Bound by mutual respect
With weeks to go before my longtime colleague and I part working company forever, the thing you wouldn’t know about Cynthia Tucker is something she doesn’t know herself. I’ve never brought it up.
It explains, though, why ideological differences never soured a collegial working relationship or a decades-long friendship.
For probably more than 20 years, we’ve disagreed. It’s not an act. It’s not contrived. It’s not a put-up to sell newspapers. She has one view of how to build a better America. I have another.
Yet the disagreements were very Southern. Always civil, always polite. Never personal.
Only once, as I recall, did we both simply lock down and walk away. On a weekend during the 2000 presidential election’s Florida recount we came to the office on Saturday to prepare a joint Sunday editorial. At the time, The Journal and The Constitution had separate editorial boards.
We argued our case jointly and apart with the then-editor, Ron Martin. The result was this notice in the Sunday paper:
“ The presidential controversy that has divided the nation has divided the AJC’s editorial boards as well. Since the core of their disagreement is the question of whether to include hand-counted ballots in the final Florida tally, each board offers its own take on that issue.”
When the boards merged a year later with Cynthia as the editorial page editor, she was as gracious as a boss as she had been as an equal. She listened respectfully to my arguments, modified her positions occasionally and sought always, in the Southern small-town tradition that is our mutual heritage, to avoid demeaning slights or public displays of authority during our frequent debates.
Neither she, nor anybody in positions of authority over me at this newspaper or in the family or corporation that owns it, ever direct me to write, or not write, about any topic.
While Cynthia could elect to edit my column or not after the editorial boards merged, she never once made a revision that changed tone, content or meaning. As a colleague, she sometimes offered friendly constructive suggestions and more often than not, I took them. But the choice, always, was mine.
I thought of our relationship as that of two Southern farm families who lived side-by-side for generations, our fate tied to the same rain and earth. We had our differences. We tended the soil differently. But yet, we couldn’t move the dirt and we couldn’t change the rain. So we didn’t play pointless power games.
Truth is that long before the Bush-Gore standoff in Florida or the merger that brought me into her dominion, I had already decided that I could never speak ill to or of Cynthia Tucker.
That moment came in September of 1995. She does not know this. I have never told her.
On that fall afternoon, I sat in a chapel grieving the first deeply painful loss of my life. Midway up, I saw Cynthia. She and some of my Journal colleagues had driven from Atlanta to Macon for my mother’s funeral.
In the South of old, where lives were layered in connections, people shared the joys and sorrows of each others’ lives. It seems to us an ordinary thing. To those who are mourning, as I discovered on that September day, nothing spoken in compassion is a cliche; no presence is ordinary or assumed. Cynthia on that day filled one of the thousands of voids that had come suddenly into my life.
She is a well-raised Southern girl of good heart and considerable talent who has enjoyed great success in this business, as a Pulitzer attests.
I’ll let her tell you what she wants about her life. In mine, she will always be the caring soul on a September pew.
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125 comments Add your comment
the evil rich
June 5th, 2009
8:57 pm
Oh come on, you don’t have to speak ill of her, but when it comes to politics, she’s just WRONG!
JimC
June 5th, 2009
9:07 pm
I agree, Cynthia is usually wrong when it comes to knowing what’s good about the US and what we need to keep to stay strong and free. But I’ve met Cynthia, and she’s a very charming and intelligent person. If only she hadn’t gotten turned to the Dark Side. And that is not a racial comment!
Mark
June 5th, 2009
9:20 pm
Cynthia Tucker ruined this newspaper. She should be deported.
catlady
June 5th, 2009
10:08 pm
Nicely put. In the South of old, however, she never would have been able to be at your mother’s funeral except as the “help.” Still, there are a lot of good people out there that don’t agree with you (or me).
retiredds
June 5th, 2009
10:12 pm
Jim, as you can see by Mark’s response, there are some people in this world that can only see what’s wrong in others. For people like Mark the glass is half-full. While I am on the opposite side of your views most of the time occasionally, like this time, I like and agree with what you have to say. Good piece of work.
wishing
June 5th, 2009
10:36 pm
I agree with retiredds
Tank
June 5th, 2009
11:20 pm
I believe Cynthia to be intelligent and passionate. However, her push to make the AJC an agent of liberal change rather than a means to report news has brought the AJC to it’s knees. Radio, television and the internet have taken their toll, but Cynthia and liberals like her have brought this once great estate to ruin.
This re-birth of the AJC will be short lived and her departure is too little, too late.
the evil rich
June 5th, 2009
11:43 pm
retiredds, The glass IS half empty, what’s the problem?
Country Boy
June 5th, 2009
11:45 pm
Surely Ralph McGill didn’t hire Cynthia.
the truth...
June 6th, 2009
12:22 am
Cynthia…..please take Jay Bookman with you….
Dr. Craig Spinks /Evans
June 6th, 2009
1:05 am
EXTREMELY WELL-PUT by a son of The South about a daughter of The South.
BigMike
June 6th, 2009
2:37 am
Conservatives, Cynthia not thinking the way you think she should isn’t a bad thing. Judging by Fox News you guys should go be concerned with Hang em Hannity, and Plush Limboy tearing down any chance for the RNC. Oh! By the way Palin was on display again on Fox, that REALLY helps you guy’s. Hey if you stay tuned, maybe the other girl will be on her 1st baby by next election, and Ol’ Todd will be doing more than fishing while his wife wheres the Hanes. Come to think of it maybe Charlie Sheen, and Michael Jordan may have room in that commercial.
BigMike
June 6th, 2009
2:44 am
From South Carolina to texas John McCain won the electorial vote. Still the same old south! Preservative is the oprative word that is really preferred over conservative. THE good ol’ south!
Lou
June 6th, 2009
3:54 am
Nice column but misses the point. The trials and troubles of the AJC can be laid squarely on the shoulders of Cynthia Tucker. The paper was tottering before she assumed her head editorial duties but she pushed it over the edge. She was so very out of step with most of the people who subscribe (or used to subscribe) to the AJC that her appointment is beyond comprehension. Good riddance. Washington’s loss is Atlanta’s gain.
