US-UAW, Inc., Government Motors and ‘the greedy’

 

 

I’ve come to hate the word “greedy.”  It’s an epithet used almost exclusively by the Left to demonize somebody in business who is not compliant to the wishes of a politician.

An example is Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, who is taking to the bully pulpit to persuade those to whom Chrysler LLC owes billions, to surrender the bulk of their claims.  “On behalf of Michigan,” she said Wednesday, “on behalf of the thousands of people who will be affected if this company is forced into bankruptcy, I am publicly asking these hedge funds to not be greedy but to do what the banks have done and what everyone else around the table has done [and] take the concessions.”

Four major banks holding 70 percent of Chrysler’s $6.9 billion in secured debt, agreed to settle for $2 billion.  The 46 hedge funds want a better deal.  Talks appear to have collapsed.  Unless agreement is reached by 11:59 p.m. tonight, a government-imposed deadline, Chrysler is headed to bankruptcy.  Lenders may or may not get a better deal in bankruptcy.

 

UPDATE:  Chrysler has filed for bankruptcy and officials hope to be out within 60 days.

After bankruptcy, Chrysler will end up as a union-owned company, with a 55 percent stake held by the United Auto Workers.  If General Motors survives as structured by its government overseers, GM would become, as some have dubbed it,  Government Motors, with the government holding a 50-percent stake.

The last few days of negotiations have shown us the future of government control of major sectors of the economy.  In Chrysler’s case, banks beholden to government are coerced to take write-downs to “save” an automobile company that the government will rescue and turn over to one of the Democratic Party’s most loyal constituencies, Big Labor.  Those debt-holders who don’t agree to a bad deal are vilified as “greedy” and, rest assured, bad things will happen to them in terms of investment losses.

I don’t want government to succeed in nationalizing American industry.  I will not buy a car from the government and I won’t invest in banks that its agents control.

115 comments Add your comment

Copyleft

April 30th, 2009
8:43 am

Awww, poor greed! People are picking on it all of sudden, like it’s some kind of sin!

The problem you’re encountering, Mr. Wooten, is that America has seen the consequences of unchecked and unbridled corporate greed. And we’re not willing to put up with it any more.

This, I believe, is a key distinction between so-called “fiscal conservatives” and real Americans. They see greed as a virtue, and the rest of us don’t.

Jeff

April 30th, 2009
8:49 am

Once in control of the auto industry, the government will force the Big 3 to build cars based on their “green” agenda – cars most americans will only grudgingly purchase as a last resort. This will be a huge boon for the foreign manufacturers and the secondary used car market, while simultaneously strangling the US makers. I’m with Jim, no american cars for me once the government takes over. Additionally, in Chrysler’s case, the new majority stakeholders (the UAW) are the very ones killing them.

F22 Man

April 30th, 2009
9:00 am

If the old draft dodger is going to save my job he needs to get off the golf course and get his facts correct’

Chambliss said the choices were based more on money than on strategy.

“It’s clear the recommendations that he’s made were without conducting virtually any analysis of risk, what the strategic goals of the military are or should be and how, if implemented, his recommendations will affect our ability to achieve these goals,” he said.

But that argument will face debate.

Sestak, a former Navy admiral, said the Pentagon has war-gamed scenarios involving surface-to-air missiles over and over.

“You don’t get close to needing 180 F-22s,” he said.

Rick the Electrician

April 30th, 2009
9:01 am

As employee of GM for 23 years I have never met a UAW represented worker that designed a car or made any business decisions like trying to buy Fiat for 2 billion and a year later pay Fiat 4 billion to get out of the deal. Our contracts are just as valid as those for AIG execs. I am ready to take a haircut to keep this company out of court but don’t blame me or the UAW for its demise

Californication

April 30th, 2009
9:07 am

The problem with the car companies was not corporate greed it was UAW greed. The UAW thinks that they deserve over $70 an hour for their labor jobs. That figure includes benefits. Toyota and Honda average about $40 an hour. Who are the greedy ones here, unions?

