Run, Dick, run, and keep talking
Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:
Ah, it’s the old “some people say” routine, prized by opinionated journalists, academics and politicians caught expressing thoughts deemed to be offensive. Academics Keith Jennings and William Boone, authors of a memo that Big Name politicians called racist and bigoted for detailing how blacks could beat a popular white candidate and keep control of city hall, declared this week that they were merely relaying the thoughts of some unnamed blacks. “We would never suggest such a thing,” said Jennings.
Cities, counties and states rise to greatness – or don’t – because leaders emerge – or don’t – when they’re most needed. That was true of Atlanta with Ivan Allen, DeKalb County with Scott Candler and Cobb County with Ernest Barrett. And it’s true of Gwinnett County with the two Waynes – Wayne Hill and Wayne Shackelford, the latter of whom died this week at the age of 75. Shackelford was a visionary who also served Georgia well as Department of Transportation commissioner. The county leaders all put in infrastructure to accommodate growth, something Shackelford tried to do for Georgia, too.
The perception of crime in Atlanta is that somebody will kill an 80-year-old woman trying to work a job for $2. That can’t possibly be true.
A Gwinnett man allegedly slaps a stranger’s wailing 2-year-old at the Stone Mountain Wal-Mart. Make room in the rogue’s gallery, Michael Vick. Company’s coming.
Georgia’s budget problems have elicited class conduct from leaders. Members of the Georgia Supreme Court join Gov. Sonny Perdue in taking the unpaid furloughs that are being required of those who punch a time clock. Judges will take three unpaid days before the end of the year.
Cash for Clunkers, the $3 billion gift from unborn taxpayers to today’s consumers and auto companies, had big winners: Toyota, Honda and Nissan. The three, with 34 percent U.S. market share in the first seven months of 2009, sold 41 percent of the clunker-deal cars. Detroit, previously with 45 percent market share, sold 38.6. Ford, my favorite American nongovernment car company, did well. Its clunker-deal share was 14.4 percent, up from 13 percent market share.
Headline: “Lottery funds can’t keep up with HOPE.” Here’s an option: Parents could resort to a practice once popular among their parents and grandparents. They could save and thus reduce their dependency on government. It really shouldn’t be taxpayers’ obligation, anyway, to give book and fee subsidies to college students. The solution is not to be more inventive in finding ways to induce poor people to gamble.
Former Vice President Dick Cheney is the leader America needs again. Wonder if he’d consent to run again? Said he of the current attorney general’s decision to begin the process that could lead to criminal charges against CIA agents for interrogating suspected terrorists: “I just think it’s an outrageous precedent to set, to have this kind of, I think, intensely partisan, politicized look back at the prior administration.” Eric Holder’s decision is an “outrageous political act that will do great damage, long term.”
Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, seeking to undo an outrageous political act perpetrated by his state’s Democratic legislators to keep former Gov. Mitt Romney, a Republican, from picking the Senate successor to U.S. Sen. John Kerry when, God forbid, he would be elected president, now wants to change the law back to the way it was. That would let him pick a successor to Sen. Edward Kennedy. Voters will do that on Jan. 19. Almost everything politicians do for political advantage comes back to haunt their friends.
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Art at Large
September 3rd, 2009
8:17 pm
Dick Cheney IS NOT the type of President we need. We don’t need his brand of arrogance and hypocrisy any more.
He is a war criminal, a liar, an elitist, a torturer, and just plain creepy as all get out.
You think he cares about YOU? Only if you are just like him…and agree with him.
Otherwise, he’s willing to sell you out to people like Halliburton and KBR, or Chevron, or any other destructive but moneyed corporate interest.
He is the WORST of America…selfish, endlessly greedy, willing to savage anyone who disagrees with him, a liar of breathtaking depth and breadth, who knows what’s best for everyone else and they’ll do it his way and like it.
In short, he’s a monster…his potential running mate is a monster too. You betcha!
James
September 3rd, 2009
8:41 pm
Bush is one of the most loyal friends you can have, and even he stopped listening to Cheney in the end. That says a lot about what type of person Cheney really is.
