The great handshake debate

Athens –  You never know what the hot topic will be three days before a big football game, do you? At Georgia’s post-practice media session Wednesday night, handshakes were the most popular  conversation piece — specifically, Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy’s concern that pregame handshakes among the teams Saturday could lead to brawl.

Gundy’s reservations drew varying reactions from Georgia players. Joe Cox said he could see the potential for something bad to happen. Rennie Curran said there was nothing to worry about. See their comments here.

In any case, Oklahoma State  has decided to forgo the pregame handshakes requested as a sportsmanship gesture by the American Football Coaches Association (AFCA) at all season-opening games this weekend.  Oklahoma State’s decision was made “after much deliberation among our coaching staff,”  OSU associate athletics director Kevin Klintworth said in an e-mail.

Gundy earlier this week expressed doubts about the AFCA’s handshake initiative, fearing that the convergence of 175 or so fired-up players for pregame handshakes at midfield could lead to trouble.

Georgia coach Mark Richt said Wednesday night that the decision  was up to Oklahoma State as the home team. “We’ll do whatever they decide,” he said. And they have decided.

Richt said Georgia had answered “we’d be happy to do it” in response to an AFCA survey about the handshake idea, but he drew a line after season openers.

“If you started trying to do it every single game, I think things could get heated in certain rival games, yeah,” Richt said.

While Georgia and Oklahoma State are not exactly rivals, their matchup  is not a typical season-opener type of game, either.  Both teams are nationally ranked — Oklahoma State No. 9 and Georgia No. 13 — and the Cowboys want to avenge  their 35-14 loss to the Dogs in Sanford Stadium two years ago.

“Everybody knows how they were talking after the game, saying that they didn’t come ready to play and thought they were outcoached and outplayed,” Cox said, “and nobody wants to play again and have the same feeling after the game. So they’re going to be focused and fired up, and I’m sure the last thing on their mind is meeting at midfield and shaking hands before the game.”

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Now,  on to a couple other topics of interest from Wednesday night at Butts-Mehre:

– The biggest news, although pretty much a foregone conclusion, of Georgia’s travel list for the Oklahoma State game was that  Caleb King is not on it because of the pulled hamstring that has sidelined him since Aug. 12.  Twelve true freshmen are on the list:  receivers Marlon Brown and Rantavious Wooten, tight ends Orson Charles and Arthur Lynch, tailback Washaun Ealey, quarterbacks Aaron Murray and Zach Mettenberger,  defensive backs Branden Smith and Shawn Williams, defensive end Montez Robinson, defensive tackle Abry Jones and linebacker Mike Gilliard. Most of the freshmen making the trip, although not the quarterbacks, are expected to play.

– Richt said he’s changing  his longstanding in-season practice schedule. For the first time since he’s been at Georgia, the Bulldogs will practice on Sunday nights and take off on Mondays, rather than vice versa. Richt  thinks the advantages of the new schedule will include allowing the team to “finish up” film review of the preceding game on Sundays and “switch gears” to the next opponent on Tuesdays,  rather than doing a bit of both on Mondays. He also said this setup will give assistant coaches all day Monday and half a day Tuesday “before they have to present a plan  [for the next game], which they think will help them.” Richt said the schedule — practicing/meeting the day after a game, then taking the following day off –  is patterned after the NFL model.  “My brother-in-law, Brad Johnson, who played in the league for 18 years, said he really liked the schedule as a player,” Richt said.

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And one item from earlier in the day:

–   Asked about a recent report that Michigan routinely exceeds NCAA limits on how much time football teams can devote to practice and other required activities, Richt said Georgia closely monitors its compliance with the rule. He  said John Eason, now Georgia’s director of football operations and formerly an assistant coach, long has scheduled the Bulldogs’ practices. Richt said he gets the schedule from Eason about a week in advance “to make sure the plan is set and that we are staying in compliance.”

Richt added: “Gosh, our compliance director has got a big window and can look out and watch us [practice], so they are well aware of what’s going on. We do a good job.”

70 comments Add your comment

Dshep

September 3rd, 2009
5:21 pm

Who gives a RATS ***! Kick some tale and shake afterwards. GODAWGS!!!!

Aaron Murray

September 3rd, 2009
5:33 pm

Joe Cox is gonna suck. Samuel will get rocked. Ok State will kick our butts all the back to hell hole, GA.

Go Gators National Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AltamahaDawg

September 3rd, 2009
6:03 pm

Why on earth would the NCAA take a non-issue and turn it into the very antithesis of what they claim they were trying to promote? What an absolute bonehead idea.

Mike C Bulldog

September 3rd, 2009
6:19 pm

Why don’t they do something in between shaking hands and not shaking hands…..Maybe the captains can meet at the center of the field and shake hands…..OH THEY ALREADY DO THIS. Give me a break. Go Dawgs Sic Em Woof Woof Woof!!!!!

superDawg

September 3rd, 2009
6:40 pm

I say shake hands and come out fighting.Who needs a football to ruin a good fight.GATA!

Mark Fox

September 3rd, 2009
11:54 pm

I’m looking forward to going to Stillwater and watching a Basketball School totally whip our ugly tails in football. At least we still have women’s gymnastics to look forward to.

George P. Burdell

September 4th, 2009
1:32 am

Keep debating the “handshake” conspiracy. Look at Oregon St. and Boise St just moments ago. They did the little handshake and it still meant nothing at the end of the game. That was just embarassing.

