Politicians learn from drug dealers
We’d all better hope that U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is right. “This bill coming out of the House is going nowhere in the Senate,” he said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” The bill he refers to is the Nancy Pelosi cram-down, with the support of eight wayward Republicans, of a cap-and-trade monstrosity guaranteed to raise the cost of living in America.
The eight House Republicans are: Reps. Mary Bono (Calif.), Michael Castle (Del.), Mark Kirk (Ill.), Leonard Lance (N.J.), Frank LoBiondo (N.J.), John McHugh (N.Y.), David Reichert (Wash.) and Christopher Smith (N.J.). Forty-four Democrats, including U.S. Reps. Jim Marshal of Macon and John Barrow of Savannah, voted against the bill, which passed, 219-212. This raises a question, but we’ll never know the answer: Had their votes been needed to pass the bill, would Marshal and Barrow have voted yes. Republicans in the Georgia delegation contend that the so-called “Blue Dog Democrats” vote conservative when Pelosi doesn’t need their votes.
Had Michael Jackson lived, it’s likely that Americans would have paid more attention to the extraordinary costs and to the high stakes in the 1,200-page legislation that passed Friday night. It’ll have negligible impact on so-called global warming, but the hidden taxes involved will stagger this economy. Heritage Foundation Senior Policy Analyst for Energy and the Environment, Ben Lieberman, testified before the Senate Republican Conference that under this bill “electricity costs go up 90 percent by 2035, gasoline by 58 percent, and natural gas by 55 percent by 2035. The cumulative higher energy costs for a family of four by then will be nearly $20,000.”
That’s not all, he said. Pass-through costs from manufacturing will raise that same family’s costs by $2,979 per year between 2012 and 2035, with a total cost in 2035 of more than $4,600. The costs will go up. That’s because more than 60 percent of the “pollution permits” will be offered for free in the early years. That’s a lesson politicians have learned from drug dealers: Hook ‘em and then fleece ‘em.
The House also has a provision in the bill that is guaranteed to start a global trade war. It will impose tariffs on goods from countries like India and China that don’t match U.S. efforts on global warming. This bill is a disaster for the economy and for the family budget.
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Peadawg
June 29th, 2009
8:31 am
he Obama White House left open the possibility Sunday that the president would break a campaign promise and raise taxes on people earning less than $250,000 to support his health care overhaul agenda.”
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/sharedgen/ap/US_President_And_White_House_Advisers/US_Obama_Health_Care.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab
LOL WOW!!! How many more promises is he doing to break?
bob
June 29th, 2009
8:34 am
Ron Reagan invented the cocaine trade, Evil said so.
MadMommy
June 29th, 2009
9:07 am
What really upsets me is that I am all for saving the planet anyway we can, but to raise taxes on something that we all use and need is just crazy. I could see it if we had other options, but we don’t. Just wait until all these extra taxes go through and everyone is trying to come up with the extra money to pay this tax all while companies are leaving at a break neck speed to develop their products in China or some other 3rd world country because they don’t have to pay our high taxes and deal with all the regulation handed down from their own government.
Breakdown, from what I have learned watching C-Span.
1. Each person’s taxes are going to be raised by $3,000-$7,000 per year.
2. Pay more tax when they purchase and consume gas and its products, while absorbing the higher cost due to companies being charged more in taxes.
I sure hope everyone is happy with the “Change” they are getting.
Speaking of “Change” how great is it that Oblama wants to now tax our health benefits. He wants to take away an employee benefit like employer sponsored health care, so that we are stuck taking his socialized medicine plan, which is going to cost each American more and won’t be half as good. Well, that is if you are a working American who follows the rules and pay your taxes.
I know that the system is broken on health care and that changes are needed, but not these kinds of changes. Has History not taught us anything? Ever wonder how a monster like Hitler was able to come into power? Take five and look it up and you might see a few warning signs that we are experiencing at the moment, caused by our own hand. I’m not saying that Obama is the next Hitler, but the aftermath of what he is doing should scare the living daylights out of you.
Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work
June 29th, 2009
9:35 am
The potential buyer of General Motors’ Hummer division will begin
formal talks with Chinese regulators to seek approval for its
acquisition,
Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work
June 29th, 2009
9:36 am
Microsoft has hired Morgan Stanley to sell Razorfish, its digital
agency, and French marketing company Publicis Groupe is thought to be a
possible bidder,
Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work
June 29th, 2009
9:37 am
The New York Times Company hopes to sell a newspaper in central
Massachusetts along with The Boston Globe and wants the buyer of the
papers to take on $59 million in pension liabilities.
Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work
June 29th, 2009
9:38 am
Novartis is in talks to buy parts of its Irish peer Elan, including its
multiple sclerosis products and its Alzheimer’s disease drug pipeline,
Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work
June 29th, 2009
9:39 am
With a payment of 3 billion to 5 billion Swiss francs ($3 billion to $5
billion), UBS hopes in the next two weeks to settle a lawsuit over the
tens of thousands of American clients suspected of tax evasion,
Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work
June 29th, 2009
9:41 am
A last-minute bidding frenzy erupted Friday for a steak lunch with the
billionaire investor Warren E. Buffett, as bidders offered as much as
$810,100 on the final day of a charity auction on eBay’s Web site.
Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work
June 29th, 2009
9:42 am
A federal judge ruled Friday that he would review the decision to grant
bail to R. Allen Stanford, the Texas billionaire who is accused of
masterminding a $7 billion fraud against 30,000 investors.
