Are politicians afraid of us?

Thank goodness those who turned out to question the health care legislation that’s being quickly and aggressively pushed through Congress by Democrats and the Obama Administration weren’t un-American.

    Instead, they were described in the morning’s AJC as “civil, polite” and “asking smart questions,” thus offering “a lesson to the rest of the nation on how civil discourse doesn’t have to spiral into civil disobedience.” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer would be pleased. On Monday, the two had asserted that the behavior of those who disrupted the health care meetings was “simply un-American.”

    At the DeKalb meeting with Democratic Congressman Hank Johnson, three people were tossed after “a brief outburst.” Organizers “made it clear that groww misbehavior was not acceptable” and attendees were forced to pass through metal detectors, permissable language was spelled out and good behavior was enforced by “a large police presence.”

    Harken back to the days of the civil rights movement where a segment of the population believed that they were powerless to influence the politicians and other authorities who controlled all levers of government.

    Politicians and controlling authorities attempted precisely the kind of control that was the law of the land in DeKalb. You can speak a certain way. You can’t be rude. You can’t misbehave or come with props that attract the attention of television cameras. And the meeting would be judged on whether a sufficient police presence had been assembled to enforce the organizers’ desired course of events and discussion.

    Congress is ramming through legislation that could radically change our health care system. Opponents who don’t think they’re being heard or who don’t think full and honest debate is occurring at the national level have every right to protest as they see fit. Congressman Hank Johnson of DeKalb County will vote for the bill, period. All Democrats in the Georgia delegation will, with the possible exception of the two who are vulnerable to challenge: U.S. Rep. Jim Marshal of Macon and U.S. Rep. John Barrow of Savannah.

    Meanwhile, constituents in Congressman Hank Johnson’s district all get smiley faces for good behavior. They have behaved as police authorities and the politician’s organizers desired. An organizer who runs his constituents through metal detectors at a public policy debate is afraid of the people he serves. That is not America.

    185 comments Add your comment


    August 11th, 2009
    8:00 am

    There can be no “debate” about any issue in this country anymore. The reason is two competing corporations Democrat Inc. and Republican Inc. control Washington and they don’t cooperate. At all. Ever. Their business is not governing. Their business is winning elections and raising money.

    And, you, Wooten, rather than condemn this damnable situation, participate gleefully. Shame on you. Shame on them. And God help us all. Our country is lost.


    August 11th, 2009
    8:15 am

    Rep. Marshall is vulnerable, especially in the northern part of his district. After getting a letter from him stating he has gotten 4000 letters a month since Obama’s inauguration back in May that basically told me that Rep. Marshall wanted me to leave him alone.

    Big mistake. The letters, e-mails, and phone calls (all civil of course) has only intensified.


    August 11th, 2009
    8:31 am

    “Harken back to the days of the civil rights movement where a segment of the population believed that they were powerless to influence the politicians and other authorities who controlled all levers of government.”

    That’s exactly where we are with today’s govt, except I think everyone on all sides of any given argument feel that way. Exasperations & behavior will only get worse as congress has gone totally tone deaf of its constituents. Pelosi’s declaration re mob mentality of the opposition is no more rational or credible than was Nixon’s.

    People must shout to be heard because no one in Washington listening. If they were (listening) we wouldn’t have TARP, auto industry bailouts, cash for clunkers, illegal immigration at current levels, et al. Get a glove, Nancy, and get in the game.

    El Cid

    August 11th, 2009
    8:31 am

    Count me among those pulling for “radical” health care reform to be “rammed through”, because I’ve been watching the failure of health care reform, leading to our currently insanely, “radically” bad and inefficient health insurance system, for a generation now.

    There was a bit more Republican support for the original 1965 Social Security reforms which created Medicare, but back then, there were more elected Republicans than the hardest right wing of the Party. But had fewer Republican Senators voted with LBJ in 1965, we still should have passed it, no matter how many faux ‘grassroots’ nitwits were calling it Communist or whatever.

