Get ready for the debt tsunami

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

● Forbes magazine identifies Cleveland as America’s city of greatest misery. The conclusion is based on unemployment, taxes, violent crime, commute times and other factors in cities with a population greater than 245,000. Pray tell why Georgia would spend public money to poach jobs from desperate fellow citizens? A story noting that in the past eight months three Ohio firms, two of them from Cleveland and one from Dayton, moved two headquarters and one production line to metro Atlanta was headlined “Ohio’s pain is Georgia’s gain.” As Americans, we have nothing to gain from the joblessness of our fellow citizens. And besides, with drinking water and traffic congestion problems here, why are we giving tax breaks to entice domestic-employer relocations?

● Georgia must prepare its finances for the coming tsunami of federal debt, which of course will be offloaded to the states. A possible outcome of the D.C. health care debacle, for example, will be that Medicaid and PeachCare eligibility will be expanded; initially, the feds will foot the bulk of the bill. When the debt crisis hits, though, they’ll offload burdens to the states. Georgia, therefore, should strip down uncontrollable entitlements, an example of which is the 6-year-old indigent legal defense system.

● The most visionary fiscal conservative addressing the potentially runaway costs of the Georgia Public Defender Standards Council is state Sen. Preston Smith (R-Rome), who chairs the oversight panel. He’s proposing legislation to give financial responsibility for some cases back to counties, where costs can be better managed. Better do something. This is an entitlement that will eventually be extended to civil as well as criminal cases. Get cost-containment firmly in place now.

● To Georgia Republicans considering a tax hike in this economy: George Herbert Walker Bush.

● How government grows: Legislators are debating whether to issue $10 million in general obligation debt to help fund the College Football Hall of Fame in downtown Atlanta. Proposed cost of the facility has grown from about $50 million to $80 million or more. If the state does this, it has a moral obligation to subsidize every other hall of fame across Georgia. All struggle financially.

● Standing in a room that lacked only a presidential or state seal, facing a “news conference” audience with the look and demeanor of pallbearers, golfer Tiger Woods apologized. It was a surreal moment in American cultural life. We had a golfer reassuring America that he’d misbehave no more — and to large segments of the viewing public, it mattered.

● Option 4 to Atlanta’s crushing public pension obligations would be to insist that the state pay up. Why? That’s just the Atlanta way. Actually, the only long-term solution is to close all city pension plans to new hires and start over with entirely new. Meanwhile, the best interim option is to choose option 3: Require city workers to pay more to support overly generous plans.

● The effort hasn’t drawn much attention, but Gov. Sonny Perdue deserves and is getting credit for an unheralded initiative. Georgia is the only state in the nation concentrating on improving customer service, an effort that’s now being recognized nationally. Guru of the effort is Joe Doyle, a private-sector guy who sold the After Hours Formal Wear chain and volunteered for public service. Good catch for Perdue.

● Gasoline’s approaching $3 per gallon. Consumer confidence is at its lowest point since April of last year. Twenty thousand jobs vanished last month; 150,000 in December. The deficit is $1.56 trillion. Georgia is projected to lose another 35,600 jobs this year. And Democrats in Congress are determined to cram down a health care bill the majority of the country doesn’t want. How utterly out of touch Washington — and specifically this administration — is.

48 comments Add your comment

Saul Good

February 25th, 2010
9:04 pm

$1.56 trillion is debt huh Jim? Just think how well off we’d be if we never spent the TRILLION + DOLLARS that Iraq has cost us so far… the very war you supported. Waste of money…and sadly many Iraqi “innocent” lives… think if we had spent the trillion on health care… or on developing solar energy for the masses?…nah…better to spend it on killing innocent people right Jimmy?

w. dan

February 25th, 2010
11:05 pm

Saul, whatta dufoos you are…solar power for the masses???…liberty for millions!!!…gee, let me think for a microsecond, did we base our country on solar power?…NOT…go back and vote for Rangel you fool

get out much?

