Meddling in boards goes too far

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

● After playing President Undecider through the turmoil in Egypt, Libya, Yemen and elsewhere, President Barack Obama did his best George W. imitation, practically stealing his words, while teaming up with the Europeans to launch cruise missiles and drop bombs under U.N. direction on a nation that has no strategic importance to the United States, thus advantaging a group whose commitment to democracy is unknown. Though American lives were put on the line, the war that is being led
 by us, the French — or some committee of nations — did not rise to the importance that would warrant the interruption of Obama’s tour of South America.

● Since my first days in metro Atlanta decades ago, commissioners and legislators have been fighting about how to structure county government. Legislation introduced by state Rep. Kathy Ashe of Atlanta would make the Fulton County chairman full time with authority to hire and fire the county manager and department heads. The proposal, writes the AJC’s Johnny Edwards, “is the latest attempt to reform a government criticized as dysfunctional and fiscally bloated.”

● Look, we can’t propose legislation to change every local government that’s considered “dysfunctional and fiscally bloated.” While I have no dog in this fight, my belief in general is that school accrediting authorities and state legislators should steer clear of squabbling school boards and other local governments and allow voters to fix the troubles they created. Fulton County Commissioner Emma Darnell comes up with a pretty good rule of thumb for messing with the locals. Says she: “We’re not broke and nobody’s been indicted.”

● Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed wants the Legislature to give him authority to appoint members of the Atlanta school board. Never. Yes, the board has its divisions. But many of us recall that not so long ago the school board was the anchor of sanity while the Atlanta City Council had the franchise on dysfunctionality.

● The archaic practice of penalizing students because their schools lose accreditation should be ended. If students can gain college admission on their own merit, they should get in, regardless of the failure of adults in the local school system to be responsible.

● A judge appointed by former Gov. Roy Barnes tosses out a 31-count indictment against the locally influential former Cobb County EMC president Dwight Brown, a client of Barnes’ law firm, because the indictment proceeding had been moved to a courtroom “inaccessible” to the public. Here’s a reform the new Republican majority under the Gold Dome ought to consider: Prohibit a judge from hearing cases where the client is represented by a lawyer who, as governor, appointed him to the bench. The prohibition should apply to the governor’s firm, as well.

● One of the greatest shockers of the whole HOPE scholarship debate has been the revelation that special legislation was required to guarantee that the top two graduates of every high school in Georgia — the valedictorian and the salutatorian — would qualify for the full HOPE ride regardless of whether they finished with a high B average. These are not schools. They’re instructional holding facilities.

● When an adult proposes to take a human life, a 24-hour waiting period, as Georgia requires for abortions, or a 36-hour period, as South Dakota just required, is a whiff of time. One of these days “children’s rights” will amount to something other than a liberal advocacy group’s wordsmithing for more government social spending. At conception, children have a right to life. At birth, they have a right to a mother and father nurturing them to adulthood.

185 comments Add your comment

W's Dealer

March 24th, 2011
7:42 pm

Same _______, different day!

Glenn

March 24th, 2011
7:50 pm

I’m not incensed by this necessarily stochastic column but by damn am angry about the stereotypically Southern way in which Dwight Brown temporarily was let off the hook by his Southern cronies. I’ll join any petition to move that outrageous case through the federal courts, and apologize in advance for our embarrassment. A crook’s a crook. His friends are crooks. And I and my neighbors want back the value of everything Dwight Brown so blatantly stole or else Georgia isn’t worth living in.

Rafe Hollister

March 24th, 2011
8:00 pm

Amen, Glenn!

Every Judge appointed by Roy Barnes should recuse himself/herself when ole King Rat appears for the defense.

Lawrence

March 24th, 2011
8:56 pm

And we thought we had impartial judges? I agree with you Jim, we should make sure that King Rat is not rewarded by the judges he has appointed.

Glenn

March 24th, 2011
9:25 pm

Look at the facts. I don’t dubt that Gevernor Natan (Midnight Clouud) Deal cannot be trusted with judicial appointments but the fact remains that Dwight Brown and his Cobb EMC/ Cobb Energy scam first ran away with double-dipping on salaries and then absconded with the personal property belonging to co-op members whilst billing them for the hilarious privilege of their victimhood. I don’t care who his friends were or are; that newly rich crook should rot in prison until he dies. He’s an arch thief of the good ol’ boy, connected bubbaskool. He’s made a great many people hurt regularly for his bloodletting greed. He’s an arch-criminal.

