Meddling in boards goes too far

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

● After playing President Undecider through the turmoil in Egypt, Libya, Yemen and elsewhere, President Barack Obama did his best George W. imitation, practically stealing his words, while teaming up with the Europeans to launch cruise missiles and drop bombs under U.N. direction on a nation that has no strategic importance to the United States, thus advantaging a group whose commitment to democracy is unknown. Though American lives were put on the line, the war that is being led
 by us, the French — or some committee of nations — did not rise to the importance that would warrant the interruption of Obama’s tour of South America.

● Since my first days in metro Atlanta decades ago, commissioners and legislators have been fighting about how to structure county government. Legislation introduced by state Rep. Kathy Ashe of Atlanta would make the Fulton County chairman full time with authority to hire and fire the county manager and department heads. The proposal, writes the AJC’s Johnny Edwards, “is the latest attempt to reform a government criticized as dysfunctional and fiscally bloated.”

● Look, we can’t propose legislation to change every local government that’s considered “dysfunctional and fiscally bloated.” While I have no dog in this fight, my belief in general is that school accrediting authorities and state legislators should steer clear of squabbling school boards and other local governments and allow voters to fix the troubles they created. Fulton County Commissioner Emma Darnell comes up with a pretty good rule of thumb for messing with the locals. Says she: “We’re not broke and nobody’s been indicted.”

● Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed wants the Legislature to give him authority to appoint members of the Atlanta school board. Never. Yes, the board has its divisions. But many of us recall that not so long ago the school board was the anchor of sanity while the Atlanta City Council had the franchise on dysfunctionality.

● The archaic practice of penalizing students because their schools lose accreditation should be ended. If students can gain college admission on their own merit, they should get in, regardless of the failure of adults in the local school system to be responsible.

● A judge appointed by former Gov. Roy Barnes tosses out a 31-count indictment against the locally influential former Cobb County EMC president Dwight Brown, a client of Barnes’ law firm, because the indictment proceeding had been moved to a courtroom “inaccessible” to the public. Here’s a reform the new Republican majority under the Gold Dome ought to consider: Prohibit a judge from hearing cases where the client is represented by a lawyer who, as governor, appointed him to the bench. The prohibition should apply to the governor’s firm, as well.

● One of the greatest shockers of the whole HOPE scholarship debate has been the revelation that special legislation was required to guarantee that the top two graduates of every high school in Georgia — the valedictorian and the salutatorian — would qualify for the full HOPE ride regardless of whether they finished with a high B average. These are not schools. They’re instructional holding facilities.

● When an adult proposes to take a human life, a 24-hour waiting period, as Georgia requires for abortions, or a 36-hour period, as South Dakota just required, is a whiff of time. One of these days “children’s rights” will amount to something other than a liberal advocacy group’s wordsmithing for more government social spending. At conception, children have a right to life. At birth, they have a right to a mother and father nurturing them to adulthood.

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Peter

March 25th, 2011
11:06 am

Hey J.B. Stoner-(the white one)…..did Bush ever visit New Orleans after Katrina ?

Junior Samples

March 25th, 2011
11:28 am

What’s the deal with all of the liberals ALWAYS bringing up Dick Cheney. Did he kick sand in their faces at the beach or something? It must be part of the liberal playbook. C’mon. enough already…find you a new villian like Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck.

Peter

March 25th, 2011
12:29 pm

Junior Samples…. Do we have a deficit ? Does it matter to you or Republican’s ?

Cheney said it doesn’t…….that is why he is brought up, besides the fact he bilked America.

Steve

March 25th, 2011
12:47 pm

Peter, the seeds of the financial collapse were sown under 8 years of Clinton, which would be pre-Bush…

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 25th, 2011
1:00 pm

It is now painfully evident that the American commander in chief wears a dress and was formerly a first lady. At least there is one there who will answer the 3 AM call.

I have the solution to Georgia’s and Fulton County’s dysfunctional government. We build a nuclear reactor in the Gold Dome with no protective shield, then after powering up to full capacity we drain the water.