February 26th, 2010
12:32 am

I wonder why Mr. Wooten considers the sixth amendment (the one that deals with the right to counsel) an entitlement?

As for those job loses Mr. Wooten mentions, since health care is generally tied to employment, I am betting a few of those people are wondering about health care for their families.

Well, I am glad Joe Doyle was financially secure enough to volunteer for public service. I wonder if Sonny will do the same considering how well his financial situation improved while he was in office.

Chris Broe

February 26th, 2010
1:10 am

The Korean and Japanese women’s figure skating rivalry is intense. Even though the Japanese girl actually came in 2nd (silver medal), she insisted on renaming it the Ginzu Medal.

After the Russian Men’s skater’s similar ploy of renaming the silver as platinum, I think it’s high time the olympics committee took another hard look at allowing any country from the former Double Axles of Evil to participate in the Winter Olympic Games.

Mid-South Philosopher

February 26th, 2010
7:21 am

Good morning, Jim,

How to fix the economic situation is so clear that even an intellect like Sonny Perdue’s ought to be able to see it. When you are spending more money than you are taking in, you have two choices…take in more money or spend less. If you decided to take in more money, you had better “share the burden” and take a little more from everyone. If you decide to spend less, you had better “share the sacrifice” and make sure that everyone has to do with a little less.

As to the Tiger Wood apology…Jim, you said, “..a golfer reassuring America that he’d misbehave no more…” While I wouldn’t bet the farm on either, I guess I would believe him sooner than I would a “lousy politician” promising to “misbehave no more”!

Have a great weekend , my friend.

The Ghost of Harry S. Truman

February 26th, 2010
7:21 am

Well said Jim.

I think a nice in-depth article one day for some media outlet interested in in-depth articles (probably not the AJC) would be the sneaky way that a few lawyers philosophically opposed to capital punishment set up the 2005 Indigent Defense Bill to, in effect, bring every death penalty case to a screeching halt due to the lack of money.

With a stroke of a carefully worded amendment, they transfered those cases – and the money obligations – from the counties to the state, and then promptly began running around the state claiming scheduling conflicts and money shortages.

They could not get what they wanted (abolishment of the death penalty) through legislation, so they did it the old fashioned way – through money.

You Lie!

February 26th, 2010
7:27 am

The republicans tell the American people lies about health care reform (like ‘death panels’) for a year, then trumpet that ‘most Americans don’t want it.

Maybe if American’s hadn’t listened to the lies, they WOULD want it.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/214254/output/print

Tall

February 26th, 2010
8:24 am

Saul Good: What would have happened if we didn’t invade Iraq? Can you offer some perspective?

Will

February 26th, 2010
8:38 am

Jim:

Here is a great example of how some politicians marginalize themselves in policy debates.

Representative Boehmer stated during the Health Care Reform discussion yesterday that President Obama had not incorporated a single idea presented by republicans in the Administration’s 2700 page health care bill.

When pointed out that there were a number of specific republican ideas incorporated in President Obama’s 11 page proposal (citing references and sources to back up this response), Representative Boehmer’s office responded that the Administration probably does not sincerely mean to incorporate these ideas.

Don’t get me wrong – democrats are no different from this type of political nonsense.

I wish all the politicians Boehmer, Westmoreland, Price, Pelosi and Reid would step away and let legislative statesmen like Representative Ryan, Senator Alexander and Senator Byah have the floor on US public policy.

retired early

February 26th, 2010
8:54 am

A right wing pundit described the health care summit best. The Dems think health care should be a RIGHT, the GOP think it is an individual’s responsibility. So……. if you can’t afford health insurance and die…. it’s ok with them. Now, who supposedly holds the moral high ground. Oh yeah, now I remember… those same people who were much more likely to use torture… you remember… the christian right…. now it makes sense.

Morrus

February 26th, 2010
9:15 am

Vote out the incumbents and start over

PinkoNeoConLibertarian

February 26th, 2010
9:25 am

We have a legal defense system for 6-year-old indigents?

