Voters buy trouble on Election Day

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

House Democrats propose to limit increases in the cost of some medical insurance policies to 1.5 times the annual rate of medical inflation, unless government says otherwise. Fair enough. Said government should agree, too, to limit its spending to 1.5 times the annual population increase or the annual rate of inflation of what it buys.

Best headline of the week: “Unclear how much time is left.” Second best: “Get answers now, as time may be short.” Both were over the same story. Guess its subject: a) a Southern Baptist, Holiness or Church of God revival; b) a late-night infomercial; c) cash for clunkers; d) global warming; e) the motorcyclist who sped to 170 mph in an attempt to elude police.

The legacy of former DeKalb CEO Vernon Jones lives on. Taxpayers there may be about to take a big hit to settle reverse-discrimination claims brought by four current and former employees of the county’s Parks and Recreation Department. A panel of judges on the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals finds “shocking” evidence of “an overt and unabashed pattern of racial discrimination” in his administration. It’s amazing how many voters buy their troubles on election day.

Would that the federal government be as diligent in tracking the $787 billion “stimulus” money as it is in reviewing how the Georgia DOT manages $28 million in grants to small and rural transit operators.

When they’re all arrested, it’ll be worthwhile to see how many of those accused in the killing of Atlanta boxer Vernon Forrest were born into intact families with a mother and father in the home. Same with the four accused of killing two women in East Point.
It’s noteworthy that the Rev. Al Sharpton plans a national conference here next week and nowhere among the topics is the crisis wrought by bringing children into the world without a mother and father in their home.

Praise be officials in Norcross, Snellville and Suwanee who decide to reject the red-light cameras that locals use to gin up revenue from motorists. Voters, meanwhile, should give the red light to those in Duluth and Lilburn who opt to bring them back. They’re not about safety; they’re about money.

This obsession with “bullies” is evidence of the diminished role of fathers in the family — and the push to dump a family problem on the schools. Two points: Bullies are at some time or other a factor in every boy’s life. Children learn to fight, flee or adapt to adversarial people and situations. It’s a part of growing up and adjusting to the real world. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a bully. Vladimir Putin is a bully. So was Saddam Hussein. Point two: Home is the place to socialize boys, both would-be bullies and those they target.

Nah, Washington’s not going to raise taxes on the middle class. The president promised he wouldn’t and his spokesman affirms it, disputing the two administration officials who actually know how the economy and the tax system works, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and National Economic Council Director Larry Summers. Somebody’s dishonest or clueless.

Give me the Northern Arc and a traffic tunnel under Atlanta and I’ll take toll roads. Congestion relief needs dramatic, visionary solutions. The DOT staff has those projects on a draft list for the board to consider. I’d even take the Lovejoy commuter rail boondoggle, if properly tolled.

Here are the people we trust to design and run a single-payer national health care system: U.S. Sens. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.), chairman of the Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee, and Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) say they thought the sweetheart loan deals they got from Countrywide Financial Corp. were “courtesy stuff” like frequent-flier discounts. When was the last time you got a sweetheart deal on a mortgage? They legislate for our world, but they don’t live in it.

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jconservative

August 6th, 2009
7:47 pm

“It’s amazing how many voters buy their troubles on election day.”

I agree Jim – the classic cases are every president elected since the 1980 election. It has resulted in an accumulated deficit of $11.5 trillion by those five presidents. “Americans get the kind of government they ask for……..”

Aquagirl

August 6th, 2009
8:14 pm

I wish Dubya had taken Jim’s approach to limit spending. Halliburton would have been unpatriotically dissatisfied with jacking up prices 1.5 times. Anyone in the defense contracting industry would laugh at such a small “price adjustment.” 1.5 is just a start.

Wow, Jim, way to ignore kids being harassed. Maybe it’s a guy thing to accept bullying as part of life. We in the civilized world consider assault by co-workers abnormal. Then again, I’m not a Republican hiring thugs to disrupt town hall meetings. More of those good old fashioned Republican Family Values.

clyde

August 6th, 2009
9:21 pm

Good evening Jim,
The guy on the 170 MPH motorcycle is on borrowed time regardless of what his headline said.

We can’t be having no reverse discrimination charges now.

It would be interesting also,Jim,to see how many of these bozos learned their trade from their parents.

The vast majority of the bullies and wise guys that I went to school with died before they were 50.

Where I live we barely speak stop sign.There are no red light cameras because we have no red lights.

William Jefferson had some weird ideas about courtesy stuff too.

Washington will raise taxes on the middle class.Let me repeat that.Washington will raise taxes on the middle class.