An upstanding VP wouldn’t have anything to investigate even if partisans wanted to. Aside from that, Cheney sounds guilty. An innocent man doesn’t try to barricade an investigation or whine about precedent. He comes out and categorically denies all wrongdoing and he welcomes and investigation. He seems like he’s trying to find any excuse to stop an investigation, and you have to wonder why.
clyde
September 3rd, 2009
8:54 pm
Good evening,Jim,
I spell the word academics differently when it comes to people like Jennings and Boone.My word comes out looking like ‘idiota”.
Our country will not rise to greatness with the present leader.
What’s going through ones head when they kill an old lady for a measly $2?
I bought a new Ranger,Jim.Not through cash for clunkers though.I got a deal I couldn’t refuse.I still drive the old one.The bride has the new one.Ford’s a good company.
I put two through college.I was broke for a long while but it was worth it.
I am watching the maneuvering regarding Kennedy’s replacement.You know,Jim,that Kennedy was instrumental in having the rules changed when they thought Kerry was going to win and Romney would get to appoint a Republican replacement.He twisted a lot of arms to make it happen.Now the Dems want to go back to appointng to get another vote for healthcare.
Sorry,Jim,we disagree on Cheney.He’s one of the worst things to happen to America in years.He and George are solidly behind Obama being elected.They are responsible for the coming debacle.
Van Jones,Jim,no mention?Obama has quite a handful in his green czar.
Obama and Olympia are maybe trying to bang out an agreement on healthcare? She’s officially a 58% Republican.No more, no less.
Pat
September 3rd, 2009
10:00 pm
Oh, God, yes! What a wonderful idea! Please, PLEASE GOP, run Dick Cheney in 2012! You folks were right – you lost the election because because McCain wasn’t a “true” conservative. You’ve purged the party of moderates, and the true believers are ready to regain power! So I beg you, rally the base and give Cheney the nomination. If not Cheney, the dream ticket? Rush/Palin. And also,
pul-eeze don’t throw me in that briar patch! Old man Potter as the GOP’s dream Prez candidate? Don’t wake me, what a wonderful dream! Thanks Wooten, you made my day!
wheelbarrow of love
September 3rd, 2009
11:09 pm
Are you serious about Cheney for President ??!
Montgomery Burns
September 4th, 2009
12:05 am
Serious as a heart attack
Art at Large
September 4th, 2009
12:09 am
Which I would rather have.
BayouBengal
September 4th, 2009
4:53 am
Jim you’ve totally lost it. Dick Cheney was the biggest threat to the Constitution of these United States that ever held political office. Dick Cheney would have used the Department of Homeland Security to lock this country down like a jail. That draft dodging coward tried his best to totally destroy the 4th Amendment. Get a grip Jim.
BayouBengal
September 4th, 2009
4:59 am
Spot on James. And the guy still needs to get his reckoning for his role for allowing Scooter Libby to take the fall. A real man would have ridden his own heat. Dick Cheney is an immoral, unethical, draft dodging coward. If this man has one ounce of redeemable human value it is buried very very deep.
BayouBengal
September 4th, 2009
5:10 am
There is no doubt that Cheney was thinking of the influence he had over GWB when he concocted that scheme to retaliate against Valerie Plame’s husband. Scooter Libby is a lawyer. He knew the consequences of what he did. Scooter Libby just bought Cheney’s assurance that GWB would deliver a pardon if he were caught, tried, and convicted. Cheney screwed Libby. Patrick Fitzgerald knew Cheney was behind the whole thing but also knew that sorry Rasputin had given himself cover. It should have been Dick Cheney taking that perp walk. Not Scooter Libby. If there is justice in this country still, Dick Cheney will one day be held accountable. For sure God will give him what he deserves. No way in hell Dick Cheney makes it to heaven.
BayouBengal
September 4th, 2009
5:23 am
Jim found this on another blog. This is spot on and what you are asking for with Cheney. I disagree with you on some and agree with you on some as well. But the Cheney thing slays me. Where is your patriotism and love of freedom Jim. I would rather have an Obama healthcare plan than what Dick Cheney would do to this country as seen below. And the scary thing is those guys were serious in thinking that all of us were the enemy.
