Where are you now, Emily’s List?

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

● The headline tells it all: “Failures rise at schools suspected of cheating.” The reference is to schools under investigation because of a pattern last year of changed answers on the important subject-knowledge tests given statewide to measure how well students are being taught. Atlanta students at some elementary and middle schools failed at up to four times the rate they did last year. Georgia doesn’t need national curriculum standards. It needs competent teaching and honest testing on the ones it has.

● Georgia has temporarily lifted limits on class size. Make it permanent. Let local officials make class-size calls and test the results. There’s long been too much regulatory interest in inputs. Outcomes matter.

● Do As I Say Department: President Barack Obama, who routinely blames George W. Bush for his every shortcoming and failing, tells high school students in a Kalamazoo, Mich., commencement address not to make excuses and to take personal responsibility for their failings. “You could have made excuses. …You could have spent years pointing fingers — blaming parents, blaming teachers, blaming the principal or the superintendent or the government. But instead, you came together. You were honest with yourselves about where you were falling short. And you resolved to do better.”

● All growing older should aspire to Zell Miller’s independence and the freedom to speak our mind without wanting anything that others can bestow in terms of power or possessions. We should fear, conversely, that we gain that status — and become Helen Thomas.

● Now that women, many of them strong conservatives like tea party favorite Sharron Angle in Nevada, have won GOP nominations for U.S. Senate or for governor, we’ll see how many of Emily’s List types who pride themselves on promoting “women” to higher office include “those women.” You know. Conservatives.

● Verifying the claims of political candidates, now popular in the media and related organizations, can be a walk through quicksand. To discern whether a politician is telling the truth sometimes requires the truth-squad to understand the conservative mind, as we saw during the health care cram-down. Does it save money? Does it ration care? Will bureaucrats influence end-of-life health care? Can you keep your insurance if you like it? And, too, all politicians should be allowed to interpret and to exaggerate optimistically the effect of their actions in, for example, creating jobs or recruiting industry. It’s impossible to tell where they stop honestly overstating their roles and start lying.

● A DeKalb group conducting a 4th Congressional District political forum invited the four blacks in the race — three Democrats and one Republican — but not Republican Liz Carter, who is white. A spokesman for the Newsmakers Live group said that “she wasn’t invited because at the time of this forum we did not know who she was.” A 10-second check of the Georgia Secretary of State’s Web site would have established her as a legitimate candidate from the first day of qualifying.

● Hundreds of lawsuits are in the works against Marietta, Austell, Powder Springs and Hiram by owners of flooded homes. Their claim is that the cities allowed too many parking lots and too much development. Cities should pay when three conditions are satisfied: (1) homeowners performed due diligence and could not possibly have known they were at risk of water damage; (2) city officials could reasonably have known that they were; (3) with that knowledge, officials acted with reckless disregard in permitting development beyond that allowed by cities of like size elsewhere in metro Atlanta. Some misfortunes that befall us are just acts of God.

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jmiles

June 10th, 2010
8:40 pm

Class size does matter-ask any veteran teacher. Twenty-five kids can be easiily taught; thirty-five is a crowd. In the former class, you can teach students; in the latter, you can only teach the class-the difference is enormous.

dylandawg

June 10th, 2010
9:03 pm

yes and Zell’s crazy duel rant was the mark of a sane man…..speaking of Fox News……that guy that worked for Clinton and told secrets to a hooker and now comments on fox….oh yeah Dick Morris…..said it was outrageous that Obama as a environment president did not overturn Bush/Cheney deregulations in regard to drilling…..he said it was outrageous……as a regular fox viewer that is the most awesome thing I have ever heard….and I hear a lot of awesome things….if you don’t watch the morning show and you are a fan of awesomeness…please tune in…you will laugh your tail off…those wacky hosts are the geratest

Real American

June 10th, 2010
9:40 pm

Sharon Angle is a nut, Emily’s List doesn’t promote nuts. And surely you can’t be so old as to think the Bush administration policies just stopped having any effect as of Jan 20, 2009..good grief, when are these AWM’s gonna die out already.

