Letterman, Polanski and us

I’ll admit that America’s Entertainment industry often strike me as an alien world.  Two recent examples are Hollywood’s reaction to the arrest of Roman Polanski and the reaction to late-night television host David Letterman’s affairs with subordinates. 

The first reaction to Letterman is ho-hum. He revealed the sexual relationships with staffers while relating an account of an effort to blackmail him.  It was presented in a way that evoked laughter from the audience.   On Monday night, he apologized again to staffers and to his wife who, he said, “has been horribly hurt by my behavior.”

While other entertainers have taken a few comic pot-shots at Letterman, the reaction in general has been that it’s no big deal.  There is,  however, one element that makes it a big deal — and that is the unequal power relationship that exists in their workplace. 

In the public sector, any politician who exploited subordinates would — or should — be driven from office.  Any law enforcement officer who exploited prisoners would be summarily fired and possibly jailed.  Any teacher who took advantage of a student would, likewise, be fired.  A business executive who engaged in the Letterman behavior with corporate staffers would be quickly dismissed.  And any military officer who committed even one breach with a subordinate would be drummed out of service.  So why the double-standard here?

The point here is not about Letterman and his wife.  Their relationship is their business.  It’s the workplace  setting coupled with  the unequal boss-employee power relationship that makes this a firing offense.

Worse than the CBS inaction or the industry’s silence on Letterman is the Hollywood reaction to the Polanski arrest.  The actress  Debra Winger was  among the 100 Hollywood celebrities who signed a petition asking for the release of film director Roman Polanski for raping a 13-year-old three decades ago. (It wasn’t “rape-rape” says Whoopi Goldberg, since charges were reduced to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor.)  Winger had this to say about Hollywood and the Polanski’s crime: “We stand by him and await his release and his next masterpiece.”

No big deal.  As with a person in custody, no 13-year-old can consent to sex with an adult, expecially one who at the time was 43 years old.   But, hey,  “we stand by him and await his… next masterpiece.”  Much of Hollywood has no clue about the nation’s values.

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Aquagirl

October 6th, 2009
8:43 am

Whoopi needs a good strong cup ‘o STFU.

I’m not crying over Polanski’s arrest. To be fair, though, some people (inside and outside of Hollywood) are more concerned about judicial monkeyshines and the way the case was originally handled. Those objections should be separate from comments like Whoopi’s “not rape-rape” sort of blather. I do agree large chunks of Hollywood have no clue about the real world. They share something in common with devotees of Bill O’Reilly or Rush Limbaugh, both whom had many non-Hollywood defenders when they committed crimes.

Also of note: it’s the godless liberal feminists who seem to be leading the charge against Polanski’s defenders. Where exactly does that fit into the diatribes against “libs?”

Bill Rogers

October 6th, 2009
8:45 am

Iv’e been saying to my wife for years that there was something sleazy about Letterman, guess I was right. No question Hollywood people have the morals of an alley cat, and yet they are idolized by the public, witness Letterman’s audience. What does that say about the public?

Wil Dalton

October 6th, 2009
8:54 am

As for Letterman, who cares? If you have to stay up late at night, find something else to do rather than watch TV.
And for Polanski, they guy is 76 years old and we have spent enough tax payer money on this. In a few years, he’ll be dead. If he goes to jail, we get to pay all of his medical expenses, as well as housing expenses. He got away with it and we need to get over it.

Jon but not Jon Voight

October 6th, 2009
8:56 am

Ah yes – the predictable Hollywood attack. Jim, you didn’t even mention Michael Jackson. What, you getting lazy or somethin? And, how about those politicians? Like a Republican governor from South Carolina? Talk about the nation’s values! but remember – it’s only Hollywood that hasn’t a clue. Unlike you.

norman ravitch

October 6th, 2009
8:59 am

Only drunken insomniacs have made the late night shows popular. As for Polanski, Hollywood has shown its true nature.

