Atlanta’s employee pension celebration is premature

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

● This president is a one-trick pony. He’s absent, and he shows up to string together empty words and phrases that are often highly partisan and polarizing. At this week’s news conference, he demonstrates that the 2012 campaign is under way. Said he: “If we choose to keep those tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires … then that means we’ve got to cut some kids off from getting a college scholarship. That means we’ve got to stop funding certain grants for medical research …” And, using a phrase invented by the left to “balance” recipients’ claims to somebody else’s money: “We’re going to have to tackle spending in the tax code.” If you believe that government owns all your earnings, then, yes, your income tax deduction is government’s spending.

● Decidedly good sense emanates from a three-judge panel on the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The panel rules that Congress certainly intended drinking water to be an intended use for Lake Lanier, along with power generation, navigation and recreation. It would have been the height of government absurdity if metro Atlanta had been denied drinking water to preserve downstream barge traffic.

● The mush-mouth middle position taken by a George W. Bush appointee to the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati upholding Obamacare’s mandate to buy health insurance should not comfort the law’s supporters. “The novelty of the individual mandate may indeed suggest a bridge too far, but it also may offer one more example of a policy necessity giving birth to an inventive (and constitutional) congressional solution,” wrote Judge Jeffrey Sutton. The case brought by 26 states that’s now before the 11th Circuit is the key challenge — though it’s still certain to go to the Supremes, probably this fall.

● Atlanta city politicians are touting their effort to contain public pension costs as a model for other cities across America. Maybe. But it won’t solve their problems — just as it won’t solve Atlanta’s. Yes, with the revisions, new hires will held to a benefit “multiplier” of 1, which is up to two-thirds less than existing plans, and current employees will pay 5 percent more of their salary to reduce fund shortfalls. New employees won’t much care — until a decade or more from now when they start calculating their own retirement benefits. That’s when they start pressuring the politicians to be “fair” and raise their “multipliers” back to what current employees have. And when the public’s not looking, politicians will. The self-praise is exaggerated — and without changing to defined-contribution systems, it will permanently fix nothing in other cities.

● Once upon a time, the Georgia Department of Transportation did a marvelous job of planning highway needs and addressing congestion before it got to gridlock. Then the neighborhood/parochial interests started messing with the DOT’s head, blocking traffic-flow solutions in Atlanta while demanding “alternatives.” It’s been a circus since. That historical observation is a prelude to noting the death this week of an important figure in Georgia DOT history, Emory C. Parrish. A Georgia Tech engineer, Parrish spent 34 years with the DOT, the last 16 as deputy commissioner. He was a visible, professional and highly competent leader.

● South Georgia cucumber farmers who now complain that HB 87 cripples their ability to harvest their crop should, actually, have paid attention to the debate in the Legislature and made provisions for harvesting before putting their money in the ground. Cucumbers require about two months from planting to harvest; those who complain weren’t blindsided. They planned poorly and made the bad choice to rely on illegal immigrants.

86 comments Add your comment

Cutty

June 30th, 2011
8:31 pm

You sir, are a the one-trick pony.

When a Circuit Court rules in favor or position they’re good. When a Circuit Court makes a ruling that doesn’t jibe with your horse and buggy ‘thinking’, its mush-mouthed.

If your beloved Cobb County had voted on the same pension reform, you’d be singing their praises. Can’t help but get a dig in on Atlanta.

Maybe the farmers don’t have the lobbyists like other corporate republicans.

Wooten- Same $hit. Different Day. Waiting on you to say something about the ethical issues clouding the Gold Dome. Won’t hold my breath.

Glenn

June 30th, 2011
9:52 pm

So much of this thinking, frankly, sings my beliefs and informs them as well. I’m arrested, however, by the reckoning of Judge Sutton of the Sixth Appelate. What I mean is, whatever, who went and made him King?