WordsRemoticons2

February 26th, 2010
9:29 am

A debt tsunami was projected to occur during the 1992 campaign for the white house. Ross Perot had a chart during a debate where he showed how the national debt would drop under his plan for about ten years and then he showed how it would explode and he pointed to the chart that did indeed appear to outline the profile of a large wave or a tsunami.

Clinton’s own charts showed a similarly timed large wave after his own debt reduction plan. (remember the lockbox for social security? Al gore).

Lockbox. I hope Gore didn’t get elected. Did he? I’m too old to remember.

2B continued. Gotta go help pa.

samuel

February 26th, 2010
9:35 am

Jim, the debt tsunami started with your hero Ronald Reagan. In fact, under the last 3 Republican presidents, the national debt has outgrown GDP by $2.1 trillion ($9.6 trillion growth in national debt vs. $7.5 trillion growth in GDP). Under Reagan, national debt grew by 190% (it tripled) and under Bush 43, it grew by 107% (it more than doubled). As I have said too many times before, Obama didn’t invent deficit spending. Jim, I would direct you to the website of the Office of Management and Budget, www. omb.gov. Then click on “Historical Tables”. You were once a reporter, right Jim? You need to do your research.

samuel

February 26th, 2010
9:38 am

JIm, that website is…www.omb.gov.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

February 26th, 2010
9:43 am

Good morning all. Cleveland is my favorite city among those I have never visited. They have the best radio station in the country, WCLV, available online. (The great virtue of WCLV is that they play great listenable classical music from 5 AM until 9 AM, and from 3 PM until 7 PM, rush hour, when it is most needed.) The city has one of the best orchestras in the country. I appreciate what I perceive is primarily a gritty, hard-working populace. I always imagined Cleveland as much like nearby Pittsburgh, a neat town I have visited a few times. I cannot imagine how Forbes ranked Cleveland as worse than Detroit, another city I have never visited.

I have a great idea to streamline the ancillary costs of the over-grown judicial system – abolish all victimless crimes (e.g., drugs possession and sales, prostitution) and thought-crimes and traffic offenses. Pare down the prosecutors’s offices, so they have only enough personnel to prosecute crimes with a measurable injury. As to the Public Defender’s office, set a max budget of $5,000 per defense, give each alleged criminal a voucher, and let them buy the best representation they can get.

To Georgia Republicans considering voting for a stimulus to housing: we’re watching, and we know what caused the last bubble.

I propose the world’s smallest hall of fame, one for politicians who responsibly administered disbursement of taxpayer monies. Bourke Hickenlooper is the only candidate I can think of.

Dr Sowell published a great essay this week on the Tiger apology; I don’t want to hear another public apology for a private indiscretion. It’s all about the endorsements.

The private sector has abolished defined benefit plans. Why are the overlords so much dimmer than those who manage for efficiency?

Ok, I’ll say a good word for the DMV. They actually do get people processed in less than 30 minutes. That does not mean they don’t have some martinets who maladminister the rules, but on the whole I regard them well.

With a few more months of experience, we may proclaim Jimmy Carter the second worst president in history.

WordsRemoticons2

February 26th, 2010
9:50 am

Wrong, sam I am, the website is http://www.OMG.guv. I think thigns appear worse than they are. The fact that Obama talked reality and the GOP talked reality and the American peoples heard reality is new.

Frankness. Openess. What’s changed between that picture yesterday of Obama talking to the gathering, and a similar picture of Bush talking to any gathering for 8 years. Can you hope to identify the five changes?

One, no mention of a mushroom cloud. Two, no mention of Saddam Hussein meeting at Rick’s Cafe in Casablance with Osama F’n Bil Laden himself. Three) No mispronounced words. Four) no total embarrassing events that made you embarrassed to be an americans. Five). no totally embarrassing events that made you embarrassed to be a human being.

It think it revealed a country in the healing, reconciliation process. The picture serves as a new icon to bipartisanship.

