South (mostly) remains in bondage

The U.S. Supreme Court should, I suppose, be commended for exercising judicial restraint in declining to declare a key provision of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 unconstitutional — while signaling the belief that it is.

At issue is Section 5, a discriminatory provision  of the act that holds Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, most of Virginia and a number of counties and towns in seven other states, in bondage to the Civil Right Division of the the U.S. Department of Justice.  In theory, jurisdictions that have no record of discrimination are allowed to be exempted.  That “out,” however, is a sham.  In more than a quarter century, 27 years, only 17 of 12,000 jurisdictions have been allowed out.

The reality is that Section 5 gives every incentive to those who wish to keep jurisdictions under the thumb of the Justice Department’s civil rights division to find “evidence” of intentional discrimination by state and local officials. 

The provision was extended three years ago by Congress for 25 years and signed into law by President George W. Bush.  Congress extended it not because there’s any current justification, but because the law for the most part affected somebody else.  No Congress is willing to apply the law to all states.

As Gov. Sonny Perdue, noted after the decision, the court’s ruling signaled serious constitutional concerns about the act’s provision.   “Unfortunately,” he said, “the court chose to rule only on the narrow, statutory issue presented…I look forward to the day when this provision is either ruled unconstitutional, or, if ruled constitutional, then applied to all 50 states rather than singling out a few.” Perdue filed a brief on behalf of the Texas utility that had brought the challenge.

Congress should get the message. Either it applies the law only to those jurisdictions where there’s evidence of discrimination — or be assured that the next challenge won’t be resolved “on the narrow, statutory issue presented.”

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san francisco perspective

June 23rd, 2009
1:19 pm

Wondering,

a $5 fee to vote is the functional equivalent of a poll tax; it works by definition to thwart democratic participation.

also, i arrived once at a polling station with a drivers license that had recently expired (i failed to notice because i do not drive) and contained a different address from the one i was registered at (i had moved 6 months prior). fortunately, i was able to vote. however, stringent voter ID laws would have prevented me from doing so.

the fact is that the U.S. has more barriers to voting than any other industrialized nation. let’s have election-day voter registration options, make every national election a federal holiday, and offer free public transportation on election days. now that would be serious Voting Rights……

Bill

June 23rd, 2009
1:23 pm

Everyone should know by now that racial discrimination stops on the southern side of the Mason-Dixon Line. It does not extend into the northern states. These states are utopias of racial harmony and justice. It would be a fruitless effort to try and find any examples of discrimination the the northeastern area of the United States. For that reason the Voting Rights Act does not need to be enforced in the North. I would suggest that all those that feel they are the victims of discrimination move to the North. There they will live an idyllic existence free from the rampant discrimination in the South.

chad

June 23rd, 2009
1:28 pm

Voting in a federal election is not a right, you just think it is. Don’t believe me? Try to find in the constitution or bill or rights. And eliminating the electoral college? That would make us a democracy which despite many groups best efforts to tell us otherwise, we aren’t. We are democratic republic. An there is good reason for this. For one, no democracy has every lasted for monre than 200 years.

Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

san francisco perspective

June 23rd, 2009
1:45 pm

Chad,

the constitutional principle of equality is well embedded in the text (14th amend.) and specifically granting the federal govt. power to prevent discrimination against racial minorities in the area of voting (15th amend.). once the voted is granted to anyone, a panoply of constitutional provisions are activated.

your argument is dodging these facts…….

Wondering

June 23rd, 2009
1:49 pm

San Francisco, I show a drivers license when I go to the polls. I paid $15 for my drivers license. Is that a poll tax? No. And again, I state that Voter ID laws are only necessary due to illegal immigration. No one proposed this type of law since the Jim Crow laws were cast out until the illegal population became so huge that it presents a real problem.

How would you propose to stop illegal aliens from voting?

Wondering

June 23rd, 2009
1:52 pm

San Francisco, forgot to add, you were not unable or incapable of obtaining an ID, your only problem was you forgot to renew it. That is not an impact of the voting ID law preventing you from voting, that is an impact of poor memory.