Inquiring minds want to know: what purpose is served by a school accrediting authority? Is it to keep college admissions offices and employers from having to do any real thinking? Re our host’s fifth paragraph, is it not painfully apparent to all that grades and institutions now have no meaning or relevance (for college admissions offices) compared to SATs? If you doubt it, note the competition for the home-schooled geniuses.

The Cobb County EMC case will surely be overturned on appeal, so corrupt is the rationale (the suggestion of conflict of interest notwithstanding.) That is why we have a court of appeals, at least in theory.

I am now comfortable with my idea that the Hope program should be expanded from mere gambling to incorporate sales of formerly illicit hard drugs, such as cocaine and heroin. Sell those at the convenience stores too. And maybe prostitution too. And let’s make alcohol sales a ward of the state too.

I think a prospective victim of an abortion ought to enjoy the same protections as a felon convicted of a capital crime – 20 years of appeals in the Federal courts.

Hillbilly Deluxe

March 25th, 2011
4:49 pm

A judge appointed by former Gov. Roy Barnes tosses out a 31-count indictment against the locally influential former Cobb County EMC president Dwight Brown, a client of Barnes’ law firm, because the indictment proceeding had been moved to a courtroom “inaccessible” to the public.

Can’t say this comes as a surprise.

tar and feathers party

March 25th, 2011
6:31 pm

Here is wishing a heart attack on royTheCrook…..and his appointees…..imho….he he ha ha

Right minded

March 25th, 2011
6:48 pm

Peter, oh poor Peter
Continually spouting mindless dribble about W simply won’t distract from the inadequate job BO has done to date. W’s last year’s deficit, deficit for one year and with the assistance of Harry Reid and Queen Nancy Peolsi was in the $240 billion range, way too much. However, the Obama deficit for February, the year’s shortest month, was $235 Billion!!!

As for your ongoing Cheney allegations, son they don’t compare to the SEIU, AFL-CIO, UAW deals by Obama. Erasing the bond debt GM owed to Bondholders for having loaned GM millions and then “giving” the UAW 45% interest in the new GMC and having taxpayers become liable for the Union pension reeks of FAR more impropriety than anything Cheney may have done. Canceling Dealership agreements which had been in existence since GM began awarding dealerships without reason is worthy of and deserving of investigation. Who were certain long term dealerships cancelled, ones which had performed well through the years yet others with less successful records retained? Obama refused to offer any explanation. Why was drilling halted in the Gulf? Why did Obama shout “drill Brazil drill” last week while visiting there? Why did Obama approve a massive loan to a joint private public venture to develop a newly discovered oil reserve beneath the Atlantic off the Brazilian coast? Does the shutdown of Gulf drilling and Brazil have any connection? Interesting George Soros is the private investor with the Govt in Brazil. He won’t allow drilling off our coasts, nor anywhere else, yet encourages Brazil. Hmmm, you think there’s a payback to Soros?

Then there are all those meetings with SEIU boss Andy Stern. Stern has more Oval Office meetings than any Cabinet member, some Cabinet members haven’t met with Obama since he took office. I suppose it’s tough to fit your job in with all those vacations and the golf. God forbid we will have time for Andy Stern and to organize protests in Wisconsin by hired thugs. So Presidential. Then there are the lies to pass Obamacare.

Keep believing Peter, keep believing. In your world the moon is made of green cheese, the cow jumps over it, pigs fly, and Obama is doing a phenomenal job.

Glenn

March 25th, 2011
8:43 pm

Probably I should have some strong opinions about this column’s theme, local governance and school governance, as I’ve spent most of my life doing policy and law in those areas. Yet really the issues are so interlocking–interlocking also with local finance–that something like an overarching design is needed that would lend greater coherence and consistency to governance and finance, and public administration, in Georgia. In some states it’s considered better to appoint sheriffs, for example, rather than to elect them, but other places take the opposite view. In the U.S. sometimes the local CFO is appointed, sometimes elected. Sometimes school boards appoint the school superintentendent and sometimes that person is elected, though I’ve never heard of a school chief choosing his own board.

So I’d have to know more about some matters? Why is Georgia’s local structure inconsistent and still in flux? What role does Georgia’s state, regional and municipal history play in these variations? Is it wise to construe local governance in GA, especially school governance, in terms of Atlanta, and then the rest of this big state? What are the special challenges of diverse geographic sections of the state that may require tailoring governance and public finance to those particular places?