Azazel
September 3rd, 2009
11:38 pm
But it’s fine for G.W. Bush to sign an executive order to dissolve congress, and establish himself as protectorate, in time of an undefined emergency? And, for the NSA to wiretap your phones, follow your webprints and read your emails? And, for your neighbors, postman or others to turn you in as a terrorist? And that for 100 miles inland from sea and national borders you have “constitution free zones” where the 1st, 4th, 5th and 6th amendments are suspended?
You do not need to invent a bogeyman; the bogeyman is real and rose from among us in 2001
Road Scholar
September 4th, 2009
6:35 am
Cheney for President? Jim, you ARE ready for retirement!
Oh yeah, Jim, where were you when Bush took us to war with no way to pay for the war? The cash for clunkers did support an industry loosing jobs (was this the case for the defense industry?), but the proof of its worthyness is in the next months as we see what the sales for these companies do.
pat
September 4th, 2009
6:55 am
No. Dick Cheney is a jerk, a cowboy, and a moron. Sure he’d be better than obama, but most options are.
Yankee
September 4th, 2009
7:03 am
So Jim is against the Kia plant and all the jobs it brings Georgia?
Toby
September 4th, 2009
7:09 am
Great idea Jim!
CHENEY / PALIN 2012! From a Dyed in the Wool Southern Democrat.
clyde
September 4th, 2009
7:12 am
Good morning Jim,
Looks like we were wrong.The child slapper is being billed as a harmless loner.When his case finally makes it to the supreme cout,Sotomayer’s empathy will set him free.
I have to agree with Cynthia Tucker,[choke].Her opening line anyway,where she say’s ,”shut up Levi”.I didn’t read beyond there,so I don’t know to what lengths she was willing to go.
It’s a sunny day here ,Jim,and it’s somewhere around the 3750th day of retirement for me.Today I’m going to go learn all about installing rubber shingles.Looks like an interesting project.
jconservative
September 4th, 2009
7:18 am
James September 3rd, 2009 8:41 pm
“Bush is one of the most loyal friends you can have, and even he stopped listening to Cheney in the end. That says a lot about what type of person Cheney really is.”
Excellent point James. I did not agree with Bush on much of anything, he was way to liberal for me, but his actions re Cheney speak louder than any words ever could.
catlady
September 4th, 2009
7:19 am
HOPE is NOT funded by taxpayers. It is funded mostly by can’t-afford-it, down-on-their-luck, get-rich-quick types. The antithesis of those who would put in effort for 4 years (or more!) to get a degree and have a shot at a good job and hard work. In itself, HOPE does not cost the taxpayers. They ARE on the hook, however, if HOPE encourages EXTRA kids to go to college (more than would already), as taxpayers subsidize about $12,000 per year for each student who goes to UGA or GT (less at other schools). However, sadly, although HOPE was supposed to cause more kids to go to college, it has generally merely shifted the destination of the already college-bound. It HAS been a boon to tech school attendance.
Buzz G
September 4th, 2009
7:26 am
Dick Cheney has the same kind of clarity of thought and speech that Ronald Reagan had. And it infuriated his enemies. Don’t you know that a leader expressing conservative thought is supposed to be labeled as extreme and dangerous by the media. Yet R. Reagan won the cold war and set about the events that gave us a decade of great economy. If you are looking for dangerous and extreme, you only have to look at the current occupant of the White House. His manic drive to socialism and cozying up to the dictators of the world will give us a decade of high unemployment, higher inflation and put us at risk in a world where every aggressive, loud-mouth dictator has a nuclear arsenal. It will be a dangerous world indeed that we leave our children.
Aquagirl
September 4th, 2009
7:42 am
Dick Cheney for President? The guy who thought he was his own branch of government? That dude needs to crawl back under his rock. I agree, G.W. Bush may have his faults, but his loyalty to friends is legendary, in an admirable way. If Cheney alienated him the former V.P. must be utterly lacking in any redeeming qualities.