Michael H. Smith

August 6th, 2009
9:22 pm

It’s amazing how when liberals in the civilized world publically disrupt, scream angrily at meetings, form intimidating crowds or at times even break a few laws to voice opposition against anything they find objectionable that the government is doing, it is grass roots community organized and they who engage in the activities are called protesters.

Then again, when anyone other than socialist liberals in this civilized world publically disrupt, scream angrily at meetings or form intimidating crowds without actually breaking any laws to voice opposition against anything they find objectionable that the government is doing, it is Republican organized Astor turf and they who engage in the activities are called thugs, GOP operatives and plants.

This seems “fishy”, Mr. Wooten. Best report this to the White House Ministry of Propaganda Control at once before this malicious roomer committed against the State and dear leader Obumer spreads any further; and our names go on “The List”.

Michael H. Smith

August 6th, 2009
9:28 pm

Repeat that one more time clyde. Obumer shall raise taxes on the middle class.

In fact, he already has raised taxes on the middle class in “one form” which breaks his campaign promise not to raise taxes in any form on the middle class.

Jackie

August 6th, 2009
10:48 pm

If President Obama leaves the current tax structure intact, what chance would we have to reclaim our lead in world economic affairs?

Leave the taxes at current levels buys what?

Repubs Gowin' Down--They Be Crazy

August 6th, 2009
10:54 pm

From the confused Bean:

I don’t know about anyone else, but I like my coverage as is. The only other thing I could possibly wish about it is that it be free. And the government taxing corporations and small business even more, not to mention taxing John Q. Public, not just the wealthy as has already been admitted by Democrats, is not going to help make things better.

Like the bussed in slobs in T-shirts being paid minimum wages by insurance company lobbyists you’re operating from a paradigm of ignorance.

There are 5 committees crafting a health care bill, and only one, the Health Committee–Dodd’s in the Senate has reported out a bill. 4 haven’t.

So you’re pulling your assumptions from your butt–which is the closest anatomical/physiological concept you get to when it comes to medicine or health care.

To make it simple Bean–your coverage wouldn’t change.

If you get seriously ill, you will lose your coverage immediately under status quo. Whatcha gonna do then?

Where specifically in any bill that has cleared any House or Senate committee Bean, can you cite language that supports the phony delusions you’re spouting. Of the 2 committees in the Senate, one with a bill already, and 3 committees in the House only one committee has a bill and it has reported none of your delusional crap in its bill.

There is nothing that taxes low to middle income individuals or small businesses below $250 grand a year

a) Your coverage you want will not change. If you get very sick,they’ll cancel you before you can blink.

b) Where can you cite in any bill that says what you have claimed is in any health care plan since only one of the five committees 2 in the Senate and 3 in the House have not finalized a bill. Then the House and the Senate have to finalize a bill. That’d be steps 6 & 7. Then the Conference Committee would have to report a bill which would have to be passed by both House and Senate. That’s 8 Steps before the House and Senate vote on a final bill.

If you’re not sitting on Madam Ashley’s lap when she reads palms in the shack behind the tires and pink flamingos on the lawn, how in the hell are you getting this info you make up, and where in the hell are you getting it from?

So Bean– Where in the hell is your information coming from since there are no bills yet except a proposal from one Senate Committee?

Making it up is default among wingnuts here who are about the level of the bused in minimum wage idiots that shout in town hall meetings because they can’t get a job.

I’m sure since there are no bills from 4/5 committees, and the House and Senate, and the Conference Committee yet, that you have no authority for your self-inflicted fear stoking except your own delusions.

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

August 6th, 2009
10:55 pm

REPUBLICANS ARE NOTHING BUT HILLBILLIES AND THUGS,ALSO CRYSTAL METH DRUG DEALERS,LOCK’EM ALL UP AND SEND THEM TO CAMP GITMO AS AMERICAN HOME GROWN TERRORIST THE GOP

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

August 6th, 2009
11:00 pm

REMEMBER WHEN DICK CHENEY WAS WORKING FOR THE TERRORIST,WHEN HE OUTED VALERIE PLAME THE UNDER C.I.A AGENT,AND YOU REDNECKS SAID NOTHING ABOUT HIM BEING A TRAITOR,BUSH HIDING OUT THE BIN LADEN FAMILY ON 9-11,ALSO RUMSFELD SHAKING HANDS WITH SADDAM HUSSAIN,BUT NEVER WILL YOU HEAR THIS FROM A EVIL REPUBLICAN!