Glenn

June 30th, 2011
10:20 pm

Your Cutting remarks are so affectionately untrue that I wonder what is it in you that abhors an appreciation? Rememember when Jim would stage an annual, mock contest to see who could sing the better praises of teachers we happen to have known? Sometimes you flash that kind of outbreakingly sweet, bold daring. It’s really about the height of Jim’s craft, as you please will remember. Newspapering haunts me, Man. Evidently to the end of my days. Probably they’ll have to engrave the goddamn First on my tombstone. Maybe the ACLU would pay for that, in honor of the only Traditionalist who ever served. More likely MALDEF, my dear confederates from back before things turned lucrative. The truth is that nobody knows jurisprudence any longer, not least because we have a president who continues to insist that he was tenured in Law. Yet no one dares call him to disbarment for his moral turpitude. He did it again just the other day. If wishes were horses this lecturer would ride. The entire American professorial slouches just now. The Twelfth Century out the window FOR WHAT?

Mr. Dithers

June 30th, 2011
10:30 pm

Jim, you ignorant…Get a new gig. This one is worn out. It’s not just the illegals that are not coming to GA, it’s legal ones who don’t want to be hassled. You know that, yet you attack the farmer because they aren’t supporting the immigration law. As if they planned on harvesting their crops using only illegal aliens. Get a clue, please.
I also have heard enough about your ideas of jurisprudence. You hate activist judges unless they act in accord with your beliefs. Your opinion on judges and legal opinions has almost nothing to do with sound principles of law and everything to do with ideology, the same characteristic you decry in any judge that doesn’t agree with you. It’s two sides of the same coin, and frankly, it’s stale.
Glenn, do your remarks come with a translation guide? Judge Sutton was doing his job, not acting as king. Again, just because he doesn’t agree with you and your ideology is no reason to attack him personally. Leave that to Rush, Sean and the other intellectual giants of the right.

Glenn

June 30th, 2011
10:39 pm

The wee piggy keeps calling himself a law professor from U of C. Not only is that farfetched but my God, in law, look, to make a claim to their law faculty is really a substantial thing. People do take notice. Our President incessantly insists that he was a tenured Professor at the university I happen to honor the most. You all know that the President is lying but you won’t say, will you? By the way I used to lecture in Con Law–best job I ever had–but I never passed myself off as a professor. The American President is quite fancy that way.

Road Scholar

July 1st, 2011
5:48 am

Glenn: Bless your heart!

Mr Dither’s: Right on!

Yosemite Sam

July 1st, 2011
6:21 am

I feel sorry for a room full of students having to listen to Glenn prattle on. (16 words)

Clinton "Skink" Tyree

July 1st, 2011
7:06 am

I believe Glen is the other personality of Will the Jeffersonian Exegesis and he, too, needs to get back on his meds.

Mr. Dithers is right on.

It must be particularly gauling that Dubya appointed the judge that made the decision. It’s all for naught, anyway. The right leaning Supreme Court, who never saw a Big Business it didn’t like, will rule against it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they weren’t in the mountains of Colorado last week getting their instructions.

Glenn

July 1st, 2011
7:35 am

Cool, Mr. Dithers et al. May god Almighty truly bless your diseased heart, as well as your spleen and a couple of your kidneys, please let’s get into discomfiture over the composition of th High Court. Yes, it’s worrisome and Yes, politicians do tend to stack that deck. But please that’s the remaining thing for us to hold sacrosanct. Without that, scratch. And I don’t want to go to war. It’s not a dare, as you know, but rather is a stupid plea.

Clinton "Skink" Tyree

July 1st, 2011
8:29 am

Holy crap! Some of the folks posting on these blogs are totally demented and should be on meds.

Buzz G

July 1st, 2011
8:36 am

At the age of 17 I raised my own cucumbers. I picked them and sold them commercially. The funds I made I saved and used to fund my college education. That was in the 1960’s. Kids now days borrow the money they need for college and illegal aliens get the cucumber picking money. We have gotten lazy and illegal aliens have made it possible. I sure how HB 87 helps turn things around.