In many states the metropolitan areas quite cheerfully cover the cost of basic services in remote or agricultural (therefore non-populous) or relatively poor areas. (Consider, for example, that in several of the northern states the tax base of the rural counties is insufficient even to cover the annual cost of snow removal); still, there remains a sense of statehood and of interdepence that means that sometimes the urbanites get spooled and sometimes the outlanders do. The sibling rivalries, though, are part of what knits a state like Minnesota or South Dakota or Alaska or Hawaii as a family, a state polity.

One minor flag, though, from experience. School chiefs should not hire school CFOs. It’s better when the two report individually to a governing board. Very few educational administrators are sophisticated in fiscal nuts&bolts, just as the business managers shouldn’t be expected to excel at pedagogical theory or educational leadership. I could offer horror stories from big urban school districts across America that didn’t construe the differences betwixt these bailiwicks.

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 25th, 2011
10:16 pm

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 26th, 2011
10:29 am

Right minded is spot on…………..

Poor Peter is like the rest of this country that keeps it’s head in the sand and pays NO attention to the world spinning around them…

Yeah, go ahead , blame it on “W”, Chaney,etc.

Your boy ,Peter (B.O.) IS ABSOLUTELY THE WORST EXCUSE OF A LEADER IN AMERICAN HISTORY……

You, little boy make me puke.

liberalefty

March 26th, 2011
11:20 am

black men dont need to prove we’re tough…WE KNOW WE’RE tough…i know insecure rednecks like JIM dont realize that….

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 26th, 2011
11:25 am

I know one in the “White House” who ISNT TOUGH…………..

liberalefty

March 26th, 2011
11:32 am

@jb

yes HE IS…his daddy is black which makes him way more tougher than BUSH…u whites equate toughness with talk[BUSH]…blacks know we’re tougher we dont need to “talk tough”…lol…WE ARE TOUGH

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 26th, 2011
11:54 am

yeah,ol-lefty…………………

That’s why this ‘leader’ stands back, takes the follow and NOT the lead in a war against Lybia..
EVER SEEN AMERICA TAKE UP THE REAR BEFORE?

HELL NO YOU HAVEN’T…LOL ,D.A.

liberalefty

March 26th, 2011
12:06 pm

@JB

DUDE america IS already fightin g 2 wars…and it doesnt take courage to send men to die like BUSH did in IRAQ…sending military men to die is not toughness, but you wouldnt know that would you…youre white conservative that equates tough talk to toughness…BUSH was just a cowardly fake tough guy that appeals to white guys like you…lol…to black folks BUSH is just a phony coward born with a silver spoon in his mouth….in other words we see BUSH like we see most white guys[ soft and pale]

liberalefty

March 26th, 2011
12:17 pm

no president looked as stooooooooooooopid as BUSHY THE COWEBOY did on 9/11…god he looked pathetic and foolish

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 26th, 2011
1:03 pm

DA LEFTY.

Yo boy is as sorry as it comes.

One and done.Good bye-cycle.

liberalefty

March 26th, 2011
1:14 pm

@jb

i see u agree with me that BUSHY THE COWBOY looked pathetic on 9/11…lol..if u think OBAMA is sorry u must really think BUSHY was pathetic…

liberalefty

March 26th, 2011
1:15 pm

@jb

youre just another insecure white male that wets his pants in front of black men…too bad for you the “good ole days” are gone….

itpdude

March 26th, 2011
3:54 pm

Children don’t have a right to be nurtured by a mother or a father. Where is that in the Constitution?

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 26th, 2011
7:15 pm

@ liperalifty.

This man never pissed in his pants over the likes of you OR anyone else.

THE GOOD OLD DAYS ARE GONE?

Keep thinkin that,son……………

A grandson of “The South-land, an heir to the ‘Confederacy’ …

Southern born and Southern Bred…………………….

Check out some Hank Williams Jr………….

”A Countryboy Will Survive”……………

”If Heaven Ain’t Alot Like Dixie” ……..

”Dixie On My Mind”……..