We have driving laws. You are not supposed to drive with an expired license, or drive without a license. Do you think it is discriminatory as well to require a current license?

findog

June 23rd, 2009
2:20 pm

Jimbo,
You miss the point. Had they ruled like our goober Governor wanted we would be supporting ACTIVIST judges! They ruled on the merits of the case presented. Sonny and Karen should petition the Justice Department to opt out and then take it to the Supremes to rule before we lose our conservative majority on the court…

jconservative

June 23rd, 2009
2:30 pm

Jim, after Lincoln freed the slaves it took them about 100 years to get free of the bondage of slavery & Jim Crow. It will take a little time to get by this. And, you are correct, the Court took the “non-activist” position on declaring an act of Congress unconstitutional. Sotomayor took the same route on the New Haven firemen case – took the “non-activist” route. True Constitutional Conservatives are not complaining.

Pubs=Psychotalk

June 23rd, 2009
2:34 pm

Hapless Handel–shut down one again. Very soon she will be out of the headlines as she gets stomped in the pubtard primary and Oxedine gets crushed by Roy Barnes.

The ignorant south must be closely watched by Section 5 because they are at the forefront of voter supression attempts (although unsucessful all the time). Wooten selectively won’t discuss that Handel’s stupid now illegal attempt to cut 5000 citizens off the voting roles while being unable to find more than one single illegal immigrant voting and refusing after nearly a year to ID others when she has the AG at her disposal for legal work and enforcement.

Hatsoff to goofball Mark Sanford who showed why he is too irresponsible to be President, going missing for 5 days and neglecting to inform his wife. Boy them pubtard’s often have screwed up marriages don’t they?

It looks like ole Promisekeeper John Ensign will be facing an ethics probe and possible DOJ investigation on paying for pursuing ectopic sex.

75% of this country wants a public health care option. All of the people with years of providing health care know its a broken system where thousands die in the US because they can’t get access to care, and the insurance companies rip off doctors and patients. 16.666666% of US MDs are AMA members. The AMA should be given credit for their efforts in MD and pt. education which are substantive, but their political stance as an interest group is highly adverse to physicians and their patients.

findog

June 23rd, 2009
2:35 pm

Oh, Bill @1:23
You’re either pulling our leg or too young to remember the 1960’s race riots of Detroit or the 1970’s bussing riots in Boston.
Moving north only frees one of needing air-conditioning before Memorial Day…

Wondering

June 23rd, 2009
2:49 pm

Findog, I believe Bill was being very sarcastic in his comment. I found it hilarious, as I believe he intended it to be.

Just Nasty & Mean

June 23rd, 2009
2:50 pm

It never ceases to amaze me as to how discombobulated some minds become when we listen to political spin and rhetoric. Today’s African-American should be thoroughly and publicly shamed by their inability to remember who were the sponsors of fire hoses, police dogs and vicious brutality against our black citizens.

Was it not Democrat and Birmingham police chief, “Bull” Connor, who employed such tactics against blacks as they marched for their rights?

Was it not Governors, Orville Faubus of Arkansas, George Wallace Of Alabama, and Ross Barnett of Mississippi, all Democrats, who fought to the bitter end to prevent our black citizens from attending the state universities, voting, marching, etc.? Was it not Republican President, Dwight Eisenhower, who originally stood up to Faubus and integrated the schools in Arkansas?

Was it not extremist right wing Democrats, associated with the KKK, who bombed a black church in Birmingham on a Sunday morning and killed a number of black children as they attended bible study?

Was it not South Carolina’s Strom Thurmond, at that time a segregationist Democrat, who fathered a child by his black housekeeper, but willingly relegated his own daughter to the deprived status of those who were subjected to segregation and discrimination? When Thurmond later turned Republican, he had moderated his position and admitted that he had been wrong about segregation and equal rights for black people.

Was it not Democrat President, Lyndon Johnson, and his Attorney General, Bobby Kennedy, two icons of the civil rights struggles of the 1960s, who not only permitted, but also encouraged the wire tapping of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr’s. phone calls. Was it not Johnson who got great pleasure listening to FBI Director, J. Edgar Hoover, describe King’s activities, especially his secret sexual trysts?

Was it not the Republican members of congress who overwhelmingly supported Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson’s civil rights legislative initiatives, while the Democrats fought bitterly against them? Without strong Republican support, Johnson’s civil rights bills would have been DOA.

And even today, lest we forget the last KKK Grand Pooh-Bah leader in Congress is the recently re-elected, 7-term Senator Robert C. Byrd…. a Democrat.

I could go on and on turning through the pages of memory, but the point is made.

