State spending cap a good idea

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

● Help me think. Excluding anything to do with the personal lives of celebrity athletes and entertainers, has more ink been spilled needlessly on any issue more frivolous than voter ID? The Georgia Supreme Court this week joined others in smacking down the whiners who kept arguing that somebody somewhere would be kept from voting because of the requirement — but could never produce a living soul. Or, heck, even a dead one.

● A cap on state spending, as proposed by State Sen. Chip Rogers, R-Woodstock, would be an admirable addition to the state Constitution. The proposal is so flexible that only the most partisan proponents of big government can find objection. Spending is limited to the highest previous budget or to the previous year’s, plus population growth and the rate of government inflation. Collections above that will go to pay for increased school enrollment, retire debt and build the state’s “rainy day fund” to 15 percent of the budget (up from 10 percent now). When the rainy day fund’s exhausted, the Legislature by a two-thirds vote can waive the spending cap. In an emergency, that’ll happen. Besides, 15 percent reserves will ordinarily keep governors and legislators from having to make really tough budget cuts.

● Arguing against proposed changes in the HOPE program, the former president’s grandson, state Sen. Jason Carter, sounds a lot older than his 35 years. In fact, he sounds a lot like the politicians of yesteryear. Said the young throwback: “There is no doubt if we cut HOPE …there will be some students who won’t graduate from college because they can’t afford it.” A student so easily dissuaded may not have been college material to start with — and, furthermore, will have some real coping issues with adult life. Politicians always seem to be solving, or proposing to solve, problems that existed in their childhood — or before they were born.

● If one of those college enrollees who’s freaked out by a slight decrease in HOPE handouts is looking for a career alternative — though, fair warning, it does involve work — Kennesaw’s Superior Plumbing is begging for qualified plumbers. The job offers good pay and virtual lifetime security. Skilled machinists are in demand, too. The downside to those jobs is that you stay too busy to go downtown to boo and hiss state legislators while insisting that “fairness” demands that you be given more public money.

● Georgia has a projected deficit of $250 million in its $3 billion health benefits program for state employees. Since the state can’t print money or run a deficit, the proposed solution is to raise premiums for current employees and retirees. Legislators could make a contribution by eliminating taxpayer-provided health care coverage for themselves and for other part-timers whose primary employment is elsewhere.

● As the nation comes to grip with the terrible debt that we’re allowing to be passed on to the unborn, the media really does incur an obligation to be responsible stewards of information. It’s awfully easy for journalists to rush out and find “victims” of heartless government — and, in fact, advocacy groups will produce them on cue — for quick stories allegedly detailing the impact of spending reductions. Most journalists lack the expertise to assess the real impact or to know, for example, that the job training program is one of 47 and may or may not be effective for “victim’s problem.” Another problem is that such stories are often a fact or two shy of providing the context that would allow us to know. The point really is that if we’re going to be a nation of adults making responsible choices, we have to know if programs work. Otherwise we’re teaching people how to game the system.

136 comments Add your comment

MiltonMan

March 11th, 2011
8:58 am

Peter, what about your man NOW??? He said that he would have us out of Afghanistan in 16 months after taking office, he would close Gitmo, unemployment would never get above 8%, etc.

Keep blaming Bush Champ. Your man is now in charge & he & his big ears are a disgrace.

MiltonMan

March 11th, 2011
9:00 am

Obama needs to get out & start campaigning. He needs to revisit the 57 states that he visited during the ‘08 elections.

JP

March 11th, 2011
9:03 am

I am a Dem and think the Dems have blown the deficit up. However, to say the National Debt lays entirely at the feet of the Dems is completely delusional.

Bookman-Tucker-Luckovich

March 11th, 2011
9:47 am

“Mr. Obama has told people that it would be so much easier to be the president of China. As one official put it, ‘No one is scrutinizing Hu Jintao’s words in Tahrir Square.’”

HEY! GO FOR IT!

Mr. Dithers

March 11th, 2011
11:07 am

Milton Man, you ought to be reading my post more closely. I am not talking about voter ID. I am talking about the Obama birther bill wending its way through the GA legislature. The Voter ID law is old news.