@ Catlady, if it’s a revenue collected by the State, it’s a tax. I have no idea why this is such a difficult concept. Is the tax you pay on a bottle of wine dismissed as “funding by a pathetic drug user?” Just because the lottery attracts *stupid* taxpayers does not mean HOPE scholarship money is not taxes.
sharecropper
September 4th, 2009
7:49 am
Oh, yeah. Run, Dick, run. It would be a blowout for Obama, Wooten. (And I assume you are not paid for these online columns, since like a lot of washed up newspaper men you still think you have something important to say.) But let him run. Please let him run. It would be taken off the board by oddsmakers in Nevada. Please, dear god, let him run.
Michael H. Smith
September 4th, 2009
8:21 am
Lottery: Another recital from First Wooten 1:1: Thou shalt not gamble!
Though Wooten’s new found affection for the poor is admirable any suggestion to preference the poor in allocating lottery sponsored scholarships would certainly meet with the same old tired neo-con cliches of they should have made better choices and better investments with their pitiful lives. Unfortunately dearest Jim, “generational poverty” has too few choices and too little hope for those born into it, to think of anything other than betting against the longest of life’s possible odds.
Then again, given this cited propensity among the poor gullible souls of your lament Rev. Wooten, the lottery may be the best way to force a group that would otherwise never save a dime, who can least afford to suffer the risk of losing a penny, though foolishly willing to venture their last earthly dollar, to win at the only that is game rigged to benefit them the most.
Just think of it as a form “forced tithing” for the poor gullible poor to the lesser god of education whose providence is a proven means to deliver social justice and equality in breaking the bonds of generational poverty, where society’s gambling in the basement of First Church of the Unholy Nanny State that has betting on welfare checks and food stamps to redeem poor gullible poor from generational poverty has been a guaranteed loosing game for all participants: Save the government and the unseemly eternal dependence upon it.
Cheney: No time or place for a third termer.
Massachusetts: Here’s to a Massachusetts ghost story come true.
Obama: No time left for this one termer and his socialist thugs – I mean Czars.
BayouBengal
September 4th, 2009
8:27 am
BuzzG there is and was nothing conservative about Dick Cheney’s thoughts. Dick Cheney’s “thoughts” are more suited for a place like Venezuela or Cuba. Dick Cheney hates our constitution. It stood between him and his desire to bring every person in this country under the thumb of a totalitarian state. To GWB’s credit he finally saw Dick Cheney as the threat to our freedom and liberty that he is. I hope when Dick Cheney dies and arrives in hell his space in the oven is lined with pictures of Cynthia McKinney.
PinkoNeoConLibertarian
September 4th, 2009
8:48 am
Mr. Wooten. Up the voltage. Those shock treatments will get you there eventually.
Shar
September 4th, 2009
8:49 am
Dick Cheney did more damage to our Constitution than has any American executive, ever. He’s not a conservative, he’s a fascist, and he serves only money and power. A vicious, souless monster. I have no idea why the media continues to cover his remarks – he should be left to rot in isolation.
Lottery funds are collected by the Georgia Lottery Corporation, not the state, and are not taxes because they are not a forced collection. However, the state taxes that Georgians must pay, and which are the primary funding for our public university system, do contribute the lion’s share of educational costs for every student. When the money is spent to prepare young Georgians to become productive, inventive members of their society, it is the best investment of taxpayer dollars to be had. When it provides million dollar payouts for Georgia’s bloated football program (which, athletic donations or not, does not come close to paying for itself) to go beat up on bunny schools, people should be fired.
My Friday fantasy? A football-free Georgia. Hey, those of us who don’t appreciate the subtleties of two sets of thugs smashing into each other have put up with, and paid for, the enjoyment of those of you who do for a long, long, long time. How ’bout we put all of that money into something interesting, like competitive debate, for an equal amount of time?
"Charles", The Original
September 4th, 2009
8:58 am
When I learned a Stone Mountain man allegedly slapped a stranger’s 2-year-old several times at the local Wal-Mart, there was no doubt in my mind that conservative Americans would once again rise to the occasion and come to the rescue. History shows that conservative Americans have come to the rescue of babies in times of distress. Many pro-life conservatives have sacrificed life, liberty, and property so that babies could live. And greater love hath no man than this that a man lay down his life for his friends. But much more should and must do more. 4000 babies are aborted each day in the United States.
