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	<description>Not Wrong. Not Left. Right. Common sense conservatism with Jim Wooten</description>
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		<title>By: clyde</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/thinking-right/2009/07/07/bills-should-be-required-reading/comment-page-2/#comment-12010</link>
		<dc:creator>clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read a lot of legislation on the state level over the years and have to admit that it&#039;s pretty dry reading.I have also found that my elected representatives often have only a fuzzy grasp of the contents.Sometimes,when questioned about points in a bill,they have no idea what you&#039;re talking about.One representative told me it made no difference whether they are read or not,party line was the way to vote.He said that party was why he was elected.I suggest that informed citizens keep their reps abreast of what&#039;s going on.Someone sure has to.On the state level it&#039;s a fairly easy task,but on the national level access is more restrictive.The people who have access to the national political ears are seldom you and I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read a lot of legislation on the state level over the years and have to admit that it&#8217;s pretty dry reading.I have also found that my elected representatives often have only a fuzzy grasp of the contents.Sometimes,when questioned about points in a bill,they have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about.One representative told me it made no difference whether they are read or not,party line was the way to vote.He said that party was why he was elected.I suggest that informed citizens keep their reps abreast of what&#8217;s going on.Someone sure has to.On the state level it&#8217;s a fairly easy task,but on the national level access is more restrictive.The people who have access to the national political ears are seldom you and I.</p>
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		<title>By: Copyleft</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/thinking-right/2009/07/07/bills-should-be-required-reading/comment-page-2/#comment-12009</link>
		<dc:creator>Copyleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it&#039;s true they won&#039;t read the bills themselves, that&#039;s what they have a staff for. And the staff will have more time to look for loopholes and broker backroom deals this way, so it&#039;s win-win.

Isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it&#8217;s true they won&#8217;t read the bills themselves, that&#8217;s what they have a staff for. And the staff will have more time to look for loopholes and broker backroom deals this way, so it&#8217;s win-win.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ahm a Ditz Brain in Red Monkey Heels</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/thinking-right/2009/07/07/bills-should-be-required-reading/comment-page-2/#comment-12008</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahm a Ditz Brain in Red Monkey Heels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wooten&#039;s premise is clearly phony.  There is no doubt bills should be posted well in advance.  Republicans don&#039;t take positions based on any actual bill.  They take positions based on sour grapes.  They ran a moron, and the moron helped them lose.  Every poll shows this.  And it doesn&#039;t matter what percent of Republican base and it&#039;s the base likes a moron for President (two of &#039;em were running last November), they are a small out of touch &quot;just say no&quot; minority.   Health care is in the toilet via many perameters and it has been for the entire medical career of most physicians.

When the so-called Patriot Act, a near 500 page bill was voted on, the Republican Bush DOJ who wrote the bill, held it until it was distributed between 3AM and 4AM to Congress.  That&#039;s not exactly prime time and this was the morning of the vote.

Neither Wooten or the idiot Republicans ever read the bills they vote on, but they constantly insert Republican pork that drains money that can be used for health care.  Chambliss&#039; soon to be vetoed horse crap with the $1.5 billion to be pissed away on the obselete F22 is a great example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wooten&#8217;s premise is clearly phony.  There is no doubt bills should be posted well in advance.  Republicans don&#8217;t take positions based on any actual bill.  They take positions based on sour grapes.  They ran a moron, and the moron helped them lose.  Every poll shows this.  And it doesn&#8217;t matter what percent of Republican base and it&#8217;s the base likes a moron for President (two of &#8216;em were running last November), they are a small out of touch &#8220;just say no&#8221; minority.   Health care is in the toilet via many perameters and it has been for the entire medical career of most physicians.</p>
<p>When the so-called Patriot Act, a near 500 page bill was voted on, the Republican Bush DOJ who wrote the bill, held it until it was distributed between 3AM and 4AM to Congress.  That&#8217;s not exactly prime time and this was the morning of the vote.</p>
<p>Neither Wooten or the idiot Republicans ever read the bills they vote on, but they constantly insert Republican pork that drains money that can be used for health care.  Chambliss&#8217; soon to be vetoed horse crap with the $1.5 billion to be pissed away on the obselete F22 is a great example.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/thinking-right/2009/07/07/bills-should-be-required-reading/comment-page-2/#comment-12007</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a progressive, I agree that all bills should be posted in advance for public scrutiny.

However, it does not matter how much time they have, legislators will not take the time to read the bills.  

When&#039;s the last time Jim Wooten read a hundred page bill?  When have any of the posters on this blog read any legislation?