The Beat

July 1st, 2011
8:40 am

Wooten is a threadbare humantiarian whose unsympathetic tirade suits him to a Tea. He spares no enemy: not cucumber harvesters, not pensioners, nor judges nor presidents. His last paragraph is warrantless Tea Thinking. What should we do with the cucumber harvesters? On our list of priorities, where should we put the cucumbers? Cucumbers!! Of course. Oh, they’ll do nicely. But we musn’t be too hasty. These things have to be handled……delicately.

Pounding Hooves

July 1st, 2011
8:49 am

Today, Wooten barges right in to the GOP group think. Calling our prez a one trick pony over the tax code is putting the cart before the horse. Tax breaks make a lot of hay for the few. My mane point here is let’s get a grip on the reins of tax codes.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink from Lake Lanier.

To oppose Obamacare is to look a gift horse in the mouth, man.

The math that Wooten uses to support pension cuts makes good horse sense. I never knew calculus like that was possible. It reminds me of how well Trigger could count!

In truth, I’ve yet to meet a GOP woman half as reliable as a good horse.

ragnar danneskjold

July 1st, 2011
8:57 am

Good morning all. The “one-trick pony” reflects sharp perception; I referred to same as “Chauncey Gardener” the first time I heard his prattle.

Old friend Mid-South Philosopher would appreciate our host’s “corporatist” disparagement of the lower court rulings on water.

There was a funny line in the 6th Circuit ruling, I think by the senior judge, acknowledging that the appellate court ruling does not resolve the matter, that it will certainly go to the Supreme Court. The “mush mouth” middle guy did not say exactly what the papers are reporting, either; he affirmed that the “individual mandate” can only be enforced against those who currently have health insurance – thus a meaningless ruling – and that there is not yet any uninsured individual with standing to challenge the law, as the mandate has not taken effect against currently uninsureds. Technically a logical argument, but only kicks the can down the road. Or maybe he just licked his middle finger and raised it into the wind.

One suspects that Jim’s cynicism (on the Atlanta pensions reform) is well founded.

There is surely some vulgar joke in the ethos conjoining the cucumber farmers’s labor shortage and the Anthony Weiner scandal, but I think I would not wish to try to create it.

carlosgvv

July 1st, 2011
9:01 am

Republicans are entirely dependent on the rich for their election and re-election campaing funding. Since this is all they care about, they will gladly throw the poor, sick, elderly and students needing scholarships under the bus in order to keep getting that cash. They are very open about this because they are convinced their simple followers will vote for them no matter how openly unethical they are. And, sadly, they are right.

ragnar danneskjold

July 1st, 2011
9:08 am

Dear carlosgvv @ 9:01, good morning. Would you also agree that the “Democrats are entirely dependent on the leeches for their election?”

eatmotacos

July 1st, 2011
9:19 am

The illegal alien advocates would change their tunes if twenty plus illlegal aliens, with a dozen vehicles, moved into the three bedroom house next door. There are thousands of people in Georgia for whom this is a reality – many elderly people on fixed incomes, who cannot afford to move. I have yet to see any reporting on, or compassion shown for this group, who are innocent victims of our political corruption.

The farmers, who are just strawmen, hire a miniscule percentage of the illegal aliens residing in Georgia, and yet they get all of the press. Their story is a diversion from the real culprits; the chicken, lint farmers(carpet mills), and hospitality industry, among others.

The other part of this story that gets no press coverage, is the massive numbers of Hispanic opportunists, that follow and make their livings from the illegal aliens. They have no intention of assimilating into our society – on the contrary, they are displacing our citizens from, not only the workplace, but the small business community, by skirting our laws at will. One example of this, is the thousands of small contractors, who abide by our labor and tax laws, and as a result, cannot compete with this openly lawsless faction.

The bottom line is that a precedent is being set by those who skirt our laws at will, and without consequences. If the citizens don’t reel in the politicians, who are enabling those who break our laws for profit, you can expect an escalation of lawlessness. Our country is on the path to becoming just another corrupt Banana Republic.

