Believe Obama or ‘lying eyes?’

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

● Ah, the free press. There’s nothing like it. Lay out the obtainable information that points to wrongdoing by public officials, and a free people will act — as they have in DeKalb County. Former school Superintendent Crawford Lewis, former chief operating officer Patricia Reid and her former husband and her secretary have been indicted on various corruption charges related to school contracts. Kudos to AJC reporters Megan Matteucci, Tim Eberly and others who have pursued the scandal for months. Next to murder and armed robbery, the most detestable crimes are white-collar and public trust violations.

● State Rep. Tom Graves of Ranger, one of the candidates in a runoff to succeed Nathan Deal in Congress, has collected more than $300,000 from Club for Growth members determined to elect fiscal conservatives to Congress. His opponent, State Sen. Lee Hawkins of Gainesville, collects $107,000 from dentists outside Georgia. If transparent and voluntary, it’s no big deal. If House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had serious competition, I’d cheerfully give to her opponent. Free speech. Now if the contributions are being made without donor approval, that’s another matter.

● “Who are you going to believe, me, or your lying eyes?” asked Groucho Marx. President Obama told us that health care revision — which, incidentally, 63 percent of Americans want repealed — would be a cost-saver. The lying eyes of benefits experts at 661 companies read the legislation otherwise. Fully 94 percent, according to a Towers Watson study, say the law will raise their costs; 88 percent intend to pass increased costs on to employees and 74 percent expect reduced health benefits and programs. Obama or their lying eyes?

● You have to admire the restraint of Gwinnett Superior Court Judge Michael Clark. He found a term — “not unlawful” — to apply to the executive branch decision to divide the county into five zones and to charge $321 in advance for 18 months of garbage service. Since county officials had not put the service out for bids and had not established a clear process for selecting those given territorial franchises, it was “not necessarily unlawful, arbitrary or capricious.” Admirable judicial restraint, and a clear signal to Gwinnett taxpayers to force county government into the sunshine.

● “I need training,” explains DeKalb County State Court Judge Barbara Mobley. “I’ve only been on the bench five years.” What’s the big deal? Tab for three of those years: $25,000, twice that of her peers, to attend conferences in Jamaica, Panama and the Virgin Islands. Five years ago she should have acknowledged that she did not think herself qualified and would not be for years to come. Judges can bone up on their bench work in Athens. Athens as in Georgia.

● Campaign barbecues, once a staple of Georgia politics, have largely lost their luster and appeal. A great exception, though, is the Walton County Republican Party’s, held last Monday at Roy Roberts’ farm near Monroe. Most all the biggies running statewide were there, including Georgia’s next governor. U.S. Sen. Johnny Isakson thinks it may be the state’s best political barbecue event.

● Propose a transportation sales tax increase, as Georgia legislators have done, and the visionaries spending other peoples’ money start planning monuments, and costly ones at that. Cobb County commissioners have given the county’s transportation director authority to try to sell a 14-mile light-rail line, projected to cost at least $2 billion, running from the Galleria to Town Center near Kennesaw. Please. Fix the bottlenecks. Make traffic move. Put the money where it produces the greatest benefit to the most people.

238 comments Add your comment

Saul Good

May 27th, 2010
7:45 pm

Rail moves the MOST people with NO traffic or bottlenecks… If it’s good enough for Millionaires who take the train from Bedford, NY or Greenwich CT into Manhattan 5 days a week… it’s good enough for the citizens of GA.

Libs hate America

May 27th, 2010
7:58 pm

Obama hates white people…..

Libs hate America

May 27th, 2010
7:59 pm

“Obama or their lying eyes?”

Obama lied in his late press conference. He lied about being on top of the problem since day one. This guy gave the go ahead to drill and then came back and said that all drilling in US oceans is off. I guess he’ll be changing his tune come November. He’s not gonna have many friends in Washington.

Rand Paul could beat up Obama.

Dave

May 27th, 2010
8:03 pm

Though I agree with you on what Gwinnett County did with the garbage deal, “not unlawful” is the same as “not guilty.” Put another way, lawful and innocent. The Judge is expressing a political opinion with his language, not a legal opinion.