Churchill's MOM

April 30th, 2009
9:08 am

We all need to write a BIG check and send it to our next President for her legal bills. That’s how the greedy liberals are working against our nrxt President.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin announced the creation of a legal defense fund Friday to help pay down legal debts stemming from a series of ethics complaints.

The Alaska Fund Trust will be run by longtime Palin friend and Wasilla native Kristan Cole. The Republican governor owes more than $500,000 in legal bills, but donations to the fund will be capped at $150, according to a release.

“Over the past months it became increasingly clear that supporters of Gov. Palin needed to help defend against the onslaught of frivolous attacks against her. These baseless accusations are designed to inhibit her ability to focus on the issues Alaskans truly care about and force massive personal debt on her and her family,” Cole said.

In addition to the unusually low, self-imposed donation cap, the fund will also voluntarily disclose contributor names and dollar amounts.

“We have created one of the most restrictive and transparent legal funds in history,” Cole said.

Palin has been hit with numerous ethics complaints from citizens of her state. The latest came Wednesday, when an Anchorage woman complained that Palin violated state ethics rules by using funds from her political action committee to attend a right to life rally in Indiana.

Earlier this month the conservative group Free American Citizens set up an unaffiliated fund that biiled itself as the governor’s official legal defense fund. Palin aides had to ask the group to cease promoting the unaffiliated fund.

***********Handel 2010*****PALIN MCCAIN 2012***************

Chris Broe

April 30th, 2009
9:11 am

Greed is good. I’ll say it again. Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed works. Greed motivates. Greed is good.

The British are leaving Iraq for good. Apparently the British people have arrived on the shores of Iraq in thousands and thousands of small craft to evacuate the stranded army under the nose of Saddam Hussein’s Panzer Tanks. If they make it out of there, it will be a miracle.

Remind me to work on some epithets to use on conservatism’s epitaph. How about, “Here lies a no good, thievin’, lyin’ yellah, lost cause of total confederate trash.” (then a figure of a small boy running after someone yelling, “Shame! Shame! Dont come back. Shame!”)

Marc

April 30th, 2009
9:12 am

In bankruptcy, you wipe out equity (if there is any) and negotiate debt. That’s what’s going on. The company owes the most money to the employees. Why shouldn’t they get the bulk of the company? Isn’t that how it’s supposed to work? Do you even understand bankruptcy?

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/autobeat/archives/2009/04/uaw_goes_from_r.html

The government isn’t coercing banks to do anything. They received loans, most of which will get paid back. The government just forced them to stop squaundering money which is something the private sector board didn’t do. Businessmen have to be accountable for something after running their businesses into the ground. They should be happy they have a job at all.

…and don’t give me the they were forced to take it routine. Two banks (Bear and Merrill) no longer exist and all banks were desperate for capital. Goldman is having to sell equity to pay the money back which pretty much means they all needed capital.

Also, what’s your plan? You just complained but didn’t give any ideas but don’t nationalize.

JohnF

April 30th, 2009
9:13 am

Jim Wooten is confusing greed with ambition.

Redneck Convert

April 30th, 2009
9:15 am

Well, I’m all for these people that don’t want to settle their debt with Chrysler. Before, they might could get maybe 40% of what they’re owed. Now, after Chrysler goes bankrupt tonight, they’ll probly get nothing. That’ll show Chrysler not to try to welch on debts.

Same goes for the unions. We hate them so much we’d rather give up 3 million jobs than have a union. Leastwise, we’ll be able to show them we mean business.

Anyhow, I’m sure glad Ford ain’t part of this mess. I don’t know what I’d do if I had to replace my Ford F-450 with something that ain’t a Ford F-450. We’re all laughing at Joe Bill. He’s driving around in a Pontiac and we’re saying he’s going to have to use a soldering iron to make replacement parts for it after GM stops making them.