Glenn

March 24th, 2011
9:29 pm

It would besmirch the State of Georgia were it not to convict and imprison Dwight Brown. That’s as simply as I can think to say it. And with no fear whatsoever of actionable libel.

Glenn

March 24th, 2011
9:33 pm

Meanwhile I suggest that no one here, nobody any of us knows, ever attend however tempting an event at the BS Cobb Energy Centre, which Brown funded with his I’ll-gotten gains. Let that house that theft built rot in the Sun. It is cursed.

Phil Lunney

March 24th, 2011
9:38 pm

At birth, they have a right to a mother and father nurturing them to adulthood.
Why don’t we have all children born and have the sex partners DNA tested so that the fathers can be held responsible. We rail against abortion and single mothers but where are the solutions. The men walk free and pontificate about responsibility. Why don’t we try a solution rather than complain about liberals and obstruck real sex education. Oh, let’s teach abstinance (which has been shown to be totally ineffective) and shut down Planned Parenthood which provides real women’s health services.

ornarljulgale

March 24th, 2011
9:47 pm

Hi,

I am new here and I already like this forum.

I hope to learn a lot and make new friends along the way.

Greetings!

Glenn

March 24th, 2011
9:55 pm

Fathers “tested”? For what, and by whom? In the early 1970s my late mentor forecast that one day soon the State would presume to teach sovereign citizens two things that every culture has known, in every place for countless millennia, how to do: How to procreate and how to rear babies. That, he said, would announce a new totalitarianism. Consider the irresistible power shift. The social sea change in our lifetime. Consider also the inherent racism of these developments. The motives are terrible.

Phil Lunney

March 24th, 2011
9:59 pm

Glenn: Father’s tested for paternity, by the same doctors that are treating the mother. In a majority of the cases, the father can be determined from the “usual suspects”.

Glenn

March 24th, 2011
10:06 pm

@omarljulgale,

Hi. Welcome. Some of us are quite rude. Most are intelligent. Hang in, please. One thing I would warn you about is the sibling rivalries here. Some of us who know each other best, tease each other most cruelly.

Glenn

March 24th, 2011
10:18 pm

If that’s what you mean by testing, Phil–and I recall that Jim’s advocated for that sort of testing–then, no, I haven’t a problem with that provided it’s legislated and passes constitutional scrutiny. In fact I’d affirmatively call for all of the above, provided the science is as trustworthy as I’m given to believe it is. Still, probably you’d get that those sorts of court cases would seldom hold white Georgian males in the dock, having squirted into a cup for God et Country et La Famille. No, the presumption would go ever against young African American males–rightly or wrongly–and never against the Newt Gingriches.

Peter

March 24th, 2011
10:37 pm

Obama stole Bush’s words ??????? What did he stutter……say something really stupid ?

Did he say ……. “he prayed to his God” before launching the strike ?

“Mission Accomplished” ?

I don’t think anyone would steal Bush’s words……But hey Republican’s have a funny way of looking at things !

Madison

March 24th, 2011
11:02 pm

I always though Roy Barnes was overweight it turned out that it was just the judges in his hip pocket.

Glenn

March 24th, 2011
11:44 pm

Were Roy Barnes Governor again, just think of the wrong moves he’d have made by now. According to his campaign promises he’d have driven the state deeper into debt with give-aways to the Teachers Assn. and their unreformed pensions, he’d in fact have increased state spending acres the board, would have ceded us to irrevocably to the Feds at every opportunity, and Lord knows where we’d be on the crucial water contest. By comparison with Barnes Deal is a hero. And this is to say nothing of the tactical problem of a hypothetical governor at odds not only with the legislative branch but with every other statewide constitutional officer. It would have been a nightmare had we elected Barnes. I hope he’s off making millions wherever he made the last couple or three. The dude is done, Downtown.