BILL SAVAGE

July 1st, 2011
9:23 am

THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZER IS IN DIRE NEED OF ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE TO UNDERWRITE A MASSIVE EXPANSION OF THE WELFARE STATE. I HAVE THE SOLUTION FOR HIS PROBLEM: SHARE THE MISERY BY ALLOWING THE 47% OF WAGE EARNERS WHO PAY NO INCOME TAXES TO SHARE THE TAX BURDEN. PROBLEM SOLVED !

kc

July 1st, 2011
9:23 am

i wonder if wooten rooted for the sheriff of nottingham vs robin hood in his youth?

T

July 1st, 2011
9:27 am

Wooten didn’t have a problem when the Republicans raised the deficit 5 trillion dollars from 2000-2008 and raised the debt ceiling 15 times. Such hypocrites!

Rob Woodall Has Never Held a Job in the Private Sector

July 1st, 2011
9:37 am

The South Georgia cucumber farmers made a mistake in believing their elected representatives would actually represent them. But what alternative did they have?

Let’s assume they “planned ahead” and recruited a different work force. Their costs would have likely risen since no employer would reasonably want to break the law if he/she could avoid doing so without incurring additional costs.

They would be noncompetitive with the market due to their higher costs and prices. Kroger and Publix would then import more cucumbers from Honduras or Ecuador, because we don’t want to pay more for American products (or locally grown products for that matter).

South Georgia cucumber farmer’s products would be rotting on the loading dock rather than in the field, he would have incurred higher costs to pick and process his product, and he would have had to file bankruptcy even sooner than he’s going to have to anyway.

Thinking right. Sure. You’ve got an answer for everything but a solution for nothing.

RGB

July 1st, 2011
9:41 am

“To oppose Obamacare is to look a gift horse in the mouth, man.”

Tell that to the 80 to 100 million people expected to lose the health insurance provided them through their employers. Add to that the businesses that will close because they can’t afford the financial burdens imposed by ObamaCare. Some gift horse.

“In truth, I’ve yet to meet a GOP woman half as reliable as a good horse.”

In truth, most of the lib women I’ve met (and their partners) look like horses–especially the elected ones.

RGB

July 1st, 2011
9:44 am

“Wooten didn’t have a problem when the Republicans raised the deficit 5 trillion dollars from 2000-2008 and raised the debt ceiling 15 times. Such hypocrites!”

Even if true, isn’t our indebtedness a problem that we should solve? Or should we say “well, since Wooten didn’t complain about it when Republicans did it, then we shouldn’t solve the problem even though it’ll destroy the country.”

That’s government thinking if I ever saw it.

eatmotacos

July 1st, 2011
9:50 am

@Rob……

Your argument is invalid. If you do a little research, you will find that many of those farms in Honduras and Ecuador are owned by the government subsidized, south Georgia corporate farmers.
They are the ones importing to Kroger and Publix.

“The once seasonal operation is now multi-national with locations in Peru, Mexico and Ecuador. Its domestic locations span the nation: Georgia, Florida, Utah, Pennsylvania, New York, California.”
“blandfarms.com”

This whole argument about the South Georgia farmers is bogus. Why do they receive all of the press?

carlosgvv

July 1st, 2011
10:09 am

ragnar danneskjold

1. So, you agree with my assesment of the Republicans?
2. Who or what are these “leeches” you speak of?

Rob Woodall wants you to keep paying for his healthcare, while you pay for your own healthcare, and help your elderly parents pay their healthcare

July 1st, 2011
10:45 am

Taco Man,

Your post makes no sense. If you’ve done some research that contradicts my point, put a link in there to back up your assertion.

1. I don’t believe I am wrong when I say that Georgia growers would need to pay higher wages in order to employ documented American citizens.

2. I also don’t believe it is a stretch to say these growers would gladly employ citizens if they were available at a comparable rate.

These growers are now claiming that they cannot find workers to pick their produce and Jim was chastising them for not planning ahead. If they had planned ahead they would have higher costs for picking their cucumbers. Retailers would be reluctant to purchase those cucumbers because others are available at lower prices (from overseas or even from other states that continue to look the other way and allow undocumented farm workers).

The agriculture industry in Georgia is being asked to fight with one arm tied behind its back. That is not bogus. That is why they are receiving all of the press.

