Defined-benefit pension must go

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

● State legislators have signaled an unwillingness to continue subsidizing halls of fame in cities around Georgia. County commissioners in Macon respond by increasing the hotel-motel tax by a penny to 7 percent, which would raise about $400,000 for the sports and music halls of fame and for the Douglass Theatre. When something’s important to locals, they tax themselves. When it’s not, they tax the unrepresented. It ought to be illegal to tax those who cannot object, including future hotel guests and drivers of rental cars. But don’t want to go too far. Otherwise deficit-spending politicians who tax the unborn for current use could find their scams threatened.

● U.S. Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) has got to go. He allegedly found a lobbying job for the husband of his staffer mistress, was lobbied by him, and took actions to help the clients. Bye. Not 2012, when Ensign’s term expires. Now.

● Headline: “Bond ruling raises worry.” Not here. Not with taxpayers. At issue is a solid, unanimous Georgia state Supreme Court decision upholding a 2007 law that requires those shadow public authorities to get voter approval before issuing bonds. State Rep. Mike Jacobs (R-Atlanta), concerned about the amount of debt they issue, introduced the legislation that the DeKalb Development Authority challenged. Pending legislation would clarify that it’s only aimed at those that directly or indirectly involve public debt. The Jacobs bill, plus the clarifying language in pending House Bill 203, should be taken statewide.

● Can any longtime Atlantan remember a major city problem that wasn’t alleged to be the state’s fault or responsibility? There’s even an expectation that the state should help fix the sewers and water pipes. And should we do that for Hahira and Snellville and Savannah and every other local government in Georgia with something that’s broken? How provincial.

● One wonders how it is possible at this late date for anybody not to know how AIDS is transmitted despite the extensive public awareness campaigns of recent decades. And then we read that Lawrenceville Mayor Rex Millsaps had no idea that voting to give city business to a company that employed him was wrong. It’s only been wrong since the beginning of time.

● Though metro Atlanta’s mired in traffic gridlock, strings attached to federal stimulus money require spending 3 percent, or $27.9 million, in Georgia on related projects, such as landscaping, welcome signs, benches, sidewalks and the like. Georgia will spend about $50 million. This is why Georgians should know precisely what they’re buying in terms of projects before approving a transportation tax increase. The risk is that all the interest groups will get together with the politicians and agree to fund each other’s wish list. Meanwhile, we get gridlock.

● One of the great tragedies of American family life is that young men grow up to kill or die prematurely fighting over “respect,” presumably never knowing of any way other than knives, guns and fists to earn it.

● Unless Atlanta and other public bodies fundamentally change their retirement systems for public employees from defined-benefit to defined contribution, they’ll all go broke. It’s too tempting for politicians to placate groups of disgruntled employees by giving them benefits that become due and payable on somebody else’s watch. Atlanta politicians, unwilling to stare down unions and disgruntled employees, most recently in 2001 and 2005, have about bankrupted the city. Atlanta is Washington, but without the printing press. The defined-benefit model can’t work in the public sector.

● Some residents of Austell blame city officials for failing to tell them that homes had been damaged in a 2005 flood. “Had we all known there was a flood before … we would have made some plans to get flood insurance,” said one. Local government officials should be required to wear a badge: “It’s my fault. I should have …”

39 comments Add your comment

Dusty

October 8th, 2009
10:38 pm

So many good points here, Jim. So where to start?

How about a surprise? Get riid of U.S. Senator John Ensign (R) Now! (He’s crooked!) And that from a fine Republican journalist like you, Jim! Ah, the sweet aroma of ethics, something liberals say Republicans never have.

“Can any long time Atlantan remember a major city problem that wasn’t alledged to be the state’s fault or responsibility?” Well, no. It’s one of Atlanta’s traditions. The city’s featherless Phoenix rising from the State’s ashes of neglect! The poor bird is about to crash! AND..a new mayor is coming. with new ideas. Uh huh…

The mayor of Lawrenceville has a bit of a memory problem. He must have forgotten ’cause he voted to give money to a company that employed him. Oh my, those memory problems. If only he had known!!! Send your donations to the Alzheimer’s Association.

And talk about gridlock….a stimulus gifit of 27.9 million for Georgia’s traffic must be used for “other things’ Like what?
Like landscaping, signs, benches and sidewalks. Not one car will ever use such additional projects. Yep, that’s a politician’s idea of improving the local gridlocks. Give you something to view while sitting stalled in your motor vehicle. 27.9 MILLION!!! That’s correct.

