Thank Sonny we’re not California

Thinking Right’s weekend free-for-all. Pick a topic:

Drop Sonny a note and thank him for managing the small cuts that keep Georgia from being California, where budget “solutions” are mostly just gimmicks that hide the problem and roll it over into another year. Thank goodness for a constitutional prohibition on deficit spending – and for a governor who started managing the nickels early in the downturn. The gimmee crowd – the teachers’ union, for example – really should shut up. It could be far worse.

Fifteen Georgia counties have unemployment rates above 13 percent. State financial incentives for businesses to locate here should be limited to those with high unemployment caused by plant closings. Once skilled and disciplined workers leave to find jobs in metro Atlanta or elsewhere, they’re not going back, worsening those counties’ predicament. Kelly McCutcheon, executive VP of the Georgia Public Policy Foundation, notes that “hundreds of scholarly studies and decades of real-world experience reveal no clear benefits in state tax incentives” and are “particularly questionable” in a business-friendly state like Georgia. Use them sparingly. And target ‘em.

Murray County schools are free to go to a 160-day school year, rather than the required 180 days. It’ll make up the time by extending the school day one hour. Schools this legislative year got authority to exercise more local control. The end destination for all education-related decisions is results, outcomes, performance. Inputs should be left to parents and their chosen school leaders.

Georgia is among 17 states with the lowest graduation rates, according to an advocacy group. Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to be in schools with low graduation rates. Blacks and Hispanics are also more likely to be born without a married mother and father in the home. There is a correlation. It’s not the schools’ fault. We can’t fix education’s problems until we fix the family – or as an inadequate alternative, change the school model.

Once again the Georgia Division of Family and Children Services wasn’t omnipotent in preventing the death of a child, which authorities say occurred at the hands of the mother’s boyfriend. It doesn’t take a village; social workers won’t always render perfect judgment. It’s the mother and father thing, again. Government can’t raise healthy children or protect them.

Atlanta may have to return $30 million in federal empowerment zone money that it couldn’t spend productively. Too much “red tape” say some critics. Shoot fire, your red tape is my accountability for public money. It wasn’t spent because it was too much money chasing too little real opportunity for productive use. The last thing in the world that should happen now is that politicians and bureaucrats start pushing money out the door.

From a news story: “Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), a member of the Finance Committee, is seen as a potential defector from her party on…” You complete the sentence: a) health care legislation b) the Sonia Sotomayor nomination c) the $787 billion “stimulus” porker d) anything Harry Reid wants e) all of the above.

Is the war against terrorism up or global warming down? In India, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gives an impassioned speech demanding that the country and others do more to confront terrorism and global warming. Global warming won’t kill us; terrorists will.  She also joined a television discussion of what’s wrong with education in the U.S. and India. One world, one solution.

Which is more important — the F-22 or paid jobs among the non-profits? The one is cut, the other funded through the $787 billion “stimulus” bill. The arts are important, sure, and donors are strapped. But to metro Atlanta and to the nation, the F-22 jobs and the fighters they produce, when abandoned, leave us less secure. The “stimulus” will funnel another $342,000 to Georgia’s arts-related nonprofits.

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GA Teacher

July 23rd, 2009
8:42 pm

I am totally fine with the furlough, but for the 180th time, there are no teacher unions in Georgia. Stop watching Fox News and get it straight locally. Thanks.

John

July 23rd, 2009
8:46 pm

State employees in all departnents from DHR to prosecutors to the Georgia State Patrol to DNR and beyond have been furloughed for months–some as much as 12 days. The vast majority of these employees make less than teachers–including prosecutors in many cases. Almost all of these employees work a lot of hours for which they don’t get paid just as teachers do. With few exceptions, these employees haven’t received a raise in two years. Teachers in private schools make significantly less in almost all cases than their counterparts in public schools and most haven’t received a raise in those same two years. They also have had to have reductions in pay while spending as much or more out of pocket for classroom materials for their classrooms–and none of them have received the $100 in free money provided to public school teachers. All of these employees have taken their cuts without whining and without complaining. They are thankful that–unlike the people many of us know who work in the private sector–they have jobs from which they can be furloughed. The vast majority of public school teachers and administrators do a great job. However, they are only hurting their cause and their image in their communities by claiming they are being treated unfairly by being furloughed for three days. They need to shut up and take the teaspoon of bitter medicine they have been given when the vast majority of us out there have had to swallow whole bottles of the same stuff.

Susan

July 23rd, 2009
8:48 pm

The Georgia Association of Educators has called itself a teachers union many times over the past 25 years. That is GAE’s terminology–not the television station.

GA Teacher

July 23rd, 2009
9:01 pm

Susan, I understand, but there are many who claim to be God too, that doesn’t make it so. GAE is a bit on the crazy side in my opinion. Also, to all out there such as John: many if not most teachers are okay with the furloughs. WE UNDERSTAND. Remember, those who scream loudest often are those outside of the mainstream. (ie: Ann Coulter and Al Sharpton) If I could shut them up I would. One other thing about the comparison to private school teachers: there isn’t a comparison for the most part. Public schools have to answer to bureaucracy, take all children sent to us, deal with any special ed students, discipline problems and young criminals. Private schools do not unless they want to accept the child. I have taught both and I respect my private school coworkers, but in my personal experience, I do have much more work on the public side with many more disagreeable students and apathetic parents. Private school teachers are usually willing to have less pay to not have to deal with the BS and I can’t say I blame them, but it is their choice.

James

July 23rd, 2009
9:16 pm

Actually, global warming could kill us…just not tomorrow

It was time for the F-22 to end. When the defense secretary says we don’t need a weapon, we don’t need the weapon. It’s bad for Marietta, but it’s not like the government spending is going away or the defense budget is going down. They are reallocating it to a better resource. Isn’t smart and efficient government what conservatives want?

Skeptimal Optimist

July 23rd, 2009
9:24 pm

“They are reallocating it to a better resource. Isn’t smart and efficient government what conservatives want?”

Yep. Finishing off the F-22 air superiority fighter and just filling the gap on a mediocre F-35 designed for ground attack roles to replace the F-16 and F-18 is not smart. And even moreso, taking over 20% of the nation’s economy known as health care and turn it over to the bloated liberal-run incompetent, backpedaling on promises government is DEFINITELY not smart.

Try again.

Skeptimal Optimist

July 23rd, 2009
9:33 pm

“Isn’t smart and efficient government what conservatives want?”

Yep. We’re not getting it with that Stimulus Bill that was passed. Maybe if they’d have slowed down and read the thing and not rushed it – which fortunately the health care bill was stopped for that reason. Hallelujah! Yeah, this is smart and efficient government in lib land:

$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
$380 million in the Senate bill for the Women, Infants and Children program
$300 million for grants to combat violence against women
$2 billion for federal child-care block grants
$6 billion for university building projects
$15 billion for boosting Pell Grant college scholarships
$4 billion for job-training programs, including $1.2 billion for “youths” up to age 24
$1 billion for community-development block grants
$4.2 billion for “neighborhood stabilization activities”
$650 million for digital-TV coupons; $90 million to educate “vulnerable populations”
$150 million for the Smithsonian
$34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters
$500 million for improvement projects for National Institutes of Health facilities
$44 million for repairs to Department of Agriculture headquarters
$350 million for Agriculture Department computers
$88 million to help move the Public Health Service into a new building
$448 million for constructing a new Homeland Security Department headquarters
$600 million to convert the federal auto fleet to hybrids
$450 million for NASA (carve-out for “climate-research missions”)
$600 million for NOAA (carve-out for “climate modeling”)
$1 billion for the Census Bureau
$89 billion for Medicaid
$30 billion for COBRA insurance extension
$36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits
$20 billion for food stamps
$4.5 billion for U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
$850 million for Amtrak
$87 million for a polar icebreaking ship
$1.7 billion for the National Park System
$55 million for Historic Preservation Fund
$7.6 billion for “rural community advancement programs”
$150 million for agricultural-commodity purchases
$150 million for “producers of livestock, honeybees, and farm-raised fish”
$2 billion for renewable-energy research ($400 million for global-warming research)
$2 billion for a “clean coal” power plant in Illinois
$6.2 billion for the Weatherization Assistance Program
$3.5 billion for energy-efficiency and conservation block grants
$3.4 billion for the State Energy Program
$200 million for state and local electric-transport projects
$300 million for energy-efficient-appliance rebate programs
$400 million for hybrid cars for state and local governments
$1 billion for the manufacturing of advanced batteries
$1.5 billion for green-technology loan guarantees
$8 billion for innovative-technology loan-guarantee program
$2.4 billion for carbon-capture demonstration projects
$4.5 billion for electricity grid
$79 billion for State Fiscal Stabilization Fund

just a teacher

July 23rd, 2009
9:33 pm

John

The issue to me a “public school teacher” has two parts. One is that we signed contracts several months ago(try changing a contract in the private sector, and see what you get….by the way I spent 20 years in the private sector, working for serval corporatations). The second is the timing of the furloughs. My school system for example, is starting next week. Now the individual county school boards are going to have to carry out our governor’s lack of planning. They will have to break one year contracts given to all the certified employees. The governor himself has questions about the legality of this…..

just a teacher

July 23rd, 2009
9:36 pm

Oh, I forgot to mention that I have 3 other family members that are working for the state of GA. ALL of them make more money than I do as a teacher with 6 years of experience….

educator

July 23rd, 2009
9:49 pm

I must agree their are no teacher unions in the state of georgia because if we did we would have the opporunity to use collective bargining for our contracts. To the one who complained about the 100 gift card my wife spent four hundred dollars last year for school supplies to use in our classrooms. To John most of those state employees are hourly. I wish I got paid by the hour I would make twice as much money.

CORE VALUES

July 23rd, 2009
9:52 pm

Governor PURDUE should be ASHAMED of him self to put this on the backs of our educators!

CORE VALUES

July 23rd, 2009
9:54 pm

Governor PURDUE should be ASHAMED of himself to put this on the backs of our educators!

Northern Songs LTD

July 23rd, 2009
9:57 pm

Gee, only 6 posts before the name calling started, and guess which side it was…

Bill

July 23rd, 2009
10:41 pm

Yeap, it is time for Wooten to go to the farm ! Same old rubbish !

David

July 23rd, 2009
10:47 pm

Get your facts straight. The F22 did not make us safer. Its an old Soviet era jet that just takes critical limited defense dolars away from more critical needs such as fighting al qaeda. Jim Wooten ONCE AGAIN calls himself a conservative but shows his true liberalism by supporting a long-obsolete government program simply because it creates a few jobs. Defense dollars should be spent for defense ! and not for public welfare.

GOP Teacher

July 23rd, 2009
11:47 pm

I am a Union member; they sent directions and answered questions by email Wed and Thur. A furlough means my parking space will be empty next Mon and Tues. The work will not get done; maybe some parents will come and help.

say what?

July 24th, 2009
12:27 am

Unions have outlived their purpose especially in education. We are all stuck in the same sinking boat, why should ONLY teachers get to ride the life boat or have a life preserve thrown to them? Everyone complains about each other’s job, but the fact that we all work these jobs in order to support our families should clue people in to the fact that we are all( teachers, parents, students, caseworkers, etc) the Have NOTS and need to work together. At least teachers are just now getting furlough days, my former employer has been furloughing people since last year. It was bound to happen to everyone but GSP.

The comment about parents volunteering- in my middle school (that did not make AYP) the principal has told parents to “cut the strings” and stop coming to the school so much. But no worry teacher unions and representatives, her job is safe until she is ready to retire in 4 years. Teachers who think parents don’t want to come I guess the welcome committee needs a little tweaking. Way to go Murray county-creative thinking and savings all in one. Let’s see what would happen in a metro county- all teachers would see is that they have to be with kids one more hour per day, not that in the end they would be without students more days. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Thanking Sonny for what? Being in denial all these years but setting aside millions for a fishing tournament near his hometown, or selling property knowing the plans for the adjacent lots? If Sonny could have taken out loans and doled out IOUs he would have but fortunately, and probably the only good thing in GA, we must have a balanced budget; otherwise, it would be IOUs and I will let the next person worry about it.

With the change in presidents Saxby may not know how to act- his power may be diminishing. Good for GA.

Name calling is from all sides, now wait and someone will link Thinking Right topics to color and single mothers. It will just show how shallow and sheltered folk are- GET A LIFE.

Jim morrison

July 24th, 2009
2:08 am

Hey all of you Socialist Barry Obama supporters1

How do ya like that CHANGE NOW!

National Health Care, HA! You really can’t actually think that Obama is better than Bush.

Enough Said!!!

GAE and gullible teachers

July 24th, 2009
2:11 am

What kind of “union” is run by management? GAE. The president of GAE is a Clayton County school administrator. Teachers complain that no one ever speaks up for them, and then they turn around and join an organization that is run by administrators. Why not just save your dues and wear a Kick Me sign?

Chris

July 24th, 2009
4:38 am

I will thank Sonny when my 2008 tax refund arrives! Until then, the governor get a failing grade from Woodstock!

clyde

July 24th, 2009
5:21 am

Georgia can always do what Louisiana did to boost graduation rates,hand out a “thanks for showing up”diploma.

Olympia Snowe,{R}Maine is an odd sort of Republican.She’s never had to stand before her constituents and beg forgiveness for her,sexual,monetary,other, transgressions and she keeps getting elected.Wide margins too,no cliff hangers there.

I’m betting that you could have told us just where in the 17 states Georgia ranked,Jim.If you had wanted to.

Gerald West

July 24th, 2009
5:52 am

Thank Sonny? What’s he done to deserve thanks? What’s he done at all? Before Sonny and his cronies, Georgia was recession proof, attracting new industries and new residents even when the nation was in recession. Now, we have 10% unemployment, the worst budget shortfall except for California, traffic congestion, water problems, plus the endemic health and education problems.

Conservative

July 24th, 2009
6:51 am

Which is better managed General Motors or Lockheed. The F22 was priced to the taxpayer at $60 million but ended up costing 5 times as much. Lockheed’s Union is worse than the UAW.

SAXBY

July 24th, 2009
6:52 am

Lockheed lied to me about the F35.

Cheap Trick

July 24th, 2009
6:59 am

The kenyan would rather fund the unemployed brood mares in Atlanta than the Lockheed Union that voted for him. Race card played in 5..4..3..2..1

ABH

July 24th, 2009
7:09 am

On a purely tactical level, it’s easy to understand why the responsibility for deciding how to trim the state government’s budget in the face of an ongoing economic downturn that is decimating tax revenue has fallen to, or been assumed by, Gov. Sonny Perdue.

As a lame-duck Republican governor closing in on 2010, the final year of his term-limited second four years in office, Perdue faces no political downside for his solo slashing of the budget. Also, in shouldering that thankless task alone, Perdue provides some political cover for members of his party – a majority in the state legislature – who are, or could be, facing opposition in next year’s election.

Borrowing a sports metaphor, Perdue is “taking one (well, actually, more than one) for the team” as he works with limited, and largely behind-the-scenes, guidance from legislative leaders in coping with the dramatic budget shortfall.

While the tactics behind the budget-cutting rubric are understandable, the strategy the governor has chosen to employ to make those spending cuts is simply an ill-advised approach to managing the state’s fiscal crisis.

Throughout these challenging economic times, the governor’s preferred option has been to issue decrees calling for state agency heads to implement across-the-board spending cuts of one specific percentage or another. While the governor gets some credit for giving some breaks to public education – a core function of state government – in terms of the level of mandated percentage-based budget cuts imposed, that overall approach to trimming expenditures is fast becoming problematic.

Perdue’s latest mandate, for a 5 percent cut to most state agencies – not sparing education, nor public safety – in addition to a simultaneous call to furlough state employees for three days before the end of this calendar year, creates some real issues in terms of lessening the quality of basic government services.

For example, in a Morris News Service story earlier this week, Georgia Department of Public Safety spokesman Gordy Wright said state troopers would take furloughs when traffic in their areas is lightest. That sounds sensible, but doesn’t address the fact that light traffic doesn’t necessarily mean there won’t be drunken or speeding drivers endangering other motorists at those times.

Similarly, while furloughs might not keep teachers out of the classroom during instructional time, with many school systems opting to impose those furloughs during teachers’ planning days, that doesn’t guarantee students won’t be getting less-effective schooling than otherwise would be the case. Additionally, there are questions about whether teachers, who work under contracts, can be ordered to take furloughs – which means local school systems could have to find other ways to cut expenses, again likely at some real expense to students.

Also, at some of the state’s more sprawling enterprises, such as the University of Georgia, the governor’s mandate finds administrators struggling with a host of issues, such as whether lower-paid workers, who arguably aren’t in a position to absorb a furlough, should be furloughed nonetheless for as long as higher-paid workers.

With these kinds of issues confronting agencies that deliver core government services, it is becoming increasingly clear that across-the-board percentage-based budget cuts can’t continue to be the governor’s response to lagging tax revenues.

Clearly, it is time for the governor to start thinking in terms of which government services can be cut back drastically, in order to leave core services intact. By way of example, with the vacation season drawing to a close, why doesn’t it now start making sense for the governor to consider closing down the state’s parks and historic sites, at least through the end of the calendar year? Or, why shouldn’t the governor consider shutting down the Department of Driver Services through the end of the calendar year, declaring a grace period for motorists who need their licenses renewed or have just moved into the state, and delaying the issuance of licenses to new drivers for a few months?

Either of these options seems far preferable to the continued squeezing of education and public safety in a percentage-based fiscal vise, and they’d represent the kind of creative thinking that certainly will be needed if, as seems likely, the economy continues to lag

Will

July 24th, 2009
7:10 am

Because of Governor Perdue’s pandering to confederate republicans in his first election, I have never been much of a fan.

However, in addition to your comments regarding his fiscal responsibility, I would add another example. While political extremists like the adultrous governor of South Carolina and the quitter up in Alaska tried to pander to their base regarding stimulus funds, Governor Perdue set aside partisan politics, issued no pandering statements, and eventually accepted funding.

What’s that you say, the stimulus funding has failed? Why don’t we wait until more than 15% of the funds have been spent before passing judgement.

One more example – Governor Perdue’s furlough announcement was intended to direct the political heat at his expense and away from local school superintendents, many of whom were facing tough decisions regarding layoffs or furloughs.

If this has occured in Alaska, the quitter would have most likely blamed either the media or the school superintendents for economic woes relating to public education and washed her hands of problem. In South Carolina, who knows? The adulter governor has taken so many vacations since he was outed (he is on another as we speak), I assume public education in South Carolina has been abandoned.

Caveman

July 24th, 2009
7:10 am

Sonny and his merry Republicons will happily furlough state employees and take money out of local economies rather than cut out their pork barrel spending and paybacks to their big contributors. Over $20 million for Sonny’s “Go Fish” nonsense and over $50 million to the Reynolds family to build hotels on Jekell island prove that there’s plenty of money to pay for corruption in Georgia.

John

July 24th, 2009
7:14 am

I am so tired of hearing people whine about not getting their tax refunds. If you had done what you were encouraged to do and what the vast majority of people do and filed electronically, you would have had a refund a long time ago. I filed electronically on April 15 and my refumd was there in five days. Virtually everybody else who did it that way also got it. Those who filed paper returns have themselves to blame for the delay.