Repubs Gowin' Down--They Be Crazy

August 6th, 2009
11:05 pm

Wooten wasn’t concerned about spending 3 trillion and growing on Iraq and he wanted to go on a lobotomized spending spree when it came to the obsolete F22. Wooten was denied. Get used to it.

When they’re all arrested, it’ll be amusing to see how many of those bussed in Astro turf minimum waged uneducatd slobs in T-shirts will ask for public defenders because they can’t afford attorneys.

There’s a difference between asking a question and shouting a speaker down. They’d find out if they went to any Republican speech and repeated their tactics and fat butt would meet the back of a squad car in nanoseconds.

Dishonest and clueless is easy to ID–it’s Wooten and his bussed in slobs who pull their facts from their butts.

Georgia DOT has been a complete failure, like water policy during the entire Purdue administration which has been a joke.

Michael H. Smith

August 6th, 2009
11:11 pm

Most Republicans in Congress are dead set against a public option, saying it would drive insurers out of business. Some key centrist Democrats in Congress, notably Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (Mont.), say Democrats must give up on it if they want to win a filibuster-proof 60 votes in the Senate, and they are instead proposing “insurance cooperatives, nonprofit groups owned by their members that are similar to rural utility co-ops”. Obama recently expressed openness to this alternative.

“The hard reality is . . . that a public option does not have enough support in the Senate to pass,” said Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.).

Make the socialists liberals choke on the public single payer option government run healthcare!

Just say no to the evils of socialism!

Michael H. Smith

August 6th, 2009
11:25 pm

Democrats manufacturing Astor truf sending out their goon squads and bussed in phony counter protesters: Watch’em shout, threaten, scream and show angry disrespect in meetings. Don’t be surprised if they break a few laws to boot. Wonder how much stimulus money they’ll get paid? :lol:

….the AFL-CIO announced plans to mobilize labor activists to attend town hall meetings in 50 congressional districts this month to counter the conservative protesters.

White House aides David Axelrod and Jim Messina traveled to the Capitol for their presentation to Democratic senators. Senators saw videos of disruptions at events held by House members, and “were told to organize their events more carefully as well as work with labor unions and other friendly groups to generate enthusiasm.” :lol:

Michael H. Smith

August 6th, 2009
11:39 pm

By SCOTT RASMUSSEN

For all the back and forth about the “public option,” Congressional Budget Office estimates and proposed tax hikes, the fundamentals are really what make health-care reform a hard sell to American voters. As members of Congress head home for the August recess, they should take a close look at some poll numbers before they attempt to pass any new legislation.

The most important fundamental is that 68% of American voters have health-insurance coverage they rate good or excellent. That number comes from polling conducted this past weekend of 1,000 likely voters. Most of these voters approach the health-care reform debate fearing that they have more to lose than to gain.

Adding to President Barack Obama’s challenge as he sells health-care reform to the public is the fact that most voters are skeptical about the government’s ability to do anything well. While the president says his plan will reduce costs, 53% believe it will have the opposite effect.

There’s also the reality that 74% of voters rate the quality of care they now receive as good or excellent. And 50% fear that if Congress passes health-care reform, it will lead to a decline in the quality of that care.

Advocates of health-care reform on Capitol Hill are up against something bigger than voters’ reactions to a variety of specific proposals. Our polling in February found that by a 2-1 margin, voters believe that no matter how bad things are Congress can always make matters worse – OMG a Wootenism! That’s one reason 78% believe passage of the current congressional health-care proposals is likely to mean higher taxes for the middle class.

Repubs Gowin' Down--They Be Crazy

August 7th, 2009
12:46 am

The quality of care isn’t excellent for a large number of patients we see over the years who are cancelled. The quality of care is called “we don’t got none.

The slobs in T-shirt mobb of hot air blowers here ignore the fact that insurance companies are in business to cancel you.

If you look at who is in the White House you’ll find the answer to whether the majority of Americans want a public option to compete with insurance companies who screw them.

The majority of physicians’ organizations that includes MDs who have years of experience with patients and insurance companies do want health reform. That does not include this obsessive pasting dope that calls itself Smith. It does include the AMA–Smith not a member there.

What is Smith’s connection to health care? It’s when he tries to wipe his ass. Other than that zero. It’s where Smith pulls his phony stats from.

Note that the obsessive pasters who know nothing about health care don’t link to polls that back their asspulled figures up.

A copy of Trigg Palin’s Kenyan Birth Certificate has just arrived:

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The 6 “bipartisan” Senators currently writing the bill, who represent 3% of the country’s population. None of them share the beliefs of the 76% of the country that want a public option. in poll after poll.