African-Americans should all stand with heads bowed in shame for their blatant, intentional racism with malice. They all know that they no longer have any reason to fear police dogs, fire hoses and other cruelties from either Democrats or Republicans. They simply could not let an opportunity to affect discombobulated minds go without some race baiting rhetoric.

At one time, they truly had reasons to be outraged at the treatment of blacks.

However, the truth proves their tormentors were Democrats, not Republicans!

conservative democrat

June 23rd, 2009
3:09 pm

copyleft wrote, “…Yes, and it was settled by the Civil War. The “states’ rights” bigots LOST. Get over it.” Well, not exactly. Not if you listened to the repubs debate last year. They all agreed that the Rowe v Wade issue should be decided on a state by state basis.

conservative democrat

June 23rd, 2009
3:14 pm

Just Nasty and Mean, you left out axe handle wielding Lester Maddox of Georgia. Representative John Lewis (D-Ga) wants to preserve the “Pick Wick” property for a national civil rights landmark.

Californication

June 23rd, 2009
3:18 pm

The easiest way to fix this is a state of federal ID card that proves citizenship for the US. Any idiot that thinks that is discrimination is just falling for a great lie from the left. It is funny how you need an ID to get liquor, buy a gun, or drive a car is that discrimination? It is only discrimination if the illegal aliens can’t vote dimacrat, or ACORN can’t register Mickey Mouse in all 50 states. Every country in the world has a national ID and borders that they protect, what is wrong in America?

Pubs=Psychotalk

June 23rd, 2009
3:19 pm

Great news for the pubby pubs. A cloture vote on the Koh nomination could happen as early as tomorrow in the Senate. Saxby’s, Johnny’s impact–zero over zilch where it belongs.

After languishing in appointment purgatory for over three months, former Yale Law Dean Harold Koh may finally be confirmed as legal adviser to the State Department. Sen. Harry Reid filed a petition for cloture on Koh’s nomination yesterday evening, which would force a vote on the nominee’s fate tomorrow. According to Dave Weigel, Reid’s office is optimistic that they have the 60 votes necessary to end debate (and the 50 to actually get Koh confirmed).

And Dawn Johnsen has moved her family and a middle school aged child from Bloomington, Indiana to Washington DC. Johnsen would not have moved for fun. She is a tenured Constitutional law prof and at the top of the game nationally and spent several years blogging about the stupidity of Bush DOJ. So far, Obama DOJ has been run out of the White House by Williams and Connelly’s Clinton pal at Yale Greg Craig WH Counsel and run badly because their filings on state secrets, wiretapping, and torture have actually been to the right of Bush whether you believe me or not. Johnsen’s fellow bloggers are already in place at OLC (Harvard’s David Barron and Georgetown’s Marty Lederman). They blogged on Bush’s non-constitutional moves for 8 years. They have apparently been ignored on the filings by . Obama DOJ. Expect that to change once Johnsen is in the driver’s seat.

Obama DOJ lost a big one today because Judge Richard Leon, in D.C. District Court, the federal judge who has previously upheld the broadest detention power for the government ruled on Monday that torture of an individual and the passage of time after he had ties to terrorism can end his status as an enemy of the United States, and require his release.

U.S. District Judge Richard J. Leon, ruling in the case of a Syrian national who had links to Al Qaeda in Afghanistan years ago, ruled that the prisoner could no longer be detained as an “enemy combatant,” and the government must make efforts to release him “forthwith.”

(The 13-page ruling came in the case of Abdulrahim Abdul Razak al Ginco [Janko] – District Court docket 05-1310.

Californication

June 23rd, 2009
3:21 pm

Just Nasty & Mean ,
the dimacrats like to be inclusive. RLOL

M Anthony

June 23rd, 2009
3:31 pm

well Just Nasty & Mean, that was then and this is now. I am sure Hannity, Rush and OReilly would be a welcome fixture to most black families Sunday dinner after attending church. All three would politely share their thoughts on black America with these families.

Pubs=Psychotalk

June 23rd, 2009
3:33 pm

You don’t need jack to buy a gun anywhere within minutes in this state or this country. All you need is access to the street and the money and you can get a handgun or an automatic weapon or several of them in literal minutes.