John

October 6th, 2009
9:02 am

Polanski fled the country AFTER his conviction. If he had legal arguments as to his sentence, he should have stayed in the country and fought his battles. It is apparent to even the most casual observer that “Hollywood People” are treated differently by the courts; to me it’s clear that he stood a better chance in a Los Angeles courtroom than on the run. The fact that he ran shouts “Guilty” to the rooftops. Welcome home, Roman, so nice to see you again.

Jim's a Cherry Picker

October 6th, 2009
9:12 am

Hi Jim,

I thought you were gone.

That’s some nice cherry picking on Hollywood. There’s certainly nothing sleazy going on on the Right side of the aisle in DC, not to mention those corporations you love to trust.

One thing to keep in mind about Hollywood, is that the sleaze, slime and violence they produce is all for us. They’re just making a buck on our endless intererst in culture porn.

Cheers.

Mimi

October 6th, 2009
9:15 am

Aquagirl,

lib Feminist Majority founder Peg Yorkin said “It’s bad a person was raped. But that was so many years ago. The guy has been through so much in his life. It’s crazy to arrest him now. Let it go.”

That’s really standing up for women. (thick sarcasm)

clyde

October 6th, 2009
9:17 am

I’ll leave Letterman to the court of public opinion.If his ratings drop,he’ll be gone.I don’t watch him.Never could stand him.

In the case of Roman Polanski,Whoopi,it may not be rape rape in your muddled brain,but I still think he deserves a stretch in jail jail.

Jon but not Jon Voight

October 6th, 2009
9:17 am

And after he’s been locked up for years, as a sexual predator, we can hound Polanski to death with our Draconian sexual predator laws. You know us Southerners – we never forgive or forget – unless Republican or Confederate!

Cutty

October 6th, 2009
9:18 am

Did Mark Sanford do something just as bad, on the taxpayers dime, and he’s still sleeping in the guvnah’s mansion? Albeit by himself now.

Jon but not Jon Voight

October 6th, 2009
9:18 am

And after he’s been locked up for years, as a sexual predator, we can hound Polanski to death with our Draconian sexual predator laws. You know us Southerners – we never forgive or forget – unless Republican!

Road Scholar

October 6th, 2009
9:33 am

Representatives of the public sector, law enforcement, teaching profession, and the military are in positions of trust and I agree with your indignation. The military also has strong anti-harrasment rules with the result spelled out. But many businesses still do not have well defined harrasment rules/penalties, so without them, prosecution/action may still be difficult.

While I agree that ethics should be the basis for all citizens, how often are ethics abuses “justified”? If no person comes forward to report the abuse, can one then deduce that the contact was consentual? Letterman’s problems are between him and his girlfriend/wife and are dependant on whether they occurred after a commitment was made to each other. That is their business, not ours, as you state. Double Standard, no. Disgusting, yes.

As for Polanski, he is scum! But one has to ask why now do they try to arrest him after so many years, especially since the victem (sp) has requested the charges be dropped.

Aquagirl

October 6th, 2009
9:45 am

@ Mimi: congrats for digging up a fossil. Heck, you can find a few people from *any* group who will defend Roman Polanski.

I’ll see your Peg Yorkin and raise you an Eve Ensler.

Hmmmm

October 6th, 2009
9:45 am

Course, the fact that Letterman and most of Hollywood had absolutely nothing to do with today’s opinion.

Funny how Wooten doesn’t critisize the Republican sex-offenders – and there are LOTS of them.

Hmmmm

October 6th, 2009
9:48 am

Cour, the fact that Letterman and most of Hollywood ARE DEMOCRATS had absolutely nothing to do with today’s opinion.

Funny how Wooten doesn’t critisize the Republican sex-offenders – and there are LOTS of them.

Mimi

October 6th, 2009
9:55 am

Aquagirl, Polanski was arrested on 9/26, Ensler didn’t make her statement til 9/30. That’s hardly ‘leading the charge’. Liberal feminists, like many others, were waiting to see public sentiment or if the story would blow over before committing their ‘outrage’. Try again.