The bill is dead, but at least nobody got caned, and Aaron Burr didn’t shoot anybody, and Cheney didn’t threaten another 911.

I feel better about the USA..

Jess

February 26th, 2010
10:42 am

Saul,

War in Iraq has cost $687 billion thus far, not $1 trillion plus.

Fulton

February 26th, 2010
11:00 am

Wooten believes the 6th Amendment should only be made to the rich. Figures.

He also never talks about the funding of Sonny’s Go Fish program at the expense of education. Really he hasn’t said much of anything about the Georgia Budget, which is right here under his nose. Don’t recall anything about deficits until a democrat became president. Does Wooten think the newer generation is dumb to overlook his blatant hypocrisy. Not even anything about the guy in Paulding Co who slept with his mother-in-law, while his wife was pregnant. Would a democrat get the same pass? Doubt it.

Diogenes

February 26th, 2010
11:34 am

Good morning, Jim,

May I quote you?

Georgia, therefore, should strip down uncontrollable entitlements, an example of which is the 6-year-old indigent legal defense system.

I realize that conservatives never bother with such trivialities as the Constitution, but the 6th Amendment reads:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

That’s pretty straightforward. Our legislators simply need to make sure that sufficient funds are available.

RetiredSoldier

February 26th, 2010
11:39 am

I have advocated a simple solution for federal politicans that want to spend and spend. The solution is, make us citizens pay for what you want to spend. Be honest about what you are spending and tax everyone and I mean everyone for what you want to spend. The resulting taxpayer revolt would end this absurb spending spree by democrats and republicans hopefully for a generation.

Jess

February 26th, 2010
12:25 pm

According to a Harvard economist, the US government is already bankrupt. He says there is not a credible source anywhere who can demonstrate a way our government can meet it’s current obligations in either the mid term or the long term. If this were an individual or business, they would be declared bankrupt. Most state and local governments, on the other hand, though having a rough ride, are not bankrupt. He basically said the same thing as you. When the world finally quites financing our out of control government, they will have no choice but to default on entitlements. The burden of these will then fall to the state and local governments, who in all likelyhood will not be able to afford them. Next step, massive tax increases, thus crippling our economy.

Not a very pretty picture, but realistic with a government who has their heads in the sand, and keeps on spending even with a collapse of medicare and social security looming.

RetiredSoldier

February 26th, 2010
12:50 pm

I agree compeletly Jess.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 26th, 2010
1:11 pm

why are we giving tax breaks to entice domestic-employer relocations?

Been asking that question for years.

Legislators are debating whether to issue $10 million in general obligation debt to help fund the College Football Hall of Fame in downtown Atlanta.

How many times does one have to pick up a glowing red horseshoe before realizing it’s not the thing to do?

RetiredSoldier

February 26th, 2010
1:23 pm

amen to you too hillbilly

Lee

February 26th, 2010
2:49 pm

“Gasoline’s approaching $3 per gallon. Consumer confidence is at its lowest point since April of last year. Twenty thousand jobs vanished last month; 150,000 in December. The deficit is $1.56 trillion. Georgia is projected to lose another 35,600 jobs this year. And Democrats in Congress are determined to cram down a health care bill the majority of the country doesn’t want. How utterly out of touch Washington — and specifically this administration — is”

And where is the news media? Oh yeah, covering Tiger Woods.

DebbieDoRight

February 26th, 2010
4:10 pm

Jim A story noting that in the past eight months three Ohio firms, two of them from Cleveland and one from Dayton, moved two headquarters and one production line to metro Atlanta was headlined “Ohio’s pain is Georgia’s gain.” As Americans, we have nothing to gain from the joblessness of our fellow citizens

Wow Jim that was the most lucid thing I’ve seen you write in years!!! Congrats :)

But………

I read the second paragraph: A possible outcome of the D.C. health care debacle, for example, will be that Medicaid and PeachCare eligibility will be expanded; initially, the feds will foot the bulk of the bill. When the debt crisis hits, though, they’ll offload burdens to the states. Georgia, therefore, should strip down uncontrollable entitlements, an example of which is the 6-year-old indigent legal defense system.……………..That one ^^^ really makes me wonder………..