Thanks, Jim Wooten, for giving us these facts and figures we need to know, ….27.9 MILLION!!! GRIDLOCK!! And MARTA two dollars one way?? But 27.9 Million! I’m trying to get accustomed to all this foolishness.

Gerald West

October 9th, 2009
6:30 am

Landscaping, benches, landscaped traffic medians? What’s the sense of putting obstructions in the way of all those fat, ugly, phone-obsessed people in their monstrous, top-heavy, gas-guzzling vehicles? How dare any government spend a cent on aesthetics except asphalt and concrete!

Where do you think we are, in socialist Europe?

clyde

October 9th, 2009
7:17 am

Good morning Jim,

Only elected conservatives are short on ethics.The rest understand perfectly well why Ensign has to go.

Halls of fame for playing a game.What a shame.

I know that voter approval of bonds to be issued sounds great,but voters tend to approve almost all bonds anyway,so the idea of saving the taxpayer goes out the window pretty fast.Keep the law,educate the voters,somehow.

Mayor Rex Milsap’s selective memory is better than mine.I’m envious.

I’m also envious that the the people of Atlanta get to see new welcome signs and new benches and landscaping while they sit in gridlock.Here,if we ever did grid,all we would see is trees.

Young men killing themselves off due to a misdirected sense of respect and honor may be a blessing in disguise instead of a tradgedy.

The goose that laid the golden retirement has been beheaded.This is due to demand by people that don’t have a clue and acquiesence by people that are even more clueless.

I live on top of a hill.I don’t buy flood insurance.If I lived at the bottom of the hill I would buy flood insurance.It’s that simple.

A great surprise;Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize,shocking the observers.I read that it was not awarded for any concrete achievement but rather for possible results to come from his to be instituted policies.Maybe it’s a carrot to get us out of Afghanistan.Hard to wage war while holding a Nobel Peace Prize in your hand.

Churchill's MOM

October 9th, 2009
7:17 am

Dusty
10:38 pm
The end is near I agree with you..

*****Handel 2010*****Palin McCain 2012*****

Will

October 9th, 2009
7:57 am

President Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize, bringing world-wide praise to America.

Why will the republican newspaper writers and republican radio entertainers “wee wee” all over themselves in trying to minimize this wonderful news for our grand republic?

Because republican newspaper writers and republican radio entertainers care more about partisan political gain than our grand republic.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9th, 2009
8:05 am

Two profound notes today: Jim’s observation “One of the great tragedies of American family life is that young men grow up to kill or die prematurely fighting over “respect,” presumably never knowing of any way other than knives, guns and fists to earn it.”

The other is in an early note by “Clyde” @ 7:17: “Only elected conservatives are short on ethics.” I would substitute “officials” for “conservatives” to make it more accurate, but otherwise Clyde is on target. “Politics” is an inherently corrupt field, the substitution of one’s judgment for that of the free individuals thus herded into a collective. The only cure for that constraint, of course, is to minimize the scope of the politician’s capacity. E.g., abolish policitical capacity for all nondefense spending. Take away the power, and the corruption disappears like the mists of dawn..

madmommy

October 9th, 2009
8:06 am

So much to say, so little time to type. Nothing that’s wrong with Atlanta is Atlantas fault, didn’t you know? It will take a huge disaster before something is done and by then it will cost three times as much. After all, it’s been talked about for the past 10 plus years.

They are spending how much on signs, benches, grass and trees? OMG, and they can’t fix pot holes or cut back the weeds that are already standing on the highways? Honestly, there are areas around my house that are so bad, I have to run in the street with the jogging stroller just to go around them. Shame.

I wonder if those in the higher ups are required to take ethics every year like most do who work in the professional arena? I mean, they mandate that we do it, but I guess it’s ok for them to skip it they don’t need it anyway.

It’s Friday and I’m going to try and have a great day despite Oblama wining a Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing. What a great message to send to our kids. We are going to reward you for future work, but now that you have the “prize” will you still do the work required? I feel for those who have already made great strides in their life and deserved to win it and didn’t. He should give it back.

clyde

October 9th, 2009
8:09 am

Will,
Read the world’s newspapers.There are words like,”he was mentioned but observers were stunned by the choice”.These are people who watch and know a lot more about this than you or I.This is a purely political award.It does nothing to boost America’s image abroad,and may have exactly the opposite effect.

