Vote out Left, repeal health law

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

● With health care, the Left has taken this country where the center-right majority ain’t. There will be a price to pay on Election Day in November and in 2012. Then repeal.

● With or without Georgia Attorney General Thurbert Baker, a candidate for governor, the state should join states in challenging the just-passed mandate that people be forced to buy health insurance. The feds’ constitutional authority to regulate interstate commerce does not extend to forcing individuals to buy specific products, state AGs contend.

● Yes, ethics reform in Georgia is vital. But it does feel kind of silly to be freaking out over who buys a politician lunch when the dishonesties inherent in the just-passed health care bill — the phony numbers, the tricks to hide taxes, the double-counting of higher Medicare taxes — are so profoundly dishonest that they’d be prosecutable in the private sector. There’s such a despicable double standard between what politicians do and what they rail about and prosecute in the private sector.

● When gender trumps, you get the results that we saw in the Georgia State Senate’s odd-duck pairing of State Sens. Renee Unterman (R-Buford) and Nan Orrock (D-Atlanta) to table SB 407, which would allow Georgians to cross state lines to buy health insurance — an essential element of any conservative health care reform. By shopping across state lines, consumers can buy the coverage they want, rather than the coverage mandated by politicians. House and Senate women argued that would be detrimental to their gender.

● Good grief, man, don’t be telling people that the 1.45 percent tax on hospital revenues that Gov. Sonny Perdue has proposed and that the Legislature is about to accept won’t be added to the pills and bills of paying patients. The tax — politicians call it a fee — “has to come through the efficiencies of the hospitals” and “cannot be passed on to patients,” said the good conservative Republican, state Rep. Jimmy Pruett of Eastman. Yes and those hidden $20 billion in taxes on medical equipment contained in the Washington health care bill are gonna be eaten by goblins before they get passed through to the rest of us.

● The Market Bulletin published by the state Department of Agriculture for 93 years is a Georgia treasure. Though its content does occasionally promote the boss, it’s largely nonpolitical. Cost to produce is $774,000 annually. It goes twice monthly to 130,000 people who request it. Cost-cutting conservatives are proposing a $10 subscription charge, which is expected to cut circulation in half. I’d pay the $10 and can’t in good conscience argue against it. It’s a legitimate user fee. But I’d rather pay $20 and have it sent free to those whose income is less than $35,000 per year.

● James Kau, a real estate professor at UGA’s Terry College of Business, makes a compelling argument in last Sunday’s AJC that government bailouts “reward negative outcomes and mediocre choices” in home buying and lead to “further mortgage defaults and cries for more bailouts. Bailouts are nothing more than a politically-based catastrophic solution to a market correction.” Man, we’ve got to make this guy’s teachings mandatory. He’s a jewel.

● Mandate, too, that students and aspiring politicians read the AJC guest commentary Thursday by another distinguished professor, Scott Beaulier of Mercer University in Macon, entitled “Taxing and spending is going from bad to worse.” He makes marvelous points: Businesses and therefore jobs flee high-tax states for lower ones. Politicians should make “significant cuts in the size and scope of government in Georgia.” And, “spending rules [should be] adopted to prevent future crises from developing.” Now if we can just get some of those professors in the social sciences schooled by this Distinguished Professor of Capitalism.

● AJC.com headline: “Can schools stop obesity?” Sure, in the less than 10 percent of a child’s day that they have, schools can stop obesity, be a daddy, teach social skills, stop bullying, build self-esteem and train them to be little greenies and peaceniks. And, oh yes, teach them to read and write.

291 comments Add your comment

Justin Kase

March 25th, 2010
7:59 pm

This plate you’re serving has too much on it for this weekend. Do you have a senior’s menu?