Big Bucks GOP doing the Lords work
June 29th, 2009
9:43 am
General Motors and the Obama administration have reached a deal for the
carmaker to assume responsibility for product liability claims filed
after it emerges from bankruptcy as a new company, even those claims
involving vehicles made by the old company.
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
9:46 am
CNN just reported that Michael Jackson’s was cryogenically frozen. So now, he’s the King of Popsicle.
Fox News reported that Jackson had recently signed with the Cooking Channel to do a recipe show: it was going to be called “Moonwok”.
Munch
June 29th, 2009
9:50 am
Here’s Wooten, allegedly “retired”, and he’s still taking blog comments. But his replacement Baby Kyle is still too frightened of the hammering he knows he’ll receive for his ill-thought scribblings to allow blog comments. Typical pi$$ypants wingnut.
Howard
June 29th, 2009
9:50 am
Jim…more evidence that a majority of voters in this country are morons for voting in this dcitatorship. People wanted a bunch of left-wing socialists runnning things…so voila, they have it.
Get Real
June 29th, 2009
9:53 am
Any statistics or so-called ‘facts’ from the Heritage Foundation will be taken with a grain of salt because as the website proudly advertises, its purpose it “to formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.”
Limited government and individual freedom doesn’t seem to matter with you folks when “blue laws” and Sunday liquor sales are the topic of discussion. And free enterprise is sure working here in Georgia, which has the highest number of bank closes of any state in the union. You’d think Wooten would take the time to discuss that at some point, showing how much free enterprise works and the correlation to bank closings, but he doesn’t have time for that.
As for cap-and-trade, conservatives would rather have companies continue to pollute and claim that it creates jobs, even with the manufacturing sector of this country in shambles. Wooten and others claim that high taxes and debt will place such a large burden on their ‘kids and grandkids’, when really it will be all the pollutants in the air that may be the biggest burden. Voluntarily letting these companies regulate themselves, as W did, was a big mistake because no reduction in greenhouse gases has yet to be found. So instead of Wooten attacking a policy, and quoting Lindsey Graham at the same time, I would ask what’s his plan to cut carbon emissions? Surely he has one.
Tricky D
June 29th, 2009
9:55 am
When will Wooten talk about all the bank closings in this state?
itamazesme
June 29th, 2009
9:56 am
Low Chris really Low and might I add quite CORNY!!
booger
June 29th, 2009
10:20 am
Jim,
These numbers just can’t be correct. Jay just told us Friday that cap-and-trade would only cost $175 per year per household. He also called the person who said it would cost a lot more a liar.
Please check your numbers.
booger
June 29th, 2009
10:26 am
Get Real,
Voluntary self regulation has produced no greenhouse reductions…….
Guess what. In Europe, those countries with cap-and-trade have seen no greenhouse reductions. They have also paid a high price for their lack of results.
Copyleft
June 29th, 2009
10:30 am
For once, Booger is right. Voluntary self-regulation of corporations never works.
We always have to step in and FORCE corporations to do what’s in America’s best interests, and it’s high time we quit pretending otherwise. Pass some damn regs already!
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
10:38 am
CNN just reported that Madoff claims Michael Jackson owed him money.
Farah Fawcett was the poster child for pinup girls.
I’ll be here all week.
Churchill's MOM
June 29th, 2009
10:45 am
I thought you were gone, You need to write about our next President Sara or VP Jenny, get with it old man.
SULLIVAN’S ISLAND, S.C., June 28 — This is the place where the betrayed wife took her stand.
As her husband’s affair with an Argentine woman exploded onto the global stage and publicly humiliated her family, Jenny Sanford, 46, and their four sons sought refuge here at their large beachfront cottage on this lush island enclave outside Charleston.
In marked contrast to elsewhere across the state, where residents remain riveted by the scandal of Gov. Mark Sanford’s disappearing act and affair, Sullivan’s Island is the cocoon protecting Jenny and the boys as they strive for normalcy.
But it has also been the first lady’s war room, where she has given her wayward husband a public thrashing. In the process, she seems to have drawn a new path for the aggrieved spouse of a philandering politician, an episode that has become something of a ritual in American politics.
Outside the Sanford home, on Atlantic Avenue near the towering lighthouse, the cameras had disappeared this weekend. Kids splashed in a pool next door and their parents laid under the hot Carolina sun, while other residents biked and jogged along narrow streets lined with palm trees.
The entrance to the Sanford family’s driveway was blocked by a security agent in a black sedan with tinted windows, but the Sanford boys could be seen riding their bicycles underneath a basketball hoop. Inside, Jenny Sanford packed to take them on a vacation and visitors streamed through. Her sister stopped by with her new baby, as did the family lawyer, in shorts and sandals and carrying a canvas beach bag.
It was just as Jenny Sanford would have it, her friends here said. She is not a victim, they said, but a survivor.
“Jenny is the hero in this story,” said Cyndi Mosteller, a longtime friend and a prominent Republican operative here. “She’s the hero to her children, and I think she’s the hero to this state. In the midst of this tragedy, she is standing strong to who she is and what she believes in. . . . I think Jenny has not had these types of ambitions, but I think every woman in South Carolina would vote for Jenny Sanford for governor right now.”
For Mark Sanford to move South Carolina past a sex scandal that gripped the nation and embarrassed his state last week, family friends here said, he may need help from his wife, who has long been his chief political strategist.