    Conservatives should show up and protest, and admittedly they’re a bit new to it all and a bit rusty because they’ve spent too many decades slurring any liberal protesters as crazy anti-Americans and “get a job” and other crap I’ve heard.

    But if you’re a bunch of crazy types out there thinking anyone’s afraid of your nonsense and that hooting and hollerin’ will askeer us poor libs, let me remind you: you lost the last two elections badly, and no matter how much you’ve convinced yourself that your tiny Southern strongholds will lead a revolution in 2010 and 2012, you’re more than likely going to lose this battle.

    And if Democrats maintain enough guts to pass something decent, then as the law begins to act and individuals and businesses begin to see and feel the benefits, to drop the fear that health problems will bankrupt them or that their health insurance company will find any excuse to drop their coverage when it’s needed, etc., that’s when you’re really going to be electorally in trouble.

    Because people will remember who backed and who opposed the reform, and who had absolute power 2002 – 2006 and did nothing to improve health care and who actually accomplished something within the first year after the 2008 elections.


    August 11th, 2009
    8:34 am

    WOW Mac………. YOU Hit the nail on the head !

    And with guys in office like Mark Sanford in Office ripping off the American Public, no wonder there is getting to be zero trust in government !

    Get Real

    August 11th, 2009
    8:47 am

    Weren’t those who protested the Iraq War deemed to be un-patriotic by you Wooten? And you say protesters should be able to act how they may; be it rude or misbehavin’? Is that how you always want things, or only public matters that you oppose? When Cindy Sheehan and Code Pink act out, were you supportive of their actions? I doubt it.

    I have no problem with the protesters. They’re fighting against their own self-interests, but thats their choice. If health care reform doesn’t pass, 4 years from now these same people will be crying about the rising health costs. I have health insurance through my job, and see the hundreds of dollars that come out of every pay check whether anyone in my family receives medical care or not. Its a shell game, because insurers are only concerned with profit and have no incentive to lower costs. Republicans claim that expanding the number of insurers will accomplish this, but had 6 years to turn this policy into action and did nothing. I’m paying for the care of the uninsured through higher insurance costs. That isn’t free enterprise or personal responsibility. My stance is you either expand health care coverage to ALL, or pass legislation that restricts insurers, hospitals, doctors, and other health care organizations from passing the costs of providing care to the uninsured on to me.


    August 11th, 2009
    8:48 am

    I did not see Pelosi condemining any protestors during the anti-Bush rallies. That makes her nothing more than a partisan hypocrite. There is nothing anti-American about having a free voice.

    Sorry Peter. Sanford is scum, but he is not part of this arguement, but instead a way for you to show your disgust for Republicans while praising a post that appears to fault both parties.


    August 11th, 2009
    8:52 am

    This thing will take 5 years to be implemented. There is no way they can put a Government run debacle like this into action any sooner than that. So, we have time and we will be voting again soon.
    I hope this doesn’t turn into a mess like the cash for clunkers has. One of my closest friends is a Ford Dealer and he says this clunker program is an absolute joke, but he is taking the money from the clowns who authorized it. I can only guess that a government run healthcare program will turn into an absolute disaster. Where did our Country go?


    August 11th, 2009
    9:04 am

    Jim, based on this article I would believe that you are entirely satisfied with the pending mountain of payroll deductions your kids & grandkids will be paying to support the 30 million boomers on Soc Sec, Medicare & Medicaid in the next 20 years. Medical cost are increasing at the rate of 12% per annum & we will add 20 million old folks to the public dole in the next 20 years. But this is OK & does not need to be changed, correct?


    August 11th, 2009
    9:12 am

    No more pre-existing conditions will keep me from getting the same insurance as everybody else? Then why don’t I just wait until I get sick and THEN apply for health insurance?

    I’ll tell you why. Because the government will make everybody take out health insurance from the start. How? They will go into my bank account and take the money for for the premiums.

    Read the bill if you don’t believe me.