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY

March 25th, 2010
8:06 pm

Newsflash*** There was an election Nov 5, 2008. In a LANDSLIDE Americans voted for Barack Hussein Obama and democrat supermajorities in Congress. Obama and the democrats CAMPAIGNED on health care reform. They are doing what the MAJORITY voted for. You and your party are SORE LOSERS and we will have to thump you EVEN HARDER in the next election for behaving like spoiled children. How dare YOU cause the collapse of the US economy, turn huge surpluses Clinton left you into massive deficits, leave Obama 2 wars and a plate full of sh*t and then have the NERVE to criticize ANYTHING he does. After all these years of FAILED republican policies, America would have voted for Satan before another republican. We will be there in November, just as we were in 2008, to support OUR PResident…Barack Hussein Obama. YES WE CAN!!!!! YES WE CAN !!!!!! YES WE DID !!!!! YES WE WILL DO ALOT MORE !!!!!!!!!!!!
FIRED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! READY TO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY

March 25th, 2010
8:08 pm

Unlike republicans and Bush, Obama will keep his promises. FIRED UP !!!!!!READY TO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Justin Kase

March 25th, 2010
8:09 pm

Who left the door open?

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY

March 25th, 2010
8:11 pm

Remember that “contract with America” ? What happened to those term limits you all were so for? That’s right, another lie. How about the state flag Sonny promised the KKK Georgians he would let them vote on? That’s right another lie. How about Bush saying he would not be “nation building” or policing the world? That’s right another lie? How about republicans claiming death panels for granny? That’s right another lie. I could go on for page after page. FIRED UP!!!!!! READY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

StJ

March 25th, 2010
8:12 pm

“America would have voted for Satan before another republican.”

You’re exactly right on that one.

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY

March 25th, 2010
8:13 pm

You said Bush “kept us safe” Did you forget about a little thing called 911? That’s right another lie.
Rudy Guilianni the freaking republican MAYOR of NYC said “We were not attacked under Bush”
Even he forgot about 911? That’s right another lie
FIRED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! READY TO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY

March 25th, 2010
8:16 pm

Remember Max Cleland? Served our nation, lost his limbs? Seems draft dodging Chambliss aligned him with Osama bin Laden in his commercials. That’s right another lie.
How low of a draft dodging Cheney, Bush and Chambliss to attack the patriotism of war heroes to get elected. That’s right another lie.
FIRED UP!!!!!! READY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY

March 25th, 2010
8:17 pm

By the way….that “hopey changey ” is working out good for us, Wooten! Can’t wait for the tax cuts Bush gave you to EXPIRE !
FIRED UP !!!!!!!!!!!!! READY TO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Justin Kase

March 25th, 2010
8:18 pm

RAS

Who exactly are you debating with?

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY

March 25th, 2010
8:19 pm

Can the democrats expand their majorities in November?
YES WE CAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES WE CAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You thought you had Obama didn’t you Wooten? Your boys thought it would be his
Waterloo” Thought you could “break him” Too bad, keep crying in your beer.
FIRED UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! READY TO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY

March 25th, 2010
8:21 pm

There is no debate. I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed party ! Just letting the wingnuts know we will be out IN FORCE the next election to support OUR PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ! YES WE WILL!!!!!

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY

March 25th, 2010
8:25 pm

Hey Wooten,

How much of that deficit belongs to Reagan and Bushes? You guessed it 90 %. Those 3 Presidents gave us 90 % of the trillions in debt due to their cut taxes for wealthy and increase spending while playing war games around the world. Your failed ideology of trickling on America has been disproven by REALITY. The world economy has buckled under republican policies of deregulation and wreckless fiscal policy. President Obama WIL finish cleaning up YOUR MESSES, just like Clinton did….even with your party “leaders” behaving like spoiled children. That’s Ok. America will spank them and send them to bed w/o supper come November. YES WE CAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!YES WE WILL!!!!!!!!!!

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 25th, 2010
8:26 pm

Good evening all. I agree with our host’s political analysis of the likely consequences of Obamacare, and with the propriety of challenging the Constitutionality of the law. No reason to gild the lily.

I define “ethics reform” as reining in nonmilitary spending.

One gets the impression, for this and other reasons, that Ms. Unterman is not the sharpest tack in the drawer. Similarly, Ms. Orrock is a democrat.

RINOs never refer to their tax increases by that name. Not that the leftists are honest about their destructive legislation. The entire difference is one of scale.

I admit my lack of acquaintance with the Market Bulletin. Why is it not online? Cut the mailing expense, which is presumably significant.

Kau’s well written explanation develops an ancient economics principle – if you want more of something, compel taxpayers to subsidize it. Beaulier sounds like my sort of guy too.

How can a school stop obesity? Narrow entrances.

