The scheduling game

   The scheduling game keeps getting more complicated —  and, to say the least, more expensive.

    For non-conference games on future home football schedules, Georgia will pay $875,000 to Louisiana (Lafayette) in 2010, $925,000 to New Mexico State in 2011 and $975,000 to North Texas in 2013.

   It’s the cost of getting games against teams that don’t require you to come to their place another year in return. Here’s my story on that topic.

   Meanwhile, an issue we’ve discussed here before —  the Atlanta Sports Council’s desire to have Georgia play a season-opening non-conference game in the Georgia Dome in 2010 or some other year — continues to percolate.

   There’s still nothing concrete . . . just a continuing desire by the Sports Council and its TV partner ESPN to put something together involving the Dogs, when/if possible.  Rumored opponents have run the gamut –- UCLA, Texas, Southern Cal, North Carolina, you name ‘em.

    Damon Evans, Georgia’s AD, said a couple of weeks ago that he’d heard various rumors, but said he’d gotten word some of the schools rumored to be interested in playing UGA in Atlanta really weren’t. Georgia’s position is that it doesn’t rule out any possibility but isn’t actively pursuing a 2010 Dome game.  UGA already has six games  scheduled away from Athens that year and won’t, under any circumstances, play fewer than six games in Sanford Stadium.  So unless that year’s contractually committed game at Colorado were shifted to another year, there’d be no room for an Atlanta game.

    Sports Council president Gary Stokan said last month — and reiterated Monday –- that trying to mesh schedules to put together a neutral-site game, particularly one as close at hand as 2010, is “like a Rubik’s cube.”

   Your thoughts on any of this?

 

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Don't Tase Me Bro

June 2nd, 2009
7:30 am

Move the Florida game to home and home and scheduling problems like this disappear. Time to realize that an annual weekend bender for the big wigs at the beach isn’t worth giving up a home game every other year.

The trip to Boulder shouldn’t be moved, I’d much rather go there than the hell hole of Jax.

David

June 2nd, 2009
7:53 am

These games with Ok St, AZ St, Colorado, Louisville do nothing for us. They don’t help us in recruiting because we don’t recruit any of those areas and they are perennial powerhouses (Mich, Okl, PSU, TX, USC, OSU…) so nationally they don’t help us. They only hurt us because of the schedule. You don’t see Florida playing those games and for good reason.

I am all about playing teams outside the conference but they need to be BIG schools or stay and play teams like Clemson or even Florida State but not teams out west that kill you to travel. And not when we give up a home game every other year because of the FLorida game.

hop

June 2nd, 2009
7:57 am

it is about time that georgia negates these high priced exhibition games by scheduling florida to a home and home.

also, that will allow more home and home scheduling with major college teams. georgia always has to struggle to get enough home games and pay huge prices to balance their home games because the florida game is always in jacksonville.

UGASlobberknocker

June 2nd, 2009
8:21 am

Hey Taser Boy/ hop a long….I couldnt agree more on the crappy teams we are scheduling at home, nd while Jax has improved 1000% in the last 15 yrs, the town is still a bit nasty. The fact is that UGA COULD schedule better teams for home and home, AND keep the Fla game in Jax, but instead chooses to have 7 games some yrs with two patsies.

That said, however, the solution is not moving the Fla game. It is not only big wigs there. Most there are regular people like you and me. Also , as a student, that trip is a very special part of the UGA experience. When I see a Dawg fan pushing for home and home, I often think that person must not have been a student at UGA; because if he had been, he would know about the incredible buzz on campus the wk before that game. It is a tradition that should not be messed with.

TommyP

June 2nd, 2009
8:25 am

Hop makes a GREAT point.

Has anyone brought up the idea of playing the Florida game in Athens, then Jacksonville, then Atlanta and finally in The Swamp? A 4 year rotation?

I can’t imagine seeing a Georgia-Texas or Georgia-USC matchup to start the season. Wow…

I always found the Rubik’s Cube to be easy so maybe this will happen. :)

tampadawg

June 2nd, 2009
8:27 am

here’s an idea. why not have the colorado game at the dome?? yeah, colorado get’s short changed on the home game, but they’ll make up for it with the nationally telivised game and the proceeds generated by that game. I just wonder if the dome will allow the buffalo inside?

tampadawg

June 2nd, 2009
8:32 am

and i also strongly dis-agree with moving the UGA-uf game out of JAX. it’s just one hell of a weekend and is a tradion to both schools.

TommyP

June 2nd, 2009
8:37 am

While I agree that the Florida game in Jax is special, every one of you that comments on it talks about how special it is for you…..as a fan.

How does it affect our team?

Bo Williams

June 2nd, 2009
8:46 am

Would UGA vs UNC in Charlotte draw a crowd?