Aquagirl

August 7th, 2009
7:28 am

Speaking of obstructionist do-nothings—looks like Sonny Perdoofus is in full Republican mode, vowing to “play hardball” in the water wars. Idiot.

If you voted for this goon, do us all a favor, stay away from the voting booth. You have zero political common sense.

Craig

August 7th, 2009
8:15 am

They be crazy, is hiding their real name of I B stupid, just read the comments and even more most of the talk is lies without facts.Live in the present and for get the lies that lead you to your misbeliefs!!

George American

August 7th, 2009
8:37 am

Take your pick cause the proof is there. This guy is a real clown

Obama is a SOCIALIST – proof: Health Care socialism
Obama is a COMMUNIST – proof: taking over the banking industry, GM and AIG
Obama is a FASCIST – proof: the soon to be enacted gun prohibition laws

Mr.Bean

August 7th, 2009
8:52 am

{From the confused Bean:}– the blog liberal wingnut drooler

I’m not confused at all. I WANT GOVERNMENT TO STAY THE HELL OUT OF PRIVATE BUSINESS. Why is that so hard for you drooling red doper diaper babies to get into your empty heads?

Oh wait, here’s the mentality of this clown and what kind of thinking this diaper soiling jerk does:
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{Wooten wasn’t concerned about spending 3 trillion and growing on Iraq and he wanted to go on a lobotomized spending spree when it came to the obsolete F22. Wooten was denied.}

So a jet that will take American into the next 30+ years and do things the F-35 can’t, and the Russian competition can’t, is obsolete. And this diaper soiling liberal says that Wooten got denied because the program ended and it was all democrats {I assume that’s the mentality here} that killed it. The plane has been in development since 1990 and been through three different presidents, all of which oversaw a reduction in production units before Obama and Pelosi came to town, and the final production reduction was established last year; with only the option given to the Obama Administration for four additional aircraft, used only for parts and never meant to fly. But I digress here. That diaper soiler probably hates the military period like all those fringe kooks in SanFran and wants us to just be protected by the UN. I’d also wager the kook soils diapers over The Military Industrial Complex.

That a-sshole can’t even get facts right about the F-22 and the red diaper doper baby wants us to think he or she or whatever the hell that thing is that thinks it knows what’s best for us WHO ARE HAPPY WITH OUR CURRENT HEALTH CARE.

Get out of OUR LIFE, you extremist leftist jerk.

Jackie

August 7th, 2009
8:58 am

Social Security and Medicare/MedicAid was created to help Americans without the financial wherewithal to maintain themselves.

Many of those that protest about our current health care system are probably using Medicare/MedicAid themselves, yet, they say they do not want the government intruding into health care. WHAT??????

jconservative

August 7th, 2009
9:18 am

Speaking of FAMOUS SOCIALIST: The following all helped create, save & promote SOCIALIST programs – Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 42 & Obama.
The SOCIALIST programs they helped create, save & promote? Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid & SCHIP. (I could name every president since Hoover but elect not to do so.)

What this country needs is a president who is NOT a SOCIALIST. We have not had one in the last 76 years.

Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work

August 7th, 2009
9:22 am

American International Group on Friday reported its first quarterly
profit since late 2007, though earnings are still on the decline as it
continues to restructure.

A.I.G. said its second-quarter net income was $1.8 billion, or $2.30
per share, after six losing quarters in a row; a year ago, the company
lost $5.4 billion.

“Our results reflect stabilization in certain of our businesses,” Chief
Executive Edward M. Liddy said in the earnings report.

"Charles", The Original

August 7th, 2009
9:23 am

I’m willing to bid all the tea in China and America that no one living in the Continental United States will say out loud that some of the so-called educated integrationist Settlers should’ve betrayed the ideals of the separatist founding fathers. And no one will say out loud that some of the so-called educated integrationist founding fathers should’ve conspired with the British and worked surreptitiously to integrate early Americans with the British. It’s commonly accepted by historians that practically all of the founding fathers and the Settlers wanted their children and posterity to taste the freedom of separatism, independence.

But how unfortunate are the common Negroes today. History shows how the so-called educated integrationist Negroes chose the volunteer slavery of integration over the liberty of separatism for their posterity. And as a consequence, the common Negroes are suffering tremendously today. In addition to spiritual, physical, mental, and social issues, Negroes experience a peculiar kind of scorn or ridicule via the media primarily at the hands of their traitors, the so-called educated integrationist Negroes. And it’s designed to conceal their shameful crime of treason and lock the common Negro mind into a perpetual state of confusion.