By the way,Will,I’m neither a Republican nor a newspaper writer.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9th, 2009
8:12 am

Dear Will @ 7:57, speaking on behalf of all reactionary mugwumps, I would be the first to affirm that our Dear Leader belongs on a list with Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, and Yassir Arafat.

jconservative

October 9th, 2009
8:20 am

As a ciitizen of, and a big fan of, the United States of America, I think the Nobel for Obama is great. Good for us.

I hope an American wins it next year.

"Charles", The Original

October 9th, 2009
8:23 am

I challenge anyone to show how the great great grandchildren of slaves can earn respect given their history of slavery and betrayal in America. In 1565, the process had begun to enslave Negroes for the purpose of developing the new world. Negroes were sold to Europeans by Africans for money etc. And other Negroes were outright captured or kidnapped by Europeans on the continent of Africa and transported across the Atlantic Ocean by way of ships to the Americas.

Fast forward 300 years, 1865. Negroes had been freed by Abraham Lincoln as a result of the civil war. But there was a peculiar turn of events. After freedom had been proclaimed, the house Negroes, mongrels, children as a result of the mating of Negro women and their masters, had no longer the capacity to appreciate freedom. The thought of freedom frightened them and they were often heard begging and pleading for the security of slavery, “oh masser oh masser don’t worry bout us. Oh masser oh masser don’t worry bout us. We gone be here whicha just like we always been”. On the other hand, the field Negroes experienced the brunt of slavery. They were bred to be huers of wood and drawers of water. The field Negro wanted to separate from their captors and begin an independent self sufficient life.

One hundred years later, 1965, the masses of Negroes and white people opposed the concept of integration espoused by the federal government and the house Negro, or the so-called educated integrationist Negro mongrels. But the federal government imposed its will upon both people. And the overwhelming majority of Negroes, field Negroes, wouldn’t be allowed to separate. They were to be herded into integrated schools and mis-educated, brainwashed. The concept of Negro institutions to shower Negroes with respect, dignity, and power as a people or persons would be educated out of the Negro psyche. The so-called educated integrationist Negroes had reversed Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation effectively re-enslaving the masses of Negroes in exchange for money, plush jobs, status, etc. at the behest of the federal government. Instead of chattel slavery, the new name for enslavement would be called integration.

Given the synopsis of Negro history after 1565 to the present day, there are two major competing choices that Negroes use to fight for respect, dignity, and power. The first is to be the best so-called educated boot-licking, butt-licking, buck dancing, bamboozled, half-baked and others half-fried, sissified, punkified, pasteurized, homogenized, Negrorized, integrationist. And the second is to fight for respect via knives, guns and fists. Those choices amount to a dozen rotten eggs in one hand and twelve rotten eggs in the other.

The honorable choice available for Negroes to earn respect, dignity, and power outside of their own mind that’s acceptable to God Almighty and well-meaning people everywhere is through the robust building of Negro institutions. Negro institutions should be constructed for the purpose of servicing the basic needs of the humble Negro masses and hopefully others. Simultaneously and systematically, the so-called educated integrationist Negrorized mentality has to be exterminated.

Then and only then will Negroes be able to quote with new meaning words taken from an old Negro spiritual, respect at last, and dignity at last. Thank God Almighty, the great great grandchildren of former slaves would realize respect, dignity, and power at last.

interested observer

October 9th, 2009
8:26 am

I supported and continue to support Barack Obama, but awarding him the Nobel Peace Prize based on what the committee hopes he will do is absurd. I will be all too happy to eat crow if in four years he lives up to this premature award, but I wouldn’t issue World Series rings just yet on the basis of the Braves’ potential of winning it all in 2010.

Jman

October 9th, 2009
8:28 am

Will, it has nothing to do with partisan politics. It is that they recognize there was nothing accomplished to earn the award. It would be like giving the batting title to a .250 hitter because we like your technique, or he is a great guy. What has Obama done to EARN this award? I guess shipping terror suspects off to other countries, stalling on making a decision in Afghanistan, and bad mouthing your country constitute a peace award.

Th

October 9th, 2009
8:55 am

It’s a rare Friday I agree with Wooten on pretty much everything. I had to laugh about the pensions though because I warned my far right wing, Beck loving, retired fireman father in law that he shouldn’t be carrying on so much about the damn unions and GM workers bankrupting their company with their pensions because they were going to come for his pension next. I thought he was going to have a stroke he got so angry (not that people would propose such a thing but that I would equate the two). My wife said I absolutely cannot send him this column. But, Jim, isn’t your pension defined benefit?