Bisi
June 6th, 2009
4:13 am
As a long time of resident of Atlanta and now living and working in Nigeria, I look forward to both of your articles even from far away Africa. You guys brought forth sound ideological views on state of affairs in the country and the State of Georgia. While I don’t always agree with Cynthia ‘almost personal’ take on issues, Jim’s approach is more though provoking and less emotional than Cynthia. Both have contributed significantly to just about all issue we have had to deal with as a nation in the last 20 years. Jim’s article on Cynthia is an embodiment of all that is good about America; fairness, eqaulity, justice and freedom of speech. I am glad to have been an avid reader of both Jim and Cynthia especially living and working in Nigeria where disagreements and differences of opinion may cost you your job or worse, death. Thank you, Jim and goodluck in your next endeavors.
J Moore
June 6th, 2009
5:07 am
Cynthia Tucker is a scourge. Simply put, she is a black racist. After all, isn’t that why she chose to go to Washington? “To share in an historic moment of the first black president” or some garbage like that. Not enough bad words can be said about her. Until conservatives find out how to truly combat the socialists like Cynthia, we will continue to lose elections. Cynthia never met a government handout she didn’t like. Let’s truly fight against the likes of Jay.
Mike
June 6th, 2009
6:23 am
Although I never agree with anything Jim writes, I am aware of the Cynthia he writes about in this article. She received that from her old black southern parents. It is a quality from them she must have learned, you dont hate, you can disagree and you most of all have compassion for people. Jim I know how you felt when Cynthia came into that chapel. In spite of the differences and the years of opposition. You felt really good at a bad time in your life. And I suspect no matter where Cynthia is, there will always be a special place in your heart for her. Reading the majority of your bloggers, isn’t it sad they most likely will never in their lives have the same feelings. Just think of what some of these bloggers are passing on to their kids today.
Joel Edge
June 6th, 2009
6:37 am
Classy column. She’ll be back in a few years after this Obama dog and pony show collapses.
Churchill's MOM
June 6th, 2009
6:43 am
Jim, it is nice that you are writting about a WOMAN for a change. Men have pretty well destroyed America. Monday would be a great day for you to write about our next President.
SENECA FALLS, N.Y. — Governor Sarah Palin paused Friday afternoon in front of a monument bearing the Declaration of Sentiments, an early feminist touchstone.
“We anticipate no small amount of ridicule,” she read, and remarked: “Some things never change.”
America’s most famous Republican elected official quietly took a commercial flight into sleepy Central New York Thursday and spent Friday on a private tour of landmarks of early feminism — Harriet Tubman’s house, the Women’s Rights National Historic Park, and the National Women’s Hall of Fame — for the low-key beginning of a week-long return to the lower 48 states and another step in the attempt to recalibrate her public image.
Palin, consumed by the media freak-show during last fall’s presidential campaign and its aftermath, is taking a deliberately low-key path, and making sure to link the visit to her responsibilities as governor.
She’s traveling with her husband, Todd, and her 14-year old daughter, Willow, as well as her sister and nephew, and the public events are deliberately focused and on a human scale. She has a single political aide, spokeswoman Meghan Stapleton, and two volunteer advance men. Her staff have scheduled no mass rallies or major addresses and made no attempt to court the media, or even inform it of her plans, which have been announced piecemeal by the groups hosting her.
She is to participate in a march to raise money for autism research Sunday in Westchester and accept an award on Long Island for her work on behalf of people with developmental disabilities.
But as the first woman on a national Republican ticket, the party’s top grass-roots star and an obvious contender for the 2012 nomination, she’s a sought-after guest whose every move will be studied for political intent. And for some, the buzz is too good to pass up. She’s expected to join former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani at a Yankee game. And though she riled Washington allies earlier this year by turning down an invitation to headline this week’s joint fundraiser of the House and Senate Republican campaign committees in Washington, she may now stop by the event, a source said, though Stapleton declined to comment on her schedule.
But Palin, whose popularity at home declined after the presidential campaign, is trying to keep the core of the trip focused on her native Alaska: She’ll be the headliner tomorrow at an event in Auburn marking the 50th anniversary of Alaska’s statehood at the historic home of former Secretary of State William Seward. Seward’s 1867 purchase of Alaska from Russia – Seward’s folly, as it was known at the time, though the label is discouraged around here – may have been the most controversial Arctic acquisition until McCain chose to add Palin to his ticket. Local authorities say they expect more than 20,000 people for the Founder’s Day event linking Auburn and Alaska. And Palin will be holding meetings in Washington, D.C., and Texas on a natural resources issue, Stapleton said likely negotiations over a key pipeline project.
Friday, though, Palin started her day at Tubman’s five-room house in Auburn.
“This is so good for our country,” she told the president of the foundation that manages the house, Karen Hill. She admired a 1960s-vintage painting of an angel hovering behind a young African-American boy.
“She knew something had to be taken care of and she stepped up and she did it,” Palin said of Tubman after leaving the house.
**********Handel 2010******Palin Mccain 2012**************
clyde
June 6th, 2009
6:50 am
You’re a class act ,Jim.
Eddy
June 6th, 2009
7:16 am
Well said Jim. Of course, I would expect such a tribute from you. Nothing but class. Best wishes to you as you retire.
Somewhere deep in her soul, Cynthia is a very good, kind and caring person. But on the surface she just cannot see anything except black vs. white and rarely right vs. wrong regardless of color. The shallowness is what we read in her columns. But you got a glimpse of her soul that September day.
Bitter EX democrackkk
June 6th, 2009
7:18 am
Ron Paul 2012
http://www.CampaignforLiberty.org
ooo
June 6th, 2009
7:26 am
When Palin was mayor over a little town ..6,000 and it had no debt when she took office and needed someone to come in an teach her what to do …even told her –let us get someone to teach you ..left it in $22 million in debt yah! Palin you know what you are talking about..
Jack
June 6th, 2009
8:17 am
Nicely done, good to be reminded that we can disagree without being disagreeable. Ms. Tucker will be missed and it helps me to be reminded that you conservatives can be compassionate.
jconservative
June 6th, 2009
8:29 am
The discussion over the years between Jim & Cynthia again points out that an intelligtent conversation cannot take place if name calling dominates. Anyone familiar with the issues should be able to discuss the issues without resorting to elementary school tactics.
I will miss them both.
Aquagirl
June 6th, 2009
8:31 am
Wonderful column, Jim. I miss the America filled with journalists like you and Cynthia Tucker.
stevew
June 6th, 2009
8:45 am
You’re a class act Charley Brown. Cynthia on the other hand is a Socialist..
gmc
June 6th, 2009
8:55 am
Really sorry to see you leave Jim. Your editorial has been my favorite for years.
Also glad you pointed out that Cynthia has a soul. You could never tell by her
comments. She always seems bitter about something. Best of luck to you Jim.