All that hard work, (the medication, the lucidity tests, the drinking of green tea and taking of ginko biloba), just went “write” down the drain.

That’s o.k……. better luck next time…… :sad:

Eddie

February 26th, 2010
4:23 pm

Do I see austerety measures down the road?

Michael H. Smith

February 26th, 2010
5:12 pm

Next step, massive tax increases and hyper-inflation like we have never seen Jesse, because at that point we will be – which some say we already are – financing our own debt. Hello Banana Republic, third world economy Et al Warren Buffett.

Don’t cry for us Argentina.

joan

February 26th, 2010
5:40 pm

People with comments about past spending are talking history. We need to deal with now. Health care costs are where they are due to many things, among them Medicare fraud (which was stated to account for 1/3 of the Medicare expenses); illegals and indigents in ever increasing numbers, and whose healthcare is charged up to the taxpayer, and the rising rate of obesity which leads to all sorts of ailments. We need to clean up the fraud, kick out the indigents and encourage people to eat slim. We could save a ton of money, and it wouldn’t cost anything!

Jess

February 27th, 2010
11:39 am

Speaking of cramming down the health care bill, the Democratic Congress today is claiming that 4 million health care jobs will be created under the bill. This will be as a result of 30 million previously uninsured people coming into the system. These are the same people who have claimed the cost of insuring the 30 million people will be minimal because they are currently recieving their care through emergency rooms, and these costs are being passed on to the paying customers.

Either one story or the other is pure deception. You can’t have it both ways.

Also note that 30 million people being covered creating 4 million jobs means that there will be one new health care professional for every 7.5 people added to the system. Their credibility on health care was already shot, but this removes all doubt.

cdawg

February 27th, 2010
12:30 pm

Jim,

I’m sure the unemployed Georgia residents who got jobs at the one of the relocated companies would disagree with your first point.

Not so casual observer

February 27th, 2010
4:14 pm

As all of the medical schools are currently at capacity and the government claims we need 4 million additional health care providers – where will we find the “new” providers? As in England there will be a shortage of professionals and the patient care will be contracted to non-professionals. Adios to the best health care in the world and hello to rationing.

Why do we allow the elected Administration and the elected Congress to destroy an entire system to provide care to 10% of the population? This entire debate is nonsense! Oh, my mistake, this is about POWER not health care! The debate is a smoke screen.

Simply have the government provide (pay for) care for those without insurance who are legal citizens or legal visitors to this country. The government already provides care for legal visitors through treaties with other nations as a means to encourage tourism. We pay for theirs and they pay for ours who need care while visiting. We pay for those without insurance with increased taxes.

Raise everyone’s deductible to $5,000 or 7.5% of their income, whichever is greater. The IRS has already set the 7.5% standard for the deductibility of medical expenses.

Eliminate contingent fees in medical tort cases. This is obvious, we have created a sub-culture of ambulance chasers who never go to court and simply rape the system for billions of dollars every year. No wonder Democrats and trial lawyers are in bed together – politicians and lawyers are the most despised of professions.

Michael H. Smith

February 28th, 2010
10:22 am

And besides, with drinking water and traffic congestion problems here, why are we giving tax breaks to entice domestic-employer relocations?

Choose the best answer:

a) All the other State’s are doing it

b) All for one and none for all

c) Drastic times call for drastic actions

d) Georgia needs private sector jobs to produce tax revenues

Face it, Thinking Right Republican, Capitalism even amongst the GUV’MENT is mercilessly brutal at best. At its’ worst, sinful: Covet not thy neighbor’s worth.