Thinking right. Sure. You’ve got an answer for everything but a solution for nothing.

If they had planned ahead and had citizens lined up to pick their produce their costs would be higher.

Hillbilly D

July 1st, 2011
11:46 am

the Georgia Department of Transportation did a marvelous job of planning highway needs and addressing congestion

Must have been before I was born. I’m only in my 50’s, though.

They planned poorly and made the bad choice to rely on illegal immigrants.

You reap what you sow. Farmers should know that, as well as anybody.

Sure, reap what you sow

July 1st, 2011
12:16 pm

An answer for everything. A solution for nothing.

Worthless.

Glenn

July 1st, 2011
3:47 pm

Well I am both assuredly demented AND on meds, so am fully qualified to comment here…

Ragnar, very witty, my friend. It hadn’t occurred to me that we all, for now, lack standing to complain to the Bench about the healthcare mandate. This pickle is an interesting cucumber. To your knowledge is this weird limbo precedented? I’m strapped. It seems a dangerous ploy on Pelosi’s part. I seem to recall having been told as a child that I have a right to petition for redress, yet for the next few years I have no such right. Them’s fightin’ words, Mister.

The Beat @8:40: Very, very good. I wish you were indeed a Beat.

Glenn

July 1st, 2011
3:56 pm

Dear Ragnar,

The Speaker instructed us to read the published bill, and true son of the House that I am I followed her instructions. As you may recall I know only Con Law, and nothing of torts, contracts, pocedure, etc. But on its face this nasty piece of work makes my blood boil. I can’t see how a bunch of lawmakers thought this thing would pass muster. Can you?

Darrell

July 1st, 2011
5:39 pm

“South Georgia cucumber farmers who now complain that HB 87 cripples their ability to harvest their crop…”

I don’t like cucumbers so I don’t care. But please, get the remaining “undocumented workers” over to the Vidalia area to take care of my onions!

Not So Casual Observer

July 1st, 2011
7:22 pm

Interesting the Left does not recognize the 60 year parade created by their leaders to produce a “dependent class” formed from those 47% of workers who do not pay income tax. Add the 47% to those who have no plan to ever earn a living and, Wonder of Wonders, there is an inept buffoon elected President in 2008.

The Democrats do not care if the Republic collapses, their plan is to create the one-world order and in the words of David Rockefeller, “They will have all of the money”!

The good, little non-thinking Lefties (are you reading this carlosgv?) will just follow BO, Pelosi and Reid right into the sewer.

Glenn

July 1st, 2011
7:36 pm

That’s spirit! We really could do with an honest and fair guest worker program. I’ve seen the horrors first-hand in the fields, and frankly the conditions–not everywhere, but far too frequently–disgrace our states and our country. Generally I’m a classical traditionalist, but when it comes to undocumented farmworkers I don my lefty social-justice hat right quick. I’d gladly pay a little more for my pickles and onions just to sleep a little better. I never want to see again young parents, on half salaries, bent over short-handled hoes and denied fresh drinking water and decent toilet facilities simply on grounds that they have no business being up here, harvesting our crops. That just don’t cut it with me. Robert Kennedy was right about this outrage, and here it is 43 years after his murder and we’re still stuck in Steinbeck country.

@@

July 1st, 2011
8:16 pm

Atlanta city politicians are touting their effort to contain public pension costs as a model for other cities across America. Maybe. But it won’t solve their problems — just as it won’t solve Atlanta’s.

No it won’t. What they’ve done is create a future stash of haves and have nots — the Democratic Party’s drug of choice.