    August 11th, 2009
    9:13 am

    Where did our country go? Why we great Neocons eviscerated the constitution, bankrupted the economy, let “free enterprise” run un-regulated to rape and pillage, ran “my d*ck is bigger than your d*ck wars”, committed torture, and basically sh*t on the ideals of the nations founders. THATS where the country went.


    August 11th, 2009
    9:54 am

    In 1776 the demonstrations got a tad rude also.We the people have loaned the government to the clowns in power and they have ruined same.It’s time we revoked their priviledge to rule.We need the politicians to be ousted and replaced with citizens that understand the country we live in.


    August 11th, 2009
    9:59 am

    Where’s Saxby? Is he having town hall meetings to listen to the taxpayers?

    Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST

    August 11th, 2009
    10:00 am

    Saxby is out playing golf with insurance LOBBYIST. There is lots of money to be made out of this mess.

    JC in Powder Springs

    August 11th, 2009
    10:02 am

    According to the AJC front page story, two of the people opposing healthcare reform who attended Representative Johnson’s town hall meeting last night, Mr. Barbour and Mr. Bright, aren’t even from Johnson’s district!! Why aren’t they attending meetings in their own districts and complaining to their own congressmen? I believe these two jerks went to the meeting with the intended purpose of disrupting things as much as possible. I’m very pleased Rep. Johnson outsmarted them.

    As far as pushing through healthcare reform quickly and aggressively, put me down as being all for it. Our current system sucks! It the lousiest healthcare system of any advanced country in the world. It shifts money from actual healthcare to middlemen. Millions go without any healthcare at all. Every day we keep the current system, is another day we waste millions of dollars.


    August 11th, 2009
    10:17 am

    For those supporters of Goverment Healthcare; You want to experience Government Healthcare first hand, trying living in England under the socialized healthcare system. I worked for the National Health System for 5 years and have grandparents and relatives that live under that piece of crap healthcare system. I witnessed first hand the terrible waste of money and inefficiencies that come with Government runned healthcare. If you think that it will be any different, if implemented here, you are sadly mistaken.


    August 11th, 2009
    10:25 am

    This whole debate on health care would make one think that the only two choices out there are do nothing, or accept the plan as written. I do not think this is the case. I know some democrats who want reform but do not agree with everything in the bill, and most conservatives I know are resigned to the fact that there will be some changes and cost will go up. The WHO ranking is not a condemnation of the entire system. The only two areas where the US is substantially marked down are overall medical costs, and accessability. Since these are weighted heavily, this drags the US from near the top, to near the bottom.

    Why can’t we have a plan which addresses these issues without throwing out the whole system? On the accessibility side, create a plan for the approx. 25 million without a plan and who cannot afford one.

    On the cost side, if there is a way to cut 500 million out of Medicare and Medicaid, Do it. If there are other ways to save cost, do them as well. These things can be done without controlling the entire system and throwing the good things such as technology out the window out the window.


    August 11th, 2009
    10:33 am

    Jim, is FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER the only “weapon” you silly WingNutters have left in your arsenals? Or is that the only emotion y’all can feel as well as express?


    August 11th, 2009
    10:35 am

    BTW, when does Kyle WingNutKid take off the training wheels and start allowing commenting? A wonderful example of those Strong, Brave “Conservatives” y’all’ve got there…

    F22 Guy

    August 11th, 2009
    10:36 am

    If Saxby had done his job & saved the F22, he would have got enough money that he would not need to take more from the insurance companies. The insurance companies need to be careful with Saxby you don’t always get what you pay for.

    Churchill's MOM

    August 11th, 2009
    10:39 am


    August 11th, 2009
    10:35 am

    The Wingboy is NOT a CONSERVATIVE he is just another Republican hack. The AJC bought a low cost Rush.


    August 11th, 2009
    10:41 am

    Clear all the members of Congress need to run their town halls like George W. Bush did: permit only hand-picked supporters asking pre-scripted and screened questions.


    August 11th, 2009
    10:44 am


    And how long is Cynthia going to use her training wheels?


    August 11th, 2009
    10:50 am

    Quick question – who is Kyle WingNutKid?

