Asher Allen ignored NFL projection

  Learned something interesting in a conversation with Asher Allen on Monday.

  Remember back in December when he and several other UGA underclassmen petitioned the NFL’s advisory board for a projection of their draft status?

   Well, when Allen surprisingly announced in January that he would enter the draft, he said he hoped to be a second-round pick but declined to say what round the advisory board had forecast for him.

   “I don’t want to get into that,” the Bulldogs’ junior cornerback said at the time.

   Here’s why:

   Allen told me Monday that the league’s advisory board actually projected that he would be a fifth- to seventh-round pick.

   “At first, I was, like, ‘What are you looking at?’” he said. “I didn’t know if they had the right paper.”

   But as he asked questions he realized, he said, that the advisory board tends to give underclassmen a conservative, “worst-case-scenario” projection so as not to overly encourage them to leave school.

   “Knowing what all was inside that [projection] made it a lot easier to grasp,” Allen said. “I understood where they were coming from, so I read it a little bit different.”

   And he never believed he’d be a fifth- to seventh-round pick.

   “I just didn’t think I’d go that low,” he said.

  Allen, as you know, was selected by Minnesota in the third round Sunday — a lot closer to his hope (second round) than to the advisory board’s projection.

   Looking back on his controversial and somewhat criticized decision to enter the draft a year early, Allen feels he made the right call. Playing with a broken hand in last year’s final five regular-season games reminded him that anything could happen injury-wise if he stayed another year. But the main factor, the Tucker High graduate said, was simply that he felt it was his time.

   “My decision to leave was pretty much just feeling I’m ready,” he said. “My dream is to play in the NFL, and the opportunity was right in front of me.

   “You never know when a season-ending injury may happen. You never know what may happen. But I did know the draft was coming, and I had an opportunity.

   “I’m happy with my decision.”

    Allen said he’s been in touch with his five Georgia teammates who were drafted: Matthew Stafford (Detroit), Knowshon Moreno (Denver), Mohamed Massaquoi (Cleveland), Corvey Irvin (Carolina) and Jarius Wynn (Green Bay).

   “Kind of funny,” Allen noted, “that all the boys except Corvey went somewhere cold.”

 

40 comments Add your comment

Spike

April 28th, 2009
6:56 am

Hated to see you go, but good luck!

MiltonDawg

April 28th, 2009
7:29 am

Glad to hear Southerland, Ellerbe, Harris and Goodman all got signed as well. Dawgs definetly represented this draft. This is exactly the kind of hype we need for recruiting. Moreno should be an instant star in Denver. Any news from Athens??

Reebok

April 28th, 2009
7:45 am

Tech fan here…congrats to all 10 Bulldogs who were drafted or signed free-agent contracts…that’s a very impressive showing…see you on the Flats in November.

Tim Tucker

April 28th, 2009
8:01 am

A few UGA sports news items not related to the NFL draft:
– The baseball team dropped from No. 1 to No. 6 in this week’s USA Today/ESPN coaches’ poll.
– This coming weekend’s baseball series vs. Florida at Foley Field is sold out.
– Larry Munson will be inducted into the National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association Hall of Fame at the organization’s awards program Saturday-Monday in Salisbury, N.C. Add that to Munson’s berths in the Georgia Sports Hall of Fame (2005) and the Georgia Association of Broadcasters Hall of Fame (1994). Richly deserved, all.
– Georgia’s tennis teams find out late today if they’ll host NCAA Championships first- and second-round matches. The SEC Tournament champion women’s team is ranked No. 3 nationally, the men’s team No. 4.

MiltonDawg

April 28th, 2009
8:37 am

Reebok, congrats to your Jackets as well. Looking forward to seeing Vance play for the Falcons. I look forward to the day we can watch Stafford to Johnson making deep plays and passes for Detroit.

we had a great gameplan but failed to execute.