When her husband first ran for Congress in 1994, Jenny Sanford had a 15-month-old and a newborn to care for. She ran the campaign from the basement of the cottage, a role she continued to play in other campaigns.
*************Handel 2010************Palin Sanford 2012********************
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
10:47 am
Fox News just reported that pitchman Billy Mays was killed after he tried to sell the Pocket Fisherman to Japanese Whalers.
Chris Salzmann
June 29th, 2009
10:48 am
Trust Jim Wooten to quote the Heritage Foundation, a completely discredited Think Tank if there ever was one. From Wikipedia about the Heritage Foundation:
“Heritage Foundation has actively pushed for privatization, deregulation, cuts in social spending, and pre-emptive military strikes. It played a key role in the march to war against Iraq. In domestic policy, Heritage is a proponent of supply-side economics, which holds that reductions in the marginal rate of taxation can spur economic growth.”
Lets see, DEREGULATION has NOT worked and in fact helped get us in the financial mess we are in today, cuts in SOCIAL SPENDING do not work because private enterprise will prey on those who fall to the way side (health insurance is a prime example) and we all know what a GREAT IDEA the WAR IN IRAQ was. SUPPLY SIDE ECONOMICS, the mantra and Wunderkind of the Bush Administration has also been completely discredited as a solution to our economic mess.
Typical conservative hogwash: Repeating the same failed ideas of the past………………….
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
10:48 am
Michael Jackson saved Sanford’s career.
booger
June 29th, 2009
10:54 am
Copyleft,
Just been watching a segment on TV about the EPA bullying scientist who didn’t sign up to the man made global warming mantra. Some of their top scientist were giver a gag order not to share their findings. Alan Carlin was fired for violating this order and sending his research out to the world. On the other side of the pond, several Europeon scientist who originally agreed with US findings on Global warming, have backed off after seeing the flawed and sloppy scientific methodology used by EPA researchers.
According to Carlin, I was the EPAs desire to keep all this dissention quiet at least until after cap-and-trade was signed.
It is quite simple. As long as the EPA has this giant crisis called global warming they get more funds. Crisis goes away, funds go away.
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
10:54 am
People that knew her said that Farah Fawcett was stuck up.
AmVet
June 29th, 2009
10:55 am
To the point made at 9:53,
Neo-con “accounting” – as solid as soup and an oxymoron if ever there was one.
The party of NO. No ideas. No alternatives. No prospects…
Steve
June 29th, 2009
10:55 am
George Washington was against allowing the average person the right to vote. Reason – not smart enough. You are now reaping the liberal agenda that has sent California down the toilet. Now the US will follow. Tax and spend, back room deals with agricultural states, blantant say one thing and then do the opposite. Yes, you intelligent voters are now going to realize the results of your ignorance – much higher taxes – just like Atlanta. Don’t ask government to live within its means – just raise taxes. This is for everyone from the far left to the far right. Bailouts, stimulus, tax increases and what is next?
AmVet
June 29th, 2009
10:58 am
booger, I gather you complained as vociferously when for the previous eight years of a science-free White House, the same thing was happening?
NO???
Hmmm…..
1984
June 29th, 2009
10:59 am
Wait, wasn’t Obama Hussein a crack head? Oh, and Bill Clinton was a dope addict. I guess democrats really do love drug addicts.
1984
June 29th, 2009
11:01 am
AmVet, I don’t think science would ever be able to cure your stupidity.
AmVet
June 29th, 2009
11:05 am
Oh boy, the leg humper arises from his stupor.
oh well, duty calls and it’s time to go make money.
Enjoy your day folks.
And remember, don’t feed the troll…
booger
June 29th, 2009
11:10 am
AmVet,
No, I only complain when something totally inane is being pushed down everyone’s throat with no real basis other than flawed research.
Chris Salzmann
June 29th, 2009
11:12 am
1984 June 29th, 2009 10:59 am SAID: Wait, wasn’t Obama Hussein a crack head? Oh, and Bill Clinton was a dope addict. I guess democrats really do love drug addicts.
CHRIS: Wasn’t GW an alcoholic??? Rush addicted to Oxycontin??? What’s that saying about lighting matches while standing in a pool of gasoline? LMAO
retiredds
June 29th, 2009
11:12 am
Jim, too bad your party has wasted its credibility over the last ten years. Even if the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, is relatively close with its projections, I don’t believe them, just like I don’t trust anything the Republican “stick to the party line” machine puts out anymore. Jim, you and your party had ample time to make things right and you blew it, totally. So write on, your faithful 20% will follow you wherever you go. The majority of the country is leaving you behind to stew in the dustbin of what was once a grand party.
Elephant Whip
June 29th, 2009
11:16 am
1984:
Let’s not bring drugs into it…unless you’re going to toot a line for Bush, Jr. Brings to mind the Iran-Contra scandal. No body in that equation lacked cocaine residue…or terrorist-support allegations.
AmVet
June 29th, 2009
11:21 am
booger, thanks for the reply. But it’s OK, it was a rhetorical question. I already knew the answer.
And good luck with that “flawed research” argument.
OK, I really have to run and help pay for the occupation and bailouts.