One Voice

June 10th, 2010
9:53 pm

Jim,

You wrote, “tests given statewide to measure how well students are being taught.” Those tests do nothing of the sort. This is one of the main problems with education policy. Everyone thinks they know about education because they went to school for 12 years and finished high school when in fact, they are woefully ignorant of the process.

In order to gauge how well students are being taught, you would need to give an equivalent pretest at the beginning of the year or semester and use the posttest to measure the change in between. It’s the only way, and it’s Assessment 101. If you give only a posttest, you have no idea what the students’ skill or knowledge levels were coming into the course. It’s not like college where there is far less variance in skill level, knowledge level, and intellect.

For instance, an 8th grade student may have come into class with a 4th grade reading level (very common) and the teacher may have done an amazing job and helped to bring his reading level up to a 7th grade level (3 grade levels in one year, very uncommon). However, if you just give a posttest, according to your way of thinking, you would say that the teacher had not “taught well” because that 8th grader has a 7th grade reading level at the end of the school year.

Teachers are not miracle workers. Many, many students come to them with knowledge and skills well below grade level. Unless you can control for initial skill levels, those end-of-course tests tell you very little about anything at all and certainly tell you absolutely nothing about what a teacher has taught. Unfortunately, most of the public is unaware of these very basic tenets of educational measurement, which are the same principals that apply to psychology and other sciences.

More disturbing is that there are administrators in country board of education offices who also do not know this information because they got “doctorates” from 2-year online diploma mills. They make 100k+ but simply are not qualified to make competent decisions regarding the vital tasks they are responsible for. One principal in my county got a masters and a doctorate in 3 years total from an online college (it usually takes 7 years to earn those degrees from real schools).

People who do not have enough knowledge of the subject matter, which includes the general public and you, Jim, always want to simplify things into a black and white sketch so they can understand and expound on the issues. Well, life is not always that simple and some issues actually take advanced knowledge to understand. Education is one of those issues because of the massive amount of variables involved. It’s an issue this country has been struggling with at high levels for more than a century. But I’m sure in the next couple days we’ll have hundreds of hillbillies chiming in with good ole fashion sound bites to echo our hillbilly host. But that’s Gawja fo ya, and it’s one of the reasons we are where we are.

Aquagirl

June 10th, 2010
9:55 pm

The AJC did quite a story on how paving and development directly affects flooding. It also outlined the utter lack of regard shown by government in any type of planning. Did God issue permitting and build Wal-Marts? You should try reading your own paper, Jim. Some of your colleagues still do old-fashioned reporting, I would think you’d encourage them instead of dismissing their efforts in a short paragraph.

when referring to GOP candidates like Sharron Angle, I prefer the gender-neutral term “those crazies” instead of “those women.”

Bummer on Helen Thomas. She’s a good example for a mandatory retirement age. Charlton Heston got a little wacked out in his last years too, I don’t think it detracts from his contributions.

One Voice

June 10th, 2010
10:03 pm

And by the way, Jim, you’re also clueless about class sizes and a national curriculum.

One Voice

June 10th, 2010
10:09 pm

Sharron Angle is great. I’m ecstatic she won. That loon will ensure that Harry Reid keeps his seat.

wxwax

June 11th, 2010
2:15 am

I don’t understand.

Emily’s List promotes the election of women who are pro-choice Democrats.

Why would you expect them to support tea party and GOP candidates?

Very odd thing to write.

DEWSTARPATH

June 11th, 2010
3:32 am

One Voice – Excellent post, particularly the point
you made about the paper mills.

When credentials become more important than
scholastic ability, you take one step forward while
taking three steps back.