Of course, from the Right Thinking Conservative’s viewpoint the question arises as to why the GUV’MENT imposes the lash of taxation to the backs of businesses and corporations when the carrot of doing the GOV’MENTS bidding in “promoting the general welfare of the United States”, would reward them for creating and retaining jobs ad-infinitum from which the GUV’MENT should derive all its’ needed revenues, whether it is income or consumption based taxation?

Me thinks the GUV’MENT coveteth too much.

Johnny Dodds

March 1st, 2010
2:08 am

Whether you lean left or right, there is no denying America is very broken. Iraq was nothing but shock doctrine capitalism. While Iraqi’s will no doubt be more free in the long term, was it worth it to our own nation? I don’t think so. I support the troops, but do they need to even be there????

I’m in my 30s, am unemployed since September, and have a Masters degree from a large midwestern big 10 university. I can’t even get a call back from anywhere and have more than 10 years of professional experience. I have been telling my wife lately I don’t want to bring children into this world because I’m fairly confident they will not have a better life than I did. The American dream, well I now call it the American nightmare. The national debt, loads of consumer debt, mortgage crisis, trade deficits, the declining dollar, the constant partisan bickering, the vanishing of the middle class, it’s all led to the decline of the empire, which is well on its merry way in my humble opinion. I hate to say it, but I fear these tough times we’re experiencing as a nation are only the beginning. And no government stooge can fix the problem since they ultimately created it. The only thing that history has shown us that ususally brings economies out of grave economic circumstances is war. And in my humble opinion again, if you thought Iraq and Afghanistan were wars, well you haven’t seen nothing yet. The big one is coming. The war on terror set it in motion. I hope you’re all prepared because it will be long and it will be ugly, as if it hasn’t been already. But hey, at least it will get the machine rolling again. America the beautiful? America the ugly, the very very ugly. the dream is dead.

Ace

March 1st, 2010
8:08 am

We’re in pretty good shape, a few loose end to tie down and its happy days again.

The Tar and Feathers Party

March 1st, 2010
9:05 am

Jim, where were you when the Neocons and the neglect of GWB created this debt disaster? When GWB took office, we had a surplus, and projections were the entire National debt would be paid off by 2018. What happened? Oh yeah, we invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, pumped cheap money into housing, created the trillion dollar Medicare Part D drug benefit, and looted by banks to help the private equity thieves. Jim was a cheerleader for the neocons and GWB through this whole debacle.

Jesus luvs Cannabis

March 1st, 2010
9:39 am

I challenge the greatest generation to solve this issue with one glorious,patriotic self-imposed dealth panel. If all the old farts would drink some Jim Jones juice in solidarity on April 15th think of the benefits to the Country. Poof there goes the deficit, hello surplus. Medicare/Social Security would virtually be membership free overnight. Your Country has given you everything, time to show your grandkids true patriotism. Drink up!

The Tar and Feathers Party

March 1st, 2010
10:06 am

Yo Jesus luvs Cannabis: and after the greatest generation is gone, will you be coming for the Giant Generation? Watch your back punk, we are 70 million strong, and we got real assets, not just debt like you fat, lazy slackers.

Justin

March 1st, 2010
1:06 pm

And Mexican drug gangs are taking over our public land/parks…

No More Progressives!

March 2nd, 2010
3:52 pm

Not so casual observer

February 27th, 2010
4:14 pm

As all of the medical schools are currently at capacity and the government claims we need 4 million additional health care providers – where will we find the “new” providers? As in England there will be a shortage of professionals and the patient care will be contracted to non-professionals. Adios to the best health care in the world and hello to rationing.

Why do we allow the elected Administration and the elected Congress to destroy an entire system to provide care to 10% of the population? This entire debate is nonsense! Oh, my mistake, this is about POWER not health care! The debate is a smoke screen.”

Federal Government examples of success:
The Post Office
Fannie Mae
Freddie Mac
Amtrak
Social Security
TVA
Medicare

And next, your health insurance policy, issued be the United States Federal Government.

mit

March 3rd, 2010
11:59 am

Wooten, you retard. GA republicans should remember GHW Bush before increasing taxes? Because we all know how much more important it is to get re-elected rather than what’s important to the state.
You don’t want debt, but don’t want increased taxes. You want smaller govt., but you want to police the world for terrorists.