Don

October 9th, 2009
8:58 am

The defined benefit pension itself is not the problem. The problem is failure to make said pension financially sound by using actuary data and having the money to fund it paid in up front, as opposed to putting an IOU in the drawer. The employees should also expect to pay a portion of it as well.

A defined benefit pension is a good thing for us as a society, as it increases the odds of a retiree having enough to live on rather than needing public assistance or reducing their economic activity. (much better for our economy in the long run rather than 401K’s invested in the “stock market casino”) The whole problem is that we want somebody else to pay for it. Having the public make a contribution toward retirement for public employees is no different from doing the same thing in a private company. We just shouldn’t expect the public to pay the whole bill.

clyde

October 9th, 2009
9:09 am

Ragnar,
Please remove Jimmy Carter.He at least tried.

sane jane

October 9th, 2009
9:11 am

So, to kill or die prematurely on the streets of Chicago is a tragedy (true), but to kill or die prematurely on the streets of Baghdad is heroic (if American) or inconsequential (if an Iraqi civilian).

I love the mobility of your ethics.

Big Buskx GOP doing the Lords work

October 9th, 2009
9:22 am

In the year since the government stepped in to rescue the collapsing
mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the agencies have taken $96
billion from the Treasury, and may still need more.

Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work

October 9th, 2009
9:23 am

Yohji Yamamoto, the Japanese fashion design house, said Friday it has
filed for bankruptcy protection, citing slumping sales amid a global
downturn.

William Casey

October 9th, 2009
9:55 am

I want to clear up what may be an inadvertent misconception on Jim’s part. I taught in Georgia’s schools for 31 years, 25 of them in public schools. I retired in 20006. I now enjoy a decent “defined benefits” retirement program and I EARNED it. I paid into this program during each and every one of those 25 years. In addition, I “bought back” out-of-pocket five years of my private school time to the tune of about $30,000. Please don’t give the impression that my defined benefits retirement life is some kind of rip-off of the taxpayers.

sane jane

October 9th, 2009
10:11 am

Well put, William Casey! And might I add, thank you for your visit from the future! How are we earthlings doing in the year 20,006?

;-)

Bill B

October 9th, 2009
10:33 am

If it is a great tragedy of American family life to have young men die prematurely over a misguided concept of respect (which it is) why can we not acknowledge what a tragedy of American family life it is for young men – and women – to die in foreign wars over a misguided concept of America’s interest? In the ’60s when Jim and I were young men, old men sent our generation off to die in an unwinnable foreign war that we ultimately withdrew from. The communist government we so feared is now our trading partner. Our engagements in Iraq and Afghanistan are equally unwinnable in the traditional sense, and the lives lost there and families torn asunder in the aftermath can never be justified. That’s an American tragedy!

sane jane

October 9th, 2009
11:04 am

Wooten’s blog is a GHOST TOWN. So sad.

3rd Party Guy

October 9th, 2009
11:15 am

Jim, did you delete my earlier comment?

clyde

October 9th, 2009
12:03 pm

It is difficult to see Jim’s blog so poorly attended.There are many good subjects here to mull over.It doesn’t help that the AJC relegates Jim to the back pages so swiftly,but that’s not the whole problem.I’ll continue to look forward to Tuesdays and Fridays as long as Jim writes.

DNC Media Guru

October 9th, 2009
1:13 pm

Well if there were ever any doubt about the joke known as the Nobel “Peace” Prize, Oslo sealed that up in a lead container and dropped it into the Mariana Trench. This latest stunt, selecting Obama, says it all about the non-relevance of the entire organization, let alone the “prize.” Jimmy Carter was pretty laughable, but at least he had years behind him. Oslo had never heard of Obama, nor most anyone else outside of Chicago for that matter, prior to a couple years ago. Just ten days into Obama’s presidency, the Nobel Committee selected him. And Obama is far from “humbled” to be sure even though he’s saying so. But this is less about him and more about the absolute mindlessness of liberalism around the globe. No, STUPIDITY of liberalism around the globe.

It doesn’t take much common sense thinking to understand 1) this was a thumb at the nose of those who voted against Obama, 2) a last jab at the former Bush administration and happiness that an American apologist is in the White House, and 3) a suckup. Let’s all figure out what will be the next brilliance coming out of Oslo. How about nominating George Soros for global media blitz for liberals? Or Ronald McDonald for helping feed kids and fattening them up around the globe? Or how about Hugo Chavez? Mohamar Khaddafi? Let’s all put our heads together and see what other brilliant ways the Nobel Committee can diminish the same “prize” that was awarded to MLK and George C. Marshall (you Obamabots can Google “Marshall Plan” for more info on him).