Road Scholar

June 11th, 2010
6:37 am

“To discern whether a politician is telling the truth sometimes requires the truth-squad to understand the conservative mind,…”

What? The truth is the truth! What does a conservative mind think of the sun rising in the east and sets in the west? Jim, this has to be one of the stupidist things you have ever wrote. And you get paid for this stuff?

Coming in second for dumb is your contention that class sizes don’t matter and we need to experiment with them. What about the smaller class sizes at private schools and their typically higher grades /testscores? If it was a business, wouldn’t they enlarge the class size to increase their revenue and profit?

Road Scholar

June 11th, 2010
6:38 am

PS. Conservatives have minds?

The Cynical White Boy

June 11th, 2010
6:42 am

About the “flood” lawsuits in Cobb County, my grandfather, a native Cherokee, had this to say about metro-atlanta…”they cover the earth with concrete and then blame each other when the rain comes and the water has nowhere to soak into the earth”.

Bitter EX democrackkk

June 11th, 2010
6:52 am

Government screwls are nothing but agenda indoctrination centers that babysit the children of the clueless masses. Keeping them ALL dumbed down now for decades thus far. Get the government OUT of EDUCATION and just watch it improve immensely! There is NO provisision for the ‘Dept of Education’ in the US Constitution. ( Ditto ‘healthcare’ …)

Get your children OUT of government screwls as fast as you can!

Retired1

June 11th, 2010
6:54 am

Thanks for clarifying. People you like “honestly overstate their roles” but people you don’t like “start lying”.

Bitter EX democrackkk

June 11th, 2010
6:55 am

I hope every patriot in America will send Sharron Angle some $$$ for her noble goal of unseating one of the most VILE Senators, dirty Harry Reid.

Go SHARON! GO NIKKI Haley in SC too!!!

STRIVE to be SMARTER than the controlling party of government SLAVERY WANTS you to BE !!!

MiltonMan

June 11th, 2010
7:08 am

Obozo spends alot of time in Illinois & Michigan. I guess those are the only two states left that will allow this loser to speak. Funny to see the student fall asleep while Obozo was speaking; even high school kids finds this loser boring.

Morrus

June 11th, 2010
7:29 am

Curiously, in a supposed anti-incumbent year, most of the departing are not retiring but seeking higher office. We may recycle more than we replace. The bad news is that a frustrating 114 seats still have but one contestant. Two of them aren’t even incumbents, meaning they will affect state policy without being vetted by voters. And I have to think that we’d be better off if many had run instead for the Legislature — and cut down on the number running unopposed. Georgia’s problems are numerous. They aren’t going away. There’s too much stale thinking at the Capitol, on both sides of the aisle. New voices would be welcome.

JCDithers

June 11th, 2010
7:34 am

Retirement has not been kind to you, Jim. Your mind gets more feeble each week. Why Emily’s List would support Sharron Angle (actually, why anyone would support Sharron Angle, but that’s for another day) is just one more of those absurd things that Jim says just for attention. It’s not just about promoting women, Jim. The mission statement says that they are dedicated to electing pro-choice Democratic women to all levels of office. Why would they support Angle, who still pushes the “abortion leads to breast cancer” myth? why write this stuff, and waste everyone’s time? Including yours. Just kick back, have a beer and watch the Braves. You are done.

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

June 11th, 2010
7:41 am

It’s obvious that Lebanese American Helen Thomas would love to see the White Jews in Israel abandon reason like the original Blacks in Egypt, Libya, Sudan, etc.

…In addition to its strategic location, Black Egypt was desired by the Muslim Arabs for its richness and prosperity. Thus, in his attempts to convince Caliph Umar, Amr was quoted saying: O Commander of the Faithful, permit me to march on Black Egypt. It will be a source of strength and sustenance for the Muslims. It is the richest of lands on earth.