captguitarman

March 25th, 2011
12:56 am

Glenn is an angry man, and justifiably so, no doubt about that. But, I have to agree that it is difficult not to be completely embarrassed by the last vestiges of “good ol’ boys jes’ doin’ bidness” in a state that once had so much promise (and once the home of a city once heralded as the capital of the New South). But Gawga seems determined to maintain its old “bubbaskool” culture (good one, Glenn – so accurate) even if it means falling further and further behind other southern states and cities (North Carolina/Charlotte, Tennessee/Nashville, and Florida/Jacksonville to name a few), and the whole damned rest of the country . The Speaker of the Republican House himself set the tone last November with his all expenses paid family vacation to Europe at a lobbyist’s expense, clearly sending out the word that What, Me Worry? Sonny Perdue is gone, the queen bitch Handel and her ilk have been vanquished, and the Gold Dome is open for bidness and usual — God Bless America! And in this culture, in which any serious talk of real ethics reform and accountability to Georgia voters gets a smirk, a wink,a nod, and a pat on the back as the envelope is delivered, it should be no surprise that a judge appointed by a former governor made the “right” decision in litigation in which the appointing judge was involved. Only in Gawga, folks. You can just hear King Roy instructing his associate on the critical morning, can’t you? Now, son, you be sure to be late to that court room. Yes, I know that we both know the main entrance is closed, because they told us it would be, and we were told to use another entrance, but just play dumb. Just act like you don’t know where you are going. Yes, I know the press and whole damn rest of the world had no problem getting into that court room, but you can’t be there. Just make damend sure you are late. It’s real important, son! If you act confused, and you are late, that will fix everything. Why, Mr. Barnes?Why? Because, son, if you are late, everything is fixed. Wink, wink. It’s beyond disgusting. Could Mississippi be any worse? Hard to imagine? God help them if they are. And yet, one day, years form now, if things are not changed, to think of the Speaker, or the Real Deal calling in similar favors from their appointees and political hacks still on the scene. The whole episode reminds me of when disgraced Speaker, Don’t Take Another Step or I’ll Shoot, Glenn Richardson’s corrupt and unethical conduct was temporarily withheld from public disclosure because his former law partner was the judge in his divorce case and sealed the records. Fortunately, the ex-Mrs. Richardson one day had enough of the Speaker’s post divorce harrassement and blew the lid off the whole deal. Yep, it’s all embarrassing. Two years of good prosecutorial legal work to track down and indict the alleged crooks — who decry their innocence to the high Heavens, but who are desperate beyond measure to prevent a court of law from looking into the allegations, or to have any new EMC board members elected, and who violated the terms of a legal settlement of the law suit (to hold elections for new board members) before the ink was dry on the settlement agreement. One day, all of the truth will come out and justice will prevail, and those involved will rue their dishonest, deceitful, and illegal actions.

Glenn

March 25th, 2011
1:52 am

Angry, yes, and that’s a mighty fine disquisition upon the state of the State. Personally I don’t hold with Richardson and never did do. Nor is the EMC thing over. That particular zombie just looms larger with every feeble Victorian nail they try to drive into its casket. But I agree that GA once again should chart its own course and resume its rightful place. Spring cleaning is in order as prelude.

jt

March 25th, 2011
6:32 am

Under Sharia law, Dwight Brown would have had his right hand cut off and Barnes would have been banished from the state years ago for wearing lip-stick.

Not that I’m advocating Sharia……. just saying.

WHY? RNC is Y

March 25th, 2011
7:36 am

“…a 24 hour waiting period is a WHIFF of time…at conception, children have a right to life…at birth they have a right to a nuturing mother and father…..”

Einstein said that time passes differently for everyone. It goes by in a WHIFF for Wooten, who ain’t no Einstein; in fact, he ain’t got no LICK o’ sense, nor a PINCH of reason. He criticizes Obama for stealing W’s words and then HE parrots Democratic opposition to the Iraq War – “no strategic value”.

Wooten fantasizes about nuturing parents. Then this poster child of ideological sellouts would deny these same fictional characters the resources that were wasted denying the right to life to thousands of non-fictional Iraqis.