Old Vet

October 6th, 2009
9:55 am

Good column, Jim. Letterman should do his Thanksgiving pie-baking segment featuring his Mother early to help repair his image. Or restore old cars like Jay Leno whereby he could hit on old fenders instead of young staffers.

JDW

October 6th, 2009
9:56 am

Predictably Republican Jim, the government should stay out of our business except when it is enforcing morality. Where were you when the last Republican politician got caught with his drawers down? In the case of Letterman, if his “victims” are so disposed they have multiple avenues of legal recourse. Most likely they were just looking to get ahead in the world and really did not want this to be in the papers. In the case of Polanski, first off this happened a long time ago and while sex with 13 year olds is disgraceful, there are serious questions regarding prosecutorial conduct and the victim has asked on multiple occasions for the charges to be dismissed. In fact she has stated that the publicity surrounding the prolonged case has been much worse than the incident itself. Maybe you should be asking why this is still being pursued rather than critiquing the predictable response.

Call it like it is.

October 6th, 2009
10:00 am

Okay, not quite sure how this became a right/left thing. Not sure how anything that was spoken in this article can be debated. If your 43 and you sleep with a 13 year old you are wrong. Doesnt matter how long you have evaded the law, you need to be punished. If I was the girls daddy is would have been handle a long time ago.

Letterman is married, he slept around, he too is wrong! Right is right and wrong is wrong, nothing to do with politics. When did we as a society start to believe that cheating and “rape, rape” wasnt bad?

Bring back the scarlet letter.

Steve

October 6th, 2009
10:10 am

Letterman’s affairs were with women who were employed by CBS for Letterman’s show. While none of these women may have filed suit against Letterman; CBS Corporate still has a situation where someone considered to be in management was having affairs with members of their staff. Did any of the women having affairs with Letterman get raises while women not having affairs did not? If so, can a case be made for sexual discrimination against Letterman and CBS Corporate?

Sara

October 6th, 2009
10:10 am

A few points, my main one being since we’ve stopped holding our elected officials accountable for this kind of behavior, why should anyone else have to be held accountable either? Blame Clinton and Newt all the way down to Edwards, Sanford, and Ensign for teaching Americans how it’s done.

Polanski deserves anything he gets and then some. 13 year-olds cannot consent (nor can their ambitious mother’s consent for them). Letterman however to a certain extent, Jim, I must disagree. Power disparities or not, if the women Letterman slept with aren’t complaining, no one else should be. The fact he hasn’t been slapped with a sexual harassment lawsuit long before now kind of tells it’s own story.

Fair and Balanced

October 6th, 2009
10:21 am

But Senator Ensign didn’t do anything really wrong huh Jim?

Shawny

October 6th, 2009
10:31 am

This is a post regarding hollywood double standards. Letterman and Polanski are hollywood figures who have been recently drawn out due to scandal.
9:56 / 10:21 / It has nothing to do with politicians. Idiots that bring up scandalous GOP criminals are peeing into the wind. Politicians, both sides, have many, many crooks. But it is apples and oranges.

Mutts R Dirty, Filthy Scum

October 6th, 2009
10:34 am

Roman should hang, slowly, as well as ALL of his supporters. That said, the Repukes have had, and are having, more than enough sex scandals to also hang. If you include their war crimes under the Chimp in Chief, BushBaby, then the pace of hanging should be much slower than for Raman and his ilk. Now on to the important stuff: Akmed and Abdul are plotting with Ivan and Tojo to stop pricing and trading oil in dollars. For you slow witted Repukes, that means the end of the AmeriKan empire.

clyde

October 6th, 2009
10:40 am

Had I known we were supposed to take into account all sex offenses committed by both political parties since the dawn of time I would have written my first post differently.I would have mentioned Clinton,George Washington,Marie Antoinette ,Caligula,and Eve,just to name a few.

Aquagirl

October 6th, 2009
10:40 am

@ Mimi, wow, 4 days! What a waffler! Of course, only 70 or so idiots had signed the pedophile protection petition by the 28th. Not everyone jumped to respond to Polanski’s arrest, even the enablers.