The so-called educated integrationist Negroes and women who won’t repent are expressing the height of hypocrisy when their voices are heard chastising Roger Stephens for cruelty to children. Both are more disgusting than he. Both condone the practice of abortion. And if asked should babies have a right to life, through commission the answer is no. A supporter of “choice” presents the opportunity for immoral doctors to use surgical instruments for the purpose of suctioning the brains from the heads of babies in the womb if called upon. They’ve been called upon fifty million times since 1973, Roe vs. Wade. And the greatest percentages of aborted babies are Negroes. It’s not difficult to see a spiritual connection between the condoning of the murder of Negro babies in the womb via “choice” and the murder of Negro children in the streets of the United States.
Absence of repentance, any right thinking person will conclude that the voices of the so-called educated integrationist Godless Negroes and women should remain silent with respect to Roger Stephens. Both have worse character than he. When those dark voices are heard criticizing Roger Stephens for cruelty to children, it’s a demonstration of the height of hypocrisy.
Hippocratic Oath:
I swear by Apollo the physician, and Asclepius, and Hygieia and Panacea and all the gods and goddesses as my witnesses, that, according to my ability and judgement, I will keep this Oath and this contract:
To hold him who taught me this art equally dear to me as my parents, to be a partner in life with him, and to fulfill his needs when required; to look upon his offspring as equals to my own siblings, and to teach them this art, if they shall wish to learn it, without fee or contract; and that by the set rules, lectures, and every other mode of instruction, I will impart a knowledge of the art to my own sons, and those of my teachers, and to students bound by this contract and having sworn this Oath to the law of medicine, but to no others.
I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgement, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.
I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.
In purity and according to divine law will I carry out my life and my art.
I will not use the knife, even upon those suffering from stones, but I will leave this to those who are trained in this craft.
Into whatever homes I go, I will enter them for the benefit of the sick, avoiding any voluntary act of impropriety or corruption, including the seduction of women or men, whether they are free men or slaves.
Whatever I see or hear in the lives of my patients, whether in connection with my professional practice or not, which ought not to be spoken of outside, I will keep secret, as considering all such things to be private.
So long as I maintain this Oath faithfully and without corruption, may it be granted to me to partake of life fully and the practice of my art, gaining the respect of all men for all time. However, should I transgress this Oath and violate it, may the opposite be my fate.
RetiredSoldier
September 4th, 2009
9:23 am
Art at large- Sounds to me you are everything you accuse Cheney of being. Take a chill pill and call the doctor in the morning.
jconservative
September 4th, 2009
9:28 am
“Charles”, The Original September 4th, 2009
8:58 am
Nice column from the perspective of a big government liberal. We do not often get comments from the big government liberal perspective.
You must be a fan of Sean Hannity as he seems to be the leader of big government liberalism.
But I will remain a small government political conservative as I have been for the past 49 years.
RetiredSoldier
September 4th, 2009
9:29 am
Bayou Bengal- “immoral, unethical, draft dodging coward” Hmmm would you include Bill Clinton with Cheney? You need to join Art and chill out.
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RetiredSoldier
September 4th, 2009
9:41 am
Shar- “Cheney did more damage to our constitution….no idea why the media covers his remarks…” Now who wants to damage the constitution Shar? Ever heard of the 1st Amendment? I recommend you read it. Join Art and Bayou on the chill couch please.
Diogenes
September 4th, 2009
9:42 am
Good morning, Jim,
I’ve come to expect outrageous remarks from your Friday flirtation with, but I think you’ve outdone yourself with your remarks about Cheney. Why would anyone, even you, want him anywhere near government after the damage he and our last conservative president inflicted on us? Hopefully Mr. Holder’s investigation will find the thread which leads back to Cheney’s office and that administration will finally slink off in the shame it so ripely deserves. Do you have to emulate Glenn Beck to draw a paycheck these days? Please go back to your gardening; the sky will not fall until the Georgia General Assembly goes into session.
catlady
September 4th, 2009
9:49 am
Aquagirl, the state does not collect the money. The lottery corporation does. It is not considered a state agency; it is a chartered entity, given permission to operate a monoply.
