With Jane gone, who’ll we watch?

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

● Gov. Sonny Perdue is absolutely correct in declining to invite the Georgia Association of Educators, a union that represents 43,000 school personnel, to help design Georgia’s proposed reforms in its bid for federal funds under the $4 billion Race to the Top giveaway. The GAE is the state affiliate of the National Education Association union, which vehemently opposes merit pay, school vouchers and other conservative ideas. Its money and endorsements go to Democrats about 90 percent of the time. It’s never endorsed a Republican for president. When the GAE endorses a Republican, that’s a pretty good indicator to primary voters that on education reform, the endorsee is clueless.

● Please, don’t tell President Barack Obama how much former Gov. Roy Barnes is worth. He hates Those People. But wait! It’s OK. He’s a Democrat, a trial lawyer and he doesn’t hold a corporate job. (Both Barnes and Obama made in excess of $5 million last year.)

● Even a goofy amateur terrorist, who the Times Square bomber appears to have been, came close to pulling it off and getting away, despite the no-fly list. Between the die-hards, like those who launched the 9/11 attack on America, and the impressionable goofballs who find sudden purpose to their aimless and meaningless lives in the exhortations of extremists, there’s real terrorism danger on the home front. U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) is on to something: He proposes legislation to strip citizenship from American citizens who join foreign terrorist organizations, allowing them to be tried by military tribunals.

● Sure the federal deficit will be less this year. The Bush tax cuts are expiring. Pay now or pay more later. The Associated Press attributes the projected drop in this year’s deficit to $1.56 trillion from $1.786 trillion, to a stronger economy and lower “emergency spending needed to stabilize the financial system and invigorate the recovery.” Assuming, of course, that federal spending did “invigorate the recovery.” The national unemployment rate in March was 9.7 percent. Where are the jobs?

● Frightening Monday headline: “Adult activity fees likely will increase.” But just in Roswell.

● The future is now: Greece, Spain and Portugal. Soon: the USA. Too much public debt. Too many politicians creating entitlements and jobs, and thus buying political support, with the next generation’s money.

● Georgia may be “sold” on the sales tax, but voters should be awfully careful in choosing which ones to approve, since there is a limit to their tolerance. After running up the sales tax pennies, the next step is to expand the base of taxables. Next up: A sales tax on services. As more people drop off the income tax rolls, a tax on consumption is desirable. But an expanded sales tax should, absolutely, be coupled with repeal of the state income tax. Tax consumption, not work. You get what tax policies favor.

● Why is it a surprise that the census counts prisoners where they are rather than where they permanently reside? We do the same for illegals.

● Remember the television commercial originally from the ’60s that was resurrected in the ’90s? The girl, helping mommy in the kitchen, declares: “It’s Shake ’n Bake and I helped.” As I read the post-mortem encomiums on the General Assembly, Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed gets the credit for doing the shaking and the baking on the statewide transportation bill. But Sonny helped.

● Dang it. I just knew that if a whole week went by without a Jane sighting reported in Atlanta, she’d be gone. And she is. Jane Fonda’s moving to L.A., leaving metro Atlanta with nobody Really Big to star-gaze. No Jane, but we’ll always have The Loft.

68 comments Add your comment

joan

May 6th, 2010
7:21 pm

Jane belongs in California with all the other nuts.

Typical

May 6th, 2010
7:26 pm

Que all the bed wetting liberals in three, two…

Rafe Hollister

May 6th, 2010
7:55 pm

All the Blame America First, intellectual, Obama loving, DOD hating, Eurocentric, enviromental wackos in Atlanta are mourning the departure of their pin-up girl. Good Riddance to the Traitor.

Rafe Hollister

May 6th, 2010
8:00 pm

Jane, please take the Vagina Monologues with you as you exit. Your artsy/fartsy fans can afford to travel to LA to mingle with the glamorous and drink their wine and eat their brie.

James Wright

May 6th, 2010
8:07 pm

Who Cares what Hanoi Jane does??? Ask John McCain and other vets if they care care!!! Who cares about Larry Kings problems. Kate(If she cares so much about her kids) … why doesn;t she stay home with them!!!Jesse Janes,Paris,and all all the other trashy people you media people think we care about…. why can you not write and tell about all the good people out here… Sean and Leigh Anne Tuohy, bill gates and his wife give lots of their money away and what are you doing for the good of others,,or our country???