    GayGrayGreek – Nancy Pelosi is a wonderful example for you liberals.


    August 11th, 2009
    11:07 am

    Cynthia McKin … er, rather, Tucker will never, ever blog. You read it here first.


    August 11th, 2009
    11:23 am

    What a beautiful sight! Nine short months after the republicans got their butts kicked, the embarrassment of their huge loss has gone away and now turned to anger.

    The 10 step program Republicans will have to go through before they accept the reality of their humiliating defeat.

    one- Embarrassment

    two- Anger

    three- Confusion

    four- Hysteria

    five- More Anger

    six- Denial

    seven- Depression

    eight- Anger

    nine- Paranoia

    ten- Funny Farm, (acceptance.)

    60-40 senate, massive House majority, presidency. Thats gotta hurt! Reality probably isn’t the best place for a Republican right now. You know the turn of events have turned a lot of Republicans stark raving mad.

    Ironic too! Out of all the talk of change Obama has given us it turns out that it is the Republicans that have changed the most under Obama. They’ve gone from ‘kinda weird’ to ‘crazier than Zell’ crazy.

    Chris Salzmann

    August 11th, 2009
    11:28 am

    Jim August 11th, 2009 9:12 am SAID: I’ll tell you why. Because the government will make everybody take out health insurance from the start. How? They will go into my bank account and take the money for for the premiums. Read the bill if you don’t believe me.

    CHRIS SAID: Yeah, Jim. AND YOU”RE WRONG!!!!> ROFLMAO. I read the bill. I’m also have insurance licenses, including health. So, I actually know what I’m talking about.

    FICTION: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer (according to Jimmy and his ignorant cohorts)

    FACT: Wow. Is that scary, or what? Only one problem; it’s a lie. And I don’t mean he’s mistaken; I mean, he’s lying. Here’s what it says in the actual bill:

    ‘‘The standards under this section shall be developed, adopted and enforced so as to… (C) enable electronic funds transfers, in order to allow automated reconciliation with the related health care payment and remittance advice;”

    It clearly refers to payment for the health care, not payment of the premium. Most health care companies love this, and will adopt it. But it is still their choice, just as it could be your choice to pay your health insurance premiums by direct transfer, check or payroll deduction. AS IS ALREADY THE CASE NOW.

    So Jim, post some more of those little twisted “facts”. You know, like the one about the “Obama Death Panel” telling you how the panel has decided to “off” grandma!!! After all, Sarah Palin said so!



    August 11th, 2009
    11:36 am

    The funny part is that many years from now, after America has fallen apart…everyone will look to history to ask what happened to the greatest country in the world. All of the books will show that this election, the overwhelming democratic majority, those are what brought America down!

    On a healthcare note-



    A government big enough to give you what you want is large enough to take everything you have…


    August 11th, 2009
    11:38 am

    Hey Mark…….Yes ………..Sorry Peter. Sanford is scum, but he is not part of this arguement, but instead a way for you to show your disgust for Republicans while praising a post that appears to fault both parties.

    Both parties are in it for themselves and Sanford is a typical part of the problem.

    Here is another part of the Problem……. Lack of education in this silly State of Georgia……..And idiots like this……..

    Swastika spray-painted outside Congressman’s office
    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

    A vandal spray-painted a large black swastika on the sign outside U.S. Rep. David Scott’s office in Smyrna.

    The swastika was discovered this morning by an office worker.

    Smyrna police are investigating, and the Democratic Congressman is on his way to the office, according to spokeswoman Jennifer Wright.

    I guess these are Jim’s People !


    August 11th, 2009
    11:40 am

    @Chris Salzmann

    If the government isn’t going to take the money from your account, then why the hell do they want access to the NUMBERS?? I’ll tell you why. They can only tkae money out of your check…unless they have your account info. then they can still tax you whether you work or not!

    IT’S ALL ABOUT INTRUSION!! And you guys thought Bush was bad by wanting to listen to your phone calls…



    August 11th, 2009
    11:44 am


    60/40 senate and massive majority in the house, and they are still blaming conservatives for their inability to get things done.