BayouBengal
September 4th, 2009
10:03 am
RetiredSoldier
September 4th, 2009
9:29 am
Bayou Bengal- “immoral, unethical, draft dodging coward” Hmmm would you include Bill Clinton with Cheney? You need to join Art and chill out
Yes I would when it comes to the avoidance of service. But when it comes to the damage that Dick Cheney did to this country and the damage he would have done had GWB not finally seen him for what he was, Clinton can’t touch him. We all know that Clinton didn’t like the military but Dick Cheney despised the constitution. It got in his way. Bill Clinton was nothing compared to Dick Cheney when it comes to an agenda of totalitarian control over an entire nation.
And btw RetiredSoldier, I am a West Point grad and retired after 23 years of service. I have seen ideas and tactics just like Dick Cheney’s in places no American would never want to live. Besides that there is nothing I despise more than a chicken hawk. And in that regard Dick Cheney is certainly the biggest rooster in the barnyard. Not to mention the fox in the hen house when VP.
So RetiredSoldier you have your opinion and I have mine. In spite of Dick Cheney we still have that right.
RetiredSoldier
September 4th, 2009
10:20 am
BayouBengal-
I never implied you didn’t have a right to your opinion, just be consistent in your comments. What I took from your last post was Clinton was a draft dodger but not immoral or unethical. How anyone would think Clinton was moral, womem in every bedroom and ethical, remenber selling pardons (Mark Rich)on the way out of the White House and taking half the furnishing of the White House with them to New York? Come on guy your guy was terrible, confession is good for the soul.
BTW, not a West Pointer, just your common run of the mill ROTC graduate. Been to those same places you spoke of and no I would never compare them to America. Those are the people that would give anything to COME to America. Remember, people vote with their feet, How many want to come to America and how many want to leave? Funny, the vote seems to lean stongly to the pro-America voter.
"Charles", The Original
September 4th, 2009
10:35 am
jconservative,
If you read my post and conclude that I’m a liberal, or a supporter of big government liberalism etc, there’s very little I can do to convince you otherwise. You are either bordering on insanity or like the so-called educated integrationist Negroes, you are downright disingenuous.
Jim Callihan
September 4th, 2009
11:30 am
Having not read much of your blogs before now, I cannot tell your style of implied demeanor, t.i.c. wit, etc. With that said, as a 15-election-voting GOP’er, I can only hope to dear God in heaven that you are being provocative and NOT serious about Richard Chainmailley. If there is anyone on Earth who could school the Clintons on using political influence to make a frickin mint – it’s Dick. Connect the dots: Unocal+Afghanistan;Saudi Oil+Al Queda…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8uKvDf3XdQ
& “House of Saud” is a pretty good primer on how destabilization occurred when the SA/US partners betrayed the indigenous/displaced people of the area. Some people still take oaths and “agreements” serious…DEAD SERIOUS.
And I have nothing but utter disdain for a coward, who having never served, placed those Americans who do – in grave danger…and all of us really, in retaliatory danger with his blatant disregard for law. Draped in a flag, this maggot talks of “National Security”.
Dude. WAKE TFU!!! I did.
RetiredSoldier
September 4th, 2009
12:34 pm
Jim-
I am going to assume you are responding to my posts. I am not suggesting Cheney run again for office, I am suggesting if there is something bad or “evil” about Cheney, be prepared to sling those same arrows at Clinton, Obama etc.
Much has been made about the Halibuton/Cheney connection and no bid contracts. Do you know when those started? Yes my friend under Clinton and our involvement in the Balkans. Why then and why Haliburton I am sure you are now asking? The reason is Clinton stripped our Army to the point we could not sustain a force projected into a distant area. Haliburton via Brown and Root were smart enough and proactive enough to develop a logistics capability to support military deployments. That is/was smart business. Any other company could have done the same thing.