Be excellent to each other…
Pubtards Continue to Lose
June 29th, 2009
11:25 am
Justice Kennedy’s 5-4 Opinion in Ricci v. DeStefano
A couple notes for the legally ignorant pubtards. The 2nd Circuit opinion was issued by the 3 judge panel per curiam. Contrary to popular pubtard belief, while Sotomayor was on the panel, you really get no extrapolation of her thought process in that the opinion which of course you didn’t read but neither did your nutbag attorneys in the Senate, was eight (8) sentences long which is the trouble when a judge and their law clerk won’t take ownership of an opinion that actually costs many thousands of dollars to litigate. The 2nd circuit refused to take the opinion en banc saying they thought it didn’t merit more than 8 sentences.
What the opinion has told the city, is that they can promote the white firefighters without fear of legal retribution in the form of discrimination law suits. Read the opinion (but of course you won’t even though I served it up to you).
Kennedy delivered the majority. Scalia and Alito filed separate concurrences (no surprise there) and Thomas and Scalia joined Alito’s concurrence. Ginsburg filed a dissent in which Stevens, Souter and Breyer joined.
Bottom line–Sotomayor was one of 3 at the Second Circuit who issued an 8 sentence opinion signed by none of them, and the Supremes decided it by the usual narrow party line split 5-4.
Value for stopping Sotomayor–the same chance that you, Wooten, and soon to be defrocked and probably indicted Sanford who was rotating 3 ectopic nookies at once will party tonight with Megan Fox.
1984
June 29th, 2009
11:28 am
Pubtards Continue to Lose, Sodemizer was overturned in Conn. Spin that all you want but she is a racist Mexican who hates whitey.
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
11:28 am
The greatest contribution from M Jackson: He made it acceptable for men to scratch themselves in public. In fact, now it’s a mating ritual, and can get you laid in a New York minute, my friend. My advice: Don’t scratch if you don’t want snatch, players.
Pubtards Continue to Lose
June 29th, 2009
11:29 am
What the politically childish Wooten doesn’t understand:
The Senate vote on this energy bill does not take place until fall. There will be a filibuster proof majority in the Senate with Senator Franken whatever the worthless Specter does. Trying to count Senate votes because of what Lindsay Graham or other pubtard idiots say at this point is worthless speculation.in
The bill was not much of a tax at all if you read and understand it (something Wooten never does beyond his tuning into Faux news’ superficial commentariat. It’s not going to impact Wooten at his income level or the majority of readers here.
Redneck Convert
June 29th, 2009
11:29 am
Well, I guess Wooten is like old Lace Manxpile. Old Lace got fired for being drunk and sleeping half the day down at the warehouse. But he kept showing up for work every day after the firing till the boss had to call the police to make him get out of there. I reckon the AJC ain’t too friendly with the police so Wooten will probly stick around awhile longer.
Anyhow, so much for this Obama and his promise not to raise taxes on us. He wants to tax our health insurance and now he wants to make a bunch of his buddies rich while he’s raising our power and gas bills. Anyhow, I don’t want to pay for a bunch of loafers to get free health care. And I sure don’t want to pay more for power and gas while China and India keep pumping so much stuff into the air you can’t see your hand in front of your face. When we catch up with China and India maybe it will be time to talk about air pollution. And this Obama raised taxes big-time on tobacco to boot. Last I looked at my paycheck I sure wasn’t making no $250,000 a year.
So I’m ready to impeach this Obama and put Republicans back in the White House and Congress. We need another big tax cut so we can get Trickle Down back to work. And we need to put the clamps on these tree-huggers and the bleeding hearts that want to get into our pocket to pay for all their causes. We need tax cuts and Law and Order and the Death Penalty again. And get rid of these equal rights laws. Leastwise the good Republican Supreme Court put the stops to some of those today.
Have a good day everybody.
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
11:31 am
CNN just reported that the hot Argentinian divorce had ended the gubernatorial affair, and that’s why Sanford disappeared for five days, trying to get her back. She apparently had finally gotten sick of all the crumbs in the bed from that sorry cracker.
Cracker Conservatism is dead. Long live whole wheat toast liberalism.
booger
June 29th, 2009
11:35 am
Pubtards,
Problem with filibuster proof senate is that you need a 100% dem. support. They don’t have that. Several dems. see this as an inane response to an unproven crisis.
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
11:35 am
These things come in threes, so I wonder what celebrity is getting out of here tomorrow…..
Munch
June 29th, 2009
11:37 am
booger fails to note that the renegade EPA “scientists” are bought-and-paid-for industry hacks installed by the Bushies to undercut the real scientific research. They were not pressured to sign on by anyone, but they were basically told to go sit in the corner and stroke their instrument while the grownups did the real work. Nice spin, anyway.
CheOrwell clings to fantasy in hopes that a narrowly drawn overturn of an unsigned circuit court opinion will derail the Sotomayor confirmation. Not gonna happen, but being wrong was never a barrier to 198fOrwell spouting bullshyte.
And finally, we have the retired Wooten, quoting scare numbers as to the cost of the cap-trade program. Just as he dutifully regurgitated the nonsense about 119 million people “losing” their health care under an Obama plan, here Wooten repeats without thinking the party line. To call Jim’s “journalism” merely animatronic is an insult to Babe the Pig.
And Baby Kyle Wingnut continues to be a coward in the online age.
booger
June 29th, 2009
11:44 am
Munch,
Sorry, but the memos stating that these scientist could not share their findings or discuss their findings with anyone outside the agency have gone public. Also, one of the UKs top scientist has asked that his name be stricken from the list of those supporting our EPA research. Scientists from other countries in Europe are considering doing the same.