Dave

July 24th, 2009
7:25 am

Caveman — Under the Democrats State Employees would not have a JOB But we would be Taxed to death.

sharecropper

July 24th, 2009
7:52 am

Wooten, you’re at it again. You Republicans are all the same: waste is what’s left over after you get yours. The F22 is a — was? — a pork project, welfare if you will, and if 187 of them (running 1983 software, by the bye) can’t keep us safe, then dozens more wouldn’t help, and we are toast. And money for the arts? Omigod. Only in Georgia, where we apparently still think Little Darkie jockeys on our driveways are the ultimate art. Try to show some leadership. I know it’s hard.

Diane

July 24th, 2009
8:03 am

Why are Georgia DAs and their assistants and their investigators and whoever else going to Jekyll Island Sunday for three days when the state is in such a budget crisis? Couldn’t they do this by video or attend the same training where they live? Why does it take THREE DAYS to get in a 12-hour conference? You could easily do that in a day and a half or, in these times, one day. Sonny Perdue should reward those DA offices who are NOT attending this beach and golf vacation ny not furloughing them and furlough every state employee who does attend an amount equal to the expense the state incurs for the conference to happen and them to attend.

D Brooks

July 24th, 2009
8:20 am

Forget the wonkery. Let’s get primeval. Rising health care costs are a stampede of big ugly rhinos. They are trampling your crops, stomping on your children’s play areas and spoiling your hunting grounds.

President Obama wasn’t exaggerating when he said this cost onslaught is unsustainable. The rhinos have been roaming unchecked for a generation. We’ve thrown research projects, legislative and corporate reforms at them, all in an effort to tamp down health care inflation. But the rhinos keep coming. They are ubiquitous, powerful, protean and inexorable.

They feed on fuel sources deep in our system: expensive technological progress, the self-interest of the millions of people who make their living off the system, the public’s desire to get the best care for nothing, the fee-for-service payment system and so on.

The rhinos are closing off your future. As the White House folks say, health care premiums have doubled over the last decade. The government is saddled with $36 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

So your only question should be: Where do you find a tool or weapon big enough to stop the rhino stampedes? You know the problem is big, and you figure the response had better be gigantic.

Then you look on Capitol Hill and you see a bunch of popguns. The politicians describe these big ugly problems, but when it comes time to talk about their remedies they tell you: Don’t worry. Nothing’s going to change. In other words, we’re going to eliminate the biggest, hairiest, most entrenched problem in the country without fundamentally changing the system and without asking for sacrifice from anybody.

Good luck.

Then you talk to the health care experts promoting the bills and they are very honest: We don’t know exactly how to slow health care inflation. But we think we have some good ideas. We’re going to put some innovations, information clearinghouses and pilot projects in this legislation, and over the next 10 years we will see what works to really bring down costs. We’re going to go on a voyage of discovery to learn about rhino eradication.

And, indeed, some of the ideas do sound good: more information technology, comparative effectiveness research, conducting experiments to bundle hospital payments so they are based on outcomes. Some of the providers that do things right, like the Mayo Clinic, really are getting results.

But some of these ideas have been watered down in the legislation. And you’re not a complete idiot. You know there is a big difference between finding islands of excellence and creating a national system based on them.

Besides, you’ve got a bunch of big, evil rhinos stomping around! You want more than some promising ideas to pinpoint waste, fraud and abuse. You want some big heavy hammers to clock those suckers in the head.

Now that the first wave of legislation is bogging down, you want to take the seeds of cost control and you want to do more. You want to eliminate or cap the tax exemption on employee health benefits. This is a big way to crush one of the core drivers of health care inflation. You’re willing to give MedPAC-style technocrats a chance to take control of Medicare spending away from Congressional spendthrifts.

You want to loosen federal regulations so that states have more room to experiment — not tighten them, as the current legislation does, so that states have less. You want reforms throughout the system that will cut down on first-dollar reimbursement in exchange for catastrophic protection. You want to tie Medicare subsidies to income. You want to look at anything that will move us away from a fee-for-service model, the core perversion in the system.

You want to change incentives at both ends. The legislators who drew up the first bills want to change the provider’s incentives. But big cost savings can also come if consumers have choices and incentives to hunt for cheaper coverage. The Wyden-Bennett bill gives people a chance to choose the best option, instead of imprisoning people in existing coverage, as the current legislation does. The Medicare Part D reform has produced impressive reductions by allowing consumers to pocket prescription drug savings. Other proposals would give people tax credits and allow them to go to any trusted community group — like AARP or a union or a religious group — that wanted to compete to offer coverage.

Not everything is compatible with everything else. But the point is that you have rhinos at the door! You’ll try anything that works. You want a political class that no longer perpetuates the myth that people can get everything for nothing. You know that it was political pandering that got us into this mess in the first place.

Obama is right. Things will be bad if we don’t tackle the problem this year. Things will be worse if we add to the costs without beating the rhinos.

Churchill's MOM

July 24th, 2009
8:32 am

Where does the Washington Post find these people, all my friends love Sara.

Last year’s Republican vice presidential nominee remains a deeply polarizing figure, and there are warning signs for her as she emerges as a possible contender for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination. While she is still widely popular among those in her party, she has lost ground among Republicans generally and among the white evangelicals who are so critical in the early presidential primaries.

Overall, the new poll found that 53 percent of Americans view Palin negatively and 40 percent see her in positive terms, her lowest level in Post-ABC polling since she first appeared on the national stage last summer as Sen. John McCain’s running mate.

The dip in Palin’s favorability comes as she gets ready to leave office Sunday with about 18 months remaining in her term and plans to turn her attention to national politics. Palin, 45, has said she intends to campaign for other like-minded candidates, and speculation has been rampant that she may seek the GOP nomination to oppose President Obama.

She debuted at last year’s Republican National Convention as a popular figure, with nearly six in 10 Americans holding a favorable opinion of her. But public confidence in her dropped as the November election neared, and it has slipped even further in the months since.

Republicans and GOP-leaning independents continue to rank Palin among the top three contenders in the run-up to 2012, however, with 70 percent of Republicans viewing her in a positive light in the new poll. But her support within the GOP has deteriorated from its pre-election levels, including a sharp drop in the number holding “strongly favorable” impressions of her.

And while Palin’s most avid following is still among white evangelical Protestants, a core GOP constituency, and conservatives, far fewer in these groups have “strongly favorable” opinions of her than did so last fall.

Democrats, meanwhile, continue to express deeply negative opinions of Palin, with more than three-quarters expressing unfavorable views, including 56 percent who feel that way intensely. Among independents, 40 percent view her favorably and 51 percent unfavorably, the survey shows.

Perhaps more vexing for Palin’s national political aspirations, however, is that 57 percent of Americans say she does not understand complex issues, while 37 percent think she does, a nine-percentage-point drop from a poll conducted in September just before her debate with now-Vice President Biden. The biggest decline on the question came among Republicans, nearly four in 10 of whom now say she does not understand complex issues. That figure is 70 percent among Democrats and 58 percent among independents.

“She just, to me, lacks substance and dedication,” poll respondent Barbara Jamison, 59, a data-entry worker at a publishing company, said in a follow-up interview. Jamison, an independent from Killingworth, Conn., added that Palin “strikes me as being more interested in celebrity than in actually doing political work.”

Palin will resign on Sunday at a picnic in Fairbanks and hand over power to Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell (R). As she departs, Americans’ views of her are deeply divided across a range of questions, even in areas that are considered her chief political attributes.

As a vice presidential candidate, Palin was seen as an empathetic figure, but the new poll shows Americans split on whether she understands the problems of people like themselves. By contrast, nearly two-thirds think Obama is in touch with the problems they face.

***Handel 2010***Palin Sanford 2012*****

jconservative

July 24th, 2009
8:40 am

“The end destination for all education-related decisions is results, outcomes, performance.”

Jim, would you not get better results if schools were open 240 days a year instead of 180 or 160? Think how much could be learned in an additional 2 months in school. And 2 months times 12 years – how much more could one learn?Only in America & France do we waste this much productive time.

JF McNamara

July 24th, 2009
8:45 am

Skeptimal Optimist said

“Finishing off the F-22 air superiority fighter and just filling the gap on a mediocre F-35 designed for ground attack roles to replace the F-16 and F-18 is not smart.”

Ok, you pretty much lost all of your credibility on anything defense related. Maybe you should research our military mission profiles and the capabilities of the F-35. Also, how many times has F-22 been used in combat? Hint, 0.

Also on your diatribe about the stimulus. Just because you don’t agree with where money goes doesn’t mean it isn’t serving the best purpose. It just means you don’t agree.

The funny thing is that some of the things you listed are pretty smart uses of funds. For example, Funding Pell grants educates people leading to higher overall lifetime earnings and taxes paid. Same thing for child care education. Studies show that those who learn more in the formative years become more productive over their lifetime. I could go down the list, but why bother. You could do it with 2 minutes of research on any of the topics you so boldly listed.

Northern Songs, Ltd.

July 24th, 2009
8:46 am

And the honeymoon ends – and we didn’t even get to consummate it. Buh bye Sarah.

Cue the spin cycle.

jconservative

July 24th, 2009
8:52 am

I agree with David re the f-22. If it is such a great weapons system
why has it not flown a single combat mission in the 2 wars we have been
fighting? This plane was created in 1983 to meet 1980’s challenges the Pentagon expected to exist 20 years later.

Mid-South Philosopher

July 24th, 2009
9:03 am

Ah, Jim, your perception as to the “Teachers’ Union” is a bit inaccurate. Neither GAE or PAGE is really all that powerful. Certainly not to the extent that some of the teacher unions (with collective bargaining, which is prohibited by law in this state) are in the North.

However, “teachers”, as a voting block have the potential to be the “most” powerful voting block in Georgia. Just ask the “Austell Apple Seller”!

jconservative

July 24th, 2009
9:05 am

Jim said “Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), a member of the Finance Committee, is seen as a potential defector from her party on…” You complete the sentence:”

Do you believe Republicans should pour the money into Maine & try to elect a more “loyal to the party line” than Snowe? Lets see, that was tried in Rhode Island in 2006, bunch of neo-con money poured into the state against the sitting incumbent Republican. Both then spent all their money in the primary. Then the general election allowed an unknown Democrat with a big pile of money to buy the election. As a result of this, the Democrats controlled the Senate by 1 vote in 2007-2008 session.

Be very careful of what you wish for in politics. In the Senate it is not the vote on individual issues that matters most, it is, rather what caucus you join.

Tom

July 24th, 2009
9:13 am

C’mon, folks, Wootie is exactly right: without the F-22, we’ll be much less safe if the Soviet Union decides to attack us.

deegee

July 24th, 2009
9:13 am

I totally respect the work of public school teachers. But don’t they get a lot more days off with pay than without pay? I am an employee of a private company that cut pay instead of jobs this year. The pay cut computes to one day’s wages a month. I still have to go to work on my “furlough” day. I’m not complaining, I’m just saying.

So it ain't so, Joe

July 24th, 2009
9:32 am

Is it me or did the state’s fiscal year start on July 1st?? It took Sonny 22 days to furlough teachers and less than that for him to cut funding to state agencies. If that isn’t rolling over problems to the next fiscal year than what is? And Wooten wrote column after column about Obama breaking contracts through the GM bankruptcy, but praises Sonny for doing the same thing to teachers. A hack if I ever saw one.

Get Real

July 24th, 2009
9:35 am

Wooten is all about party first with his Sen. Snowe comment. Don’t let facts get in the way.

Redneck Convert

July 24th, 2009
9:37 am

Well, old Sonny got it right. Keep the Go Fish program and lay off the worthless teachers. I say do anything you got to do to keep from having a tax increase. I get loose bowels when they even mention a tax increase. Matter of fact, I ain’t feeling too good right now. I’m going to take a little break. Pardon me.

. . . Wooten is right to talk about all the worthless unwed mothers. He keeps bringing it up and one day it will sink in. It’s all Those People dropping babys all over the place that’s causing all our problems. We need to have a Snip Program. Just let some of us roam around in gangs in Atlanta snipping all the men that’s making all these babys. Then put them on road gangs so they can start paying us back for all the problems they cause. If we don’t do it sooner or later we’re going to have a tax increase.

Excuse me. I got to take a break again. That word scares the heck out of me. Have a good day everybody.

[...] Jim Wooten says to thank Sonny we’re not California. [...]

Peter

July 24th, 2009
9:53 am

Forget about thanking Sonny……..Drill your own well, and work from home……he has done zero to help the state water issue, and commuter issue !

By the way Jim….looks like the Feds will have to look into education in the state as well !

Northern Songs, Ltd.

July 24th, 2009
10:02 am

Did Tom @ 9:13 not get the memo? This is 2009, not 1979, or ‘69, or ‘59, or……….

Dunwoody Mike

July 24th, 2009
10:09 am

Skeptical Optimist,
Oh God! Money for people to go to college! What a dreadful thing…we need to keep kids ingnorant, don’t we?

Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work

July 24th, 2009
10:14 am

Warren E. Buffett showed again why he is known as one of the world’s
best investors, thanks in part to another prominent investor, Goldman
Sachs.

Mr. Buffett’s stake in Goldman is now worth $9.1 billion, or about $4.1
billion more than what he paid 10 months ago, according to an analysis
by Linus Wilson, an assistant professor of finance at the University of
Louisiana at Lafayette.

According to Mr. Wilson’s calculations, Mr. Buffett would realize an
annualized return of about 111 percent if he sold his Goldman stake,
which is held by his conglomerate, Berkshire Hathaway.

In comparison, the federal government received a 23 percent annualized
return for its Goldman investment, the bank said after it agreed on
Wednesday to pay $1.1 billion to settle warrants the Treasury
Department received after injecting $10 billion into the bank in
November.

Gimmee Gimmee

July 24th, 2009
10:20 am

As a teacher, I guess I’m part of the “gimmee” crowd. The only thing I want anyone to “gimmee” is the pay on my signed 180 day contract. I love teaching, and I’ll do what is best for my students, but dishonoring a contract is shifty and dishonest. Oh wait….I forgot we’re talking about Sonny. I have no idea why Jim Wooten thinks I should thank Sonny for cutting my pay – maybe senility has finally set in.

Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work

July 24th, 2009
10:23 am

Calpers lost nearly $60 billion in the financial markets last year,
which means it has a serious long-term shortfall. Joseph A. Dear, the
fund’s new investment head, thinks the cure is in hedge funds and
beaten-down private equity.

Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work

July 24th, 2009
10:25 am

China State Construction Engineering Corp. sold 12 billion shares to
raise $7.3 billion in the world’s biggest initial public offering this
year, highlighting a revival in China’s financial markets.

John

July 24th, 2009
10:28 am

Read the language in your contract. To paraphrase, it says the contract can be modified or even terminated because of reduction in force (laying off teachers) or if funds are not available. Perhaps you need to go back and take reading classes.

Brad Steel

July 24th, 2009
10:29 am

Picking on under-paid teachers and supporting the F-22 defense industry corporate welfare.

Wooten, you have no integrity or shame.

booger

July 24th, 2009
10:35 am

Jim,

Your point is well taken. Sonny has kept his hand on the wheel while some other states have spent themselves into a real mess. It is interesting to note that the states with the biggest problems are the states with the highest taxes and widest range of services. It will be interesting to see how the California saga plays out. People are now leaving the state in large numbers. they may even lose a congressional seat in the next census. And it is not just people leaving, it’s the productive people. That large group of unappreciated and often criticized citizens who create jobs, invest, and create the wealth everyone shares.

I think the country should watch this play out very closely, a lot could be learned.

One Voice

July 24th, 2009
11:10 am

Jim,

#1- There are no teachers’ unions in Georgia. You should know that considering you are a “journalist” who writes about Ga politics.

#2- RE: The correlation between Blacks, Hispanics, dropouts, and single parent homes- Correlation does not imply causation, which is covered in undergrad statistics 101. There is an extremely high correlation between baseball and mosquitoes. Does that mean that baseball causes mosquitoes, or that mosquitoes cause baseball, Jim? I’d recommend getting an education, even at your advanced age, if you’re going to continue to spread opinions.

#3- “Global warming won’t kill us; terrorists will.” Again, get an education. Terrorism has the potential to kill thousands of us. Global warming has the potential to kill billions of us, all of us. Really, the greatest threat to humanity is the continued ignorance of fundamentalist bible beaters, like yourself, Jim, who deny science and eschew education and do not have the intellectual or cognitive capacity to adequately process evidence.

dick hertz

July 24th, 2009
11:31 am

First off education in this state takes a huge back seat to sports programs. Every teacher has some idiot sports flag flying in thier room. Get back to educating and maybe someone will take you serious.

Chris Broe

July 24th, 2009
11:34 am

15 Georgia Counties have 13% unemployment. Georgia’s is one of the 17 states with lowest graduation rates. The bulldog breed ranks the 3rd from the bottom on the list of smartest-to-dumbest dogs. A Georgia Bulldog, then, is the dumbest, laziest, most worthless of all creatures, great and small.

A moment of silence for UGA 6 who died a year ago June. Then the Taco Bell dog died. These things come in threes. So love your pet. Give him a scooby snack. You never know what may happen.

UGA 6, we hardly knew ye.

JohnD

July 24th, 2009
12:38 pm

Uh, One Voice, you need an education.

Terrorism absolutely has the potential to kill millions of us, after killing thousands to this point. Are you able to prove Global Warming as the cause of any death? No, you are not. In fact, attempting to prove Global Warming even exists will be met with thousands of scientists who will present factual evidence there is no “Global Warming”. The great Al Gore as “Global Warming” spokesman is the best evidence the campaign is a fraud. After the time Al spent inventing the internet and creating the US Strategic Oil Reserves I am surprised he has energy for another project.

Your comments relative to correlation and causation are simply asinine.

I am surprised you have not brought Darwin and his “theory” of evolution into the discussion. Why not prove that one for us?

Get it straight

July 24th, 2009
12:39 pm

Enter your comments here

Get it straight

July 24th, 2009
12:41 pm

For the millioneth time, teachers don’t get paid for days they don’t work! They are paid for 190 days, and this money is spread over 12 months.

Steeley Dan

July 24th, 2009
12:55 pm

“WASHINGTON – A powerful House committee chairman is threatening to force a floor vote to break the impasse on health care overhaul. Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman told The Associated Press negotiations with fiscally conservative Democrats on his panel cannot go on “interminably” because they would “empower” Republicans and allow the minority party to take control of the panel. The California Democrat said Friday if he can’t reach agreement with the conservatives, the health care bill would go straight to the floor, and not through his committee. Two House panels have already passed legislation. Waxman is stymied because seven conservatives — who call themselves Blue Dog Democrats — are sticking together. Negotiations continued. Meanwhile President Barack Obama is likening overhaul of the nation’s health care system to one of the government’s greatest triumphs: the NASA program that landed astronauts on the moon 40 years ago”

Yep, rush the damned thing through just like that wonderful stimulus bill that nobody read – all so PresBo can have his early legacy victory – the majority of Americans happy with their *current* plans be damned.