Anyhow, I figure the Japanese and Germans will just take over the auto industry in this country after GM and Chrysler go under. I told some of my buddies that use to work at GM here in Atlanta to learn Jap talk so they can fit right in when they move to Japan. My buddy Jim Earl says he’s worryed about how we’ll make tanks and such if a big war breaks out. I told him not to worry, countries overseas would be able to make them for us after the U.S. car industry goes under.

We don’t make much stuff now, so we might as well give up making stuff all together. You can’t find a American made TV or radio in WalMart. We can just learn how to service the stuff other countries make. We can go from the big offices and fancy suits to a pair of coveralls and a panel truck that’s made in Japan. It won’t be long till all the banks show Japanese or German signs.

Have a good day everybody.

Churchill's MOM

April 30th, 2009
9:16 am

How do you people live on $70 per hour, my husband sees 12 people an hour at $75.00 per visit and we barely get by?

Diogenes

April 30th, 2009
9:22 am

Good morning, Jim,

I disagree with your assertion that greed is “an epithet used almost exclusively by the Left to demonize somebody in business who is not compliant to the wishes of a politician.” I more commonly hear it extolled by those in business whose actions euphemistically might be called “predatory.” Their elevation of greed to the status of a virtue is an effort to justify their lack of conscience or morals. It woould seem that you are falling prey to the same delusions they are.

Big Bucks GOP

April 30th, 2009
9:24 am

Bank of America’s Kenneth D. Lewis, who helped build the company into
the nation’s largest bank, was stripped of his chairman’s title after a
shareholder vote on Wednesday.

While Mr. Lewis remains chief executive at BofA, many inside and
outside the bank wonder if he can hang on. The Associated Press points
out that Mr. Lewis, who thrived on scoring the next big deal, has found
himself sunk by one.

Big Bucks GOP

April 30th, 2009
9:25 am

New Jersey regulators authorized Wednesday what could be an
80-percent-off sale for one of Atlantic City’s largest casinos,
permitting the Tropicana Casino and Resort to be sold in a bankruptcy
court auction — possibly to the billionaire financier Carl C. Icahn.

Big Bucks GOP

April 30th, 2009
9:26 am

UBS said on Thursday it had eliminated 2,000 jobs in the United States
as part of its latest round of job cuts announced earlier in April.

Elephant Whip

April 30th, 2009
9:28 am

Californication:

What are you, a socialist? Are not capitolist laborers allowed to negotiate their salary and use whatever leverage necessary to make the deal, including allegiances with co-workers who also want a good salary? Are you suggesting that labor, as a service in the market, should be regulated so that laborers cannot employ certain tactics in negotiation? Regulation of the labor market? I thought that free markets were best?

Big Bucks GOP

April 30th, 2009
9:29 am

Clear Channel Communications, the radio station operator that was taken
private in the biggest leveraged buyout ever in the media business, is
finding it increasingly hard to meet the payments on the billions in
debt accumulated in the process of buying out its public investors.

Big Bucks GOP

April 30th, 2009
9:31 am

Fairfield Greenwich Group, which lost $7.2 billion of its clients’
funds to Bernard L. Madoff, fired back at Massachusetts Secretary of
State William F. Galvin on Wednesday, saying his fraud allegations
against Fairfield were “filled with errors and factual distortions.”

Big Bucks GOP

April 30th, 2009
9:34 am

A federal judge on Wednesday froze the assets of Bradley L. Ruderman, a
Beverly Hills hedge fund manager accused by the Securities Exchange
Commission of duping investors out of $38 million.

Hillbilly Deluxe

April 30th, 2009
9:35 am

UAW workers don’t make $70 an hour even with benefits. That figure has retiree costs lumped in. My Daddy is a retired UAW worker. Back when he was working the figure they always gave was $40 an hour. In reality his hourly pay was less than 1/3 of that (actually closer to 1/4).

Jim, you are against this yet you have no problem with TAD’s and other special tax breaks for certain businesses. Seems a bit inconsistent to me.