At its core, this is just another stunt by Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a progressive, I agree that all bills should be posted in advance for public scrutiny.</p>
<p>However, it does not matter how much time they have, legislators will not take the time to read the bills.  </p>
<p>When&#8217;s the last time Jim Wooten read a hundred page bill?  When have any of the posters on this blog read any legislation?</p>
<p>At its core, this is just another stunt by Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/thinking-right/2009/07/07/bills-should-be-required-reading/comment-page-2/#comment-12006</link>
		<dc:creator>EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FAILIN PALIN SAID PHUCK THIS,I`M GOING HUNTIN SO I CAN BLAST ON SOME MOOSE,DEER,BEAR AND WOLVES,I`VE RUN THE STATE OF ALASKA INTO THE GROUND LIKE BUSH DID AMERICA,SO IT`S TIME FOR ME TO GO! HERE I COME FAUX NEWS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAILIN PALIN SAID PHUCK THIS,I`M GOING HUNTIN SO I CAN BLAST ON SOME MOOSE,DEER,BEAR AND WOLVES,I`VE RUN THE STATE OF ALASKA INTO THE GROUND LIKE BUSH DID AMERICA,SO IT`S TIME FOR ME TO GO! HERE I COME FAUX NEWS!</p>
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		<title>By: Whackjob Fishin' and Quittin' at Bristol Bay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/thinking-right/2009/07/07/bills-should-be-required-reading/comment-page-2/#comment-12005</link>
		<dc:creator>Whackjob Fishin' and Quittin' at Bristol Bay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove was deposed Tuesday by attorneys for the House Judiciary Committee, according to Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), the panel’s chairman. 


Rove’s deposition began at 10 a.m. and ended around 6:30 p.m, with several breaks, Conyers said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove was deposed Tuesday by attorneys for the House Judiciary Committee, according to Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), the panel’s chairman. </p>
<p>Rove’s deposition began at 10 a.m. and ended around 6:30 p.m, with several breaks, Conyers said.</p>
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		<title>By: Whackjob Fishin' and Quittin' at Bristol Bay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/thinking-right/2009/07/07/bills-should-be-required-reading/comment-page-2/#comment-12003</link>
		<dc:creator>Whackjob Fishin' and Quittin' at Bristol Bay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any truth to the rumor that David Letterman will run for Governor of Alaska or Senator against Lisa Murkowski?

The Republican party has become the James Joyce Part of Stream of Consciousness.

Say hello to the US Dept. of Law that will protect Ms. Borderline Personality perpetual victim.  You are watching a quintissential very sick Borderline Personality center stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any truth to the rumor that David Letterman will run for Governor of Alaska or Senator against Lisa Murkowski?</p>
<p>The Republican party has become the James Joyce Part of Stream of Consciousness.</p>
<p>Say hello to the US Dept. of Law that will protect Ms. Borderline Personality perpetual victim.  You are watching a quintissential very sick Borderline Personality center stage.</p>
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		<title>By: Whackjob Fishin' and Quittin' at Bristol Bay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/thinking-right/2009/07/07/bills-should-be-required-reading/comment-page-2/#comment-12002</link>
		<dc:creator>Whackjob Fishin' and Quittin' at Bristol Bay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;
How Jackson Family is Coping--by litigating visciously like the Kings seconds after the famous family member died of course.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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How Jackson Family is Coping&#8211;by litigating visciously like the Kings seconds after the famous family member died of course.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Whackjob Fishin' and Quittin' at Bristol Bay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/thinking-right/2009/07/07/bills-should-be-required-reading/comment-page-2/#comment-12001</link>
		<dc:creator>Whackjob Fishin' and Quittin' at Bristol Bay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scumbag Gonzales, unable to find employment for over a year after being banished from his job, got a job teaching--but not law--poly sci at the vernerable academic institution Texas Tech-- a big yeehaw to Alberto Gonzo and the Gonzomatics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scumbag Gonzales, unable to find employment for over a year after being banished from his job, got a job teaching&#8211;but not law&#8211;poly sci at the vernerable academic institution Texas Tech&#8211; a big yeehaw to Alberto Gonzo and the Gonzomatics.</p>
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		<title>By: Whackjob Fishin' and Quittin' at Bristol Bay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/thinking-right/2009/07/07/bills-should-be-required-reading/comment-page-2/#comment-12000</link>
		<dc:creator>Whackjob Fishin' and Quittin' at Bristol Bay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More lies from Palin:&lt;/strong&gt;

From FDL


&lt;em&gt;Ever since the stunning decision to quit her elected office, and abandon her constituents, Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska has been relentlessly repeating the line that she has been victorious in every ethics investigation against her. This ABC News report is typical:


But she said a major factor in the decision was the mounting legal bills she and the state have had to incur to fight ethics charges from her political adversaries. None of the accusations have been proved but, she said, the costs of fighting them have been enormous.

This is a demonstrably false statement and, yet, every major media source has allowed her to utter it without contravention and many have blindly repeated it.