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY

March 25th, 2010
8:26 pm

Imagine how much more good things Obama could do for America without the party of hell no in the way.
YES WE CAN !!!!!

Justin Kase

March 25th, 2010
8:28 pm

RAS

Don’t doubt your sincerity, but easy on the sauce. Your beginning to rant.

John Boehner

March 25th, 2010
8:28 pm

Can you say Jim Wooten and I aren’t seething with rage at a brotha in the Whitehouse outperforming every President in the last century? HELL NO YOU CAN’T !!!

your worst nightmare

March 25th, 2010
8:30 pm

An even larger mobilization of grass roots supporters organized by “the community organizer” ?
aka President Obama. :)

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 25th, 2010
8:31 pm

Hey Sorry, read any good bumper stickers lately?

former republican

March 25th, 2010
8:32 pm

After what I have seen since the election of Obama, I could never again vote for that party.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 25th, 2010
8:32 pm

We would agree that the Brotha’s only competition was Jimmy Carter.

freedom lovin georgian

March 25th, 2010
8:34 pm

i dont want no soshulist health inshurance, who needs teeth

disgusted with haters

March 25th, 2010
8:36 pm

Why do people have a problem accepting election results? If you didn’t want health care, you should have voted republican. If you did vote republican, more people voted democrat. Get over it.

Oxymoron

March 25th, 2010
8:37 pm

“Common sense conservatism” Ha ha ha ha ha. Almost as laughable as “compassionate conservatism”

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 25th, 2010
8:40 pm

On behalf of the 10% of the American population now unemployed due to Chauncey’s “stimulus,” thanks a lot.

Oxymoron

March 25th, 2010
8:40 pm

Why has there never been a balanced budget when a republican was in the Whitehouse?
Republicans like to claim they balanced the budget when Clinton was President. Clinton vetoed their tax cuts for wealthy…thus balancing the budget. Republicans keep telling the lie that cutting taxes raises revenues yet they ALWAYS leave a deficit behind.

Oxymoron

March 25th, 2010
8:44 pm

Thank Bush and republicans for the job losses. Two unfunded 2 trillion dollar wars, a medicare partd (450 billion) unfunded combined with deregulation of banks and BINGO…..economy crashes.
We can’t make that mistake again. America has learned a very costly lesson. Don’ believe the lies Wooten and company are peddling. We are still paying the price for their “common sense, compassionate conservatism” If they had have had any more “common sense” or “compassion” we would all be unemployed and our economy would have TOTALLY collapsed, as opposed to just a depression.

Justin Kase

March 25th, 2010
8:48 pm

First of all Independents like me, and I didn’t vote for Obama for my own personal reasons, usually determine the outcome of most elections. Very close on the Dems and Rep in their numbers so it is winning the Independent vote that swings most elections. While I’m for healthcare reform, the “how we are paying for it has me concerned. The last couple of days I have read articles where businesses/companies are thinking of changing their health plans to eliminate prescription drugs for retirees. Since I just retire last year this is of great concern to me.

Bill

March 25th, 2010
9:12 pm

Jim, good to see that you have your usual patisian “stuff” going on. It sure would be good to have someone on your side with a reasoned point-of-view instead of this hate filled “stuff” you like to share. I guess that really is asking too much!! Again, I guess you are a UGA grad (we seem to recognize each other!!).

Regards,

Drifter

March 25th, 2010
9:44 pm

The health care reform will never be repealed and unless Republicans start sounding like rational human beings very soon, they won’t make up much ground in November. Honestly, I haven’t voted for a Democrat in at least 10 years and I’m not likely to in the near future, but I’ll stay at home before I waste a vote on a lunatic.

retiredds

March 25th, 2010
10:10 pm

Jim, how about this one for your weekend free-for-all from Paul Krugman:

David Frum* has been fired by the American Enterprise Institute; one has to assume that this is a response to his outspokenness about the Republican failure on health reform.

In discussing the Frum firing, Bruce Bartlett asserts that AEI has muzzled its health-care experts, because the truth is that they agree with a lot of what Obama is proposing. I find this quite believable; back in 2003 Stuart Butler of the Heritage Foundation, which is supposedly harder-right than AEI, proposed a health care reform consisting of … drumroll … an individual mandate coupled with subsidies to make insurance affordable. In short, Obamacare.