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 11th, 2011
11:08 am

I can’t think of another issue where more ink has been spilled needlessly on any issue more frivolous than voter ID either… Citizens of Georgia should thank God Almighty that The Georgia Supreme Court joined others in smacking down the New World Order integrationist crowd and the devilish black minions arguing that somebody somewhere would be kept from voting because of the requirement…

When the ruling was handed down, members of our self determined society thanked God Almighty for The Georgia Supreme Court’s decision to uphold the state’s photo-ID voting requirement by a 6–1 vote. It was unpleasant to think it possible for all the illegal aliens and criminals from every corner of the earth voting in Georgia? God Forbid. We know the illegal aliens can’t be thinking right because after all, they did enter Georgia illegally.

If The Georgia Supreme Court had not upheld the state’s photo-ID voting requirement, the vast majority of illegal aliens would vote for politicians in the Democrat party of Georgia, the party they believe most responsible for allowing them to enter the state, and avoid detection or arrest, and take advantage of the services intended for citizens.

Amen?

Laurie

March 11th, 2011
11:37 am

Velma, well put. As for HOPE, if a student has the drive to graduate, they will find a way to do it. A degree that has been earned will benefit a person more in life than something that has just been handed to them. Is there anyone out there who would disagree with that? I would love to hear your justification.

WHY? RNC is Y

March 11th, 2011
11:42 am

The National Debt is a result of Bush’s 8 nightmare years. Period.

The spending cap is a good idear only if Uncle Sam wears it backwards.

And the comments here reveal that we need to spend more on HOPE, not less.

” As the nation comes to grip with the terrible debt…” oh, something needs 2B gripped alright, but it’s not the terrible debt.

Hillbilly Deluxe

March 11th, 2011
12:03 pm

Legislators could make a contribution by eliminating taxpayer-provided health care coverage for themselves and for other part-timers whose primary employment is elsewhere.

Amen to that. Hogs will fly before that happens, though.

Kennesaw’s Superior Plumbing is begging for qualified plumbers.

Would one be correct in assuming those jobs are only open to licensed plumbers? Plumbing is actually a pretty complicated trade and the test to get a license isn’t an easy one to pass. You have to have a very good working knowledge of hydraulics, among other things. You don’t just walk in off the street, take a test and become a plumber. And plumbing is like every other occupation in life, you don’t necessarily get paid for what you do, you get paid for knowing what to do.

Washington Street

March 11th, 2011
12:04 pm

The only argument I would raise is jhat I really do not see HOPE money as “public money” per se. It is not raised either by taxes or by fees, no one is required to spend a red cent on the lottery, and the lottery money cannot be put to any other usage (like, paying politicians off). So, while cuts in the HOPE may be necessary as fewer people are playing the lottery even as tuitions go up, it is not in any way “public money”.

Not So Casual Observer

March 11th, 2011
12:47 pm

Without research, the problem with Hope seems to be the rapid increases in tuition and fees imposed by the Georgia University System.

Where is the need for another engineering school or medical school at UGA? President Adams needs to put his ego in check and stop competing with established, well-regarded schools at the Med College of Georgia and Georgia Tech. The cost for start-up of these programs was funded by tax dollars and the exhorbitant tuition and fees charges as a result of the Hope scholarship.

Adams and the other presidents of state institutions were simply following the “medical insurance” model for raising prices. Once the consumer is removed from the transaction the cost is no longer monitored. Now with Hope we will have the same problem as in the medical field – no cost containment!

Now as the public dollars disappear the burden for a more costly education will fall once again on the consumer but at a greatly increrased price. This is just another set of unintended consequences resulting from what was originally a well-intended program.

Without the Hope Scholarship the cost of an education would be less and the relatively recent increases in the qualifications required to enter UGA, for instance, would not exist.

Not So Casual Observer

March 11th, 2011
12:51 pm

WHY?

You have proved that some people can be wrong on every issue. Since you only post “opinion” or your feelings, even in the face of statistics proving you wrong, you have at least followed in the foot steps of all liberal loons who preceeded you.

carlosgvv

March 11th, 2011
12:56 pm

I wonder how many possible doctors, lawyers, engineers, chemists, science teachers etc. we lose because they just can’t afford college tuition?

Not So Casual Observer

March 11th, 2011
12:58 pm

The utter failure of the Jimmy Carter Presidency and his subsequent sell-out of his position as a former POTUS (and his positions on foreign policy) to his pals in the Middle East for the dollars donated to the Carter Center should preclude the election of anyone named Carter to office in Georgia.