Cutty

October 9th, 2009
1:15 pm

Wooten retired 6 months ago. He wrote these blogs back in February. Its mostly fill in the blank stuff he wrote ages ago.

cranky old man

October 9th, 2009
1:22 pm

Hmm. You’re slipping, Jim. I can’t find anything in this column with which to disagree. The only point I’d like to expand upon is the pensions. They would be sustainable, if governments would be responsible and pay into the pension funds at an adequate rate as they go, instead of relying on overly optimistic projections on investment returns and future tax revenue. (Yes, yes. I know. Stop snickering.)

When these pension plans were started decades ago, the trade-off for working in the public sector vs. the private sector was lower pay in exchange for job security, good benefits, and a secure pension. In the past 3-4 decades, however, most companies in the private sector have been engaged in a race to the bottome with their competitors to cut wages and benefits. (Of course, the Chamber of Commerce prefers to call it “increased productivity.”) Meanwhile, public sector jobs have (mostl) continued on their merry way, getting annual cost of living wages to keep pace with inflation, and retaining their traditional retirement plans, even as the private sector has replaced theirs with 401K’s. So the issue is not so much that public employees are lavishly compensated, but that everyone else has been reduced to disposable minimum-wage serfs, constantly under threat of being made redundant by technology or outsourcing.

RetiredSoldier

October 9th, 2009
1:55 pm

Clyde-

Absolutely,Jim is the best the AJC has to offer.

Hillbilly Deluxe

October 9th, 2009
3:09 pm

“Politics” is an inherently corrupt field

Or as we say up here in the hills, “if they ain’t a crook when they go in, they will be time they come out”.

Ensign, Rangel, and probably a few dozen more we don’t know about, need to go.

joeblow

October 10th, 2009
2:59 pm

It is either thru benign neglect, willful intent or simple ignorance (all of which are inexcusable for members of an editorial board of a major newspaper) that Mr. Wooten’s long term misrepresentation of ‘defined benefit’ pension programs continues, and is allowed to continue.
Item- Many, if not most, city, county and state employees do not pay into social security. Outside of any voluntary savings, investment or IRA involvement, the defined retirement benefit is the only source of retirement income for tens of thousands of Georgia’s public servants. In his statements re: the City of Atlanta, I challenge you to find the instance where Mr. Wooten has made this simple fact a part of his continuing misinformation campaign. This would be less of concern if not for the fact that members of the Atlanta City Council and state legislature have occasionally quoted Mr. Wooten verbatim, albeit rarely with attribution.
Item- Virtually all defined benefit plans rely on the revenue generated by the investment of the funds contributed by employees and their employer in long term investments in equities, bonds and other ’safe’ revenue generating entities or enterprises. Mr. Wooten seems to be unaware, or unwilling to recognize, that it was the economic policies of those ‘right thinking’ conservative federal policy makers and business leaders, along with lax oversight by conservative state leaders, that precipitated the problematic world wide investment scenarios which, in turn, created revenue issues for, not just public employee pension funds, but for corporate pension funds (both defined benefit and defined contribution), small business retirement funds, hundreds of financial management firms and thousands, if not millions, of individual financial professionals. Most government and corporate defined benefit pension plans, just like all the rest, would be doing just fine otherwise. Mr. Wooten needs to admit to himself, if not to anybody else, that this single fact is the major reason why Democrats deservedly occupy the White House and control Congress.
Item- It isn’t just the long term financial security of those enrolled in defined contribution plans that is at stake. America’s large public employee defined benefit plans are some of the most influential and (necessarily) financially conservative investor groups in the world. In fact, most defined benefit plans have internal financial and investment criteria aimed at managing risk that specifically prohibit involvement in entire arenas of otherwise broadly exercised investment activity. Advocating for the dissolution of these types of entities in favor of pension plans oriented towards shorter time horizons, shorter term gain and hands-on, day to day ‘management’ by huge numbers of largely unschooled, unaware and financially inexperienced individuals (you and me) only promises more large scale financial, social and economic volatility and an ever increasing lack of ’security’, in all of its forms, for us all.
Item- Unlike those enrolled in defined contribution plans, who are generally allowed to walk away with all contributions free of any internally imposed penalty, and who escape IRS penalties if the proceeds are appropriately managed, most defined contribution plans impose substantial financial penalties on those who elect to collect monthly benefits or ‘cash out’ of the plan before a certain age (usually 62 or 65). This is in addition to any IRS penalties for early withdrawal.
Item- Mr. Wooten also doesn’t mention that not long ago, that participants in the City’s defined benefit plan weren’t vested in the plan until their 16th year of service. In other words, one had to work for the City for 15 years and one day to collect any of their employer’s contribution, which otherwise remained in the fund. This was changed during the revamping of the plan in 2005/2006.
Item- In Mr. Wooten’s latest, ‘Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all’, he writes, ‘Pick a topic:’. I assumed he was aiming that at the general reader, not the headline writer, who had their choice of nine different topics, but decided to go with ‘Defined pension must go’. One can only think that this was actually aimed at the remaining members of an internal AJC audience struggling to deal with the impact of much larger economic issues on their personal financial futures in historically trying financial times.
Speaking of which, I’d be more than happy to share my FT subscription with those members of the editorial board (and the intern working as headline writer) if they’d like to bone up on some economic basics.