Barry

May 27th, 2010
8:37 pm

In the real world – that is, the Georgia that isn’t in Atlanta – political barbecues are still the staples of the campaign season. An election event without barbecue and bluegrass music ought to be illegal.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

May 27th, 2010
8:42 pm

Good evening all. One’s mind hears Captain Renault discussing the honesty of DeKalb politicians. Lewis, the Reids, Judge Mobley – all birds of a feather.

I think apt the analogy of Obama to the “Groucho” character; my compliments to out host for the insight.

Gwinnett voters deserve the government they elect; it is not Judge Clark’s job to protect the voters from their own stupidity. Same with the “transportation sales tax;” the sardines will vote for a new tin.

At risk of noting the obvious, the reason “Campaign barbecues … have largely lost their luster and appeal” is that the decent people who may otherwise be attracted to such events noticed a large number of politicians in the vicinity. I’d run the other way too.

B

May 27th, 2010
9:52 pm

Hey Whacky, Did you forget that your Gal Kathy Kox bailed out on the students of Georgia and her Repubican party ! She has been an awful advocate for the students of Georgia and now she jumps the ship which she helped sink – pitiful !

Aquagirl

May 27th, 2010
9:56 pm

Did those companies think health care costs were going to magically drop if legislation hadn’t passed? Prices have been increasing for years. Ho-hum.

Jim makes another plea to pave, pave, pave until we drop from asphyxiation. Hope your new grandchild doesn’t have asthma. You can ponder the benefits of rail while waiting at the ER.

Jesus luvs Cannabis

May 27th, 2010
10:07 pm

Obama is the Man! Peace and Love to All….

Bill

May 27th, 2010
10:25 pm

Be careful what you ask for, you just might get your request. We wanted a change and that’s what we got. It’s called an Obomanation, hardly what we had in mind.

The Cynical White Boy

May 27th, 2010
11:10 pm

This just in….

Comrade Obama has invited the Oil Spill and the Gulf of Mexico up to the White House for the holiday weekend where they will both share a beer (at our expense) and discuss their differences. Then all will be well.

Long live Comrade Obama.

mike

May 28th, 2010
3:43 am

If you folks could do so much better than the President why don’t you morons step up and be recognized. It strange how people who look just like you can cause all these problems and then blame the clean up on someone else.

Atlantan

May 28th, 2010
6:11 am

Mike – admit it, either Obama is in over his head or his malfeasance is intentional. The world is just getting started to test his brilliance. Coming this summer – threat of war in Korea, threat of war between Israel / Iran and her puppets, Euro collapse, threat of the double dip recession, and that doesn’t include the gulf disaster, getting Mike Myers on to the Supreme Court bench, stimulus II & cap & tax.

Obama is well on his way to be the worst President in American history. You people who voted for him I hope you are proud of the pain and damage you have inflicted on this great country.

Mid-South Philosopher

May 28th, 2010
7:41 am

Good morning, Jim,

So the next Governor of Georgia was present at the Walton County Republican Party’s barbecue out at Roy Robert’s the other day, huh. D*mn time we had a governor. Can he start early? The current one needs to embark on a new “weight loss” program that involves a shovel and horse barn!

As for Obama and “your lying eyes”, anyone who would ever believe a politician when she or he says, “This will reduce costs”, ought to have to have to help Sonny in that horse barn!

On another matter that you didn’t touch on today, Jim, isn’t it about time someone put North Korea out of its misery?

Now, on a totally serious and non-offensive note, have a safe and enjoyable Memorial Day, and while enjoying family and friends, don’t forget that the day is to honor those men and women who have given the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom. Also, don’t forget one other group, who, although they may have never carried a weapon in battle, have given more than any of us, still living, can imagine…the Gold Star Mothers and families of our honored dead.

Morrus

May 28th, 2010
7:43 am

Curiously, in a supposed anti-incumbent year, most of the departing are not retiring but seeking higher office. We may recycle more than we replace. The bad news is that a frustrating 114 seats still have but one contestant. Two of them aren’t even incumbents, meaning they will affect state policy without being vetted by voters. And I have to think that we’d be better off if many had run instead for the Legislature — and cut down on the number running unopposed. Georgia’s problems are numerous. They aren’t going away. There’s too much stale thinking at the Capitol, on both sides of the aisle. New voices would be welcome.