Cuz

June 2nd, 2009
8:51 am

How does the game in JAX affect the team? Usually it drops us in the polls.

Cuz

June 2nd, 2009
8:52 am

I have a great idea, lets move to the ACC so we don’t ever have to play Florida in JAX.

YoungDawg

June 2nd, 2009
8:57 am

If we’re going to play USC or Texas then it needs to be in Athens! So we can have the full effect of the home crowd. It would be OK to play any ACC school except for Clemson in the GA Dome. What Stokan needs to do is get a new dome built that has the ability to expand its capacity to 100+k like the new Cowboys stadium then it would be easier to entice teams to give up a home date. Otherwise unless they really over pay financially it doesn’t make sense to give up a home date in Athens.

Pago Flyer

June 2nd, 2009
9:31 am

Aren’t you DAWG fans embarrassed being run out of JAX! This story is making us look like whimps!

Otto

June 2nd, 2009
9:32 am

There is no need to play any game in the Dome. Play any of the other teams mentioned in Kick Off Classic in a home and home. Keep the WLOCP in Jax. UF can get away with the easier schedule, UGA and Auburn can not. UF earned that after dominating the SEC.

Also I like the current scheduling of OOC games. UGA should win them and it gets national TV exposure which helps rankings, thus bowl selection and therefore more money and better chances of getting in a debated BCS title game. Would I like the see UGA vs USC? Yes however USC is booked through 2013 from what I’ve read.

Kendawg

June 2nd, 2009
9:40 am

Personally, I don’t think that UGA needs to play a regular season game in the Dome. The trek to Athens and the on-campus experience of game day is what makes me continue to buy season tickets. You can’t get that same feeling at a game in the Dome. Tailgating in Athens is a large part of the whole game day experience.

Barshaw

June 2nd, 2009
9:44 am

Why doesn’t UGAy just drop into Division II and play patsies every week? Or better yet, join the prison league. UGAy’s thugs and illiterates would fit right in. :-)

Saint Simons

June 2nd, 2009
9:53 am

north texas, new mexico st, tennesee tech!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaahhahahahhahhahhahahahahahhaahhaah

Saint Simons

June 2nd, 2009
9:55 am

UGA loves those cupcake teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

Don't Tase Me Bro

June 2nd, 2009
10:00 am

I’m sure plenty of Florida’s other rivals would jump at the opportunity to play a game every year in Florida if Georgia reverts back to a home and home. I mean it would be foolish to even want to play your biggest rival at home every other year.

Denver Dog

June 2nd, 2009
10:07 am

saint simons, bring on Wofford, Gardner Webb, Furman, or maybe just NC State, Wake, or UNC. Then we can be on par with your “all-star” schedule. We are the toughest team on your schedule. Your beanie headed, slide rule carrying, cow worshipers are on the bottom 3rd or ours. That is why you win once every 7 years. Do you pick up Valdosta State this year?

DDawg10

June 2nd, 2009
10:20 am

Scheduling GA Tech and GA to open in 2010 in the dome would be a great local draw but….

RxDawg

June 2nd, 2009
10:20 am

The UGA vs UF game in Jax does not have as big of an effect on our shceduling as most of you think. In fact, it makes us a lot of money financialy which is one of the biggest reasons it remains there. The other being tradition.

Why don’t we just add 1 more SEC game across the board? We wont have to shell out extra money for the gimmies, and will in fact make a lot more of it with another big time home & home. The only problem is the SEC will beat each other up that much more but so what. 1 game shouldn’t have that much more of an effect on things. Of course this would work a little better if there was a 4 or 8 team playoff. In the beauty pagent of the BCS championship game, knocking each other around too much while the other pansie coference leaders sail in on easy wins is too likely. Eh, just throwing some ideas around.

NCDAWG

June 2nd, 2009
10:33 am

I am a UGA fan……but you never hear Florida fans complaining about playing in Jacksonville (even tough they are losing a “home game” too) It all has to do with how UGA has played there…….I will admit some teams have tougher schedules…….but when you play in the SEC it is prudent to schedule at least one or two teams you should beat 95% of time…..if you want a shot at playing for the National Championship.

RealDAWG

June 2nd, 2009
10:57 am

Here is a novel idea. Let Damon and Richt deal with the scheduling then adopt the idea of I will play anyone, anywhere at anytime. If we go 12-0 then we are #1. Just win. Isn’t that what we are suppose to teach our young kids. Anyone that disagrees with that is a Loser with a Cap L.

Native Atlantan

June 2nd, 2009
11:06 am

I’ve blogged many times before that moving the UF game out of Jacksonville would make scheduling much easier and provide greater quality. Both UF and UGA lose a slot every year w/ an in-state rival that is non conference.

That puts UGA and possibly UF in a situation to get two teams annually with the “play one at mine with no return trip”. It amazes me the people who spend thousands on tickets on contributions get stuck with non marketable games.