Not So Casual Observer

March 11th, 2011
1:03 pm

carlos,

An excellent question! The greed demonstrated by the members of the University System as they ran to increase tuition and fees has certainly resulted in the loss of gifted individuals.

I am sure there are other consequences of the increases but one of them has not been a decrease in president Adams’ or the other’s annual compensation.

There is much hand-wringing on blogs regarding the pay of coaches but their pay comes primarily from the income generated by the programs and from boosters, unlike professors and administrators who benefit directly from the insane increases in tuition and fees.

WHY? RNC is Y

March 11th, 2011
1:03 pm

We need to teach people the differences between rocket tubes and centrifuges. We need to teach people how not 2B pawns of any unelected GOP regime. We need to teach people how to separate church and state. We need to teach people how to recognize treason, and how to squash it.

We need HOPE more than ever. Ignoramuses thrive when the illuminati do nothing.

Swede Atlanta

March 11th, 2011
1:11 pm

Why are we in Georgia always amending our constitution for all manner of policy decisions? Spending is a matter of policy and while guidelines are useful the proposed amendment is so porous as to be nearly meaningless.

What a waste of time under the Gold Dome.

Bookman-Tucker-Luckovich

March 11th, 2011
1:45 pm

WHY? RNC is Y

With every post you prove YOU would never be eligible for HOPE.

Bookman-Tucker-Luckovich

March 11th, 2011
1:46 pm

Not So Casual Observer

March 11th, 2011
12:51 pm
WHY?

You have proved that some people can be wrong on every issue. Since you only post “opinion” or your feelings, even in the face of statistics proving you wrong, you have at least followed in the foot steps of all liberal loons who preceeded you.

AMEN!

carlosgvv

March 11th, 2011
1:54 pm

Not So Casual Observer

And in the long run, think of what these talented people could have contributed to society. I am pretty sure that China and Japan would not dream of denying a promising student a college education because they can’t afford it. They believe in long-term planing. Our politicans are obsessed with selling themselves to Big Business to get elected and re-elected. This is short-term planning and the chickens will come home to roost. Count on it.

Not So Casual Observer

March 11th, 2011
2:08 pm

WHY?

Psalm 2 initiates a question so relevant to you:

“Why DO the heathen rage…

“…teach people how not 2B pawns of any unelected GOP regime” – are you serious? Or seriously demented?

And then you seem to ask for people to squash the current POTUS and his minions.

I am generally not an advocate of prescription meds but there must be an MD somewhere who can help you!

WHY? RNC is Y

March 11th, 2011
2:28 pm

retiredds

March 11th, 2011
2:58 pm

thought you all might like a little humor over the weekend. This in The Guardian regarding the great bloviator Newt G. and what could be his campaign slogans.

Newt Gingrich – “life, liberty and the pursuit of horniness”. And I would say, “only a man who truly loves America would sleep with other women to save it.” Gingrich 2010: Newt’s campaign slogan could also be “Gingrich, sowing the seeds of liberty, one woman at a time.”

The Ghost of Lester Maddox

March 11th, 2011
3:21 pm

I just loved seeing the grandson of “Jimmuh” spewing out the same ol liberal jargon that got “Jimmuh” beat like a drum.

Jimmuh 3.0, the grandson, wanted to insure that the top 2 students of each school get “free” money. Okay. I guess we’ll see him trying to amend his wonderful formula this time next year when the parents of students ranked 3 and 4 (and so on) grunt and whine and claim racism, unfairness, George Bush’s fault, etc. etc.

The new peanut ain’t fell too far from the old vine.

Peter

March 11th, 2011
4:18 pm

Well today we learned all people are NOT Created equally in the eyes of the court system. Republican ex- judge get 30 days in jail, while most Americans would get years for what this guy did.

Typical baloney !

Not So Casual Observer

March 11th, 2011
4:18 pm

Arguably the Hope Scholarship program has destroyed any hope an average or slightly above student, without substantial means of support, will be able to attend a university in Georgia.

Peter

March 11th, 2011
4:46 pm

Republicans allowed the ex judge to retire before charging him…….so the judge gets to retire on tax payers money.

If he was charged first he would have forfeited his retirement.