Dr. Stan-(The Black One)

May 28th, 2010
8:55 am

Jim Wooten, a member of the ‘free press’ said it best: “The Harvard student, scheduled to graduate this spring, who made up credentials to gain acceptance, is a product of a culture that invites resume-padding. For decades, we’ve cultivated the now-myth that rampant discrimination and other illegitimate barriers keep people from getting the jobs and admissions opportunities they deserve. So any gaming necessary to get your foot in the door, and to prove that you can do the job or handle the classes, as Adam Wheeler did, is fair game…”

If you think the system’s dishonest and life is unfair, it’s OK to be dishonest to be dishonest and unfair.

Former school Superintendent Crawford Lewis, former chief operating officer Patricia Reid and her former husband and her secretary have been indicted on various corruption charges related to school contracts. District Attorney Gwen Keyes Fleming and her staff should have a field day given the myth we’ve cultivated for decades. If the system is dishonest, immoral, and illegal, it’s acceptable for citizens to be likewise. Lewis, 56, faces a maximum of 105 years in prison. Reid, also 52, faces up to 115 years in prison…

A diverse group of pseudo ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ in our country believe in abortion. Well let’s be more precise. Those pseudo representatives of God Almighty are not that forthcoming. But in no uncertain terms, they say a woman should be free to murder her unborn baby or bring the pregnancy to term. It’s her decision. And since the State legalized abortion, 1973 Roe vs. Wade to 2010, African American women have murdered over half their babies that should have been born during that period of time, 52%

It matters not that murder is ruled to be lawful by the State. Retribution for murder is always meted out by God’s natural law. Conyers police Chief Gene Wilson believes that 16 year old Jasmiyah and Tasmiyah Whitehead murdered their mother, Jarmeca “Nikki” Whitehead, 34. Jarmeca was stabbed multiple times and beaten.

My heartfelt sympathies go out to the Whitehead family. But if women, especially African American, continue the practice of murdering their babies via abortion, we can logically and naturally conclude babies fortunate to survive a pregnancy will murder adults.

Rev Al Sharptongue

May 28th, 2010
9:05 am

But if women, especially African American, continue the practice of murdering their babies via abortion, we can logically and naturally conclude babies fortunate to survive a pregnancy will murder adults.

I do not get your analogy here. You sound insane.
So Black women have killed 1/2 of all Black children born since 1973 with abortion? I though Black women had too many children out of wedlock only to collect welfare during that time, so which is it? are we killing too many babies or are we having to many?

Of course Black abortions are far worse than white ones. How many white women had abortions vs black women?

Why always so much concern about Black people but never the White majority ills?

Dr. Stan-(The Black One)

May 28th, 2010
9:24 am

Rev Al Sharptongue,

You are talking about apples and oranges, numbers as opposed to percentages? I never defend a position merely for the sake of arguing.

I can recommend a site that corrects the ills of white people and others.

http://www.radioliberty.com

RJ

May 28th, 2010
9:27 am

Wow, Wooten and I agree on something. Yes, do something to alleviate traffic. $2 billion is an extremely small price to pay for the reduction in lost productivity caused by workers sitting in traffic. It’s the type of responsible spending that the government should have done with the stimulus bill.

WAW

May 28th, 2010
9:29 am

Roy Barnes was at the Walton County Republican Bar-B-Que? Well, good to see you admit you was wrong eight years ago!

Robert J. O'Donnell, D.D.S.

May 28th, 2010
10:50 am

Jim: Lee Hawkins has raised 107K from dentists from within the state of Georgia. 20K has come from dentists around the country. Lee is a past president of the Georgia Dental Association and a local business man who knows healthcare.

somewhereinga

May 28th, 2010
11:04 am

Just questioning….but doesn’t 2 billion seem a little high to be shuttling shoppers from one mall to another?

mrs. w

May 28th, 2010
11:11 am

Yep. My company DOUBLED my healthcare insurance effective May 1. What was once a terrific deal for the employees is now just so, so.

And as for those bozo’s in Gwinnett County? You can bend over and kiss it good bye next election. Every last one of you. High handed a-holes one and all.

Can't wait til Nov.