Although broken, tattered, drawers drooping, sometimes fatherless, and at other times motherless. Yet the record shows him/her consistently striking out blindly at their treasonous enemies, the so-called educated integrationist Negroes. And when clearly identified by authorities as those who strike out blindly at their enemies, they in no uncertain terms immediately proclaim their innocence when apprehended by the police. And from our vantage point, the message of the common Negro is crystal clear:

Oh freedom,
Oh freedom,
Oh freedom, God put freedom over me!
And before I’d be a slave,
I’ll be buried in my grave,
And go home to my Lawde and be free.

WBK

August 7th, 2009
9:23 am

Aquagirl

August 6th, 2009

You are all wet Aquagirl! You and your ilk have starved an oil based economy from oil and nuclear energy and that has contributed greatly to this economy’s downturn. Everything you try is ideology driven and that is not the real world. For instance China, Russia, and India will tell you to shove it up yours about CO2 emmissions and coal burning.
Maybe as you get older you will mature and see socialist ideas do not and have not ever worked.

I suggest you read the constitution for the first time. While you are at it read some of the letters written by the writers of the constitution. These were religious people but you have to read it for yourself and not let some progressive liberal ideolog tell you what it says. It is the unchanging values that endure.

All my life I have see more radical liberals than I have see screaming conservatives. You just in the advantage of having the media treating you so kindly while reporting the worse on the conservatives.

Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work

August 7th, 2009
9:24 am

Federal regulators accused Maurice R. Greenberg, the former chief
executive of A.I.G., on Thursday of overseeing deals that fraudulently
overstated the insurer’s financial position, charges that came after a
four-year investigation.

Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work

August 7th, 2009
9:28 am

Morgan Stanley said on Thursday that it has paid $950 million to buy
back a warrant it issued to the federal government as part of the broad
financial rescue plan rolled out last fall.

WBK

August 7th, 2009
9:32 am

How may of you wacho liberals have reported me to the white house yet? I am a prime candidate.

Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work

August 7th, 2009
9:32 am

Fannie Mae plans to tap $11 billion in new government aid after posting
another massive quarterly loss as the taxpayer bill from the housing
market bust keeps growing.

Jackie

August 7th, 2009
9:34 am

@Charles

Still spouting about things you can conflate, extrapolate and obfuscate. You don’t have a clue as to what you are talking about and use innuendo and half-truths to make your irrational, illogical and specious point(s).

When you have a substantial point to make, why not post that point and its attendant supporting statements for all to get a clear picture as to what you are trying to say.

Currently, you are rambling and do not have a logical conclusion to your subject. What is your point? As I have heard many older people say in their pointed life-lessons, “you don’t even know your name.”

JackLeg

August 7th, 2009
9:40 am

Hey Aquagirl, it was the UAW union guys who beat up an older woman, guess who HIRED the UAW thugs? The Obozo administration, idiot!!!!

"Charles", The Original

August 7th, 2009
9:44 am

Lately, I’m beginning to feel like Kenan Thompson of Saturday Night Live. In the scared straight program skit, he always goes too far in his attempt to correct the attitudes of young white would be criminals. And when cut off, corrected, or challenged by the top warden for going too far or being too explicit, he instantly throws up his hands indicating compliance and obedience.

Michael H. Smith

August 7th, 2009
9:44 am

You can always tell when you get to a socialist liberal, when you are in their kitchen so to speak. They go personal, they get very angry, they go nasty, real nasty and they even go to down right lying. Worst of all, some of them like the one that is attacking me, can’t sign their real names to their phony claims.

Setting the record straight:

To lay down some ground work a couple of definitions are in order.

Socialism: A political theory advocating state ownership of industry.

Populism: The political doctrine that supports the rights and powers of the common people in their struggle with the privileged elite.

I am a populist, this admittedly puts me at odds with many staunch hardcore Republicans which lumps me in an obscure group, though not necessarily a small group, of “pragmatists” or as some of Teddy Roosevelt’s relatives would call themselves a “Practical Republican”. However, I do not now nor have I ever been a card carrying member of any political party, though I have appeared on GOP contributor’s list and in the past gave money to elect conservative candidates, my political status is actually Independent. That should thoroughly debunk lie number one that says Smith is a Republican. As though anyone really cares.

Debunking lie number two:

The quality of care isn’t excellent for a large number of patients we see over the years who are cancelled. The quality of care is called “we don’t got none.