Pubs=Psychotalk

June 23rd, 2009
3:36 pm

Hannit,y Rush and O’reilly are bufoons and great frends to dems who want to be elected, and totally powerless to influence any decisions. Look at the Pubtards drivin’ and cryin’ in the Senate this second as Cloture moves to goble them up–even before Franken is seated. Koh and Johnsen will be confirmed soon and the pubs can’t do jack about it. Corynyn, a typical former Southern judge is full of sound and fury, signifying a superficial knowledge of law coming from a Texas Supreme Court that holds the national historic record in being reversed by a conservative Renquist majority.

I particularly like the bouncy bouncy fat butt Rush icon used by MSNBC.

Truth Only Please

June 23rd, 2009
3:37 pm

Just Nasty & Mean – there are many ways to exercise control on minorities other than violence, fire hoses, and dogs. Have you ever been outside of Atlanta? If you don’t think that racism still exists and that there’s good reason for the law – you are probably one dyed in the wool racist yourself.

Californication

June 23rd, 2009
3:43 pm

CopyLeft, why do you live here? Surrounded by rednecks you must like it, but given this is a free country please feels free to leave. I hear that Russia is looking for a few good commies…

GA= third world country

June 23rd, 2009
3:44 pm

The south doesn’t deserve to be able to control it’s election process. A majority of people in the south are still either overtly or discretely racists. It was only one generation ago that Jim Crow segregation was firmly in place. Unfortunately racism is still prevalent throughout the country, but it is in the south where laws were changed to disenfranchise minorities.

Copyleft

June 23rd, 2009
3:47 pm

Calif, what an odd comment! After all, my ideals are quintessentially American values. It seems like the Rabid Right are the folks who want to shred our Constitution (in fact, they cheered as Bush was doing that very thing) and set up a theocracy.

In which case, the Middle East has a nice assortment of right-wing, violence-loving theocratic societies where you’d feel right at home! Why not check them out? America belongs to liberals, the REAL Americans.

As for this particular region, I’m here to help drag the South into line with the sane parts of the country. It can’t stay backward and ignorant forever and still call itself part of “America”–and I’m sure the southern bigots and secessionists would agree.

Two options in life: You can think, or you can be conservative. What was your choice?

Copyleft

June 23rd, 2009
3:52 pm

Oh, and JNM: Thanks for the history lesson on how the Southern Democrat party used to be the home for white bigotry.

Did your studies move on past the Civil Rights Act, when they all stampeded to the Republican Party and have been living there ever since?

Y’know, Lincoln was a Republican. But today’s Republicans would’ve gladly shot him for daring to free the slaves. Times change, and the GOP is now the home territory for southern bigots.

It’s a shame your knowlege of history ended in the 1960s.

DebbieDoRight

June 23rd, 2009
3:57 pm

The State of Georgia should, like Texas and Oklahoma, declare itself a republic and tell the Federal Government to go to He@@

You tell em!!! The next time a twister hits Georgia and takes out the county you live in; don’t you run to FEMA for federal aid; you just ask Sonny and JimBoy to help out with some funds!!! Oh, and tell them to give back that stimulus money too!!!

Nasty&Mean: When Thurmond later turned Republican, he had moderated his position and admitted that he had been wrong about segregation and equal rights for black people.

HA!!! FIND that statement and post it here, I’d LOVE to see it…..you obviously know NOTHING about Strom Thurmond!!! He NEVER changed his opinions about blacks, (its OK to sleep with them but PLEASE dont’ allow them to sit at the same table in a restaurant with ya!!!) — FYI: Every hard line Old Guard Republican was once a democrat. When JFK opened the door for blacks to enter; Nixon saw the opportunity to seize power for the republicans by initiating the “southern strategy” in order to win votes from whites who were angered about the aspect of Equal Opportunity for Blacks. Reagan, who was once a democrat, was one of the main instigators and best student of the “southern Strategy”. :roll:

findog

June 23rd, 2009
4:21 pm

Just Nasty & Mean @ 2:50 pm
The Southern Democrats of the 60’s are today’s Republican Leaders.
Those Republican’s you mention are now called RINO’s by the GOP; albeit that few hold national office as the Liberal Republican’s died off too quick for the endangered species act to save them.
I’ll give you all the reverse discrimination you want if you will find one successful African-American that admits affirmative action helped them: Rice, Powell, or Thomas would be nice…

Wondering

June 23rd, 2009
4:23 pm

Copyleft, you might be interested to know that Lincoln’s original plan was not exactly to free the slaves, but to send them all back to Africa. In fact, the country of Liberia was started for exactly that purpose, and was founded by slaves sent by the American Colonization Society. However, the rich plantation owners would have none of that, even though his plan included compensation to the slave owners.