May 28th, 2010
11:17 am

Judge Clark should be fired disbarred and jailed for theft.
Obama is simply a LIAR, he is only interested in grabbing power, he’s got his cronies in Washington helping him destroy over two centuries of history which made this nation great.
Mr President you have acted stupidly, you lied during your campaign and have continued to lie.

BULLSEYE

May 28th, 2010
12:11 pm

Wooten=Thinking White.

RetiredSoldier

May 28th, 2010
12:38 pm

BULLSEYE=Not Thinking

School Teacher

May 28th, 2010
12:56 pm

Hey Atlantan at 6:51 am, I am proud!

School Teacher

May 28th, 2010
12:58 pm

And by the way, Atlantan, I teach American History and when I teach, it’s not Obama that gets the label of worst President in American history.
Have a nice weekend Atlantan!

rdh

May 28th, 2010
1:08 pm

“Obama or their lying eyes”

It is worse than that. The Congress WILL NOT cut Medicare reimbursements… which was supposed to save $200+ Billion over the first10 years and way more than that over the next 10 years. Those cuts were the cornerstone of health care financing… and this liberal Congress passed that plan knowing full well they would never take place. This virtually ensures U.S. default/bankruptcy in less than 20 years.

Nothing is Free

May 28th, 2010
3:06 pm

It is worse than that. The Congress WILL NOT cut Medicare reimbursements… which was supposed to save $200+ Billion over the first10 years and way more than that over the next 10 years. Those cuts were the cornerstone of health care financing… and this liberal Congress passed that plan knowing full well they would never take place. This virtually ensures U.S. default/bankruptcy in less than 20 years.

Rev Al Sharptongue

May 28th, 2010
3:42 pm

This blog is dead, I guess Cynthia is the only one who can pack em in

Gator Joe

May 28th, 2010
5:58 pm

Jim,
You are typical of most Obama bashers, you all have suddenly come to life now that an intelligent, Black man was elected president. You and your fellow Right Wingers are long on criticism and short on constructive ideas. Obama was given an impossible task of correcting eight years of Bush/Cheney without Republican cooperation at the outset of his presidency. Where were you and your fellow bashers during the Bush/Cheney blunders?

Bryce

May 29th, 2010
8:55 am

I wouldn’t give Obama the title of the worst president…that belongs to Jimmy Carter. Obama is making a good start though.

Fang1944

May 29th, 2010
10:45 am

…which, incidentally, 63 percent of Americans want repealed …

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Is there a source for this, Jim? Could it be the Rasmussen Poll which always slants its questions so that it comes out with rightwing results?

Jerry

May 29th, 2010
12:30 pm

Conservatism and political Barbeques have smoked the Georgia we once knew. I want my Georgia back georgia back georgia back georgia back georgia back georgia back georgia back georgia back

I want my georgia back georgia back georgia back………

Lee

May 29th, 2010
4:26 pm

As a CPA, I get solicitations for those “vacation clusters” training all the time. Everything from Hawaii, to Alaskan cruises, Aspen ski trips, Bahamas, you name it. Basically, you sit in a class for about four hours per day and play the rest of the time. Sounds like Judge Mobley needs a refresher course in ethics.

I read the entire 127 page indictment against Lewis/Pope. Yes, I really need to get a life but that stuff facinates me. If all the charges are correct, the arrogance of these so called “public servants” is astounding.

The Association of Certified Fraud Examiners list a 1-800-hotline as one of the best fraud detection measures out there. Since these school systems manage budgets in the hundreds of million$ (over a BILLION$$ for Gwinnett), sounds like they need something like that.

“Who are you going to believe, me, or your lying eyes?” Neither. I have a rule of thumb to believe about half of what I see and about 1/10th of what I hear. Works well for me.

retiredds

May 29th, 2010
5:17 pm

Jim, I know you won’t comment on the item below but I wanted you to see it because it concerns your Republican friends in Washington.

Republicans, who share blame for the deficits the government ran when they were in power and in particular for the increase in the national debt from the tax cuts and spending increases they passed under former President George W. Bush, are also under pressure to show they have changed their ways as well if they hope to win over the Tea Party set.

Looks like the shoe is on both the Democrats and Republican feet with regard to deficits. Have a good Memorial Day weekend.