And oh the irony on PresBo likening the moon landing to the fiscal, managerial, job losing, cost increasing, and economic back breaking Obamacare bill. Let’s compare what the [liberal] Democrats will spend on bailouts alone compared to the moon landing, let alone wars:

“$23 trillion is more than the total cost of all the wars the United States has ever fought, put together. World War II, for example, cost $4.1 trillion in 2008 dollars, according to the Congressional Research Service. Even the Moon landings and the New Deal didn’t come close to $23 trillion: the Moon shot in 1969 cost an estimated $237 billion in current dollars, and the entire Depression-era Roosevelt relief program came in at $500 billion.”

And to think the same people who think this is the greatest and most responsible government in history had the gall to say Bush bankrupted the US. Laughable.

Corey

July 24th, 2009
12:58 pm

Skeptimal Optimist, so seven more F-22s will not get built. Will seven less make that much of a difference. Stop spinning this as if ther will bo no F-22s. Instead of 192 we will have 185. Most people don’t know that. They, like you, grab headlines and run with them.

Corey

July 24th, 2009
12:59 pm

Excuse the spelling errors.

catlady

July 24th, 2009
1:09 pm

I signed a contract to work 190 days and be paid x amount. Now you want to unilaterally change that?? What happened to your stand on changing the amount executives were guaranteed for bonuses at those banks/brokerage houses? And mine isn’t a bonus; just base pay.

Steeley Dan

July 24th, 2009
1:11 pm

PresBo really knows how to step in it, doesn’t he? A cop behaves “stupidly” when he doesn’t even know all the facts. That’s ironic since he withheld judgment on Iran’s nukes because he didn’t “know all the facts of the matter.” You’ve also got to keep in mind this area of the country is flaming liberal, and that same cop saved the life of a Black man several years ago. You didn’t hear the main stream media report about *that*, did you? Besides, I thought all the alleged racial problems in this nation were in the hick south. Even the libs around there are upset – at PresBo’s comment.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/24/cambridge-police-unit-demands-apology-obama-stupidly-remark/

Corey: I followed that F-22 thread. Some bozo said that PresBo killed off the F-22 program and oversaw the largest reduction in production numbers. S.O. went on the offensive and rightfully attacked the out and out *lie* and backed his/her stance up with data.Anyone could have Googled that information in about 3 seconds.

catlady

July 24th, 2009
1:12 pm

John, you are right about teacher contracts. However, if I break the contract, there is all hell to pay, inlcuding being blackballed from teaching. Kinda unequal, eh?

Steeley Dan

July 24th, 2009
1:18 pm

“Maybe you should research our military mission profiles and the capabilities of the F-35. Also, how many times has F-22 been used in combat? Hint, 0.”

Since C.O. won’t answer J.McNamara, I will: the Raptor is for aerial superiority roles. The F-35 is not. You don’t need to be a Jane’s Defense analyst to understand the F-35 cannot replicate the role of Raptor. Put an F-35 up against the latest from Russia and it will get stomped. Hard. With the Raptor, the tables are turned. That’s not hard to understand.

As for the second part of your comment, the F-117 Nighthawk was in use from 1979 to 1990 before it saw it’s first overseas mission – Gulf War I. So what’s your point?

Billy

July 24th, 2009
1:18 pm

DFCS could do its job better if it were actually funded. Its lack of funding means it’s understaffed, which means the staff it has is overworked. Being overworked and underpaid to do a job in which most people you see hate you leads people to quit. Which, of course, leads to more understaffing and ore overworking. Not to mention that even if you hire replacements those new workers have to familiarize themselves with the existing cases.

DFCS in my county now consists of two supervisors and one caseworker. Those supervisors, who should be making administrative decisions, are instead acting as caseworkers for over 30 cases. EACH. That’s in addition to the load being handled by the caseworker. How do we expect three people to conduct home evaluations and monitoring for over 100 cases?

Jim says it’s “the family thing” again. Having worked in abuse/neglect cases, I can say that, yes, family is important, but it’s not about having a mother and a father. It’s about having parents who care. And one caring parent is far superior to two who treat their child like a pet or houseplant. If Jim and other conservatives really wanted to keep these children safe, they’d worry less about abortion and more about funding the agencies that help kids. They’d accept another 1% in taxes on the top tax brackets to pay for the programs that keep kids healthy, that educate parents and provide services to aid those who do care to develop caring, providing homes. They’d quit the culture war BS about gays and come out in support of anyone, gay or straight, married or unmarried, who is willing and able to care and provide for a child. They’d fully support comprehensive sex education and making contraception cheap and readily available to anyone who wants it. They wouldn’t make a fuss about providing health care for poor kids.

And if they want to focus so much on the breakdown of the family they should acknowledge the negative effect of some of our policies, notably in our criminal justice system, that break families apart. How many fathers have been incarcerated for minor drug offenses that then follow them for the rest of their lives? How many parents have made a mistake only to find themselves in a cycle that costs them tens of thousands of dollars in fines and probation payments yet unable to find adequate employment?

You can blame the parents for their mistakes. You can say it’s their fault for committing a crime, abusing their children, or not helping their kids with school. And you’d be right, for the most part. But blaming these things on “the breakdown of the family unit” does nothing to help the kids that are affected. Those kids don’t need to hear that their parents are worthless. They need food, shelter, and a caring environment. And until you are willing to help provide that environment, no one will believe that you give a damn what happens to those kids.

WBK

July 24th, 2009
1:18 pm

Diane

July 24th, 2009
8:03 am
Diane the only ones who will be given less salary are those in the state where the rubber meets the road. The fat cats will continue having what they have and more. You are going to harm only those at the very end of the spectrum if you do not specify the job or duties of the state employee. I know many state employees who make a lot less than teachers. Teachers work only 190 days and earn more. No one is stopping teacher from getting a summer job. I do not have pity for them….190 days of work. PLEASE!!!!

Mary

July 24th, 2009
1:18 pm

I am personally enraged by the furlough as I am a first year teacher that readily needs my salary that I was CONTRACTED to receive!

WBK

July 24th, 2009
1:23 pm

HEY LIBS: Can you thank our Gov. because Ga is looks a lot better than New Jersey the union state.

WBK

July 24th, 2009
1:29 pm

Mary you need to read all the contract.

JohnD

July 24th, 2009
1:37 pm

The Libs here often write about the crackers, rednecks, Bible-beaters, idiots and whatever name they can contrive for those who believe in God and the Second Amendment.

To quote an acknowledged thinker,

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.”

Sigmund Freud

CJ

July 24th, 2009
1:53 pm

Let’s thank Sonny for allowing the Ford and GM plants to close in recent years. Oh, but he replaced 2 with 1 Kia plant that required massive tax breaks.

Let’s thank Sonny for our increasingly difficult commute times and ineffective DOT. Rail, rail, rail, rail, rail.

Let’s also thank Sonny for disappearing during the gasoline crisis last fall, and his failure to lobby for a fix to the unnecessary problem.

Northern Songs, Ltd.

July 24th, 2009
1:56 pm

A fear of Liberals is just retarded.

Matlida

July 24th, 2009
1:59 pm

JohnD, relax. This is one “lib” that’s not afraid to arm herself. With all the religious fanatics running around, trying to impose their dogma on everybody else, it’s the smart thing to do. Whether you’re thumping your Koran or your New Testament makes no difference to me. If you’re thumping your dogma into our laws or onto my personal freedom, believe me, I have the emotional maturity to stand up to you.

Ben

July 24th, 2009
2:12 pm

To Educator, I sure hope it is not English you teach!

One Voice

July 24th, 2009
2:12 pm

JohnD, aka redneck,

You want to compare our education levels? I don’t think you do.

If you think correlation equals causation then you haven’t even taken the most basic undergraduate courses. The first thing you learn in any basic statistics course (well, not you, apparently) is that correlation does not imply causation, and often things that correlate, either positively or negatively, have no causal link whatsoever.

Regarding natural selection, you clearly don’t understand the difference between a theory and a Theory. You don’t believe in the Theory of Evolution, so I guess you also don’t believe in Germ Theory, Gravitational Theory, Atomic Theory, the Theory of Light, etc. Yes, there’s no gravity, no atoms, no germs, no light, and we all just magically appeared on the planet without evolving. Idiots like yourself are keeping humanity from advancing, but luckily, you’re a dying breed, like the Pilgrims who hung people for witchcraft and your Southern ancestors who thought whites were genetically superior to blacks.

Since you obviously don’t understand science and get your “information” from partisan (opinion) blogs, it’s little use to try to debate global warming with you. It’s far above your empty head, especially since you deny the mountains of physical evidence for natural selection in favor of a comic book fantasy with absolutely no evidence behind it simply because your dumbass daddy told you to believe it.

Terrorists are relatively small gangs of primitive thugs (kind of like Republicans these days), and they have pulled off a few large scale attacks where they killed thousands. But they don’t have the knowledge or technology to threaten millions- they don’t have enough people or the know-how to build powerful enough weapons. But since you are so scared of them and their weapons, according to your Freud quote above, I guess you must be sexually and emotionally retarded. Sounds about right, but add mentally retarded as well, obviously.

Teacher

July 24th, 2009
2:26 pm

Hey Jim, your article may carry more weight if you use FACTS.

We DON’T HAVE TEACHER UNIONS IN GEORGIA.

CGA

July 24th, 2009
2:29 pm

As a teacher, I expect no one to pity me. I chose to go into this profession. What angers me the most about the furloughs is the timing of it all. Back in March, there was talk of furloughing teachers six days, but no real decision was ever made by our legislators. Now, they make the decision to furlough us only two weeks before the start of school. The manner in which this has been handled by our governor is insulting and disrespectful. Teachers are being told by some counties to take some of their furlough days during the most crucial planning time of the year – the preplanning phase. It is practically impossible to get ready for the school year on such short notice. The school system knows most of these teachers will probably come in and work anyway because the work has to get done. Why not take those furlough days from the other less crucial planning days during the middle and the end of the year? My county allotted two preplanning days in January and four at the end of the year. Let us take off those days instead.

Personally, I think there are other ways for meeting the budget that should have been considered before furloughs. Why not get rid of the tax-free weekend? Does it make sense to continue to have these “tax holidays” when our state needs the tax revenue? How about starting with Sonny’s pet project – the “Go Fish” program? We should get rid of the pork projects and tax breaks for corporations before you start cutting from the school budget.

AmVet

July 24th, 2009
2:44 pm

No, you re likely right, Jim – Global warming won’t kill us.

Just our grandchildren and their children and their children.

You’re doing a heckuva job enviro-rapers…

JackLeg

July 24th, 2009
2:46 pm

That’s funny, my wife is a teacher here for 25 years and she is in the teachers union….

count_schemula

July 24th, 2009
2:46 pm

Yeah, since our economy in Georgia is so comparable to California. California grows bigger and crashes bigger. Nothing new there. Why does Atlanta feel the need to compare itself to New York and why does Georgia feel the need to compare itself to California. Georgia does fine as the leader of the new South, but we ain’t NYC or Cali.

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

July 24th, 2009
2:57 pm

JIMBO YOU SAID TEACHERS SHOULD JUST SHUT UP,ALSO HOW BOUT THEM DUMB REDNECKS HAVING TO COME TO ATLANTA TO GET JOBS FROM LIBRALS,GLAD REPUBLICANS TOOK YOUR JOBS FROM NORTH AND SOUTH GEORGIA AND SENT THEM OVERSEAS.
P.S.RACIST ASK YOURSELF THIS,WHY DID THE ASIAN KILL THOSE FOLKS AT VIRGINA TECH?WHY IS THE ARAB BLOWING HIMSELF UP TO KILL REDNECKS AND JEWS?WHY IS NORTH KOREA LAUNCHING MISSILES TOWARDS AMERICA?WHY IS IRAN GETTING READY FOR AMERICA?WHY IS RUSSIA AND CHINA PERFORMING WAR GAMES IN THE BALTIC SEA?WHO ARE CHINA AND RUSSIA ARMING THEMSELVES UP FOR? THEY ARE COMING TO GET THE RACIST EVIL WHITES HERE IN AMERICA,REMEMBER WHEN ROME FELL,AMERICA WILL FALL WITHIN 1 HOUR,SAYS GOD, ANU, EL-YAHUWA.

JF McNamara

July 24th, 2009
3:03 pm

Steeley Dan,

The F-35 is neither mediocre nor designed only for ground attack as he pointed out. Also, you’re incorrect that the F-35 doesn’t compare favorably to current Russian offerings. Maybe you better scroll through Jane’s until you understand the capabilities of the three variants. Try this link. It’ll set you straight on JSF, and I’m “pretty sure” its accurate.

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/news/press_releases/2008/0919ae_f-35settingrecordstraight.html

As stated before, we’ve already got 180 F-22s, and the Secretary of Defense says we don’t need anymore. The F-35 is a multi-role aircraft and is as good as anything else out there. No other country is capable of developing an F-22 because they don’t have the technology. If they did, it would take 10 years to produce and we would know about it.

That’s my point.

Steve

July 24th, 2009
3:18 pm

Teachers are the biggest babies. So what if you’re gettin furloughed. They are extra days off to be with your family and have fun. Instead of whining about it go shopping, go out to eat at a nice restaurant for each day you are off, take a vacation to the beach. But above all STOP WHINING about it. Days off are good. Also, i’m sick and tired about hearing how underpaid teachers are for “all the good work we do”.

starbuck

July 24th, 2009
3:37 pm

We’re not California?? Our traffic blows period. We are California.

Mac

July 24th, 2009
4:20 pm

Go to the state Web site that lists teacher salaries by individual. It gives lie to the underpaid teacher myth. There’s millions in Georgia who would like to be “underpaid” like that.

Rob

July 24th, 2009
4:23 pm

Man, Evil Republicans writes like a member of the Nuwaubian cult.

JDW

July 24th, 2009
4:24 pm

Wooten when is your retirement effective. We need a new voice here. Thank Sonny? For what? Adhering to the state constitutional requirement for a balanced budget? How about for his masterful handling of the water supply situation? Or even better for his innovative and brilliant approach to our traffic issues. The only thing I would thank Sonny to do is leave early. Glad to see you bringing up that old family values music. I love the way Gingrich, Sanford, Ensign, Craig et al practice what you preach. Get off your high horse and recognize the reality that states with high graduation rates do things differently than Georgia. Maybe we could learn something. As for the F-22, even those bastions of Republication leadership Duhbya and Rummy wanted to cut the program. Why keep wasting the money? Or is pork good when it lives in Cobb? Where or where are the Conservatives? All we have are demagogues.

jw

July 24th, 2009
4:27 pm

Nowhere do I read in any of the literature that GAE nor PAGE provides that is listing themselves as a union. Both serve a valuable purpose for educators. The typical gripe is the national scope of GAE/NAE, but a teacher has little if any recourse if you are a PAGE member – the braintrust of that organization is administrator based – that pretty much guarantees any teacher needing representation is ‘guilty until proven innocent’ then ’still guilty’ – they pick and choose the cause, when the yearly financial rider is depleted (meaning the money set aside for litigation) – you get no support on fighting your guilt/innocence, therefore, most teachers could never fight any type of wrongful claims – because of the amount of dollars involved. Also, most teachers choose their affiliation by cost only – PAGE is significantly cheaper. As for the ‘union’ label – I belong to one of the associations, but I’m not a union member, nothing they do guarantees me nothing – and it shouldn’t. Both provide services for their members, but we can’t strike and we don’t collectively bargain – two GIANT factors in the world of union organization.

Why would Fox care about us – a Republican governor makes a controversial decision – it will get downplayed as “BEST FOR THE CITIZENS OF GEORGIA” because they are Fox of the Republicans – they never do anything wrong – bet they don’t say anything about this being a behind closed door meetings and the gutless Republicans leadership won’t show their face in any of this – gee, the Governor hasn’t even had a public conference about this mess – but it does give the Beauty of Fox (hard hitting Gretchen Carlson, Molly Hennenburg, Alison Camerota etc.) a chance to be on screen, lip-synching the persistent gas (O’Reilly, Hannity, Greta, Geraldo, Huckabee etc.) spewed against anything non-Republican.

Fox News is our kind of TV, watch the parade of babes in perfectly fitted television clothes trying to convince us they are hard edged reporters, without any brains when the teleprompter is unplugged! As close to legal porn as you can get without a prison penalty!

Peter

July 24th, 2009
4:50 pm

F-22’s are leaving Jim Insecure…..

Go fishing at Sonny’s place Jim……hob knob with they guy who has done zero for Georgia, while doubling his net worth while in office !

Linda

July 24th, 2009
6:24 pm

The stimulus bill had nothing to do with stimulus or the economy. The health care bill has nothing to do with health or care. Cap & tax has nothing to do with climate cooling (as it was called in the ’70’s), climate warming (as it was called last year), global climate CHANGE (as it’s called today) or universal climate malfunction (as it will be called in 2010).
If no one has noticed, most of the media has tanked for the far left liberals. If it wasn’t for Fox News, we couldn’t get to the truth. Only 2 shows are opinion-based (Beck & Hannity). We watch other stations at different times & can’t believe the difference. There’s some pretty decent babes on CNN if you get up early enough.

ScienceTeacher671

July 24th, 2009
7:24 pm

It seems to me that if the government is already $900,000,000 in the red less than a month after the fiscal year begins, the General Assembly and the governor didn’t do a very good job on the budget this time around.

Just to summarize...

July 24th, 2009
8:04 pm

1. There are no teacher unions in Georgia. Drat.

2. Teachers easily put in 60 hours per week. Yes, that’s sixty hours, and we are not paid hourly.

3. We didn’t get our measly raise this year, we all are taking an additional pay cut, and (zoinks!) our health insurance premiums went up.

3. Stop telling me how lucky I am to get all that vacation time. It’s impossible to find a job that pays well AND that will employ you only during two weeks of winter break, one week of spring break, and eight weeks of summer.

4. Our “vacation time” is unpaid. UNPAID, OKAY??????

5. You’re lucky schmucks like us care so much for your kids. Even the best teachers wonder why in the world we stay in this profession.

6. For all of these reasons, you are no longer allowed to complain to about Georgia’s inferior education.

Marcus Graham

July 24th, 2009
8:18 pm

YOU AIN’T DONE RETIRED YET JIMMY? THOUGHT YOU, MARK AND MARIA WERE GOING DRIVING ALONG THE COAST?

ScienceTeacher671

July 24th, 2009
8:57 pm

Just to summarize, don’t forget class sizes up to 25% greater than recommended…

Gimmee Gimmee

July 24th, 2009
9:02 pm

Steve,

You are stupid.

Steeley Dan

July 24th, 2009
9:28 pm

“Steeley Dan,

The F-35 is neither mediocre nor designed only for ground attack as he pointed out. Also, you’re incorrect that the F-35 doesn’t compare favorably to current Russian offerings. Maybe you better scroll through Jane’s until you understand the capabilities of the three variants. Try this link. It’ll set you straight on JSF, and I’m “pretty sure” its accurate.

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/news/press_releases/2008/0919ae_f-35settingrecordstraight.html

J.McNamara: nice Google! Amazing how that link of yours (a Lockheed link mind you) doesn’t pit the F-35 capabilities (and mission) against the Raptor now, isn’t it? That was *my* point, Mr. Expert.