Howard
June 6th, 2009
9:41 am
Jim…Cynthia Tucker is a far-left loon who, along with Jay Bookman, Luckavich, etc., ruined your once great paper. Why subscribe to the AJC when you can read it on line and not have to even remotely see one word written by these out-of-touch humanoids who would gladly hand the keys to this country over to the Muslims in a second??? Cynthia Tucker and Cynthia McKinney…not one iota of difference between them, politics wise. McKinney might have made better copy, come to think of it!! Good riddance to her and her far-left looney-tunes journalism…she’ll fit right in among the residents of the capitol city of Obama-nation!!!
Marge
June 6th, 2009
9:57 am
I just read the government is going to officially re-name I-285 as ” RING AROUND THE CONGO .”
Aquagirl
June 6th, 2009
10:45 am
Speaking of “can’t agree to disagree without being an A-hole…”
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/04/smith-media-bias-threat/
Fulton
June 6th, 2009
10:48 am
Mr. Wooten. Thank you for having a level headed approach to this madness. Although we have different views, your candor is still very much appreciated. However, as I read the responses from most of YOUR readers…we can see the small mindedness, the namecalling, insults, the bomb-throwing-cliches, its always the same thing from THOSE TYPES…and that is EXACTLY a large part of what is STILL wrong with America today.
For example. ‘Liberals’ never hoped for Republican failure in the White House (they did a great job of failing on their own) because they realized, that failure would affect US ALL. Sadly, it doesn’t seem the other side can understand this very same concept…
Take Care, Jim W.
gatorman770
June 6th, 2009
10:48 am
Both Cynthias are like having hemorrhoids…..they’re a pain when you have them around, they’re a pain gettin’ rid, but you’re sure happy when they are finally gone!
MamaS
June 6th, 2009
11:07 am
I am truly astonished. I did not know that Jim Wooten could say anything good about any woman!
JD
June 6th, 2009
11:12 am
Aquagirl,
Is your point that Fox News has a conservative bias while attempting to compete in an industry with virtually every newspaper, the three major networks and MSNBC all spouting nothing but liberal drivel and promoting the liberal agenda?
Gee, seems with the newspaper industry effectively down the drain, the three major networks floundering and MSNBC losing in the prime time ratings – perhaps the public has spoken on the issue. Liberalism = Loser = Nonsense.
Could this be so? Oh, and please do not cite the ‘08 election as a rebuttal. Jimmy Carter was a fluke, Bill Clinton attracted the female vote and the biggest fluke of all – BO. You could even go back to JFK. What do each of these have in common? UNKNOWNS who ran against Nixon, Ford (an honest, caring man but not much of a politician) GHW Bush (see Ford) and Bob Dole. These four might have been surpassed in their lack of charism only by McCain. “Surpassed in their lack”? Well, you get the point.
"Charles", The Original
June 6th, 2009
11:26 am
If Jim Wooten were a black man, I would simply say, N….. Please! Jim Wooten’s respect for Cynthia Tucker and vise versa is one derived from a controlled environment.
If the dear leader of North Korea, Kim Jong-Il, and the leader of South Korea, Lee Myung-bak, were placed in a controlled environment, and both are depended upon the Atlanta Constitution for money, food, clothing, shelter, education, and employment, their ideologies would become incidental to their survival and friendship. They would be bound by mutual respect because the will to survive trumps ideology.
Tama
June 6th, 2009
11:42 am
Tucker all but set up the decline of the Atlanta Urinal Constipation bed wetter. So much liberalism, so much left wing bias, so little time to waste on bird cage lining. Top that off with the bed wetter liberals bed wetting over Faux News, and you’ve got a recipe for idiocy. It’s proven on this blog on a daily basis: libturds calling conservatives “trolls” on a conservative blog. Priceless.
John
June 6th, 2009
12:17 pm
Class column about an editorialist with class. Although I disagree with Cynthia McKinney more than I agree with her, I always respect her. She lays out reasons for her positions. This is the same thing you have always done. And, after all, she is an Alabama native and an Auburn graduate. With those backgrounds alone, she can’t be bad.
Aquagirl
June 6th, 2009
12:55 pm
JD @11:12 No, my point was an elected Republican thinks “liberal media” is a bigger threat to this country than terrorists. First, creating a “liberal media” (such as you have done) encapsulates a paranoid, divided thinking. Second, considering a large number of Americans as enemies to be personally degraded guarantees social insanity. It also displays breathtaking egotism and arrogance–the kind you display when you analyze and dismiss the ‘08 election according to a whimsical pseudo-expert worldview.
I don’t know about the public, but Jim has spoken on today’s subject and it’s lack of class. Thanks for unwittingly weighing in on the topic.
JD
June 6th, 2009
1:33 pm
Thank you but I was well “wittened”.
Perhaps in the context that the media becomes nothing more than a shill for one point of view or another, then the media does pose a threat. Bigger than terrorists? That would be a subjective measure at best but as long as there are those here who believe the media and government have the people’s best interest as motivation for action, then the media is a threat.
In all regimes who attempt to limit freedom and dissent, the first two steps are to control the media and ban individual gun ownership. Now that seems to sound familiar.
I did not “create” a liberal media, the media accomplished that on their own.
By the by, I read recently the State of Missouri (that bastion of rednecks and those awful Christians clinging to their guns and religion) passed legislation requiring any candidate on the ballot, for local, state or federal office, be certified by the Secretary of State as being eligible under the State and US Constitutions to hold the office they seek. That should be interesting in 2012. Assuming of course the Democrat ticket is the same as 2008.
“Whimsical pseudo-expert worldview”? About time to rebind and cover the old thesaurus for you it would appear. So can you refute my comment regarding the unknown nature of JFK, Carter, Clinton and Obama?
You, and obviously a large number of Americans, can easily be deluded by the media and the purely political rantings of an unaccomplished, unknown, Chicago- Mafia produced egomaniac who is clearly in over his head, or in his words, making decisions well above “his pay grade”.
Shammed
June 6th, 2009
1:43 pm
Sorry to jump in here on Aquagirl’s yammer, but I have to:
“JD @11:12 No, my point was an elected Republican thinks “liberal media” is a bigger threat to this country than terrorists.”
And you liberals think the same thing about anti-abortion activists. Why, how much liberal media cast the light on that while all but ignoring the radical muslim who murdered a US military recruiter?
“First, creating a “liberal media” (such as you have done) encapsulates a paranoid, divided thinking.”
