than King, Samuels, and all others combined? Remember Hershal,,& how many times he touched the ball in a game. Ealey is accustomed to carrying many times. He scored seven toutchdowns in one game at E,C.I……and that was in the first half ’cause the coach didn’t play him in the second!!!!

C.W.Moss

October 20th, 2009
10:34 am

Bernie Matt is a latent homosexual who has never played a team sport in his life. His sole mission in life is to wait every year for the monopoly game at McDonalds to arrive so he can try to win the million dollar prize. He wouldn’t know a good running back from a good linebacker if his life depended on it. The Georgia team doesn’t need people like him as fans. He needs to go buy a yellow wig, paint his body white and hang out in the end zone showing everyone what an idiot he is with all the Tech fans at their games…he’d fit right in.

coachx

October 20th, 2009
10:38 am

harharhar

October 20th, 2009
9:27 am
“Just in case you slobbering trailer trash forget it, YOU SUCK.!!!!!!!!!”

harharhar,
Keep it up………….the proof is in the pudding that your the biggest piece of trash on this blog. Fans like you simply make the GT program appear to have a classless fan base after winning 1 game in 8 tries vs. UGA.

Then we have that 14 year old, who calls himself SaitSimons, who sits on his laptop, at his daddy’s condo ever day, who’s only meaning in life is to be the first poster on the AJC’s UGA blogs. Your life is truely a sorry existence. Maybe you will contribute to society one day……….but that day seems way far away. You have so much growing up to do.

Tech fans are immature and classless bunch indeed ! The proof is in the pudding.

Georgia Headlines – 10/20/09 | MrSEC.com

October 20th, 2009
10:41 am

[...] viewed as Georgia’s best bet to replace Knowhon Moreno.  Talk about a fall from grace.2.  Charles White has just gone the other way, moving from linebacker to fullback.3.  Defensive tackle Geno Atkins had to come off the bench last [...]

Billy Ray Valentine

October 20th, 2009
10:45 am

DawginLex

You still think UGA could beat Alabama?
A few weeks back you said that UGA was on track and was staying the pace just like other SEC teams?

Coachx….do you want to see the 2 TE sets with both TE’s split out, or down on the line?

Split out might make it look like a spread offense…I thought that was illegal in Athens?

Care to reconsider?

Please, lets save time and not ask “what y’alls record this decade?”
The article was about the future of the programs, not the past.

If Richard Sam

Billy Ray Valentine

October 20th, 2009
10:49 am

they cut BRV off…what’s that about. haha!

Coachx….would the 2 TE sets have the TE’s down on the line, or split out as wide outs?

Joe Friday

October 20th, 2009
10:53 am

“He’s still in the race to be our #1 runnung back.” When does this race end? The season’s half over.

coachKR

October 20th, 2009
10:55 am

If we don’t learn to execute with our blocking scheme, no one will be able to run the ball. Richard is better running the iso and traps, than counters. Also, with our weak attempt at blocking the sweeps, no one generates anything. Richard can run the ball, but Herschel needed blocks too!

Billy Ray?

October 20th, 2009
11:00 am

I hope that coachx cna draw up better plays than he can spell or write…

Junkyard Joe

October 20th, 2009
11:02 am

I like the way you’re thinking SavDawg. Samuel to Fullback, it least on some plays

DawginLex

October 20th, 2009
11:07 am

Billy ray,

Bama still won’t have any SEC titles this decade after this year either. We will have 2.

That will be 2-0 if you will still be keeping score after Tebow whips you in ATL.

It’s all about the titles isn’t it?

Denver Dawg

October 20th, 2009
11:10 am

I’m sick of our coaching staff. Mark Richt and all his assistants should be fired. They are worthless. Who cares if our recruits change their mind and go somewhere else. They are probably all losers just like all of Richt’s other players.

Blackberry Cobbler

October 20th, 2009
11:10 am

Got a bye week but we’re trying to get prepared for Florida next weekend……… so we will practice TWICE this week. Wow. That’s really putting the extra time to good use……….