And your ignoring my other argument against your point of the F-22 not being used in combat (yet) and how long the F-117 took to see combat action is noted.

Baxter

July 24th, 2009
9:33 pm

Early on in this post was a list posted by Skeptimal Optimist. One of the projects listed for potential money being spent was $6.2 billion for the Weatherization Assistance Program. The funds for this program must be expended by 03/31/10.
Please read about this—I don’t know how this will help any of us but if it can, one needs to be on-board soon.
http://www.gefa.org/index.aspx?recordid=191&page=50

danicool

July 24th, 2009
9:37 pm

As a veteran high school social studies teacher and the spouse of someone who has been teaching junior and senior high school social studies for 32 years, I can vouch that teachers work countless hours and breaks willingly and proudly – most if not all breaks and weekends, I grade/prepare the entire break and take classes/workshops to add to my resources. We also spend a great deal out of pocket for basic school supplies and things such practice books, biographies, textbooks, as well as primary and secondary source books. The timing is nothing short of demoralizing. Our pay is for 190 days spread over 12 months. Perhaps if the governor had been more upfront with the school systems rather than literally days before we go back, the reaction from many of the teachers you have read would be different. Public service is not for pay – it is for the greater good. That is why many teachers will be working at their schools on their furlough days and on days in which they are not paid to be there as well as work at home. I think some of the bloggers have valid points regarding the need for the furlough but you must also realize that education is not an 8-4 Monday- Friday job and teachers do not look at their profession that way at all.

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 24th, 2009
11:13 pm

Thank Sonny the Sumo Wrestling Lame Brain for Proliferating a Cess Pool

Georgia Worst Rate of Graduation in the Country and all of the fail to graduates assemble as Wooten Mousketeers slaming Obama with not one scintilla of an idea themselves–

Georgia Worst Traffic and Road Plan in the Country–Hawl your big mama SUV out on the Connector right now and bake

Sonnuh Dommuh solution to water crisis after being body slammed several times–Ah wants all the wawa ah wants–complete Sonny Clusterfook

Repulican Solution to the Crisis where Health Care that is often inapproprite, inefficient to the max, and redundant is one big duh–

Whatevah’s bein’ proposed we don like it–We think it’s great insurance companies are denying coverage right and left. The top 3 cut out 20,000 people last 5 years who were employed premium paying Americans

They didn’t get illegal immigrationitis like some fool here said

They didn’t lackidasically refuse to get coverage–they paid premiums for years but some moron here said they were illegals or else indifferent to coverage–obvious this fool has never participated in health care except to reject mental health care like Palin.

TechLover

July 25th, 2009
7:02 am

Good old Sonny “Go Fishin’, Land Deal” Perdue. What in the world would we have done without him and the other Republicans? Probably just continue to be the most progressive state in the south instead of rejoining the old Confederacy. Seems old Sonny was a little jealous of Augusta having the state’s medical school (disclaimer: I’m an MCG graduate) so he decided they needed one at his alma mater, UGAly. With infrastructure, implementing an entire new system, salaries (medical college professors make more than average professors), etc., how many millions more is this going to cost than expanding in Augusta? Also the GAE may be called a union as is the National Nursing Association, but since Ga is a “right to fire” state, neither has any real power as a traditional union.

GA teacher

July 25th, 2009
9:05 am

I have a signed and notarized contract for the 2009-2010 school year requiring me to work 190 days for x amount of dollars. It’s simple in legal terms. A contract cannot be broken without the consent of both parties. Teachers did not give their consent. ipso facto.

I am happy to have a job, I accept that I work much longer hours than required. I accept that I spend hundreds of dollars annually from my personal funds. My heart breaks for the millions of Americans out of work.

Many Americans faced foreclosure for breaking contracts with their mortgage companies. It ’s simple, I have a contract. It can not be broken willy nilly.

Michael H. Smith

July 25th, 2009
9:08 am

After reading an Op Ed written by a local teacher this morning bemoaning his pitiful plight and that of others in his chosen profession, going on a fishing trip might do him and the others wallowing in self-pity some good: Provided they don’t trip over their own bottom lip dragging on the ground in front of their feet?

Some quite time spent in a tranquil setting of the great outdoors might allow them to gain a much needed prospective. Hopefully the prospective so many of my teachers that have long since graduated to that university of the great beyond imparted to me and others of that time.

Public sentiments are very raw at the moment, as private sector employment has suffered far worse than the public sector. Cato reports, Department of Labor data showing federal worker layoffs and firings occur at just one-fourth the rate of private sector employee layoffs and firings. Government employees receive about twice the amount of annual income as opposed to what their private sector counter-parts receive. And with most of the so-called stimulus money going to benefit the public sector more so than the private sector, those fomenting sympathies for government employees of any type have a very difficult proposition to proffer in rallying a battered private sector citizenry’s support.

Now, go fish. But before you do, you might want to consider changing the bait you’re using: I’m afraid it stinks worse than the pray you’re trying to ensnare.

Munch

July 25th, 2009
9:44 am

Michael Smith, pointing out the self-pitying uselessness of our current crop of teacher, uses the word ‘prospective’ when the correct word is ‘perspective’. Twice. Later, he uses the word ‘pray’ when the correct word is ‘prey’.

Perhaps this is indicative of the quality of instruction he received from the teachers of the past he admires. It is certainly indicative of how much credit we should afford Mikey’s opinion.

Munch

July 25th, 2009
9:46 am

Has anyone started a betting pool on when Wooten is going to weigh in on the birth certificate controversy?

I’ve got ten bucks that says his next column is on the supercop in Cambridge who subdued that scary university professor for trespassing in his own living room.

clyde

July 25th, 2009
9:53 am

GA Teacher,
I have a friend who cleans houses for a living.She too spends some of the money she makes for cleaning supplies.She doesn’t have to,she just does it.She’s like you,dense in the head.

Munch

July 25th, 2009
9:55 am

Clyde reveals his opinion that anyone who goes the extra mile to do a quality job is “dense in the head”.

catlady

July 25th, 2009
10:03 am

California is Georgia kinda in reverse. Where California does all these things for the least among them, Georgia does it for the wealthy and well connected. Look at the special tax breaks enacted by the legislature. Help you any? How about Sonny’s loan and his tax break on the property? Help you any? How about Glen Richardson’s secret divorce. Help you any? I could go on and on.

catlady

July 25th, 2009
10:05 am

Munch, given we were talking about Sonny, I think Michael Smith MEANT to say “pray.”

catlady

July 25th, 2009
10:14 am

I am a teacher of 37 years and I will NOT work on the furlough days. Not at home. Not at school. It means I have less than 16 hours to prepare for my students (less stupid meetings) but I will be as ready as I can in those hours. After all, it must not have REALLY been important to have scheduled 4 days to prepare, if it can be done in 2, right? Let the kids and the parents walk in and see the mess, and perhaps they will scorch Sonny’s (and the superintendents’ ears) about the timing of the furloughs!

And don’t even think about docking my pay till October 1, as I earned the money for August and September LAST YEAR.

I would love it if the courts would rule we could take sick days for these furloughs.

I lose $1200 for the 3 days, plus a 2% county reduction for the whole salary, plus higher insurance premiums, higher copays and deductibles. It amounts to a loss of over $3000. That’s real money to most people.

clyde

July 25th, 2009
10:25 am

Munch,
There is no birth certificate controversy among sane folks and I’ll take your ten.
Best read all the facts about Mr. Gate’s arrest before jumping in like Obama did.He looked a lot like Sharpton and Jackson with his hasty,let’s defend Gates anyway,remarks.

Michael H. Smith

July 25th, 2009
10:34 am

Munch

July 25th, 2009
9:44 am

Well Munchie old pal don’t blame my teachers, they did their part. Being the grammar pro that you are and English “supercop” that you wish you were, I’m sure you will more than swing the tide of public opinion in your favor based on my written errors.

Michael H. Smith

July 25th, 2009
10:50 am

Watch out clyde, Munchie as it appears gets on a word hunt “alot” when all else fails.

Skeptimal Optimist

July 25th, 2009
10:52 am

Oh good grief. You mean to tell me resident libDimwitocrat numbnuts is still trying to compare the F-22 to the F-35? Here, let’s put the issue to rest once and for all since the little left wingnut pantywaste can’t accept FACTS:

“The Lockheed Martin/Boeing F-22 Raptor is a fifth-generation fighter aircraft that uses stealth technology. It was designed primarily as an air superiority fighter, but has additional capabilities that include ground attack, electronic warfare, and signals intelligence roles.”

“The Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II is a fifth-generation, single-seat, single-engine, stealth-capable military strike fighter, a multirole aircraft that can perform close air support, tactical bombing, and air defense missions.”

Okay pansy, the F-15 is today’s (yesterday’s actually) aerial superiority fighter – the ones left that haven’t broken apart in mid air high G maneuvers anyway from old age. The F-16 and F/A-18 is today’s multirole strike fighter. Are we clear now, chucklenuts? Geeze.

Skeptimal Optimist

July 25th, 2009
11:02 am

Anyone see the numbers from PresBo’s press teleprompter … errr… I mean press conference the other night? Here’s his ratings rundown with history:

2/9/09 – Stimulus (hah!) Plan – 35.3 million households
3/24/09 – Economic Recovery (again, HAH!) – 29.8 million households
4/29/09 – First 100 Days (what did he accomplish again?) – 21.4 million households

and finally…. drum roll please………..

7/22/09 – Obamacare (yeah kill what works for 87% of the nation) – 18.7 million

So there you have it. Not only are Americans fast getting tired of a smooth reading community organizer, they are tired of being duped and manipulated, Chicago style.

Michael H. Smith

July 25th, 2009
11:08 am

Yep, I know what you mean catlady those “co-pays” truly are killers, even for the educated among us.

clyde

July 25th, 2009
11:11 am

Michael H.,
I don’t care how one spells kat,as long as I get the idea.

Skeptimal Optimist

July 25th, 2009
11:11 am

Oh this is rich. LibDimwitocrats pull a Nazi-style censorship on Republicans trying to get out a fact sheet on Obamacare (found here: http://www.rollcall.com/pdfs/healthchart072309.pdf). Apparently the bedwetters don’t like it. Poor babies.

——————————————————————————————————————-
July 23, 2009
By Jackie Kucinich
Roll Call Staff

Democrats are preventing Republican House Members from sending their constituents a mailing that is critical of the majority’s health care reform plan, blocking the mailing by alleging that it is inaccurate.

House Republicans are crying foul and claiming that the Democrats are using their majority to prevent GOP Members from communicating with their constituents.

The dispute centers on a chart (view PDF) created by Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas) and Republican staff of the Joint Economic Committee to illustrate the organization of the Democratic health care plan.

At first glance, Brady’s chart resembles a board game: a colorful collection of shapes and images with a web of lines connecting them.

But a closer look at the image reveals a complicated menagerie of government offices and programs that Republicans say will be created if the leading Democratic health care plan becomes law.

In a memo sent Monday to Republicans on the House franking commission, Democrats argue that sending the chart to constituents as official mail would violate House rules because the information is misleading.

In their eight-point memo, which was obtained by Roll Call, Democrats identify a litany of areas where they believe the chart is incorrect.

For example, Democrats argue that the chart depicts a “Health Insurance Exchange Trust Fund” that is “simply a recipient of IRS funds, with no outflow. … This is false.”

The chart’s illustration of low-income subsidies is also “misleading and false,” Democrats argue.

Congressional rules for franked mail bar Members from using taxpayer-funded mail for newsletters that use “partisan, politicized or personalized” comments to criticize legislation or policy.

The dispute over Brady’s chart is being reviewed by the franking commission, which must approve any mail before it can be sent. No decision had been made on the matter by press time.

Brady adamantly denied that the chart was misleading and said Democrats are simply threatened by the content of the graphic.

“I think their review was laughable,” Brady said. “It’s … downright false in most of the cases. The chart depicts their health care plan as their committees developed it.”

“The chart reveals how their health care bureaucracy works, and people are frightened by it,” he added. “So this is their effort to try and discredit” the chart.

Republican Members have made 20 requests to mail a version of the chart to their constituents and have been told that the requests are being delayed while the commission reviews allegations that the chart is misleading.

“Hiding the truth about wildly unpopular policies is a Democrat specialty,” said one GOP aide. “I’d like to see the flow chart on how Speaker [Nancy] Pelosi plans on implementing the open and transparent government she keeps promising everyone.”
——————————————————————————————————————–

The last sentence is the best. Nancy got the smackdown by the CBO on her promise that the government will actually see savings with Obamacare. Notice how she hasn’t been running her mouth so much lately on Obamacare? The best though was her saying they have the votes for Obamacare, and moderate Democrats quickly telling her she does NOT have the votes. Nothing is so amusing than watching a libDimwitocrat being told “NO!”

Michael H. Smith

July 25th, 2009
11:28 am

How about this Skeptimal Optimist since Obumer’s Public Healthcare Plan is such a good idea why not spread that goodness to all three branches of government and all federal employees by forcing them into the Public Option instead of giving them all the healthcare choices they have now paid for at taxpayer expense?

Want to make a bet the so-called Public Option never becomes a law if those employed by the federal government, especially all of those in Congress had to receive their government paid healthcare solely under the public option?

@clyde – just having a little too much fun my friend, I knew exactly what you meant and I agree, obviously our teachers were successful in teaching most of the skills to understand even misused, mispronounced and misspelled words all the same.

Skeptimal Optimist

July 25th, 2009
11:43 am

So, how’s California doing anyway? What a wonderful model state for the rest of America, yes? Especially Nancy Pelosi’s district of weirdo libDimwitocrats. You have to love the liberalism of allowing homeless bums to defecate in public (oh that comment will cause some bedwetting from the mindless mAsses on the left here).

Close behind California as a model role for the rest of America has to be Michigan (side note: notice how many more Michigan tags are around Atlanta lately?). Yep, Michigan! Now why are they also a candidate for America’s role model state? Why it’s simple: GM and Ford has built nothing but overpriced, halfassed designed and built crap for decades. America spoke up and rejected the junk coming out of Detrioit and Dearborn. People have been leaving Michigan in droves because of it, and so what do the brainiac politicians in Michigan (Dimocrats, naturally) decide to do? Why raise the minimum wage from $7.40 to $10.00 an hour of course! Brilliant!

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D99JNJ402.htm

Georgia should be so fortunate, yes? But of course here all we have are libDimiwitocrat pantywastes bedwetting over state tax breaks to draw Kia and others here (maybe they’re just upset that foreign car manufacturers here aren’t unionized – who knows, who cares). And you can bet your @ss if industry disappeared in Georgia these same bedwetters would be blaming Perdue for the loss. Finally, ever notice that the libDimwitocrats bedwetting over tax breaks given to companies to locate here (yeah like that’s NEVER happened elsewhere) can explain how that money was actually taken out of their own pockets, like, say, Idunno, SOCIAL SECURITY?

………….
PHOENIX — A Social Security Administration motivational management conference held at a high-end Valley resort last week cost $700,000, the SSA told the ABC15 Investigators.

Costs for the conference at the Arizona Biltmore Resort & Spa included airfare, hotel entertainment, dancers, motivational speakers, and food, an administration official said.

A spokesperson outside the SSA’s Phoenix office declined to comment.
…………..

Skeptimal Optimist

July 25th, 2009
11:59 am

“How about this Skeptimal Optimist since Obumer’s Public Healthcare Plan is such a good idea why not spread that goodness to all three branches of government and all federal employees by forcing them into the Public Option”

MHS: You think PrezBo and Pelosi would go for that? Man please! You did hear PrezBo’s comment about that when asked the other night, right?

Oh, and speaking of political hypocrisy and stupidity (or as PrezBo so famously says, acting “stupidly”), did you know that Barney Franks’ boy lover was in charge of Fannie Mae exec lobbying for equal housing mortgage access? How come our beloved non-biased (yeah right) main stream media won’t report news like that? For the factually challenged liberals here, Barney Frank said there was nothing wrong with Fan/Fred when the Bush administration knew there WAS a problem and attempted to increase federal oversight.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080924145932.aspx

"Charles", The Original

July 25th, 2009
12:27 pm

I hope that Charles, The Original hasn’t been banned from this site. If so, I’d like to quote my grandfather. “Boy, it’s more than one way to skin a cat.” lol

There is no place for the so-called educated integrationist Negroes to hide. Look for my postings through-out the World Wide Web.

JD

July 25th, 2009
12:36 pm

One Voice

Apparently you subscribe to the “Theory” that volume hides lack of content.

You are mentally, physically and emotionally inferior and not just to me but to most Georgians, you know, those you would like to call uneducated.

Your comments on terrorists tell the entire story. Afraid, no I am not. But informed – now that I am. If you do not believe “terrorists” have the capability to acquire, build and detonate dirty, nuclear or other bombs of mass destruction you must have been sitting at your keyboard for the past ten years doing nothing but thumbing through your thesaurus in a vain attempt to sound more intellignet than you are.

As for your thug reference, you left out the small thug gang attmpting to destroy over 200 years of American progress, the Democrats. If you believe there is a bit of difference in the two political parties other than the Democrat push to Socialism then you are even less informed than I would suspect.

In retrospect, all of your comments, not just the causation/correlation item, are asinine.

Michael H. Smith

July 25th, 2009
12:42 pm

Of course I don’t think Obumer and Comrade Pelosi will go for the proposition as previously stated, Skeptimal Optimist. In fact, I know for certain that Obumer, and all the good socialist liberal comrades would not pass any legislation that would put them and all other federal employees under this Public Option they all say is such a good thing and will cure what ails our the nation. That was my entire point. Not one single member of Congress would subject themselves, their families and all other federal employees and their families to the same jeopardy they will forcibly put the citizenry of this country into under this Public government run socialists healthcare Option scheme.

That is the point I meant to make and I hope someone who has a functional brain in the House will raise the issue I’ve put forth in debate before the House vote is taken.

If it is good enough for America and all other Americans to accept as healthcare coverage then it should be good enough healthcare coverage for Obumer, comrades Pelosi and Reid including the entire federally employed government to accept, right?

"Charles", The Original

July 25th, 2009
12:43 pm

One Response to “Boosting black male college graduation rates….”
Anonymous Says:

July 15th, 2009 at 7:28 am
The fact that the Black Male Initiative of the City University of New York is being challenged simply shows, once again, that the problem of the boy crisis, and especially the black boy crisis, is going to have to get even worse before anything remotely resembling a consensus for action can be reached. The AAUW is still the biggest problem.

Charles, The Original Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.

July 25th, 2009 at 11:48 am
In the words of Leland Mississippi Alderwoman Marla Brooks, We are not going anywhere. We are not going anywhere. Stop! Stop! We are not going anywhere. Leave us alone. Leave us alone. We haven’t done anything wrong… They are doing us wrong. There is a bunch of racist evil black integrationist NNNNNNS up in here that’s doing us wrong.

I can’t speak for Hispanics. But if I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times. Low graduation rates among Negroes have nothing to do with the absence of married mothers and fathers in the home. But here is the thing. Negro males and Negroes in general aren’t integrationist. And the low graduation rates among Negro children are a clear and present rejection of that philosophy. Let’s be real. The so-called educated integrationists Negroes don’t represent the interest of the masses of Negroes i.e. the children of a Negro mother and Negro father etc. They represent the interest of mongrels, the children of a white mother and a black father etc. And the educational system gives credence to that philosophy.