So Cheney is a coward? Is that because he did not serve in the military and he sent unifom members into harm’s way? Does that make Clinton a coward? Does that make FDR a coward? You can’t be serious. I guess Obama is a coward too by that standard. Our political leaders will increasingly be elected w/o military service on their resume. If prior military service is a requirement then I suggest “retired soldier” for President. Press release to follow.
Dr. Marti Hernandez Rojas
September 4th, 2009
12:39 pm
Dick Cheney is the leader America never needed in the first place.
retiredds
September 4th, 2009
1:15 pm
I have the perfect ticket: Dick Cheney for President, Sarah Palin VP, Rush Limbaugh Press Secy., Hannity Secy of Labor, Ann Coulter Ambassor to the UN, Alberto Gonzalez, Cheney’s pick to be on the Supreme Court, GA State Sen. Chip Richardson, Secy of the Treasury, GA Rep Broun Secy of Health, Gov. Sonny Perdue, Secy of Transportation … ahhhh what a dream team. Too bad we have to wait only 8 – 16 years for this to happen.
Shar
September 4th, 2009
1:15 pm
Retired Soldier: Had I said “The media should be prohibited from covering Cheney’s remarks”, that would have promoted violating the First Amendment – and would have fit right in with Cheney’s preferred bag of tricks. I said I don’t know why they bother, but I also don’t know why we are given updates on similar people of hideous intent and little current relevance, such as Charles Manson, Eric Rudolph or Bill Campbell. At least two of them are indeed left to rot in isolation.
As for my statement that Cheney inflicted more damage to the Constitution than any other executive, ever – and sought to do considerably more – I stand by that unequivically.
Baghdad Bob Idiocrat Libtard
September 4th, 2009
1:52 pm
Why do the Idiocrat libtards keep drooling over Cheney, Bushie, Coulter, Rush, Hannity, Palin, etc.? What are these mindless cowardcrats so scared of? Their own failures?
Let’s see here: “WASHINGTON – The unemployment rate jumped almost half a point to 9.7 percent in August, the highest since 1983, reflecting a poor job market that will make it hard for the economy to begin a sustained recovery.”
Boy. I sure am glad Bidenplugs is telling us the stimulus is working, aren’t you? I’d sure as hell hate to see if it WASN’T working. Here’s another brilliant moment in Baghdad Bobocrat world (for you short bus Obamabots, Baghdad Bob was the Iraq minister who said there are no American forces in Baghdad when you could hear the tanks rolling in the background): “An opponent of government healthcare programs had part of a finger bit off during a fight at a pro-healthcare-reform rally this week in Thousand Oaks.
William Rice, 65, of Newbury Park was with a small group of counter-protesters at a vigil Wednesday night organized by Moveon.org when a man bit off part of his left pinky finger during a scuffle, authorities said. Doctors were unable to reattach Rice’s finger.”
Wow. All we ever hear about is how radical/dangerous/violent those old farts are in town hall meetings! No Idiocrat libtard could EVER be violent, right? How about some more idiocy from the pathetic left? How about Obama’s Green Nazi…err I mean Czar (good little Idiocrat Marxist) callling Republicans a**holes? Didn’t these same dirtballs on the left wet their panties when Cheney said something similar?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/02/obamas_green_jobs_czar_van_jones_republicans_are_aholes.html
Yeah, that’s the same Van Jones who said white people are dumping sewage into black neighborhoods. And this Idiocrat and his goons are wanting to have Glenn Beck taken off the air for so-called “hate speech.” You’ve GOT to be f’ing kidding me. This is also the same Idiocrat libtard who is part of this movement:
“Van Jones, the Special Advisor for Green Jobs at the White House Council on Environmental Quality, is Number 46 of the petitioners from the so-called “Truther” movement which suggests that people in the administration of President George W. Bush “may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war.”
You Moronocrats are getting more and more PATHETIC every day. My advice: just keep shifting further to the libtard left.
Oh, and for the rest of you good Americans, pull your kids the hell out of school the day Obama wants to push his DumocratCare down their small gullets. “What can you do to help the president.” Uhm, I don’t THINK so.
Well, all my fellow Conservative Republicans, have a good long and safe Labor Day weekend! For those worthless Idiocrat libtard pathetics on the kook left out there, I don’t give a rat’s a-s-s what they do.