Wooten is the emblematic stereotypical living-example-cliche of disinformation and circular logic. He reminds me of the grifter who wrote in his diary, “March came in like a liar, and went out like a scam.”

The two trillion $’s we had to pay for a fetus’s right to a nursemaid was wasted butchering children in Iraq for absolutely no strategic interest for the US. Wooten is the monster hiding under the crib. U C, people, Wooten’s Capitalism doesn’t work without war. If the strategic interests of the United States can be defined as enriching Wooten and unkind kind, then yes, any theatre of any war is of strategic interest to the US.

I did like the ” President Undecider” bit, though. Nice callback. However Wooten had to cut off his nose to spite his face on that one, because we had forgotten just how big of an idiot W was.

We thank the people’s menace for the refresh.

PinkoNeoConLibertarian

March 25th, 2011
7:38 am

So that’s the bar you’re setting for when school accrediting authorities should get involved? When the school board is either broke or someone is indicted?

dcb

March 25th, 2011
8:18 am

It’s a myth that colleges deny admissions, or even consideration of admissions to school’s w/o SACS accreditation. Just check with others on your AJC staff dealing with education. SACS is a stick that is necessary to assure adherence to very minimum education standards with most subjective in the first place. Only dysfunctional boards crossing the line between their governance and the paid staff’s operational responsibilities really offer the “opportunity” for a district to lose accreditation. And colleges aren’t going to turn away qualified students (based on test scores primarily) because of a few poorly elected adults.

Buzz G

March 25th, 2011
8:26 am

Democrats spread their corrupting influence everywhere. Why would we not expect it to infiltrate our justice system? The only way to keep corruption at bay is to keep Democrats out of power.

Peter

March 25th, 2011
8:31 am

Hey Buzz….This comment is a JOKE…….

“Democrats spread their corrupting influence everywhere. Why would we not expect it to infiltrate our justice system?”

Let’s talk about the Republican Hanging Judge, who bought his stripper girlfriend Cocaine, because she had priors.

How about the fact they let him retire with his full pension before charging him, and the fact he only got 30 days in jail. Now please if that isn’t a slap in the face to every Georgian out here then what is ?

Republican’s run this state in the most corrupt way !

Will

March 25th, 2011
8:33 am

Republican newspaper writers and republican radio/tv entertainers are a hoot!

They defend former President Bush’s policy of nation builidng in the Middle East but accuse current President Obama of doing the same thing.

They defend the cost of nation building under Bush but critize the cost under President Obama.

They complain that President Obama “dithered” in the Middle East but then complain about President Obama taking action in the Middle East.

They complain about President Obama “going it alone” in the Middle East and then complain that President Obama is working in accord with NATO and European nations.

Bottom line – republican newspaper writers and republican tv/radio entertainers defended President Bush because President Bush was a republican. They critize President Obama because he is a democrat. Nothing more (well maybe more for some who will never accept or be comfortable with an African-American as President)….nothing less.

mike

March 25th, 2011
8:41 am

Funny how folks hate on Barnes because he is doing his job. His client is the crook not Barnes. Same with the governor. He left office before he could be investigated and the goobers in Georgia still elected him. It is much easier to blame Barnes or talk about abortion especially a bunch of old white guys. We got to keep them women in their place!

DebbieDoRight

March 25th, 2011
8:45 am

Jim – two things:

1) I actually agree with you about Reed not getting involved with the APS School board. Reed wants to take away the authority of a publicly elected group. If he opens that can of worms, he’d better look over his shoulder from now on. Because if he gets his way and gets to hire and fire duly elected officials at a whim without a legal recall vote, then who’s to say someone won’t turn around and use that same legislation against him? If the citizens of Atlanta don’t want their elected officials, then they should start up a Recall petition. Reed, as Mayor, should stay out of it.

2) The waiting period for Abortions – get over it already! Abortions are legal in America, sanctioned by Roe v. Wade; if Georgia wants to hinder a woman’s rights to an abortion with baseless useless legislation, then I hope they have a lot of money in the coffers to circumvent the legal tsunami that is going to happen.

DebbieDoRight

March 25th, 2011
8:50 am

Let’s talk about the Republican Hanging Judge, who bought his stripper girlfriend Cocaine, because she had priors.