The dirty little secret in the United States among the so-called educated integrationist Negroes and their collaborators has been exposed. Under the guise of indiscriminate love for everyone, they seek to annihilate the “ugly” black faces of the original Negro in the United States via education, interracial marriage/sex, and outright genocide. And it’s promoted by fostering institutional advantages to black mongrels etc. thereby encouraging the original Negro to loathe his physical appearance e.g. Michael Jackson. History shows us how the original black Egyptians were annihilated because of their failure to reject a similar educational system. It was used by internal and external enemies of Egypt to transform original black Egyptians into mongrel Egyptians.

Using low graduation rates as the evidence, the original Negro males in the United States absolutely reject the leadership of the so-called educated integrationist Negroes and the enemy educational system they impose upon their families. But all is not lost. What a fantastic job our first “black” educated integrationist President of the United States, Barack Obama and Harvard University Professor Henry Louis Gates are doing with their children.

JD

July 25th, 2009
12:47 pm

I have no use for Democrats or Republicans simply due to their failure to live to their oath to protect and preserve the Constitution. But eachhas some small redeeming value.

Liberals, on the other hand, have no redeeming value and are simply a drain on the productive Americans forced to provide their support and protection, I lIke the following:

**DIVORCE AGREEMENT**

**Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:

We have stuck together since the late 1950’s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O’Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).

We’ll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s and rednecks. We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood . You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens.

We’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and you can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll provide the necessary security.

We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values… You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClaine. You can also have the U.N. but we will no longer be paying the bill.

We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We’ll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.

We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute ‘Imagine,’ ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing’, ‘Kum Ba Ya ‘or ‘We Are the World’.

We’ll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot.

Since it often so offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely,

John J. Wall
Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, take Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda & Nancy Pelosi ~~ please.**

Michael H. Smith

July 25th, 2009
1:00 pm

My apologies AJC for offending you but you have to admit the practice of Identity Politics needs to end. Both political parties have used them to divide this nation into ethnic pieces for far too long in pitting Americans against Americans in a continuing battle of “us against them”.

As it appears no one in politics has the decency or guts to say it is time for “us to fight for us”.

That is the real CHANGE we need.

Ram the legislation through--their inconsequential

July 25th, 2009
2:04 pm

The talking heads in the media are too stupid to tell you that the Lewin group is owned by the biggest abuser of physicians and their patients and the biggest theif–and those days are comin’ to an end–United Health Care. Wooten has remained unaware of facts like this his entire life. It’s called the downside of a Georgie education. The governor who resides over sinking employment in Georgia is named Purdue. Fortunately his parallel clusterfook to Bush’s parallel clusterfook is ending soon.

Georgia counties have unemployment rates above 13% in large part because Georgia has had the lowest high school graduation rates in the country for generations. It’s Palin we be dumb country. Inputs left to parents has produced the poorest public education system in the countryand produced a state largely homogenous full of ignorant, illiterate, book eschewing cracker hicks like Mr. Wooten and Kyle Wingnut who is so timid he won’t open his “blawg” and non-factual rants to comments.

White cracker children of parents who are basically illiterate and hate books are the bellshaped curve of the population of poor graduating schools. Dumb begets dumb. They know how to reproduce and little else.

A large percentage of white homes have deteriorated so that the children are passed in foster homes from month to month,many of them terrible, and it is one of the quickly developing mental health programs that as the feds have noted, Purdue has handled pathetically for two terms.

The mother and father thing are broken because the mother and father have grown up to be dumb Georgia hicks because of the school system, and that includes the abusive and stupid boyfriend or girflriend. We have chicken egg because as long as the schools are horrible, the adults who are children in adult bodies will be horrible as well.

Olympia Snow and Collins should either defect to the Democratic party, or get out of the way and progressive democrats will elect progressive democrats.

The “war against terrorism” was a massive failure under Bush and little fat boy, and we’re cleaning up your mess. Bush pranced and dissembled, and left Pakistan, Iran, and North Korea out of control and huge threats we’re dealing with now.

Bush was the best recruiting tool for terrorists in the history of Civilization. Al Quaeda loved Bush. They flourished and enlarged and prospered when he was in office.

Global warming kills a lot of people and it may kill you.

What’s important about the F22 is not just that an obsolete boondogle that is 30 years old has been ended, but Chambliss and the wrong headed people who wanted to keep it incluing the Dems from Cal, the Dems from Ct., Tester and anyone who voted for it whichever party have learned that business as usual where the Defense contracts have been an entrenched pork institution are going to be changed. That goes for the Murtha as well. Defense needs to be effective; not pure pork.

The arts have little to do with the F22, but if you go to the stores in Mayetta near Dobbins you may be able to pick up some nice pictures of the old dinosaur in flight. There are currently no fighter plane dog fights over Iran, North Korea, Iraq, Pakistan, or Afghanistan. Maintenance costs on the F22 have been insane. We have a couple hundred of them just sitting around. I’m surprised Atlantans haven’t tried to buy them to replace their hummers and drive them on the choked at this moment Connector.

The Connector is choked because the moron for a governor is too stupid to have any cohesive road plan in nearly eight years. It will take Roy Barnes to get one going again and this will happen.

Ram the legislation through--they're inconsequential

July 25th, 2009
2:29 pm

The publitard message on health care is “yeah we know there’s a crisis, but we’re too dumb to care or come up with solutions. We’ll just sit and drool.”

From Nate Silver:

“The Dow is now over 9,000 and at its highest point of the Obama presidency; the S&P is nearing 1,000 and the NASDAQ has gained almost 55 percent since its bottom and has moved upward on 12 consecutive trading days. There are ample reasons to be skeptical about the rally — it isn’t supported by strong volumes, and it’s almost entirely the result of surprisingly solid corporate earnings numbers rather than the sorts of figures that Main Street cares about. But, there are two big dates to watch out for. On July 31, an advance estimate of second quarter GDP growth will be released, and on August 7th, we’ll get the monthly report on the unemployment situation. If either of those reports reflect the optimism elicited by the corporate earnings numbers — in this context, a job loss number under ~250,000 or a 2Q GDP number somewhere close to zero — there will be a lot of quite optimistic chatter about the end of the recession which might not penetrate to Main Street, but which will at least have some reverberations on Capitol Hill.”

Bush stupidly recommended that people use the ER for their health care if they couldn’tafford the appropriate physician. He has never caught patients in an ER–he’s far too stupid to get into med school. Limbaugh’s talked about motel six health care–which is exactly the health care he received for his ongoing opiate addiction that led to his criminal indictment and plea agreement which cost him millions for Roy Black to negotiate.

Medical procedures and treatment regimens vary widely in this country and some of them are expensive, redundant, and totally inappropriate for the problem at hand.

Health insurance premiums more than doubled during Bush. Concomittantly, the largest 3 insurance companies made 370 million by droping 20,000 premium paying insureds who got sick.

The idea has always been to buy insurance but never to file a claim.

The waste in medicare rose exponentially during 8 years of the idiot Bush.

The huge facet of that waste was something that the drug companies fear far more than the vamps on True Blood fear wood bullets, stakes or beheading. It was Dr. Bill Frist’s preventing bargaining over drug prices and by locking in subsidies to insurance companies in Medicare.

Emory hospital and every clinic that is part of Emory Health care leverages considerable bargaining power for every pill and every cc. of liquid administered P.O. or parenterally by joining a large consortium of hospitals to do its bargaining. This is the bargaining that will come to medicare when we revise health care.

MedPAC revision will not reduce patients’ choices or ability to get treatment options. It will enhance them exponentially..

Skeptimal Optimist

July 25th, 2009
2:32 pm

“Global warming kills a lot of people and it may kill you.”

Yeah right libDimwitocrat numbnuts

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1799/Earths-Fever-Breaks-Global-temperatures-have-plunged-74degF-since-Gore-released-An-Inconvenient-Truth

Take your fascist capitalist hating left wingnut junk science and run it up your libDim @ss. Oh, and did we learn the difference in the F-22 and F-35 yet, numbnuts?

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 25th, 2009
2:46 pm

We’re going to crush you. The media’s stupid commentary on “polls” is misleading just as it is stupidly informing you that the public health care plan is dead. The difference between the F-22 and the F-35 is that one is 30 years old and we killed it. Pork as usual by pacs who pay Republicans is dead as well.

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 25th, 2009
2:50 pm

It’s pretty funny to hear people who know nothing about science tell someone who spent 4 years in med school, 5 in residency, and many years of practice day in day out that they’re “junk science.”

Yep you can be stupid and buy an internet connection and display you’re stupidity. You bring the stupid, and we’ll continue to crush you at the polls, make the laws, and revamp the Supreme Court.

Your bed wetting bitchin’ is a joy to behold.

Michael H. Smith

July 25th, 2009
3:04 pm

Everyone on the federal payroll should receive the exact same healthcare coverage, benefits and medical treatment that Obumer and Congress shall force upon all other Americans to receive under the Public Option they pass into law.

If the Public Option is good enough for anyone of us, then it should be good enough for every single one of them.

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 25th, 2009
3:15 pm

You have a choice of procuring insurance from the insurance companies who now control the care you get or the public health plan when it passes whether you are a non-government employee, in Congress, or a government employee. No one is excepted from that choice.

Michael H. Smith

July 25th, 2009
3:27 pm

HOOEY! Federal government employees receive healthcare choices, benefits and treatment very few in the private sector ever receive, let alone what the so-called uninsured receive at taxpayer expense.

If the Public Option is good enough for anyone of us, then it should be good enough for every single one of them.

Le

July 25th, 2009
4:16 pm

I used to teach in a public school. I know things have changed since I taught, but it was my experience that the teachers who cared, went to school on days before pre-planning and got their rooms ready for the school year. Pre-planning days were filled with meetings that, for the most part, were a waste of time.

And just for the record, most people think that teachers work an 8 hour day, 190 days of the year. Ask a teacher how many paid holidays they receive. Ask a teacher how many of them work only 8 hours a day. Most teachers work 10+ hours a day.

Also, I spoke with a older retired teacher earlier in the week who remembers working in a public school system for a month without pay many years ago because of the economic state of affairs. She did not complain. She said those who “boarded” teachers allowed the teachers a free room for that month. This same teacher said that teachers didn’t receive a pay raise every year.

My, how times have changed. Lots of bickering and deciding who we can sue next.

Ram the legislation through--they're inconsequential

July 25th, 2009
4:24 pm

Smith–

I understand you’ve been mentally challenged your entire life. Explaining something simple to you is impossible. I’m talking about the f_cking future not the present. And per the public option that is going to pass the House, Senate, and joint conference committee whatever the morons at Faux, Rush, or Hannity and the talking heads on any network or cable station or saying–they’re not paid because they’re bright is feeding you and your gobbling–

the public option will give anyone with a heart that is beating regular enough to make a choice –a choice. They can keep their plan, including the plans where the insurance company can cancel them for no reason whatsoever as they have 20,000 people in th past five years.

They can go to the public option which the United Health Care owned Lewin group is feeding to pubtards who are too dumb to know Lewin is owned by UHC.

Out of one mouth the insurance companies and their puppets in the pubtard party are saying that the government public plan would never work, and out of another mouth they’re scared sh_tless that people will choose it and they’ll get clocked with competition.

News flash–Competition is coming. We”re passing a public option. It’s not going to be the piece of sh_t that the Blue dog morons or the republitards with no plan whatsoever want.

Again, WHEN THE PUBLIC HEALTH CARE OPTION BECOMES LAW, AND IT WILL, THEN you will have the same choice to opt for it as anyone else or you can keep getting raped by an insurance company.

The ball will be in your court.

And if like George moron Bush you think the ER is the appropriate place to meet all your health care needs as you get older and if you get a significant illnes, y ou can show up there. A lot of hard working good docs are staff them–I did it for 7 years–but it’s not the place to provide continuity of care for chronic illnesses. That’s why there’s two tier and three tier triage in the large ones now.

Ram the legislation through--they're inconsequential

July 25th, 2009
4:25 pm

possibly illness has 2 “s’s”. Have to look it up.

Michael H. Smith

July 25th, 2009
4:56 pm

brucie wilcox turn that oxygen supply up you brain dead fool, you are talking the same oxygen deprived stupid hateful ignorant bigoted crap you always talked on virtually every blog and when you get nailed on using your advanced stupidity you don’t know what you’re f’ ing talking about.

I’ll stand by what I said; if everyone on the federal payroll received only the Public Option (if any ever version becomes a law) now floated about in Congress and by the White House as the only government paid healthcare they and all other federal government employees would receive, this socialists run government healthcare scheme would never be passed into law.

If the Public Option is good enough for anyone of us, then it should be good enough for every single one of them.

Ram the legislation through--they're inconsequential

July 25th, 2009
5:30 pm

It doesn’t matter what you stand by. We’re passing what we want. Your party can go f_ck itself which is the one thing it’sgood at. I don’t get paid enough to try to explain to a cretin like you.

But the cretins make it possible for us to legislate the way we want, and govern you the way we want.

One Voice

July 25th, 2009
6:44 pm

JD,

You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t take your assessment of content very seriously, especially considering that the extent of your argument has been, “Nah-ah!” and “That’s stupid!” I get a kick out of debating high school dropouts like yourself; it’s like swatting fat, slow, retarded flies.

Regarding people being “physically superior” to me, as someone who is 6’0”, 225 lbs with a 34” waist and a former heavyweight boxer and full contact fighter, there isn’t a large percentage of the population who would fall into that category. The laws of probability would suggest that you are not one of them.

As far as people being “mentally superior” to me, considering I’m at ABD status (if you even know what that means) in a field of science, you’re even less likely to have a more advanced education, since less than 1% of the population hold PhDs. And if you want to try to tell someone they’re not “intellignet”, you may want to be able to spell the word correctly. I’m usually not one to correct people’s grammar, but trying to insult someone’s intelligence and spelling like a 10-year-old in the process just makes you look like an idiot.

In regard to evolution, Sean Carroll, professor of microbiology and genetics at the University of Wisconsin, says people’s denial of evolution “is a cultural issue, not a scientific one. On the science side our confidence grows yearly because we see independent lines of evidence converge. What we’ve learned from the fossil record is confirmed by the DNA record and confirmed again by embryology… [People’s denial is] a blindness that we’ll eventually get through.” Actually, natural selection will eliminate the shallow thinkers like yourself in favor of humans who can specialize in more advanced thought processes. You’ll have to excuse me again if I take the word of a renowned scientist over that of a redneck.

Regarding terrorism, let me explain something to you: A dirty bomb does not split any atoms. It uses conventional explosives to spread radioactive material and therefore would only be powerful enough to threaten thousands of people, even if detonated in a large city, and certainly not millions. No terrorist organization has the capability to split atoms, much less produce a reliable delivery device. You claim to be “informed”, but it is apparent that you are “informed” by fiction, such as the television show “24” and that other work of fantasy, the bible.

As a socialist myself, I regret the Democratic Party does not maintain an actual socialist platform, but I somehow doubt you even know what socialism really is. If you think the two parties are the same you are delusional in addition to uneducated. They are polar opposites on a range of economic, social, and foreign affairs issues- healthcare, civil rights, the military, the role of government, the extent that the free market should reign, abortion, etc. You sound like a disenchanted Republican who is ashamed at how much disarray his party is currently in, so now you call yourself a libertarian.

But I don’t expect any of this to make sense to someone of your caliber. To you, having more education means being less educated, and you deny facts because you feel your opinion is more credible than reality. In short, you are unable to adequately process evidence, there is no substance to your views, and unfortunately for you, you are an idiot. However, I have found you to be very entertaining, so fortunately for me, you are an idiot.

PT444

July 25th, 2009
7:18 pm

I don’t know what’s more hilarious on this blog. A tard liberal pretending to be an expert on defense while simultaneously bitching about gun owners who shouldn’t have the right to own a gun or the vitriolic, no, acidic hatred for anyone who doesn’t agree with liberals. I mean, it’s just eye popping reading these comments from the obvious representatives of the modern left like ‘Ram’. I mean, that’s just good stuff. Go ‘f’ ourselves? This is the mentality that started the American Revolution.

PT444

July 25th, 2009
7:23 pm

I think the increased hatred and acidic posts here from the representative sick left are nothing but a coiled snake in a corner that doesn’t know what to do other than spit venom. And spit venom these left wing snakes do.

JohnD

July 25th, 2009
7:56 pm

One Voice,

To admit you are a Socialist only proves you are a fool. Socialism has failed at every level and in every country, or do you not read Mr. Phd? What a joke, but typical Leftist.

I will make you this offer Mister Tough Guy. Bring it on! Anyone who has to fantasize about his prowess, as you obviously do, is no threat. By the way, you will be significantly undersized – you should have made up better numbers. For someone who claims to be so intelligent and a physical specimen to boot, how do you find time to spend all day, every day, at a computer keyboard spouting the drivel you create? 6′ and 225 with a spine of spaghetti – no threat!

You are just another wanabe, left loser, a public school pablum swallower who could not succeed even if you were what you claim. Sit idly by and watch your hero, Obama the fraud, have this healthcare reform shoved back in his face when the TRUE American people learn the hidden aspects of the bill. Gee, Mr. genius (small g intended), why do you think the Democrat bums in Congress and the POTUS tried to push the bill through without debate?

Just as Obama has tried to hide his birth records, his college records and trivialize the absudity of his books – he tried to hide the truth of the healthcare reform. This will all come to the public one day and you and the rest of the Left Losers will see the only means to your hoped for conclusion is to lie, cheat and steal just as your hero. Obama, just like one voice, is a fraud and simply because you and the other uneducated pigs who hoped to sup at the public trough voted him into office ONCE do not think the mistake will occur again.

The Dems and Reps in Congress are cut of the same cloth. All those crooks care about is their re-election.

clyde

July 25th, 2009
8:22 pm

I guess I’ll shut my computer down before someone throws/kicks something through it.Since my day starts before dawn,I think I’ll go to bed.

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 25th, 2009
10:48 pm

The ignorant racists are the only ones that mention socialism and it has gotten your party crushed and left with no viable candidates.

One Voice

July 26th, 2009
12:30 am

John Doh,

I doubt you know what socialism is. Socialized medicine works quite well in Europe and almost every industrialized country in the world, and our own country has always had strong elements of socialism. I bet you didn’t know that, did you? I am in agreement with Bernie Sanders, the socialist in the U.S. Senate, but I don’t have time to explain our position here. And do I read? I probably read more every year than you have in your life; however, unlike you, I do not get my information from partisan blogs dominated by delusional extremists.

My prowess fantasy? I have fought real men in the ring, athletes who know how to fight and do so for a living, including a 300 lb professional heavyweight boxer and two UFC fighters, one of whom went on to become the light heavyweight champion. The last thing I’d worry about is an overweight hillbilly woman like yourself whose only experience was bullying a couple of kids half her size in junior high school. Ever had your elbow snapped in juji gatame? That could be your prize when your fat arse gets knocked to the ground due to your glass double chin. And you must have a strange perception of time if you think I blog “all day, every day”. I rarely post, maybe a few times a month, because I actually have a real job and a life. Either you have some sort of derangement or that’s your patent accusation towards other posters. It makes little sense, but that’s consistent with most of what you’ve written.