Moving the UF series home and home would allow an AD to schedule “two for ones” and “three for ones” with WAC, Mountain West and possibly a Big East team. I bet Washington State from the PAC 10 would do a two for one. They just gave Auburn a game there with no return trip two years ago.

I guess when you’re an AD or a rich board member, it’s probably more important to be able to use your St Simons home and yacht for the game though. Heck, got to do what’s best for “me” instead of what’s best for the university and their people.

KNelson

June 2nd, 2009
11:07 am

Keep on paying or wins and you can maintain the same respect you have now. Very little on the national stage. take a page from the VOLS. They have no problem doing home and aways with National teams.

RedandBlack

June 2nd, 2009
11:13 am

Damon Evans should not have to pay for teams to come to Athens to play the Dogs. That is ludicrous. When there are areas around the country that Coach Richt does well in recruiting like North Carolina, then perhaps Damon Evans and Coach Richt should collaborate better with the schedule in future years. When the Dogs have to travel out west, then schedule that game with an off weekend to follow instead of having to come back and play Alabama.

There is no patsy game within the SEC schedule, but there are opportunities that should be looked into for use of a better strategy toward future scheduling, recruitment, publicity, etc. I agree that the Dogs should be able to stack up against anyone, anywhere, anytime, etc. However, there should also be some well thought out strategy for doing so as well. No more patsies and miliion dollar payoffs. Come on Dogs!! Woof, Baby, Woof!! Go Dogs!!!

Gatorzone

June 2nd, 2009
11:20 am

All you dawgies can now STFU about scheduling.

BAMA STAN

June 2nd, 2009
11:27 am

12 NATIONAL TITLES – 21 SEC TITLES!!!

WOW – A lot of negativity in the comments about the schedule.

I propose to keep Alabama in the kickoff classic – playing Clemson, VA Tech, GA Tech, Miami, and FSU on a rotating schedule.

Besides that tail kicking we gave to UGA last year – the tail kicking we gave to Clemson has raised our teams profile in the state of Georgia – and we are now on the radar of a lot of blue chip recruits that normally would have not have seriously considered Bama……plus the fact the media hype that comes with having Saban – really raised the profile of the school after being on probation,

This game has made recruiting in Georgia a lot easier – that’s for sure!

RROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIDE!!!!!

Otto

June 2nd, 2009
11:31 am

GatorZone, UGA still has Clemson for 2013. UF has not played a BCS conf team in the regular season other than Miami 3 times and FSU since Okie St. back in ‘90.

Otto

June 2nd, 2009
11:34 am

NC Dawg I agree and like to see the team open against a team you should beat 95% of the time. I also like the idea of 1 Big OOC game other than the Nerds.

Huh?

June 2nd, 2009
11:37 am

If playing in the Dome gets us more national exposure we need to do it. While most of us would agree that Samford Stadium is heaven on earth, most outsiders probably would not. ABC/ESPN does not give two craps about Samford Stadium. They care about great matchups that get people from all corners of the USA watching the games so that they can get good ratings. That is all they care about. Playing in such games, and winning them, will up our profile and only benefit us in the long run. Some of you are too old fashioned and myopic. This is 21st century college football and a good ole boy mentality will only leave us far behind others in the race for college football supremacy. We should kiss ABC/ESPN’s butt. We should do unusual things that break with “tradition.” We should not fear change. Thanks for listening and class dismissed.

DAWGFANINMICH

June 2nd, 2009
11:40 am

Lets do a home and home with Michigan at the Georgia Dome and Ford Field

Gatorzone

June 2nd, 2009
11:41 am

Otto, I guess in their current state it is easy to brush over games against Miami and FSU. Tell you what, why don’t we swap Georgia Tech for FSU?

Otto

June 2nd, 2009
11:53 am

Gatorzone, The GT for FSU swap is very tempting at the moment.

A schedule where FSU is your only BCS OOC game (at the end of the season as well) is alot easier to manage from an injuries and game planning perspective than Az St., Okie St, Colorado, L’ville, Oregon often having more than one in the same season, as well as a respectable in state rival.

I would take FSU over Okie St, Az St., and GT in the same year.

Sweetduckie

June 2nd, 2009
11:55 am

The ideal game would be a University of North Carolina vs University of Georgia contest in 2010. UNC is certainly interested as should be UGA. Such a match-up would be a game that would go down in the books as marking the beginning of an OOC rivalry!

Sanford Drive

June 2nd, 2009
1:24 pm

Gatorzone,

FSU sucks.

BobDog

June 2nd, 2009
1:57 pm

I’m not sure what Colorado’s finances are, but maybe they could be bought to move their home game to the Dome. I remember years a go Southern Miss was paid to move their home game with FSU to Jacksonville. It didn’t go so well for FSU, though. S. Miss had a guy named Brett something playing QB.