”The South’s Gonna Rattle Again”……………

Yeah, smoke you some crack, drink you some Boone’s Farm wine and spin some of those tunes old son………………..

The words are REAL easy to understand, every other word isn’t mf,gd,etc……………..

Get you some, then get back to me,dirtbag.

Glenn

March 26th, 2011
7:20 pm

Glenn

March 26th, 2011
7:22 pm

That’s pretty funny, how the webmeisters posted me innocuously. They’re idiots.

Glenn

March 26th, 2011
7:25 pm

@Stoner:

Them’s sum serious gu

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 26th, 2011
8:05 pm

@ Glenn=============

Glad you like it.

Moderate Line

March 26th, 2011
9:39 pm

One of the greatest shockers of the whole HOPE scholarship debate has been the revelation that special legislation was required to guarantee that the top two graduates of every high school in Georgia — the valedictorian and the salutatorian — would qualify for the full HOPE ride regardless of whether they finished with a high B average. These are not schools. ++++
I doubt there is that many schools where the top two people from a school do not have a high B. Good job at making a big deal out of nothing.

Moderate Line

March 26th, 2011
9:41 pm

Though American lives were put on the line, the war that is being led
 by us, the French — or some committee of nations — did not rise to the importance that would warrant the interruption of Obama’s tour of South America.
+++++
You are correct. They don’t have WMDs either.

liberalefty

March 26th, 2011
9:52 pm

@jb

sorry ole fool but a DRUG ADDICT like Hank Williams Jr means nothing…..the old south is gone and the moreof you redneck racists die the better…how does it feel to know black men are tougher than you soft pale white men?…it must hurt dont it…..your whole race is weak, thats why ya’ll arent multiplying, and the brown, black races are…must be your weak genes…lol

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 27th, 2011
11:16 am

liperlefty=

Did you spin any of the above tunes,son?

You need to listen to the words.

Old South gone? Nah, your kidding your 12 year old self.

Redneck Racists? Call a spade a spade.

Blackie tougher than ‘pale white men’ ? Nah,you’re kidding you’re 12 year old self.

Hurt? Don’t feel the pain.

Whole race is weak? Nah, don’t think so,boy.

Keep multipling,you’ll need it. Besides the rednecks, the hispanics,muslims, Vietnamese, are gonna threaten your frre ride you enjoyed for so long.

Enjoy pickin cotton, watermelon and collard greens beside them in the fields.

Teach them how to sing “Dixie On My Mind”.

In the fields, you know in the HOT Georgia sun.

Big Boss Man will tell you when it’s “Quitin time on Tara”.

lmfao…………………..

liberalefty

March 27th, 2011
11:45 am

@jb

like i said , you miss the “good ole days”, dontcha…now git back to smoking meth and drinking moonshine…

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 27th, 2011
12:04 pm

@LIPERLEFTY

Never missed anything in my life,ol son.

later……………..

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 27th, 2011
12:08 pm

11:16 post hit home,huh son. Oh, I may take a shot of ‘Jim Beam’ later.

You might want to try it sometime………..

Oh, I forgot, you CAN’T afford it.

‘Boones Farm ‘ apple your choice, I hear…..

lmfao.

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 27th, 2011
12:13 pm

Visit historic ‘Stone Mountain’, look up.

It’s etched in stone.
Try to remove it.

Check out the laser show sometime.
Quite educational…………

liberalefty

March 27th, 2011
12:26 pm

@jb

i live in STONE MOUNTAIN…lol..its just a big rock with ole redneck confederate heroes on it…a relic of the miserable ignorant past

Tommy Middlefinger

March 27th, 2011
5:19 pm

To add enlightenment to liberefty. Yes you are correct, they are Confederate Heroes. They stood for what the South stood for, that being never to be told by radicals and leftist’s what you will and won’t do. Many fought and died for their beliefs. They say history will repeat itself. For your sake and those like you I pray you are an American. Believe in this country and for which it stands.
Hope you were praying for officer Buddy Chastain today who was laid to rfest in Athens, Ga. Slain by a thug who hated white cops. Judgement day is coming not soon enough for the punk that shot this good man to death, then ran and hid until his worthless carcuss was captured.
His trial,I believe should be swift and justice done. Lethal injection would be too kind in his execution. This POS when handcuffed yesterday cried ‘The cuffs are too tight, you’re hurting me”.