And you’re talking about success? Again, you must have a strange perception of success. I get paid to use my mind, teach, and assess others’ cognitive capacity. That’s a pretty good job to me. But unlike conservatives, I don’t measure success by my paycheck, although with each subsequent degree, that looks much better, too. On the other hand, it’s difficult to see how you could be successful in any field given the intellectual handicaps you have shown- you write poorly, you have difficulty weighing evidence, you cannot discern fact from opinion, and your knowledge of the world is strikingly lacking. Why don’t you inform us of your scientific credentials, considering you’ve chosen to pontificate on the subject? How about your credentials in history, politics, economics, the medical field? Somehow I’m guessing your only “credentials” are a GED, a blog membership, and being a regular viewer of Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck.

The more you write the dumber you appear. You suggest Obama has kept his college records hidden? So you think it’s a left wing conspiracy that he went to Harvard and was the president of the Harvard Law Review? And he tried to hide his birth records, even though his birth certificate has been authenticated numerous times and the hospital he was born in in Hawaii has records of his birth? You have absolutely and completely lost touch with reality, haven’t you?

Yes, I’m sure “true” Americans are not with Obama on healthcare. I guess that’s why he was elected in a landslide with healthcare reform as the top item on the agenda, huh? I hate to burst your delusions of grandeur, but you’re far, far out of synch with the majority of Americans who put Obama in office precisely to overhaul healthcare. Just because you retards yell real loudly doesn’t mean there are any more of you than there actually are. If you took all of the tea baggers (I’m guessing you’re one) across the entire country it would still be fewer people than who attend a Braves game on an average weeknight. You may want to look up the word ‘misguided’ and see if your lard arse is pictured next to it.

And if you think the Republicans have a real shot at defeating Obama in 2012, then you know nothing about statistics or the demographic shift in America (surprise, surprise…). The two fastest growing groups in America are African Americans and Latinos, who overwhelmingly vote Democratic and will continue to do so, especially after the GOP’s racist attacks on Sotomayor. I’m guessing you’re not aware that the GOP will need to tally at least 70-75% of the white vote in 2012 to defeat Obama. That has never happened and will not happen, especially considering that whites who are 35 and under also voted overwhelmingly for Obama in 2008 at almost a 2-1 ratio. You simply have nothing to back up the plethora of absurd claims you make. But keep trying. One of these days you’ll get something right just by random chance, although something about your cognitive functions seems to consistently lead you to the wrong conclusions. That can’t be good for the level of success in your life. I sincerely recommend you get yourself some help and further your education. It may not be too late for you.

Ram the legislation through--they're inconsequential

July 26th, 2009
1:00 am

Editorial: Health Care Reform and You NYT 7/26/09

The health care reform bills moving through Congress look as though they would do a good job of providing coverage for millions of uninsured Americans. But what would they do for the far greater number of people who already have insurance? As President Obama noted in his news conference last week, many of them are wondering: “What’s in this for me? How does my family stand to benefit from health insurance reform?”

Many crucial decisions on coverage and financing have yet to be made, but the general direction of the legislation is clear enough to make some educated guesses about the likely winners and losers.

WHAT ARE THE ELEMENTS OF REFORM? The House bill and a similar bill in the Senate would require virtually all Americans to carry health insurance with specified minimum benefits or pay a penalty. They would require all but the smallest businesses to provide and subsidize insurance that meets minimum standards for their workers or pay a fee for failing to do so.

The reforms would help the poorest of the uninsured by expanding Medicaid. Some middle-class Americans — earning up to three or four times the poverty level, or $66,000 to $88,000 for a family of four — would get subsidies to help them buy coverage through new health insurance exchanges, national or state, which would offer a menu of policies from different companies.

IS THERE HELP FOR THE INSURED? Many insured people need help almost as much as the uninsured. Premiums and out-of-pocket spending for health care have been rising far faster than wages. Millions of people are “underinsured” — their policies don’t come close to covering their medical bills. Many postpone medical care or don’t fill prescriptions because they can’t afford to pay their share of the costs. And many declare personal bankruptcy because they are unable to pay big medical debts.

The reform effort should help ease the burdens of many of them, some more quickly than others. The legislation seems almost certain to include a new marketplace, the so-called health insurance exchange. Since there will be tens of millions of new subscribers, virtually all major insurers are expected to offer policies through an exchange. To participate, these companies would have to agree to provide a specified level of benefits, and they would set premiums at rates more comparable to group rates for big employers than to the exorbitant rates typically charged for individual coverage.

Under the House bill, the exchanges would start operating in 2013. They would be open initially to people who lack any insurance; to the 13 million people who have bought individual policies from insurance companies, which often charge them high rates for relatively skimpy coverage; and to employees of small businesses, who often pay high rates for their group policies, especially if a few of their co-workers have run up high medical bills. By the third year, larger businesses might be allowed to shift their workers to an exchange. All told, the Congressional Budget Office estimates that 36 million people would be covered by policies purchased on an exchange by 2019.

IS THERE MORE SECURITY FOR ALL? As part of health reform, all insurance companies would be more tightly regulated. For Americans who are never quite certain that their policies will come through for them when needed, that is very good news.

The House bill, for example, would require that all new policies sold on or off the exchanges must offer yet-to-be-determined “essential benefits.” It would prohibit those policies from excluding or charging higher rates to people with pre-existing conditions and would bar the companies from rescinding policies after people come down with a serious illness. It would also prohibit insurers from setting annual or lifetime limits on what a policy would pay. All this would kick in immediately for all new policies. These rules would start in 2013 for policies purchased on the exchange, and, after a grace period, would apply to employer-provided plans as well.

WHO PAYS? Current estimates suggest that it would cost in the neighborhood of $1 trillion over 10 years to extend coverage to tens of millions of uninsured Americans. Under current plans, half or more of that would be covered by reducing payments to providers within the giant Medicare program, but the rest would require new taxes or revenue sources.

If President Obama and House Democratic leaders have their way, the entire tax burden would be dropped on families earning more than $250,000 or $350,000 or $1 million a year, depending on who’s talking. There is strong opposition in the Senate, and it seems likely that at least some burden would fall on the less wealthy.

Many Americans reflexively reject the idea of any new taxes — especially to pay for others’ health insurance. They should remember that if this reform effort fails, there is little hope of reining in the relentless rise of health care costs. That means their own premiums and out-of-pocket medical expenses will continue to soar faster than their wages. And they will end up paying higher taxes anyway, to cover a swelling federal deficit driven by escalating Medicare and Medicaid costs.

WHO WON’T BE HAPPY? Healthy young people who might prefer not to buy insurance at all will probably be forced to by a federal mandate. That is all to the good. When such people get into a bad accident or contract a serious illness, they often can’t pay the cost of their care, and the rest of us bear their burden. Moreover, conscripting healthy people into the insured pool would help reduce the premiums for sicker people.

Less clear is what financial burden middle-income Americans would bear when forced to buy coverage. There are concerns that the subsidies ultimately approved by Congress might not be generous enough.

WHAT IF I HAVE GOOD GROUP COVERAGE? The main gain for these people is greater security. If they got laid off or chose to leave their jobs, they would no longer be faced with the exorbitant costs of individually bought insurance but could buy new policies through the insurance exchanges at affordable rates.

President Obama has also pledged that if you like your current insurance you can keep it.

Right now employers are free to change or even drop your coverage at any time. Under likely reforms, they would remain free to do so, provided they paid a penalty to help offset the cost for their workers who would then buy coverage through an exchange. Under the House reform bill, all employers would eventually be allowed to enroll their workers in insurance exchanges that would offer an array of policies to choose from, including a public plan whose premiums would almost certainly be lower than those of competing private plans.

Some employers might well conclude that it is a better deal — for them or for you — to subsidize your coverage on the exchange rather than in your current plan. If so, you might end up with better or cheaper coverage. You would probably also have a wider choice of plans, since most employers offer only one or two options.

WILL I PAY LESS? Two factors could help drive down the premiums for those who are insured. In the short-term, if reform manages to cover most of the uninsured, that should greatly reduce the amount of charity care delivered by hospitals and eliminate the need for the hospitals to shift such costs to patients who have private insurance. One oft-cited study estimates that cost-shifting to cover care for the uninsured adds about $1,000 to a family’s annual insurance premiums; other experts think it may be a few hundred dollars. In theory, eliminating most charity care should help hold down or even reduce the premiums charged for private insurance. When, if ever, that might happen is unclear.

In the long run, if reform efforts slow the growth of health care costs, then the increase in insurance costs should ease as well. And if the new health insurance exchanges — and possibly a new public plan — inject more competition into markets that are often dominated by one or two big private insurance companies, that, too, could help bring down premiums. But these are big question marks, and the effects seem distant.

WILL MY CARE SUFFER? Critics have raised the specter that health care will be “rationed” to save money. The truth is that health care is already rationed. No insurance, public or private, covers everything at any cost. That will not change any time soon.

It is true that the long-term goal of health reform is to get rid of the fee-for-service system in which patients often get very expensive care but not necessarily the best care. Virtually all experts blame the system for runaway health care costs because it pays doctors and hospitals for each service they perform, thus providing a financial incentive to order excessive tests or treatments, some of which harm the patients.

An earlier wave of managed care plans concentrated on reining in costs and aroused a backlash among angry beneficiaries who were denied the care they wanted. The most expensive treatment is not always the best treatment. The reform bills call for research and pilot programs to find ways to both control costs and improve patients’ care.

The bills would alter payment incentives in Medicare to reduce needless readmissions to hospitals. They would promote comparative effectiveness research to determine which treatments are best but would not force doctors to use them. And they call for pilot programs in Medicare to test the best ways for doctors to manage and coordinate a patient’s total care.

Any changes in the organization of care would take time to percolate from Medicare throughout the health care system. They are unlikely to affect most people in the immediate future.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR OLDER AMERICANS? People over 65 are already covered by Medicare and would seem to have little to gain. But many of the chronically ill elderly who use lots of drugs could save significant money. The drug industry has already agreed to provide 50 percent discounts on brand-name drugs to Medicare beneficiaries who have reached the so-called “doughnut hole” where they must pay the full cost of their medicines. The House reform bill would gradually phase out the doughnut hole entirely, thus making it less likely that beneficiaries will stop taking their drugs once they have to pay the whole cost.

Not everyone in Medicare will be happy. The prospective losers are likely to include many people enrolled in the private plans that participate in Medicare, known as Medicare Advantage plans. They are heavily subsidized, and to pay for reform, Congress is likely to reduce or do away with those subsidies. If so, many of these plans are apt to charge their clients more for their current policies or offer them fewer benefits. The subsidies are hard to justify when the care could be delivered more cheaply in traditional Medicare, and the subsidies force up the premiums for the beneficiaries in traditional Medicare to cover their cost.

Reformers are planning to finance universal coverage in large part by saving money in the traditional Medicare program, raising the question of whether all beneficiaries will face a reduction in benefits. President Obama insisted that benefits won’t be reduced, they’ll simply be delivered in more efficient ways, like better coordination of care, elimination of duplicate tests and reliance on treatments known to work best.

The AARP, the main lobby for older Americans, has praised the emerging bills and thrown its weight behind the cause. All of this suggests to us that the great majority of Americans — those with insurance and those without — would benefit from health care reform.

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

July 26th, 2009
4:40 am

THE DEMOCRAPS PREFER SOCIALISM AND MARXISM SAYS THE REDNECK HICK.

THE EVIL REPUBLICANS PREFER A EVIL DICTATOR WHO BOMBS AND KILLS EVERYONE,ALSO THEY BANKRUPT AMERICA ANYTIME A REPUBLICAN IS IN OFFICE,STUPID REDNECKS ALWAYS FALL FOR THEIR NO ABORTION STOP THE GAYS LINE,AND END UP BROKE AS HELL!

P.S. THANK YOU REPUBLICANS FOR SCREWING OVER THE DUMB REDNECK,LOOK HOW STUPID THEY LOOK WITHOUT A JOB NOW,BUSH CHENEY RICE AND RUMMY GREAT JOB FOR MAKING SO MANY HILLBILLIES HOMELESS AND WITHOUT FOOD AND MONEY,HIP HIP HOORAY FOR THE GOP PARTY,WHERE ARE THOSE JOBS AT NOW NORTH AND SOUTH GEORGIA,FLAP YOUR REBEL FLAG ALL YOU WANT 2 BECAUSE I LOVE THIS TYPE OF KARMA THAT HAS CAME BACK ON YOU RACISTS WHITES!

clyde

July 26th, 2009
6:59 am

Being dilutional must be a great asset when blogging.

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
7:56 am

Beautiful AJC sensors. Great job. And, you take down my link to Robert Reich (Big Democrat) revealing his hate toward white male construction workers? :lol:

THE DEMOCRAPS PREFER SOCIALISM AND MARXISM SAYS THE REDNECK HICK.

THE EVIL REPUBLICANS PREFER A EVIL DICTATOR WHO BOMBS AND KILLS EVERYONE,ALSO THEY BANKRUPT AMERICA ANYTIME A REPUBLICAN IS IN OFFICE,STUPID REDNECKS ALWAYS FALL FOR THEIR NO ABORTION STOP THE GAYS LINE,AND END UP BROKE AS HELL!

P.S. THANK YOU REPUBLICANS FOR SCREWING OVER THE DUMB REDNECK,LOOK HOW STUPID THEY LOOK WITHOUT A JOB NOW,BUSH CHENEY RICE AND RUMMY GREAT JOB FOR MAKING SO MANY HILLBILLIES HOMELESS AND WITHOUT FOOD AND MONEY,HIP HIP HOORAY FOR THE GOP PARTY,WHERE ARE THOSE JOBS AT NOW NORTH AND SOUTH GEORGIA,FLAP YOUR REBEL FLAG ALL YOU WANT 2 BECAUSE I LOVE THIS TYPE OF KARMA THAT HAS CAME BACK ON YOU RACISTS WHITES!

Note to AJC Editor: Now you KNOW why YOU (the AJC) have EARNED the tag LIBERAL BIAS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duQDVTczGbA

Okay, now AJC prove me right, show us your “journalistic objectivity”, take it down.

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
8:15 am

AARP needs to get its act together seniors, medicare recipients will get royally screwed by this Public Option Obumer-Care.

http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/25472896/health-care-causality.htm

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
8:21 am

Obumer-Government-Care Assaults Seniors

Robbing Peter to pay Paul will usually assure you of Paul’s vote. In this instance, Older White Voters turnout in the last election was down about as much as Black Younger Voters were up, both under 5%.

Younger voters are most often among the uninsured as they see little current need for health care, barring accidents. Seniors, however are much more interested in obtaining Medicare coverage and private drug and supplemental coverages due to anticipated usage.

As pointed out in detail below, Seniors will be highly negatively impacted, or screwed, by ObamaCare.

GovernmentCare’s Assault on Seniors WSJ By Betsy McCaughey
Since Medicare was established in 1965, access to care has enabled older Americans to avoid becoming disabled and to travel and live independently instead of languishing in nursing homes. But legislation now being rushed through Congress—H.R. 3200 and the Senate Health Committee Bill—will reduce access to care, pressure the elderly to end their lives prematurely, and doom baby boomers to painful later years.

The Congressional majority wants to pay for its $1 trillion to $1.6 trillion health bills with new taxes and a $500 billion cut to Medicare. This cut will come just as baby boomers turn 65 and increase Medicare enrollment by 30%. Less money and more patients will necessitate rationing. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that only 1% of Medicare cuts will come from eliminating fraud, waste and abuse.

The assault against seniors began with the stimulus package in February. Slipped into the bill was substantial funding for comparative effectiveness research, which is generally code for limiting care based on the patient’s age. Economists are familiar with the formula, where the cost of a treatment is divided by the number of years (called QALYs, or quality-adjusted life years) that the patient is likely to benefit. In Britain, the formula leads to denying treatments for older patients who have fewer years to benefit from care than younger patients.

When comparative effectiveness research appeared in the stimulus bill, Rep. Charles Boustany Jr., (R., La.) a heart surgeon, warned that it would lead to “denying seniors and the disabled lifesaving care.” He and Sen. Jon Kyl (R., Ariz.) proposed amendments to no avail that would have barred the federal government from using the research to eliminate treatments for the elderly or deny care based on age.

In a letter this week to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, White House budget chief Peter Orszag urged Congress to delegate its authority over Medicare to a newly created body within the executive branch. This measure is designed to circumvent the democratic process and avoid accountability to the public for cuts in benefits.

Driving these cuts is the misconception that preventative care can eliminate sickness. As President Obama said in a speech to the American Medical Association: “We have to avoid illness and disease in the first place.” That would make sense if most diseases were preventable. But the two most prevalent diseases of aging—cancer and heart disease—are largely caused by genetics and their occurrence increases with age. Your risk of being diagnosed with cancer doubles from age 50 to 60, according to the National Cancer Institute.

The House bill shifts resources from specialty medicine to primary care based on the misconception that Americans overuse specialist care and drive up costs in the process (pp. 660-686). In fact, heart-disease patients treated by generalists instead of specialists are often misdiagnosed and treated incorrectly. They are readmitted to the hospital more frequently, and die sooner.

“Study after study shows that cardiologists adhere to guidelines better than primary care doctors,” according to Jeffrey Moses, a heart specialist at New York Presbyterian Hospital. Adds Jeffrey Borer, chairman of medicine at SUNY Downstate Medical Center: “Seldom do generalists have the knowledge to identify the symptoms of aortic valve disease, even though more than 10% of people over 75 have it. After valve surgery, patients who were too short of breath to walk can resume a normal life into their 80s or 90s.”

While the House bill being pushed by the president reduces access to such cures and specialists, it ensures that seniors are counseled on end-of-life options, including refusing nutrition where state law allows it (pp. 425-446). In Oregon, some cancer patients are being denied care by the state that could extend their lives and instead are afforded the benefit of physician-assisted suicide instead.

The harshest misconception underlying the legislation is that living longer burdens society. Medicare data prove this is untrue. A patient who dies at 67 spends three times as much on health care at the end of life as a patient who lives to 90, according to Dr. Herbert Pardes, CEO of New York Presbyterian Medical Center.

What is costly is when seniors become disabled. In a 2007 Health Affairs article, researchers reported that surgeries to unclog arteries and replace worn out hips and knees have had a major impact on steadily reducing disability rates. And nondisabled seniors use only one-seventh as much health care as disabled seniors. As a result, the annual increase in per capita health spending on the elderly is less than for the rest of the population.

Nevertheless, Medicare is running out of money. The problem is the number of seniors compared with the smaller number of workers supporting the system with payroll taxes. To remedy the problem, the Congressional Budget Office has suggested inching up the eligibility age one month per year until it reaches age 70 in 2043, or asking wealthy seniors to pay more.

These are reasonable solutions—reducing access to treatments and counseling seniors about cutting life short are not. Medicare has made living to a ripe old age a good value. ObamaCare will undo that.