This is an easy one to nail down quickly as a matter of law. If your healthcare insurance has been cancelled the claim of no quality health care, as called in “we don’t got none” is untrue. Anyone in the United States, that means even an illegal alien, can go to the emergency room of any hospital and they must treat you with the same quality healthcare they give to anyone with private healthcare insurance. Consider lie number two debunked.

The slobs in T-shirt mobb of hot air blowers here ignore the fact that insurance companies are in business to cancel you.

Common logic alone nullifies this claim. Insurance companies are in business to make money. If the sole motive of insurance companies was to cancel the policies of the insured the insurance companies would not be in business for long. Insurance companies are like any other business they operate to make the most money possible by expending the least amount of money paid out from earnings. Insurance companies want to collect premiums, pay as few claims as possible even delay payment for as long as they can and cancel as few policy as possible. Lie number three debunked.

If you look at who is in the White House you’ll find the answer to whether the majority of Americans want a public option to compete with insurance companies who screw them.

The person now in the White House was elected primarily to fix a failed economy which he is yet to accomplish that task after spending billions of dollars to produce jobs. Obumer was not elected to create a government ran single payer healthcare system. If Americans wanted to go after everyone and everything that has screwed us the insurance companies probably would make the list proceeded at the very top by the Federal Government, the politicians in it and the federal bureaucracy. Lie number four debunked.

The majority of physicians’ organizations that includes MDs who have years of experience with patients and insurance companies do want health reform. That does not include this obsessive pasting dope that calls itself Smith. It does include the AMA–Smith not a member there.

Wanting healthcare reform is not the same as wanting government ran healthcare. I have for years advocated for a non-government ran healthcare system to compete with private sector insurance companies. The present Senate proposal of “insurance cooperatives, nonprofit groups owned by their members – ran by their members – that are similar to rural utility co-ops” is exactly what I want and nothing less. Lie number five completely debunked!

What is Smith’s connection to health care? It’s when he tries to wipe his ass. Other than that zero. It’s where Smith pulls his phony stats from.

My connection to healthcare is the same as that of millions of other Americans. I am a consumer which truly is the most important part of healthcare: “We the Patients” not “They the Congress”. The stats I use are taken form various public sources available to anyone over the Internet, in the print media or broadcast media. Lie number six debunked

The 6 “bipartisan” Senators currently writing the bill, who represent 3% of the country’s population. None of them share the beliefs of the 76% of the country that want a public option. in poll after poll.

Disregarding the non-sense posting of irrelevant hyperbole to move directly onto address the six 6 “bipartisan” Senators and the poll numbers: Americans, at least the vast majority of mainstream and main-street Americans tend to shy away from political extremes. Americans do want healthcare reform by an overwhelming majority but “they do not want the extremes of a government ran single payer system nor do they to settle for the status quo”. The majority of polls which anyone can check out, shows the majority of Americans do not support this Government ran Public single payer Option. I personally favor using Zogy and Rasmussen both highly respected polling organizations. Check poll after poll for your self reader, I believe you’ll find the Government ran Public single payer Option does not measure up to the claim that 76% of the country that want a public option.
As for lie number seven only you can decide readers.

I hope you will also find out as much as you can about non-profit consumer owned consumer ran healthcare cooperatives and support it as the reasonable Private Public Option. That is if you can trust yourself more than you trust our government.

Aquagirl

August 7th, 2009
9:46 am

@ WBK, I mentioned nothing on energy policy, the Federalist Papers (or rebuttals) and whatever else is stuck in your congested craw. If you like to rant, foaming at the mouth, on random subjects, it is indeed a free country. I do ask you please don’t use me as an excuse.

Michael H. Smith

August 7th, 2009
10:39 am

Jackie

August 7th, 2009
8:58 am

The people on Medicare that are protesting against the Public Option are probably looking at the cuts in funding to Medicare that will be used in part to pay for this Public single payer Option and the possibility of rationed healthcare for seniors. The old folks have certainly have alot to lose if the Public option ever becomes law.

Medicare has trillions of dollars of funding liability going forward that must be corrected otherwise the entitlements are not sustainable and the budget deficits will be unacceptable.

BG Bowen

August 7th, 2009
10:51 am

Jim,President Obama’s National healthcare plan will ration healthcare for most everyone – except for
Republicans who want vasectomies,abortions or birth control pills.