Big Bucks GOP

April 30th, 2009
9:36 am

A former partner and chief investment officer at Harbinger Capital
Partners is suing the hedge fund in a bid to recover $63 million he
claims he is owed as part of his separation agreement,

Poultry

April 30th, 2009
9:41 am

“I don’t want government to succeed in nationalizing American industry. I will not buy a car from the government and I won’t invest in banks that its agents control.”

I agree, Mr. Wooten. Bravo!

This mess reminds me increasingly of the crisis in Workers Comp. That was a scam that begat many little scams that became mega-scams. The fraud, essentially a backdoor into early retirement, benefitted just about everyone except the employers, and it was threatening to put some of our biggest employers out of business, or else overseas. In the event, the solution turned on a kind of universal clemency under which the guilty parties agreed to give up their various advantages. It was a rare instance of the lion lying down with the lamb, union with management, healthcare with justice (for a change). The result was an immediate and marked reduction in the cost of genuine claims; in most cases, about a 40% cut in costs.

Workers Comp reform shows that Detroit CAN do it, if only the politicians would quit flacking for one interest or another. It can be done. But a union takeover of Chrysler would throw everything off kilter. You’d have to face the reality of something like a five-sided table, with roughly coequal negotiating partners at each side. And there would have to be the will to make it happen. That’s where the President could come in, were he not already a shill for the unions.

Chris Broe

April 30th, 2009
9:46 am

Cnn is reporting that when Bush learned the British were cutting and running from Iraq, he vomited in the bathroom. Laura Bush is writing a memoir exposing what an anorexic weenie boy her husband has become.

I wonder what George Bush would say on Sixty Minutes in answer to, “What should Obama do with our troops in Iraq?” He’d smirk. Then sit up straight and say, “Heh, continue the mission. heh.”

What is the mission, Mr. Bush? “Heh, the mission is to create a democratic, self sustaining Iraq that can defend itself, and be an ally on the war on terror. Heh.”

An ally on the war on terror? What would you have Iraq do to aid our effort against terror, in specific terms? The Bathist renegades? the Shia militia? The Sunni insurgents? The kurds? Who are the terrorists over there? Is that even relevant? Has it ever been a relevant point? The war on terror in Iraq? What about 911? Why did you forget about 911?

I didn’t forget 911! I ate 911! I slept 911. I went out there with a bullhorn! I breathed 911 in deep! I picked up some of the trade center. I still have that, and keep it with me at all times.

May we see that piece of the trade center? “Sure, here.” . (Sir, this is a cracker jacks ring). “Sure it is, it was in the debris. I saw it first. I dubbs’d. It reminds me of the horror of that day, and it keeps me focused on Obama Sin Laden. Support the troops. No surrender monkeys allowed. Sometimes I wear this ring when I think of ways to get Obama. (Dont you mean Osama?) ” What did I say? That’s what’s wrong with you reporters. You get everything wrong and mixed up. Like spaghetti. Pisses me off. heh. I’m not president anymore so I can say what I wants. I meant Obama. I think of ways to get him thrown out of office. I can do it. Watch me.”

Bush, I’m only going to ask you once: Why didn’t you attack the 911 terrorists when our CIA had them cornered in Afghanistan less than year after 911? Why?

“I ordered the attack.”

Yes, you did. We know that. But no attack was made. Why?

“I ordered it, and Cheney countermanded the order. Rummy stood still like a stonewall. Cheney stood behind him like a man-sized safe. I was hiding in that safe listening to them plot some crazy coup. They didn’t know that I knew that they knew that I knew…..”

Isn’t that treason? Shouldn’t you have hanged them both? Right there on the spot? You keep mentioning the war on terror, yet you lost the battle of the trade towers. You let the enemy slip away. Then you invented a profitable war (for the Saudi Contractors); an Iraq war that has cost us our economic and political fortunes. Why didn’t you simply fire them both and find a general who would attack? . Attack! That’s all America asked of you, mr. bush, to attack al queda in the summer of 2002. You know, for 911 and everything?