1984
June 29th, 2009
11:45 am
Munch, considering you eat $hit for breakfast lunch and dinner, I’ll take your rhetoric with a grain of sea salt. Sodemizer is a racist Mexican who is a joke in her district.
Rmoen
June 29th, 2009
11:46 am
As a nation we need clean, cheap energy — not clean, expensive energy. I am a Democrat and think Congress is overplaying its hand. I fear cap and trade legislation will double our cost of energy over the years — even faster for gasoline. Plus, unintended consequences will abound. The bill is too complicated, with too many moving parts. Why? There are 880 lobbyists registered to lobby on climate change and their fingerprints are all over the bill.
Cap and trade will enrich a new class of financial speculator at a cost of billions of dollars to American consumers. It will also drive-out manufacturing of every description. Even non-polluting Microsoft says it will move jobs overseas because cap and trade “makes U.S. jobs more expensive.” Cap and trade is worse than a tax because only 15% of the proceeds from auctioned permits go into our national treasury.
And the kicker? We’ll never even know if cap and trade ever worked.
If instead the United States had a national mandate to replace coal generation plants with natural gas and nuclear energy, plus if we replaced our commuter cars with battery-powered electric cars, we would drastically reduce our dependence on foreign oil and reduce CO2 emissions faster and beyond the proposed cap and trade targets.
– Robert Moen, http://www.energyplanUSA.com
1984
June 29th, 2009
11:47 am
Do any of you racist liberals realize that your own party is in disarray? Your own party is fighting within itself. HA!
DebbieDoRight
June 29th, 2009
11:48 am
Jim — you’re still alive?!?! WOW!!! I guess hate doesn’t degrade as fast…………..
Munch
June 29th, 2009
11:53 am
Yeah Orwell, too bad the Dems can’t be as organized as the GOP. Too bad the Dem approval ratings can’t be as high as your team. Too bad Obama’s popularity has plunged into the upper 60% realm.
Too bad you still can’t separate your adolescent emotionalism from facts and rational thought. Dipshyte.
GayGrayGeek
June 29th, 2009
12:07 pm
Where can one find Kyle, Wingnutter-With-Training-Wheels, on the AJC site? There’s certainly no link from the AJC Blogs page…
1984
June 29th, 2009
12:13 pm
Munch, just wait buddy. The dems are going to be in BIG BIG trouble in the coming months. Once inflation hits, and it will hit, and unemployment goes up to 12-13%, the democrats will cease to exist.
1984
June 29th, 2009
12:14 pm
Where can one find a mindless sissy boy like GayGrayGeek? In the bathroom stalls taking it up the poop shoot…..
Copyleft
June 29th, 2009
12:17 pm
I enjoy watching 1984/Che/Commie crash and burn every day. It’s part of the regular entertainment offered by Wooten’s Clueless Wingnuts Show.
Copyleft
June 29th, 2009
12:19 pm
Watch and laugh, folks… soon he’ll be offering gay-sex jokes and then switch to namejacking as his “arguments” are shot down with basic reason over, and over, and over….
As regular as the tides: the idiocy of Che/Commie/1984. Loving it!
Ray Pugh
June 29th, 2009
12:21 pm
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Munch
June 29th, 2009
12:23 pm
You can find Baby Kyle on the Opinion page. Today, he worries that all the scandals and greed perpetrated by the business class will somehow lead the youth of today to conclude that the business class is somehow not worthy of our unfettered idol worship.
Then again, it could be worse…over at the NY Times, their very own wingnut-with-training-wheels Ross Douchehat is again wringing his hands over matters concerning his unresolved sexuality, still reeling as he is from that traumatic night with Chunky Reese. (use your Google machine if you are unfamiliar with this delightful picaresque).
1984
June 29th, 2009
12:25 pm
Copyleft, who is Che/Commie? I love your paranoia by the way.
1984
June 29th, 2009
12:27 pm
Copyleft, I have never crashed and burned because all of you liberal trolls can’t debate. Whenever I post something about a democrat, you trolls resort to trashing me. Instead of wanting to have a civil debate you gals only point out how evil Bush is or how Palin should be shot.
Mary D
June 29th, 2009
12:29 pm
I am angry and appalled that the Princicpal and Teacher at Atherton Elemetary were arrested. Yes, I do think they should not have changed the scores on the CRCT test. The system sometimes makes you want to change the scores, when you know that without a passing score your school will not be on the list to get what is needed. Or your school will be a so-called, school where children are not being educated.
I am not saying that there should not be some kind of disciplinary action, being arrested is going just a little too far.
Munch
June 29th, 2009
12:33 pm
By the way, Che, the word is “chute” not “shoot”. You should at least know the correct term for where you have stuck your head.
1984
June 29th, 2009
12:37 pm
Munch, who is Che? I guess the reason I didn’t post the correct term is because I knew you and Gay Grey Geek would point it out. Ya know, seeing as how you two are always sticking random objects in that area and all.
Pubtards Continue to Lose
June 29th, 2009
12:38 pm
It has emerged that McClatchy newspapers, everything the AJC has never been and will certainly never be, has uncovered two other nookie sources that Sanford may well have used state funds to visit, wine, and dine. Sanford is following a familiar criminal pattern. When caught with his hand in the nookie jar having stolen many thousands from the state of S.C., Sanford is running to whatever real or not Christ is. The Pubtard crooks always hide in the skirts of “Christ” and just get nauseatingly “christier.”