Laughable! A liberal, from a group that thrives on class warfare and group classifications, has the gall to talk about divided thinking! Second, we didn’t “create” the liberal media. They created themselves when they left objectivity. Their fawning over Obama says it all.
“Second, considering a large number of Americans as enemies to be personally degraded guarantees social insanity.”
Only you liberals would make that stretch. But we already know you fascist liberals want to shut up the voice of dissent, or at the least, call it “hate” speech.
“It also displays breathtaking egotism and arrogance–the kind you display when you analyze and dismiss the ‘08 election according to a whimsical pseudo-expert worldview.”
Breathtaking egotism and arrogance – like the DEMOCRATS have displayed for two years running congress, and more recently, four months in the White House. Again, laughable! You liberals would be pathetic if you weren’t such fine entertainers of hypocrisy.
Jackie
June 6th, 2009
3:47 pm
@Charles
Something has emboldened you enough to crawl out of your hole. You just could not wait to inject you vile and not-so-subtle racist attitude.
Jackie
June 6th, 2009
3:48 pm
@Wooten
I do not agree with your politics, however, I am of the STRONG belief that you are a decent and caring human being. Often times, you allow the mellow in you to emerge. Congrats.
getalife
June 6th, 2009
3:49 pm
Thanks for supporting 8 years of destruction of our country Jim.
Perhaps you should apologize and admit all the times you were dead wrong to try to save your soul.
Jackie
June 6th, 2009
3:59 pm
News reports indicate 8 of the banks were repaying the stimulus loans early with the Federal Government getting back more than they were loaned.
Most economists are saying the economy has bottomed or will bottom by the next quarter indicating a rebound.
Job losses have slowed – more than 7 million people have lost their jobs – with some economists predicting positive job creation numbers by the end of the 3rd quarter this year.
It appears all this good news will put to rest those charges referring to President Obama is being a Socialist. Frankly, this glimmer of good news will make this country economically strong again and HELP EVERYONE, even those naysayers.
ENJOY!!!
@@
June 6th, 2009
4:24 pm
Dang, Jim! I wasn’t planning on tearing up today. You are a kind and gentle man.
Aside from her political philosophy, it sounds like many of your liberal contributors could learn to emulate the compassion and respect Cynthia has for you.
Thanks for sharing.
"Charles", The Original
June 6th, 2009
5:02 pm
Jackie,
I’m a servant of God. And a servant of God is obligated to tell the truth. Yes, the truth is perceived to be divine and color blind or it can be viewed as vile and racist depending on your level of maturity. So now you know what people mean when they say, “you can’t handle the truth.”
Jackie, if Jim Wooten or Cynthia Tucker had maintained their cherished principles, the AJC would have fired them without warning. Both would have replaced with two columnists willing to sell their souls for money etc… And it’s plenty of those available. Amen?
Bubba Gone Wild
June 6th, 2009
5:32 pm
Nice read Jim. It’s funny reading all the howevers, buts, and althoughs. Southerners appear to be very closed minded. It’s amazing to see the overwhelming dislike for Cynthia Tucker. I have one question though. If she wasn’t present at your mothers funeral, would the gloves come off if there was a disagreement at the AJC? We’ll never know. It continues to amaze me that the same people that continue to drive this country in the dirt refuse to change or compromise. There’s no credibility in any of your comments. None of you people have anything intellegent to offer other than the usual Southern chatter.
Shammed
June 6th, 2009
5:36 pm
The fact that no economic expert knows where the “bottom” is, the fact that no housing expert knows where the “bottom” is, and the fact that this nation’s economy started tanking after the Pelosicrats took over Congress more than two years ago refutes any candyassed claim Jackie made about how great things are. Things WILL get worse under these neo Marxists. You can bank on it.
Shammed
June 6th, 2009
5:44 pm
Oh, and let us not forget how the Chinese laughed at our Tax Cheat In Chief Of US Treasury:
http://www.gold-speculator.com/appenzell-daily-bell/7254-chinese-laugh-geithner-says-assets-safe-public-private-partnerships-best-way.html
By the way, everyone pay special note to the Google liberals showing a Tetris logo today instead of something honoring our D-Day men. What pathetic liberals.
"Charles", The Original
June 6th, 2009
5:50 pm
Jackie,
I can’t speak for everyone else. But I promised the Lord long ago that when I’m on my deathbed facing the light of eternity, no one will be able to convict me of compromising with the devil for a season of pleasure on earth. And after all of these years, I have not bowed to evil. Praise God.
Che was a homicidal maniac
June 6th, 2009
6:03 pm
Cynthia Tucker has played the race card, bashed the GOP while totally ignoring Democrat hypocrisy and got her “facts” wrong on more than one occasion. Good riddance. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
Rosita
June 6th, 2009
7:17 pm
Jim,
This column shows that you are a class act, despite your crazy politics. Live long and prosper.
Shammed
June 6th, 2009
7:19 pm
1) Democrats whined about Republican deficit spending.
2) Democrats whined about Republican illegal wire tapping.
3) Democrats whined about Republicans not capturing Osama.
4) Democrats whined about Republicans sending jobs overseas.
5) Democrats whined about Republicans not pulling out of Iraq.
6) Democrats whined about Republican cronyism.
7) Democrats whined about Republican corruption.
This was when Bush was in office. Now that these circus clown liberals are in office, guess who’s silent now about all the above? Uh uh.
Shammed
June 6th, 2009
7:21 pm
Che: my favorite “fact” that Tucker got wrong was writing about how we should drop cans of SPAM to the Afghan refugees (yeah, that SPAM loaded with pork). (For the Obama voters, Muslims don’t eat pork).
Shammed
June 6th, 2009
7:53 pm
Typical forum liberal:
“It’s amazing to see the overwhelming dislike for Cynthia Tucker. ”
Oh gee, and you liberals have such overwhelming LOVE for Rush, Hannity, Jim himself here according to lib blog history, and any other Conservative. Are you liberals serious?
“It continues to amaze me that the same people that continue to drive this country in the dirt refuse to change or compromise.”
The nation ran fine under Reagan and actually did pretty well under Bush until you Demoncats got hold of Congress. And further, HELL NO I’m not going to yield to you Stalinist Statist wannabe liberal Demoncats.
“There’s no credibility in any of your comments. None of you people have anything intellegent [sic] to offer other than the usual Southern chatter.”
Thanks for making my first point above, drooling liberal mouth breather.