BayouBengal
September 4th, 2009
2:56 pm
RetiedSoldier, the difference in Clinton’s immorality and Cheney’s is light years apart. Getting a bj from Monica or watching a cigar show can’t come close to what Dick Cheney wants to do with our constitution. Dick Cheney wanted take our freedom and call it keeping us free. Bill Clinton was immoral yes. But his immorality couldn’t take our freedom. Bill Clinton got impeached for lying about sex. Dick Cheney has yet to be held accountable for the damage he has done to our constitution.
RetiredSoldier
September 4th, 2009
3:02 pm
Shar-
You compare a former president of the United States to Charles Manson. That is completely absurd and disrespectful to our country. I strongly disagree with the polices of Obama, to a lesser extent Clinton and particularly to Bush’s lack of control on spending. But I would never compare one of our nations leaders to a person like Charles Manson. My friend, you are in need of an entire bottle of chill pills.
RetiredSoldier
September 4th, 2009
3:15 pm
BayouBengal- A great president and strong supporter of the military once said “There you go again…” That applies here also, there you go again. Let me see if I understand you correctly, Clinton’s immorality was both illegal and proven and Cheney’s immoral acts are your opinion and a result of legislation that many liberals, moderates and conservatives voted for in the wake of 9/11. In addition, no court has found the legislation unconstitutional nor did a democratic Congress attempt to impeach Cheney. Your anger is misplaced, Pelosi and Reid should bear the brunt of your anger.
BTW, are you as upset that Obama wants neighbors to “rat” on friends to the White House if the tell “untruths” about health care? Thought not.
Shar
September 4th, 2009
3:27 pm
Retired, let’s see. Delusional, vicious, self-obsessed, lawless, claiming unlimited power before the faithful few enablers and now, thankfully, irrelevant – not ringing any bells for you?
RetiredSoldier
September 4th, 2009
3:41 pm
Shar-
That may or may not be true, but that does not add up to Charles Manson. We can disagree with our elected leaders, but we should never make those kind of comparisons. It would be instructive though for you to give concrete examples of delusional, vicious, self-obsessed, lawless, and when he claimed unlimited powers. Please not your opinion but proven facts please.
I suspect a good conservative could use their opinion and find examples of those same traits in Obama/Clinton.
retiredds
September 4th, 2009
3:46 pm
Shar @3:27, couldn’t have said it better myself.
Baghdad Bob…. if you equate sarcasm with drooling, well need I say more. And by the way what school of economics do you subscribe to? After 38+ years of deficit spending the large illusion bubble (a government, a state, a company, an individual can borrow forever without consequences) has burst. So in your immutable position where should the unemployment rate be, and in what year in the future will it get back to the post-war norm of 4.7-5.0 percent. And in your reply please don’t the words, “liberal”, “conservative”, Republican, or Democrat, they don’t carry any weight anymore because of over use and misuse.
BayouBengal
September 4th, 2009
3:53 pm
RetiredSoldier you betcha I don’t like any program that encourages neighbors to spy on neighbors. They do that in Cuba. Bush/Cheney attempted to duplicate that program with TIPS. And damn right I’ll take a philanderer over someone that only the most ignorant among us can’t see was systematically dismantling our precious constitution. You know the document. The one that keeps us free. Screw safety. Give up freedom for safety and you are reduced to nothing but sheep. And obviously there are a lot of sheep around here. Want Dick Cheney as your shepherd? He’d just use you for his own purposes and then throw you to the wolves. Just like he did his “friend” Scooter Libby. To each his own RetiredSoldier. I don’t want Cheney. You can have him.
RetiredSoldier
September 4th, 2009
4:42 pm
BayouBengal-
Not to beat a dead horse to death but, you didn’t comment on my point that you are upset with laws passed by Congress and signed by the President and not found unconstitutional by any court. If this is as bad as you seem to think, you have an overwhelming liberal hate anything Cheney Congress, have the law changed. What is so difficult with that?
BTW the way, Obama does not want those laws changed. Shhh, please don’t tell anyone.