David

May 6th, 2010
8:25 pm

WE still have Sir Elton John!

Drew

May 6th, 2010
8:38 pm

Jim, do you even know what a union is? GAE certainly is not one, as it has absolutely no collective bargaining power. At best, GAE is a professional lobbying association that can lobby on the behalf of teachers, but cannot put any substantive bite behind their bark. What other than the useless IE2 program has Sonny done in the name of education reform except slash funding and furlough teachers. You’d better believe that if we were a union state, we wouldn’t get eaten alive year after year.

midtownguy

May 6th, 2010
9:00 pm

We love Elton in Midtown (does that surprise anyone). Elton was gay before gay was cool.

midtownguy

May 6th, 2010
9:13 pm

And what about all this “selective christian forgiveness”? Seems everyone can be forgiven (including George W. Bush’s days as a drunkard) except Jane Fonda, regardless of how many times she apologizes. Happy trails to you, Jane. Georgia is a lesser place without you.

jconservative

May 6th, 2010
9:55 pm

“The future is now: Greece, Spain and Portugal…”

Jim you left out Ireland and Italy. It is a real horse race between Ireland, Italy, Portugal and Spain for second place behind Greece.

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“Why is it a surprise that the census counts prisoners where they are rather than where they permanently reside?”

Maybe because most prisoners “permanently reside” in the prison. Just guessing.

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To what part of Lower Alabama is Jane moving? If the Gulf Shores area maybe I will run into her at Doc’s Seafood – best gumbo on the Gulf Coast.

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midtownguy at 9:13 pm – “And what about all this “selective christian forgiveness”?”

It seems to me to be a particularly southern thing – asking and expecting God to forgive but being unwilling to do so oneself.
I believe it goes back to the southern tradition of judging others
instead of letting the Almighty do the judging. Just saying.

Mid-South Philosopher

May 6th, 2010
10:29 pm

Good evening, Jim,

Yes, that’s right, keep those mean, ugly, nasty, teachers out of mix when trying to develop a “Race to the Top” strategy! The national government (the late Teddy Kennedy and the “lost in Alabama” Georgie W. Bush leading the way) was so successful in achieving all the goals of No Child Left Behind; No Teacher Left With One!

Looking at all these currently, proposed cuts in the public school budgets (e.g., reducing the number of days in the school year, raising the pupil/teacher ratio to the max, increasing the number of furlough days, etc.), first thing you know, “parents” (I guess you can call them that) are going to have to find some new babysitters! Wonder what the cost of those will be?

Yes, bring on the private school vouchers, educate the elite 30% and to Hades with the rest. By the time the Socialists or the Corporatist (whichever side wins out) are done with us it is not going to make a difference anyway. We are all still going to need that large, economy-sized, jar of Vaseline.

Peter

May 6th, 2010
10:33 pm

Much to do about nothing in this baloney……. Jim avoiding issues….Jane Fonda ?

Michael H. Smith

May 6th, 2010
10:36 pm

Obama is self-loathing? I never knew that, Mr. Wooten.

jconservative

May 6th, 2010
9:55 pm

It seems to me to be a particularly southern thing – asking and expecting God to forgive but being unwilling to do so oneself.
I believe it goes back to the southern tradition of judging others
instead of letting the Almighty do the judging. Just saying.

Hmm… appears an assumed “southern thing” has become a rather pandemic tradition.

outskirts

May 6th, 2010
11:28 pm

“Why is it a surprise that the census counts prisoners where they are rather than where they permanently reside?” If a prisoner is doing over 10 years in prison isn’t that pretty much where where they permanently reside?

Not on my watch

May 7th, 2010
5:26 am

You mean to tell me I’ve been teaching here 7 years and I belong to a union?!?!? Could’ve fooled me!

BTW, would you include the KKK, other white supremacist groups, militias, and other sundry groups as terrorists? If they lose their citizenship, where will we send them? Greece?

Joel Edge

May 7th, 2010
6:08 am

Good riddance, Hanoi Jane.
Someone put it best. The part that worked well on the Times Square bomb attempt was the Department of Alert T-shirt Vendors. The rest of the plan: just hope their bombs don’t work.