Pulitzer perspective
June 6th, 2009
7:58 pm
Before we use an award to validate Cynthia Tucker, let’s not forget that Yasar Arafat at one time won a Nobel Peace Prize.
Boots
June 6th, 2009
8:12 pm
Because of the progressive and liberal influence in this country, we have child labor laws, a 40 hour work week for most people, safety on the job, public education, Public Health, healthcare (for most who work or can afford it), Social Security, civil rights, unemployment benefits, the FDIC, the highest standard of living anywhere and more than I can innumerate.
Now, many of those who are conservative may not appreciate the contributions of moderates and liberals of past generations; however, my life has been made better by their influences.
Regarding Jim Wooten, I read his column often. More often than not, I disagree, but appreciate the clarity of his thoughts and writing style.
I’ll miss you Jim, and appreciate the spirit of this column.
Shammed
June 6th, 2009
8:26 pm
Liberal Mainstream media headline under Obama and Democrat Congress rule:
“US loses just 345,000 jobs in May, raising hopes” (”just” 345,000 jobs you asshats? How’d you MSM Obama boot licking liberals like to be one of those “just” 345,000 people?)
Same Liberal Mainstream Media headline under Bush and Republican Congress:
“US slashes 345,000 jobs in May and no end to the bleeding in sight.”
Liberal Mainstream media headline under Obama and Democrat Congress rule:
“Jobless rate inches past nine percent unexpectedly.”
Same Liberal Mainstream Media headline under Bush and Republican Congress:
“Jobless rate skyrockets past nine percent and no relief in sight.”
Shammed
June 6th, 2009
8:33 pm
More blog idiocy:
“Because of the progressive and liberal influence in this country, we have child labor laws,”
We advanced as a nation. Liberalism had nothing to do with it.
“a 40 hour work week for most people,”
Ditto.
Safety on the job,”
I’ll give that one to you.
“public education,”
We’ve ALWAYS had “public” education. And it continues to FAIL.
“Public Health, healthcare (for most who work or can afford it),”
Yeah, government incompetents at its finest at the VA and other public health institutions. Can’t wait to see what Obama and the liberal Democrats have in store for us.
“Social Security,
FAILED and BROKE.
“civil rights,”
Both Conservatives and Liberals were involved with that. We had George Wallace of course and you liberals had Robert Byrd in those days. Spare us the nonsensical partisan BS.
“unemployment benefits,”
I’ll give you that one too. We’re going to need them with the current crop of fascists running Washington.
“the FDIC,”
Again, had nothing to do with liberal or conservative.
“the highest standard of living anywhere and more than I can innumerate”
Due to HARD work, FORTITUDE, SELF determination, SELF reliance, and SELF discipline to better oneself, which ALL go against the grain of liberalism.
Boots
June 6th, 2009
8:48 pm
There had to be an environment in which those character attibutes could bear fruit — and that environment didn’t exist for most Americans under the robber barons of the Guilded Age.
It took a level playing field and social change to give the working man an opportunity to succeed and if you can’t see that, then you are blind to the realities of our history.
Tony Smith
June 6th, 2009
9:04 pm
Mr. Wooten, your relationship with Ms. Tucker is an example of how liberals and conservatives should conduct themselves in our society. Neither we nor our leaders are able to conduct ourselves in a civil manner any longer. But we should.
Che was a homicidal maniac
June 6th, 2009
9:10 pm
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Che was a homicidal maniac
June 6th, 2009
9:11 pm
Cynthia Tucker once wrote an op-ed piece on Judge Pickering of Mississippi. Said he was a racist judge. What’s funny is that she got all of her facts wrong AND many blacks came out in support of him.
Shame on Cynthia Tucker for lying.
BoatRacer
June 6th, 2009
9:24 pm
Shammed;
Go big boy, you got my vote.
It is amazing to think that the liberals think that somehow they are going to get a free ride in the USA(United Socialist America).
clifton grant
June 6th, 2009
10:44 pm
I’m a moderate who rarely agrees fully with either you or Ms. Tucker, but both of you have made me think and, on occasion, have changed my mind. I’ll miss you and her. As for those of you who spew hatred in these and other posts, you’re not only pathetic but, usually, you can’t even spell. Which is why I assume you have no other forum.
Barnabus
June 7th, 2009
12:44 am
Like Clifton just before me, I read both and have my difficulties with both viewpoints. But,I think they are both great people, with great character and an appreciation for education. Thank God for good people of integrity of both stripes.
AJ North
June 7th, 2009
3:16 am
Mr. Wooten, your column exemplifies the innate grace and dignity you possess, irrespective of your politics. It is a real shame, though no surprise, that with their posts, so many of your followers have only proven just how nasty and boorish they truly are. To you and Ms. Tucker, I wish you both only the best.
misterbill
June 7th, 2009
5:18 am
I arrived in Atlanta as a resident in 1996. I quickly subscribed to the Atlanta newspaper. After just a few weeks, I commented to my wife that “this Tucker lady” was a racist and a hate monger. I have not changed my opinion after 13 years. One of the TV reporters attempted to interview her in her driveway fairly recently. She showed that she really did not care about anything except her own wrong headed decisions and refused to be interviewed. I felt that was no way for a supposed newsperson to behave. I seldom read her column. I have often considered cancelling because of her.I most certainly would have cancelled if the AJC sports section wasn’t the best in the area.
Jim Wooten, you are a gentleman, but your encomium for Tucker is gratuitous and as a parting gesture by you, is the only column in which I have been in disagreement with you.
A J North–ever the liberal style–attack those you disagree with. That very effort exemplifies Ms Tucker’s style. You seem to be rather boorish yourself.
AJ North
June 7th, 2009
5:59 am
Well, I ought not be surprised that my comment drew a nasty personal attack. And in so doing, misterbill only proves my point; to wit: “boorish implies rudeness of manner due to insensitiveness to others’ feelings and unwillingness to be agreeable” (Merriam-Webster’s Online Dictionary). I shall leave it to Mr. Wooten to adjudge which of us the definition describes.
WP
June 7th, 2009
7:15 am
Good Riddance to both. The racist hate monger and the fish wrapper.
JUST ME
June 7th, 2009
10:00 am
Two things to appreciate and one to be sorry for. Cynthia and Cynthia are gone. That’s good. Jim will be replaced by a clone of Cynthia, and that’s bad. Goodbye to a sensible conservative writer. AJC will not replace you because they have no room for a conservative or Southern point of view.