Not that 4 days is that long to respond…though I realize 4 days is an eternity to those addicted to twitter and Adderall. Really, thinking before opening your mouth could have benefits. Give it a try sometime.

Mutts R Dirty, Filthy Scum

October 6th, 2009
10:42 am

As we all know, Eve was a sl ut. Did ya think that was real snake in the bibble, er, bible.

clyde

October 6th, 2009
10:50 am

One last post for today.Does anyone remember when you didn’t have to sit around and wait for your drill battery to charge so you could drill holes?Didn’t there used to be a drill you just plugged in and used? What happened to them anyway?Are they still for sale?

Peter

October 6th, 2009
10:55 am

Yes these folks had sex……..

George Bush and Dick Cheney ‘Made Up A War”, and allowed guys like Bernie Maddoff to steal Billions……….. Cheney stole from American’s via cost plus contracts.

Some Moral fiber there !

Marc

October 6th, 2009
11:02 am

What is wrong with you people! Did Wooten bring up any politicians? Mention any political party? He brought up two people in the private sector. Polanski drugged and rape a 13 year old and not just vaginally but anally! And you bring up politicians and say what about him/her! You are disgusting! You like to shift responsibility away from the person doing the wrong to the victim. Polanski was convicted and fled after he was convicted. The procedural part had to do with his sentancing!

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 6th, 2009
11:03 am

Good morning all. (1) As to Letterman, no crime there. If the staffers wish to assert their EEOC civil claims, the courts can adjudicate those. (2) As to Polanski, there is a crime. Surely all agree that nobody, not even a President, should be above a plain-language law, like rape or perjury.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 6th, 2009
11:07 am

To differentiate legality from morality, there is little moral difference between Letterman’s abuse of his staffers and Polanski’s crime. Surely Jim’s note on leftist hypocrisy is well-placed, given the howls on this blog by those who always object to conservatives falling short of conservative standards. We acknowledge that leftists have no standards, but that is hardly a ringing endorsement of their “consistency” in conforming to their absence of standards.

JLK

October 6th, 2009
11:09 am

Oh, NANNY WOOTEN: These are two completely different things. Thirteen-year-old children are too young to give consent. Polanski should be punished. I can’t imagine why anyone defends that scum.

Letterman is an alpha male, hence his indulgence in opportunities that are naturally presented. The assertion that politicians, military personnel and business executives (HAHAHAHAHA!) are usually fired for such things is absurd. Anyone who “sleeps with the boss” to get ahead in the TV industry does it because he or she chooses to. It’s only an issue of someone raises a fuss or gets caught with their pants down on camera.

As one who was regularly “sexually harrassed in the workplace” in my 20’s, I guarantee you, NO ONE CARES. (I had no Republican lawyers swooping out of the sky to sue for a quarter mil like Paula Jones. I had to stand up for myself, and I did.) Ask ANY pretty 26 year old at your office, and she’ll tell you she gets regular offers and suggestions. Hard core coercion does happen — and is inexcusable — but not nearly as often as voluntary fooling around, which is as common in the workplace as a turkey sandwich with a side of Sun Chips. Had women come forth reporting coercion, this would be a different story, but thus far there has been NO evidence, or even suggestion, that this was the case. FACT: Some people like to be the boss’s little pet for awhile, and enjoy the thrill of intimacy. Grown-ups don’t need YOU to dictate their behavior or the consequences of their personal activities, NANNY WOOTEN.

AmVet

October 6th, 2009
11:20 am

“A business executive who engaged in the Letterman behavior with corporate staffers would be quickly dismissed.”

Are your fricking serious, Jimbo????

Hell they are even “dismissed” when they loot, pillage, plunder and steal outright!

A fifteen year corporate crime wave that has ruined countless lives and other than an occasional moron like Ebbers, the rest of them have laughed their way to the bank.

At yours and my expense.

And you cheer for them.

“Much of Hollywood has no clue about the nation’s values”.

On this I also disagree.