    Chris Salzmann

    August 11th, 2009
    11:49 am

    Tray August 11th, 2009 11:40 am SAYS: IT’S ALL ABOUT INTRUSION!! And you guys thought Bush was bad by wanting to listen to your phone calls…


    CHRIS SAYS: When you transfer payments for services rendered, the bank ONLY transfers the payment, NOT WHAT, HOW MUCH, SOURCE OF FUND, ETC, of your bank account. It’s the same with credit card payments. Just the payment gets sent, not your credit limit, history, etc. If you’ve ever filed your taxes electronically, then you shouldn’t have a problem with this either.


    August 11th, 2009
    12:06 pm

    Hate talk radio just might have the answer here.

    Remember when Hannity, O’Reilly and the rest of the right wing blabber mouths were supporting the use of the tazer in the “don’t taze me bro” episode? You know, the “was warned,” and “was breaking the law,” defense?

    I urge law enforcement use the same tactics with the right wing wackos. One polite warning, then ZAP! Taze em’! Faster than you can say fair tax. ZAP!

    Crushing the pubt's

    August 11th, 2009
    12:14 pm

    The organizer ran people through the metal detectors because some of these peanut brain Springertards had guns at their rallies. And like children who misbehave and act out and never do t heir homework, these Springertards need to be reminded there are consequences for distrubing the peace which Mr. Wooten can’t distinguish from asking a question and sitting down and waiting for the answer rather than intentionally disrupting a meeting and shouting down everyone else.

    None of the disrupters has read any bill, and there is no bill from several commitees, and Waxman’s commitee is not yet finished with amendments in theres.

    Again Wooten avoids discussing any specific provisions of any bill, because he doesn’t konw what they are as usual.

    Which brings up of course the famed, death squad provision highlighted by two of your dumber leaders, Palin and Gingrich.

    The US government should not run death panels. They are far too important a responsibility–and should remain with the insurance companies who have been running the death panels for years as they cut people from their roles, and deny coverage.

    Further, 50 million people plus don’t have access to those death panels–this has to stop. They all must have access. Not just the elite should be pallin’ ’round with death panels.

    Why should only 62 and older people have access to the death panels when there are unproductive people from 15 to 62 as well.

    Also, why is Obama putting a curse on all white people?

    And Jim Wooten raised the extremely prescient point that H1N1 emphasis is being done by cry babies. That’s why Jim Wooten has been placed at the back of the line to receive his H1N1 15 microgram/ml. doses because Mr. Wooten is not a cry baby. H`N1 will beat the vaccines to the tape by months, but so what?

    We have our privately run death panels and no one will take them away from us. We don’t need a public plan for the death panels. People in choppers who kill wolves and mooses can run them superbly.

    We think it’s a great idea that an increasing number of people can’t get insurance, after they are dropped or if they lose their job, and that there are medicare gaps.

    We think it’s a fantastic idea that although all local hospitals bid for meds as part of a powerful consortium with leveraged power, medicare can’t because repubs protected Big Pharma when Bill Frist forbade this type bidding by federal programs.

    And above all here this: Dontcha dare kill mah trisomah babuh or my parents with yo death squads. Ah wants the private death squad insurance companies who have been killin’ babuhs and parents fo years.

    An ahm gettin on da bus to New Hampshire to shout down Obama’s town hall ’cause ah loves the federal lockup in NH in August yes ah does.

    Jim's hyperbole

    August 11th, 2009
    12:18 pm

    Opponents certainly have the right to peacefully protest. But, opponents do not “have every right to protest as they see fit” and it is irresponsible for you to say that they do. When I attend a town hall meeting, I don’t have the right to protest by wacking anyone who disagrees with me with my sign. I don’t have the right to protest by physically intimidating someone. I don’t have the right to protest by painting swastikas on people’s doors.