From a real newspaper outfit–McClatchy–How Mark Sanford’s 3 Simultaneous Affairs Blew Up and why the lying theif faces federal prison just like Charles Walker
Cass Sunstein, one of the most brilliant constitutional lawyers in the country, who could be on the faculty of any law school vs. Saxby Chambliss, a country bumpkin, who knows as much about constitutional law as a 3rd grader. Saxbut is just pissed because Obama has told him he’s going to veto the Lockheed F22 so we can use that 1.5 billion for health care.
@ Michael Smith–your lack of reading and understanding of economics dynamics is how and why you lose every election and vote in Congress.
7 months isn’t enough time to cleanup the mess that took years for mostly Pubtards in control, but some dems to be sure to cause the near depression we have. You need to start from scratch by reading Krugman’s latest book and the best seller House of Cards or stay ignorant. Obama couldn’t have been more prepared to hit the ground running in cleaning up the clusterfook your party made, and he’s not going far enough. The strategy of saying he’s no good without offering your own plans for economic recoverygetting you and your party nowhere and we will continue to crush you in every election with the exception of a few ignorant Southern states until the old white redneck bigots are dead and Hispanics and African Americans as well as educated whites take their places.
Munch
June 29th, 2009
12:40 pm
Isn’t it adorable when multi-named posters protest the integrity of their brand? It’s like when I catch my 10-year old watching TV during the day and he pretends that he was just walking through the room and the tv just happened to be on his favorite program but he DID NOT DID NOT actually ever once look as SpongeBob. That’s what Che/1984/Andy/etc. reminds me of, but instead of being a cute kid, he’s a balding, pathetic loser living in his mom’s basement, fondling his own man boobs and pretending they are attached to a woman. Ick.
Munch
June 29th, 2009
12:42 pm
Cue Che to protest that he is a graduate of Duke, earns a 6-figure salary, and has a wife that’s prettier than Angelina in the Lara Croft movie. Wait for it….3……2……..1
Pete
June 29th, 2009
12:47 pm
Wow, after reading Jay’s column and comments and now Jim’s, I am *amazed* that people think Wikipedia is an authoritative source for anything! It is a great compilation of what people care to write but probably about as good as the comments on this and other blogs. Okay, some of the articles are thoroughly researched and cited but most have about as much veracity as the rest of the Internet. In other words, take it with a very large grain of salt.
1984
June 29th, 2009
12:54 pm
Munch, who is Che?
Pubtards Continue to Lose
June 29th, 2009
1:02 pm
The opinion in Ricci by Justice Kennedy’s law clerk fresh out of law school with no practice experience, made no remarks whatsoever about the 8 sentence panel opinion in the 2nd circuit that were critical, and it was a party vote 5-4 Pubtard judges to dems. In October, that 5-4 majority will switch dramatically, and when Obama appoints Stevens and Ginburg’s successor should they resign in his first or second term, there will be a party majority of 7-2 Dems to Pubtards, as of course it should be. This does not mean that every opinion is going to be along party lines, however there have been extremely few 5-4’s for the defendant, and Alito and Roberts have and will never vote for a favorable criminal defense opinion.
The goofy federalist society’s conference on the opinion did everything but analyze the actual opinion, because they were too pubtard to read it of course.
Justice Ginsberg’s dissent pointed out that the 2nd circuit opinion was totally consistent with 2nd circuit precedent.
It should be noted that 4 justices would have affirmed the panel which included future Justice Sotomayor and the “opinion” the pubtards attack was only 8 sentences but of course they don’t know that because they don’t even know where to go to read a circuit opinion or how disappointing it is to lawyers and litigants when they spend years litigating and tens of thousands of dollars and get 8 sentences signed by no judge. Recently per curiam’s did gain the status of precedent, but before that they could not even be cited as precedent. Judge Richard Arnold tried to change this with Anastasoff but it became moot when IRS backed down and rescinded its tax claim.
The court called the opinion a “difficult” Title VII decision. Georgia has a great deal of experience with reverse discrimination, if you consider that the majority of its students cannot pass standardized tests or even read, and they are promoted and graduated anyway , as adults who cannot read nor write. The result is evident,e not only at the AJC, but demonstrated by its commenters as well.
The whip count for a public healthcare option is leaning for it, with the chagrinned and greedy insurance companies realizing no matter how many millions they spend on phony portrayals, they are going to lose and get some competition.
The majority of phyicicans are for a public option, despite the pubtard portrayal that the AMA membership is more than 16% of the MD population in this country. Many many MDs are blogging that they totally disagree with the AMA’s stance, both members and the 84% who aren’t members.ei
AMA does much good that is educational. Their policy is 100 years out of date, and it won’t prevail.
booger
June 29th, 2009
1:03 pm
Mary D,
Heard Jessie J. may get involved. He even has a slogan……..If you can’t compete, cheat.
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
1:11 pm
Sounds like Che makes the scratch AND gets the snatch.
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
1:21 pm
Fred Travelena.
Pubtards Continue to Lose
June 29th, 2009
1:32 pm
Palenty is poised to certify Senator Franken.
Mad Mommy is blowing smoke on the Energy Bill which she has not read, obviously
Mad Mommy always comments out of ignorance from Faux News instead of actual reading and analysis. The “mad” must mean wacko.
Pubtards Continue to Lose
June 29th, 2009
1:34 pm
PAWlenty:
KING: Will you certify the election based on your state’s supreme court ruling, is that for you?