Republican baloney !

yuzeyurbrain

March 11th, 2011
5:18 pm

I guess you are willing to keep Georgia at a permanent 49 or 50 in various categories including education. That is what will happen if the budget is limited to population increase plus inflation. Instead of investing in our future with education expenditures, we have just finished cutting it by several billion dollars. With that as a starting pt., this proposal will lock us into a permanent race with Mississippi and Alabama for last place. Wooten, I thought you were at least honest and smart. Why didn’t you figure this one out?

Peter

March 11th, 2011
6:41 pm

Jim Writes……

As the nation comes to grip with the terrible debt that we’re allowing to be passed on to the unborn, the media really does incur an obligation to be responsible stewards of information.

What he really meant was…….as Cheney put it ……”Deficits don’t matter”….. That is why Republican’s voted for Bush and Cheney.

Not So Casual Observer

March 11th, 2011
6:44 pm

Poor, poor Peter,

Liberals, Democrats and little Peter have been rendered insignificant, not by collusion, not by Republicans who outsmarted them, not by some “tea party” movement, not by some quirk in the election process and certainly not by an avalanche of Republican support.

NO, the above-mentioned are insignificant as a result of their own hubris, their failure to recognize their thought processes are flawed, their vision of socialism replacing capitalism, their savior Barack Obama, wholly unqualified and incompetent but worse BO hates America and is totally devoted to his pals in the Middle East, and the utter failure of their form of government in every instance throughout history.

Not to mention their idea that there is always more money to support their view of my money as theirs and your money as theirs to buy votes from the unproductive and worthless that have begun to permeate American culture.

Poor, poor Peter is now relegated to blaming every slight, every miscarriage of HIS idea of justice and all that his leaders have wrought on America – blaming this all on those he sees as Republicans!

Not So Casual Observer

March 11th, 2011
6:52 pm

By the way, Peter

Democrat Congressman Stark, I am sure you are familiar with the village-idiot from California, who claims deficits and debt do not matter – a sentiment shared by Harry (let’s fund another festival) Reid and Nancy (my husband needs more money) Pelosi, would spend us into oblivion if given the chance.

Peter, please name any conservative, whether real or imagined, who as POTUS offered a budget with a deficit nearly equal to gross revenues such as that offered by the current POTUS.

If Congress – Republican and Democrat – do not pass a budget with at least $1.7 Trillion cut from that proposed by BO, then they should all be fired.

Henryk Hofstad

March 11th, 2011
9:53 pm

Like Ragnar, I’m intrigued by Jim’s parting comments, regarding the state of American journalism. Wooten is ever worthwhile on the subject because he’s like the last of the best–or best of the last, or both–of Old School newspapering, which for me is benchmark “journalism”.

Herein he’s lamenting the death of the beat in broadcast news. Whereas broadcasters used to emulate the forms of daily print reporting, e.g. beats/specializations/expertise, today the broadcasters borrow mainly from the entertainment divisions of their media conglomerates. So the talkers no longer really inform, because they typically know less about a given topic than much of the audience does. Sports reporting, however, often is an exception to this rule, as Americans won’t abide a journalist who spews nonsense about competitive athletics, but only one wholly ignorant of military or international affairs, macroeconomics (as Jim Wooten says), health or education policy, Constitutional law or English syntax.

Ironically, this lobotomization of broadcasting is precisely a product of the so-called professionalization of journalism, of the implication–in fact the presumption–that advanced degrees in the neologism “Communications” bestow omni-functional status to sheepskin holders with expertise in Nothing particularly. The spectacle must irk Mr. Wooten no end.

Hell, even in my day we perfunctorily started on the police blotter, whence we graduated to the firehouse beat, thence to general news reporting until we were expected to begin to specialize until we became fairly expert at the sports or social pages, at political or crime reporting, at public health or education, at religious or business coverage, etc. A few good universities, including UGA, abetted that old journeyman, print tradition. But no more. In journalism today the academic departments pin a wagging tail on what little remains of the old dog. Hence we get dogspeak through the blower. Because they presume to know all, ergo Socratically they know bupkis.

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 12th, 2011
10:27 am

Glenn Beck took off last week.
I received an e-mail this am, his program next week will enlighten where this country is heading in the next few weeks.

THIS IS SCARY, RESEARCHED MATERIAL .