Glenn

July 1st, 2011
8:28 pm

Not So Casual Observer: Accepting that your diagnosis is correct how do you reckon we got into this mess, aside from the vote-buying you cite? Would you wish to finger the professoriat, for example? Speaking of which, why do the hacks continue to allow our President to describe himself as a former professor when in fact he never was one? He made this foolish claim again just day before yesterday. I guess it’s become habitual for him because he gets away with it every time. It seems to me that voters across the spectrum have got to stare coldly at a one-termer and formulate their very best plans for guiding the Union after his departure. Seriously, I feel that Democrats, Republicans and Independents should face facts right now and make better plans. If the Democrats want to draft Hillary or somebody else, then fine. But Barack is a non-starter and this isn’t the season for the kiddie table, if you take my meaning. Even my Democratic friends on The Hill privately admit that the game is up, yet the Party takes no action. It’s exactly as you say, at heart they are hookers not patriots. That’s deeply sad, as there’s is the oldest, most distinguished political party in the world. It seems that, basically, they have given up democracy as an ideal–I sure hope I’m wrong–and instead just want to produce as many Remuses and Romuli as possible. Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson both had strategic gifts. Surely they must have recognized that their politicking was ushering in a nanny state we couldn’t sustain. Even JFK saw the need for a “course-correction”, as he liked to put it. But he and Carter, both Navy, were unusually serious presidents given to charting waters. I’m not suggesting anything summative of either of them, but if you possibly could stomach the exercise you might want to ask what went wrong with the Democratic Party. Perhaps, in a way, that’s what you already asked. A lot of folks are asking this now, but just not doing so openly.

Glenn

July 1st, 2011
8:30 pm

It looks like several of us are on the same page.

@@

July 1st, 2011
9:06 pm

It looks like several of us are on the same page.

With a total of 37 comments…38 counting this one.

Glenn

July 1st, 2011
9:26 pm

Yeah, well, that’s way it goes these days, since Maestro became an absentee landlord.. Say, I miss Get A Life, and wonder what became of that curious, spunky guy. He was a good goad.

Emil

July 1st, 2011
9:36 pm

Does Wooten really think Georgia farmers were sandbagging while legislators were planning to decimate their labor pool? (July 1,’11) “They planned poorly and made the bad choice to rely on illegal immigrants.” Really! Wooten needs to talk to some of the other AJC reporters who have been talking to farmers and reporting otherwise.

Now we’re getting the story about the other side of the immigrant cost picture with the Georgia Agribusiness Council estimating Georgia could lose up to $1 billion due to unpicked and unprocessed crops. It seems to be the same in other states who’ve implemented their own immigrant reform. The immigration can has been kicked down the road a long time, but it’s bigger than a state can resolve. And while we’re grappling with the issue on a national basis let’s remember people are capital and a resource, believe it or not: more so than livestock even.

@@

July 1st, 2011
9:36 pm

Glenn:

Quality beats quantity on any given day…Friday thru Friday.

(IW&SH)

Glenn

July 1st, 2011
9:46 pm

Fresh from beating Seattle like a gong our Braves are now humiliating Baltimore. Meet me at The Ted. This is a fun way to celebrate Independence! Speaking of which, did anybody notice the story last week of the American schoolboy, of about 12 years as I recall, who complained to his mom that the campus scuttlebutt that day had to do with some brouhaha in the press involving suppression of the Pledge at another school? Asked the boy of his mother, “What is the Pledge of Allegiance?”. The poor lad had never encountered the thing. Guess he won’t win appointment to West Point.

Glenn

July 1st, 2011
10:16 pm

Emil you are right. It really is another example of the terrible leadership vacuum in DC. I admire the moderates there who are trying to cross the aisle in pursuit of “comprehensive” immigration reform, because I can’t see how the situation can be resolved piecemeal. MALDEF, in San Antonio, has a very prudent director and truly I wish he would pull up his trousers and press this issue to the High Court in the manner of Thurgood. It really needs to be done, and once it’s done everybody, employers, employees and taxpaying consumers alike, probably all will be better off. But I fear the Supremes will have to fill the vacuole. If you happen to conceive of this country, as Jefferson did, as a mechanism for dispelling deceit, then pro ably you’ll appreciate how much money and trouble and truth will be saved, from Grady Hospital to the fields of Vidalia, once we rid ourselves of this furtive insult of simple decency. I’ve started reading 87 but fear to continue out of dread. The Governor and General Assembly bloody well CAN do that, just like the yellerdog dog on the porch, but Caesar’s Ghost should they do? Since this is a picnic weekend when traditionally we can mix with our electeds maybe one of us will ask one of them just what exactly they mean to accomplish. The penny-pinching law-and-order approach generally is my church but it’s insufficient here. You’re quite right.