Sautee Dawg

September 4th, 2009
7:21 am

I guess the season opener at Boise St. vs. Oregon pretty much sums up the handshake idea. Can you imagine this happening at UGA vs. GA. Tech? or ALA vs. Auburn?

chazzo

September 4th, 2009
8:20 am

Gundy is wound as tight as his hairdo. Anyone see Richt talking about this. He could care less. Who came up with this plan, though? Football is a highly emotional game. It is the first game of the season and everyone is jacked. So, let’s throw another measure of protocol in the mix. Great idea. The sad thing is, who is this for? Are the players going to have a change of heart and decide to play to a tie and go home? Is it for the kids so that they can learn about meaningless protocol at an early age? Sometimes when you are an adult you have to smile and shake someone’s hand before you stick your helmet in their chest at 30 mph.

Note to the media, coaches, presidents, and governing bodies: The game is fine. We love it. We get it. Just because you have meetings doesn’t mean you have to invent new rules and gimmicks!

That being said, I think in the third quarter of every game at 6:37, there should be a time out and everyone in the stadium should sing along to Queens Bohemian Rhapsody. Think of it as a seventh inning stretch. Speaking of baseball, I really think you should be able to run both ways around the bases. It would liven up the game considerably.

leslie22h

September 4th, 2009
8:55 am

It’s official! Lou Holtz picks Oklahoma State over Georgia. Surprised?Saw it last night on ESPN. Has Holtz ever picked UGA to win in an “evenly matched” contest? For the life of me I cannot. He must still be upset with UGA for all the a$$ whoopins the Dawgs handed him as the Carolina HC. Oh well, when he picks UGA to lose, they win. Thanks, Dr. Lou!

Where's my crack pipe?

September 4th, 2009
8:56 am

Thank God..only 13 more games until we get to fire Willie!

Dr. Phil

September 4th, 2009
9:32 am

Mutts-R-Stupid-especially-journalism-majors, your obsession with leg humping is disturbing to say the least. I can’t help but wonder if you’ve ever had a relationship with a member of the opposite sex. Your posts on this board, combined with your affiliation with GT, would make a professional like myself believe that you are a virgin. And your silly handle suggests deep rooted feelings of inferiority. You should see a therapist immediately. I only hope that it’s not too late. If you don’t get help at Charter, please get help somewhere.

BruffDawg

September 4th, 2009
9:41 am

Oregon’s running back put the handshake debate to bed forever. Besides, THERE IS ALREADY A HANDSHAKE BETWEEN THE CAPTAINS AT MIDFIELD BEFORE THE GAME!!!! Is that not enough?

Butthead

September 4th, 2009
10:17 am

It kind of interesting to see the pregame hand shakes, look what happened in the BSU and Oregon game. After game sucker punch, Good sportsmanship should also be focused on. I agree with the captains shaking hands but 15 palyers with mixed hyped up emotions is obscene. They are just 18-19 years out there, but the coach hopefully has some type of reign on them.

Atlanta Gator

September 4th, 2009
10:42 am

Greetings, Dawg fans.

Well, I was inclined to go with the “good sportsmanship” crowd on this one, that is, until last night’s hand-shake sucker punch after the Boise State-Oregon game. By all credible accounts, the punch sounds like it was verbally provoked by post-game taunting from one of the Boise players, but that’s beside the point. This incident reflects horribly on both players involved, their parents, their programs and their schools. Both players involved need to be suspended, and coaches need to to educate the rest on the fundamentals of acceptable behavior that most of us learned in Little League.

I recognize the cultural down-slide that got us to this point, but standards need to be upheld and enforced. If 200 players can’t shake hands in a gesture of a good sportsmanship AFTER the game is played, I’m not sure universities need to be sponsoring intercollegiate football teams. Seriously. I’m embarrassed for all concerned, and my team wasn’t even on the field. Every coach, athletic director, conference commissioner and university president needs to step up and condemn this kind of behavior NOW.

DirtyDawg

September 4th, 2009
10:53 am

OK, I’ll try it another way since apparently by ‘F-bomb’ didn’t go through…Paul (the one that posted the above link about ’sportsmanship not working, etc.’ you suck.

dan

September 4th, 2009
11:21 am

Am I the only one who doesn’t feel sorry for the Broncos player that got punched out? Some of these kids don’t exactly come from great neighborhoods, and you need to be careful who you pop off to! I certainly don’t condom Blount’s actions, and I’m sure trash talking was coming from both sides throughout the entire game. But once the game is over, then it’s over. Talking crap to someone after you beat them is counterproductive, you’ve already proven your point. Winners don’t conduct themselves in such a way. I think both players need to be suspended.

KJ

September 4th, 2009
2:16 pm

Blount had been mouthing off before the game about how they were gonna give BSU an ass-whoopin’, so I imagine the BSU player said something to the effect of “how did you like THAT ass-whoopin”, and he was completely justified in saying it.

As the NATStards that troll these blogs are about to learn, you shouldn’t talk trash if you don’t want it thrown back in your face.

And even if you don’t “condom” Blount for that, the fact that he then went after cops and fans should tell you that he’s a complete nutjob that doesn’t belong on the field.

superDawg

September 4th, 2009
5:22 pm

If you have a problem during the game see the parking lot attendent.

superDawg

September 4th, 2009
5:23 pm

HIS NAME IS ROY D.MERCER AND HE HAS HIS WIFE WITH HIM.