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

August 7th, 2009
11:07 am

MICHAEL H. SMITH SEE IT`S LIERS LIKE YOU AND THE REST OF THE EVIL REPUBLICANS,THAT TELL BULL$HIT LIES TO GO TO WAR AND BOMB INNOCENT PEOPLE,ALSO WITH ALL THE AMERICANS LOSING JOBS,IT WAS THE REPUBLICANS THAT WAS IN POWER IN 2000-2006,SO WITH ALL YOUR COWARD BULL$HIT,TAKE IT TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TO SHOW HOW TRUE OF A PATRIOT YOU ARE? BUT NO ONLY REPUBLICAN COWARDS TALK ABOUT WAR,BUT WONT GO FIGHT THEM COWARD MIKE I`M TALKING ABOUT YOU RUSH,BUSH,CHENEY,RUMSFELD AND SAXBY,TAKE YOUR FAKE@$$ TAXCUTS AND SHOVE THEM UP YOUR @$$ GOP!

Michael H. Smith

August 7th, 2009
11:10 am

Blah, blah, blah, you have been debunked, evil one.

JDW

August 7th, 2009
11:16 am

It is clear to me from this motley assortment of comments that the biggest issues we face today are partisanship and sensationalism (in some cases outright lying). Some of you just don’t seem to understand the basic fact that American health care costs are unsustainable and on top of that we don’t get our money’s worth. As a small business owner that pays insurance costs for five families I am appalled by what happens each year to our costs. I have a policy for a family of four with a $3500 deductible for each of us ($12,000 max) that has gone from about $350 a month 3 years ago to $711 this year. We have had no out of the ordinary expenses and have paid more in premium that we have received in benefits yet our costs rise more than 20% a year. You people need to wake up to reality our country can’t keep spending this much money on health care. At the same time it is clear to me that in the area of fiscal conservatism the Republican party has failed miserably. In the last 30 years we have had RR, GB1, BC, GB2 and now BO. Of that number the only administration to actually balance the budget was the sole Democrat. Over 80% of the accumulated deficit we face today was created by the last 4 Republican presidents.

Aloha Gator

August 7th, 2009
11:29 am

A person who was not allowed into a town hall meeting in St. Louis was attacked and beaten by a group of SEIU union members.

I suppose that’s how the liberal, “tolerant” lefties choose to respond to those seventy year old, “manufactured”, “right wing extremeists”.

If one of those jerks touched my father or grandfather I hate to think what would happen.

Get ready…. It’s on!

This story is blowing up by the hour. The accounts and videos are flooding the internet. I wouldn’t be surprised to see firearms at these demonstrations. If the police refuse to protect American citizens gathering to protest and exersize their constitutional right of free speech and assembly those citizens WILL protect themselves!

Pay attention and beware ACORN, SEIU and democrats in Congress. This is just getting started. Anybody who thinks those folks are just going to go away or shut up or be intimidated better think again.

anita bryant

August 7th, 2009
11:32 am

Repubs Gowin’ Down–They Be Crazy -another un-employed midtown gay heard.

Larrybobba

August 7th, 2009
11:33 am

Wooten says: “Somebody’s dishonest or clueless.”

Say what there, Jim? Are you talking about tax dollars and how they’re spent?

Are you describing Hank Paulson, our stuttering, stammering, $500x millionaire (thank you Goldman Sachs) former Treasury Secretary who got TARP’s first installment sans accountability for his Wall Street pals?

Are you also describing George W, our clueless former President (who I regretfully voted for twice), who started a war (of choice) while simultaneously cutting taxes on the wealthiest Americans, ignoring his then Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neil’s vehement and proper advice to not cut taxes while starting a war. A stance which got O’Neil fired.

Aloha Gator

August 7th, 2009
11:34 am

Don’t believe me about the attack in St. Louis? See it for yourself.
http://www.breitbart.tv The video is on the homepage.

Michael H. Smith

August 7th, 2009
11:38 am

Add Families USA of “Harry and Louise” fame to the association with ACORN, SEIU and the democrats in Congress pushing only for the Public Option.

Aloha Gator

August 7th, 2009
11:38 am

U.S. Congressman David Scott (D-13th district) is holding a public town hall meeting on August 15th.
Mundy’s Mill High School
Jonesboro, GA 30238
Saturday, August 15, 2009
Start Time: 10:00 AM End Time: 2:00 PM

I wonder if he’ll have the courage to show up.

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

August 7th, 2009
11:39 am

OKAY RACIST WHITES DONT THINK ABOUT STARTING UP A RACEWAR,YOU HICKS ARE GOING DOWN,IT`S NOT JUST THE BLACKS AND INDIANS HERE,BUT ASIAN HISPANIC JEW AND ARAB,REMEMBER THAT YOU REDNECK HICKS DONT LIKE JEWS EITHER,SO IF YOU HICKS THINK THAT YOU CAN WIN A RACEWAR GO AHEAD AND TRY IT,I SEE THE COMING DESTRUCTION OF BABYLON(AMERICA)IT WILL FALL WITHIN 1 HOUR SAYS GOD,THE RACIST ARE OUTNUMBERED NOW!