Also, with the failure of that plan to ever take root, freeing slaves was never on the presidential agenda, until the south seceded. And, the Emancipation Proclamation was only written in order to keep England from entering the war on the side of the South.

So, perhaps it is YOUR knowledge of history that needs updating?

Algonquin J. Calhoun

June 23rd, 2009
4:33 pm

Please! Jim, you know that Georgia is still discriminating. That’s what the voter ID law is all about, legalizing discrimination! Stop with the bull!

FAX News

June 23rd, 2009
4:36 pm

Count FOX’s Sean Hannity among those who are N-O-T forgiving John Ensign.

Asked about Ensign’s viability as a senator, the conservative host declared: “[I]f you’re going to be a family-values candidate and a family-values politician, and you don’t live up to that, I think you should resign.”

lovelyliz

June 23rd, 2009
4:48 pm

Wondering,

Since when have illegals wanted to vote. They want nothing to do with the government if they can at all help. The come. They work. They don’t vote.

“An average of 8 people per year are convicted or plead guilty to committing voter fraud in national election (the most participatory elections.) (Project Vote)”

“One study estimated that about one in five African Americans born in the 1939-40 period lack a birth certificate because of these problems.”(S. Shapiro) African Americans, senior citizens and those living in rural areas are more likely to lack birth certificates or passports and would be more strongly affected (than white, urban and young). (L. Ku)”

“Even the Republican prosecutor of the largest ACORN case to date said the shenanigans of ACORN workers were “not intended to permit illegal voting.”

Election fraud does exist, but hasn’t been shown to be widespread. The New York Times reported in 2007 that a five-year crackdown on such fraud by the Bush administration’s Justice Department had produced 70 convictions at the federal level, including 40 campaign workers or government workers convicted of vote-buying, intimidation or ballot forgery, and 23 cases of multiple voting or voting by ineligible voters. But the Times described these as unconnected incidents and said the Justice Department had turned up no evidence of “any organized effort to skew federal elections.”

yank

June 23rd, 2009
4:52 pm

Considering how many still haven’t gotten over the Civil War which ended in 1865, expecting them to honor the Voting Right Act which was first signed in 1965, 100 years later, would not be the prudent thing to do.

booger

June 23rd, 2009
4:52 pm

To all of you IDphobes, peolple are still looking, but have yet to find that first ID disenfranchised voter. Lots of bluster about nothing.

lovelyliz

June 23rd, 2009
5:21 pm

“For example, in Muscogee County in Georgia, the report says, a county official purged 700 people from voter lists for criminal convictions. Many of the people who received letters informing them of the purge, however, had never even received a parking ticket.”

“Another study, by the group U.S. PIRG, released last week, also looked at the issue of voter purging and discovered that 19 states are ignoring a federal law banning systematic purges within 90 days of a federal election.”

Pubs=Psychotalk

June 23rd, 2009
5:49 pm

Georgia is one of many states where anyone with a conviction has their voting rights automatically restored when they have completed their sentences. The constitution is appropriately vague on this because it’s a hick state offering the poorest educational resources in the country and addresses this by saying people lose the vote due to “moral turpitude.” Was there moral turpitude when Mike Bowers was strolling across the street for 10 years and applying the Ensign position to his secretary?

As to parking tickets, Georgia is one of the very few states where a person could serve a year and pay a $1000 fine if convicted of the most minor misdemeanor including improper lane change or 10 mph over a given speed limit and this is because the individual county managers guard this turf fiercely in order to gain revenue.

By law anyone who faces even probabion has a US Supreme Court right to have counsel provided, and of course, Georgia is in violation of this law, and now that Mac Crawford heads the Public Defender Standards council even defendants accused of serious felonies are not getting counsel appointed as they langushi for months and years prior to trial.