Bob Loblaw

May 29th, 2010
5:40 pm

“This blog is dead, I guess Cynthia is the only one who can pack em in”

Yeah, she has a whooping 10 repeat bloggers.

Bob Loblaw

May 29th, 2010
5:42 pm

“If you folks could do so much better than the President why don’t you morons step up and be recognized. It strange how people who look just like you can cause all these problems and then blame the clean up on someone else.”

2012 baby! Obama is gonna get bounced like Jimmy Carter!

Oh, and way to play the race card. Keep on playing it though because you gals don’t have any cards left. Nancy Pelosi just blamed Bush for the BP oil spill.

Here’s a free tip for you and your democommie brethren. The “blame Bush” card is over with. No one is buying it anymore.

Bob Loblaw

May 29th, 2010
5:44 pm

“now that an intelligent, Black man was elected president”

He’s so intelligent he’s let his approval rating drop to 43%. He’s so intelligent he’s got the entire country pissed at him.

“Obama was given an impossible task”

Well, if it’s so tough maybe he should have stayed in Chicago at his racist church.

“Where were you and your fellow bashers during the Bush/Cheney blunders?”

Working and making a living.

Bob Loblaw

May 29th, 2010
5:45 pm

“Why always so much concern about Black people but never the White majority ills?”

Answer: Because white people work for a living.

Bob Loblaw

May 29th, 2010
5:47 pm

“it’s not Obama that gets the label of worst President in American history.”

Yeah, that medal goes to Jimmy Carter. Then again, you’re probably a public school teacher who teaches kids that white people are evil, Bush was racist and America sucks.

John Maher

May 29th, 2010
9:40 pm

If this is in large part redundant, all I can say is your software cut me off in mid-stream.

As a fan, I an truly disappointed by the inversion of values implicit in the last sentence of your first bulley. The highest crimes are treason and sale of office. attacking or undermining the commonwealth or other consensually-created polity, they attack all licit participants in the polity. That other offenses defined as crimes may be brutish, bloody, destructive of property, otherwise offensive or any combination of these does not elevate them to offenses against organized society at large.

A society such as ours in which career pols have sold the thesis that being caught, exposed as criminals and denied continuing access to office holders’ perqs is punishment sufficient unto the crime is in deep trouble. I, for ne, did not weap when counsel for a convicted Congressman argued in extenuation that conviction cost him access to House dining faciklities. Corrupt Georgians are unfortunately obvious but, relatively speaking in terms of only the obvious, quantitatively insignificant compared to such as California, Pennsylvania and New York.

Your inversion of societal values sets you up for buying into the pols’ preaching about a need to go along to get along. Accepting that thesis on the part of an office holder is itself corrupt.

Cheers

My President Bribes People!

May 30th, 2010
9:53 am

We can’t trust Obama and especially his cronies one bit.

michael holcombe

May 30th, 2010
11:55 am

Wake up people. We do not govern. We are governed.

ecurlew

May 30th, 2010
1:05 pm

This is the first column of Jim Wooten’s I’ve ever read, and I thought I had wandered into some twilight zone of murky language, inexplicable “points,” and linguistic misunderstanding.

Examples:

1. “Now if the contributions are being made without donor approval, that’s another matter.”Whaaaat? The donors ARE the contributors; how can they make contributions without their own approval?

2. Reference to admirable “restraint” by a judge in describing a county decision as “not unlawful.” When we speak of restraint in this sort of context, we generally mean making a point in a less forceful way than we could have, not saying the opposite of what we mean, which seems to be how Mr. Wooten is using the term.

3. “Lying eyes.” I know of two ways this term has been widely used: to refer to self-deception (as in the Groucho Marx example); to refer to an attempt to deceive others. I have never, until now, heard it bizarrely used to refer to detecting deception in others.

jm

May 30th, 2010
9:56 pm

I wonder where Mr. Wooten was when W passed that prescription drug bill …
Do 63% of americans want health care reform repealed or just this version repealed. Funny thing, I have a co-worker (who is about as conservative as they come) who changed his tune about healthcare when he developed a pre-existing condition.

DEWSTARPATH

May 31st, 2010
2:57 pm

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May 31st, 2010
4:26 pm

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I wonder if anyone gives a rats a$$ about?