PAWLENTY: I’m going to follow the direction of the court, John. We expect that ruling any day now. I also expect them to give guidance and direction as to the certificate of election. I’m prepared to sign it as soon as they give the green light.
KING: And so if Norm Coleman loses at the state supreme court and says he’s going to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, will you give him that time or will you say, sorry, Senator Coleman, our state supreme court, our highest court in this state, has spoken, and I will follow their lead?
PAWLENTY: Well, a federal court could stay or put a limit on or stop the effect of the state court ruling. If they chose, if they do that, I would certainly follow their direction. But if that doesn’t happen promptly or drags out for any period of time, then we need to move ahead with signing this, particularly if I’m ordered to do that by the state court. KING: And if you’re ordered to do it and they say Al Franken has narrowly won the election, you’re prepared to sign it, if the court says so.
PAWLENTY: I’m not going to defy an order of the Minnesota Supreme Court. That would be a dereliction of my duty. But a federal court could weigh in and say, don’t do that and order a different result.
Jefferson
June 29th, 2009
1:37 pm
Sooner or later the current politicians will have to raise taxes on the well heeled.
Might as well get it over with.
over $250k 40%
over $500k 50%
over $1 mil 60%
Now thats some money to spend with out the deficite crybabies.
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
1:40 pm
Ed. David. Farrah. Mike. Fred.
One more.
Northern Songs Ltd
June 29th, 2009
1:41 pm
See, this why this blog is so much more fun the Bookman’s. JW writes his pointless drivel, then slinks off to take a 48 hour nap, leaving the place for the classy musings of posters like Munch and 1984.
Chris Broe – don’t forget Billy Mays and Gale Storm. That makes 6 in the last week or so.
Mara
June 29th, 2009
1:41 pm
“electricity costs go up 90 percent by 2035, gasoline by 58 percent, and natural gas by 55 percent by 2035. The cumulative higher energy costs for a family of four by then will be nearly $20,000.”
Frankly, I don’t know where Ben Lieberman got his numbers, but I think he’s been hangin’ with those drug dealers for too long. Per the reasonably sane conservative Jim Manzi…according to the EPA the Waxman-Markey bill “is projected to impose annual costs of about $1,100 per household (a little less than 1% of total consumption) by 2050.” (That’s from the EPA estimate.) That $1,100 looks like a lot, but of course the country is projected be almost three times richer in 2050 than it is now. Average household consumption in 2050 will be $164,348.”
so when you take the cost of the legislation, it really isn’t the falling sky that desperate Republicans want to portray it as. In real dollars it’s fairly insignificant…but then so are the expected results. Basically Waxman-Markey is rich in moral benefit but rather trivial in real results, which match perfectly with the rather insignificant cost (insignificant meaning as a percentage of GDP).
booger
June 29th, 2009
1:43 pm
Jefferson,
This would,nt begin to pay the bills Obama is amassing.
booger
June 29th, 2009
1:52 pm
Pubtard,
I’d say you are a little long on reading and short on analysis.
Road Scholar
June 29th, 2009
1:55 pm
Could the Repub house members actually voted for what their constituents wanted?
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
2:00 pm
2008 witnessed the death of Cracker Conservatism as personified by Gov. Sanford, who was such a juggernaut of GOP revivalism with that wet blanket he threw on the Stimulus Package.
booger
June 29th, 2009
2:10 pm
Mary,
You do realize that the numbers you quote are not counting the pass through cost from all products and services who use power. Depending on what you choose to count, you can come up with almost any number. And do you really think anyone knows what the cost for anything will be in 2050. Mass. predicted their Med. cost and two years later it was over 700% higher than predicted. I can’t think of a thing the govt. has not underestimated.
Chris Broe
June 29th, 2009
2:11 pm
Farrah Fawcett was the poster child of pin-up girls.
Northern Sympathizer
June 29th, 2009
2:16 pm
Jim’s use of the term “so-called” for Global Warming is all you need to read. If you accept the premise that the climate change threat is real, then you are more abt to back measures to fight it. Jim and his selectively stupid supporters need to wake up and smell the trees burning.
Robert Byrd (D) KKK member since 1952
June 29th, 2009
2:19 pm
Chris Broe, ah thinks da white man is hea ta stay! Da negra menz needz to be hanged! Use hates da white menz and AHHHHHH hates da negra menz.
booger
June 29th, 2009
2:23 pm
Norhtern,
The man made climate change theory, [and it is a theory] is unraveling by the day. By the time the Senate votes, the EPA’s story will be considerably weakened.
Will
June 29th, 2009
2:24 pm
Other than being a democrat, I have never understand the almost maniacal obsession with republicans to defeat Congressman Marshall.
He appears to be one of the few truly nonpartisan members of Congress who often sides with republicans and was a fairly consistent vote for President Bush’s agenda.
It is my understanding that, among the many disappointments related to the 2006 congressional elections, President Bush was most baffled by Congressman Marshall’s re-election. President Bush, Vice-President Cheney and many other prominent republicans spent an unusal amount of time in Georgia working to get rid of Congressman Marshall. He seemingly represents a district ripe for picking for the republicans and his opponent was a well liked, well financed former Georgia Congressman.
What’s that you say, the democrats do the same thing, going after moderate republicans who often side with democrats and wiping them out in the Northeast? Oh please……that’s your standard to emulate, democrats? I thought republicans were morally superior to those rascals!
Jefferson
June 29th, 2009
2:27 pm
Booger, naw that would be plenty. Get it where the getting is good.