GOP PARTY OF UNDERCOVER GAYS
June 7th, 2009
10:18 am
CYNTHIA IS GONE JUST LIKE THE UNDERCOVER LOG CABIN GAY REPUBLICANS,THE RACIST IN THE SOUTH ARE DYING OFF,RUSH LIMBOY IS JUST LIKE CYNTHIA A HATEMONGER WHO LIES TO THE REDNECK GOP HICKS,THAT’S WHY YOU REDNECKS ARE OUT NUMBERED NOW,SO ENJOY YOUR 1ST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT,LIKE YOU HICKS USE TO SAY W STILL THE PRESIDENT, BUT NOW OBAMA STILL THE PRESIDENT.
Jackie
June 7th, 2009
11:44 am
@Charles
If you were money, the person holding you would be arrested for forgery if they were to use you to purchase anything.
Phony money!!!!!
David D. Kaylor
June 7th, 2009
12:20 pm
Cynthia Tucker’s leaving and TV is going digital(leaving). The only thing left worth reading in the paper will be the obituary column and the comics (Craigslist got the classifieds);only things left worth listening to will be WABE and WSB’s Neal Boortz program.
bungie
June 7th, 2009
1:10 pm
Awe, is the food in France up to His Royal Majesty Obama? What is this, a King needed food testers now? People are STARVING and JOBLESS in this nation, and The King vacations in Paris, went on a “Date Night” in NYC last week, and a few months ago went to Hawaii on a vacation. It sure must be nice to thumb your nose at others who are suffering at home – ESPECIALLY when you don’t have a liberal main stream media hounding you ABOUT taking said vacations.
President Obama’s French food tested by ‘taster’
A US “taster” tested the food being dished up to President Barack Obama at a dinner in a French restaurant, a waiter said on Sunday.
“They have someone who tastes the dishes,” said waiter Gabriel de Carvalho from the “La Fontaine de Mars” restaurant where Obama and his family turned up for dinner on Saturday night.
“It wasn’t very pleasant for the cooks at first, but the person was very nice and was relaxed, so it all went well,” he said on the Itele news channel.
Asked by AFP to comment, the restaurant confirmed the report.
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“The United States might send former US vice president Al Gore to Pyongyang in order to negotiate the release of two American journalists on trial in North Korea for illegal entry. ”
Can Manbearpig STAY there, PLEASE? Maybe some of Kim Short Dong’s nukes will warm his world up a bit.
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“Toyota’s Prius was the top seller in Japan, but US sales are down 45 per cent so far this year”
Meanwhile, American liberal smugness on owning a Prius dropped 90%.
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“NEW YORK (AP) — Oil prices broke through the $70 per-barrel barrier Friday and more forecasters are broadening expectations for an upward swing in crude. Benchmark crude for July delivery lost 37 cents to settle at $68.44 on the New York Mercantile Exchange, finishing the week with a gain of nearly $2 a barrel. Earlier in the day oil jumped as high as $70.32 per barrel, the highest since October.”
And the liberal main stream media does not WHINE about it and blame the Obama administration like the pansies did when Bush was in office!
"Charles", The Original
June 7th, 2009
1:52 pm
As usual, Jackie doesn’t understand what she is saying. The U.S. dollar is phony money. It’s fiat currency i.e. money backed only by the Federal Reserve and the United States government. There is no gold, silver, or copper stored at Fort Knox backing the U.S. dollar. So it is indeed phony money and a person using it should be arrested.
But here is the thing. If any government or person in the world should act upon that reality, the U.S. government will instantly declare that government/person a terrorist state or terrorist and each will undoubtedly face the fate of Iraq and Saddam Hussein. One of Saddam’s mistakes was recognizing the U.S. dollar as phony money and acting in accordance.
So the question becomes are you with me and my funny money or are you with the terrorist and their genuine currency?
Hot under collar
June 7th, 2009
4:33 pm
Jim, You’re one of the most milk-toast republican writers I’ve ever read. You are the Alan Combs of the AJC. Cynthia Tucker is a far left nut job who should have been let go from the paper years ago. Recently she called Republicans “traitors” in a newspaper column. Her uber liberal behavior which promulgates both class and racial hatred sickens me. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Shammed
June 7th, 2009
4:37 pm
Charles, what less would you expect from emotion-driven liberals?
Hot, I never read her drivel, so I was unaware that Ms. Tucker called Republicans “traitors.” It doesn’t surprise me in the least however. Those modern liberals are nothing but modern day Nazis who want to get rid of dissenting thought and opinion. Surely you didn’t expect liberalism to be open minded and fair and all, did you?
Shammed
June 7th, 2009
4:47 pm
Now that we have that out of the way, let’s show some “open minded liberals” who deny that there is a liberal MSM bias. First up is a lib named Eleanor Clift (yeah, that’s the same Newsweak toilet flush that set a record for a single person in one year being on the front page the most – Obama).
‘Newsweek’s Eleanor Clift seemed flabbergasted on this weekend’s McLaughlin Group as fellow panelists Pat Buchanan, Monica Crowley and Mort Zuckerman all criticized President Obama’s speech to Muslims in Cairo. Perhaps reflecting the mindset of her Newsweek colleagues, Clift exclaimed: “Until I came on this set, I heard nothing but rave reviews for this speech. I feel like I’m in a total parallel reality.”’
Actually I feel like I’m in a parallel universe because you liberals stopped whining about not getting Saddam, deficit spending, corruption, lies, cronyism, Iraq spending, blah blah. Anyway, for the real kicker let’s see what the co-founder of DNCNN, Reese Schonfeld, thinks of Fox News continuing to give them and the rest of the liberal media the beat down. This is priceless. Really. Pay special attention to the last sentence:
“Nine years ago, when FoxNews sprinted past CNN to become America’s number one news network, I attributed its ratings gains to the election of George Bush and the triumph of Fox-watching conservatives. I figured conservatives would be savoring their victory while liberals were averting their eyes in disgust. For the next eight years, I measured political sentiment in the United States by comparing the size of the FoxNews audience with the combined size of the CNN/MSNBC audience. In this space, I even predicted, with reasonable accuracy, the percent by which Barack Obama won the election based on the split in the news audience. Now, seven months after Barack Obama’s victory, CNN’s ratings have gone down the drain. From May of last year to May of this year, CNN lost 22% of its total primetime audience. MSNBC was down 2%, while FoxNews was up 24%. In the key advertising demographic (25-54), Fox was up 31%, CNN was down 37% and MSNBC was down 26%. In hard numbers, Fox had 109,000 more viewers than last year while CNN lost 113,000. CNN averaged fewer than 200,000 25-54 viewers in primetime. Even MSNBC averaged more viewers than that. Total day was nearly as bad, with Fox up 24% and CNN down 7%. MSNBC was down 2% in total viewing. Fox is beating CNN almost two-to-one in most categories. There’s no need to throw any more numbers at you–Fox is gaining, CNN is wilting. Why is this happening when the country still seems about 58-42 in favor of Obama? My best guess is the passion of those who detest Democrats, liberals, and in particular, Barack Obama.