    Crushing the pubt's

    August 11th, 2009
    12:18 pm

    Democrats Take Aim at Supreme Court Decisions
    The National Law Journal

    Democratic lawmakers are pushing legislation that would reverse the effects of high-profile Supreme Court decisions, many of them driven by the Court’s conservative majority. The bills are a sign of liberals’ frustration with the Roberts Court’s direction — and their hopes for Sonia Sotomayor.


    August 11th, 2009
    12:21 pm

    Why don’t you ask Rep. Dixon about the Swastica painted on his office? The congressman who held a “town hall” where ruffians and thugs brought guns? All those who tried to conduct civil discourse and were shouted down, cursed at, called liars at the tops of voices, and the one memorable scene in which one oversized man was jumping up and down and screaming at the top of his long that he actually frothed at the mouth. They had better be very afraid of you and your ilk, Wooten, because somebody is going to get hurt by these thugs. The real question of fear, Wooten, is: why are you and your radical right bomb throwers so afraid of rationale discourse? What frightens you so about democracy? Because something clearly does. It seems clear to me that the out-of-towners disrupting these meetings are doing their level best to get attacked, so they can claim Democrats are Nazis. We all know who the Nazis are.


    August 11th, 2009
    12:28 pm

    The meeting at Perimeter College in Clarkston was rather “civil” by the prevailing stardards. Mr. Wooten is throwing “things” again at attempts to keep public meetings public and civil. I was afraid we might be in for some of the distractions, outburst and stalling tactics that other legislators and citizens have been subject to in the recent past. To my knowledge, no one bothered the protestors outside of the auditorium and long Indian Creek Drive. My hat is off to Rep Johnson. He and his team managed to keep the Clarkston meeting civilized and anyone who wanted to speak and/or ask questions was free to do so. It was also very nice to be able to hear what was being said by both the questionaire as well as Rep. Johnson.

    Mr. Wooton talks about past days of elected officials controlling the environment for public discourse; well some control is necessary as there are a lot of people in our community who fear change of any sort, who disrespect others who disagree with them and who will do anything, including mob rule tactics to get their way. Mr. Wooten speaks of people’s first amendment rights, well, what about MY RIGHT to speak and be heard as well as Rep. Johnson’s right to answer questions and be heard? What about trying to craft a compromise that addresses the concerns that need to be resolved?

    The only thing missing at last night’s meeting in Clarkston, was mob rule, disrespectful behavior [which was dealt with swiftly] and the inability of other citizens to hear and be heard. All, in all, it was a good meeting.

    As a licensed healthcare practitioner, I have heard so many of the horror stories about medical insurance failures; it is time we constructively dealth with this failure and the misery it causes. What so many of the objectors fail to understand, is that THEY could be the next victim of the insurance industry’s greed and disregard; they should open their hearts, minds and listen to others around them, instead of hoping and believing that all is well.


    August 11th, 2009
    12:32 pm

    Our state will lose if you fight. Now we see how it is to be a minority that won’t work with the majority. Cost regulation has to take place.

    Crushing the pubt's

    August 11th, 2009
    12:36 pm

    The protestors simply don’t understand the failures in the health care system currently or the remedies proposed because they have a long life of not reading bills because they’re too lazy–and this cuts across the educational spectrum. I see physicians in MAG who can’t discuss what the bill proposes, MAG being one of the few physician organization on record opposed to any changes whatsoever.

    Town hall meetings weren’t disrupted before, not even during the campaign although the whackjob Palin did attrack a bell shaped curve of the least educated in the epicenter of hate groups because they wanted only all white candidates, no matter how stupid they were. The nation rejected stupidity last November–they had their face rubbed in it for eight years.

    Among Republicans, their base sits upon Joe the Plumber’s porcelain throne of stupid.

    Do you believe that America and Africa were once part of the same continent?

    ——–Yes No Not Sure
    GOP 24 .. 47 .. 29

    You’d think at least Palin would believe in continental drift, as over time it requires her to calibrate her focus on Russia.

    But the symmetry of imbecility is at least consistent:

    An early look at a new Public Policy Polling survey finds that among North Carolina Republicans, a stunning 47% think President Obama was not born in United States, while 24% say he was and 29% are not sure.