I don’t promote it, but it’s the only way to pay the bills.
Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
June 29th, 2009
2:29 pm
GET OFF SAXBY’S BACK, he is just doing what the lobbyist pay him to do. When he was elected everyone was aware that de worked for the lobbyist not Georgia but you reelected him.
Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
June 29th, 2009
2:33 pm
Will June 29th, 2009 2:24 pm
Marshall’s opponent was a retired General who was 1 of Saxby’s best friends. His son was on Saxby’s staff until he quit to become a lobbyist. Like Saxby & Johnny Marshall voted for TARP.
jokerman
June 29th, 2009
2:47 pm
Jim Marshall? Just a guess but I would suggest Marshall votes with the republicans 80% of the time! Lindsay Graham? Who cares what this little hypocrite has to say? After listening to him try to defend his fellow South Carolinian (Sanford) after he (Graham) voted to impeach Clinton for the very same offense shows just what a republican tool he is!
Northern Sympathizer
June 29th, 2009
2:52 pm
Booger-appropriate name, the Senate shouln’t be in the business of validating or invalidating a scientific theory. I’ll give you another “theory”-the theory of gravity. You can’t prove that one either but it is real. Unless you think it is simply God holding us closer.
AmVet
June 29th, 2009
3:31 pm
booger, please provide a comprehensive, fact filled explanation to support that unusual claim at 2:23.
I believe Waxman-Markey is fatally flawed. Cap and trade is NOT the way to go. A revenue neutral carbon tax is far superior at reducing GHGs. And typical of the poosies in Congress it has no teeth. It’s not much different than BushCo allowing Wall Street to “police itself”. And we’ve all seen what that stupidity, greed and blind obeisance got us.
But as to the fundamental problem of man-induced climate change, after much consideration I am beginning to see that the deniers and foot draggers are actually serving a very valuable purpose.
From what I read there are essentially two camps – those that deny global warming is even happening and those new-found science lovers who admit it is but are utterly incapable of explaining anything whatsoever about it including its source. JUST that it is not anthropogenic.
The value therein is that it even more clearly highlights those that seek scientific knowledge and understanding such as NASA, NOAA, American Meteorological Society, World Meteorological Association, National Academy of Sciences, American Institute of Physics, American Geophysical Union, Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Scripps Institution of Oceanography, Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society, US Geological Survey, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, International Council on Science, American Astronomical Society, Scott Polar Research Institute, American Institute of Physics, World Wildlife Fund, Royal Academy of Science, National Geographic and innumerable other prestigious institutions that ALL agree.
Versus those that adhere to the Creation Museum for example. Or those who simply loathe all things liberal and academic and that is their sole motivation for being obstinate and willfully ignorant.
READ THE NEXT SENTENCE CAREFULLY.
In fact since 2007 NO scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion. A few organizations hold non-committal positions.
This fact is irrefutable. Because the deniers cannot even remotely begin to scientifically trump the accepted theory, and because demonizing those they disagree with is interesting but useless, they are not going to have any real say in the decisions going forward.
Bet on it…
booger
June 29th, 2009
4:08 pm
AmVet,
…Fact filled, comprehensive…….What do you want backed up. The fact that man made global warming is a theory? It is a theory because its not a scientific law. If you are referring to the cracks in the EPA case, this has been on all TV news sources today. The EPA has been forbidding any disenters to share their research, or to discuss global warming with anyone outside their agency. The only fact I can attest to is I watched it on the news.
As for your carefully read sentence, I beg to differ. The american petroleum institute is one. And before you point out their source of funding, You need to check the source of funding for all the sources quoted.
I do not deny the earth has been warming since the late 1880s which was the end of a period of cooling. I just do not believe the methodology of the science being used will stand the test of time.
….this fact is irrefutable…..A fact is always irrefutable, that’s what makes it a fact.
Robert Byrd (D) KKK member since 1952
June 29th, 2009
4:52 pm
SCAmVet doesn’t know fact from fiction. Global warming is a theory JUST like evolution is. Absolutely nothing to back it up. Al Gore invented it just like he invented the internet.
ncgreybr
June 29th, 2009
5:09 pm
“electricity costs go up 90 percent by 2035, gasoline by 58 percent, and natural gas by 55 percent by 2035. The cumulative higher energy costs for a family of four by then will be nearly $20,000.”
If we have another Texas Republican President I will guarantee gas will go up by 150%….how’s that for a prediction….well, actually that’s a no-brainer!
AmVet
June 29th, 2009
5:22 pm
Notwithstanding that you completely, utterly and totally avoided my request to document your bizarre claim that “The man made climate change theory, [and it is a theory] is unraveling by the day.”, I am almost mortified for you.
Unraveling???
By the day???
You didn’t even try to substantiate it.
The american petroleum institute?
booger, you cannot be serious! Tell me you didn’t just write that!
My god, they are NEITHER scientific nor remotely of national or international standing. That you would admit that you believe them over ALL of those amazingly renowned, long standing institutions of unparalleled excellence, discovery and accomplishment is to me… well… frankly, asinine.
Let me repeat “In fact since 2007 NO scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion.”
But I am not here to convince or persuade those of you that will not see. I will not waste my time.
But as surely as the sun will come in the west tomorrow morning, you deniers are 100% DOA until you can produce a SUPERIOR explanation. And you have not, cannot nor willl ever. Even when there will be a cold day in hell…