“Heh. I gave the order. So I’m clean. That’s all I know. heh. you wanna give me back my ring. I dubbs’d it first.”

Goodbye Mr. Bush.

R P Krakeel

April 30th, 2009
9:46 am

Once again I hear the same rhetoric of the Unions being the blame for the downfall of the American auto industry, Yes some very lucrative contracts have been negotiated over the years, Yes the Unions must make concessions in these bad times, Yes mistakes have been made by both management and the Unions, NO,NO,NO, we do not need to lose the manufacturing base of this country, if you truly love the American way of life you must put aside your biasis and trust the real facts, not the distorted ones that seem to find their way onto the news pages. Love America??? then invest in AMERICA

Poultry

April 30th, 2009
9:48 am

@Diogenes,

You’re right, but then, to quote Joyce, “Snow is general, all over Ireland”–if you catch my drift.

Big Bucks GOP

April 30th, 2009
9:49 am

A federal magistrate has ruled that California-based financier Danny
Pang can be released on $1 million bail following his arrest on a
complaint alleging he evaded currency reporting laws.

Big Bucks GOP

April 30th, 2009
9:51 am

Bernard L. Madoff observed his 71st birthday behind bars in Lower
Manhattan on Wednesday, with no party and little to celebrate as he
awaits what is likely to be a lifetime sentence after pleading guilty
to running an enormous Ponzi scheme.

Peter

April 30th, 2009
10:01 am

Well Jim…..Time to put on the Boots after reading your crap!

“I’ve come to hate the word “greedy.” It’s an epithet used almost exclusively by the Left to demonize somebody in business who is not compliant to the wishes of a politician.”

What other way would anyone describe the “Cost Plus Contracts” written by Dick Cheney’s office ?

Republican’s speak with Forked Tongues !

Brown-Eyed Girl!

April 30th, 2009
10:04 am

LOL! Chris Broe, you have provided my comic relief for the day. Muchas Gracias!

neo-Carlinist

April 30th, 2009
10:08 am

one man’s greed is another’s ambition. one man’s bailout is another’s welfare. one man’s torture is another’s “enhanced interogation”. this is the oldest game in the book. if one’s behavior is morally questionable, re-name it. the whole thing stinks of reverse political correctness. I believe Orwell called it “double-speak”. shame on Wooten for attemtping to deflect attention from the root cause and wandering off on a silly semantic name-calling adventure (as if “leftist” have to clear name-calling with conservatives before moving forward). talk about your Whiskey Tango Foxtroot? Let’s see what the dictionary says (as opposed to politicians/gadflies) – GREED – rapacious desire for more than one needs or deserves, as of food, wealth or power…” oops, now we must spend another couple of days debating the definition of “needs” or “deserves”?

Poultry

April 30th, 2009
10:12 am

You Democrats say that you want cooperation, but like your guy Obama you can’t keep yourselves from harping on Bush. This country is still split pretty evenly, and at this point ain’t nobody Red buying your sincerity. You want war? You’ve got it. Wait and see.

Rick the Electrician

April 30th, 2009
10:14 am

To Californacation
Get your facts straight I am currently paid $32.75 an hour with benefits around $44. The only way you get to $70 or as Glen Beck claims over $100 is to add the cost of those that are retired to those who are working. Is that how you calculate your wage or salary. Not to mention that management has to sign those contracts you have a problem with. If they were too costly why didn’t they stand up to the union like Ronald Reagan or Caterpillar in the 1980’s. Nothing is wrong with GM that designing cars and trucks that people wanted to buy for the past 30 years would not have cured. We have agreed to $14.00 an hour with no healthcare and no pension for new hires what else do you expect from us. In your world it seems that there should be wall street banks and peons. It seems to me that if we are to rebuild our economy we need more people make $32 not less

ncgreybr

April 30th, 2009
10:17 am

Let’s make sure I got this right…the unions get 55% and the government gets 50%. Anyone got an adding machine handy? Duhhhhhh!