Because of the dolts, on the left AND right, who pay their way, they have a very popular and representative voice in America.

I wouldn’t watch Letterman if you paid me. Never have. Nor the endless litany of garbage that comprises what I politically incorrectly call Tard TV.

And you, Jimbo?

How much of it do you and your slobbering faithful here watch?

Hours every night and day?

I thought so…

Mimi

October 6th, 2009
11:26 am

@Aquagirl

So you can’t really defend it so you resort to ridicule and personal insults. How very typical of you ‘enlightened and compassionate’ libs.

DebbieDoRight

October 6th, 2009
11:51 am

Jim — I would congratulate you on your excellent piece of jouranlism, (it seems that you’ve been taking your meds now pretty steadily), however I do recall a few years back when O’Reily was accused, by his female employees, of improprieties and how you rushed to defend him and defame the females in question. I also vaguely remember your doing the same thing with Limbaugh, (when he was accused of going to procure child prostitutes from a third world country) and Haggerty, (male prostitutes).

The one common denominator of all the men that you’ve mentioned and the ones that I’ve mentioned is that they were accused of a heinous sexual crime. However, at least Letterman ADMITTED his wrong doings and apologized for it BEFORE it became public knowledge. The ones that I’ve mentioned………not so much.

Oh don’t worry, those meds are still doing wonders for you!!! Keep up the good work!

Jay Leno

October 6th, 2009
12:44 pm

Dave- How many other ones have there been in the 24 years you have with with your partner, now your wife?

hryder

October 6th, 2009
12:49 pm

That I am aware none of the mentioned politicians were involved with underage persons. An extremely important legal distinction. Also, Polanski fled after a guilty plea and fled prior to sentencing when he believed he would be sentenced to a longer term to which he had agreed. He should be prosecuted and persecuted until his death. He is morally and legally snubbing his nose at society after admitting totally corrupt and illegal behavior.

Marc

October 6th, 2009
1:18 pm

AmVet why is it always someone else fault? The only people that can be blamed for the corporate “pillaging” is each and every stock holder, person that owns a 401K that did not take the time to do “due diligence” on what they we’re investing in

Brad Steel

October 6th, 2009
1:40 pm

Wooten asserts: A business executive who engaged in the Letterman behavior with corporate staffers would be quickly dismissed.

Maybe, maybe not. This assertions shows that Wooten is not only alien to the “American Entertainment industry” (sic), but he also is clueless to a lot of corporate America.

Regardless of Wooten’s moralistic take, every good conservative knows that government should step in an punish this moral turpitude and flaunting on American values!!!

Brad Steel

October 6th, 2009
1:49 pm

Marc @ 1:18 The only people that can be blamed for the corporate “pillaging” is each and every stock holder, person that owns a 401K that did not take the time to do “due diligence” on what they we’re investing in.

Right-O, friend-O. Brilliant deduction. Certainly, every 401K investor should certainly have done the “due diligence” that would have easily shown them impending the mortgage bubble and the imploding housing market. Anyone who did any 401K “due diligence” would have seem the Lehman BK coming and profited handsomely off short positions in financials.

Easy-peasy lemon squeezie!!!

Rosita

October 6th, 2009
1:50 pm

Most of us have discovered that Whoopi Goldberg is a fake fake — her real name being Carin Johnson — so it figures that she wouldn’t consider drugging and forcible anal intercourse of a 13-year-old girl rape rape.
Naw, Carin — it’s rape rape rape. Now go back into your cage cage.

Liberal Idiocracy

October 6th, 2009
1:52 pm

Gold skyrockets as the dollar falls – due to wreckless Washington spending – and Arabs, the Chinese, Russia, and Japan seek to find another currency to trade oil on. Princess Babbling Pelosi – the woman who cried because Conservatives actually protested DemoCare – says taxes must be raised through the VAT to help lift the government and economy back up; yeah, in THIS economy mind you- raise taxes?? Don’t these idiotocrats know a thing about what makes up this economy, like 70% being consumer spending?