Need I say more. Your Republican party is sinking. Those who shout the loudest seem to be many but generally are the few.

retiredds

March 25th, 2010
10:16 pm

Jim, while you’re at it, will you pony up your own $$$$ to fund Sonny’s fantasy of winning a suit over health care. I have written him to tell him I don’t want ANY, ZERO, of my tax dollars today or in the future to pay for the frivolous litigation (something Repubs accused Dems of doing). He should take the dollars and invest them in GA education instead of frittering (there’s another word that starts with the letter p that should be used here) away our tax dollars.

Evelyn

March 25th, 2010
10:18 pm

Jim, maybe you can explain why Georgia, which has one of the worst uninsured rates in the nation, has never set up a state sponsored high risk pool to help its residents who are deemed “uninsurable” by insurance companies (when every state bordering Georgia has managed to do so) ? Recent calls to action from Georgian politicians and their operatives to form “regional high risk pools” seems to be too little, too late. How many Georgians have died due to its failure to establish high risk pool? How many more will, as Georgia continues to drag its heels, during this lawsuit?

retiredds

March 25th, 2010
10:31 pm

Jim, your Republican friends just can’t seem to get it done regarding ethics reform. The template is TN and MD. Anything less than that is a zero. Sorry the new leadership team gets an F on ethics reform.

jmiles

March 25th, 2010
10:35 pm

I always read and am frequenly angered by your comments about education, but your final paragraph tonight captures the most serious thing wrong with American schools-the many destructive aspects of current American culture. The only institutions that attempt to cure this culture and teach a responsible life are schools. Unfortunately, only the schools are held resonsible for the many failures of society.

retiredds

March 25th, 2010
10:42 pm

Oh, and Jim, I hope you have a good sleep over this one. Stock market at the low in March of 2009 was around 6626. Obama and his financial team have done such a poor job that it closed today at 10,841.21 an increase of 63.6 percent. Must be his economic policies are not working, eh. It won’t be long until the employment picture improves either.

We won't be fooled again

March 25th, 2010
10:48 pm

Most of America has awakened to the failure of republicans and the “conservative” movement.
Welfare for Wall Street,big banks, insurance companies and the rest of the wealthy has produced NOTHING for the American people but misery. They used their tax cuts to invest in China and to sell out America. We should never again give tax cuts to wealthy unless they invest in good jobs for Americans. If not, sock i to them. They have had a fre ride at our expense long enough.

We won't be fooled again

March 25th, 2010
11:01 pm

it and free…typos not stupidity

Ayn Rand was right

March 25th, 2010
11:12 pm

Anyone else wondering if RAS voted for Obama as many times as he/she posted on this blog???

retiredds

March 25th, 2010
11:15 pm

Jim, this just in from one of the major news organizations:

“Republicans, reacting somberly, said they would carry their opposition to the bill into the fall campaign, in an effort to win back majorities in Congress and repeal the measure”.

The somberly reaction to the House of Representative passing health care legislation is in keeping with the Repubs “just say no” and obstruction to this historic bill. But what I like most is that fact that the Repubs will be spending so much energy between now and November on their desire to repeal (the replace part is a fiction they have no intention on doing) the health care legislation. By then the American people (excepting the fringies) will have moved way beyond them (except in their closely held “red” states of the South). The Dems and the President will have passes substantive financial reform and be working on passing a reasonable immigration bill. Also by that time the economic recovery will be more on its way with job creation. The Repubs will remain stuck between here and the last election which they lost handily. Too bad Jim that your team is still on the wrong side of history. Oh, well they had their chances.

Rita

March 25th, 2010
11:20 pm

“With health care, the Left has taken this country where the center-right majority ain’t. There will be a price to pay on Election Day in November and in 2012. Then repeal.”

Let’s do the math for November. Republicans would have to pick up 19 seats in the Senate and over 100 seats in the House to achieve super-majorities. That is not going to happen in the most optimistic of scenarios. If they do not have veto-proof majorities, the repeal bill would have to be signed by (wait for it) President Obama. By 2012, enough Americans will have been receiving benefits that they won’t want to relinquish them. Passage of health care reform was always the Republicans’ worst nightmare because they know their opposition to it will keep them out of power for at least a generation, just like after the passage of Social security and Medicare.

vince neil

March 25th, 2010
11:20 pm

two things….
1. To all the lefties on this post, please name the city, county, state, (province), or country run with the principles you espouse which is not AT BEST an example of mediocrity?????………….. (i hear crickets chirping).
2. You all sound like douchebags who apparently do not have any knowledge of history…..the tide will turn and you will reap the folly of the seeds sown by the lowering of standard set by your bunch of miscreant leaders……..I’m just sayin…..