    So, in one state at least, the exact same numbers of Republicans do not believe in geology or nationality. Thank Fox Faux News aka Clusterfaux and ClusterRush for this.


    August 11th, 2009
    12:40 pm

    i have a problem with the government wanting ANYTHING that they don’t need. For the most part, all they do is WASTE…

    Crushing the pubt's

    August 11th, 2009
    12:46 pm

    In a non-partisan report submitted to Congress after they asked for the investigation, 3 top insurance companies cut 20,000 people aka patients from their roles and saved over 370 million dollars in claims, in doing so although the cost was passed on to the “citizens.” The insurance term for this is recission which has a few more letters than “cut.”

    Boy Who Cried Wolf

    August 11th, 2009
    12:46 pm

    Just In-Police are investigating whether the graffitti painted on Rep.David Scott’s office may indeed have been an inside job.

    Crushing the pubt's

    August 11th, 2009
    12:47 pm

    This cut of 20,000 people took place over the last 5 years–because it would be a lot higher if you extended the period to 15 years and listed all insurance companies.

    94% of the states, cities, and municipalities in this country are dominated by only TWO insurance company choices.


    August 11th, 2009
    12:48 pm

    Has anyone else noticed that for more than four decades, the genus of the animal kingdom known as liberalis hippius had no problems shouting out, speaking out, protesting, and other various methods of what they called free speech for their causes? Now suddenly these same people have a problem with regular Americans speaking out, shouting out, protesting, and just generally expressing their feelings and freedom of speech. In some cases, the rhetoric by liberalis hippius has escalated to nazi and terrorist epithets. Politicians scared? When they lash out with mindless rhetoric like that, what else can one believe but that they ARE in fact scared of Americans? Well they better be, because the majority of this nation has health care and the majority of them are happy with what they have. Now liberalis hippius is threatening to ram this legislation through anyway unconstitutionally, and against the will of the people. And they called Bush a dictator? Laughable!

    Oh, and these are the same people that said the Bushies were invading privacy by wiretapping. Now take a peek at what the Obama administration wants to do:

    All those who think this will be limited to government websites, please raise your hand and admit your blind idiocy now.


    August 11th, 2009
    12:50 pm

    Be not deceived by the diversions of the bogus Left/Right paradigm & racial smokescreens. The issue is all about standing for liberty & freedom and not allowing a tyrannical government further empowerment. Learn/study the facts & educate those with ears to hear & minds to learn!

    Boy Who Cried Wolf

    August 11th, 2009
    12:51 pm

    Crushing the Pub-Our elected officials including are newly elected president don’t even read the very bills they are shoving down our throats-and you have a problem with a few people (i agree a little disruptive) who want answers! I think our problem is not with them.

    Chris Salzmann

    August 11th, 2009
    12:55 pm

    Tray August 11th, 2009 12:40 pm SAID: i have a problem with the government wanting ANYTHING that they don’t need. For the most part, all they do is WASTE…

    CHRIS SAYS: After 9-11. all internet service providers already give the NSA (National Security Agency) access to ALL internet traffic passing through their servers. The government already has programs snooping for key words, patterns, etc to monitor your online behavior. So whenever you use your online banking account, pay bills, purchases from Amazon, Ebay, Blogs, etc, everything is already monitored by the NSA , i.e. big brother i.e, the government. All this was put in place soon after 9-11 and still very much in effect.

    So, your fears of government intrusion have merit but are pointless since its already being done.

    Crushing the pubt's

    August 11th, 2009
    1:01 pm


    It’s clear that neither Wooten or his Springermousketeers are able or willing to focus on what is actually proposed to change rather than recite invectives and worn out platitudes, just like the Republitards in Congress.

    Crushing the pubt's

    August 11th, 2009
    1:03 pm

    Big difference el-Chippo from freedom of speech and yelling aimlessly and continuously to ruin a town hall meeting. Haul your largus assius into a Republican election meeting from now until the election in JawJaw and start yelling “liar liar” and that same largus assius will be in the back of a squad car in a NY minute.