The credibility of the nearly trillion dollar porklulus bill was snafued by claims that all of the initial banks receiving bail out support were healthy. Now, a new report says that wasn’t so:

“Statements that are less than careful or forthright – like those made in this case – may ultimately undermine the public’s understanding and support,” the report said. “This loss of public support could damage the government’s credibility and have long-term unintended consequences that actually hamper the government’s ability to respond to crises.”

B-b-but we had to have that bill passed RIGHT NOW or suffer! And on that same thought now the Idiocrats are telling us that jobs will continue to be shed until well into next year. Watch for Idiocrat rhetoric on “saved jobs” during the next press conference or speech.

Afghanistan is sinking faster than the Public Option, and the Teleprompter Administration is upset at General McChrystal’s speech on Afghanistan – yeah, THAT general who commands the war effort there who got to speak with Obama only once until last week during the failed Olympics for Chicago cronies bid. Funny, I thought THAT was the war that was the “real” war and that Iraq was only a distraction when Bush was president. At least, that’s what the kook left always kept telling us. My have they shut up lately over Afghanistan or what? Record deaths this year month by month and not a peep out of one of them.

The left wing Congress passed The Credit Cardholder’s Bill of Rights Act of 2009, and now people are starting to wonder why they can’t get a credit card. This has hurt new high school and college grads hard who are trying to get their first credit card after graduation with no credit history. Unsolicitied applications sent mail by credit card companies have plummeted over 70%. People who used to simply have a job and stable work and residence history realize that no longer means anything.

How’s that for some of your “change” there, America?

Hillbilly Deluxe

October 6th, 2009
1:56 pm

Nothing anybody does surprises me anymore. I think that’s the sad thing.

Aqua Val

October 6th, 2009
2:01 pm

I would like to see Roman Polanski have the same “not really rape rape” thing happen to him in jail … We could call it “just good ol cell mate fun!

Marc

October 6th, 2009
2:09 pm

Brad Steel So it wasn’t apparent 2 years ago that the market was going to contract – especially housing? The adage what goes up must come down does that sound familiar.

LeeH1

October 6th, 2009
3:39 pm

The Hollywood people coming to the defense of Polanski is no different from the Republicans coming to the defense of Republican Congressmen and other Republican politicians caught with their hands in the cookie jar of both sexes, so the speak.

People protect their own from outside criticism, I suppose.

However, the Hollywood people are more moral, since they don’t criticize other people’s morals, they just defend their own. These same Republicans were the first ones to throw stones at others, especially Bill Clinton, when he was only doing what they were doing at the same time.

Thus, the Hollywood elite are more tolerant- the Republicans are more hypocritical. Whom did Christ love the least- the hypocrites or the tolerant?

Mutts R Dirty, Filthy Scum

October 6th, 2009
3:42 pm

Ah yes, Autism, a direct result of the poor breeding habits of the mother.

RetiredSoldier

October 6th, 2009
4:12 pm

LeeH1-

Does that apply to “I’m going to drain the swamp” Pelosi also? You know the speaker that was going to clean up Congress all by herself! Well Charlie Rangal certainly appreciates the good job Pelosi has done. Ye without sin cast the first stone.

AmVet

October 6th, 2009
4:24 pm

Marc, you are saying the victims of crime are responsible. No the criminals.

The new “free market” manta – Glorify the wicked and vilify the weak.

No wonder the fascists who run Wall Street and K Street have strolled off with OUR money.

Our “elected leaders” no longer even pretend to protect or represent us.

They know with an electorate like this they don’t even have to try…

Marc

October 6th, 2009
4:40 pm

No I am saying if you don’t understand it don’t invest in it. I’m saying spend more time learning about your investments than you do the box scores of the games or whats on TV. There was a time when it was much more difficult to gather this information but with the Internet it there with a few key strokes. If you don’t like the way the CEO is getting paid pull your stock or vote him out – your not the only one that thinks that way. Amvet as long as your prefer being the victim you will. The government is not there at least the fed to protect you from anything other than attacks by another nation and in some instances inter-state trade. IT IS NOT PART OF THE CONSTITUTION THEREFORE IT IS NOT THE FEDERALS GOVERNMENTS RESPONSIBILITY.