Churchill's MOM

May 7th, 2010
6:29 am

Jim when are you going to get after that BIG SPRNDING, BIG GOVERNMENT,PROAMNESTY LIBERAL Johnny Isakson. His vote for TARP & his $34 Billion housing BAILOUT have cost him my vote.

bmoney

May 7th, 2010
6:51 am

Jim,

One of the reasons that GA didn’t win in the first round of Race to the Top was the state’s failure to involve in GA’s efforts. Typically, if you want to win someone’s support for something, you try to negotiate with then. In this case if GA wants to win Race to the Top, the state will have to involve the teachers in the process. Those are the rules as laid out by the administration.

BitterEXdemocrackkk

May 7th, 2010
7:01 am

Yes teachers you DO belong to the biggest UNION in Amurica. dont forget it when you lose your job!

jt

May 7th, 2010
7:26 am

Churchill’s MOM

May 7th, 2010
6:29 am

“Jim when are you going to get after that BIG SPRNDING, BIG GOVERNMENT,PROAMNESTY LIBERAL Johnny Isakson.?”

He can’t.

He has a R behind his name. Pay no attention to his record. Jim will vote who he is told to vote for. Just like every other partison-bot. Isackson will go back in without any serious competition.

So sad.

MiltonMan

May 7th, 2010
7:52 am

Teachers amaze me. I always hear they teach because of the kids. I remember always hearing in college “If you can’t, then teach”

They complain about low pay, no true union in Georgia, long hours, etc. The last time I checked no one forced them to become teachers. You want a union, go teach in a unionized state like New Jersey & join the teacher’s union that wanted the governor murdered in the state.

Now the GAE is sending a letter to the Secretary of Education asking for monies not be awarded to the state???

s

May 7th, 2010
8:22 am

Hanoi Jane should have been stripped of her citizenship and sent to Hanoi over thirty years ago!

Morrus

May 7th, 2010
8:24 am

Curiously, in a supposed anti-incumbent year, most of the departing are not retiring but seeking higher office. We may recycle more than we replace. The bad news is that a frustrating 114 seats still have but one contestant. Two of them aren’t even incumbents, meaning they will affect state policy without being vetted by voters. And I have to think that we’d be better off if many had run instead for the Legislature — and cut down on the number running unopposed. Georgia’s problems are numerous. They aren’t going away. There’s too much stale thinking at the Capitol, on both sides of the aisle. New voices would be welcome.

Will

May 7th, 2010
8:28 am

Mr. Wooten:

Read your “Thinking Republican” piece this morning.

Your column represents what is wrong with republican newspaper writers who believe who confuse, “Thinking Republican” with “Thinking Right”.

Oh, I know, republican newspaper writers protest they are not party partisans (Republican Governor Perdue is right to exclude 40,000+ teachers from the process because the 40,000+ teachers are represented by an organization that usually does not support republicans is hardly an example of independent thought) but are independent thinkers. In reality, the distance between the party line and republican writers is roughly the equal distance from the belly of a pregnant ant and God’s green earth!

What’s that you say, democrat newspaper writers do the same thing? Of course they do but is the standard you wish to adhere to no higher than democrat newspaper writers?

Saul Good

May 7th, 2010
8:43 am

Hey Jim and all the other talibangelicals that supported EVERYTHING that Bush did when he was busy ruining our nation… how many JOBS did the Bush tax cuts create? (Besuase THAT was their purpose and guess what? He left office with higher unemployment then when he entered)… okay…now you can go back to calling yourself teabaggers and libertarians in your rightwing post bush world)…

Dr. Stan-(the black one)

May 7th, 2010
9:22 am

● The future is now: Greece, Spain and Portugal. Soon: the USA. Too much public debt. Too many politicians creating entitlements and jobs, and thus buying political support, with the next generation’s money.