Bobby

March 4th, 2010
9:11 am

For all you that don’t know, this is called the “Two Santa Claus Theory”. The republicans run up the debt by cutting taxes for the wealthy and borrowing the money to pay for government. Most of the money that is borrowed is spent on the military which is where the wealthy make vast fortunes. When the economy craters because of the bubbles created by the republicans, democrats are swept into office. The first thing the republicans start shouting about is deficit. They want the democrats to be put in the spot of raising taxes and lowering the deficits so they can continue services for the working people. After the economy is fixed and services restored, the republicans start shouting about your high taxes and unnecessary spending. This makes the democrats look like wasteful grinches. We vote republicans back in and the cycle starts over.

That is why the Wooten, conservative talk show hosts and the republicans are complaining about taxes and deficits. They don’t want the democrats to raise taxes on the rich but the workers. They want the democrats to fix the debt bomb they deployed. If the democrats are smart, they will ignore the republicans and spend money on the American workers. If this increases the deficit, who cares. Let the republicans fix it next time they are in power.

Bobby's Smarter Twin

March 4th, 2010
1:08 pm

Bobby is the epitome of the modern liberal left: head in the sand, tax the rich to pay for everything. What mindless moonbats like Bobby do not understand is that lowering the tax burden raises government revenue taken in. The liberal mind is not wired to accept such realities (JFK was about the last one to do so). Bobby is also of the modern liberal mndset that this OUT OF CONTROL spending by the Democrats and Obama white house – way surpassing all of Bush’s years combined, by the way – is no big deal. But that’s okay. America is starting to wake up to the reality of fascism and other shenanigans by these goons on the left running things. Elections later this year and in 2012 can’t come soon enough.

Abe's Long Shadow

March 4th, 2010
3:18 pm

@Bobby’s Smarter Twin
Amen to the comment about the 2012 elections.
You nailed it right on Bobby on those who dishonestly
claim all the ddebt is no big deal. But thankfully you
are right about people waking up. The upcoming mid term
elections are going to rival the recent Chilean earthquake
in terms of a wake up call. Thing is the president
has shown he couldn’t care less if he single handedly
takes down the democratic party with his plans so I
agree 2012 will be just as dramatic.

not so fast my friend

March 4th, 2010
4:09 pm

I’m not letting the GOP off the hook so doggone fast. I voted against McCain because the GOP has shown no fiscal discipline whatsoever, trumps up a useless war that killed a family member of mine, and in the meantime passes trillion dollar medicare giveaways to placate the boomers. All unfunded.

And I keep reading this BS about minority lending programs that Clinton started. If that was such an awful program, why did the Bush Administration continue the program for 8 more years?

Face it – the GOP is broken. At least with the Dems, they stick by their principles and you know what you are getting.

bet u listen now

March 4th, 2010
4:14 pm

plz go to youtube and look at the speeches and debates that feature Ron Paul and then decide who should be President of the US

Paul was telling us 8 years ago what was gonna happen and none of us listened,

m. darden

April 30th, 2010
12:15 pm

The U. S. was once a great country. Will it was until Bush and Cheney took over and went to sleep. They took Social Security money that was taken from my paycheck and used it to fund the “war on weapons of mass destruction” that were not there. Now Social security for our children is in jepordy. They sent hundreds of men to that war and several thousands died. Our economy went bonkers during their reign. Other countries see all the hate mongering that’s going on in the media. Wonder what do they think about that? Hundreds of jobs were sent to other countries while people here became unemployed. Our ecomomy went under which affected the economy of other countries because the banking industry and wall street are closely tied together. Why are people mad with President Obama and not Bush and Cheney. They were in charge during that time of chaos. The Republicans don’t want to talk about the mistakes that were made then. Do we really want them back in charge? I don’t think so. Not anytime soon.