April 28th, 2009
8:39 am

…too bad the players couldn’t have REPRESENTED GEORGIA LAST FALL!

glad we have gotten rid of another player whose primary objective was auditioning for the nfl.

i raise this point…..what on earth is the advantage of getting these “rental” players at uga? They use up scholarships, and, as we have seen, obviously, make no difference in our ability to compete for championships. furthermore, I would argue that they “poison the well,” because they are always going to be looking towards sunday.

Let me give you an example of what I mean. Who do you want on your team?

Poor asher allen played with a broken hand. According to Tim, it sounds like he was afraid of breaking more bones and hurting his chances of playing in the NFL. If that is one of our ‘defensive leaders,’ it’s little wonder why we underachieved last year.

Poor ole Rodney Hampton had knee surgery following one game and then rushed for 150 yards vs. ole miss the next week. He should have been concerned about hurting his NFL chances.

Poor ole Brett Farve had a few inches of his stomach cut out and then lead Southern Miss to victory vs. Alabama….He should have been worried about his NFL chances.

Poor ole Herchel Walker played the sugar bowl with a discloated shoulder. He should have been worried about his NFL chances.

Now, I know several of you are going to say, “but you can’t compare Asher Allen to Herschel Walker and Brett Farve, or even Rodney Hampton.”
I’m not comparing carrer achievements….I’m comparing MENTAL ATTITUDE.

As long as UGA continues to stock itself with these types of players, we will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. We will get lots of face time on espn, letterman, jimmy fallon, etc.

I’d rather have my team going to the white house to meet the president.

That’s the problem with most people…..they think being on TV, the cover of sports illustrated, and making millions equals success….when nothing could be father from the truth.

do not resuscitate

April 28th, 2009
9:11 am

@ we had a great gameplan:
I’m sure you would feel differently if you were in that position. But it’s nice and easy for you to criticize a team/players/coaches sitting in your comfy office chair.

Truth is, I would imagine most players coming into college have dreams of playing in the NFL. This is nothing confined strictly to UGA. You should remember that DJ, David Green, Pollack and more recently MoMass all stayed for 4 (or more) years, and all were drafted. Jeff Owens could have left, but stayed. UGA just happened to have a greater number of underclassmen leave this year than most. It happens. Get over yourself.

garageny

April 28th, 2009
9:13 am

My boy played with 2 strained nuts and and still caught the ball.

WTF???

April 28th, 2009
9:21 am

Maybe they should stop recruiting kids who’s dream is to “play in the NFL” and recruit kids that dream to play at UGA. I’m just sayin….

Mikey

April 28th, 2009
9:21 am

Gameplan: I think we do have a player like you mentioned. Joe Cox has that mental toughness.Rennie Curran does too.
It’s hard to question a young man’s decision when he goes from scraping enough money together for a burrito to guaranteed millions.

Those of us that work for a living would have done the same.It’s purely financial.

Pago Flyer

April 28th, 2009
9:27 am

Can we just beat uf and gt in something?! Yes, it would be nice to recruit kids who are want to win the SEC and not worry about the NFL….

Otto

April 28th, 2009
9:32 am

If you have the chance to make the money go. Look at Ricky Jean-Francois if he had gone earlier he would have received a much bigger pay day. If you can’t finish college, should you need to come back, living off your signing bonus then there is something wrong. College is there to better your career and chances of earning a better living. IMO these kids did that.

Otto

April 28th, 2009
9:35 am

Gameplan, Herschel Walker thought about challenging the rules to leave after his Soph. year and did leave after his Jr year.

Dawg Nation

April 28th, 2009
11:32 am

cant be anything but happy for all of them ….i just wonder what we would have done this year though if they all stayed????? I think they all play with a chip on their shoulders and make this our year…but woulda shoulda caouldas get ya no wehre.