EVERYONE must pay attention to this message starting Mon. @ 5pm, Fox (real) News.

WHY? RNC is Y

March 12th, 2011
10:42 am

Hey stoner, (the rocket scientist one), you may be right!

Henryk Hofstad

March 12th, 2011
10:55 am

They say he donned a track suit and brand new cross trainers, then crawled into his bunk bed and–Shazzam!–the archangel Moroni piped him up on the coming of the tsunami. Most mysterious. Lord knows where he’ll surf ashore…

WHY? RNC is Y

March 12th, 2011
2:52 pm

Acid flashbacks R not pretty.

Henryk Hofstad

March 12th, 2011
4:48 pm

…seriously, Man, where will he make his glorious reappearance? Like, Pike’s Market? The Lincoln Memorial again? Venus?

I vote: Venus. The dude’s a born Venusian. What I’m certain of, is that his fried surfboard will be discovered sixty feet up in the crotch of a pine tree one mile inland. Happened after Hugo. Can happen again, if Beck truly is The Annointed.

Meanwhile, back to our regularly scheduled Wooten…
In re the hilarious reactions here to Jim’s recommending the Trades as alternative career paths for undergraduates of faint HOPE. Some of us may recall that in 1984 the Reagan Administration proposed eliminating subsidies for the historic black colleges and universities. Paul Conrad, then the senior cartoonist of the Los Angeles Times, drew a panel depicting a young African American college student being told by President Reagan, “A Strong back is a terrible thing to waste”.

Now THAT is funny. For my money. Dang me, but I enjoy the humor both in Jim’s dare and in the derisions of his beard-pullers. (Reckon he might see it both ways too). Seriously, nobody’s trifling with anybody’s educational or existential future here. Several of us would be acutely sensitive to any whiff of that. So if HOPE recipients fear they’ll scurry from the Emerald Castle at the merest Boo! from The Wizard, then they’re not as fit as we hoped they would be to share the burdens of, much less make contributions to, Georgia.

So, BOO!

J.B. Stoner-(the white one)

March 12th, 2011
10:22 pm

Henryk Hofstad

March 13th, 2011
6:29 pm

Methinks you made a boo-boo. Anyway, with student fees and, where applicable, tuition rising out of sight with inflation, perhaps it’s best to look beyond those nasty curveballs and examine what else might be done to soften the blows. Especially for students pursuing technical majors the cost of books is nearing a breaking point. I’d like to see those costs first relaxed, then dramatically reduced. A relaxation in federal copyright law respecting educational uses could bring about some prompt relief. As an intermediate measure faculty should commit themselves to drive trucks through existing loopholes, making custom, Xeroxed readers available to students from the nearest copy shop. Ultimately, campuses should go as paperless as possible. MIT, which is run for academic purposes by its faculty, has pledged to do this. That’s not my school, but I admire it. The teachers understand that their students commonly spend enough on books per annum to match the fee hikes at public universities in the 45 states operating in the Red.

I admit that it’s apples&oranges, and I don’t mean to capitulate in defense of the lowest possible fees and tuition in tax-supported colleges and universities, but pragmatically there are ways to soften the blow. Bear in mind that for every dollar that the Georgia’s higher ed system gets from state taxpayers it gets almost twice as much from U.S. taxpayers. Obviously the more efficiencies we find, and the more efficient they be, the more Georgians (and distinguished visitors) we can run through our mills; ergo the better for our state long run.

Evelyn

March 13th, 2011
7:33 pm

Jim, this is the ugliest I have ever seen you. Your plumber reference was unnecessary and insulting to hard working plumbers. While you are correct that most families can handle a small loss of HOPE funding, some families will not be able to do so. If you had ever really gone hungry, I mean being totally without food, because the money ran out days before pay day, let alone on a frequent basis, you would not have made fun of the upcoming situations some families will face.

collegepotential

March 14th, 2011
6:41 am

Easy for him to say; he’s already gone through college.

Henryk Hofstad

March 14th, 2011
11:40 am

You can’t generalize from my experience. As an undergrad I carried a 21-unit load, year round, worked three campus jobs and a half-time internship, rode three days a week and shot skeet twice weekly. As a grad student I worked half-time on fellowship while studying full-time. I might add that a bit of romance, church attendance and general sis-boom-bah each held a place. Admittedly I did go hungry from time to time, largely because of unwise budgeting and an ignorance of frugal cooking, something I’d love to teach any undergrad. I’ve aways fought tuition and fee hikes. As an instructor I did everything I could to save grad students’ money.