How about the fact they let him retire with his full pension before charging him, and the fact he only got 30 days in jail. Now please if that isn’t a slap in the face to every Georgian out here then what is ?

The most amusing thing about that judge’s fiasco, is the fact that he was said to be a “hanging judge” showing only one person who’d come before in this 20+ years on the bench any mercy. BUT when he into some serious trouble, he started hollering for mercy so loud it sounded like one of those twister alarms in Cobb County.

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 25th, 2011
8:51 am

In the good old days, abortions were not legal in the state of Georgia…and there were only a few exceptions to the rule throughout the United States. It was a time when husband and wife loved each other and their children. In those days, children’s rights and the rights of the family were one and the same.

Enter the hate that hate produced, the doctrine of integration, 1970 in the south and north. The United States Supreme Court legalized abortion in 1973, Roe vs. Wade. The ruling has led to 1, 370,000 abortions and 1,065,750 divorces in the United States per year.

Now don’t get it twisted. Liberal advocacy group’s wordsmiths and their devilish black minions would have you believe this perversion is progress, “progressiveness,” if you will. Oh how we long for the good old days when liberals were Thinking Right and African Americans too.

It’s a no brainer Jim. Upon conception, children have a right to be born, and at birth, a right to a mother and father nurturing them to adulthood.

jconservative

March 25th, 2011
8:55 am

“…did not rise to the importance that would warrant the interruption of Obama’s tour of South America.”

So if it is not that important why is so much “cane” being raised about it? Everyone and their favorite hound are howling about the Libya action, either pro or con.

The “peaceniks” like the House Democrats and Newt Gingrich are opposed to it and the “warhawks” like the House Republicans and Chuck Schumer believe he did not go far enough.

Question: if the Libyans want to have a civil war and kill each other why is it any of our business? Just asking.

jd

March 25th, 2011
8:57 am

Jim,

You got enough fraud going on under the gold dome to keep this column quite full (See Medicaid fraud story in today’s edition for example). A tax bill going to get shoved thru at the last minute, budgets passed without debate, without committee reports and, horror, not being read. Glad to see Republicans are so much better than Dems…

findog

March 25th, 2011
9:00 am

Jimbo, still lacking that reading/comprehension thingee
The top two graduates get the pass on the SAT score; even the one room school house with five students your, let’s return to the Eisenhower era, pals yearn for would have at least two B-average students using the bell-curve grading established back then

rich

March 25th, 2011
9:14 am

Bottom line is the indictment – which is supposed to be open to the public – was filed on Jan. 6. The courthouse officially opened to the public on Jan. 10. All political conspiracy theories aside, there’s really not much to debate.

jconservative

March 25th, 2011
9:14 am

Jim Wooten writes:
“At conception, children have a right to life. At birth, they have a right to a mother and father nurturing them to adulthood.”

These are momentous words Jim. But I fear you left out a sentence that needs to be there to complete your thought. This sentence:

“After birth, children have a right to life.”

Please tell me the purpose of allowing conceived children birth if we allow them to die after birth?

If we are going to use the Police Power of the State to force the birth of all conceived children, should we not also use the Police Power of the State to insure the survival and health of those same children?

I say yes.

Right minded

March 25th, 2011
9:19 am

@Peter
George Bush bashing seemingly never goes out of season, especially when those such as you attempt to defend Obama. Even you must realize this man is the most ill prepared, weak, indecisive, pathetic excuse for a Pres in our nation’s history. As for misspeaking in Obama’s case would it be misreading? After all the man can’t speak without the teleprompters running. Then again, he did mispronounce Corps, as in Marine Corps, and Corpsmen, as in members of the Corps, reading from the TelePrompTer he cooly read them as “corpse” and “Corpsmen” what made it doubly bad was he was paying tribute to slain military personnel. Never could W have topped that. This is also the same man who recalled there were 57 states in the Union. Barack stumbles, flips, flops, stutters, stammers without any assistance from W.

Obama is a spokesman, a puppet, who is the titular head of the country while the radical left runs things behind the veil of secrecy and Czars. But above all else, he’s a traveling man, taking vacations at taxpayer expense and playing catchup for all those trips he never took with his family while a private citizen. Air Force One has become his Winnebago.