So what are you saying Dr. Stan, the black one? I’m saying the Arabs should get the hell out of Black Egypt, Black Libya, Black Sudan, etc. Remember, those Africans are occupied. And the land belongs to Black Africans. It’s not Kuwait. It’s not Yemen. Arabs should go home to Kuwait, Qatar, and Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Yemen, Saudi Arabia, the Arabian Peninsula.

There is no doubt in my mind that Lebanese American Helen Thomas, who is independent and free to speak her mind, will wholeheartedly, without reservation, disagree.

Will

June 11th, 2010
7:41 am

Republican newspaper writers are just like democrat newspaper writers. Your “conservative philosophy” is your standard only when you want it to be.

For example, this morning you are the “good conservative” in believing that, “Let local officals make class size calls and test the results. There’s long been to much regulatory interest in inputs.”

Amen, all good conservatives know that smaller government is good government and a locally elected board of education is better than a state (or federally) runned education, right? Except when you don’t believe that. For example, do you also believe that, “Let local officials make the charter schools call and test the results. There’s long been too much regulatory interests in inputs”? I didn’t think so.

Oh well, philosophy is a good thing only when it is not a bad thing.

JCDithers

June 11th, 2010
8:07 am

Good point, Will. It’s like Sarah Palin coming down on the President for not regulating the oil industry enough, after running for Veep on the “Drill, baby, Drill” platform. Whatever fits the moment is what we say. And of course, Jim, we know that the Bush-Cheney deregulation of the oil industry had no effect on offshore drilling and/or this environmental disaster, because all of the harm the Oil Twins did magically went away when Obama was elected. Right, Jim?

Bill

June 11th, 2010
8:19 am

Will healthcare be rationed? It always has been. If you have money or insurance, you get it. Otherwise, too bad.

If you want to pick a role model for aging, Jimmy Carter is certainly a better role model than Zell Miller, regardless of what you think of his presidency.

Some misfortunes that befall us are just acts of God. Right, just like the oil spill.

Bill

June 11th, 2010
8:22 am

I like the phrase “thinking conservative”. There are some, like George Will and David Brooks. However, between Rush Limbough and loyalty oaths, it seems that most conservatives have sworn off thinking for themselves.

PW

June 11th, 2010
8:25 am

That the AJC actually pays you a salary for the nonsense you write is amazing.

Bill

June 11th, 2010
8:26 am

If class sizes don’t matter, visit one of our top local private schools, and ask them why there are only 10 desks in a room.

Gator Joe

June 11th, 2010
8:33 am

Jim,
Angle may gain a bit more acceptance if she begins to move into, at least, the 20th Century; it’s probably asking too much of her to look at the 21st.

Mid-South Philosopher

June 11th, 2010
8:37 am

Good morning, Jim,

I have been involved in some capacity with public schools for almost 40 years. Along the way, I have weathered “Minimum Foundations”, “APEG”, “A Nation at Risk”, “the CRT”, “Goals 2000/America 2000″, “the Georgia A-Plus Education Act”, ” the No Child Left Behind (no teacher left with one) Act”, “the Georgia Performance Standards”, and “the CRCT cheating debacle.” This fall, Silly Sonny and the Gold Dome Dunces are going to tack on “National Standards” and some sort of foolish “foot race to the top”… of Brasstown Ball, I think.

Anyway…I guess I must have done a p*ss-poor job in my career. Kids are still not learning or being successful at least on those “idiot tests” that folks like Silly Sonny would never have a chance of passing. Of course, there is K**, who is my dentist, R**, who administered my last chest x-ray, T**, who is a state trooper, J**, who is a army officer, S**, who is a postmaster, C** who is a member of a school board, and countless others…all former students and all successful and contributing members of society!

I could have had a successful career if I had just taken all the advice I have received. Everyone from my friend, Jim, on this blog, to Joe the Plumber, to Bradley, a regular fixture down at the bar, not to mention those countless “irate” parents, who thought I was an “idiot”, all have told me that if I would just do what they wanted the problems of education would vanish like melted butter on hot cornbread.