Dorsey Hill

April 28th, 2009
11:55 am

gameplan,

First, you are an idiot. Second, there is no correlation between having players who aren’t focused on the NFL and winning championships. In fact, the correlation is exactly the opposite. If you don’t recruit guys who are capable and motivated to succeed at the next level then you can’t even compete in the SEC. Of course, we’d like all of these guys to stay, but how can you divine which 17 year old you recruit is or is not going to turn pro? You can’t. You get the best players you can and then they have to make their choices.

Me personally, I’d like to see an entire Junior class get drafted because that would have been one hell of a football team the fall before.

BTW: what do you call a Matthew Stafford getting drafted tenth in the 2010 draft and passing up on 41 million?

An idiot.

What do you call Knowshon Moreno sitting at St. Mary’s getting scoped after a ligament tear vs. Vandy in 2009?

An idiot.

These players are human being who have their own goals aspirations and families. That serving you and your needs aren’t at the top of that list is appropriate; not deserving of condemnation.

Huh?

April 28th, 2009
11:57 am

“At first, I was, like, ‘What are you looking at?’”

Uh, just a hunch Asher but they were probably looking at some of your game film where you were a virtual non-factor and getting worked like a circus clown by all the good offenses we faced in 2008. Good grief. That 4.3 forty saved this dude’s life or the 5th to 7th round was a strong possibility.

Voice of Reason

April 28th, 2009
12:21 pm

well i guess it is a good thing you don’t catch balls with your nuts, you catch them with your hands. Kind of hard to do that when one is broken moron.

Voice of Reason

April 28th, 2009
12:23 pm

allen was not the one who got burned a lot last year. he was the one corner that did cover well except very few times when he got penalized. It was Evans who was getting burned. don’t attribute the failure of a few UGA CBs to all UGA CBs. Asher was a DGD while he was in Athens. Best of luck to him.

Jeff

April 28th, 2009
12:33 pm

Asher made the right move…..even if he went in the 5th. Why would you want to play for a bonehead like CWM??? With the injury factor and the fact he’s not going to progress with “soft Willie” to coach him up……why stay…

CT

April 28th, 2009
12:41 pm

Re: Gameplan.

The problem with the argument is that teams that are winning championships are also putting plenty of players in the NFL. While I don’t know these players from said championship teams personally, I would venture a guess that the NFL has been a dream of theirs as well. So, I think Georgia should continue to recruit the best possible players (NFL dreamers are your best bet) and there will be a day where the chips will fall in the direction of Georgia. You have to continue to knock at that door. It would be a very, very stupid move to begin recruiting “b-team” players who have always “dreamed of playing for Georgia” and expected to win a title with that thought process. In the words of Colin Cowherd – say it out loud. “Our recruiting objectives have changed. Now we will begin recruiting less talented athletes who bleed red/black and have always wanted to play at Georgia rather than those who have aspirations of making it in the NFL because we think this will win us a title”. Now that you’ve heard it aloud, it makes even less sense.

Huh? – Great post. I was tracking right along with the committee on the 5th-7th round projection. They were also probably watching the 2-3 plays per game where he committed pass interference – at least one of which being inside Georgia territory.

wayne Martin

April 28th, 2009
12:59 pm

Asher Allen is the most overated player UGA ever had. He gave away so many penalties with his ill disciplined approach to the game that I am amazed that he was even drafted. He should have stayed in school and got a degree because he will soon be playing in the Arena Football League.

jdawg

April 28th, 2009
1:03 pm

whoo whoo! keep tooting that horn asher….you are THE MAN! can’t wait to see calvin johnson smoking you as he runs by you (or waves as he runs by while you are riding the pine) twice a year. Asher allen can suck it.

staff fan now

April 28th, 2009
1:18 pm

so, if you do not sign players with a dream of NFL, you will play against them (cause someone WILL sign them)!