Where’s Barack teeing it up this weekend?

Peter

March 25th, 2011
9:32 am

Hey Right minded…..George Bush brought America into two Wars…..both we are still waging at what cost ? Trillions of dollars…..

How is that effecting the deficit ?

Wait…..”Deficits don’t matter” is that correct ?

If Cheney said this…why all of a sudden are Republican’s upset about a deficit ?

George Bush took off more time for relaxation than any president ever…….and wow look at America, and the mess he left behind….

Gee the vacation in Texas during Katrina, and the fly over, and never stopping to see how American citizens were is a grim reminder of how cruel the Attitude of the Republican party IS !

Please we will have to work our way out of the Bush mess for 20 years or so.

DebbieDoRight

March 25th, 2011
9:34 am

jcon: Question: if the Libyans want to have a civil war and kill each other why is it any of our business? Just asking.

That’s easy……….O-I-L.

Peter

March 25th, 2011
9:37 am

Hey Right minded…….. What was “Mission Accomplished” anyway ?

My perspective was the Bilking of the Treasury with Cheney’s “Cost plus Contracts”.

Seems by the end of Bush’s 2 terms America was on financial collapse……I guess you must have forgotten about the bailouts, and the fact for a period of time, we were concerned about the next depression?

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 25th, 2011
9:50 am

I totally agree with Right Minded…GREAT POINTS ABOUT PETER AND HIS BOY B. HUSSIEN O’ …..

Peter needs to be enlightened on the world spinning around him/her…..

He is one who put this puppet in office……

When Sharea law takes his carcuss down a lonely and dank road to poverty (yes, Peter listen closely) and he wants to know “What Happened”, look in the mirror……..

YOU CAUSED THE PROBLEM, NOT ARE YOU ENTITLED TO THE SOLUTION………………………

WATCH GLENN BECK TODAY PETER, YOU MAY LEARN SOMETHING……

5 PM ON FOX…………………….

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 25th, 2011
9:56 am

Peter——-ONE MORE THING,SON..

GWB was not the problem in ref to ‘Katrina’..

It was your other boy , Mayour Ray Niggel of N.O. …….

HE AND FEMA SCREWED THAT UP, REMEMBER?

Do your homework before you come on here..

B. Hussien drives golf balls and studies Basket Ball brackets..

NOT the USA……………………….

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 25th, 2011
9:59 am

I say no to Police Powers of the State…

Parents are best suited to insure the survival, health of their children and prevent them from dying after birth.

findog

March 25th, 2011
9:59 am

Dear Jim,
What part of nanny state are you now proposing: a right to a Mother and Father?
Wouldn’t that preclude the deployment of all members of the armed services with children, dependent or not?

Willie

March 25th, 2011
10:25 am

Peter, you are well and truly an idiot. Mindless repeating of your attack lines do not good advocacy make.

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 25th, 2011
10:27 am

Score one for WILLIE…………….

ARE YOU GETTIN THE MESSAGE, PETER????????????????????

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 25th, 2011
10:36 am

Testing one, testing one, testing one, testing one, this is Dr. Stan, the black one, attempting to avoid the dreaded black hole, testing one.

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 25th, 2011
10:48 am

We think a nanny state is proposed if a child has a right to a mother and a father? And that would preclude the deployment of all members of the armed services with children..?

Now I understand what Garrison is talking about. He told us several years ago that educated integrationist African Americans have stuck everything on stupid.

rant and roll

March 25th, 2011
10:51 am

” At conception, children have a right to life. ”

So any child conceived in the US is a US citizen!

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 25th, 2011
11:03 am

You are exactly right Carlosglenwhy… A child conceived in the US is a citizen too…assuming the parents are citizens.

Churchill's MOM Rand Paul for President

March 25th, 2011
11:03 am

If Reed can’t straighten out the mess at the airport, how can he fix APS.

Peter

March 25th, 2011
11:05 am

Willie….yes the mind that works so hard….look at the big brain on Willie….. calling names, but has zero information coming from it !

WOW I am impressed….. Kind of like Cheney said…”Deficits don’t matter”…..do they Willie ?