Glenn

July 1st, 2011
10:35 pm

@@: If you’ll provide the one I’ll supply the other, on any given Friday.

What Are You, An Idiot?

July 1st, 2011
10:53 pm

Glenn, I call BS on your “. I’d gladly pay a little more for my pickles and onions just to sleep a little better.” statement.

Can you describe your process for seeking out local produce, since you would gladly pay more? Exactly what steps do you take to try to minimize the Steinbeckian circumstances of farm laborers?

Glenn

July 2nd, 2011
12:12 am

Oh. That’s easy. I’m oblivious at the checkout counter. I do nothing virtuous. Once I met Alice Waters and she’s a terribly obnoxious snob. No, I’m out to lunch on the fresh/local front. Am just saying that if I pay more for your onions or somebody’s cucumbers I’ll forego my Fruit Loops or whatever to make up the difference on the produce if I have any assurance that the actual harvesters no longer are treated as animals. I don’t want offend you. Once I saw farmworkers living in dugout caves above a brackish creek that sufficed as their latrine and their only source of drnking water. Elsewhere I watched a harvester die from sepsis due to a simple cut on his finger. The growers forbade even rudimentary First Aid and as his fever built he was cut out of the morning shape-up until he died, tended only by fellow workers who shared portions of their own pay with him to help make up the difference. And in several places I’ve learned how immediately dangerous it can be to try unionize workers or speed their citizenship or even get them some rudimentary medical assistance. Once I was threatened at gunpoint for trying to smuggle antibiotics and bandaging to farmworkers. What I’m saying is that in breach of our laws we have nurtured a nightmare, and it’s time that we wake ourselves UP!

Glenn

July 2nd, 2011
12:18 am

That’s why I referred to Steinbeck.

Glenn

July 2nd, 2011
12:51 am

By the wayI’d prefer that reform not be issued from our Gold Dome, or handed down from the U.S. Supreme Court. We all could agree that it would be better were it the product of a general change of heart. And yes I am sensible of the macroeconomics but I haven’t even broached the realities of sweatshop conditions here in America. Trust me, though: were T.R. still alive he definitely would put some stick to this problem. It would so offend his peculiar Presbyterian sensibilities, and those of his parents and his maternal Grandmother. JFK also would have been out front on this. Mr. Carter too. Dubya you’ll recall tried to address it, but he blew it with The Hill, and the present incumbent seems to defer it to a second term that won’t happen. John presented to Nixon a rather strident plan (asI recall, a vast revival of the old Bracero Program), but by that point Nixon had hobbled himself. I’m trying to say that this mess is something that mature persons of good will no longer should defer. If the Governor and legislators are willing to address it then that’s good, but I agree with Emil that it really ought to occupied by the Feds, and we all know that the two parties have different dogs in this hunt. I wasn’t kidding about MALDEF. They really could ride to the rescue. I was just conferring with a former pastor of mine, my ex-boss actually. I’m generally Right and he’s consistently Left but we both are thinking that this is shaping up as the preeminent social justice scandal of our time. Damn.

Glenn

July 2nd, 2011
1:40 am

Apologies. The John to whom I referred was Ehrlichman, who actually spent a lot of time on this problem, to no avail.

Shrilling Temples

July 2nd, 2011
9:35 am

…and I think it’s a shame that Glenn’s mother didn’t raise him to be a nicer girl!

You Know Who---TBO

July 2nd, 2011
11:42 am

Well, I must confess to all of you here on ‘Thinking Right’. As all know, I have appeared under numerous monikers, different religions, many times making you the right and left wingers confused and bewildered when I surmise about minions and such.
My better half and I will still attend this weekend’s weekly Muslim Brotherhood’s secretive covered dish dinner at Fort Gillam. I cannot wait until the lids are taken off everyone’s home cooked meal. This I can talk about. The message we will be given I cannot let out. I wish I could.