Dave

March 25th, 2010
11:32 pm

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY -90% of the debt, where did you get that? I’m pretty sure you pull it out of your butt. Obama in one year has created more debt that Bush did in 8 years. Now that’s a fact, if you want to bother to actually look it up. At what point do you guys expect Obama to be responsible for the situation were in? Never I guess, as long as you think “it’s Bushs fault.”

Rita

March 25th, 2010
11:36 pm

So calling strangers “douchebags” is what passes for intellectual discourse on the right. Thank you for clarifying.

vince neil

March 25th, 2010
11:45 pm

i said you sound LIKE a douchebag…I didn’t call anyone a douchebag…..and please answer the question posed…….I have posted that same query on dozens of blogs and have yet to have a cogent answer….

retiredds

March 25th, 2010
11:46 pm

Jim and vince, care to comment on this:

GOP Senator Bob Corker was emphatic on Wednesday that Republicans missed a big opportunity to influence what is perhaps the most ambitious financial reform bill to pass through the Senate since the Great Depression.

Failing to reach a bipartisan deal in committee was “a very large strategic mistake,” the Tennessee senator told reporters after his speech before a U.S. Chamber of Commerce summit in Washington. Declining to offer amendments, and then passing the bill out of committee along party lines, “talks about how dysfunctional, how dysfunctional we have been as a committee and the Senate has been in addressing this issue,” Corker said in reference to financial reform.

When one of your own Republicans calling his own party “dysfunctional” says it all. The train has left the station and the Republicans are still waiting on the platform.

HS Teacher

March 25th, 2010
11:54 pm

I’d love to get the Farmer’s Market Bulletin by email. You can renew by email, but it took me 4 weeks to get it done. Must not check email ofter because I missed 2 issues.

vince neil

March 25th, 2010
11:55 pm

oooh that settles it…we were wrong…..and who said I am a republican anyway…..

concerned georgian

March 26th, 2010
12:09 am

I THINK THE REAL OFFENDERS IN THIS STATE ARE NEWT G. AND SONNY P. WHY DON’T WE IMPEACH SONNY P.? WHY DON’T THEY FOCUS MORE ON THE REAL ISSUES WE HAVE HERE IN GEORGIA LIKE A BANKRUPT STATE THAT IS HAVING TO FIRE SCHOOL TEACHERS AND CLOSE DOWN SCHOOLS. WE DON’T NEED THESE STUPID IDIOTS RUNNING OUR STATE. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO ROUND UP ALL THE PEOPLE IN TOWNS WITH GUNS LIKE IN THE O-KAY CORRAL DAYS TO HAVE A GOOD OLE SHOOT OUT WITH THE DEMS. ARE THESE PEOPLE FROM ANOTHER PLANET OR WHAT? THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES HERE IN GEORGIA THAT NEED IMMED ATTENTION. ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE NOT THINKING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE BUT GETTING BACK AT THE DEMS FOR PASSING A HEALTH PLAN BILL THAT WILL HELP MOST AMERICAN PEOPLE. WHY DON’T YOU ALL WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE HEALTHCARE? YOU ALL HAVE THE BEST INSURANCE THERE IS TO HAVE. FEDERAL EMPLOYEES HAVE EXCELLENT INSURANCE. THIS FIGHT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY, POWER AND COLOR. YOU ALL ARE IGNORANT PEOPLE. I HOPE THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING NOTES OF SUCH BAD BEHAVIOR AND I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL IT’S TIME TO VOTE FOR OUR NEW GOVERNOR. MOST OF US USE TO LIKE SONNY P. BUT, HE HAS REALLY SHOWN HIS TRUE COLORS LATELY.

BitterEXdemocrackkk

March 26th, 2010
5:31 am

Strive to be smarter than the ORIGINAL ‘party’ of SLAVERY wants you to BE !