Th

August 7th, 2009
11:41 am

MKSmith: There are no cuts to funding for Medicare in the health care reform bills before congress. You are misinformed. There are estimates that certain aspects of the health reform plans will lead to greater efficiencies and more cost-effective and higher quality health care which will result in lower increases in costs to Medicare going forward. The savings numbers are estimates of the difference between what would be spent if we do nothing and what we will spend if reforms are put in place.

Georgia Ford Delaer

August 7th, 2009
11:42 am

Saxby Chambliss voted against the little guy yesterday, guess we did not offer him enough money.

Aloha Gator

August 7th, 2009
11:42 am

Want to know if and where your congressman is going to be this month while home on recess?

this link will give you the information. Most democratic congressmen will not post their speaking locations on their websites and their offices WILL NOT tell you where they’re scheduled to speak.

Interesting huh?

http://teapartypatriots.org/state.aspx?state=Georgia

Aloha Gator

August 7th, 2009
11:45 am

Ignore EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP. What a fool.

He’s proably blogging from a contraband cell phone in his jail cell.

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

August 7th, 2009
11:49 am

ALOHA GATOR IF YOU ARE A PATRIOT? THEN WHY DIDNT YOU GO HELP YOUR REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT BUSH,HELP FIGHT THE WAR ON TERROR IN IRAQ AND AFHGANISTAN? WHY ARE ALL YOU REDNECK COWARDS ON THESE BLOGS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIND OSAMA BIN LADEN IN AFGHANISTAN,YOU HILLBILLIES ARE SICK EVIL AND TWISTED,YOUR TIME IS UP FOR GOOD REPUBLICANS,PUT THE DIRT ON TOP OF THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE DEAD IN THE WATER!

Repubs Gowin' Down--They Be Crazy

August 7th, 2009
11:50 am

@Bean

The only things the F22 does that the F32 can’t is need millions of bucks of maintainance every flight hour, has no use in any theater we are in or remotely will be in, and cannot be used by every branch of service. That’s why the morons have delusions and we make the decisions. We win elections and you’re relegated to pissing and moaning on a comment section of a newspaper that’s deteriorated into high school level where you belong. As long as your party is homogenously stupid, you aren’t winning any elections and that translates to eternity.

U.S. Congressman David Scott (D-13th district) is holding a public town hall meeting on August 15th.
Mundy’s Mill High School
Jonesboro, GA 30238
Saturday, August 15, 2009
Start Time: 10:00 AM End Time: 2:00 PM

I wonder if YOU’LL have the courage to show up. Anyone disrupting the meeting will promptly be arrested. Make sure you come and ask a question by screaming “Liar Liar” at the top of your lungs. The Clayton county jail will be the perfect place for your idiot butt.

Database Takes Patients for Billions, Study Finds
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON (AP) — Congressional investigators said Wednesday that two-thirds of the nation’s health insurance industry used a faulty database that overcharged patients for seeing doctors outside their insurance network, costing them billions of dollars in inflated bills.
The flawed database was operated by Ingenix, a subsidiary of the health insurer UnitedHealth Group, which agreed in January to pay $350 million to settle allegations that it deliberately kept rates low to underpay doctors, driving up expenses for patients.
UnitedHealth has admitted no wrongdoing in its handling of Ingenix, though it agreed to close the database and help pay for a new one operated by a nonprofit group.
An investigation by Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, Democrat of West Virginia, shows that nearly 20 regional and national insurers also used Ingenix data.
A continuing investigation by the New York attorney general, Andrew M. Cuomo, previously focused on the use of Ingenix data by only a handful of top insurers, including Aetna, Wellpoint and Cigna. About a dozen insurers, including UnitedHealth, have reached settlements with Mr. Cuomo.
More than 100 million Americans have plans that allow them to see doctors who are not part of their insurance network. For more than a decade, insurers submitted data to Ingenix to determine the typical cost for care received in such visits.
But Congressional investigators say companies would deliberately skew data to underestimate the costs of medical services, leaving patients to pay more in out-of-pocket expenses.
“The result of this practice is that American consumers have paid billions of dollars for health care services that their insurance companies should have paid,” according to the report of the Senate Commerce Committee’s investigative staff.