BuLL Dawg

October 20th, 2009
11:11 am

We suck !! We’ll be lucky to win 5 games this year. Tech will probably hang a half dollar on our sorry ass defense this year.

Blackberry Cobbler

October 20th, 2009
11:13 am

Half way through the season and we still don’t have a #1 running back……….. or even a running game, period. This team, the preparation, and the coaching staff are all pathetic.

jbts30228

October 20th, 2009
11:15 am

Samuels is 6′ 2″ and 222lbs according to the dawgs roster. Marcus Howard according to the colts roster is 6′ 0″ and 237. Now move him back to his soph season what do you think his weight was? Marcus Howard was a corner back that moved to D End. With Samuels quicks he would be a monster around the end. Look at NFL rosters and you see ends at 6 foot to 6′ 2″ in the 230 to 250 one every team. To think Samuels does not have the size is just not true.

Blackberry Cobbler

October 20th, 2009
11:15 am

CMR needs to park that Ford pickup truck and stop the in-season speaking engagements and get his mind on getting ready for Florida. Boy, he and his coaching staff really have their priorities in the right order, don’t they………….

Billy Ray Valentine

October 20th, 2009
11:16 am

Lex

the article wasnt titles “who has more SEC titles in the 2000’s”

The article was talking about how your Dawgs are not headed in the right direction.

Don’t live in the past Lex.

In your heart, you honestly feel that UGA is headed in the right direction?

General toss up to whoever wants to bet….
Who will hang more points on the dogs this year, Tech or Florida?

Scottyfloze

October 20th, 2009
11:19 am

If we are referencing Robert Edwards – then why don’t we look at moving Boykin to RB. Boykin, unlike any RB I have seen this year, can see the entire field and wait for a hole to open up. Richard Samuels is an SEC athlete – but not an SEC running back. Maybe he can cut it as a LB or FB – but without vision and patience, we can’t depend on him at the RB position.

Wil Walton

October 20th, 2009
11:21 am

Just a thought, based on CMR’s comments about TB, it seems like they are auditioning for the #1 TB spot for 2010. Kind of makes sense considering they will all be back. I would like to also see some snaps for Gray to start the auditioning for the #1 QB spot next year. IMO, Samuel should never have been moved from LB. He could have been solid at the OLB opposite Curran by now.

Dave In Tampa

October 20th, 2009
11:26 am

Chill out people. everything will be alright! Too many bashing CMR. I still would not trade him in for any other coach. Now a couple of the other coaches it would be a different story. All top programs go through a bad year. I remember a UF team that lost 4 games and the next year they won a NC. I’m not saying we will do that, but we will be in the top tier in the SEC next year.

I did not know that Samuel was recruited as a LB. I also like the idea of him at fullback. It will be interesteing to see what adjustments CMR makes for the second half of the season.

Wil Walton

October 20th, 2009
11:26 am

Hey Scotty, you stole my thoughts from 2 weeks ago… LOL The only problem with the Edwards/Boykin comparison would be a BAD similarity, they both seemed/seem to be fragile, which is not a good attribute for an SEC TB.

coachx

October 20th, 2009
11:27 am

“Coachx….do you want to see the 2 TE sets with both TE’s split out, or down on the line?

Split out might make it look like a spread offense…I thought that was illegal in Athens?

Care to reconsider?”

We have seen both TE’s split out wide a few times this year but it limits the audibles Cox can call at the line scrimmage.

I personally like seeing White and Charles in the traditional “ACE” formation where they are both at the line up of scrimmage. This allows Cox the freedom to keep one (or both) as pass blockers, if he reads the pre-snap blitz, and it also allows for them to be the “hot routes” if Cox would rather use that audible to beat the blitz. It would allow UGA to keep 7 blockers at the line of scrimmage for a run audible to the left or right based on what the defense gives you.