Big Bucks Dem

April 30th, 2009
10:25 am

JOHNSTOWN, Pa. — At the behest of Rep. John P. Murtha (D), chairman of the House defense appropriations subcommittee, the Pentagon has spent about $30 million equipping the little-used airport named for him so it can handle behemoth military aircraft and store combat equipment for rapid deployment to foreign battlefields.

Most of the improvements, funded through appropriations approved by Murtha’s panel, have not been used for their intended purpose. The projects delighted National Guard and reserve units based in Murtha’s Pennsylvania district that have seen budget cuts, but critics charge that the expenditures have been a waste of taxpayer dollars.

Chris Broe

April 30th, 2009
10:29 am

American Dream vs Chinese Insomnia

Semantics. Tim Wooten calls it greed. I call it the American dream. The idea that GM had to pay for retired workers to eat and play golf is what killed GM. (that and the Cadillac was never more than a Chevy with more sound proofing and leather seats)

China is not saddled with the American Dream. We will drive $5K Camry’s thanks to the Chinese Insomnia. I

The problem is that we never defined America nor it’s dream. Instead, we let those words rule out electoral process. It’s not our fault. The burden on those who won World War Two is that a sense of entitlement to enjoy the “spoils of war” distorted their sounder judgments. It seemed right to finance worker’s retirement. We won WW2, so we should have our Shangrila/Xanadu/Utopia/Shooting gallery. We relied on our leaders, like we were supposed to.

Jim Tooten is right about one thing: Only a fool would buy an American made car now. Pay too much, and get stranded on the expressway at 2am in FunkyTown. Sure, you’ll get out of that. Sure.

Now we’ve the devil to pay for Cheney’s big miss. He’s out there. This evil genius who has had eight years to delegate authority. Don’t be fooled. His mission statement is as clear cut as ours should have been: “Attack!”

Cheney’s parting shot about an imminent attack was the biggest FU that any historical person has given to the body of America.

Poultry

April 30th, 2009
10:40 am

@Chris Broe,

“…that and the Cadillac was never more than a Chevy with more sound proofing and leather seats…”

As American luxury cars go, I’ll take a Deusy or a Packard over a Cadillac, but until about 1966 a Cadillac was a lot more than plush Chevy. Everything about it was superior.

I’d hate to see the demise of Pontiac. For some years now they’ve operated almost like an in-house version of an aftermarket vendor, taking GM wares and tricking them out shamelessly. I liked their attitude.

Similarly I hope that Chrysler will relinquish the Jeep line. I like Jeeps a lot, though it’s crazy what the Germans did to them.

williebkind

April 30th, 2009
10:41 am

Chris Broe :
Georgie Bush is gone! Can you move on? However, Mistress Pelosi remains as third to the throne of King Obama. You forget she knew everything Cheney knew. Pelosi is responsible for torture as you define it. What say you or can you speak against the wacko left?

Chris Broe

April 30th, 2009
10:48 am

Treason comes in many forms. There’s the “go join al queda if you hate the GOP”. That’s treason if you’re recruiting for Al Queda, in fact, it’s a very effective line. Rushannity uses it every day.

Then, there’s “if you want war, you’ll get war”, which is what Lincoln told the rebels who wanted state’s rights. Business concerns foiled the constitutionally-implied civil liberties in 1860, and Lincoln had seen enough. “Either STFU about state’s rights or I’ll send an army so vast they will devour the entire south”.

“Hogwash”, yelled Jefferson Davis during his (poorly written) inaugural speech. “the negro is not the white man’s equal. and never will be, and that’s why I stand here today to lead this great new country forward in justice and in God’s light”.

I think that Jefferson Davis’s inaugural speech is the most important document in American History and will remain so.

Read Jefferson Davis’s inaugural speech, America. or read the copy hacked out by any red rooster diehard like Rushannity, Bortz, Wooten, Barr. The rooster crowed three times already. You’ve denied this country enough, Wooten. Time to go full-Judas.