So, HATE is what makes Fox News successful eh? SURELY it’s not the blatant and unapologetic “I’ve got a tingling feeling going up my leg” bias towards Democrats now, is it? Idiots.
"Charles", The Original
June 7th, 2009
5:10 pm
I hope everyone stays away from liberalism. Look what it did to the masses of black people. In 1973, black people literally cried like babies when it was announced that the United States Supreme Court had legalized abortion. It was surreal. And we blamed white people for that madness. But somewhere along the way black people became liberals too. Today, many black people support the right of a woman to abort a baby. Negroes are absolutely sick!
The so-called educated integrationist Negroes are to blame for turning black people against God. And the masses of Negroes are paying a tremendous spiritual penalty for their Choice.
Mister Earl
June 7th, 2009
5:39 pm
Fox News
Shammed – more people eat at McDonald’s. Does that mean it is the best restaurant? Of couurse not. It only means that food has been dumbed down to meet the basic subsistence needs of the undereducated.
Fox News will never be recognized for excellence in journalism.
Rate that.
Mister Earl
June 7th, 2009
5:41 pm
Fox News Circle Jerks
Hannity Interviews Limbaugh (say what?)
Limbaugh: “I do not hide from it. I do want and I still want Obama to fail.”
Hannity: “But it’s interesting here. . . . A lot of things you are saying — [Obama] is apologizing for America’s arrogance. He has taken over car companies. They want to dictate CEO pay. All of these things have been unfolding. Socialism is the Obama vision for America.”
Limbaugh: “And fascism. We must not be afraid to use that word either. It is a combination of the two.”
(”Limbaugh and Hannity know the standard definition of fascism: “a regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.”) – Washington Post
Rabbithead
June 7th, 2009
5:54 pm
A beautiful piece on friendship. Thanks, Jim.
Too bad others totally missed the point. Maybe if they had to sign their name to their words like you do, they’d hold back on the vitriol and be more thoughtful in their comments. Or not.
Anonymous is sure easy and in many cases, brainless.
Shammed
June 7th, 2009
6:33 pm
“Shammed – more people eat at McDonald’s. Does that mean it is the best restaurant? Of couurse not. It only means that food has been dumbed down to meet the basic subsistence needs of the undereducated. Fox News will never be recognized for excellence in journalism.”
Oh of course, you whiney liberal Democrats dismiss Fox News as irrelevant. I expected nothing less. People WATCH what they want to watch. Now for your brilliant observation referencing McDonald’s, not everyone goes to McDonald’s every day. BUT, people DO watch Fox News every day. Your analogy=FAIL.
“Fox News will never be recognized for excellence in journalism. Rate that.”
Excellence in journalism by WHO? The liberal Main Stream media? Laughable! And I’ll let the ratings speak for themselves. Suck on it.
Shammed
June 7th, 2009
6:39 pm
HotAir has a great snippet on the liberal MSM bias at Newsweak with some clown on Chris “Tingling Leg” Matthews’ Soft Ball:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/06/more-bowing-from-the-media/
Again, you just cannot make up this kind of liberal absurdity. McDonald’s Big Mac sales notwithstanding of course.
Shammed
June 7th, 2009
6:52 pm
For the mindless Obamabots, THIS is fascism defined (clue: it’s not a REGIME as some tin foil hat wearing liberal referenced above):
“Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government”
Shut down Rush and Fox News. Check.
“Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state.”
Republicans are now irrelevant and need to come to the way of thinking like Democrats. Check.
“Fascists see the struggle of nation and race as fundamental in society.”
Class warfare and race classifications. Check.
“Fascism seeks to solve existing economic, political, and social problems by achieving a millenarian national rebirth, exalting the nation or race above all else.”
Major transition of society and “change.” Check.
“Fascist states have pursued policies of indoctrination of society to their fascist movements such as through propaganda deliberately spread through education and media through regulation of the production of education and media material.”
Shoving Al Gore propaganda down our children’s throats in government run schools. Check.
“The central economic idea of all forms of fascism is corporatism. Corporatism is government control of the economy by cartelizing it, that is, by selecting favoured firms in an industry. These favoured firms fix prices and create barriers to entry and obstacles for competitors, and by controlling which firms have corporate rights. The government thereby maintains a level of power over the economy.”
Bank and auto manufacturer takeovers. Check.
Nah, I see no relevance to fascism whatsoever in today’s government run by liberals.
Jackie
June 7th, 2009
7:17 pm
@Shammed
You statement:
“June 6th, 2009 5:36 pm
The fact that no economic expert knows where the “bottom” is, the fact that no housing expert knows where the “bottom” is, and the fact that this nation’s economy started tanking after the Pelosicrats took over Congress more than two years ago refutes any candyassed claim Jackie made about how great things are. Things WILL get worse under these neo Marxists. You can bank on it.”
You have made claims that you have information that refutes most of the economic experts. Care to inform us how you came about this insight into such profound economic theory?
Secondly, instead of hiding your rebuttal of my posting within your posting, care to direct the statement to me directly so this “candyass” can debate the obfuscation you presented?
What do you think about that?
Jackie
June 7th, 2009
7:20 pm
@Charles
I would hope that you stop trying to hide your racist bile behind religion.
Jackie
June 7th, 2009
7:25 pm
@Charles
I am directing the “phony money” statement at you directly as an anaology. Your supposed attitude and claim that you are helping the kids and somehow fully protected by your being a principled person.
Your posting indicate otherwise:
“I’m a servant of God. And a servant of God is obligated to tell the truth. Yes, the truth is perceived to be divine and color blind or it can be viewed as vile and racist depending on your level of maturity. So now you know what people mean when they say, “you can’t handle the truth.”
Jackie, if Jim Wooten or Cynthia Tucker had maintained their cherished principles, the AJC would have fired them without warning. Both would have replaced with two columnists willing to sell their souls for money etc… And it’s plenty of those available. Amen?”