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Otto

April 28th, 2009
1:39 pm

What good will a degree do in the Arena Football League? Maybe if he gets a MBA they will raise him a pay grade? If he is really that bad and was picked that high, maybe he made the right decision to leave before he was exposed.

scott

April 28th, 2009
3:17 pm

3rd round is hitting the jackpot???? With all the DBs in this year’s draft, I dont understand why waiting a year (and maybe getting a degree from UGA too, as there is life after 40 and after football) would not have been the best choice.

austindog

April 28th, 2009
4:02 pm

Chip, imagine Vince Dooley’s first year of coaching had been 1979, and he spent the next three seasons going 33-3 (while coincidentally having the most dominant player in college). Can that scenario be justifiably compared to what’s going on at UF right now? Does Meyer have those titles without Tebow, who is an equally if not a more dominant player than Walker was?

austindog

April 28th, 2009
4:29 pm

OR Tim, this being your column and all.

Cuz

April 28th, 2009
4:48 pm

I am happy for Asher, why all the criticism? If he was as bad as some of you write, then you should be glad he is gone. I wish him luck in the NFL.

Meyer without Tebow, what are you a madman? What’s next, peas without rice, biscuits without gravy, pizza without beer. That’t just crazy talk.

austindog

April 28th, 2009
4:52 pm

RichRod without White and Slaton? George OLeary without Quincy Carter?

SOUTHGADAWG88

April 28th, 2009
5:51 pm

The thing that kills me is a lot of people keep throwing out the get the degree B.S.If YOUR child went to UGA to be say an accountant and during their junior year they got offered a job with the premiere company in the world for accountants (WHOEVER THAT IS)lol at top dollar would you tell em to stay in school?Hell no.If one of these kids make it in the NFL guess what?let’s say he never becomes a superstar just a decent pro player,he gets to makes 1 million over 4 years..That’s small change in pro contracts… Had they stayed in school and got THAT DEGREE what?they get to get a job a year later at 75k a yr?and work 13 years to make the same money?I’d rather be an undrafted free agent in the NFL than an honor student with a law degree..I’d still make more money.Don’t kid yourself people go to college to get a high paying job period.

JB

April 28th, 2009
7:25 pm

My comment on Asher is that another year of experience could have helped him for two reasons. First, this was statistically the worst defense in UGA history so why go Pro after your worst year when you don’t have to? With Jeff Owens returning the D will be better. Second, next year’s CB class won’t be as strong as this year which also gives him better opportunity.

As for Stafford and Moreno, there’s no way either improves their draft position or the money they’re going to make. I hate to see them go but can’t blame them one bit.

AltamahaDawg

April 28th, 2009
8:16 pm

If we had an academic star on scholarship and he elected to skip his senior year to pursue a dream job of a lifetime………..Oh the outrage!

AltamahaDawg

April 28th, 2009
8:21 pm

When did we get to the point that folks who profess to be UGA fans get thier jollies by trashing our recent players.

PTC DAWG

April 28th, 2009
9:24 pm

ANYONE who comes here trashing ANY College Football player, is an IDIOT of the highest order. You are a JOKE. You know who you are.

BDAWG

April 29th, 2009
6:29 am

I’m just glad Terence Moore is gone myself. I’m just saying

Jim

April 29th, 2009
9:06 pm

Asher old boy I wish you the best of luck. Just remember UGA got you where you are today, but it’s up to you now to stay. Going in the third vs 5th or 6th is only a matter a teams needs and that someone saw something they liked in you. Hopefully you will get to play and make an early impact and not be used on the pratice squad to show receivers how to beat their man and score. Don’t forget even first rounds draft picks get cut so don’t toot your horn until you show us something.

scott

April 30th, 2009
11:19 am

yeah, getting a college degree is really a bad idea, and waiting a year and getting to be a 1st or 2nd round pick the next year and making even MORE money is even “more stupider.

Geeezuz H. Some of you people sound like my teen-agers. Complete inability to think further ahead and do what’s best FOR THE LONT TERM, not the RIGHT NOW.

Nick

May 1st, 2009
4:10 pm

Congrats and best of luck to you, Asher. It was a lot of fun watching you play the past three years.

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