Welcome to the New World Order and creative destruction! To create the new, the old must be destroyed. In the early 1970s, it was apparent that the masses of Negroes weren’t prepared for the consequences of mandatory integration, the new. The foundation for Negro survival had been dug deep by early arriving Africans/slaves and it had to be destroyed in the interest of creating the new African American via integration. In a nutshell, black educated leaders betrayed the trust of early arrivals that had come to these shores in chains. Consequently their offspring were betrayed into the hands of powerfull secret societies for money, fame, plush jobs especially in the media, and social status etc. The Bilderberg Group, The Trilateral Commission, The council on Foreign Relations etc, assisted by their black and white educated minions created the new hopeless, Godless African Americans presently existing in the United States.

Secret societies turn their attention exclusively toward Europeans and the USA… A system of creative destruction would be used paralleling the one used on Negroes to create African Americans. Instead of mandatory integration being used as an albatross, legal and illegal immigration would be used to destroy the foundation for survival of Americans that had been dug deep by the founding fathers. Educated politicians betrayed the trust of the first arrivals to these shores seeking freedom from tyranny and their offspring for mere pennies given the big picture. Consequently, Americans who once cherished and guarded freedom as if it were the breath of life, like African Americans, spend the vast majority of their time in pursuit of fiat money, sensuality, etc.

Have no fear. The rumbling of the Tea Party felt throughout the nation has the capacity to wake up Americans and provide hope for the hopeless. If I were a betting man, I’d put my money on the observation of Bob Chapman, the International Forecaster. He said we know who they are. And they won’t get away with it. The last time they tried it, they failed. And they will fail this time.

Hillbilly Deluxe

May 7th, 2010
9:23 am

Why is it a surprise that the census counts prisoners where they are rather than where they permanently reside?

It’s been that way since at least 1900; it’s nothing new that prisoners are counted at the prison they are in.

Your Name Here

May 7th, 2010
9:44 am

The Trilatteral Commission! Wow, I haven’t heard about that one in over a decade! Glad to know it’s still around messing up the lives of so many innocent people.

C. Nunn

May 7th, 2010
9:48 am

j. Wooten’s column is not a reasoned op-ed. It is obvious that he is incapable of writing anything but bullet points of (as Spiro Agnew said) nattering nabobs of negativity and name-calling. I don’t read because it is a waste of time. I prefer well written op-eds where thought, judgment and vision are involved and you might learn something. But, the headlines of Good Bye Jane caught my eye. Every Georgian should thank Jane Fonda for the extensive and considerable time, money and effort for many years that she has invested in GCAPP seeking awareness of teen pregnancy prevention programs. She has helped tremendously in taking on a serious problem in Georgia and stuck with it to make an appreciable difference. Check the statistics. We will miss all of Jane Fonda’s hard work on behalf of adolescents and the State of Georgia, and I, among thousands of others, appreciate all she has done. She didn’t just write a check. She put her heart and soul into one of our most serious problems for many years. Her civic engagement has been palpable and positive. Wooten’s civic engagement has been naught and negative. CNunn

Saul Good

May 7th, 2010
10:24 am

Dr Stan…. afraid much?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

May 7th, 2010
10:30 am

Good morning all. One assumes that lobbyists, such as GAE, should never have a direct role in drafting government petitions or legislation. One’s assumptions are at variance with the real world when so much money is on the table.

Democrats are always the party of the fat-cat. We are aware of the oft-repeated leftist mantra to the contrary, but we are not fooled.

Failed Islamist-terrorist efforts date to Richard Reid, the shoe-bomber. Innovation often leads to failure, both in noble and ignoble efforts.

I respectfully dissent from the well-intentioned effort of Sen. Lieberman. The Constitution defines only one crime – that is the appropriate solution for disloyal Americans. Merely stripping citizenship is the easy way out. A better course would be for Congress to conduct trials for Treason – nothing in the Constitution prevents that, and the similarly defined “Impeachment” protocol provides a model.

“Raising taxes,” as a means of stimulating job growth, has no historical precedent anywhere in the world, and would have to rely on a perverse economic theory. However, “embracing perverse economic theory” is a well-established precedent for the current administration.

Abolish the state income tax; raise the sales tax, and eliminate all exemptions for non-service sales. Strong historical precedent everywhere in the world, solid economic theory. Never happen here.

Public mea culpa – I think I misunderestimated Mayor Reid. Recruit him as a Republican.

Dr. Stan-(the black one)

May 7th, 2010
10:55 am

SG,

I have a healthy fear and trust in God Almighty… Only the Godless have unreasonable fear; and that’s because they know their time is not long.