Jklol.

ncgreybr

April 30th, 2009
10:49 am

The Dems will quit talking about Bush as soon as the Repugs stop blaming everything on Clinton….ain’t gonna happen soon.

Peter

April 30th, 2009
10:53 am

Yes Pelosi was responsible for Torture…….. HA HA HA………. HA HA HA……….

Has anyone heard Cheney’s Rants lately ?

HA HA HA…………. HA HA HA………..

ncgreybr

April 30th, 2009
10:55 am

I vaguely remember years ago, the designer at GM was asked what the difference was between one of the Cadillacs and one of the Chevys and his answer was “$5,000.00.”

ncgreybr

April 30th, 2009
10:57 am

What’s going to be interesting is that one day a poll will show that 51% of auto workers are Republican and all of a sudden, Wooten and his ilk will start complaining that auto workers are not being paid ENOUGH!

Rick

April 30th, 2009
10:58 am

Privately-owned companies make profits, and are called “greedy.” Small business owners try and eke out a living, and are called “greedy” for not paying higher wages. Taxpayers fed up with being over-taxed & tired of wasteful government spending who want to keep more of what they earn are called “greedy.”

Yet the government, which produces nothing and spends VAST amounts of money (which could otherwise benefit the economy) is never called greedy as it demands more and more and more of our money.

When private citizens are called greedy and the government is viewed as some wonderful, benevolent being…. something is seriously wrong with this country’s collective value system.

Chris Broe

April 30th, 2009
11:02 am

Most presidents leave a library behind as their legacy. Bush left an evil genius plotting our destruction behind.

Forget Iraq. We’re stuck there. Forget it. Put another star on our flag, cause we gots us a new state, folks. So what. I’m sick of thinking about it. (New Alabama)

But we also have an army all lined up and ready to go against us. We have an enemy set like a steel bear trap. Eight years between attacks. Ding!

Bush is relevant. Bush is so relevant that he’s synonymous with Osama Bin Laden in that he’s the sole reason we have a lingering threat from Al Queda.

The number one issue in the world today is Al Queda. Instead we get Jan Bookman and his pirates, his swine flu, and his octomoms. and we read him! We read Tim Wooten! We read anything to escape the reality of an impending attack.

How many pirates were involved in 911? I’m sure Cheney could create a link. How many swine flu victims died on 911? I’m sure Wooten could create a link.

The toasted logic of the Right is why we’re all in a jam now.

Jklol.

Peter

April 30th, 2009
11:08 am

Republican’s and Greed are synonymous………

Haliburton, Blackwater, KGB….and the First round of “Help” or Bailouts… to the financial markets by Bush.

Greed is a “Republican Family Value” !

Poultry

April 30th, 2009
11:09 am

The difference between a Chevy and a Cadillac circa 1975? Sheet metal.

Circa 1965? Options, amenities, chrome and thicker paint, engine choices, heft and ride, style and statement.

I hope Jeep will become the object of a democratic takeover like the one that took back Harley-Davidson from AMF and saved the cycleworks from a Chinese fate worse than death.

Peter

April 30th, 2009
11:17 am

Hey Jim….$100.00 to wash a single soldiers clothes……. NOT GREEDY ?

Poultry

April 30th, 2009
11:17 am

Moreover, Daimler-Benz was nuts not to have delivered on Chysler’s promise of a 6-cyl. HEMI, a format that could give us the performance we want while delivering the efficiency we need. That engine still could be a good hauler that pushes us a little closer to energy independence. Instead the Germans kept cranking out bigger and bigger 8-bangers at just the wrong time. Maybe Chrysler will put the HEMI block on the auction block, in which case I hope Ford will scoop it up and do the smart thing with it.

Mac

April 30th, 2009
11:20 am

I sure wish the government would hire all the out-of-work newspaper folk.

Ray Pugh

April 30th, 2009
11:26 am

Only caring for oneself–a fairly accurate description of greed. You know what else that is a description of, Wooten? Sociopathy.