The case law mandating appointment of counsel if even time on probation is a possibility is below:

Barnes v. State, 275 Ga. 499 (2002) Opinion by Leah Ward Sears
Jones V. Terry 279 Ga. 623 (2005) Opinion by Harold MeltonS05A1125

The authority cited by these Ga. Supreme Court cases is of course Alabama v. LeReed Shelton. Citations, 535 U.S. 654, Ginsburg J. with Scalia the Skank dissenting.

san francisco perspective

June 23rd, 2009
5:55 pm

wondering,

as lovelyliz already noted, there is NO epidemic of illegal immigrants voting in this country. think about it: if you were here illegally, would you show up to vote ? many undocumented workers are afraid to even open bank accounts….

the voting fraud storyline is, as most studies show, a bogus one. far more serious is voter disenfranchisement, especially the racially discriminatory impact of “felon” disenfrachisement.

and for the record, i think non-citizen residents SHOULD be allowed to vote in elections.

Pubs=Psychotalk

June 23rd, 2009
5:59 pm

During a vote Monday evening, Ensign was greeted warmly by both Democrats and Republicans, who approached him, shook his hand and gave him hugs. He was greeted by a slew of senators, including Lindsey Graham, John Cornyn, Bill Nelson, Jon Kyl, John Thune, Saxby Chambliss, Mel Martinez, John Barrasso, Lamar Alexanader, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, John Kerry, Kent Conrad and Chuck Schumer.

Not quite the same for a gay Senate episode like the restroom rumble of Larry Craig/

Dave

June 23rd, 2009
6:25 pm

TIME IS UP EVIL REPUBLICANS – you must be both young and stupid. It was the LBJ, yellow dog democrats that held down the “blackman.” Try to at least read history, if you can read…

clyde

June 23rd, 2009
6:41 pm

Since I choose not to show a voter ID I don’t bother to go to the polls anymore.I know several people that do the same thing.Strangely enough,we all tend to vote Republican.It’s their loss.

Copyleft

June 23rd, 2009
6:45 pm

Wondering: Yes, I’m aware of that. I’m also aware of the fact that today’s Southern Republican bigot brigade would still be driven to violence by the suggestion that blacks were human, which was, y’know, the POINT.

Pubs=Psychotalk

June 23rd, 2009
7:32 pm

Hapless Handel gets humongous butt kicked yet again.

cbgb

June 23rd, 2009
7:50 pm

This whole argument reeks of ignorance. Worse that what the author purports. There’s nothing inherently wrong with the South. In the hearts of men? You betcha.

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

June 23rd, 2009
8:07 pm

YOU ARE RIGHT JUST MEAN AND NASTY,BUT REMEMBER THAT THE REDNECKS HICKS WERE DEMOCRAPS 1ST,THEN THEY CHANGED TO GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERSTUPID! AND NOW WITH ASIAN HISPANIC ARAB INDIAN AND BLACK BEING IN THE SOUTH YOU REDNECKS ARE OUTNUMBERED NOW,GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOUR LAME KLAN RALLY CAUSE YOUR KIND IS DYING OFF!

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

June 23rd, 2009
8:11 pm

DAVE YOU TOO ARE SUPERSTUPID,BECAUSE THE DEMOCRAPS FROM THE 60`S AND 70`S AND 80`S ARE NOW THE EVIL REPUBLICANS SO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT DUMB HICK!

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

June 23rd, 2009
8:14 pm

DAVE YOU ARE ALSO SUPERSTUPID BECAUSE THE REDNECKS WERE DEMOCRAPS IN THE 60`S 70`S AND 80`S AND NOW THEY SWITCHED TO BECOME EVIL REPUBLICANS.

Base

June 23rd, 2009
10:52 pm

No one cares what you think wimp wooten.Why don’t you go away.

Independent Thinker

June 24th, 2009
5:57 am

I really will be happy when the Third part whatever it may be emerges and stomps the republicrats and depulicans right out of office so we won’t need to discuss this anymore.

bob

June 24th, 2009
7:37 am

not originally from the south but I thought many states like Georgia were totally dominated by Democrats, in fact, I was surprised to learn that republicans never had control of the house or senate or the office of the governor until 2000. Are you telling me that Democrats played a large roll in this discrimination ? How can that be, other than Robert Byrd, I thought the racists were all repubs.

Copyleft

June 24th, 2009
7:59 am

Bob: I don’t understand your argument. You’re saying that past Democratic control of the legislature is proof that southern bigots can’t possibly be Republicans? How does that work?

Peter

June 24th, 2009
8:04 am

Write something real Jim…….Ga Tech and Midtown is in Bondage……