Shammed
June 7th, 2009
7:32 pm
“You have made claims that you have information that refutes most of the economic experts. Care to inform us how you came about this insight into such profound economic theory?”
Jackie, I read “news” beyond the New York Times. I’d HIGHLY suggest you do the same to keep from looking the fool, as usual:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/30768521
Plenty more economic experts out there don’t really know either. Now you tell me where you liberals get all your economic expertise from?
“Secondly, instead of hiding your rebuttal of my posting within your posting, care to direct the statement to me directly so this “candyass” can debate the obfuscation you presented?”
Because like a typical liberal you like to fluff stuff up where there is NOTHING to fluff up.
“What do you think about that?”
About the same as I do toward most of you mindless liberals: nothing.
Shammed
June 7th, 2009
7:38 pm
And by the way, Jackie, I didn’t call YOU a candyass. I called your arguments candyassed. And they are. Here’s what I said, AGAIN, hysterical liberal:
“candyassed claim”
And by the way, any idiot worth his or her salt can see that printing money and out of control spending is a doomed economic philosophy. Just ask China how confident they are in buying our debt. But you go right on ahead and play that little liberal flute while the ship sinks.
Shammed
June 7th, 2009
7:47 pm
Oh, and here’s another for you to read Jackie – and keep in mind it’s two months old – and dead on:
http://virtus.investorroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=105
Even MSN.com say there is more downfall to be had:
The next crisis has already begun
We’ve survived a financial meltdown, and we’re working through a recession. But another phase — when all the money printing melts down the dollar — is just getting started.
[Related content: currencies, financial crisis, Federal Reserve, funds, Bill Fleckenstein]
By Bill Fleckenstein
MSN Money
This week I’d like to update readers on the funding crisis. That’s the third in the three-baseball-game analogy that I dreamed up last fall (read “Economy sinks as we save bankers”) as a way to think through the enormous problems we faced.
The first and second games (crises) — the credit meltdown and the economic downturn — have been pretty easy for folks to understand, as they were front and center in the news.
The view from the dugout
Essentially, the financial crisis now lies behind us (with the economic crisis in full bloom, the recent economic “bounce” notwithstanding). That’s due to all the moves put together by former Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and other government officials. Those actions stopped the vaporization of the financial system, essentially giving everyone a do-over.
But therein lay the seeds for the funding crisis — which, as I noted in my daily column at FleckensteinCapital.com on May 21, appears to have started.
This is a much more subtle but pernicious crisis in some ways, as it’s not so apparent but is disastrous in the long term.
My reason for saying so? Because if the dollar is called into question (as now appears to have begun) and if the Federal Reserve’s monetization cannot lower interest rates (and in fact causes them to rise, due to the consequences of printing so much money), then the Fed is trapped. The more it tries to solve the problem by printing more money, the worse it all becomes.
serene
June 7th, 2009
7:52 pm
Through the years I read Ms. Tucker ( I no longer read her opinions either in print or on line) from time to time I would hear the voice of the woman that Jim so eloquently describes as she seemed to wrestle with her own ideas and their fit with reality. It was as though Ms. Tucker were about to step away from the liberal lock step of her past. Then, as suddenly as it same, the moment would pass and Ms. Tucker would be harnessing her considerable rhetorical skills to the liberal cause of the moment. Long ago she stopped having real influence in this city as she alienated everyone who didn’t already agree with her with her often dishonest polemics.
I am glad to know that Jim Wooten found her a decent person and a good boss. Sadly, the rest of us found her, only through her writings, as a divisive, mean spirited ideologue.
Jackie
June 7th, 2009
7:55 pm
@Shammed
To support my “candyass argument”, let me present my facts.
The entire world is in RECESSION; the USA is still the largest consumer market in the world, consuming roughly %25 of all goods and services produced; the greenback is still the currency of preference for the world economy; the greenback is still used to denominate goods and services on the world trade market.
China, Japan, the UK, etc., still loan us money because of our unique position as the world’s economic engine. If we sink, they all sink.
Please note how many economists are predicting the economy has bottomed or will bottom no later than the 3rd quarter of this year. Notice how many as optimistic the recovery will be enough to create enough jobs to lubricate the economy and cause the multiplier effect to more than average, almost robust.
Mary Helen Ellet
June 7th, 2009
7:56 pm
Thanks, Jim. Your words about Cynthia Tucker are kind & caring & attest to the true gentle man I experienced when I met at our book sale.
Mary Helen Ellet
Jackie
June 7th, 2009
7:58 pm
@Shammed
As for the invective that you seem to have, I am not a “fool” in any sense of the word. I read widely and extensively and have a robust understanding the material read and presented.
Now, if you want to take the conversation to a level that justify your “fool” comment, LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!!
Shammed
June 7th, 2009
8:02 pm
Jackie, I’m not going to do what your ilk did (including in the main stream media) during the Bush years and poor mouth this administration’s policies by down talking the economy. I would LOVE for this economy to get back on track as it was during the Bush years with Republicans running Congress. EVERYONE would benefit from it. But alas, the facts are what they are. We cannot continue to keep this runaway spending train on the rails. Everyone knows it. Your spin on the “world” recession is not going to hide that fact.
Jackie
June 7th, 2009
8:05 pm
@Shammed
Here is a link that does not contain the big words that are confusing to you:
http://www.voanews.com/specialenglish/archive/2006-02/2006-02-17-voa1.cfm?CFID=219635928&CFTOKEN=33316919&jsessionid=84309b7be1ff8c62410e6c5780364c412f5f
YOU ARE talking down the economy as you so-called conservatives continue to hurl those invectives relative to the President.
As I see it, you are one of those that like to “…throw the rock, then hide your hand.”
Shammed
June 7th, 2009
8:07 pm
Oh, and by the way Jackie, since you are in such a Chatty Cathy mood, maybe you can jump in on one of my earlier posts that no other liberal dared touch. Step up to the plate for your GAME now, Chatty Jackie:
1) Democrats whined about Republican deficit spending.
2) Democrats whined about Republican illegal wire tapping.
3) Democrats whined about Republicans not capturing Osama.
4) Democrats whined about Republicans sending jobs overseas.
5) Democrats whined about Republicans not pulling out of Iraq.
6) Democrats whined about Republican cronyism.
7) Democrats whined about Republican corruption.
This was when Bush was in office. Now that these circus clown liberals are in office, guess who’s silent now about all the above?