So now the powers that be don’t think I have enough students. Increase the class size. I would love to see some of those Gold Dome Dunces or educational bureaucrats walk into a class of 35 middle school bubbas and brothers and attempt to reveal the intricacies of Algebra…yes, Algebra is taught in middle school now-a-days.

As for me, I think I am going to take-up knee surgery. I watched a full-blown knee replacement operation on the discovery channel not too long ago. I was struck by how similar that work was with woodworking, especially when they used those little chisels to trim down the bone and cartilage. I can do that and charge a lot less than the regular doctors, thus holding down insurance costs. Maybe I can use my spare garage for an operating room!

Foolish idea…you bet…kind of like some of those relating to public schools.

Aquagirl

June 11th, 2010
8:45 am

” the No Child Left Behind (no teacher left with one) Act”

God, that’s hilarious…A+ for creative writing, Mid-South.

Jerry

June 11th, 2010
8:51 am

Look at Wooten’s photo above. His hair is so yesterday….. Oops, is this thing on? I meant I think Jim Wooten posted a marvelous piece today and it should generate a very informative and entertaining debate.

Jethro

June 11th, 2010
8:55 am

“Some misfortunes that befall us are just acts of God.” And some are the acts of greed. God stuck around when his project was complete. Developers did not.

AJC Reports Some of the News

June 11th, 2010
9:06 am

Jim, you make a lot more sense than your two associates, Tucker and Bookman who love to hammer on Sharon Angle and other conservatives running for office. Where’s their take on the left’s miserable failure in Arkansas led by Move On and unions? No mention by the AJC of the fiasco in SC where Mr. Greene won the Democratic senate nomination with hardly any effort on his part or party check of his past. What does that tell you about SC democratic voters or Clyburn’s indignation of having this man on “our ballot”? Watch the big tent in action as they “fix” the election!

That's so Eons Ago.....

June 11th, 2010
9:17 am

There’s a report out today about how Neanderthals were bred out of existence by humans. There’s a theory that states we had enslaved the Neanderthals and they were domesticated servants and field hands (and lavatory assistants).

Any way, Desperate Cavewives of Lascaux apparently couldn’t resist those brawny chests, muscular legs, and flat heads and they went full Octomom and eventually a hybrid human/neanderthal evolved out of the Paleo-rave. That matches the biblical accounts of Eve being the one who screwed up.

I like it. It works. It means we truly are nothing more than monkeys with ipuds.

I knew it!!

God

June 11th, 2010
9:21 am

My greatest work is childhood cancer. It’s slow and painful.

Just like when my followers tortured innocents during the crusades. But not like the quick death my Muslim followers experience when they commit suicide bombings in the name of me – GOD.

Bow before me else I will inflict thee too little peon worshiper. Pray and pray and pray some more. Squint your eyes and bow your head my slave. Or bow down 5 times. It’s all the same to me.

Now I must go and kill more children. It’s part of my “plan”. Not so mysterious, just heartless and cruel.

And not unlike Hitler’s Final Solution. Adolph and I are very much alike don’t you think?

mit

June 11th, 2010
9:27 am

Now that women, many of them strong conservatives like tea party favorite Sharron Angle in Nevada, have won GOP nominations for U.S. Senate or for governor, we’ll see how many of Emily’s List types who pride themselves on promoting “women” to higher office include “those women.” You know. Conservatives.

None, they are a pro-choice, democrat organization genius.

D-Boe

June 11th, 2010
9:39 am

“Let local officials make class-size calls and test the results.”

If you’re so in favor of local control, then why aren’t you advocating for MARTA to have a say over its own finances, instead of some state rep from Hiawasee being including in the decision-making? Why the double-standard?

Marty

June 11th, 2010
9:42 am

Lift all regulations on everything, that’s the right’s answer to everything. Who cares if class sizes are huge? In Jim’s circles, their kids go to private schools anyway where over crowding is never a problem. Next subject!