Pity,pity … Hope they hurt. Tough guy.

Tommy Middlefinger

March 27th, 2011
5:23 pm

Oh, and least we forget Brian Nichols. Remember him? Yeah the thug awaiting sentencing(un-neccessarily draing this state WAY too much money). His time should be up… Time to go too.
Another tough guy.

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 27th, 2011
5:41 pm

I just read the AJC article about Brian Nichols, “mad at the justice system.” Granted its second hand information, but nevertheless, Nichols like many other integrationist African Americans don’t know what it takes to be free i.e. black businesses and institutions needed to facilitate black freedom.

Since 1970 mandatory integration in the south and south, aka, the destruction of black businesses and institutions that facilitate freedom, African Americans in the United States have been denied their sacred right to be free by integrationist black leaders.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that Integrationist black leaders have traded what it takes to facilitate the freedom of black people for money, fame, status, plush jobs, and materialism….On second thought, maybe it does take a rocket scientist to see.

Here is a truism of history. When a race of people are enslaved or oppressed by powerful people of another race, the primary obstacles to their liberty are leaders of their own race pretending to work toward liberty, but in reality, are working in cahoots with the powerful benefactors of oppression for money, fame, status, plush jobs, materialism etc.

Amen?

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 27th, 2011
5:44 pm

Therefore, when you hear black people in general talking about what white people are doing to them, you know they have been greatly deceived by their own leaders.

Amen?

Tommy Middlefinger

March 27th, 2011
5:50 pm

To Dr. Stan

Mr. Nichols has no one but himself to be mad at. What kind of retoric are you babbling about. This POS should have already been hung,shot,uthenized for the mercy-less actions he has caused to many people and their families. And to waste ONE DAMN DIME defending him ,feeding and boarding this dirtbag is b.s.

You and your opinions suck.

Tommy Middlefinger

March 27th, 2011
5:53 pm

Tell him to write Al Sharrpton and Jessie Jackson because they decieved his ass.

Ask me, I say bye,bye dirt bag. Three years ago.

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 27th, 2011
6:10 pm

Outstanding job Tommy.

The likes of LIPERALEFTY and Dr. Clan are examples of today’s D.C.

No direction, leadership, coarse of repair.

ALL I SAY IS ONE AND DONE………….

LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES…………

AND BOY DID WE MAKE ONE…………..

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 27th, 2011
6:21 pm

Tommy Middlefinger you have a point, “Tell him to write Al Sharrpton and Jessie Jackson because they decieved his ass” but after that point, you seem to lose it.

And J.B., well, he’s just J.B.

Tommy Middlefinger

March 27th, 2011
6:29 pm

Yeah, not hard to stay with me when I said ” Ask me, I say bye bye dirt bag. Three years ago.”

Shows which way you swing.

J.B. makes more sense than you ever have.

Cause J.B. well he’s just J.B.

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 27th, 2011
6:40 pm

Let me tell you what I mean by J.B., well, he’s just J.B…. He’s just CarlosglendebbiedotomJ.B.etc… all wrapped into one.

Amen?

Tommy Middlefinger

March 27th, 2011
6:51 pm

? WTF………………….

Tommy Middlefinger

March 27th, 2011
6:52 pm

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 27th, 2011
7:04 pm

I should have known. CarlosglendebbiedotomJ.B. etc supports Obama e.g. WTF, win the future.

Amen?

liberalefty

March 28th, 2011
9:44 am

@tommymiddlefinger

they were racist raping slavemasters…ADOLPH HITLER IS PROBALY YOUR HERO TOO…AND YOUR HEROS BELIEVED in enslaving blacks for profit, buying and selling little black kids for profit….only a raCIST IGNANT FOOL would think that was right…WHY DO U RACISTS EQUATE BEING A traitorus SLAVEMASTER with being patriot…u rednecks as usual has it backwards

liberalefty

March 28th, 2011
9:47 am

@dr stan

i guess yiou really hated the CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT , didnt you….after all according to your backward logic, it hurt black people…..smdh