Am I right about it?

retiredds

May 7th, 2010
11:00 am

Yes, Jim, the Bush tax cuts are going away because the Bushies didn’t have the guts to end them on their watch. They left that to a new administration: just like two wars, $5+ trillion added to the debt, the “my way or no way” mentality in politics, etc.

And yes, Jim, where are the jobs. I post this below because you evidently don’t read real statistics before you write your columns:

“With revisions on Friday, April was the fourth consecutive month that the economy added workers (a revised 230,000 jobs were added in March, instead of 162,000), the job market still has a long way to go before it can be counted on to provide a base for a sustained economic recovery. More than 15.3 million were unemployed last month.

Besides March, February was revised from a loss of 14,000 jobs to a gain of 39,000. With a January gain of 14,000, the cumulative increase came to 573,000 jobs in four months.

Private employers added 231,000 jobs in April. The federal government also added, including 66,000 temporary positions for the 2010 Census.

Despite the increase in jobs, the unemployment rate rose, mostly because the government said 195,000 workers re-entered the labor force after giving up on job hunting during the recession. When jobless people do not look for work, they are not counted in the official unemployment rate.”

And take notice, Jim, private employers are adding. For you and your conservative “do nothings” this is not good news. You won’t have anything to gripe about and it is becoming more apparent every day that you and your right wing friends have no solutions, only complaints. So I suggest you all go to your local bar and have a big cry.

Dr. Stan-(the black one)

May 7th, 2010
11:51 am

When God Almighty introduces Christians to the spiritual world, they no longer have any excuses. Christians experience it with their minds, souls, spirits, and bodies. And it changes your life forever. But here is the scary part. God sends you out to convert a world filled with dead, blind, deaf, dumb, and evil people.

We know them when we see or hear them because prior to the introduction, we were once that way ourselves. And now there is a great gulf of duality between the two, like life and death, like good and evil.

The living knows when a person is dead. But the dead knows nothing.

Saul Good

May 7th, 2010
11:55 am

No Dr S… you’re in fact WAY off. Just remember… it’s religion which is the “root” of all evil in this world. all the cults that were “created” by other weak “men”… those who fear death and the unknown. The one common belief all the cults share is that you will get to live FOREVER surrounded ONLY by other cult members who were brainwashed by the same cult leaders. Those who are not afraid of death know that it is “blank”…just like before you were born…and to us “realists”…there could be nothing more peaceful then “blank”… anyway…

Fear and those who are “afraid” are the very ones who cling to their own brand of cult and continue to brainwash their children to believe in fiction as if it was the truth. Same one’s who these days create 100% phony lies about things like birth certificates…taking away gun rights (when there’s never even been anything on the table), raising taxes (when in fact they’ve gone DOWN for 98% of all americans), and who force their fears and cult-bred beliefs onto others by getting involved in their lives (as in gay marriage) when at the same time calling for “less” government intrusion into people’s lives.

enjoy your day! Just remember…. there are those out there who want to kill us…. OMG!!!! BOO!

scrappy

May 7th, 2010
12:27 pm

How do you expect Teachers to be a part of the solution if you don’t even invite them to the table to discuss?

Merit pay for Teachers is great, in theory. But, until someone comes up with a fair and balanced way of actually doing this, merit based pay will fail teachers and students.

Dr. Stan-(the black one)

May 7th, 2010
12:45 pm

I understand your sentiments. Before God Almighty introduced us to life over death, good over evil, right and wrong, each of us had seven times the confusing spirits that influence you…

I would address each of your accounts but it will only add to your confusion. We’ve been there. We were once like you.

In the final analysis, is not the Christian’s battle. It is the Lords’; and it’s impossible to kill God almighty…OMG!!!! BOO!

RetiredSoldier

May 7th, 2010
12:50 pm

retiredds-

You never cease to amaze me. Bush’s my way or the highway? Are you kidding me? Have you observed the Obama/Reid/Pelosi gang of ” my way or the highway’? They make Bush look like a piker. We still have 2 wars and Obama is outspending Bush. You really have something to brag about.