Slow Freddie

June 2nd, 2009
2:00 pm

I am not a UGA fan but I thought the on-campus stadium at Athens is called Sanford, not Samford. Which is it?

dan

June 2nd, 2009
2:01 pm

Huh?

Why? Why does ESPN need to kiss ESPN’s butt? I’m tired of that approach. UGA trying to get ESPN’s attention with impressive match ups and traveling to the west coast is just like a 2 year old trying to get mommy’s attention. It makes them look second rate IMO. Not to mention that adding all these tougher games to our schedule makes it that much tougher to go to the SEC Championship let alone the National Title.

Consider last season, UGA had to take a plane to Arizona State and then turn around a play a brutal home game against Alabama the next week. Did it get UGA exposure? Yes. But at what cost? This isn’t the NFL, where teams travel to the West Coast one week and the east coast the next.And even in the NFL, it’s pretty much understood that if you play a bunch of games across country, your win-loss record will suffer. If college football had a playoff system like the NFL( don’t worry I won’t be that horse) where 3 or 4 losses doesn’t hurt you, then it wouldn’t be a big deal. But what’s the point of playing across country if your team is going to be jet lagging the next week in an important conference matchup?

And if the SEC is considered the best football conference in the country( which should be a mute point by now), then why schedule all these Pac 10 games? Florida doesn’t do it and neither does Alabama. I say the hell with ESPN! UGA doesn’t need them. If the Dawgs go 11-1 or 12-0 in the SEC, ESPN is going to have to cover them whether they want to or not. If ESPN doesn’t respect what Mark Richt has done by now they’re not going to. So I say let’s win a National Title and change ESPN’s mind for them.

dan

June 2nd, 2009
2:08 pm

Huh?

Why? Why does UGA need to kiss ESPN’s butt? I’m tired of that approach. UGA trying to get ESPN’s attention with impressive match ups and traveling to the west coast is just like a 2 year old trying to get mommy’s attention. It makes them look second rate IMO. Not to mention that adding all these tougher games to our schedule makes it that much tougher to go to the SEC Championship let alone the National Title.

Consider last season, UGA had to take a plane to Arizona State and then turn around a play a brutal home game against Alabama the next week. Did it get UGA exposure? Yes. But at what cost? This isn’t the NFL, where teams travel to the West Coast one week and the east coast the next.And even in the NFL, it’s pretty much understood that if you play a bunch of games across country, your win-loss record will suffer. If college football had a playoff system like the NFL( don’t worry I won’t beat that horse) where 3 or 4 losses doesn’t hurt you, then it wouldn’t be a big deal. But what’s the point of playing across country if your team is going to be jet lagging the next week in an important conference matchup that could knock you out of National Title contention?

And if the SEC is considered the best football conference in the country( which should be a mute point by now), then why schedule all these Pac 10 games? Florida doesn’t do it and neither does Alabama. I say the hell with ESPN! UGA doesn’t need them! If the Dawgs go 11-1 or 12-0 in the SEC, ESPN is going to have to cover them whether they want to or not. If ESPN doesn’t respect what Mark Richt has done by now they’re not going to. So I say let’s win a National Title and change ESPN’s mind for them.

Fools Gold

June 2nd, 2009
2:38 pm

Yes the mickey mouse teams do require a lot of money for CMR’s gawdy record to look good. But as everyone knows in the collge football world , UGA and CMR just cant win the big ones. CMR also seems to play to the level of the S. Carolinas , vandys and Troys or UAB’s. Big time money spent by a Big Time Wanna Be fools gold program (UGA)…….

UGA VII in '08

June 2nd, 2009
3:21 pm

You guys sure do worry a lot about schedules and where games should be played and things.

You need to worry more about the enemies!

Saint Simons

June 2nd, 2009
4:12 pm

UGA will lose 6 games this year!!!!!!!!!

AltamahaDawg

June 2nd, 2009
4:16 pm

Native Atlantan, moving the game to home and home cost each school about 1.2 million a year. And how much more national exposure would some mid-level opponent gain be over losing one of the most widely recognized games in the country? What I really don’t get is how moving the game would ADD an extra game? What slot is lost by playing FL (wherever)? If you go to J-ville or Gainsville, how is that different as far as who we can schedule at home? Playing in Athens certainly doesn’t open anything up.

AltamahaDawg

June 2nd, 2009
4:16 pm

Which 6 and why?

TybeeDawg

June 2nd, 2009
4:36 pm

Where is Samford Stadium?

reservoirDAWG

June 2nd, 2009
4:40 pm

OK enough. Now the poll is will UGA win 8 games this season? We have recruited well and the last I checked we have some pretty good coaches. The AJC is doing a good job of firing up the nerd herd though.