Ragnar Danneskjöld

June 11th, 2010
9:52 am

Georgia does not “need” competent teaching; it needs vouchers for those who desire competent teaching. The current teaching is sufficient for most of the place-holders marking time between birth and the work-day world.

I will not allege “hypocrisy” in the bizarre disconnect between President Obama’s historical actions and his exhortation to the students of Kalamazoo. Perhaps our nation’s inexperienced chief executive has finally learned something beneficial. And perhaps pelicans really like crude oil.

Age reveals the soul. So it is with Zell Miller, still respected by all but the loopiest leftists, and so it is with Helen Thomas, reviled by all but the loopiest leftists.

Re: Emily’s list, perhaps you saw Taranto’s amusing note yesterday, which I quote in toto:

Must Libbers Be Liberals?
It’s a question nobody is asking, except for Cathy Young in the Boston Globe:
The latest Sarah Palin controversy has to do with feminism. In a recent article in the Washington Post, feminist author and blogger Jessica Valenti blasted the former vice presidential candidate for “adopting the feminist label.” Valenti believes that any talk of a conservative version of feminism is a cynical right-wing ploy to fool women into supporting reactionary antiwoman policies. But while Palin may be far from the best spokeswoman for conservative feminism, the idea itself is essential to feminism’s health.
If feminism is typecast as a left-wing movement, this automatically limits its appeal in a country with center-right politics. Feminist writer Naomi Wolf noted this nearly two decades ago when she urged the movement to drop litmus tests that excluded millions of women because of their positions on environmental policy, guns, gay rights, or abortion. Wolf argued that the beliefs of conservative and Republican women who champion female autonomy and achievement should be “respected as a right-wing version of feminism.”

Young goes on in this vein for several hundred words, but it occurs to us that there’s an easier way to settle the question. Consider the following slight revision of a popular joke:

Q: How many conservative feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: That’s not funny!

If you laughed, then conservatives can be feminists.

Mr. Holmes

June 11th, 2010
9:58 am

Jim Wooten, meet Furman Bisher. Here’s a checkerboard, I’ll be back at medication time.

Nate McLouth

June 11th, 2010
10:07 am

People that run Emily’s List are bitter, fat, cat people that are destined to be on the show, Hoarders. They are a drain on their families and society, in general. No one would miss if them if they left. Bunch a fat worthless hens, I tell ya.

lazermike

June 11th, 2010
10:32 am

If the headline says it all, why did you have to elaborate on it in the next sentence?

Mr. Holmes

June 11th, 2010
10:58 am

“And perhaps pelicans really like crude oil.”

Frankly I’m surprised no Republican/Tea Partier has floated that as a serious contribution to the debate.

Weed man

June 11th, 2010
11:11 am

Ragweed, I am a moderate, but I think Zell Miller’s mind jumped the track about thirty miles back. He is just a ranting loon these days. It is sad that he does not take the isolationist road Ronald Reagan took at the end of his life when his mind started to go. Zell just needs to hole up in his cabin and wait. Quietly.

Dusty Trails off into the Distance

June 11th, 2010
3:34 pm

Where’s Dusty when you need her?

Phyllis Tallent

June 11th, 2010
8:24 pm

I believe we would all be better served if our editorialists (including those on TV and radio) would take more time to be factual. Emily’s List promotes candidates who are pro-choice. The GOP female candidates who prevailed this past Tuesday are not pro-choice. So, Mr. Wooten’s question about where are the Emily Listers now is nonsensical. Does Mr. Wooten believe women will simply support a candidate because she is female? We should support Angle, who endorses scientology in schools and prisons, opposes fluoridation, and wanted to prohibit alcohol sales in NV, (there’s more) because she is female? Or we should support Carly Fiorina because she’s female? Ask the employees of Hewlett Packard how well qualified Fiorina is.
Also, I would also like someone to explain why Mr. Wooten chose to put women in quotation marks. Or could he just not refuse one more incomprehensible detail?