As 5th year senior I trust Cox to make the right pre-snap read out of that ACE formation where I think we can have mis-matches on passing plays and the freedom to change the protection scheme or to change to a run play with 7 blockers at the line of scrimmage.

Of course one of the TEs could alwayse split out wide at the line up of scrimmage to make the defense think even more.

Remember that one of the safeties are shading AJ Green and not thinking about the TE’s most of the time.

Wil Walton

October 20th, 2009
11:28 am

Dave, he was a MONSTER LB in HS.

Wil Walton

October 20th, 2009
11:30 am

Coachx, great analysis. Addtionally, either also has the size to motion to FB as well.

59bulldawg

October 20th, 2009
11:30 am

“They all know how to fix the team then go off to a job that is not coaching football. There is a reason CMR is the head football coach at UGA and a reason why they go to their jobs not coaching football.”

Well duh! Captain Obvious I hope you’re not a Georgia grad! Your kind of logic is foolish! Richt got into coachin because he’s a former athlete and football was his primary interest. Those of us who didn’t get into coaching had other interests. But no matter what profession a person picks, it doesn’t mean that he couldn’t do something else or do it better. Someone not in coaching might make an excellent coach. After all it only requires (and I realize I’m oversimplifying) good management and leadership skills combined with a thorough understanding of the game. Although experience makes a better coach, t’s not like a person is required to spend several years of academic study in graduate school or in one of the professions like business, law, medicine, or engineering to become a coach. Who’s to say that someone in one of these other professions doesn’t know enough about football to do a better job just like Richt might make a better Minister of the Gospel than a head football coach. Thus it’s foolish to suggest that someone not in coaching can never make a critical observation about the Georgia football team.

I like Richt and want him to stay . . . as long as he’s getting the job done! And FYI I have been critical of Richt’s offense all along . . . and yes even two years ago when things were better. For instance I despise that little delay misdirection draw play that we run and because of it often lose yards. But what I despise more are mindless defenders of anything that don’t debate the facts but instead take issue with someone’s right to criticise. Using the logic that some folks on this blog use, it’d be interesting to see how they vote. Probably always for the incumbent!

Like a lot of alumni and fans I think Richt is a decent coach where the Xs and Os are concerned. He’s not Saban or Meyer or probably even Miles. But he’s better than many. Two weeks ago though he wasn’t even the equal of Kiffin and was embarrassingly outcoached and outplayed. My problem with Richt is that for over a year now and on several occasions before that we’ve had inconsistent performance from all areas of our team and Richt has yet to figure it out. Despite glaring evidence to the contrary that all’s well he’s not made changes to his coaching staff to get better. He’s allowed the problem with our defense and possibly our offense too to reach such critical mass that unless changes are made to his staff after this season, Richt has damaged his own position as head coach. And that’s a real shame because the well-being of the team should be more important than coaching loyalties on the staff.

My point is simply this. Richt has brought this criticism on himself. Some fans like Bernie go a little overboard and I don’t agree with it. But’s it’s illustrative of the amount of good will Richt has forfeited because of his stubborness. Others like jbts think you have to be a coach to say anything negative. I disagree with this approach even more because such folks seem to want to give our staff a pass simply because they’re our staff. Most people I know are out of their mind angry and pissed off about what’s going on in Athens! There’s a large part of the bulldawg nation who’s had enough of this crap. Strong defense is a big part of Georgia’s football heritage. So is fundamentally sound football . . . where penalties and turnovers are not the most consistent part of the Georgia offense. All of these things including tackling, blocking, etc. are skills taught and refined by the coaching staff. If the current staff can’t get these concepts across to the athletes they coach . . . then it’s time to find coaches who can.

My ultimate loyalty is to the University of Georgia and it’s best interest . . . and not to any set of coaches. My support for the staff is dependent upon the quality and consistency of their coaching. I’m sorry but it’s a results oriented business. I can’t help but think that if the coaching had been the equal of our talent this season, our record would be better.