Perhaps Sarah Palin has forgotten the most extensive and professional investigation performed of all, the one by longtime Alaska prosecutor Steven Branchflower, appointed by the Legislative Council of the Alaska State Legislature, which found that Sarah Palin Unlawfully Abused Her Power:


Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get Trooper Michael Wooten fired. She had the authority and power to require Mr. Palin to case contacting subordinates, but she failed to act.

Such impermissible and repeated contacts create conflicts of interests for subordinate employees who must choose to either please a superior or run the risk of facing that superior’s displeasure and the possible consequences of such displeasure. This was one of the very reasons the Ethics Act was promulgated by the Legislature. 

The Branchflower report was not the only problem Palin had before she quit her brief tenure as Governor. Oh no, there is also the matter of the travel expenses she attempted to bilk her state out of and that she was forced to repay:

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will repay her state for travel expenses for nine trips with her children as part of a settlement of a 2008 ethics claim, the attorney who investigated the matter said Tuesday.

Anchorage lawyer Timothy Petumenos said Palin&#039;s office is still adding up the costs, but &quot;I&#039;m told it&#039;s running about $7,000.&quot; Palin acknowledged no wrongdoing as part of the settlement, and her attorney said she has been &quot;fully exonerated&quot; by the investigation.

Complaints that Palin improperly took her children on state-paid trips emerged during the 2008 presidential campaign, when Palin was the Republican nominee for vice president. The state Personnel Board hired Petumenos to investigate that claim and others filed during Palin&#039;s time on the GOP ticket.

Now, in fairness, by entering into a plea bargain settlement agreement with the state, and agreeing to promptly repay the ill begotten travel allowances, Palin was able to have the official record read that there was no abiding ethics violation, but the simple fact is if there was no wrongdoing, she would not have had to enter an agreement and repay the funds.

So, and perhaps the mainstream media should pick up on this, when Sarah Palin blissfully states she has been completely exonerated on all ethics complaints, and that she is oh so poor and picked on, it is a lie.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>More lies from Palin:</strong></p>
<p>From FDL</p>
<p><em>Ever since the stunning decision to quit her elected office, and abandon her constituents, Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska has been relentlessly repeating the line that she has been victorious in every ethics investigation against her. This ABC News report is typical:</p>
<p>But she said a major factor in the decision was the mounting legal bills she and the state have had to incur to fight ethics charges from her political adversaries. None of the accusations have been proved but, she said, the costs of fighting them have been enormous.</p>
<p>This is a demonstrably false statement and, yet, every major media source has allowed her to utter it without contravention and many have blindly repeated it.</p>
<p>Perhaps Sarah Palin has forgotten the most extensive and professional investigation performed of all, the one by longtime Alaska prosecutor Steven Branchflower, appointed by the Legislative Council of the Alaska State Legislature, which found that Sarah Palin Unlawfully Abused Her Power:</p>
<p>Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get Trooper Michael Wooten fired. She had the authority and power to require Mr. Palin to case contacting subordinates, but she failed to act.</p>
<p>Such impermissible and repeated contacts create conflicts of interests for subordinate employees who must choose to either please a superior or run the risk of facing that superior’s displeasure and the possible consequences of such displeasure. This was one of the very reasons the Ethics Act was promulgated by the Legislature. </p>
<p>The Branchflower report was not the only problem Palin had before she quit her brief tenure as Governor. Oh no, there is also the matter of the travel expenses she attempted to bilk her state out of and that she was forced to repay:</p>
<p>Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will repay her state for travel expenses for nine trips with her children as part of a settlement of a 2008 ethics claim, the attorney who investigated the matter said Tuesday.</p>
<p>Anchorage lawyer Timothy Petumenos said Palin&#8217;s office is still adding up the costs, but &#8220;I&#8217;m told it&#8217;s running about $7,000.&#8221; Palin acknowledged no wrongdoing as part of the settlement, and her attorney said she has been &#8220;fully exonerated&#8221; by the investigation.</p>
<p>Complaints that Palin improperly took her children on state-paid trips emerged during the 2008 presidential campaign, when Palin was the Republican nominee for vice president. The state Personnel Board hired Petumenos to investigate that claim and others filed during Palin&#8217;s time on the GOP ticket.</p>
<p>Now, in fairness, by entering into a plea bargain settlement agreement with the state, and agreeing to promptly repay the ill begotten travel allowances, Palin was able to have the official record read that there was no abiding ethics violation, but the simple fact is if there was no wrongdoing, she would not have had to enter an agreement and repay the funds.</p>
<p>So, and perhaps the mainstream media should pick up on this, when Sarah Palin blissfully states she has been completely exonerated on all ethics complaints, and that she is oh so poor and picked on, it is a lie.</em></p>
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