JohnD

October 10th, 2009
8:17 pm

Jim — your bias is showing. You don’t seem to mind that metro Atlanta pays more in taxes than it gets back. Why whine about gridlock in Atlanta when GDOT and the State GOP purposely siphons off tax dollars from where the people are (metro Atlanta) and spend it where the politicians live (South Georgia)?

Oh — I also bet that Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize AND the Navy naming a ship after Medgar Evers is really giving you heartburn.

And Medgar Evers was honored by a white southern male (a democrat, of course) but it still must stick in your craw. I mean after all Medgar was just another community organizer trying to overturn the traditional southern society.

Almost makes you want to retire? Hint. Hint.

A World (Atlanta) Without (Lisa) Border

October 10th, 2009
9:27 pm

Wow. First Obama gets a Nobel Prize and then the Navy names a ship after Medgar Evers.

Two african-american community organizers honored in the same week?

No wonder the GOP is so angry. I think they have the ‘vapors’…what ever happened to our southern traditions.

John

October 13th, 2009
3:55 pm

Defined benefits NEED TO GO!!! it is going to kill our economy over time…Unions are a joke they remind me of ACRON, our companies do not put kids to work! this is not the 1920’s. We are in a global economy these days, we need to be competitive otherwise the jobs will go overseas and at some point the unions will have to go after white collar workers to join their rolls since they have ran off all the manufacturing jobs in the USA. As for gov’t workers no offense, but has anyone ever had to goto downtown ATL for anything that deals with Gov’t??? i do not need to explain, one word LAZY, lets stop giving or gov’t employees lifetime jobs and full pensions and hire people who will work hard and give a crap.

Rone

October 14th, 2009
4:26 am

Hey Woots,

Have Perdue hold another prayer meeting on Gov’t property. I need this rain to stop.

Will the big G answer my prayers?

Forever yours, big woots!

Keep on prayin’!!!

Rone

October 14th, 2009
4:35 am

I gotta say this one last thing…

I’ve been reading your blog on and off for about 5 years, and I have never read anything that even comes close to the devils words himself, (or herself) than that of Dusty. She makes everyone else on this blog look like a genius.

She needs to step back, and ease off on the Manechevits. She makes all of your contributors look like Nobel Prize winners. Which, by the way, is a good thing in this world.

Take it sleazy, wingnuts.

Dusty

October 14th, 2009
9:34 pm

Rone, honey, whatcha doing up at 4:25 in the morning? The DTs keep you awake?

Now be a good lil’ lib and get some rest and rehab. Best wishes.

Here’s a huggy bear just for you. Enjoy….

mike

October 15th, 2009
9:35 am

I’ll suscribe to defined contribution the day the brokers on Wall Street are honest.

It’ll never happen.

Bush tried to turn Social Security into just such a plan (defined contribution) and it would have broken almost every senior citizen in this nation.

What do you have against, senior citizens, Wooten? Leave their fixed incomes alone.

Not Cox

November 15th, 2009
1:01 pm

You idiots at Cox/AJC have no feel for Atlanta. You have blown out so many good reporters your paper mirrors nothing of life here present or past. Jim Axel dies 30 hours ago and not a mention from you blowhards. 34 years on Atlanta television covering our lives for decades and you clowns are too busy with Souper Jenny recipes or a rapper getting tossed out of a posh hotel. This is a cool city with almost 5 million people. Your paper deserves it’s fate. I laugh when I walk past your machines charging a dollar. Congrats clown team.