Dr. Stan-(the black one)

May 7th, 2010
1:20 pm

As we speak, my man Gerald Celente, publisher of the Trends Journal and is a business consultant and author who makes predictions about the global financial markets and other events is setting the record straight on infowars.com.

My main man Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster is up next.

Valeria Palmer

May 7th, 2010
2:00 pm

Why would we want to strip Faisal Shahzad and other Muslim fifth column members of their citizenship? Instead, we should prosecute them for treason and hang them. All these other charges, especially against Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan, just obscure the issue that the underlying crime is treason – a far more grave crime than even murder.

RetiredSoldier

May 7th, 2010
2:27 pm

I like it Valeria. It should be done in public and televised.

retiredds

May 7th, 2010
3:23 pm

Retired Soldier, I wonder when the two wars got started? Did they just materialize when Obama took over. I don’t want to let any secrets out but I think he inherited them. And, he just can’t bring all the boys home and say, o.k. it’s over now that I’m president. I wish he would but that is a fantasy not reality.

#2, yes he has run large deficits, and I think I have said to you in the past that I don’t like them any more than you do. But, the Bushies proposed deficits (via large tax cuts) even when the economy got rolling again and the Congress just went along, as they have for 50 years.

This country has been living with deficit spending for a long time ($10+ trillion the day Obama took office). Actually one side of me is happy to see the large deficits because they can’t be ignored any more. It is the elephant in the room that can no longer be ignored. But it is Americans who have to decide if they want to run balanced budgets or (God forbid) surpluses. To do that there needs to be a complete turnover of the Congress, and you and I know that won’t happen.

Chris Broe

May 7th, 2010
3:25 pm

Why didn’t Hanoi Jane take her sister, Jihad Jane, with her?

I have to respect poor Henry Fonda. He must have been so ashamed of his daughter. He must have regretted all the coddling he did to her. Just like Cynthia Tucker and Bookman must regret all the coddling they’ve been doing to their blog trolls who squat on the comment board as if they were in a chat room for hapless slugs.

Lets pass the 3 comments per day limit rule for AJC blogs.

just kiddin…..

RetiredSoldier

May 7th, 2010
3:45 pm

Obama did say he would pull the troops from Iraq during the campaign and after he was elected decided he would adopt the “Bush Plan”. In Afgan, he has raised the stakes, guess he likes these wars after all.

Deficits, you give Obama a pass. Absolutely Bush ran a lousy ship as far as budgets are concerned. Obama is like I said making Bush look like a piker. Until we have a president that truly believes in a balanced budget along w/ a Congress that is like minded we will continue down the path of financial ruin.

BTW, the unempoyment rate went up 2 tenths of one per cent and Obama is hailing what a great job he is doing. Unreal.

RetiredSoldier

May 7th, 2010
3:47 pm

If I depended on my typing skills I would be part of the 9.9%. I meant unemployment.

retiredds

May 7th, 2010
3:58 pm

RS, I do not give Obama a pass. I would very much like the deficit to be much, much lower. But given the situation that he came in with, there was no way to go in any other direction. Let’s face it, deficits, will not come down without some form of tax increases combined with spending cuts. The math does not work any other way. Voodo or supply-side economics won’t cut it as the outstanding debt is too large. It can’t be hid under the rug or placed in “off balance sheet” accounts.

Quite frankly I have what I consider to be a solution (think fixed-rate mortgage) but no one would buy into it because we have become a nation of “Mr. Somebody Else” is responsible for all “my” ills.

retiredds

May 7th, 2010
3:59 pm

Enter your comments here

retiredds

May 7th, 2010
4:00 pm

I don’t know how the last comment @ 3:59 got there. Must be magic.

oldtimer

May 7th, 2010
4:15 pm

Retired Soldier..Your comments are right on! We need to pay attention to what is going on in Europe and see ourselves…..I think it will happen here if we do not get a handle on spening.

RetiredSoldier

May 7th, 2010
4:19 pm

I like your idea of paying off our debt like a mortgage. We must do something or we will join Greece in the not to distant future. Spending cuts, absolutely. Increase taxes, no. I suggest we implement the Fair Tax so our government doesn’t pick winners and losers in the tax code.

So many people, mistakenly in my opinion, think the Fair Tax won’t work. My answer is, can we be any worse off than we are now?