Joan

October 6th, 2009
7:08 pm

About Polanski, the person equally guilty with him is the 13 year old’s mother. No one has mentioned the failure of parental responsibility in this case. I am amazed by that. I raised a daughter, and do not believe I would have ever left her alone for a “photo shoot” with a man, while she was a minor. As for Hollywood, everyone knows they do live on another planet. They can vote Democrat, pay half their salaries in taxes, and still live on multi-millions. If I had a billion, I guess I wouldn’t mind paying more taxes either cause I would have plenty left over.

Joan

October 6th, 2009
7:11 pm

LeeHi–nobody did what Clinton did. He was after all the President at the time, and he did it in the Oval Office. That takes the cake. And believe me, plenty of Democrats have/do/did mess around. I used to live in DC and word gets around (but not as fast as those Congressmen!!).

Darrel

October 6th, 2009
7:21 pm

Enter your comments here
Well, Letterman finally shows to be the sleazebag that he always appeared to be. Damn, it must be hell when it all comes back around like it did for him. Wonder who he is going to malign next on his crappy, half-witted show. That’ll teach his wife to slum around, too, because she should have known what he was before she married him!

Brad Steel

October 7th, 2009
11:44 am

Marc @ 4:40
Thank you for a perfect demonstration of your pedantic ignorance.

Reality Check

October 7th, 2009
1:07 pm

Listen to the DNC media liberals jump for joy in victory over the latest poll [all 1,003 adults polled anyway] showing that those who approve and appose Democrat Healthcare reform are evenly split 40/40. Isn’t that so typical of the mindset of liberals in lib land: “we’re dead even so that means our side has won!” In the case of elections that they narrowly lost of course, it’s one of two things: it was a stolen election or it was some sort of victory because the election was stolen. This is the mindset of liberals.

Another hilarious thing happened in Detroit:

“DETROIT — Detroit’s homeless and low-income residents have another opportunity for a chance at millions of stimulus dollars. The money is available to help low-income residents from becoming homeless and homeless residents to find housing. Thousands of people lined up Tuesday. Some people in line falsely believed they were registering for $3,000 stimulus checks from the Obama Administration.” What a liberal socialism paradise, no? GIMMIE WHAT’S DUE TO ME!!! GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE!!!

The Chart O’Day reminds us of that brilliant cash for clunkers program dreamed up in liberal land:

http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-us-auto-sales-2009-10

Can’t wait to see more loans go into default by that useless feel good policy. Oh wait…..

“Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) — The number of U.S. lenders that can’t collect on at least 20 percent of their loans hit an 18-year high, signaling that more bank failures and losses could slow an economic recovery.”

And to think the pinheads running this nation for two years in Congress now and going on nine months in the White House now are still blaming the Bushies for their own failed policies. Sorry, Charlies, America doesn’t have the patience to listen to finger pointing with you people on the left at the helm running the US aground.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 7th, 2009
1:57 pm

Dear LeeH1 @ October 6th, 2009 3:39 pm, I think you have a weak argument: “Hollywood people are more moral, since they don’t criticize other people’s morals, they just defend their own.” An absence of moral standards is not a superior morality to those with even poor compliance with weak standards. Indeed, the opposite is the case – even a defective moral behavior is a superior morality to those with no moral standards. I appreciate your argument is a catechism mindlessly chanted by leftists; that repetition does not make it true. Four legs good, two legs bad.

Marc

October 7th, 2009
11:08 pm

Brad Steel so if you can’t defend your ideas you resort to attempted name calling. Or is the problem with comprehension? It really must be the comprehension because these two words don’t belong together “pedantic ignorance”. This saying that I have a pedestrian/normal/unimaginative/boring ignorance and that doesn’t realy make sense and isn’t much of and insult. Which would led one to believe that your trying to be verbose!