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

June 11th, 2010
10:14 pm

SOS Jim Wooten, SOS.

After approching1.5 million views of the video, ‘We Conned The World’, via the internet, members of our illustrious organization sat around computers this evening to review its psychological and political impact upon the viewers. When we clicked on at 10:00 PM, we received the following message:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Warner/ Chappell Music, Inc. . . .

SOS Jim Wooten, SOS.

Susan Joseph

June 11th, 2010
10:59 pm

You and I do not see things the same way but I did hope that when you “spoke” you did so from an informed position. Clearly that isn’t necessarily so. In your editorial “Where are you now, Emily’s List?” you raise the question of how many of the conservative women candidates will be endorsed by Emily’s List. You imply that women who pride themselves on encouraging women to higher office are hypocritical if they don’t endorse these conservative candidates. Obviously you have failed to read the purpose of Emily’s List. If you had any interest in presenting accurate information rather than inflammatory, accusatory rhetoric, all you had to do was a google search and you would immediately have found that “Emily’s List is a national organization dedicated to electing pro-choice Democratic women to office.” It is my guess that very few, if any of these candidates fit both of Emily’s List’s criteria.

It is this total disregard for informed opinions that makes your column not worth reading.

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

June 12th, 2010
9:44 am

Jim,

The female politicians on Emily’s List are responsible for the ‘cold blooded’ murder of innocent babies nationwide; but especially in the African American community.

They have enabled African American women to murder over half the babies, via abortion, they should have birthed since 1973 Roe vs. Wade; precisely 52% They have abandoned reason..

Our illustrious organization believes individuals in the United States and around the world should determine if the ‘We Conned the World’ video is applicable to them, their community, or nation.

Check out the verses applicable to my community. Words were altered to show how we’ve been conned.

…If murdering babies
Brightens up your mood
But you worry
That it may not look so good
Well well well don’t you realize
You just gotta call yourself
A devotee for a woman’s right to choose?

We’ll make the world
Abandon reason
We’ll make them all believe
Killing a baby is a personal decision…

Phyllis Tallent

June 12th, 2010
10:12 am

Susan: It’s good to see that another reader has attempted to keep Wooten from escaping without comment on his error ridden column. It appears that the right really relies too heavily on their followers not being knowledgeable. I wonder how many people read the Emily’s List column and said, “yeah, right! Where are those “women” (Wooten’s quotation marks) now?” Well, they’re right where they always were: endorsing pro-choice candidates. Are there no editors left at the AJC who could have pointed out this fact error to Wooten before he published? I believe it’s too much to expect that Mr. Wooten will fact check before he submits his work. He’s come this far without that extra step. And, let’s face it, the majority of his readers don’t know the difference.

Dr. Stan (The Black One)

June 12th, 2010
11:22 am

When we understand that women and men have been conned to be ignorantly evil under the label of intelligence, independence, progressiveness, and we remain silent, those wicked women and men will die in their iniquity… But God Almighty will charge us for their evil ways because they erred because of their blindness.

Nevertheless, if we warn those wicked women and men of their ways, but they steadfastly refuse to change, those wicked women and men will surely die in their blindness, ignorance, and iniquity. But God Almighty will not hold us responsible for their wicked ways because we shinned the light into their darkness.

Amen.

JCDithers

June 12th, 2010
3:19 pm

Phyllis, in fairness, wxwax and I tried to give Jim the heads up his facts were wrong and his proposition that Emily’s Listers should support the GOP female winners was ludicrous yesterday. However, having read Jim’s columns for years, I know as well as anyone that Jim just doesn’t care what the facts are. He just tries to make everything fit in his little box. He doesn’t realize that when it doesn’t, he looks foolish and stupid, not the people he’s trying to belittle. It is a hopeless cause to expect Jim to pay attention to details and facts. he just doesn’t care.