Ms. McCaughey is chairman of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths and a former lieutenant governor of New York state.

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
8:52 am

So, the loony liberal left is worried about Sarah Palin?

Get a load of Joe Biden acting stupidly, speaking stupidly.


“Russia has to make some very difficult, calculated decisions,” Mr. Biden said. “They have a shrinking population base, they have a withering economy, they have a banking sector and structure that is not likely to be able to withstand the next 15 years, they’re in a situation where the world is changing before them and they’re clinging to something in the past that is not sustainable.”

Way to go Joe, you may have Reset relation with Russia back about 30 years!

Somehow I feel better with the idea of Sarah Palin just seeing Russia from her house than knowing Joe Biden from the White House is opening his mouth speaking stupidly about Russia.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124846217750479721.html

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

July 26th, 2009
10:37 am

MICHAEL H.SMITH DID I LIE ON MY POST,IT IS AMAZING THAT YOU RACIST CRACKERS CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH,U NEVER DISPUTE THE TRUTH,BUT U ONLY RUN FROM THE TRUTH,AND JIMBO LEAVE MY BLOG UP ITS THE TRUTH ABOUT REPUBLICANS,WHERE ARE THE JOBS MIKE?

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
12:05 pm

The AJC is not going to permit my reply?

Unbelievable.

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
12:11 pm

So much for journalistic objectivity.

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
12:15 pm

So much for objective journalism. :lol:

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
12:22 pm

The loony liberal left eagerly awaits the conservative voice of Kyle Wingfield. They can’t stand the fact Kyle’s blog isn’t open for comment. Some have even made accusation, wrongly of course, that he is dodging ducking etc. . Truth is, as some would know who probably e-mailed Kyle, the matter probably is one of schedules.

However, Kyle is right on target in his latest Op Ed. A more timely perspective would be absent had he not made this call on the 2010 race for governor: It’s going to be a wet one, fortunately, though very unusual relative to the due course of past Georgia history.

Usually, what transpires after the up-evils of a drought, after all the political gamesmanship, finger pointing and blaster subsides with the return of rain on Georgia’s dry hard baked red clay the issue and concerns simply get washed away while the politicos go back to their aquatic slumbers as it were, placing all their urgent well thought-out plans of eminent action back on the old dusty shelf in the musty basement under the Gold Dome.

Now with global warming as an item, a thing which will continue in debate more so on the merits of what appropriate actions will be taken rather than focusing on continuing defeatist denials arguing over its’ actual existence and whether it is “induced by man” or “influenced by man”, the opportunity to make connections might occur in regards to the ever changing climate that presents global challenges on the local level – Or, as Thomas Friedman might say, Gloacal.

So all that gobbled-garbage is supposed to mean something?

Hopefully yes. Georgia is not the only place on earth that has water problems. Along with global warming there is global dryness. The world, not only Georgia and the Southern half of the U.S. faces water challenges near future. Two thirds of the earth’s surface is water and only about one percent of that water is fresh drinkable water. What do to and where to get water, fresh drinkable water, is no less of a challenge that must be met than global warming. Praying to the heavens for meteors to bring in a few ice crystals from some far slung place out in space is certainly not the answer nor is asking God for more abundance, especially when that God has already given earth and humans everything that is needed right at the ocean’s shores.

Instead of turning to the heavens in prayer, turning to prey the oceans is the most logical answer: Costly perhaps, though cheap when the alternative is the inevitable absence of fresh drinkable water and hence the thought of possible absence of life. Desalinization was of course kicked around once upon a time, actually money was appropriated or said to be for that very purpose to study employing desalinization to deliver needed fresh drinkable water to Atlanta. Fortunately time has wrought advances to the process of desalinization: Like co-generation, which gives the green co-benefits of producing electricity, fresh water and zero CO2.

Unfortunately, the loony liberal left dominated by a faction of evrio-wingnut-jobs (to coin a phrase) that sways the Democrats now in power and total control of the Federal Government will oppose nuclear co-generation despite the proven science behind it and despite the fact it produces no CO2; and they my friends are part, if not all of the problem and absolutely none of the answer as proud members of the B.A.N.A.N.A. Republic – Governed by the sole law of Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything.

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
1:59 pm

Want jobs? Want to know where the jobs are, short term and long term that can’t be exported, will return a yield on a national investment unlike Obumer’s national porkulus spending and actually build some real critical infrastructure?

Best ask the Democrats in Congress that will stand in the way of allowing Georgia to build, or in conjunction with sister states to build, advanced nuclear co-generation plants including the needed accompanying reservoirs without any delay to provide water for drinking and crop irrigation.

Crop irrigation? :shock:

Did someone just drop South Georgia’s voters into the side pocket and leave the Democrats behind the proverbial eight ball, Kyle?

clyde

July 26th, 2009
2:58 pm

Only the names are changed to protect the innocent.

I’ve read Kyle Wingfield a couple of times.Didn’t care for his style.Don’t care if he blogs or not.

If I were the cop I wouldn’t be going to The White House.He has nothing to gain and a lot to lose.He’ll never again have any credibility.Good time to look for another career.The race card was played by a master and his perp was turned loose.

AmVet

July 26th, 2009
3:06 pm

Go ahead and yuck it up Republiconned.

You are the very last of the unevolved to even realize you’re going the way of the dodo.

Zogby: GOP Faces Extinction Risk

Pollster John Zogby tells Newsmax that the Republican Party could be “teetering on the brink” of extinction as it fails to appeal to the fastest-growing demographic groups in America.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/zogby_gop_extinction/2009/07/25/240044.html

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
4:17 pm

You gotta love it when a liberal makes your case.

Martella noted that the United States is still said to be a center-right nation, and polls have been showing that Americans increasingly believe President Barack Obama is a liberal. “Could that pave the way for a possible Republican resurgence?” he asked.

“The premise of your question is true,” Zogby responded.

“About 40 percent of the electorate does in fact consider themselves to be conservatives; 20 percent or 22 percent [consider themselves] liberals. It’s that big middle that’s a concern.

“And for conservatives, there have been some that have been turned off over the [George W.] Bush years, for a variety of reasons.

“But the issue is, winning the middle. It’s still a long way to go from 40 percent to 51 percent, and that’s a difficulty.

Comment:

Yeah, John boy, and it’s even a farther distance from 21 percent to 51 percent. :lol:

My calculations say conservatives only need to persuade 11 percent out of the middle 39 percent to reach 51 percent. The liberals will have to persuade 30 percent out of that middle 39 percent to reach the magic 51 percent. Gotta like the reading of what those political tea leaves are saying, if you’re a conservative.

Yep, winning the middle is the issue. It is not winning the ethnocentric groups through the bigoted strategy of playing divisive derisive identity politics.

~

“Republicans certainly score points by being critical of Obama, by raising questions about spending. But for now, there is no pro-active program. There’s just putting up a hand as a stop sign and saying halt.”

Martella asked if Obama’s declining approval ratings could be good new news for Republicans.

“It certainly could be for the GOP,” he said.

“I have the president at about 50 percent . . . Good news, but always think of the horizon — what’s the next act for the Republicans? And is this a factor of just saying no to a change program, putting up the yellow light for caution, or is this a response to a Republican conservative agenda? Right now I don’t think it’s a response to a Republican conservative agenda.”

Comment:

You actually now have Obumer at 48 percent, John. Ah, but who is counting a couple of percentage points: Like Dick Morris didn’t sweat drops blood for two percentage points to improve Bill Clinton’s falling numbers?

http://www.zogby.com/

~

Martella pointed out that the cap-and-trade program to curb carbon emissions and the major healthcare overhaul both appear to be stalled, and asked if that too could be good for Republicans.

“Potentially it could be, so long as there is an alternative,” Zogby said.

Comment:

And, Conservatives do have alternatives. Very good, cost effective alternatives to Obumer’s liberal socialists national bankrupting agenda on energy, practical environmental conservation and healthcare.

But for now, there is no pro-active program.

Did I say anything like that recently publically to the Republicans, goading them to go on the offense with their healthcare plan which offers the Private Public Option or as it is now called Co-Op healthcare, which even conservative – Go Blue Dog – Democrats like and probably could agree upon in passing as a major bi-partisan healthcare bill in lieu of the extremely partisan fiscally unsound healthcare rationing ObumerCare-Public Option?

Obummer Plan

July 26th, 2009
4:20 pm

AmVet

July 26th, 2009
4:42 pm

“You gotta love it when a liberal makes your case.”

“My calculations say conservatives only need to persuade 11 percent out of the middle 39 percent to reach 51 percent.”

Might as well be 100%. WAY too many Americans have finally woken up to the obvious fact that the the Republican Party is in it’s current hemmorhaging condition, the antithesis to American conservatism.

Worse like some petulant and spoiled teenage brat they can’t figure out why nobody likes them.

And even worse than that, they have nary a freaking clue what conservatism actually is. LOL!

So the reality is the millions and millions of independents, undecideds, moderates and disgusted Republicans (many lifelong) have bolted your faux-conservative clusterf&ck quicker than a UGA Young Republican can cross the street to avoid getting near an AFEES station.

But keep on dreaming. Maybe you can improve on that jaw dropping 94% losing percentage over the past two national elections. From sea to shining sea.

But really, who are you kidding? Besides yourselves…

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
4:52 pm

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 29% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -11. That’s the first time his ratings have reached double digits in negative territory…

Have fun Jerko. America truly is waking up to Obumer. No kidding.

Obumer’s Presidential Approval Index Rating now stands at -11.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
5:02 pm

53% Now Oppose Congressional Health Care Reform

The big problem appears to be that Americans just aren’t into the health reform plan, the more they find out about it. Now voters oppose the plan proposed by the president and congressional Democrats by a nine-point margin, 53% to 44%. In late June, it was the other way around: 50% supported it, 45% were opposed.

There is a huge partisan divide on the health care plan. Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Democrats favor it. However, the plan is opposed by 80% of Republicans and 60% of those not affiliated with either major party.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/healthcare/july_2009/53_now_oppose_congressional_health_care_reform

Northside Towing

July 26th, 2009
5:49 pm

Hey folks…Ever see those beautiful $100000.00 plus bright green box trucks called HERO UNITS running around the interstate system here in Georgia? Yeah they will bring you gas, change your tire, try real hard to restart your car and all this for FREE? As a towing and roadside assistance provider I am already a victim of the new socialist agenda. My company would do this for a fair rate and I would pay an employee and pay taxes on the revenue. I bet they do upwards of 500 service calls a day FREE? Remember this is all FREE? So remember Teachers, Police men and women. fire fighters, GSP when you are out enjoying your furlough days and you have a flat or run out of gas simply call 511 to redeem your free service :-) OUR TAX DOLLARS KILLING TAX DOLLARS…WHAT A COUNTRY :-)

FAILED LIBERALISM

July 26th, 2009
6:03 pm

Michael H. Smith: you are pissing in the wind dealing with these atrocious hater representatives of the current left. Do you think these American freedom haters care about your links and TOTUS poll numbers? You may as well yap with a brick wall.

FAILED LIBERALISM

July 26th, 2009
6:22 pm

Had the pleasure of listening to NPR this morning and some pinhead was defending socialized health care. The priceless moment came when he said “people who listen to Fox News aren’t informed of the facts.” Yup. Tell me how hilarious that is. Naturally, the bot NPR interviewer didn’t ask questions like WHY IS SWEDEN LOOKING AT GOING PRIVATE AGAIN.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1560728/socialized_medicine_in_europe.html?cat=5

You have to keep in mind the same idiots who believe in government run health care in this nation also believe in other socialist ideologies in EU nations. Except, of course nuclear energy.

Peter Hoffman Atlanta

July 26th, 2009
6:28 pm

FROM THE FIRST BOOK OF DEMOCRAT PSALM 2008-2012 OBAMA IS MY SHEPHERD I SHALL NOT WANT. HE LEADETH ME BESIDE THE STILL FACTORIES. HE RESTORETH MY FAITH IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. HE GUIDETH ME IN THE PATH OF UNEMPLOYMENT. YEA, THOUGH I WALK THRU THE VALLEY OF THE BREAD LINE, I SHALL NOT GO HUNGRY

FAILED LIBERALISM

July 26th, 2009
6:31 pm

‘53% Now Oppose Congressional Health Care Reform”

Micheal H. Smith: you do realize that 87% of this nation actually HAS a health care plan, and of those, nearly 90% are actually HAPPY with their coverage, right? But don’t take my word for it:

http://kudlow.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGE5OWFjYWU1OWNhOTMxNzAxYzQ1ZDFlMTdhN2QyNzU=

Yep, let’s destroy 20% of this nation’s economy and turn it over to the libtard run government. Yeah, that same libtard government that told us unemployment wouldn’t get above 8% and is now saying they “miscalculated.”

FAILED LIBERALISM

July 26th, 2009
6:49 pm

Huh. The Washington Post is actually questioning the COST of Obamacare. I’m going to pinch myself. But, they failed to mention the CBO’s report that completely contradicted Speaker Pelosi’s comment that it will pay for itself with savings of government itself. They also fail to mention the non-success story of Medicare’s money pit. But for a libtard news outlet, this is better than nothing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/25/AR2009072501949_pf.html

FAILED LIBERALISM

July 26th, 2009
7:04 pm

“You gotta love it when a liberal makes your case: “Martella noted that the United States is still said to be a center-right nation, and polls have been showing that Americans increasingly believe President Barack Obama is a liberal. “Could that pave the way for a possible Republican resurgence?” he asked. “The premise of your question is true,” Zogby responded.”

Michael H. Smith – methinks the mindless libtards are starting to get concerned, and that’s why you see such vitriol from the horseassed left on this blog. I thought we Conservatives were not longer relevant. Yet, here these fecal slinging monkey are on this blog wasting their wretched lives away. Laughable.

FAILED LIBERALISM

July 26th, 2009
7:07 pm

“WASHINGTON, July 24 (Reuters) – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Friday there had been some progress toward reviving Israeli-Palestinian peace talks in the “near future” and announced $200 million in U.S. aid to the Palestinians. Clinton said the money, which is part of a $900 million pledge she made in March at a donors conference in Egypt, was transferred directly to the Western-backed Palestinian Authority and would help it meet a budget shortfall.”

Yup, we’ll see if the Israeli hating libtards have any comment about the US spending money THERE. [chirp...chirp...chirp...chirp...chirp...chirp...]

FAILED LIBERALISM

July 26th, 2009
7:15 pm

“Hey folks…Ever see those beautiful $100000.00 plus bright green box trucks called HERO UNITS running around the interstate system here in Georgia? Yeah they will bring you gas, change your tire, try real hard to restart your car and all this for FREE? As a towing and roadside assistance provider I am already a victim of the new socialist agenda.”

Hey Northside Towing: all you have to do is bend over for libtard run Fulton County and pay their tax rape fees. Hell, who knows, you may even be eligible for having an advertisement paid by State Farm as the last one I saw had.

AmVet

July 26th, 2009
7:16 pm

Failed (or whatever moniker you will use next week) at 6:03,

I have no earthly idea, and care even less of course, where you have been, what you have or have not done and learned in life and who you know.

But I have traveled to 44 out of the fifty United States. From Miami to Seattle. From San Diego to Boston. From Kauai to Kansas. From tiny villages to New York City and Los Angeles. From gullah communities to Beverly Hills. Deserts, prairies, mountains and forests. I have known and been befriended by black men, white men, brown men, red men and yellow men.

And in all of those enormously satisfying and extensive travels I have never once met an American who as you assert, hates freedom or hates America herself. Not one. Ever. Never.

That you seem to use the term so cavalierly indicates that maybe you are hanging out with the worst of people, in the wrong places, at the wrong time.

Or even more likely with a miserable family and dishonorable friends who do in fact hate a whole host of other Americans for all sorts of concocted reasons.

But obviously your impotent anger and loathing for that which you cannot understand nor even see coming, makes you feel like a real man here.

Endless light entertainment to be sure, but really, What a waste…

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
7:23 pm

FAILED LIBERALISM

July 26th, 2009
6:03 pm

If I were dealing with these loony liberal lefties for their benefit – which I’m not – then you would be geographically correct in assuming the direction and location of my micturition.

Just 11 percent out of the 39 percent in the middle-centrists have to care enough to read what I say, articles re-posted, the links (noticed you used one of those ;) ) and Obumer’s poll numbers that reveal he is not as popular as the mainstream news media makes him out be in the eyes of Americans.

While more non-political people probably read these blogs than ever dare to make comments, I would not insult their intelligence by considering them or their minds to be impenetrable brick walls. After all, I’m dousing the liberal’s agenda and not the centrists in the middle that conservatives need to win elections in 2010.

FAILED LIBERALISM

July 26th, 2009
7:33 pm

“I have no earthly idea, and care even less of course, where you have been, what you have or have not done and learned in life and who you know.”

Uh huh. But yet here you are replying to a post of mine ShamVet.

“But I have traveled to 44 out of the fifty United States. From Miami to Seattle. From San Diego to Boston. From Kauai to Kansas….” blah blah.

Who gives a damn? I’ve been behind the IRON CURTAIN. So what?

“And in all of those enormously satisfying and extensive travels I have never once met an American who as you assert, hates freedom or hates America herself. Not one. Ever. Never.”

Yup, and raising taxes on those who are successful (ie: those enjoying FREEDOM) and wishing to destroy 20% of this nation’s economy (read: GM government success story) so a minute amount of people can have health “care” (as if they don’t ALREADY) is just so ALL about freedom now, isn’t it?

Oh, and I won’t EVEN get into the “freedom” of owning a gun like your ilk vilifies – whether or not you agree with that is irrelevant. Those areYOUR people. The record speaks for itself, as does libtardism in general.

FAILED LIBERALISM

July 26th, 2009
7:49 pm

The irony on a libtard attempting to defend libtard anti-freedom in America just oozes with irony.

FAILED LIBERALISM

July 26th, 2009
7:54 pm

“I have no earthly idea, and care even less of course, where you have been, what you have or have not done and learned in life and who you know.”

By the way, when the HELL did I ever make a comment about who I am, where I’ve been, and what I’ve done?

See, this is the mentality of libtardism. They attempt to get personal because they are nothing but a bunch of emotion driven children who can’t actually debate back what you’ve thrown out.

Michael H. Smith

July 26th, 2009
10:20 pm

Unbelievable.

Folks we are seriously be intentional kept in the dark on what is in these healthcare ObumerCare bills. I can only hope this comment is posted and people that normally don’t get involved in politics, the middle of the road people that don’t follow politics at all will visit this Website. You are not going to believe some of the things you are going to read. If you are a senior citizen take action now, AARP is selling you down the river literally by signing on to this garbage, especially if you are on Medicare.

Whatever health insurance bill is passed in Congress MUST apply to members of Congress and other federal employees.
No Exceptions.

I’m with you all the way on that statement Betsy McCaughey.

http://www.defendyourhealthcare.us/home.html

Ram the legislation through--they're inconsequential

July 27th, 2009
12:29 am

LOL–What keeps Michael Smith in the dark all his life is his frontal lobe. Michael Smith like all pubtards don’t understand anything remotely medical including health care issues–which is why in the final analysis, it won’t be their decision.