The choices confronting the Governor and General Assembly are bitter. I would want undergrads in public institutions to understand that however daunting and uncertain their expenditures, still the taxpayers vastly overmatch those costs in the expectation of great things from the students. To graduate students: the worst hit yet to your pocketbook nevertheless doesn’t begin to cover the actual cost of your budgeted enrollments. Everything that serves you institutionally is more expensive: the instruction, the library collections, the laboratory space, the equipment and materials, the housing, etc

Atlanta, lacking the foresight and discipline to have socked away rainy-day moneys, now finds itself in an eminently foreseeable trap. The same economic crisis that spurs rising crime rates, has forced the city to cut frontline law enforcement. The state will have to ride to the rescue, on short rations. This is just one tile of the ugly fiscal mosaic into which students and their families, faculty and staff must be asked somehow to fit. We all should fight to ensure that the new fee/tuition rates drop as the fiscal picture improves. That’s crucial, because historically the university systems exploit downturns as stalking horses for the establishment of new funding levels at student expense. In the worst cases of this, the newly introduced ceilings become the new floor, the argument being that if families and students could afford it in hard times gone then surely their can afford it in a time of restored prosperity. That would be an example of institutional bloat at it’s cynical worst. We should watch out for it.

WHY? RNC is Y

March 14th, 2011
11:55 am

Retardo-rama.

Henryk Hofstad

March 14th, 2011
11:59 am

Sorry for the typos, tail end.

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

March 14th, 2011
2:28 pm

Carlosglen,

Remember on March 6, 2011 when we said our organization has God Almighty on our side, and the power thereof. And we believe because of what we saw.. And blessed are those who have not seen, and yet have believed. And how we can demonstrate the power of God Almighty on this evil New World Order integrationist crowd and their devilish black minions as Elijah did when he challenged the 450 prophets of Baal at the altar on Mount Carmel…

Verily, verily, verily, this evil New World Order integrationist crowd and their devilish black minions have hearts but lack understanding, eyes but can’t see, and ears that can’t hear, and a soul that’s darkened black.

Henryk Hofstad

March 14th, 2011
2:38 pm

RNC? I always worked for the other team? Why assume? Aren’t questions more fruitful?

Anyway, RNC or DNC until things heat up approaching the general we’re all in the same boat. Policy NOW, politics anon, alas and alack.

Henryk Hofstad

March 14th, 2011
2:45 pm

Besides, I’d rather have jumped seven in the saddle, or shot 25 x 25, than owned a sheepskin. The subtler point in Wooten’s universal put-down is something along the lines of what you can actually do versus the things that hinky haughty accreditors speculate you can do.

Henryk Hofstad

March 14th, 2011
3:09 pm

When precisely did Republicans take the mantle of fiscal responsibility? Throughout most of my middle lifetime each party spouted fiscal responsibility whilst each (arguably) overspent by dint of differing Cold War priorities. But my point is that both parties Palmer themselves off as penny pinchers, it was just that the spendthrift Democrats, not to be outdone by their more hawkish rivals, promised more domestic spending. Spending that turned out to be mostly symbolic, electioneered rather than engineered. Wasted. At everyone’s expense.

So, a second query.

Q: When did Democrats come to concede, as herein, fiscal discipline to Republicans?

A: Upon the death of Pat Moynihan at the beginning of 2001.

Henryk Hofstad

March 14th, 2011
3:23 pm

Dang, this Apple device. Must learn how to disable the vacuous-copy-editor-from-hell function, starting by overriding The Order Cupertine’s override of “hell” as, so help me, prudes, “he’ll”. Later, maybe I could get the. Appleites to permit the placement of punctuation in accurate attribution to the quoted author’s intent rather than to some idiot’s stylebook notion of ever placing syntactical punctuation athwart quotation marks.

We champion higher education whilst first infantalizing and then lobotomizing what remains of the American literary mind.

Henryk Hofstad

March 14th, 2011
5:45 pm

Only the knee-jerkmost lackeys for the union hall are indifferent to reason, as they’re only the fists of the unions, not connected to the brains thereof. Ugh!

Boo!

Idiot.