As the band played “She’s a brick house” the door slammed and banged untreated Borderline Personality in the mooseburgers. Rambling and stupid as always:

Phoebe Maurer and LB Abbey, also in their 20s, said they live near the Park Strip and wanted to see the picnic, have some free food. Maurer said Palin can’t be expected to be taken seriously as a presidential candidate after quitting her job as governor. Abbey said he thinks Palin is a “moron” who has been kind of embarrassing for Alaska.

We slowed the rate of government growth, and I vetoed hundreds of millions of dollars of government excess,” she said, veering into a rant about Hollywood and the right to bear arms.

You’re gonna see anti-hunting, anti-Second Amendment circuses from Hollywood. They use Alaska as a fundraising tool for their anti-Second Amendment causes… Hollywood needs to know: ‘We eat, therefore we hunt….

“What I promised, we accomplished.

“We can resist enslavement to big central government. Beware of accepting big government largesse… melting into Washington’s powerful arms….. I resisted the stimulus package.In honor of the American soldier, ya quit makin’ things up!”

Rick in Grayson

July 27th, 2009
5:35 am

From Roy Beck regarding complete medical coverage for illegals and their children. Nancy Pelosi is apparently sponsoring this enormous expense:

So, what does CHC, (Congressional Hispanic Caucus), want Pelosi to add to the House Health Bill to make sure 12-20 million illegal aliens get full taxpayer-paid health coverage?

Nothing.

That is because CHC apparently feels that the House Bill as written pretty well guarantees the coverage. Look:

Asked if CHC leaders will ask Pelosi to specifically spell something out in the bill to address illegal immigrants, the Member said no. Rather, the Member said the CHC simply wants to make sure the bill � as drafted � doesn’t prohibit illegal immigrants from accessing care.
– Roll Call

Our allies on the Hill have been making just this point. Speaker Pelosi and others have been trying to say that the House plan doesn’t cover illegal aliens because it doesn’t specifically say that it does. Our allies, however, point out that unless legislation specifically bars illegal aliens from anything — and requires verification — illegal aliens always end up getting the benefit.

The fact that the Hispanic Caucus appears to be satisfied with the language the way it is suggests that our allies are right.

This bears repeating! Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and the rest of the Democrats and the Hispanic Caucus intend to pass a HEALTHCARE BILL that gives BENEFITS TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!

We will have enough trouble providing healthcare benefits to US citizens! US citizens are not OBLIGATED to support ILLEGAL ALIENS!

The cost will be 20 million (including their children including ANCHOR BABIES) X $7,000 = $140 BILLION EACH YEAR to provide healthcare for illegal aliens. At the same time, they take jobs from US citizens and legal residents, have a high birth rate, and will bring in their extended families via further immigration to balloon this cost to over $250 BILLION EACH YEAR over the next 15 years (not adjusted for inflation).

JOIN NUMBERSUSA at http://www.numbersusa.com! It is free and they provide excellent programs to fax your discontent to President Obama and members of Congress!

Join NUMBERSUSA to help stop this healthcare bill granting benefits to illegal aliens at a HIGH COST TO US CITIZENS!

Saxby Chambliss at work for Georgia

July 27th, 2009
10:29 am

Ram the legislation through--they're inconsequential

July 27th, 2009
10:39 am

The Obama healthcare plan will give healthcare benefits to you Grayson, and you could start by getting at least as educated as a 3rd grader as to your own health. It would take me 90 seconds to embarass you and show you that you don’t have a clue as to how to minimize your own health risks.

Blaming aliens, peole of color and Acorns has your party crushed and out of power where they will stay until you die.

Ram the legislation through--they're inconsequential

July 27th, 2009
11:19 am

July 27, 2009

Op-Ed Columnist

An Incoherent Truth By PAUL KRUGMAN, Nobel Prize Economics, 2008

Right now the fate of health care reform seems to rest in the hands of relatively conservative Democrats — mainly members of the Blue Dog Coalition, created in 1995. And you might be tempted to say that President Obama needs to give those Democrats what they want.

But he can’t — because the Blue Dogs aren’t making sense.

To grasp the problem, you need to understand the outline of the proposed reform (all of the Democratic plans on the table agree on the essentials.)

Reform, if it happens, will rest on four main pillars: regulation, mandates, subsidies and competition.

By regulation I mean the nationwide imposition of rules that would prevent insurance companies from denying coverage based on your medical history, or dropping your coverage when you get sick. This would stop insurers from gaming the system by covering only healthy people.

On the other side, individuals would also be prevented from gaming the system: Americans would be required to buy insurance even if they’re currently healthy, rather than signing up only when they need care. And all but the smallest businesses would be required either to provide their employees with insurance, or to pay fees that help cover the cost of subsidies — subsidies that would make insurance affordable for lower-income American families.

Finally, there would be a public option: a government-run insurance plan competing with private insurers, which would help hold down costs.

The subsidy portion of health reform would cost around a trillion dollars over the next decade. In all the plans currently on the table, this expense would be offset with a combination of cost savings elsewhere and additional taxes, so that there would be no overall effect on the federal deficit.

So what are the objections of the Blue Dogs?

Well, they talk a lot about fiscal responsibility, which basically boils down to worrying about the cost of those subsidies. And it’s tempting to stop right there, and cry foul. After all, where were those concerns about fiscal responsibility back in 2001, when most conservative Democrats voted enthusiastically for that year’s big Bush tax cut — a tax cut that added $1.35 trillion to the deficit?

But it’s actually much worse than that — because even as they complain about the plan’s cost, the Blue Dogs are making demands that would greatly increase that cost.

There has been a lot of publicity about Blue Dog opposition to the public option, and rightly so: a plan without a public option to hold down insurance premiums would cost taxpayers more than a plan with such an option.

But Blue Dogs have also been complaining about the employer mandate, which is even more at odds with their supposed concern about spending. The Congressional Budget Office has already weighed in on this issue: without an employer mandate, health care reform would be undermined as many companies dropped their existing insurance plans, forcing workers to seek federal aid — and causing the cost of subsidies to balloon. It makes no sense at all to complain about the cost of subsidies and at the same time oppose an employer mandate.

So what do the Blue Dogs want?

Maybe they’re just being complete hypocrites. It’s worth remembering the history of one of the Blue Dog Coalition’s founders: former Representative Billy Tauzin of Louisiana. Mr. Tauzin switched to the Republicans soon after the group’s creation; eight years later he pushed through the 2003 Medicare Modernization Act, a deeply irresponsible bill that included huge giveaways to drug and insurance companies. And then he left Congress to become, yes, the lavishly paid president of PhRMA, the pharmaceutical industry lobby.

One interpretation, then, is that the Blue Dogs are basically following in Mr. Tauzin’s footsteps: if their position is incoherent, it’s because they’re nothing but corporate tools, defending special interests. And as the Center for Responsive Politics pointed out in a recent report, drug and insurance companies have lately been pouring money into Blue Dog coffers.

But I guess I’m not quite that cynical. After all, today’s Blue Dogs are politicians who didn’t go the Tauzin route — they didn’t switch parties even when the G.O.P. seemed to hold all the cards and pundits were declaring the Republican majority permanent. So these are Democrats who, despite their relative conservatism, have shown some commitment to their party and its values.

Now, however, they face their moment of truth. For they can’t extract major concessions on the shape of health care reform without dooming the whole project: knock away any of the four main pillars of reform, and the whole thing will collapse — and probably take the Obama presidency down with it.

Is that what the Blue Dogs really want to see happen? We’ll soon find out.

Hank

July 27th, 2009
2:03 pm

The best way to get rational, non-partisan (read: normal) people to discredit your entire opinion is use childish, insulting nick-names like “Obummer”. Are you in middle school or something? Seriously- write like an adult, stop the name-calling, quit copy-and-pasting, and argue your own points.

And Sonny has been a disgrace to Georgia for a long time. He has done absolutely NOTHING productive about transportation, education, water, or anything else of any real consequence, and he’s a corrupt crook on top of that. So thank him? No. He can go Sonny-Do himself.

Timmy T

July 27th, 2009
2:15 pm

I agree with cutting the F-22 program (if the Sec of Def says we don’t need it- WE DON’T NEED IT), but it’s hilarious to hear these people calling the Raptor “ancient” and “old technology” and saying they’re falling apart from old age. The dates of design concepts aren’t don’t mean the planes are old. The first production F-22 didn’t come out until 2003! Saying the software is from 1983 is asinine- a lot of the most cutting-edge computers and software today still use derivatives of UNIX code invented in the 60’s and 70’s. The F-22 is BY FAR the most advanced and capable air superiority fighter on the planet.
It’s a good call to use our defense dollars on what we actually need today and in the foreseeable future- and that’s not F-22’s- but I sure hope they keep the blueprints around somewhere for whenever WWIII breaks out.

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 27th, 2009
4:27 pm

When WW III breaks out, Michael Jackson and cops doing what they do thousands of times a day, arresting people who dare to stand up to them in their own home, after getting into their own home with suitcases, will still be dominating the news in we be stupid America.

The website Politico is funded and run by Publitards, and still makes them look stupid.

Is being the Republican party’s most popular politician equated to being the least popular or most popular STD?

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 27th, 2009
4:33 pm

Timmy–

Maybe you can trade in your SUV for one of the 183 either sitting around gathering dust or buildingic up millions in maintenance costs per flight hour and run the hummers and all the idiots with fog light headlights off the road. The F22 prototypes have been around for years and years prior to 2001 that are very similar, and the avionics software package was on line in 2001 and now the F22 is dead, and the porkers Issacson, Chamblis and anyone who voted for it (Cal, Ct., blue dogs, Palin supporters) is exposed as wasteful porkers.

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 27th, 2009
4:38 pm

LOL do Americans get any f_cking dumber? The woman who called in the Gates’ “breakin” and reported 2 suitcases with them has retained an attorney. No matter how stupid they are, they all have attorneys.

Why isn’t there a National Legal Defense Program being debated with a public lawyer plan really funded well instead of the joke funding for defender programs?

Michael H. Smith

July 27th, 2009
4:39 pm

brucie wilcox you pathetic socialist liberal DEMbecile with your last two remaining half functional oxygen depleted brain cells you wouldn’t know if it was night or day.

For the rest of us with live functioning brains who don’t need the assistance of external oxygen devices in order to walk to the mailbox and back with out collapsing, here’s a glimpse of what might be in store for some poor lifelong government teat sucker like brain dead brucie who could become the victim of social justice, if the money could be better spent on somebody else.

Sweet dreams brucie.

~

DEADLY DOCTORS

O ADVISORS WANT TO RATION CARE

By BETSY MCCAUGHEY

July 24, 2009 –

THE health bills coming out of Congress would put the decisions about your care in the hands of presidential appointees. They’d decide what plans cover, how much leeway your doctor will have and what seniors get under Medicare.

Yet at least two of President Obama’s top health advisers should never be trusted with that power.

Start with Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. He has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research.

Emanuel bluntly admits that the cuts will not be pain-free. “Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely ‘lipstick’ cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change,” he wrote last year (Health Affairs Feb. 27, 2008).

Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, “as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others” (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008).

Yes, that’s what patients want their doctors to do. But Emanuel wants doctors to look beyond the needs of their patients and consider “social justice”, such as whether the money could be better spent on somebody else.

Many doctors are horrified by this notion; they’ll tell you that a doctor’s job is to achieve social justice one patient at a time.

Emanuel, however, believes that “communitarianism” should guide decisions on who gets care. He says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those “who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia” (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. ‘96).

Translation: Don’t give much care to a grandmother with Parkinson’s or a child with cerebral palsy.

He explicitly defends discrimination against older patients: “Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years” (Lancet, Jan. 31).

The bills being rushed through Congress will be paid for largely by a $500 billion-plus cut in Medicare over 10 years. Knowing how unpopular the cuts will be, the president’s budget director, Peter Orszag, urged Congress this week to delegate its own authority over Medicare to a new, presidentially-appointed bureaucracy that wouldn’t be accountable to the public.

Since Medicare was founded in 1965, seniors’ lives have been transformed by new medical treatments such as angioplasty, bypass surgery and hip and knee replacements. These innovations allow the elderly to lead active lives. But Emanuel criticizes Americans for being too “enamored with technology” and is determined to reduce access to it.

Dr. David Blumenthal, another key Obama adviser, agrees. He recommends slowing medical innovation to control health spending.

Blumenthal has long advocated government health-spending controls, though he concedes they’re “associated with longer waits” and “reduced availability of new and expensive treatments and devices” (New England Journal of Medicine, March 8, 2001). But he calls it “debatable” whether the timely care Americans get is worth the cost. (Ask a cancer patient, and you’ll get a different answer. Delay lowers your chances of survival.)

Obama appointed Blumenthal as national coordinator of health-information technology, a job that involves making sure doctors obey electronically delivered guidelines about what care the government deems appropriate and cost effective.

In the April 9 New England Journal of Medicine, Blumenthal predicted that many doctors would resist “embedded clinical decision support” — a euphemism for computers telling doctors what to do.

Americans need to know what the president’s health advisers have in mind for them. Emanuel sees even basic amenities as luxuries and says Americans expect too much: “Hospital rooms in the United States offer more privacy . . . physicians’ offices are typically more conveniently located and have parking nearby and more attractive waiting rooms” (JAMA, June 18, 2008).

No one has leveled with the public about these dangerous views. Nor have most people heard about the arm-twisting, Chicago-style tactics being used to force support. In a Nov. 16, 2008, Health Care Watch column, Emanuel explained how business should be done: “Every favor to a constituency should be linked to support for the health-care reform agenda. If the automakers want a bailout, then they and their suppliers have to agree to support and lobby for the administration’s health-reform effort.”

Do we want a “reform” that empowers people like this to decide for us?

~

For some strange reason taking a fascist assigned dirt nap doesn’t appeal to me. Like I said folks:

Whatever health insurance bill is passed in Congress MUST apply to the POTUS, members of Congress and all other federal employees.

No Exceptions!

If the Public Option is good enough for anyone of us, then it should be good enough for every single one of them.

http://www.defendyourhealthcare.us/home.html

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 27th, 2009
4:50 pm

brucie wilcox is a figment of this unimployed male Palin Micheal Smith’s delusions.

Michael H. Smith

July 27th, 2009
5:36 pm

The nearly ever present always oxygen deprived delusional brucie wilcox is so brain dead he hasn’t noticed I don’t spend all of my time on these blogs – unlike brucie posing under pseudonyms making endless tangential commentaries.

Jeez brucie, could that mean I actually have job that occupies the time of my missing presence from these blogs?

DUH! :lol:

Stomp the tards--they make it easy.

July 27th, 2009
5:45 pm

The more you see someone like “Smith” posting garbage, because they lack education the better you understand why Democrats stomped the Tards in 2012. The male Palins that dominate the pubtards insure we will continue to win, continue to do what we want to get done to improve the lives of Americans, and continue to dominate votes in the House and the Senate.

The only thing Tards are left to do is to sit at their keyboards and cry..

Michael H. Smith

July 27th, 2009
6:10 pm

All the brain dead brucies of this world can do is insure DEMbeciles of like demeanor will lose.

Hmm… What happened in ‘96? Not a good year for Dems. What hoppened (sic) in 2000, OMG! The Dems saw RED. Oh well, moving along to ‘04: A little better but no White House.

Yep year after year the brucies just win and win.

Might want to ask one of these loser crybaby brucies if you meet-up with one of them exactly how government deciding when is the best time for you to die is an improvement to the your longevity of days.

For some strange reason taking a fascist – ObumerCare – assigned dirt nap doesn’t appeal to me. Like I said folks:

Whatever health insurance bill is passed in Congress MUST apply to the POTUS, members of Congress and all other federal employees.

No Exceptions!

If the Public Option is good enough for anyone of us, then it should be good enough for every single one of them.

http://www.defendyourhealthcare.us/home.html

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 27th, 2009
7:02 pm

New home sales up 11% since June 2008 when a moron was in the West Wing and two morons that are now over were running for the Tard party.

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 27th, 2009
7:04 pm

A public option applies to everyone as an option but if you’re severele mentally ill like Smith, you’re going to need a caretaker to get you to the doctor and talk to the doctor for you.

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 27th, 2009
8:04 pm

It’s completely impossible to tell Sarah Moronlin from Tina Fey making fun of her.

Michael H. Smith

July 27th, 2009
8:44 pm

brucie wilcox your ObumerCare Public Option has been delayed, this should give people time to read all the rotten crap buried in these fascist government Obumer healthcare bills that will take away their choice, possibly their very life and it will create huge deficit spending.

Worry about yourself brucie, I’m doing fine and my healthcare is very good too. Unlike you I don’t have to suck on a wind bottle to walk more than 100 feet across the parking lot to GJAC nor do I need a caretaker bench placed halfway in between to sit my fat butt down for fear of collapsing to the ground.

In your condition, given your support of fascist ObumerCare and considering Obumer’s Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel’s “social justice” your public option is going to be very, very limited. I hope no one else who reads this shares your socialist liberal “dementia”.

~

Emanuel bluntly admits that the cuts will not be pain-free. “Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely ‘lipstick’ cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change,” he wrote last year (Health Affairs Feb. 27, 2008).

Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, “as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others” (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008).

Yes, that’s what patients want their doctors to do. But Emanuel wants doctors to look beyond the needs of their patients and consider “social justice”, such as whether the money could be better spent on somebody else.

Many doctors are horrified by this notion; they’ll tell you that a doctor’s job is to achieve social justice one patient at a time.

Emanuel, however, believes that “communitarianism” should guide decisions on who gets care. He says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those “who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia” (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. ‘96).

~

Whatever health insurance bill is passed in Congress MUST apply to the POTUS, members of Congress and all other federal employees.

No Exceptions!

If the Public Option is good enough for anyone of us, then it should be good enough for every single one of them.

http://www.defendyourhealthcare.us/home.html

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 27th, 2009
11:32 pm

I don’t read Smith anymore. Life is better that way, and we can ignore the Tards and do what we want.

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 27th, 2009
11:33 pm

“We hunt [in helicopters] to eat [wolves]“

Ram It Through--We Don't Want 'em

July 28th, 2009
12:07 am

Pubtard Whackjob Jim\ Bunning out of the race in Ky. It will be the first open Senate seat for the state since Bunning replaced the retiring Wendell Ford in 1998 as the former Phillies pitcher waves buh buh.

Mac

July 28th, 2009
8:10 am

You woulda thunk the AJC would plan better and not leave their opinion page a ghost town for at least a whole week. Geez.

Sharon Harkins

July 30th, 2009
3:25 pm

Every time I read about criticism of the Go Fish program, it drives me nuts. A major professional tournament brings about $2 million to the economy of state where it’s held. Until this program, Alabama and South Carolina got the benefit of that money on lakes between those states and Georgia. That’s approximately 200 boaters paying for lodging, food, and gas for at least four days.

Every time my husband and I put our boat in the water, we pay dock fees which go to the state, Corps of Engineers, our county where we fish. We buy gas for our boat, diesel for our truck, and sometimes snacks for our outing. That doesn’t count the money we spend for tackle at various types of stores which collect sales tax.

That $20 will be earned back in less than 5 years.

Sharon Harkins

July 30th, 2009
3:26 pm

Oops. That’s $20 million.